Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Donald
Speaker 1: ducks out of another debate while inadvertently confirming he lost
Speaker 1: the last one. The self destruction of the Trump campaign
Speaker 1: and fascist political machine so thorough and unexpected that it
Speaker 1: looks intentional, has escalated. They used to be evil and clever.
Speaker 1: Now they are evil and stupid. They used to get
Speaker 1: the jump on external enemies, Now they are being jumped
Speaker 1: by internal enemies. And Laura Lumer is advising Trump to
Speaker 1: do all the wrong things, while the last people who
Speaker 1: had advised him to do all the wrong things, Lindsey
Speaker 1: Blood in the Streets Graham and Marjorie Barney Rubbell Green
Speaker 1: have identified the real enemy, Laura Lumer and the the
Speaker 1: evil not so much genius as evil head shaped like
Speaker 1: a penis. Stephen Miller has melted down in an on
Speaker 1: camera rant in which he somehow wound up defending Venezuelan
Speaker 1: dictator and supposed leftist Nicolas Maduro. But back to the
Speaker 1: biggest danger to Donald Trump right now, Donald Trump. This
Speaker 1: happened moments after a little noticed tweet resurfaced from one
Speaker 1: of his house elves, Congressman Mike Collins of Georgia. As
Speaker 1: the debate ended Tuesday night, Collins had written, quote, you
Speaker 1: want to know who won, find out who refuses to
Speaker 1: do a second debate. Literally within minutes, Trump refused to
Speaker 1: do a second debate, so burnt out that he reused
Speaker 1: his line from Wednesday. Trump posted at three oh eight
Speaker 1: Eastern yesterday. When a prize fighter loses a fight, the
Speaker 1: first words out of his mouth are, I want to rematch.
Speaker 1: Holes clearly showed that I I won the debate. They didn't.
Speaker 1: But of course, were Trump to admit this, I suspect
Speaker 1: he would die. I mean this literally. If Trump somehow
Speaker 1: acknowledged his utter failure, the violent self destruction of his
Speaker 1: entire ecosystem would be so damaging that he could no
Speaker 1: longer exist. So then blah blah blah confuses political asylum
Speaker 1: with mental asylums. Again, again contradicts himself by noting that
Speaker 1: he insisted on a second debate with Biden, tries to
Speaker 1: take the one glimmer of an impact he made during
Speaker 1: his closing statement about problems not solved during this presidency,
Speaker 1: and then in all caps, so you know he's especially
Speaker 1: crazy today quote there will be no third debate exclamation
Speaker 1: point was that Mike Collins quote. Again, you want to
Speaker 1: know who one find out who refuses to do a
Speaker 1: second debate. That's Congressman Mike Collins, who, thirty six minutes
Speaker 1: after Trump was showed in Butler, Pennsylvania by another maga
Speaker 1: Republican gun nut on July thirteenth, had posted quote, Joe
Speaker 1: Biden sent the orders. Mike Collins says Trump lost the debate,
Speaker 1: and Trump confirmed that Trump lost the debate. Undaunted, Donald
Speaker 1: Duck continued his happy warrior campaign in Tucson with more
Speaker 1: clear and convincing policy speeches.
Speaker 2: Now, Arizonas are experiencing an affordability crisis, and this is
Speaker 2: a crisis of no.
Speaker 1: Say Rain and bushwagon horn for Rain Kruger, Kruger, Hey
Speaker 1: gonna row away?
Speaker 3: Cutter?
Speaker 2: Now, who can argue with that?
Speaker 1: No, the sand hasn't about run out of his hour glass. Happily,
Speaker 1: there is always the voice of reason here. Marjorie Taylor Green,
Speaker 1: who attacked nine to eleven truth nut job Laura Lumer's
Speaker 1: racist attacks on Kamala Harris. Green is one of a
Speaker 1: bunch of Republicans who are really worried that as Trump's
Speaker 1: six week long losing streak continues, he is listening to
Speaker 1: Lumer because Lumer is telling him everything is great and
Speaker 1: he needs to lean into her racism and her conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: From my perspective, the real fear is Lumer is Trump's
Speaker 1: conduit to the psycho and QAnon and militia crowd, which,
Speaker 1: as his path through actual electoral victory eventually disappears, he
Speaker 1: will turn to to try to overthrow the election, which
Speaker 1: he will do. Do not dismiss that thought for a moment,
Speaker 1: But for now we can also enjoy Green v. Lumer,
Speaker 1: in which Lumer has replied by attacking Green's fealty to
Speaker 1: Trump and her meandering social life, or, as Lumer put it,
Speaker 1: tell me again, how you and the RV's in your
Speaker 1: pants are representedives of the GOP Oh man, Do they
Speaker 1: still have those Jamocha shakes at Arby's. We used to
Speaker 1: have an Arby's between my TV station and my radio
Speaker 1: station in LA. I love those shakes. Sorry, back to onreality.
Speaker 1: Green was immediately defended by Lindsey Graham. Yes, Loomer's comments
Speaker 1: about Harris are abhorrent, he said, but quote it's deeper
Speaker 1: than that. I mean, you know some of the things
Speaker 1: she said about Republicans and others is disturbing. Trump would
Speaker 1: serve himself well to make sure this doesn't become a
Speaker 1: bigger story. And that is never actually contradict Trump code.
Speaker 1: For get a new younger woman to have a crush
Speaker 1: on because that's ultimately what this is. Now it's Lumer.
Speaker 1: He has a crush on her. He wants her to
Speaker 1: be seen with him for a while. That was Alina Habba.
Speaker 1: Before that it was the other spokes lawyer, Christina bob
Speaker 1: And before that it was Hope Picks, and before that
Speaker 1: it was that other woman who didn't make any sense
Speaker 1: but used to hang around Trump a lot. What was
Speaker 1: her name again? Oh, all right, Milania? Whatever happened to Melania?
