1 00:00:04,835 --> 00:00:22,435 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Donald 2 00:00:23,195 --> 00:00:28,475 Speaker 1: ducks out of another debate while inadvertently confirming he lost 3 00:00:28,515 --> 00:00:32,195 Speaker 1: the last one. The self destruction of the Trump campaign 4 00:00:32,515 --> 00:00:37,155 Speaker 1: and fascist political machine so thorough and unexpected that it 5 00:00:37,195 --> 00:00:42,315 Speaker 1: looks intentional, has escalated. They used to be evil and clever. 6 00:00:42,435 --> 00:00:44,995 Speaker 1: Now they are evil and stupid. They used to get 7 00:00:45,035 --> 00:00:47,875 Speaker 1: the jump on external enemies, Now they are being jumped 8 00:00:47,955 --> 00:00:52,435 Speaker 1: by internal enemies. And Laura Lumer is advising Trump to 9 00:00:52,435 --> 00:00:54,675 Speaker 1: do all the wrong things, while the last people who 10 00:00:54,675 --> 00:00:57,075 Speaker 1: had advised him to do all the wrong things, Lindsey 11 00:00:57,075 --> 00:01:00,275 Speaker 1: Blood in the Streets Graham and Marjorie Barney Rubbell Green 12 00:01:00,555 --> 00:01:04,755 Speaker 1: have identified the real enemy, Laura Lumer and the the 13 00:01:04,835 --> 00:01:08,475 Speaker 1: evil not so much genius as evil head shaped like 14 00:01:08,515 --> 00:01:13,075 Speaker 1: a penis. Stephen Miller has melted down in an on 15 00:01:13,355 --> 00:01:18,475 Speaker 1: camera rant in which he somehow wound up defending Venezuelan 16 00:01:18,635 --> 00:01:23,515 Speaker 1: dictator and supposed leftist Nicolas Maduro. But back to the 17 00:01:23,515 --> 00:01:28,435 Speaker 1: biggest danger to Donald Trump right now, Donald Trump. This 18 00:01:28,595 --> 00:01:33,075 Speaker 1: happened moments after a little noticed tweet resurfaced from one 19 00:01:33,075 --> 00:01:37,315 Speaker 1: of his house elves, Congressman Mike Collins of Georgia. As 20 00:01:37,355 --> 00:01:41,315 Speaker 1: the debate ended Tuesday night, Collins had written, quote, you 21 00:01:41,395 --> 00:01:44,595 Speaker 1: want to know who won, find out who refuses to 22 00:01:44,675 --> 00:01:49,195 Speaker 1: do a second debate. Literally within minutes, Trump refused to 23 00:01:49,315 --> 00:01:54,115 Speaker 1: do a second debate, so burnt out that he reused 24 00:01:54,155 --> 00:01:56,995 Speaker 1: his line from Wednesday. Trump posted at three oh eight 25 00:01:57,075 --> 00:02:00,275 Speaker 1: Eastern yesterday. When a prize fighter loses a fight, the 26 00:02:00,275 --> 00:02:02,955 Speaker 1: first words out of his mouth are, I want to rematch. 27 00:02:03,235 --> 00:02:07,875 Speaker 1: Holes clearly showed that I I won the debate. They didn't. 28 00:02:07,915 --> 00:02:10,355 Speaker 1: But of course, were Trump to admit this, I suspect 29 00:02:10,395 --> 00:02:14,915 Speaker 1: he would die. I mean this literally. If Trump somehow 30 00:02:14,955 --> 00:02:19,075 Speaker 1: acknowledged his utter failure, the violent self destruction of his 31 00:02:19,275 --> 00:02:22,995 Speaker 1: entire ecosystem would be so damaging that he could no 32 00:02:23,075 --> 00:02:28,635 Speaker 1: longer exist. So then blah blah blah confuses political asylum 33 00:02:28,715 --> 00:02:32,235 Speaker 1: with mental asylums. Again, again contradicts himself by noting that 34 00:02:32,275 --> 00:02:35,435 Speaker 1: he insisted on a second debate with Biden, tries to 35 00:02:35,475 --> 00:02:38,035 Speaker 1: take the one glimmer of an impact he made during 36 00:02:38,075 --> 00:02:41,715 Speaker 1: his closing statement about problems not solved during this presidency, 37 00:02:42,475 --> 00:02:45,515 Speaker 1: and then in all caps, so you know he's especially 38 00:02:45,595 --> 00:02:50,315 Speaker 1: crazy today quote there will be no third debate exclamation 39 00:02:50,475 --> 00:02:54,555 Speaker 1: point was that Mike Collins quote. Again, you want to 40 00:02:54,635 --> 00:02:57,595 Speaker 1: know who one find out who refuses to do a 41 00:02:57,715 --> 00:03:02,995 Speaker 1: second debate. That's Congressman Mike Collins, who, thirty six minutes 42 00:03:03,475 --> 00:03:08,035 Speaker 1: after Trump was showed in Butler, Pennsylvania by another maga 43 00:03:08,075 --> 00:03:13,035 Speaker 1: Republican gun nut on July thirteenth, had posted quote, Joe 44 00:03:13,035 --> 00:03:18,915 Speaker 1: Biden sent the orders. Mike Collins says Trump lost the debate, 45 00:03:19,995 --> 00:03:25,955 Speaker 1: and Trump confirmed that Trump lost the debate. Undaunted, Donald 46 00:03:26,035 --> 00:03:30,555 Speaker 1: Duck continued his happy warrior campaign in Tucson with more 47 00:03:30,715 --> 00:03:33,715 Speaker 1: clear and convincing policy speeches. 48 00:03:34,355 --> 00:03:39,395 Speaker 2: Now, Arizonas are experiencing an affordability crisis, and this is 49 00:03:39,435 --> 00:03:40,715 Speaker 2: a crisis of no. 50 00:03:41,155 --> 00:03:45,915 Speaker 1: Say Rain and bushwagon horn for Rain Kruger, Kruger, Hey 51 00:03:46,035 --> 00:03:47,115 Speaker 1: gonna row away? 52 00:03:48,035 --> 00:03:48,315 Speaker 3: Cutter? 53 00:03:48,835 --> 00:03:50,275 Speaker 2: Now, who can argue with that? 54 00:03:52,955 --> 00:03:58,435 Speaker 1: No, the sand hasn't about run out of his hour glass. Happily, 55 00:03:58,515 --> 00:04:02,635 Speaker 1: there is always the voice of reason here. Marjorie Taylor Green, 56 00:04:03,475 --> 00:04:06,835 Speaker 1: who attacked nine to eleven truth nut job Laura Lumer's 57 00:04:06,915 --> 00:04:10,835 Speaker 1: racist attacks on Kamala Harris. Green is one of a 58 00:04:10,875 --> 00:04:14,475 Speaker 1: bunch of Republicans who are really worried that as Trump's 59 00:04:14,635 --> 00:04:18,075 Speaker 1: six week long losing streak continues, he is listening to 60 00:04:18,155 --> 00:04:22,435 Speaker 1: Lumer because Lumer is telling him everything is great and 61 00:04:22,475 --> 00:04:26,995 Speaker 1: he needs to lean into her racism and her conspiracy theories. 62 00:04:27,875 --> 00:04:31,235 Speaker 1: From my perspective, the real fear is Lumer is Trump's 63 00:04:31,275 --> 00:04:34,315 Speaker 1: conduit to the psycho and QAnon and militia crowd, which, 64 00:04:34,555 --> 00:04:38,315 Speaker 1: as his path through actual electoral victory eventually disappears, he 65 00:04:38,395 --> 00:04:42,195 Speaker 1: will turn to to try to overthrow the election, which 66 00:04:42,235 --> 00:04:45,395 Speaker 1: he will do. Do not dismiss that thought for a moment, 67 00:04:46,555 --> 00:04:50,435 Speaker 1: But for now we can also enjoy Green v. Lumer, 68 00:04:50,755 --> 00:04:53,995 Speaker 1: in which Lumer has replied by attacking Green's fealty to 69 00:04:54,115 --> 00:04:59,155 Speaker 1: Trump and her meandering social life, or, as Lumer put it, 70 00:04:59,555 --> 00:05:02,835 Speaker 1: tell me again, how you and the RV's in your 71 00:05:02,875 --> 00:05:09,315 Speaker 1: pants are representedives of the GOP Oh man, Do they 72 00:05:09,355 --> 00:05:12,515 Speaker 1: still have those Jamocha shakes at Arby's. We used to 73 00:05:12,555 --> 00:05:15,235 Speaker 1: have an Arby's between my TV station and my radio 74 00:05:15,275 --> 00:05:19,635 Speaker 1: station in LA. I love those shakes. Sorry, back to onreality. 75 00:05:20,275 --> 00:05:27,195 Speaker 1: Green was immediately defended by Lindsey Graham. Yes, Loomer's comments 76 00:05:27,235 --> 00:05:31,155 Speaker 1: about Harris are abhorrent, he said, but quote it's deeper 77 00:05:31,195 --> 00:05:33,275 Speaker 1: than that. I mean, you know some of the things 78 00:05:33,315 --> 00:05:36,955 Speaker 1: she said about Republicans and others is disturbing. Trump would 79 00:05:36,955 --> 00:05:39,755 Speaker 1: serve himself well to make sure this doesn't become a 80 00:05:39,795 --> 00:05:45,435 Speaker 1: bigger story. And that is never actually contradict Trump code. 81 00:05:45,915 --> 00:05:49,275 Speaker 1: For get a new younger woman to have a crush 82 00:05:49,355 --> 00:05:54,475 Speaker 1: on because that's ultimately what this is. Now it's Lumer. 83 00:05:55,435 --> 00:05:57,795 Speaker 1: He has a crush on her. He wants her to 84 00:05:57,915 --> 00:06:03,075 Speaker 1: be seen with him for a while. That was Alina Habba. 