Speaker 1: The post of eate poles are coming in now and
Speaker 1: they are strong but not spectacular. But there actually is
Speaker 1: an excellent observation on that from Nate Silver. Seriously. The
Speaker 1: number is First Morning Consult, which has consistently shown Harris
Speaker 1: up by four or three, now has her up nationally
Speaker 1: by five. In polling it claims was done entirely the
Speaker 1: day after the debate. IPSOS did a poll for Reuters,
Speaker 1: some of which wasn't taken until yesterday and it is
Speaker 1: also Harris up by five. Just as interestingly, IPSOS asked
Speaker 1: Republicans who won the debate, only fifty three percent of
Speaker 1: them could swallow hard enough to say Trump did, though
Speaker 1: thirty one percent hid behind. No one won. There are
Speaker 1: no winners here. We are all in this together. YouGov
Speaker 1: showed no change in its poll Harris plus four, but
Speaker 1: it found out that only thirty five percent of viewers
Speaker 1: total thought the moderators had been unfair to Trump. That
Speaker 1: means a lot of Republicans didn't if you were expecting
Speaker 1: Harris's performance to give her a double digit lead by now.
Speaker 1: That is where I'm actually saying this. Nate Silver's insight
Speaker 1: is not merely reassuring, but instructive. When a candidate wins
Speaker 1: a debate, he writes, some of the benefit comes not immediately,
Speaker 1: but when they get strong news coverage for several days afterward,
Speaker 1: or when voters who didn't watch the debate in real
Speaker 1: time see clips or memes or discussions of the debate.
Speaker 1: The debate got sixty five million viewers, a strong number,
Speaker 1: but our model is projecting November turnout to be somewhere
Speaker 1: between one hundred and fifty million and one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty five million voters, and most of those voters will
Speaker 1: probably see or hear something about the debate eventually. That
Speaker 1: means Harris's gains, if she has them, aren't likely to
Speaker 1: be fully realized for a few days. That's such a
Speaker 1: good observation that even Nate couldn't resist saying. So he
Speaker 1: rescued that from behind his own paywall. He posted it,
Speaker 1: and he added, this is a particularly important point, imo,
Speaker 1: which is the Polster equivalent of Bill Murray years ago
Speaker 1: on SNL doing a few filmed weekend update report from
Speaker 1: a story, signing it off while on camera, then cutting
Speaker 1: to himself in the studio at the anchor desk and saying,
Speaker 1: thanks Bill, great report. Of course it is a particularly
Speaker 1: important point, damn it. While we are technically inside the
Speaker 1: legal segment, and you can tell we are, I played
Speaker 1: the legal theme, okay, Liz Cheney I was fine with
Speaker 1: she didn't jump on some sort of anti Trump bandwagon.
Speaker 1: She co captained the January sixth committee. I don't care
Speaker 1: if she hates me. I respect her. Her father endorsing
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris that's a little tougher, but Bush wouldn't, so
Speaker 1: I guess I have to respect that too. But now
Speaker 1: jumping on the camelot bandwagon, Alberto Gonzalez, Alberto Gonzalez, Trump's
Speaker 1: dumbest attorney general, the waterboarding and invasion of privacy one.
Speaker 1: He not only endorsed her, he wrote a piece endorsing
Speaker 1: her for Politico. I will give him this. That he
Speaker 1: could write an entire article was a pleasant surprise to me.
Speaker 1: Now this is legal stuff of value. How best to
Speaker 1: prevent another January sixth? Will prepare for the next January sixth, No,
Speaker 1: literally the next January sixth, the one in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Homeland Security has designated January sixth, twenty twenty five, the
Speaker 1: certification of the electoral College vote by Congress, a National
Speaker 1: Special Security Event, a designation described as a plan to
Speaker 1: give it the same degree of protection as the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and the UN General Assembly. So next January sixth,
Speaker 1: the District of Columbia will be as full of backchecks
Speaker 1: and visible police presence as any of the Super Bowls
Speaker 1: since the first Bush started the first Golf War, and
Speaker 1: that will be combined with the maddening frozen zones and
Speaker 1: street shutdowns that make UN General Assembly week the time
Speaker 1: that all new Yorkers of all vintages ask themselves the
Speaker 1: same question, why the F do I still live in
Speaker 1: this place? That nightmare of logistics has doubtless prevented countless
Speaker 1: terror attacks simply by making the would be perpetrators too
Speaker 1: frustrated to do anything but give up and go home.
Speaker 1: If they can find a sidewalk that isn't blocked anyway,
Speaker 1: it will all be under the control of the Secret Service.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, the only branch of government that has shot
Speaker 1: its credibility WAD with both Republicans and Democrats, and it
Speaker 1: is redolent of fighting the last war. But it does
Speaker 1: reduce the possibility of militia and other trumpest action during
Speaker 1: the certification. The problem is there's no way for Homeland
Speaker 1: Security to get inside the state legislatures, which would be
Speaker 1: willing to illegally short circuit an electoral college victory or
Speaker 1: a close one or a clear cut one, and do
Speaker 1: so by any scheme they can dream up. And with
Speaker 1: the reminder that it took exactly one week from the
Speaker 1: main cultural message of the Trump campaign to go from
Speaker 1: liberals love their cats too much to liberals let immigrants
Speaker 1: eat your cats. There is this a website called news Guard.
Speaker 1: It mainlines back to Steve Brill, who has his blemishes,
Speaker 1: but who has always actually worried about the media being
Speaker 1: accurate and purposeful. It has a reality check feature, and
Speaker 1: two of its writers, Sam Howard and Jack Brewster, have
Speaker 1: a really good postmortem on how the crackpot urban legend
Speaker 1: of immigrants eating cats in Springfield, Ohio went from this
Speaker 1: same internet neighborhood in which alligators not only occupy the
Speaker 1: subways of New York but actually operate the trains themselves.
Speaker 1: From there, it jumped right to a presidential debate. While
Speaker 1: referring you to the site newsguardrealitycheck dot com let me
Speaker 1: Purloin a couple of graphs, NewsGuard identified and tracked down
Speaker 1: the two people central to the claim Erica Lee, the
Speaker 1: Springfield resident who wrote the original Facebook post, and Kimberly Newton,
Speaker 1: the neighbor who had provided her with a third hand
Speaker 1: account of the rumor, making Lee's social media post a
Speaker 1: fourth hand account the alleged acquaintance cat owner Newton's friend Newton,
Speaker 1: and Lee who posted it on Facebook. Continuing in exclusive interviews,
Speaker 1: NewsGuard spoke both with Lee, a thirty five year old
Speaker 1: hardware store worker who has lived in Springfield for four years,
Speaker 1: and Newton her neighbor and a twelve year president of Springfield.
Speaker 1: The interviews revealed just how flimsy and unsubstantiated the rumor
Speaker 1: was from the beginning, based entirely on third hand hearsay,
Speaker 1: yet it quickly gained traction and remarkably found its way
Speaker 1: to Trump's lips on a national stage. Quote. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I'm the most credible source because I don't actually
Speaker 1: know the person who lost the cat, Newton said about
Speaker 1: the rumor she had passed on to her neighbor Lee,
Speaker 1: the Facebook poster. Newton explained to NewsGuard that the cat
Speaker 1: owner was an acquaintance of a friend, and that she
Speaker 1: heard about the supposed incident from that friend, who in
Speaker 1: turn learned about it from quote a source that she had.
Speaker 1: Newton added, I don't have any proof. That adds up
Speaker 1: to three people with no firsthand knowledge of the allegedly
Speaker 1: victimized cat, Newton's friend Newton, and then her neighbor Lee.
Speaker 1: Or perhaps it's for people if we count the source
Speaker 1: that Newton says her friend relied on. NewsGuard adds two postscripts.
Speaker 1: Ms Lee deleted the Facebook post because that always works,
Speaker 1: and then there's these sentences remarkable even for the Internet.
Speaker 1: Of twenty twenty four quote, Lee told us that she
Speaker 1: was shocked to see Trump repeat the claim that she
Speaker 1: had made in a private Facebook group. Honestly, it blew
Speaker 1: me away, Lee said, I didn't think that any of
Speaker 1: this would explode to the presidency. Lee described herself to
Speaker 1: NewsGuard as a Democrat who supports Donald Trump. Uh, here
Speaker 1: we go. Yeah, when you write it up, make it
Speaker 1: sound really gross. I don't care. Whatever you like, Trump
Speaker 1: will jump all ay and tell them you're a You're
Speaker 1: a Democrat, a Democrat who supports Donald Trump. Also of
Speaker 1: interest here I mentioned earlier that the mask has come
Speaker 1: off the little worm who has most adroitly exploited Trump's
Speaker 1: most rabid anti immigrant, anti Latino, anti humanity instincts. If
Speaker 1: you have not heard Stephen Miller actually being well eaten
Speaker 1: alive by an actual immigrant, a reporter from a television
Speaker 1: network from Colombia who only wanted to know why Miller
Speaker 1: and Trump believed the crime statistics promulgated by a crooked
Speaker 1: dictator like Maduro of Venezuela. If you haven't heard it,
Speaker 1: well stand by for news. It was entered into the
Speaker 1: Worst Person's Competition, and I don't want to blow the
Speaker 1: suspense here or affect the gambling, but it did very,
Speaker 1: very well. That's next. This is Countdown.
Speaker 2: This is Countdown with Keith Olberman.
Speaker 1: Stell ahead of us on this edition of Countdown. There
Speaker 1: is nothing worse than listening to an author or a reporter,
Speaker 1: or a podcaster or other creator giving a play by
Speaker 1: play of their imagination and their creative process, unless they
Speaker 1: do so while you think you are merely reading or
Speaker 1: listening to their work. Such it is in this week's
Speaker 1: Fridays with Thurber. Only if you are warned will you
Speaker 1: notice that he is describing his process in the story
Speaker 1: of how an overheard remark could blossom into a self
Speaker 1: satirical spy story coming up next. First, there are still
Speaker 1: more new idiots to talk about. The daily roundup of
Speaker 1: the miss Grants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who
Speaker 1: constitute two days worse persons in the world Lebron's Worst.
Speaker 1: Sarah Iger of ABC News. Yes, the network did a
Speaker 1: great job at the debate, and yes it can also
Speaker 1: be simultaneously true that they still employ this idiot as
Speaker 1: an on air political analyst and commentator, even though she
Speaker 1: is actually just another Trump lawyer waiting to get back
Speaker 1: into power. We had one of those metaphysical right and
Speaker 1: wrong debates on social media. It was a variation on
Speaker 1: the trolley track thing. This is about returning not the trolley,
Speaker 1: but the shopping cart at the supermarket parking lot, and
Speaker 1: how there's no emergency and there's no law that says
Speaker 1: you have to do it, and nobody's life depends on it.
Speaker 1: But whether or not you should return the cart anyway,
Speaker 1: just as a service to mankind, like picking up trash
Speaker 1: on the street while you're already bending over to tie
Speaker 1: your shoe or something. I'll spare you the whole debate.
Speaker 1: It went on for days, but Sarah Iger was enraged
Speaker 1: by this, particularly by the conclusion that returning the supermarket
Speaker 1: cart is easy and it is a sign of being
Speaker 1: a good person. Not to Sarah Iger, I can't effing
Speaker 1: stop thinking about the shopping cart. Theory goes the original post,
Speaker 1: and there are illustrations and there's a whole four paragraph
Speaker 1: explanation about how it's the right thing to do even
Speaker 1: though no one will catch you not doing it, And
Speaker 1: she retweeted it written by someone most likely a man
Speaker 1: who has never had two babies at the grocery store
Speaker 1: in the summer. You had your babies in the grocery store.