85 00:06:03,555 --> 00:06:06,235 Speaker 1: Before that it was the other spokes lawyer, Christina bob 86 00:06:06,235 --> 00:06:08,875 Speaker 1: And before that it was Hope Picks, and before that 87 00:06:08,955 --> 00:06:11,235 Speaker 1: it was that other woman who didn't make any sense 88 00:06:11,315 --> 00:06:13,715 Speaker 1: but used to hang around Trump a lot. What was 89 00:06:13,755 --> 00:06:41,275 Speaker 1: her name again? Oh, all right, Milania? Whatever happened to Melania? 90 00:06:42,675 --> 00:06:44,795 Speaker 1: The post of eate poles are coming in now and 91 00:06:44,835 --> 00:06:47,635 Speaker 1: they are strong but not spectacular. But there actually is 92 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:54,475 Speaker 1: an excellent observation on that from Nate Silver. Seriously. The 93 00:06:54,555 --> 00:06:57,515 Speaker 1: number is First Morning Consult, which has consistently shown Harris 94 00:06:57,635 --> 00:07:00,635 Speaker 1: up by four or three, now has her up nationally 95 00:07:00,675 --> 00:07:04,315 Speaker 1: by five. In polling it claims was done entirely the 96 00:07:04,435 --> 00:07:07,795 Speaker 1: day after the debate. IPSOS did a poll for Reuters, 97 00:07:08,155 --> 00:07:11,075 Speaker 1: some of which wasn't taken until yesterday and it is 98 00:07:11,155 --> 00:07:15,755 Speaker 1: also Harris up by five. Just as interestingly, IPSOS asked 99 00:07:15,795 --> 00:07:19,515 Speaker 1: Republicans who won the debate, only fifty three percent of 100 00:07:19,555 --> 00:07:22,235 Speaker 1: them could swallow hard enough to say Trump did, though 101 00:07:22,315 --> 00:07:26,075 Speaker 1: thirty one percent hid behind. No one won. There are 102 00:07:26,115 --> 00:07:30,875 Speaker 1: no winners here. We are all in this together. YouGov 103 00:07:31,475 --> 00:07:35,595 Speaker 1: showed no change in its poll Harris plus four, but 104 00:07:35,675 --> 00:07:39,955 Speaker 1: it found out that only thirty five percent of viewers 105 00:07:40,595 --> 00:07:44,635 Speaker 1: total thought the moderators had been unfair to Trump. That 106 00:07:44,755 --> 00:07:48,475 Speaker 1: means a lot of Republicans didn't if you were expecting 107 00:07:48,515 --> 00:07:52,795 Speaker 1: Harris's performance to give her a double digit lead by now. 108 00:07:52,995 --> 00:07:57,795 Speaker 1: That is where I'm actually saying this. Nate Silver's insight 109 00:07:58,115 --> 00:08:04,115 Speaker 1: is not merely reassuring, but instructive. When a candidate wins 110 00:08:04,155 --> 00:08:08,355 Speaker 1: a debate, he writes, some of the benefit comes not immediately, 111 00:08:08,715 --> 00:08:13,195 Speaker 1: but when they get strong news coverage for several days afterward, 112 00:08:13,635 --> 00:08:16,315 Speaker 1: or when voters who didn't watch the debate in real 113 00:08:16,395 --> 00:08:20,275 Speaker 1: time see clips or memes or discussions of the debate. 114 00:08:21,115 --> 00:08:24,555 Speaker 1: The debate got sixty five million viewers, a strong number, 115 00:08:24,795 --> 00:08:28,435 Speaker 1: but our model is projecting November turnout to be somewhere 116 00:08:28,435 --> 00:08:31,515 Speaker 1: between one hundred and fifty million and one hundred and 117 00:08:31,595 --> 00:08:34,795 Speaker 1: sixty five million voters, and most of those voters will 118 00:08:34,835 --> 00:08:39,995 Speaker 1: probably see or hear something about the debate eventually. That 119 00:08:40,115 --> 00:08:44,115 Speaker 1: means Harris's gains, if she has them, aren't likely to 120 00:08:44,155 --> 00:08:49,395 Speaker 1: be fully realized for a few days. That's such a 121 00:08:49,395 --> 00:08:53,275 Speaker 1: good observation that even Nate couldn't resist saying. So he 122 00:08:53,395 --> 00:08:56,635 Speaker 1: rescued that from behind his own paywall. He posted it, 123 00:08:56,675 --> 00:08:59,835 Speaker 1: and he added, this is a particularly important point, imo, 124 00:09:00,715 --> 00:09:03,515 Speaker 1: which is the Polster equivalent of Bill Murray years ago 125 00:09:03,555 --> 00:09:06,195 Speaker 1: on SNL doing a few filmed weekend update report from 126 00:09:06,195 --> 00:09:09,035 Speaker 1: a story, signing it off while on camera, then cutting 127 00:09:09,035 --> 00:09:11,315 Speaker 1: to himself in the studio at the anchor desk and saying, 128 00:09:12,275 --> 00:09:16,995 Speaker 1: thanks Bill, great report. Of course it is a particularly 129 00:09:16,995 --> 00:09:22,875 Speaker 1: important point, damn it. While we are technically inside the 130 00:09:22,915 --> 00:09:25,315 Speaker 1: legal segment, and you can tell we are, I played 131 00:09:25,315 --> 00:09:29,155 Speaker 1: the legal theme, okay, Liz Cheney I was fine with 132 00:09:29,475 --> 00:09:32,395 Speaker 1: she didn't jump on some sort of anti Trump bandwagon. 133 00:09:32,675 --> 00:09:36,635 Speaker 1: She co captained the January sixth committee. I don't care 134 00:09:36,635 --> 00:09:40,675 Speaker 1: if she hates me. I respect her. Her father endorsing 135 00:09:40,755 --> 00:09:45,355 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris that's a little tougher, but Bush wouldn't, so 136 00:09:45,395 --> 00:09:48,315 Speaker 1: I guess I have to respect that too. But now 137 00:09:48,755 --> 00:09:58,675 Speaker 1: jumping on the camelot bandwagon, Alberto Gonzalez, Alberto Gonzalez, Trump's 138 00:09:58,995 --> 00:10:05,635 Speaker 1: dumbest attorney general, the waterboarding and invasion of privacy one. 139 00:10:05,755 --> 00:10:10,715 Speaker 1: He not only endorsed her, he wrote a piece endorsing 140 00:10:10,755 --> 00:10:15,315 Speaker 1: her for Politico. I will give him this. That he 141 00:10:15,315 --> 00:10:18,435 Speaker 1: could write an entire article was a pleasant surprise to me. 142 00:10:20,635 --> 00:10:23,675 Speaker 1: Now this is legal stuff of value. How best to 143 00:10:23,715 --> 00:10:27,795 Speaker 1: prevent another January sixth? Will prepare for the next January sixth, No, 144 00:10:27,955 --> 00:10:32,715 Speaker 1: literally the next January sixth, the one in twenty twenty five. 145 00:10:33,395 --> 00:10:37,235 Speaker 1: Homeland Security has designated January sixth, twenty twenty five, the 146 00:10:37,275 --> 00:10:41,355 Speaker 1: certification of the electoral College vote by Congress, a National 147 00:10:41,755 --> 00:10:46,875 Speaker 1: Special Security Event, a designation described as a plan to 148 00:10:46,955 --> 00:10:49,195 Speaker 1: give it the same degree of protection as the Super 149 00:10:49,235 --> 00:10:53,715 Speaker 1: Bowl and the UN General Assembly. So next January sixth, 150 00:10:53,715 --> 00:10:57,195 Speaker 1: the District of Columbia will be as full of backchecks 151 00:10:57,755 --> 00:11:01,835 Speaker 1: and visible police presence as any of the Super Bowls 152 00:11:01,995 --> 00:11:06,115 Speaker 1: since the first Bush started the first Golf War, and 153 00:11:06,195 --> 00:11:09,955 Speaker 1: that will be combined with the maddening frozen zones and 154 00:11:10,035 --> 00:11:13,635 Speaker 1: street shutdowns that make UN General Assembly week the time 155 00:11:13,955 --> 00:11:17,595 Speaker 1: that all new Yorkers of all vintages ask themselves the 156 00:11:17,635 --> 00:11:21,075 Speaker 1: same question, why the F do I still live in 157 00:11:21,155 --> 00:11:29,275 Speaker 1: this place? That nightmare of logistics has doubtless prevented countless 158 00:11:29,355 --> 00:11:33,355 Speaker 1: terror attacks simply by making the would be perpetrators too 159 00:11:33,435 --> 00:11:36,235 Speaker 1: frustrated to do anything but give up and go home. 160 00:11:37,835 --> 00:11:43,075 Speaker 1: If they can find a sidewalk that isn't blocked anyway, 161 00:11:43,115 --> 00:11:45,475 Speaker 1: it will all be under the control of the Secret Service. 162 00:11:46,115 --> 00:11:48,075 Speaker 1: Uh oh, the only branch of government that has shot 163 00:11:48,115 --> 00:11:51,635 Speaker 1: its credibility WAD with both Republicans and Democrats, and it 164 00:11:51,795 --> 00:11:55,595 Speaker 1: is redolent of fighting the last war. But it does 165 00:11:55,675 --> 00:11:59,475 Speaker 1: reduce the possibility of militia and other trumpest action during 166 00:11:59,515 --> 00:12:03,235 Speaker 1: the certification. The problem is there's no way for Homeland 167 00:12:03,275 --> 00:12:06,515 Speaker 1: Security to get inside the state legislatures, which would be 168 00:12:06,515 --> 00:12:10,515 Speaker 1: willing to illegally short circuit an electoral college victory or 169 00:12:10,755 --> 00:12:13,835 Speaker 1: a close one or a clear cut one, and do 170 00:12:13,995 --> 00:12:25,635 Speaker 1: so by any scheme they can dream up. And with 171 00:12:25,755 --> 00:12:28,315 Speaker 1: the reminder that it took exactly one week from the 172 00:12:28,355 --> 00:12:31,435 Speaker 1: main cultural message of the Trump campaign to go from 173 00:12:31,515 --> 00:12:36,675 Speaker 1: liberals love their cats too much to liberals let immigrants 174 00:12:36,715 --> 00:12:42,115 Speaker 1: eat your cats. There is this a website called news Guard. 