Speaker 1: I'm at the nailsalan, I'm at the grocery store. I'm
Speaker 1: at the combination nail salana and grocery store. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I got sidetracked into a insta cart commercial written by
Speaker 1: someone most likely a man who has never had two
Speaker 1: babies at the grocery store in the summer. You can't
Speaker 1: carry both and push the cart. You can't leave them
Speaker 1: in the car and return the cart. Well, Sarah Iger
Speaker 1: had backs and fourths with many others who insisted, you
Speaker 1: know what, they had somehow managed to put the cart
Speaker 1: back despite having two babies in arms at the supermarket,
Speaker 1: and they noted, how in the hell did you get
Speaker 1: your two kids out of your car and into the
Speaker 1: shopping cart in the first place if you found it
Speaker 1: physically impossible to get them out of the cart and
Speaker 1: into the car without leaving them in a hot car
Speaker 1: for ninety minutes or however long it took you to
Speaker 1: put the shopping cart back. This exchange was then reposted
Speaker 1: by someone who noted the irony atop the idiocy here
Speaker 1: from Sarah i Isger's Wikipedia page quote. While serving in
Speaker 1: the Justice Department, i Isger represented the Trump administration by
Speaker 1: defending the family separation policy as well as Executive Order
Speaker 1: one three seven sixty nine, known as the Trump travel ban.
Speaker 1: Her job was to punish parents trying to keep their
Speaker 1: babies with them. Punchline here. Sarah Iger deleted her post,
Speaker 1: but screenshots are forever and apparently her cushy job pretending
Speaker 1: to be neutral at ABC News is two. And we'll
Speaker 1: get back by the way to the Trump family separation
Speaker 1: policy in just a moment. But first, the runner up worser,
Speaker 1: Rachel campost Duffy, possibly the stupidest person on Fox News.
Speaker 1: And remember Fox News not only has a Jesse Waters show,
Speaker 1: has two Jesse Waters shows, and it has two Greg
Speaker 1: Guttfeld shows, and Rachel Campos Duffy may still be dumber
Speaker 1: than both of them. Campos Duffy is like the backup
Speaker 1: weekend morning co host or something. And she just discovered
Speaker 1: a conspiracy because The New York Post wrote this, how
Speaker 1: come I didn't know Debate moderator Lindsey Davis was Kamala's
Speaker 1: aka sorority sister till today. Not right. There's no way
Speaker 1: ABC would let a Trump fratbrow moderate last night's debate.
Speaker 1: How come you didn't know something because you're less informed
Speaker 1: than the average cat in Springfield, Ohio. Maybe also Trump
Speaker 1: fratbros moderating the debate, they would be against Trump. They
Speaker 1: went to school with him anyway. Kamala Harris is fifty
Speaker 1: nine years old, and she attended Howard University, where she
Speaker 1: was a member of a sorority called Alpha Kappa Alpha AKA.
Speaker 1: She graduated in nineteen eighty six. Lindsey Davis of ABC
Speaker 1: News is forty six years old. She went to the
Speaker 1: University of Virginia, where she was in the sorority called
Speaker 1: Alpha Kappa Alpha, and she graduated in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1: So there is a vague link between them thirteen years
Speaker 1: and one hundred and twenty miles separated, of course, But
Speaker 1: saying that's somehow relevant to whether or not they should
Speaker 1: be debate moderator and debater this is crazier than saying
Speaker 1: that because I graduated from Cornell and took multiple classes
Speaker 1: in the Arts and Sciences College there before I graduated
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, I am automatically in a political
Speaker 1: conspiracy with somebody else who graduated from Cornell and took
Speaker 1: multiple classes in the Arts and Sciences College there before
Speaker 1: I graduated or before she graduated in nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 1: and that person was a fellow alum of the university
Speaker 1: named Anne Culture. I don't think Ann Coulter and I
Speaker 1: are in a conspiracy just because we went to the
Speaker 1: same university, same sorority. My god, what world do you
Speaker 1: live in? By the way, Rachel Campost Duffy got her
Speaker 1: job after being on one of the last of those
Speaker 1: old MTV The Real World fake reality shows. One of
Speaker 1: her co stars was a guy named Sean Duffy. She
Speaker 1: married him, he ran for Congress, and suddenly, after twenty
Speaker 1: years on the fringes of TV and tryout after tryout
Speaker 1: after tryout on the view, she got hired by Fox
Speaker 1: and she's on there every weekend. But it's Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: who's getting favors or or something because she was like
Speaker 1: in the same fraternity in a different century, or sorority
Speaker 1: or I don't know what it was. I'm totally lost
Speaker 1: by what this woman thinks. The connection is between Lindsey
Speaker 1: Davis and Kamala Harris, how come you didn't know this,
Speaker 1: Rachel campost Duffy, because you're a moron. But our winner
Speaker 1: back to the family separation policy, Stephen Miller. You know
Speaker 1: Stephen Miller, He's the lack of brains behind Trump. If
Speaker 1: you wonder if Trump ever outsources his rage and racism
Speaker 1: and hatred and racism and rage and racism, wonder no more.
Speaker 1: If you have not seen this video, please look it up.
Speaker 1: In the interim, I'm just going to play you the
Speaker 1: entire audio in which the journalist Jose Maria del Pino
Speaker 1: of NTN twenty four news channel in the Nation of Colombia,
Speaker 1: covering most of the Latin American world. He pressed Miller
Speaker 1: over these nonsense statistics that Trump spouted again at the
Speaker 1: debate that Venezuela has sent all its criminals to the
Speaker 1: United States, and here are the statistics to prove it.
Speaker 1: Delpino had an inarguable point Trump and Miller, who is
Speaker 1: not only the tiny, bald, sweaty guy, but who is
Speaker 1: really nuts they are alt eying on and thus lending
Speaker 1: credibility to the Venezuelan governments. Statistics on crime under Venezuelan
Speaker 1: dictator Nicolas Maduro Now, why would anybody believe Nicholas Maduro,
Speaker 1: especially since Maduro claims to be not just a liberal
Speaker 1: but a socialist. Why would Trump and Stephen Miller be
Speaker 1: supporting Nicholas Maduro. Miller nearly proved that spontaneous human combustion
Speaker 1: is real.
Speaker 3: I mean, you've seen case after case these heartbreaking tragedies.