175 00:12:42,475 --> 00:12:45,515 Speaker 1: It mainlines back to Steve Brill, who has his blemishes, 176 00:12:45,875 --> 00:12:48,435 Speaker 1: but who has always actually worried about the media being 177 00:12:48,515 --> 00:12:52,155 Speaker 1: accurate and purposeful. It has a reality check feature, and 178 00:12:52,195 --> 00:12:54,995 Speaker 1: two of its writers, Sam Howard and Jack Brewster, have 179 00:12:55,075 --> 00:13:01,835 Speaker 1: a really good postmortem on how the crackpot urban legend 180 00:13:01,915 --> 00:13:06,075 Speaker 1: of immigrants eating cats in Springfield, Ohio went from this 181 00:13:06,235 --> 00:13:10,035 Speaker 1: same internet neighborhood in which alligators not only occupy the 182 00:13:10,035 --> 00:13:13,235 Speaker 1: subways of New York but actually operate the trains themselves. 183 00:13:13,915 --> 00:13:18,315 Speaker 1: From there, it jumped right to a presidential debate. While 184 00:13:18,315 --> 00:13:22,915 Speaker 1: referring you to the site newsguardrealitycheck dot com let me 185 00:13:23,115 --> 00:13:28,515 Speaker 1: Purloin a couple of graphs, NewsGuard identified and tracked down 186 00:13:28,555 --> 00:13:32,155 Speaker 1: the two people central to the claim Erica Lee, the 187 00:13:32,195 --> 00:13:36,475 Speaker 1: Springfield resident who wrote the original Facebook post, and Kimberly Newton, 188 00:13:36,715 --> 00:13:39,195 Speaker 1: the neighbor who had provided her with a third hand 189 00:13:39,235 --> 00:13:43,195 Speaker 1: account of the rumor, making Lee's social media post a 190 00:13:43,395 --> 00:13:49,395 Speaker 1: fourth hand account the alleged acquaintance cat owner Newton's friend Newton, 191 00:13:49,835 --> 00:13:54,595 Speaker 1: and Lee who posted it on Facebook. Continuing in exclusive interviews, 192 00:13:54,675 --> 00:13:57,555 Speaker 1: NewsGuard spoke both with Lee, a thirty five year old 193 00:13:57,835 --> 00:14:01,595 Speaker 1: hardware store worker who has lived in Springfield for four years, 194 00:14:02,035 --> 00:14:05,755 Speaker 1: and Newton her neighbor and a twelve year president of Springfield. 195 00:14:06,195 --> 00:14:09,795 Speaker 1: The interviews revealed just how flimsy and unsubstantiated the rumor 196 00:14:09,915 --> 00:14:13,915 Speaker 1: was from the beginning, based entirely on third hand hearsay, 197 00:14:14,275 --> 00:14:17,315 Speaker 1: yet it quickly gained traction and remarkably found its way 198 00:14:17,355 --> 00:14:22,035 Speaker 1: to Trump's lips on a national stage. Quote. I'm not 199 00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:26,235 Speaker 1: sure I'm the most credible source because I don't actually 200 00:14:26,275 --> 00:14:29,675 Speaker 1: know the person who lost the cat, Newton said about 201 00:14:29,675 --> 00:14:32,235 Speaker 1: the rumor she had passed on to her neighbor Lee, 202 00:14:32,555 --> 00:14:36,115 Speaker 1: the Facebook poster. Newton explained to NewsGuard that the cat 203 00:14:36,155 --> 00:14:39,875 Speaker 1: owner was an acquaintance of a friend, and that she 204 00:14:39,995 --> 00:14:42,835 Speaker 1: heard about the supposed incident from that friend, who in 205 00:14:42,875 --> 00:14:46,595 Speaker 1: turn learned about it from quote a source that she had. 206 00:14:47,555 --> 00:14:52,315 Speaker 1: Newton added, I don't have any proof. That adds up 207 00:14:52,355 --> 00:14:56,995 Speaker 1: to three people with no firsthand knowledge of the allegedly 208 00:14:57,115 --> 00:15:03,115 Speaker 1: victimized cat, Newton's friend Newton, and then her neighbor Lee. 209 00:15:04,155 --> 00:15:07,195 Speaker 1: Or perhaps it's for people if we count the source 210 00:15:07,715 --> 00:15:14,995 Speaker 1: that Newton says her friend relied on. NewsGuard adds two postscripts. 211 00:15:15,155 --> 00:15:20,275 Speaker 1: Ms Lee deleted the Facebook post because that always works, 212 00:15:20,675 --> 00:15:24,035 Speaker 1: and then there's these sentences remarkable even for the Internet. 213 00:15:24,115 --> 00:15:27,795 Speaker 1: Of twenty twenty four quote, Lee told us that she 214 00:15:27,995 --> 00:15:31,755 Speaker 1: was shocked to see Trump repeat the claim that she 215 00:15:31,875 --> 00:15:36,035 Speaker 1: had made in a private Facebook group. Honestly, it blew 216 00:15:36,075 --> 00:15:39,035 Speaker 1: me away, Lee said, I didn't think that any of 217 00:15:39,035 --> 00:15:44,235 Speaker 1: this would explode to the presidency. Lee described herself to 218 00:15:44,315 --> 00:15:53,275 Speaker 1: NewsGuard as a Democrat who supports Donald Trump. Uh, here 219 00:15:53,315 --> 00:16:01,675 Speaker 1: we go. Yeah, when you write it up, make it 220 00:16:01,715 --> 00:16:04,075 Speaker 1: sound really gross. I don't care. Whatever you like, Trump 221 00:16:04,075 --> 00:16:07,075 Speaker 1: will jump all ay and tell them you're a You're 222 00:16:07,075 --> 00:16:13,035 Speaker 1: a Democrat, a Democrat who supports Donald Trump. Also of 223 00:16:13,075 --> 00:16:16,195 Speaker 1: interest here I mentioned earlier that the mask has come 224 00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:20,515 Speaker 1: off the little worm who has most adroitly exploited Trump's 225 00:16:20,555 --> 00:16:27,235 Speaker 1: most rabid anti immigrant, anti Latino, anti humanity instincts. If 226 00:16:27,275 --> 00:16:31,635 Speaker 1: you have not heard Stephen Miller actually being well eaten 227 00:16:31,715 --> 00:16:35,355 Speaker 1: alive by an actual immigrant, a reporter from a television 228 00:16:35,355 --> 00:16:39,275 Speaker 1: network from Colombia who only wanted to know why Miller 229 00:16:39,315 --> 00:16:43,075 Speaker 1: and Trump believed the crime statistics promulgated by a crooked 230 00:16:43,115 --> 00:16:46,835 Speaker 1: dictator like Maduro of Venezuela. If you haven't heard it, 231 00:16:46,875 --> 00:16:51,355 Speaker 1: well stand by for news. It was entered into the 232 00:16:51,395 --> 00:16:54,075 Speaker 1: Worst Person's Competition, and I don't want to blow the 233 00:16:54,155 --> 00:16:58,715 Speaker 1: suspense here or affect the gambling, but it did very, 234 00:16:59,675 --> 00:17:03,395 Speaker 1: very well. That's next. This is Countdown. 235 00:17:05,555 --> 00:17:08,995 Speaker 2: This is Countdown with Keith Olberman. 236 00:17:29,195 --> 00:17:31,915 Speaker 1: Stell ahead of us on this edition of Countdown. There 237 00:17:31,995 --> 00:17:35,755 Speaker 1: is nothing worse than listening to an author or a reporter, 238 00:17:36,555 --> 00:17:40,715 Speaker 1: or a podcaster or other creator giving a play by 239 00:17:40,795 --> 00:17:45,435 Speaker 1: play of their imagination and their creative process, unless they 240 00:17:45,515 --> 00:17:48,955 Speaker 1: do so while you think you are merely reading or 241 00:17:48,995 --> 00:17:53,275 Speaker 1: listening to their work. Such it is in this week's 242 00:17:53,315 --> 00:17:56,795 Speaker 1: Fridays with Thurber. Only if you are warned will you 243 00:17:56,995 --> 00:18:02,635 Speaker 1: notice that he is describing his process in the story 244 00:18:02,675 --> 00:18:07,515 Speaker 1: of how an overheard remark could blossom into a self 245 00:18:07,675 --> 00:18:12,995 Speaker 1: satirical spy story coming up next. First, there are still 246 00:18:12,995 --> 00:18:15,275 Speaker 1: more new idiots to talk about. The daily roundup of 247 00:18:15,275 --> 00:18:18,355 Speaker 1: the miss Grants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who 248 00:18:18,395 --> 00:18:23,795 Speaker 1: constitute two days worse persons in the world Lebron's Worst. 249 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:28,995 Speaker 1: Sarah Iger of ABC News. Yes, the network did a 250 00:18:28,995 --> 00:18:31,315 Speaker 1: great job at the debate, and yes it can also 251 00:18:31,395 --> 00:18:35,155 Speaker 1: be simultaneously true that they still employ this idiot as 252 00:18:35,155 --> 00:18:38,315 Speaker 1: an on air political analyst and commentator, even though she 253 00:18:38,395 --> 00:18:42,595 Speaker 1: is actually just another Trump lawyer waiting to get back 254 00:18:42,595 --> 00:18:47,075 Speaker 1: into power. We had one of those metaphysical right and 255 00:18:47,195 --> 00:18:50,275 Speaker 1: wrong debates on social media. It was a variation on 256 00:18:50,355 --> 00:18:55,195 Speaker 1: the trolley track thing. This is about returning not the trolley, 257 00:18:55,235 --> 00:18:58,675 Speaker 1: but the shopping cart at the supermarket parking lot, and 258 00:18:58,715 --> 00:19:01,835 Speaker 1: how there's no emergency and there's no law that says 259 00:19:01,875 --> 00:19:04,755 Speaker 1: you have to do it, and nobody's life depends on it. 260 00:19:04,995 --> 00:19:08,995 Speaker 1: But whether or not you should return the cart anyway, 261 00:19:09,715 --> 00:19:13,915 Speaker 1: just as a service to mankind, like picking up trash 262 00:19:13,955 --> 00:19:16,635 Speaker 1: on the street while you're already bending over to tie 263 00:19:16,635 --> 00:19:19,755 Speaker 1: your shoe or something. I'll spare you the whole debate. 264 00:19:19,915 --> 00:19:24,115 Speaker 1: It went on for days, but Sarah Iger was enraged 265 00:19:24,235 --> 00:19:28,755 Speaker 1: by this, particularly by the conclusion that returning the supermarket 266 00:19:28,835 --> 00:19:31,795 Speaker 1: cart is easy and it is a sign of being 267 00:19:31,835 --> 00:19:35,915 Speaker 1: a good person. Not to Sarah Iger, I can't effing 268 00:19:36,075 --> 00:19:39,595 Speaker 1: stop thinking about the shopping cart. Theory goes the original post, 269 00:19:39,755 --> 00:19:43,595 Speaker 1: and there are illustrations and there's a whole four paragraph 270 00:19:43,675 --> 00:19:46,715 Speaker 1: explanation about how it's the right thing to do even 271 00:19:46,755 --> 00:19:49,355 Speaker 1: though no one will catch you not doing it, And 272 00:19:49,635 --> 00:19:54,675 Speaker 1: she retweeted it written by someone most likely a man 273 00:19:54,875 --> 00:19:58,675 Speaker 1: who has never had two babies at the grocery store 274 00:19:59,035 --> 00:20:03,715 Speaker 1: in the summer. You had your babies in the grocery store. 275 00:20:05,275 --> 00:20:08,915 Speaker 1: I'm at the nailsalan, I'm at the grocery store. I'm 276 00:20:08,955 --> 00:20:12,995 Speaker 1: at the combination nail salana and grocery store. I'm sorry, 277 00:20:12,995 --> 00:20:16,795 Speaker 1: I got sidetracked into a insta cart commercial written by 278 00:20:16,835 --> 00:20:19,435 Speaker 1: someone most likely a man who has never had two 279 00:20:19,475 --> 00:20:23,035 Speaker 1: babies at the grocery store in the summer. You can't 280 00:20:23,235 --> 00:20:26,915 Speaker 1: carry both and push the cart. You can't leave them 281 00:20:26,915 --> 00:20:32,075 Speaker 1: in the car and return the cart. Well, Sarah Iger 282 00:20:32,435 --> 00:20:35,875 Speaker 1: had backs and fourths with many others who insisted, you 283 00:20:35,915 --> 00:20:38,355 Speaker 1: know what, they had somehow managed to put the cart 284 00:20:38,395 --> 00:20:42,395 Speaker 1: back despite having two babies in arms at the supermarket, 285 00:20:42,435 --> 00:20:44,755 Speaker 1: and they noted, how in the hell did you get 286 00:20:44,795 --> 00:20:48,515 Speaker 1: your two kids out of your car and into the 287 00:20:48,555 --> 00:20:51,035 Speaker 1: shopping cart in the first place if you found it 288 00:20:51,075 --> 00:20:54,355 Speaker 1: physically impossible to get them out of the cart and 289 00:20:54,475 --> 00:20:57,155 Speaker 1: into the car without leaving them in a hot car 290 00:20:57,195 --> 00:20:59,715 Speaker 1: for ninety minutes or however long it took you to 291 00:20:59,715 --> 00:21:03,755 Speaker 1: put the shopping cart back. This exchange was then reposted 292 00:21:03,795 --> 00:21:07,875 Speaker 1: by someone who noted the irony atop the idiocy here 293 00:21:08,235 --> 00:21:12,755 Speaker 1: from Sarah i Isger's Wikipedia page quote. While serving in 294 00:21:12,795 --> 00:21:17,435 Speaker 1: the Justice Department, i Isger represented the Trump administration by 295 00:21:17,475 --> 00:21:23,395 Speaker 1: defending the family separation policy as well as Executive Order 296 00:21:23,875 --> 00:21:27,755 Speaker 1: one three seven sixty nine, known as the Trump travel ban. 297 00:21:28,155 --> 00:21:33,555 Speaker 1: Her job was to punish parents trying to keep their 298 00:21:33,635 --> 00:21:39,675 Speaker 1: babies with them. Punchline here. Sarah Iger deleted her post, 299 00:21:39,835 --> 00:21:44,995 Speaker 1: but screenshots are forever and apparently her cushy job pretending 300 00:21:45,035 --> 00:21:49,395 Speaker 1: to be neutral at ABC News is two. And we'll 301 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:51,995 Speaker 1: get back by the way to the Trump family separation 302 00:21:52,155 --> 00:21:55,835 Speaker 1: policy in just a moment. But first, the runner up worser, 303 00:21:56,155 --> 00:22:00,475 Speaker 1: Rachel campost Duffy, possibly the stupidest person on Fox News. 304 00:22:01,035 --> 00:22:04,235 Speaker 1: And remember Fox News not only has a Jesse Waters show, 305 00:22:04,795 --> 00:22:08,035 Speaker 1: has two Jesse Waters shows, and it has two Greg 306 00:22:08,075 --> 00:22:12,435 Speaker 1: Guttfeld shows, and Rachel Campos Duffy may still be dumber 307 00:22:12,475 --> 00:22:15,995 Speaker 1: than both of them. Campos Duffy is like the backup 308 00:22:16,155 --> 00:22:20,395 Speaker 1: weekend morning co host or something. And she just discovered 309 00:22:20,635 --> 00:22:24,875 Speaker 1: a conspiracy because The New York Post wrote this, how 310 00:22:24,915 --> 00:22:30,355 Speaker 1: come I didn't know Debate moderator Lindsey Davis was Kamala's 311 00:22:30,555 --> 00:22:35,835 Speaker 1: aka sorority sister till today. Not right. There's no way 312 00:22:35,915 --> 00:22:39,955 Speaker 1: ABC would let a Trump fratbrow moderate last night's debate. 313 00:22:41,075 --> 00:22:43,875 Speaker 1: How come you didn't know something because you're less informed 314 00:22:43,915 --> 00:22:49,755 Speaker 1: than the average cat in Springfield, Ohio. Maybe also Trump 315 00:22:49,795 --> 00:22:54,675 Speaker 1: fratbros moderating the debate, they would be against Trump. They 316 00:22:54,715 --> 00:22:58,035 Speaker 1: went to school with him anyway. Kamala Harris is fifty 317 00:22:58,115 --> 00:23:01,515 Speaker 1: nine years old, and she attended Howard University, where she 318 00:23:01,635 --> 00:23:05,755 Speaker 1: was a member of a sorority called Alpha Kappa Alpha AKA. 319 00:23:06,235 --> 00:23:09,955 Speaker 1: She graduated in nineteen eighty six. Lindsey Davis of ABC 320 00:23:10,075 --> 00:23:12,715 Speaker 1: News is forty six years old. She went to the 321 00:23:12,835 --> 00:23:16,395 Speaker 1: University of Virginia, where she was in the sorority called 322 00:23:16,635 --> 00:23:20,035 Speaker 1: Alpha Kappa Alpha, and she graduated in nineteen ninety nine. 323 00:23:20,435 --> 00:23:24,875 Speaker 1: So there is a vague link between them thirteen years 324 00:23:24,875 --> 00:23:28,875 Speaker 1: and one hundred and twenty miles separated, of course, But 325 00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:31,915 Speaker 1: saying that's somehow relevant to whether or not they should 326 00:23:31,955 --> 00:23:36,435 Speaker 1: be debate moderator and debater this is crazier than saying 327 00:23:36,475 --> 00:23:40,795 Speaker 1: that because I graduated from Cornell and took multiple classes 328 00:23:40,835 --> 00:23:44,275 Speaker 1: in the Arts and Sciences College there before I graduated 329 00:23:44,315 --> 00:23:47,515 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, I am automatically in a political 330 00:23:47,555 --> 00:23:51,355 Speaker 1: conspiracy with somebody else who graduated from Cornell and took 331 00:23:51,435 --> 00:23:54,595 Speaker 1: multiple classes in the Arts and Sciences College there before 332 00:23:54,635 --> 00:23:58,275 Speaker 1: I graduated or before she graduated in nineteen eighty four, 333 00:23:58,995 --> 00:24:01,875 Speaker 1: and that person was a fellow alum of the university 334 00:24:02,235 --> 00:24:05,875 Speaker 1: named Anne Culture. I don't think Ann Coulter and I 335 00:24:05,915 --> 00:24:08,195 Speaker 1: are in a conspiracy just because we went to the 336 00:24:08,195 --> 00:24:13,315 Speaker 1: same