Speaker 3: Those ones are going to get found in deported farcy.
Speaker 3: And look at this, this Venezuelan gang. You have a
Speaker 3: Venezuelan gang that is taking over entire apartment buildings in Aurora, Colorado,
Speaker 3: and that's responsible, by the way, for some of the
Speaker 3: most heinous crimes that have happened all over the United States.
Speaker 3: The crime rate in Venezuela is down, I believe, a
Speaker 3: little bit over sixty percent over the last several years.
Speaker 2: A trusting the official feear yours from the Venezuelan dictatorship.
Speaker 3: Let's put it this way, if you're a dictator of
Speaker 3: a poor country with a high crime rate, wouldn't you
Speaker 3: send your criminals to our border?
Speaker 2: That wasn't my question? Are you trusting the figures of
Speaker 2: the dictatorships? Those are my duo numbers.
Speaker 3: Numbers I am believing that it is in the interest
Speaker 3: of a criminal dictator to let his criminals out of
Speaker 3: their jails and come to our country.
Speaker 2: Have numbers, real numbers, not the vership numbers.
Speaker 3: The Venezuelan gangs that you've seen the CCTV footage. I
Speaker 3: have question, who do you think answer me this?
Speaker 2: I mean it's from Venezuela. I know very well the
Speaker 2: situation of Karakas and many other cities.
Speaker 3: Tell me who were the people with the high powered
Speaker 3: rifles in the hallway of that department building?
Speaker 1: Who were they?
Speaker 3: They were guns from Venezuela, right, no American com But
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: Asking to you about figures numbers.
Speaker 1: Fuck to you is the facts are the dead bodies.
Speaker 2: The facts are you said that Karaka has a lowest
Speaker 2: crime rate down the USA?
Speaker 3: The facts are the mutilated bodies. The fact are the
Speaker 3: people in the marks that are dead.
Speaker 2: I was asking you about Caracas and the numbers in Caragas.
Speaker 2: Are you trusting the numbers of the dator cp interest
Speaker 2: in the fact.
Speaker 3: That Kamala Harris is the legal immigrants into this country
Speaker 3: who are raping and murdering children.
Speaker 2: I had been very respective, Why are you doing?
Speaker 3: Do you know who Joscelyn hunger is Do you know
Speaker 3: who she is?
Speaker 2: Do you know how many people who is experiencing bo is?
Speaker 1: She? Who is? Lake?
Speaker 3: And Riley? Who?
Speaker 2: Inning again?
Speaker 3: Because I'm yelling because children are being raped and murs.
Speaker 2: Just asking for figures and you have no reply to
Speaker 2: me about those figures murdered?
Speaker 1: Do you know who killer?
Speaker 3: Hen?
Speaker 2: You trust the numbers of Nicolas Mada? You're asking a game.
Speaker 3: Trust a ruthless dictator will empty his prisons and send
Speaker 3: their criminals to our country. To trust his numbers. The
Speaker 3: most dangerous gang in Venezuela is trusting Conas Malrudo. I
Speaker 3: trust that he does not want his criminals.
Speaker 2: To be so you believe in his numbers.
Speaker 3: I believe he's sending his criminals to our country.
Speaker 2: Do you think that the crime braid in Venezuela have degrees?
Speaker 3: Not believe the law enforcement reports of Venezuelan gangs in
Speaker 3: this country?
Speaker 2: I was asking for the Venezuela and government figures.
Speaker 3: The figures here are Venezuelan gangs in this country or not?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Or no?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Are the figures that you say to say that in
Speaker 2: Karraccas the number is slower than near.
Speaker 3: The USA Venezuelan gangs in this country or not. So
Speaker 3: you don't have numbers are venezuel You know who has numbers,
Speaker 3: the Department of Homeland Security. You can ask my orchest
Speaker 3: for numbers. You can ask the director Ray for the numbers.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: You said you think that in Venezuela the crime rate
Speaker 2: is lower than the USA. Yes, because what are your numbers?
Speaker 3: That's my question, because the criminals are here now, those
Speaker 3: area's numbers can tell you again the border patrol agents
Speaker 3: are encountering foul number. I trust the border agents in
Speaker 3: our country and I.
Speaker 2: Am not saying that has a lower crime rate.
Speaker 3: Children are dead, and you are wasting my tiel.
Speaker 2: I am not your thing. I'm asking for Fahni as
Speaker 2: a journalist.
Speaker 3: Do you have any remorse for the dead children?
Speaker 1: Do you care all about the dead children?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: The And that's what I want to leave.
Speaker 2: You with is that Donald Trump will quest for figures.
Speaker 1: Here's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is going to be elected president and the
Speaker 3: migrant gangs are going to be sent home. Children's lives
Speaker 3: will be saved, and you know wh will benefit the
Speaker 3: most are the working class Hispanic communities that are besieged
Speaker 3: by gang violences. So the schools that are being overtaken
Speaker 3: by migrant gangs. You have Emas thirteen that is brutalizing children.
Speaker 3: You have Kayla Hamilton, who is twenty year old autistic
Speaker 3: girl who was raped and.
Speaker 1: Murdered, beaten to death.
Speaker 3: That will end, That will stop, and our children's lives
Speaker 3: will be saved. That is the most virtuous thing that
Speaker 3: can possibly be done. We are going to save the
Speaker 3: lives of our children. We will not let Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: condemn them to a life of misery, suffering and death.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm to replay my question, Stephen, I trust
Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro Miller exited stage right. I know someone who
Speaker 1: went to high school with Stephen Miller in California who
Speaker 1: insists that Miller's blind, raging hatred of Hispanics. He's the
Speaker 1: border guy, the deportation guy, the iago behind Trump on
Speaker 1: this particular topic. And we just heard him in full irrational,
Speaker 1: moronic rage, self contradictory rage. We just heard it. We
Speaker 1: just got the peak behind the curtain to this worm Miller.
Speaker 1: My friend or swears that Miller's hatred of Hispanics originated
Speaker 1: when a girl of Mexican heritage in their high school
Speaker 1: turned Miller down for a date. Swears that's the backstory,
Speaker 1: the whole backstory. That's what all of this is about.