university, same sorority. My god, what world do you 337 00:24:13,355 --> 00:24:15,955 Speaker 1: live in? By the way, Rachel Campost Duffy got her 338 00:24:16,115 --> 00:24:18,315 Speaker 1: job after being on one of the last of those 339 00:24:18,475 --> 00:24:22,995 Speaker 1: old MTV The Real World fake reality shows. One of 340 00:24:23,035 --> 00:24:25,675 Speaker 1: her co stars was a guy named Sean Duffy. She 341 00:24:25,835 --> 00:24:29,475 Speaker 1: married him, he ran for Congress, and suddenly, after twenty 342 00:24:29,635 --> 00:24:34,075 Speaker 1: years on the fringes of TV and tryout after tryout 343 00:24:34,115 --> 00:24:37,475 Speaker 1: after tryout on the view, she got hired by Fox 344 00:24:37,755 --> 00:24:40,915 Speaker 1: and she's on there every weekend. But it's Kamala Harris 345 00:24:41,035 --> 00:24:44,875 Speaker 1: who's getting favors or or something because she was like 346 00:24:45,035 --> 00:24:49,315 Speaker 1: in the same fraternity in a different century, or sorority 347 00:24:49,635 --> 00:24:52,715 Speaker 1: or I don't know what it was. I'm totally lost 348 00:24:52,755 --> 00:24:56,435 Speaker 1: by what this woman thinks. The connection is between Lindsey 349 00:24:56,515 --> 00:25:00,475 Speaker 1: Davis and Kamala Harris, how come you didn't know this, 350 00:25:00,635 --> 00:25:04,595 Speaker 1: Rachel campost Duffy, because you're a moron. But our winner 351 00:25:04,995 --> 00:25:09,195 Speaker 1: back to the family separation policy, Stephen Miller. You know 352 00:25:09,275 --> 00:25:13,395 Speaker 1: Stephen Miller, He's the lack of brains behind Trump. If 353 00:25:13,435 --> 00:25:18,595 Speaker 1: you wonder if Trump ever outsources his rage and racism 354 00:25:18,875 --> 00:25:23,955 Speaker 1: and hatred and racism and rage and racism, wonder no more. 355 00:25:24,435 --> 00:25:26,875 Speaker 1: If you have not seen this video, please look it up. 356 00:25:27,195 --> 00:25:28,795 Speaker 1: In the interim, I'm just going to play you the 357 00:25:28,915 --> 00:25:32,555 Speaker 1: entire audio in which the journalist Jose Maria del Pino 358 00:25:33,115 --> 00:25:36,995 Speaker 1: of NTN twenty four news channel in the Nation of Colombia, 359 00:25:37,395 --> 00:25:40,995 Speaker 1: covering most of the Latin American world. He pressed Miller 360 00:25:41,435 --> 00:25:46,075 Speaker 1: over these nonsense statistics that Trump spouted again at the 361 00:25:46,155 --> 00:25:50,395 Speaker 1: debate that Venezuela has sent all its criminals to the 362 00:25:50,515 --> 00:25:52,875 Speaker 1: United States, and here are the statistics to prove it. 363 00:25:53,955 --> 00:25:59,635 Speaker 1: Delpino had an inarguable point Trump and Miller, who is 364 00:25:59,675 --> 00:26:02,235 Speaker 1: not only the tiny, bald, sweaty guy, but who is 365 00:26:02,395 --> 00:26:06,555 Speaker 1: really nuts they are alt eying on and thus lending 366 00:26:06,635 --> 00:26:13,955 Speaker 1: credibility to the Venezuelan governments. Statistics on crime under Venezuelan 367 00:26:13,995 --> 00:26:19,675 Speaker 1: dictator Nicolas Maduro Now, why would anybody believe Nicholas Maduro, 368 00:26:20,475 --> 00:26:23,475 Speaker 1: especially since Maduro claims to be not just a liberal 369 00:26:23,715 --> 00:26:27,675 Speaker 1: but a socialist. Why would Trump and Stephen Miller be 370 00:26:27,955 --> 00:26:37,475 Speaker 1: supporting Nicholas Maduro. Miller nearly proved that spontaneous human combustion 371 00:26:38,315 --> 00:26:38,915 Speaker 1: is real. 372 00:26:39,235 --> 00:26:42,475 Speaker 3: I mean, you've seen case after case these heartbreaking tragedies. 373 00:26:42,675 --> 00:26:44,635 Speaker 3: Those ones are going to get found in deported farcy. 374 00:26:44,635 --> 00:26:47,275 Speaker 3: And look at this, this Venezuelan gang. You have a 375 00:26:47,395 --> 00:26:52,515 Speaker 3: Venezuelan gang that is taking over entire apartment buildings in Aurora, Colorado, 376 00:26:52,675 --> 00:26:54,195 Speaker 3: and that's responsible, by the way, for some of the 377 00:26:54,235 --> 00:26:57,395 Speaker 3: most heinous crimes that have happened all over the United States. 378 00:26:57,955 --> 00:27:00,635 Speaker 3: The crime rate in Venezuela is down, I believe, a 379 00:27:00,675 --> 00:27:03,355 Speaker 3: little bit over sixty percent over the last several years. 380 00:27:03,395 --> 00:27:06,395 Speaker 2: A trusting the official feear yours from the Venezuelan dictatorship. 381 00:27:07,235 --> 00:27:11,195 Speaker 3: Let's put it this way, if you're a dictator of 382 00:27:11,275 --> 00:27:15,195 Speaker 3: a poor country with a high crime rate, wouldn't you 383 00:27:15,755 --> 00:27:17,475 Speaker 3: send your criminals to our border? 384 00:27:17,555 --> 00:27:20,235 Speaker 2: That wasn't my question? Are you trusting the figures of 385 00:27:20,315 --> 00:27:23,075 Speaker 2: the dictatorships? Those are my duo numbers. 386 00:27:23,595 --> 00:27:26,395 Speaker 3: Numbers I am believing that it is in the interest 387 00:27:26,475 --> 00:27:29,555 Speaker 3: of a criminal dictator to let his criminals out of 388 00:27:29,555 --> 00:27:30,875 Speaker 3: their jails and come to our country. 389 00:27:30,955 --> 00:27:33,795 Speaker 2: Have numbers, real numbers, not the vership numbers. 390 00:27:33,475 --> 00:27:37,515 Speaker 3: The Venezuelan gangs that you've seen the CCTV footage. I 391 00:27:37,555 --> 00:27:39,275 Speaker 3: have question, who do you think answer me this? 392 00:27:39,395 --> 00:27:41,395 Speaker 2: I mean it's from Venezuela. I know very well the 393 00:27:41,435 --> 00:27:43,355 Speaker 2: situation of Karakas and many other cities. 394 00:27:43,475 --> 00:27:46,235 Speaker 3: Tell me who were the people with the high powered 395 00:27:46,315 --> 00:27:47,915 Speaker 3: rifles in the hallway of that department building? 396 00:27:47,915 --> 00:27:48,555 Speaker 1: Who were they? 397 00:27:48,755 --> 00:27:52,795 Speaker 3: They were guns from Venezuela, right, no American com But 398 00:27:52,835 --> 00:27:53,075 Speaker 3: I was. 399 00:27:53,075 --> 00:27:54,955 Speaker 2: Asking to you about figures numbers. 400 00:27:55,155 --> 00:27:57,555 Speaker 1: Fuck to you is the facts are the dead bodies. 401 00:27:57,795 --> 00:28:00,155 Speaker 2: The facts are you said that Karaka has a lowest 402 00:28:00,235 --> 00:28:01,675 Speaker 2: crime rate down the USA? 403 00:28:01,955 --> 00:28:05,475 Speaker 3: The facts are the mutilated bodies. The fact are the 404 00:28:05,555 --> 00:28:07,395 Speaker 3: people in the marks that are dead. 405 00:28:07,475 --> 00:28:10,195 Speaker 2: I was asking you about Caracas and the numbers in Caragas. 406 00:28:10,235 --> 00:28:12,715 Speaker 2: Are you trusting the numbers of the dator cp interest 407 00:28:13,075 --> 00:28:13,955 Speaker 2: in the fact. 408 00:28:13,755 --> 00:28:16,995 Speaker 3: That Kamala Harris is the legal immigrants into this country 409 00:28:17,075 --> 00:28:18,755 Speaker 3: who are raping and murdering children. 410 00:28:18,955 --> 00:28:20,875 Speaker 2: I had been very respective, Why are you doing? 411 00:28:21,355 --> 00:28:24,075 Speaker 3: Do you know who Joscelyn hunger is Do you know 412 00:28:24,115 --> 00:28:24,635 Speaker 3: who she is? 413 00:28:24,715 --> 00:28:28,915 Speaker 2: Do you know how many people who is experiencing bo is? 414 00:28:28,995 --> 00:28:29,875 Speaker 1: She? Who is? Lake? 415 00:28:29,955 --> 00:28:31,195 Speaker 3: And Riley? Who? 416 00:28:31,275 --> 00:28:31,915 Speaker 2: Inning again? 417 00:28:32,315 --> 00:28:35,835 Speaker 3: Because I'm yelling because children are being raped and murs. 418 00:28:35,955 --> 00:28:38,475 Speaker 2: Just asking for figures and you have no reply to 419 00:28:38,515 --> 00:28:40,075 Speaker 2: me about those figures murdered? 420 00:28:40,115 --> 00:28:40,795 Speaker 1: Do you know who killer? 421 00:28:40,835 --> 00:28:40,955 Speaker 3: Hen? 422 00:28:41,035 --> 00:28:43,435 Speaker 2: You trust the numbers of Nicolas Mada? You're asking a game. 423 00:28:43,515 --> 00:28:46,395 Speaker 3: Trust a ruthless dictator will empty his prisons and send 424 00:28:46,435 --> 00:28:49,355 Speaker 3: their criminals to our country. To trust his numbers. The 425 00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:53,635 Speaker 3: most dangerous gang in Venezuela is trusting Conas Malrudo. I 426 00:28:53,755 --> 00:28:56,835 Speaker 3: trust that he does not want his criminals. 427 00:28:56,515 --> 00:28:58,555 Speaker 2: To be so you believe in his numbers. 428 00:28:58,755 --> 00:29:00,875 Speaker 3: I believe he's sending his criminals to our country. 429 00:29:01,315 --> 00:29:03,755 Speaker 2: Do you think that the crime braid in Venezuela have degrees? 430 00:29:03,955 --> 00:29:06,595 Speaker 3: Not believe the law enforcement reports of Venezuelan gangs in 431 00:29:06,595 --> 00:29:07,035 Speaker 3: this country? 432 00:29:07,075 --> 00:29:09,315 Speaker 2: I was asking for the Venezuela and government figures. 433 00:29:09,795 --> 00:29:12,915 Speaker 3: The figures here are Venezuelan gangs in this country or not? 434 00:29:13,035 --> 00:29:13,195 Speaker 1: Yes? 435 00:29:13,275 --> 00:29:13,435 Speaker 2: Or no? 436 00:29:13,955 --> 00:29:14,155 Speaker 3: Yes? 437 00:29:14,235 --> 00:29:16,995 Speaker 2: Are the figures that you say to say that in 438 00:29:17,075 --> 00:29:19,395 Speaker 2: Karraccas the number is slower than near. 439 00:29:19,315 --> 00:29:21,715 Speaker 3: The USA Venezuelan gangs in this country or not. So 440 00:29:21,755 --> 00:29:24,995 Speaker 3: you don't have numbers are venezuel You know who has numbers, 441 00:29:25,395 --> 00:29:28,075 Speaker 3: the Department of Homeland Security. You can ask my orchest 442 00:29:28,075 --> 00:29:30,035 Speaker 3: for numbers. You can ask the director Ray for the numbers. 443 00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:30,835 Speaker 3: I'm telling you. 444 00:29:30,835 --> 00:29:33,475 Speaker 2: You said you think that in Venezuela the crime rate 445 00:29:33,795 --> 00:29:36,835 Speaker 2: is lower than the USA. Yes, because what are your numbers? 446 00:29:36,915 --> 00:29:40,155 Speaker 3: That's my question, because the criminals are here now, those 447 00:29:40,155 --> 00:29:44,315 Speaker 3: area's numbers can tell you again the border patrol agents 448 00:29:44,315 --> 00:29:48,395 Speaker 3: are encountering foul number. I trust the border agents in 449 00:29:48,435 --> 00:29:49,635 Speaker 3: our country and I. 450 00:29:49,595 --> 00:29:52,635 Speaker 2: Am not saying that has a lower crime rate. 451 00:29:53,555 --> 00:29:56,275 Speaker 3: Children are dead, and you are wasting my tiel. 452 00:29:56,355 --> 00:29:59,195 Speaker 2: I am not your thing. I'm asking for Fahni as 453 00:29:59,235 --> 00:29:59,915 Speaker 2: a journalist. 454 00:29:59,955 --> 00:30:01,795 Speaker 3: Do you have any remorse for the dead children? 455 00:30:01,995 --> 00:30:03,675 Speaker 1: Do you care all about the dead children? 456 00:30:03,715 --> 00:30:04,235 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 457 00:30:04,475 --> 00:30:05,995 Speaker 3: The And that's what I want to leave. 458 00:30:05,875 --> 00:30:08,955 Speaker 2: You with is that Donald Trump will quest for figures. 459 00:30:08,955 --> 00:30:09,915 Speaker 1: Here's what's gonna happen. 460 00:30:10,195 --> 00:30:12,315 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is going to be elected president and the 461 00:30:12,395 --> 00:30:15,595 Speaker 3: migrant gangs are going to be sent home. Children's lives 462 00:30:15,635 --> 00:30:17,515 Speaker 3: will be saved, and you know wh will benefit the 463 00:30:17,555 --> 00:30:21,755 Speaker 3: most are the working class Hispanic communities that are besieged 464 00:30:21,795 --> 00:30:25,555 Speaker 3: by gang violences. So the schools that are being overtaken 465 00:30:25,555 --> 00:30:29,795 Speaker 3: by migrant gangs. You have Emas thirteen that is brutalizing children. 466 00:30:30,115 --> 00:30:33,475 Speaker 3: You have Kayla Hamilton, who is twenty year old autistic 467 00:30:33,555 --> 00:30:35,275 Speaker 3: girl who was raped and. 468 00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:37,275 Speaker 1: Murdered, beaten to death. 469 00:30:37,755 --> 00:30:40,555 Speaker 3: That will end, That will stop, and our children's lives 470 00:30:40,555 --> 00:30:42,795 Speaker 3: will be saved. That is the most virtuous thing that 471 00:30:42,835 --> 00:30:45,275 Speaker 3: can possibly be done. We are going to save the 472 00:30:45,355 --> 00:30:48,115 Speaker 3: lives of our children. We will not let Kamala Harris 473 00:30:48,195 --> 00:30:52,435 Speaker 3: condemn them to a life of misery, suffering and death. 474 00:30:52,635 --> 00:30:57,035 Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm to replay my question, Stephen, I trust 475 00:30:57,115 --> 00:31:02,115 Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro Miller exited stage right. I know someone who 476 00:31:02,115 --> 00:31:04,875 Speaker 1: went to high school with Stephen Miller in California who 477 00:31:04,915 --> 00:31:10,115 Speaker 1: insists that Miller's blind, raging hatred of Hispanics. He's the 478 00:31:10,115 --> 00:31:13,915 Speaker 1: border guy, the deportation guy, the iago behind Trump on 479 00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:18,955 Speaker 1: this particular topic. And we just heard him in full irrational, 480 00:31:19,395 --> 00:31:26,635 Speaker 1: moronic rage, self contradictory rage. We just heard it. We 481 00:31:26,875 --> 00:31:31,475 Speaker 1: just got the peak behind the curtain to this worm Miller. 482 00:31:32,555 --> 00:31:37,195 Speaker 1: My friend or swears that Miller's hatred of Hispanics originated 483 00:31:37,595 --> 00:31:40,635 Speaker 1: when a girl of Mexican heritage in their high school 484 00:31:41,075 --> 00:31:46,035 Speaker 1: turned Miller down for a date. Swears that's the backstory, 485 00:31:46,555 --> 00:31:49,715 Speaker 1: the whole backstory. That's what all of this is about. 486 00:31:50,635 --> 00:31:54,435 Speaker 1: Any Who, Stephen, oh my god, you just got owned 487 00:31:54,435 --> 00:31:58,275 Speaker 1: by a guy named Jose Maria del Pino. Miller two 488 00:31:58,355 --> 00:32:08,915 Speaker 1: Day's worst person in the world to the number one 489 00:32:08,955 --> 00:32:11,835 Speaker 1: story on the Countdown, and it is Fridays with Thurber. 490 00:32:11,875 --> 00:32:13,835 Speaker 1: And thus the number one story on the Countdown is 491 00:32:13,955 --> 00:32:18,795 Speaker 1: Fridays with James Thurber. Many of the great writers, great stories, 492 00:32:19,195 --> 00:32:22,795 Speaker 1: the short stories, the fables, have great meaning or symbolism, 493 00:32:22,835 --> 00:32:25,195 Speaker 1: and some of them are just great fun. Let me 494 00:32:25,315 --> 00:32:28,475 Speaker 1: give you one of the latter from the Thurber Carnival. 495 00:32:29,355 --> 00:32:33,235 Speaker 1: It will explain itself fairly quickly. The Lady on one 496 00:32:33,395 --> 00:32:39,155 Speaker 1: four to two by James Thurber. The train was twenty 497 00:32:39,195 --> 00:32:41,835 Speaker 1: minutes late, we found out when we bought our tickets. 498 00:32:41,995 --> 00:32:43,915 Speaker 1: So we sat down on a bench in the little 499 00:32:43,915 --> 00:32:47,675 Speaker 1: waiting room of the Cornwall Bridge station. It was too 500 00:32:47,795 --> 00:32:51,635 Speaker 1: hot outside in the sun. This Midsummer Saturday had got 501 00:32:51,675 --> 00:32:54,515 Speaker 1: off to a sulky start, and now at three in 502 00:32:54,555 --> 00:33:00,155 Speaker 1: the afternoon it sat sticky and restive in our laps 503 00:33:01,075 --> 00:33:04,195 Speaker 1: There were several others beside Sylvia and myself, waiting for 504 00:33:04,235 --> 00:33:07,475 Speaker 1: the train to get in from Pittsfield. An older woman 505 00:33:07,515 --> 00:33:10,995 Speaker 1: who fanned herself with a daily news, a young lady 506 00:33:11,035 --> 00:33:14,595 Speaker 1: in her twenties reading a book, A slender, tanned man 507 00:33:15,075 --> 00:33:18,915 Speaker 1: sucking dreamily on the stem of an unlighted pipe. In 508 00:33:18,955 --> 00:33:22,315 Speaker 1: the center of the room, leaning against a high iron radiator, 509 00:33:22,355 --> 00:33:25,355 Speaker 1: A small girl stared at each of us in turn, 510 00:33:25,915 --> 00:33:30,355 Speaker 1: her mouth open, as if she had never seen people before. 511 00:33:31,475 --> 00:33:34,755 Speaker 1: The place had the familiar pleasant smell of railroad stations 512 00:33:34,755 --> 00:33:38,395 Speaker 1: in the country, of something compounded of wood and leather 513 00:33:38,515 --> 00:33:42,075 Speaker 1: and smoke. In the cramped space behind the ticket window, 514 00:33:42,315 --> 00:33:46,195 Speaker 1: a telegraph instrument clicked intermittently, and once or twice a 515 00:33:46,275 --> 00:33:49,955 Speaker 1: phone rang, and the station master answered it briefly. I 516 00:33:49,995 --> 00:33:53,195 Speaker 1: couldn't hear what he said. I was glad on such 517 00:33:53,195 --> 00:33:55,795 Speaker 1: a day that we were going only as far as Gaylordsville. 