Speaker 1: Any Who, Stephen, oh my god, you just got owned
Speaker 1: by a guy named Jose Maria del Pino. Miller two
Speaker 1: Day's worst person in the world to the number one
Speaker 1: story on the Countdown, and it is Fridays with Thurber.
Speaker 1: And thus the number one story on the Countdown is
Speaker 1: Fridays with James Thurber. Many of the great writers, great stories,
Speaker 1: the short stories, the fables, have great meaning or symbolism,
Speaker 1: and some of them are just great fun. Let me
Speaker 1: give you one of the latter from the Thurber Carnival.
Speaker 1: It will explain itself fairly quickly. The Lady on one
Speaker 1: four to two by James Thurber. The train was twenty
Speaker 1: minutes late, we found out when we bought our tickets.
Speaker 1: So we sat down on a bench in the little
Speaker 1: waiting room of the Cornwall Bridge station. It was too
Speaker 1: hot outside in the sun. This Midsummer Saturday had got
Speaker 1: off to a sulky start, and now at three in
Speaker 1: the afternoon it sat sticky and restive in our laps
Speaker 1: There were several others beside Sylvia and myself, waiting for
Speaker 1: the train to get in from Pittsfield. An older woman
Speaker 1: who fanned herself with a daily news, a young lady
Speaker 1: in her twenties reading a book, A slender, tanned man
Speaker 1: sucking dreamily on the stem of an unlighted pipe. In
Speaker 1: the center of the room, leaning against a high iron radiator,
Speaker 1: A small girl stared at each of us in turn,
Speaker 1: her mouth open, as if she had never seen people before.
Speaker 1: The place had the familiar pleasant smell of railroad stations
Speaker 1: in the country, of something compounded of wood and leather
Speaker 1: and smoke. In the cramped space behind the ticket window,
Speaker 1: a telegraph instrument clicked intermittently, and once or twice a
Speaker 1: phone rang, and the station master answered it briefly. I
Speaker 1: couldn't hear what he said. I was glad on such
Speaker 1: a day that we were going only as far as Gaylordsville.
Speaker 1: The third stopped down the line, twenty two minutes away.
Speaker 1: The station master had told us that our tickets were
Speaker 1: the first tickets to Gaylordsville he'd ever old. I was
Speaker 1: idly pondering this small distinction when a train whistle blew
Speaker 1: in the distance We all got to our feet, but
Speaker 1: the station master came out of his cubby hole and
Speaker 1: told us it was not our train, but the twelve
Speaker 1: forty five from New York northbound. Presently, the train thundered
Speaker 1: in like a hurricane and sighed ponderously to a stop.
Speaker 1: The station master went out into the platform and came back.
Speaker 1: After a minute or two. The train got heavily underway
Speaker 1: again for Canaan. I was opening a pack of cigarettes
Speaker 1: when I heard the station master talking on the phone again.
Speaker 1: This time his words came out clearly. He kept repeating
Speaker 1: one sentence. He was saying, Conductor Reagan on one four
Speaker 1: to two. As the lady the office was talking about.
Speaker 1: The person on the other end of the line did
Speaker 1: not appear to get the meaning of the sentence. The
Speaker 1: station master repeated it and hung up. For some reason.
Speaker 1: I figured that he did not understand it either. Sylvia's
Speaker 1: eyes had the lost reflective look they wear when she's
Speaker 1: trying to remember in what box she packed the Christmas
Speaker 1: tree ornaments. The expressions on the faces of the older woman,
Speaker 1: the young lady, and the man with the pipe had
Speaker 1: not changed. The little staring girl had gone away. Our
Speaker 1: train was not due for another five minutes, and I
Speaker 1: sat back and began trying to reconstruct the lady on
Speaker 1: one four to two the lady conductor Reagan had the
Speaker 1: lady the office was asking about. I moved nearer to
Speaker 1: Sylvia and whispered, see if the trains are numbered in
Speaker 1: your timetable. She got the timetable out of her handbag
Speaker 1: and looked at it. One forty two, she said, is
Speaker 1: the twelve forty five from New York. This was the
Speaker 1: train that had gone by a few minutes before. The
Speaker 1: woman was taken sick, said Sylvia. They're probably arranging to
Speaker 1: have a doctor or her family meet her. The older
Speaker 1: woman looked around at her briefly. The young woman who
Speaker 1: had been chewing gum stopped chewing. The man with the
Speaker 1: pipe seemed oblivious. I lighted a cigarette and sat thinking
Speaker 1: the woman on one four to two. I said to
Speaker 1: Sylvia flatly, might be almost anything, but she is definitely
Speaker 1: not sick. The only person who did not stare at
Speaker 1: me was the man with the pipe. Sylvia gave me
Speaker 1: her temperature, taking look across between anxiety and vexation. Just
Speaker 1: then our train whistled and we all stood up. I
Speaker 1: picked up our two bags, and Sylvia took the sack
Speaker 1: of string beans we had picked up for the connals.
Speaker 1: When the train came clanking in, I said in Sylvia's ear,
Speaker 1: he'll sit near us. You watch hoo. Who will she
Speaker 1: said the stranger? I told her, the man with the pipe.
Speaker 1: Sylvia laughed, he's not She said, he works for the breeds.
Speaker 1: I was certainly that he did not work for the breeds.
Speaker 1: Women like to place people. Every stranger reminds him of somebody.
Speaker 1: The man with the pipe was sitting three seats in
Speaker 1: front of us, across the aisle. When we got settled,
Speaker 1: I indicated him with a nod of my head. Sylvia
Speaker 1: took a book out of the top of her overnight
Speaker 1: bag and opened it. What's the matter with you, she demanded.