518 00:33:56,355 --> 00:33:59,075 Speaker 1: The third stopped down the line, twenty two minutes away. 519 00:33:59,835 --> 00:34:02,395 Speaker 1: The station master had told us that our tickets were 520 00:34:02,395 --> 00:34:06,475 Speaker 1: the first tickets to Gaylordsville he'd ever old. I was 521 00:34:06,635 --> 00:34:10,355 Speaker 1: idly pondering this small distinction when a train whistle blew 522 00:34:10,395 --> 00:34:13,515 Speaker 1: in the distance We all got to our feet, but 523 00:34:13,595 --> 00:34:15,755 Speaker 1: the station master came out of his cubby hole and 524 00:34:15,795 --> 00:34:18,155 Speaker 1: told us it was not our train, but the twelve 525 00:34:18,235 --> 00:34:22,595 Speaker 1: forty five from New York northbound. Presently, the train thundered 526 00:34:22,635 --> 00:34:25,515 Speaker 1: in like a hurricane and sighed ponderously to a stop. 527 00:34:26,115 --> 00:34:28,755 Speaker 1: The station master went out into the platform and came back. 528 00:34:28,795 --> 00:34:31,955 Speaker 1: After a minute or two. The train got heavily underway 529 00:34:31,995 --> 00:34:36,235 Speaker 1: again for Canaan. I was opening a pack of cigarettes 530 00:34:36,275 --> 00:34:39,035 Speaker 1: when I heard the station master talking on the phone again. 531 00:34:39,795 --> 00:34:44,795 Speaker 1: This time his words came out clearly. He kept repeating 532 00:34:45,235 --> 00:34:51,115 Speaker 1: one sentence. He was saying, Conductor Reagan on one four 533 00:34:51,155 --> 00:34:55,235 Speaker 1: to two. As the lady the office was talking about. 534 00:34:56,835 --> 00:34:58,355 Speaker 1: The person on the other end of the line did 535 00:34:58,395 --> 00:35:00,395 Speaker 1: not appear to get the meaning of the sentence. The 536 00:35:00,475 --> 00:35:04,635 Speaker 1: station master repeated it and hung up. For some reason. 537 00:35:05,235 --> 00:35:09,915 Speaker 1: I figured that he did not understand it either. Sylvia's 538 00:35:09,955 --> 00:35:12,835 Speaker 1: eyes had the lost reflective look they wear when she's 539 00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:15,795 Speaker 1: trying to remember in what box she packed the Christmas 540 00:35:15,795 --> 00:35:19,595 Speaker 1: tree ornaments. The expressions on the faces of the older woman, 541 00:35:19,715 --> 00:35:21,955 Speaker 1: the young lady, and the man with the pipe had 542 00:35:21,995 --> 00:35:27,155 Speaker 1: not changed. The little staring girl had gone away. Our 543 00:35:27,195 --> 00:35:29,115 Speaker 1: train was not due for another five minutes, and I 544 00:35:29,155 --> 00:35:32,075 Speaker 1: sat back and began trying to reconstruct the lady on 545 00:35:32,075 --> 00:35:36,835 Speaker 1: one four to two the lady conductor Reagan had the 546 00:35:36,915 --> 00:35:41,195 Speaker 1: lady the office was asking about. I moved nearer to 547 00:35:41,275 --> 00:35:46,635 Speaker 1: Sylvia and whispered, see if the trains are numbered in 548 00:35:46,715 --> 00:35:50,475 Speaker 1: your timetable. She got the timetable out of her handbag 549 00:35:50,515 --> 00:35:54,595 Speaker 1: and looked at it. One forty two, she said, is 550 00:35:54,595 --> 00:35:58,235 Speaker 1: the twelve forty five from New York. This was the 551 00:35:58,275 --> 00:36:00,475 Speaker 1: train that had gone by a few minutes before. The 552 00:36:00,555 --> 00:36:04,075 Speaker 1: woman was taken sick, said Sylvia. They're probably arranging to 553 00:36:04,075 --> 00:36:07,675 Speaker 1: have a doctor or her family meet her. The older 554 00:36:07,715 --> 00:36:10,195 Speaker 1: woman looked around at her briefly. The young woman who 555 00:36:10,195 --> 00:36:12,635 Speaker 1: had been chewing gum stopped chewing. The man with the 556 00:36:12,675 --> 00:36:17,475 Speaker 1: pipe seemed oblivious. I lighted a cigarette and sat thinking 557 00:36:18,235 --> 00:36:21,195 Speaker 1: the woman on one four to two. I said to 558 00:36:21,235 --> 00:36:26,275 Speaker 1: Sylvia flatly, might be almost anything, but she is definitely 559 00:36:26,515 --> 00:36:31,075 Speaker 1: not sick. The only person who did not stare at 560 00:36:31,155 --> 00:36:34,075 Speaker 1: me was the man with the pipe. Sylvia gave me 561 00:36:34,155 --> 00:36:38,395 Speaker 1: her temperature, taking look across between anxiety and vexation. Just 562 00:36:38,475 --> 00:36:41,635 Speaker 1: then our train whistled and we all stood up. I 563 00:36:41,715 --> 00:36:43,995 Speaker 1: picked up our two bags, and Sylvia took the sack 564 00:36:44,075 --> 00:36:46,315 Speaker 1: of string beans we had picked up for the connals. 565 00:36:47,795 --> 00:36:50,835 Speaker 1: When the train came clanking in, I said in Sylvia's ear, 566 00:36:51,835 --> 00:36:57,075 Speaker 1: he'll sit near us. You watch hoo. Who will she 567 00:36:57,195 --> 00:37:01,715 Speaker 1: said the stranger? I told her, the man with the pipe. 568 00:37:02,955 --> 00:37:07,355 Speaker 1: Sylvia laughed, he's not She said, he works for the breeds. 569 00:37:08,515 --> 00:37:11,315 Speaker 1: I was certainly that he did not work for the breeds. 570 00:37:12,115 --> 00:37:16,795 Speaker 1: Women like to place people. Every stranger reminds him of somebody. 571 00:37:16,915 --> 00:37:19,475 Speaker 1: The man with the pipe was sitting three seats in 572 00:37:19,515 --> 00:37:22,075 Speaker 1: front of us, across the aisle. When we got settled, 573 00:37:22,555 --> 00:37:26,395 Speaker 1: I indicated him with a nod of my head. Sylvia 574 00:37:26,435 --> 00:37:28,355 Speaker 1: took a book out of the top of her overnight 575 00:37:28,395 --> 00:37:32,155 Speaker 1: bag and opened it. What's the matter with you, she demanded. 576 00:37:32,955 --> 00:37:36,595 Speaker 1: I looked around before replying. A sleepy man and women 577 00:37:36,715 --> 00:37:39,435 Speaker 1: sat across from us. Two middle aged women in the 578 00:37:39,435 --> 00:37:42,835 Speaker 1: seat in front of us were discussing the severe griping 579 00:37:42,995 --> 00:37:45,675 Speaker 1: pain one of them had experienced as a result of 580 00:37:46,115 --> 00:37:52,555 Speaker 1: inflamed diverticulitis. A slim, dark eyed young woman sat in 581 00:37:52,595 --> 00:37:57,555 Speaker 1: the seat behind us. She was alone. The trouble with women, 582 00:37:57,995 --> 00:38:01,955 Speaker 1: I began, is that they explain everything by illness. I 583 00:38:01,995 --> 00:38:04,475 Speaker 1: have a theory that we could be celebrating the twelfth 584 00:38:04,555 --> 00:38:07,595 Speaker 1: of May, or even the sixteenth of April as Independence 585 00:38:07,675 --> 00:38:11,155 Speaker 1: Day if missus Jefferson hadn't got the idea. Her husband 586 00:38:11,195 --> 00:38:15,755 Speaker 1: had a fever and put him to bed. Sylvia found 587 00:38:15,755 --> 00:38:18,995 Speaker 1: her place in the book. We've been all through that before. 588 00:38:19,395 --> 00:38:23,195 Speaker 1: She said, why couldn't the woman on one for two 589 00:38:23,315 --> 00:38:28,435 Speaker 1: be sick? That was easy, I told her. Conductor Reagan, 590 00:38:28,675 --> 00:38:31,835 Speaker 1: I said, got off the train at Cornwall Bridge and 591 00:38:31,955 --> 00:38:35,595 Speaker 1: spoke to the station master. I've got the woman the 592 00:38:35,715 --> 00:38:40,795 Speaker 1: office was asking about, he said. Sylvia cut in. He said, 593 00:38:40,915 --> 00:38:47,155 Speaker 1: Lady I gave the little laugh that annoys her. All conductors, say, lady, 594 00:38:47,755 --> 00:38:50,235 Speaker 1: I explained, Now, if a woman had got sick on 595 00:38:50,275 --> 00:38:53,515 Speaker 1: the train, Reagan would have said, a woman got sick 596 00:38:53,555 --> 00:38:57,075 Speaker 1: on my train. Tell the office. What must have happened 597 00:38:57,435 --> 00:39:01,155 Speaker 1: is that Reagan found somewhere between Kent and Cornwall Bridge 598 00:39:01,195 --> 00:39:06,435 Speaker 1: a woman the office had been looking for. Sylvia did 599 00:39:06,475 --> 00:39:09,915 Speaker 1: not close her book, but she looked up. Maybe she 600 00:39:10,035 --> 00:39:12,235 Speaker 1: got sick before she got on the train, and the 601 00:39:12,275 --> 00:39:16,835 Speaker 1: office was worried, said Sylvia. She was not giving the 602 00:39:16,875 --> 00:39:20,755 Speaker 1: problem close attention. If the office knew she got on 603 00:39:20,795 --> 00:39:25,155 Speaker 1: the train, I said, patiently. They wouldn't have asked Reagan 604 00:39:25,595 --> 00:39:28,715 Speaker 1: to let them know if he found her. They would 605 00:39:28,715 --> 00:39:34,355 Speaker 1: have told him about her when she got on. Sylvia 606 00:39:34,435 --> 00:39:37,435 Speaker 1: resumed her reading. Let's stay out of it, she said, 607 00:39:37,555 --> 00:39:41,355 Speaker 1: it isn't any of our business. I hunted for my 608 00:39:41,555 --> 00:39:46,795 Speaker 1: chicklets but couldn't find them. It might be everybody's business, 609 00:39:46,995 --> 00:39:53,675 Speaker 1: I said, every Patriots I know. I know, said Sylvia. 