Speaker 1: I looked around before replying. A sleepy man and women
Speaker 1: sat across from us. Two middle aged women in the
Speaker 1: seat in front of us were discussing the severe griping
Speaker 1: pain one of them had experienced as a result of
Speaker 1: inflamed diverticulitis. A slim, dark eyed young woman sat in
Speaker 1: the seat behind us. She was alone. The trouble with women,
Speaker 1: I began, is that they explain everything by illness. I
Speaker 1: have a theory that we could be celebrating the twelfth
Speaker 1: of May, or even the sixteenth of April as Independence
Speaker 1: Day if missus Jefferson hadn't got the idea. Her husband
Speaker 1: had a fever and put him to bed. Sylvia found
Speaker 1: her place in the book. We've been all through that before.
Speaker 1: She said, why couldn't the woman on one for two
Speaker 1: be sick? That was easy, I told her. Conductor Reagan,
Speaker 1: I said, got off the train at Cornwall Bridge and
Speaker 1: spoke to the station master. I've got the woman the
Speaker 1: office was asking about, he said. Sylvia cut in. He said,
Speaker 1: Lady I gave the little laugh that annoys her. All conductors, say, lady,
Speaker 1: I explained, Now, if a woman had got sick on
Speaker 1: the train, Reagan would have said, a woman got sick
Speaker 1: on my train. Tell the office. What must have happened
Speaker 1: is that Reagan found somewhere between Kent and Cornwall Bridge
Speaker 1: a woman the office had been looking for. Sylvia did
Speaker 1: not close her book, but she looked up. Maybe she
Speaker 1: got sick before she got on the train, and the
Speaker 1: office was worried, said Sylvia. She was not giving the
Speaker 1: problem close attention. If the office knew she got on
Speaker 1: the train, I said, patiently. They wouldn't have asked Reagan
Speaker 1: to let them know if he found her. They would
Speaker 1: have told him about her when she got on. Sylvia
Speaker 1: resumed her reading. Let's stay out of it, she said,
Speaker 1: it isn't any of our business. I hunted for my
Speaker 1: chicklets but couldn't find them. It might be everybody's business,
Speaker 1: I said, every Patriots I know. I know, said Sylvia.
Speaker 1: You think she's a spy, Well, I think she's sick.
Speaker 1: I ignored that every conductor on the line has been
Speaker 1: asked to look out for her. Said Reagan found her,
Speaker 1: she won't be met by her family. She'll be met
Speaker 1: by the FBI or the OPA, said Sylvia. Alfred Hitchcock.
Speaker 1: Things don't happen on the New York, New Haven and
Speaker 1: Hartford Railroad. I saw the conductor coming from the other
Speaker 1: end of the couch. I'm going to tell the conductor,
Speaker 1: I said that Reagan on one four to two has
Speaker 1: got the woman. No you're not, said Sylvia. You're not
Speaker 1: going to get us in mixed up in this. He
Speaker 1: probably knows. Anyway. The conductor, short, stocky, silver haired, and silent,
Speaker 1: took up our tickets. He looked like a kindly Icky's Sylvia,
Speaker 1: who had stiffened, relaxed when I let him go by
Speaker 1: without a word about the woman on one four to two.
Speaker 1: He looks exactly as if he knew where the Maltese
Speaker 1: falcon is hidden, doesn't, he said Sylvia, with the laugh
Speaker 1: that annoys me. Nevertheless, I pointed out you said a
Speaker 1: little while ago that he probably knows about the woman
Speaker 1: on one four two. If she's just sick, why should
Speaker 1: they tell the conductor on this train. I'll rest more
Speaker 1: easily when I know that they've actually got her. Sylvia
Speaker 1: kept reading as if she hadn't heard me. I leaned
Speaker 1: my head against the back of the seat and closed
Speaker 1: my eyes. The train was slowing down noisily, and a
Speaker 1: brakeman was yelling can't, can't. When I felt a small
Speaker 1: cold pressure against my shoulder. Oh, the voice of the
Speaker 1: woman in the seat behind me said, I've dropped my
Speaker 1: copy of Coronet under your seat. She leaned closer, and
Speaker 1: her voice became low and hard. Get off here, mister,
Speaker 1: she said. We're going to Gaylordsville. I said, you and
Speaker 1: your wife are getting off here, mister, she said. I
Speaker 1: reached for the suitcases on the rack. Why do you
Speaker 1: want for heaven's sake, asked Sylvia. We're getting off here.
Speaker 1: I told her, are you really crazy? She demanded, This
Speaker 1: is only can't come on, sister, said the woman's voice.
Speaker 1: You take the overnight bag and the beans. You take
Speaker 1: the big bag. Mister. Sylvia was furious. I knew you'd
Speaker 1: get us into this, she said to me, shouting about
Speaker 1: spies at the top of your voice. That made me angry.
Speaker 1: You're the one who mentioned spies. I told her, I didn't.
Speaker 1: You kept talking about it and talking about it, said Sylvia,
Speaker 1: Come on, get off. The two of you, said the cold,
Speaker 1: hard voice. We got off. As I helped Sylvia down
Speaker 1: the steps, I said, we know too much. I'll shut up.
Speaker 1: She said. We didn't have far to go. A big
Speaker 1: black limousine waited a few steps away. Behind the wheel
Speaker 1: sat a heavy set foreigner with cruel lips and small eyes.
Speaker 1: He scowled when he saw us. The boss don't want
Speaker 1: nobody up there, he said, it's all right, Carl said,
Speaker 1: the woman get in, She told us. We climbed into
Speaker 1: the back seat. She sat between us with the gun
Speaker 1: in her hand. It was a handsome jeweled derringer. Alice'll
Speaker 1: be waiting for us at Gaylord's Belle, said Sylvia. In
Speaker 1: all this heat. The house was a long, low, rambling
Speaker 1: building reached at the end of a poplar lined drive.
Speaker 1: Never mind the bags, said the woman. Sylvia took the
Speaker 1: string beans and her book and we got out. Two
Speaker 1: huge matstiffs came bounding off the terrace, snarling. Down Mada,
Speaker 1: said the woman. Down pedro They slunk away, still snarling.
Speaker 1: Sylvia and I sat side by side on a sofa
Speaker 1: in a large, handsomely appointed living room. Across from us,
Speaker 1: in a chair lounged a tall man with heavily lidded
Speaker 1: black eyes and long sensitive fingers. Against the door through
Speaker 1: which we had entered the room leaned a thin, undersized
Speaker 1: young man with his hands in the pockets of his
Speaker 1: coat and a cigarette hanging from his lower lip. He
Speaker 1: had a drawn, sallow face, and his small, half closed
Speaker 1: eyes stared at us incuriously. In a corner of the room,
Speaker 1: a squat, swarthy man twiddled with the dials of a radio.
Speaker 1: The woman paced up and down, smoking a cigarette in
Speaker 1: a long holder. Well Gail, said the lounging man in
Speaker 1: a soft voice. To what do we owe this unexpected visit?
Speaker 1: Gail kept pacing. They got Sandra, she said. Finally, the
Speaker 1: lounging man did not change expression. Who got Sandra, Gail?
Speaker 1: He asked softly. Reagan on one four to two, said Gail.
Speaker 1: The squat swarthy man jumped to his feet all the time.
Speaker 1: Egypt say kill the Reagan. He shouted all the time,
Speaker 1: Egypt say bomb off thiss Reagan. The lounging man did
Speaker 1: not look at him. Sit down, Egypt, he said quietly.
Speaker 1: The swarthy man sat down. Gail went on talking. The
Speaker 1: punk here shot off his mouth. He said, he was wise.
Speaker 1: I looked at the man leaning against the door. She
Speaker 1: means you, said Sylvia, who laughed, Dame was dumb. Gail
Speaker 1: went on. She thought the lady on the train was sick. Now,
Speaker 1: I laughed, she means you, I said to Sylvia. The
Speaker 1: punk was blowing his top all over the train, said Gail.
Speaker 1: I had to bring him along. Sylvia, who had the
Speaker 1: beans on her lap, began breaking and stringing them. Well,
Speaker 1: my dear lady, said the lounging man. A most homely
Speaker 1: little touch. What's a touch? Demanded Egypt, touch, I told him. Gail,
Speaker 1: sat down in a chair. Who's going to rub him out?
Speaker 1: She asked. Freday said the lounging man. Egypt was on
Speaker 1: his feet again. Nah nah, he shouted, not the punk,
Speaker 1: the punk bump off the last six seven people. The
Speaker 1: lounging man looked at him. Egypt paled and sat down.
Speaker 1: I thought you were the punk, said Sylvia. I looked
Speaker 1: at her coldly. I know where I have seen you before,
Speaker 1: I said to the lounging man. It was at Zagreb
Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty seven. Tilden took you in straight sets,
Speaker 1: six loves, six love, six love. The man's eyes glittered.
Speaker 1: I think I bump off this man myself, he said.
Speaker 1: Freddy walked over and handed the lounging man an automatic.
Speaker 1: At this moment, the door Freddy had been leaning against
Speaker 1: burst open, and in rushed the man with the pipe, shouting, Dail, Dail,
Speaker 1: Gail Gaylordsville. Gaylordsville bawled the brakeman. Sylvia was shaking me
Speaker 1: by the arm. Quit mouaning, she said, everybody's looking at you.
Speaker 1: I rubbed my forehead with a handkerchief. Hurry up, she said.
Speaker 1: Sylvia said, they don't stop here long. I pulled the
Speaker 1: bags down and we got off. Have you got the beans?
Speaker 1: I asked Sylvia. Alice Connell was waiting for us on
Speaker 1: the way to their home. In the car, Sylvia began
Speaker 1: to tell Alice about the woman on one four to two.
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. He thought she was a spy,
Speaker 1: said Sylvia. They both laughed. She'll probably got sick on
Speaker 1: the train, said Alice. They would probably be arranging for
Speaker 1: a doctor to meet her at the station. That's just
Speaker 1: what I told him, said Sylvia. I lighted a cigarette.
Speaker 1: The lady one four to two, I said firmly, was
Speaker 1: definitely not sick. Oh Lord, said Sylvia. Here we go again,
Speaker 1: the lady on one four to two by James Thurber.
Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here, nearly
Speaker 1: as much as Stephen Miller did to himself and Trump.
Speaker 1: It was a good week. Thank you for listening. We're
Speaker 1: now back to five episodes a week, posting nightly just
Speaker 1: after midnight Eastern and on YouTube. By now I find
Speaker 1: out it's five am. Once again, there is now a
Speaker 1: Monday Countdown. Ryan Ray and John Phillip Shonell, the musical directors,
Speaker 1: have Countdown Arrange, produced and performed most of our music.
Speaker 1: Mister Chanelle was the one handling the orchestration and the keyboards.
Speaker 1: Mister Ray was on the guitars, bass and drums, and
Speaker 1: it was produced by Tko Brothers. Our satirical and pithy
Speaker 1: musical comments are by the best baseball stadium organist ever,
Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. Of course, the sports music is the Old
Speaker 1: wrooman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis
Speaker 1: courtesy of ESPN Inc. Other music arranged and performed by
Speaker 1: the group No Horns Allowed. My announcer today was my
Speaker 1: friend Larry David. Everything else was pretty much my fault.
Speaker 1: So that's countdown for this, the fifty fourth day until
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty fourth presidential election, the one three hundred
Speaker 1: and fortieth day since the convicted felon dementia J Trump's
Speaker 1: first attempted coup against the democratically elected government of the
Speaker 1: United States. Use the election, use the mental health system,
Speaker 1: use presidential immunity if we have to to keep him
Speaker 1: from doing it again while we still God. It's a
Speaker 1: nail salon, it's a grocery store. It's a combination nail
Speaker 1: salon im grocery store. The next scheduled Countdown is Monday
Speaker 1: bulletins as the news requires till then. I'm keith Oldrimman.
Speaker 1: I don't know why that's stuck in my head. I'm
Speaker 1: keith Oldrimman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck.
Speaker 1: Countdown with keith Oldreman is a production of iHeartRadio. For
Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.