610 00:39:53,955 --> 00:39:57,395 Speaker 1: You think she's a spy, Well, I think she's sick. 611 00:39:59,235 --> 00:40:02,955 Speaker 1: I ignored that every conductor on the line has been 612 00:40:03,035 --> 00:40:06,795 Speaker 1: asked to look out for her. Said Reagan found her, 613 00:40:07,715 --> 00:40:10,435 Speaker 1: she won't be met by her family. She'll be met 614 00:40:10,475 --> 00:40:18,035 Speaker 1: by the FBI or the OPA, said Sylvia. Alfred Hitchcock. 615 00:40:18,155 --> 00:40:20,275 Speaker 1: Things don't happen on the New York, New Haven and 616 00:40:20,355 --> 00:40:24,795 Speaker 1: Hartford Railroad. I saw the conductor coming from the other 617 00:40:24,875 --> 00:40:27,075 Speaker 1: end of the couch. I'm going to tell the conductor, 618 00:40:27,155 --> 00:40:29,555 Speaker 1: I said that Reagan on one four to two has 619 00:40:29,595 --> 00:40:32,115 Speaker 1: got the woman. No you're not, said Sylvia. You're not 620 00:40:32,155 --> 00:40:33,955 Speaker 1: going to get us in mixed up in this. He 621 00:40:34,035 --> 00:40:40,515 Speaker 1: probably knows. Anyway. The conductor, short, stocky, silver haired, and silent, 622 00:40:40,755 --> 00:40:45,915 Speaker 1: took up our tickets. He looked like a kindly Icky's Sylvia, 623 00:40:46,075 --> 00:40:49,235 Speaker 1: who had stiffened, relaxed when I let him go by 624 00:40:49,435 --> 00:40:51,595 Speaker 1: without a word about the woman on one four to two. 625 00:40:52,635 --> 00:40:55,355 Speaker 1: He looks exactly as if he knew where the Maltese 626 00:40:55,395 --> 00:40:58,275 Speaker 1: falcon is hidden, doesn't, he said Sylvia, with the laugh 627 00:40:58,315 --> 00:41:02,955 Speaker 1: that annoys me. Nevertheless, I pointed out you said a 628 00:41:02,955 --> 00:41:05,035 Speaker 1: little while ago that he probably knows about the woman 629 00:41:05,075 --> 00:41:08,515 Speaker 1: on one four two. If she's just sick, why should 630 00:41:08,555 --> 00:41:13,275 Speaker 1: they tell the conductor on this train. I'll rest more 631 00:41:13,315 --> 00:41:18,315 Speaker 1: easily when I know that they've actually got her. Sylvia 632 00:41:18,395 --> 00:41:21,675 Speaker 1: kept reading as if she hadn't heard me. I leaned 633 00:41:21,715 --> 00:41:23,795 Speaker 1: my head against the back of the seat and closed 634 00:41:23,835 --> 00:41:28,075 Speaker 1: my eyes. The train was slowing down noisily, and a 635 00:41:28,115 --> 00:41:33,875 Speaker 1: brakeman was yelling can't, can't. When I felt a small 636 00:41:34,235 --> 00:41:39,915 Speaker 1: cold pressure against my shoulder. Oh, the voice of the 637 00:41:39,955 --> 00:41:42,515 Speaker 1: woman in the seat behind me said, I've dropped my 638 00:41:42,635 --> 00:41:46,315 Speaker 1: copy of Coronet under your seat. She leaned closer, and 639 00:41:46,355 --> 00:41:50,115 Speaker 1: her voice became low and hard. Get off here, mister, 640 00:41:50,595 --> 00:41:54,875 Speaker 1: she said. We're going to Gaylordsville. I said, you and 641 00:41:54,915 --> 00:41:59,915 Speaker 1: your wife are getting off here, mister, she said. I 642 00:41:59,995 --> 00:42:02,315 Speaker 1: reached for the suitcases on the rack. Why do you 643 00:42:02,355 --> 00:42:06,675 Speaker 1: want for heaven's sake, asked Sylvia. We're getting off here. 644 00:42:06,955 --> 00:42:10,395 Speaker 1: I told her, are you really crazy? She demanded, This 645 00:42:10,555 --> 00:42:15,035 Speaker 1: is only can't come on, sister, said the woman's voice. 646 00:42:15,475 --> 00:42:18,035 Speaker 1: You take the overnight bag and the beans. You take 647 00:42:18,075 --> 00:42:22,755 Speaker 1: the big bag. Mister. Sylvia was furious. I knew you'd 648 00:42:22,795 --> 00:42:25,555 Speaker 1: get us into this, she said to me, shouting about 649 00:42:25,715 --> 00:42:30,475 Speaker 1: spies at the top of your voice. That made me angry. 650 00:42:30,675 --> 00:42:33,715 Speaker 1: You're the one who mentioned spies. I told her, I didn't. 651 00:42:34,515 --> 00:42:37,795 Speaker 1: You kept talking about it and talking about it, said Sylvia, 652 00:42:38,195 --> 00:42:40,635 Speaker 1: Come on, get off. The two of you, said the cold, 653 00:42:40,755 --> 00:42:44,835 Speaker 1: hard voice. We got off. As I helped Sylvia down 654 00:42:44,875 --> 00:42:48,995 Speaker 1: the steps, I said, we know too much. I'll shut up. 655 00:42:49,475 --> 00:42:53,195 Speaker 1: She said. We didn't have far to go. A big 656 00:42:53,315 --> 00:42:56,915 Speaker 1: black limousine waited a few steps away. Behind the wheel 657 00:42:56,955 --> 00:43:01,435 Speaker 1: sat a heavy set foreigner with cruel lips and small eyes. 658 00:43:02,395 --> 00:43:06,155 Speaker 1: He scowled when he saw us. The boss don't want 659 00:43:06,195 --> 00:43:10,355 Speaker 1: nobody up there, he said, it's all right, Carl said, 660 00:43:10,395 --> 00:43:13,555 Speaker 1: the woman get in, She told us. We climbed into 661 00:43:13,555 --> 00:43:15,835 Speaker 1: the back seat. She sat between us with the gun 662 00:43:15,875 --> 00:43:21,235 Speaker 1: in her hand. It was a handsome jeweled derringer. Alice'll 663 00:43:21,275 --> 00:43:24,355 Speaker 1: be waiting for us at Gaylord's Belle, said Sylvia. In 664 00:43:24,435 --> 00:43:29,315 Speaker 1: all this heat. The house was a long, low, rambling 665 00:43:29,355 --> 00:43:32,115 Speaker 1: building reached at the end of a poplar lined drive. 666 00:43:33,075 --> 00:43:36,035 Speaker 1: Never mind the bags, said the woman. Sylvia took the 667 00:43:36,035 --> 00:43:39,115 Speaker 1: string beans and her book and we got out. Two 668 00:43:39,355 --> 00:43:44,755 Speaker 1: huge matstiffs came bounding off the terrace, snarling. Down Mada, 669 00:43:45,235 --> 00:43:50,715 Speaker 1: said the woman. Down pedro They slunk away, still snarling. 670 00:43:52,275 --> 00:43:54,875 Speaker 1: Sylvia and I sat side by side on a sofa 671 00:43:54,915 --> 00:43:58,275 Speaker 1: in a large, handsomely appointed living room. Across from us, 672 00:43:58,275 --> 00:44:01,155 Speaker 1: in a chair lounged a tall man with heavily lidded 673 00:44:01,275 --> 00:44:05,195 Speaker 1: black eyes and long sensitive fingers. Against the door through 674 00:44:05,195 --> 00:44:08,555 Speaker 1: which we had entered the room leaned a thin, undersized 675 00:44:08,595 --> 00:44:11,035 Speaker 1: young man with his hands in the pockets of his 676 00:44:11,115 --> 00:44:14,155 Speaker 1: coat and a cigarette hanging from his lower lip. He 677 00:44:14,235 --> 00:44:17,435 Speaker 1: had a drawn, sallow face, and his small, half closed 678 00:44:17,435 --> 00:44:22,115 Speaker 1: eyes stared at us incuriously. In a corner of the room, 679 00:44:22,115 --> 00:44:25,075 Speaker 1: a squat, swarthy man twiddled with the dials of a radio. 680 00:44:25,595 --> 00:44:29,995 Speaker 1: The woman paced up and down, smoking a cigarette in 681 00:44:30,075 --> 00:44:34,715 Speaker 1: a long holder. Well Gail, said the lounging man in 682 00:44:34,715 --> 00:44:38,435 Speaker 1: a soft voice. To what do we owe this unexpected visit? 683 00:44:39,355 --> 00:44:45,995 Speaker 1: Gail kept pacing. They got Sandra, she said. Finally, the 684 00:44:46,035 --> 00:44:50,395 Speaker 1: lounging man did not change expression. Who got Sandra, Gail? 685 00:44:50,995 --> 00:44:56,475 Speaker 1: He asked softly. Reagan on one four to two, said Gail. 686 00:44:57,355 --> 00:45:01,115 Speaker 1: The squat swarthy man jumped to his feet all the time. 687 00:45:01,195 --> 00:45:04,675 Speaker 1: Egypt say kill the Reagan. He shouted all the time, 688 00:45:04,835 --> 00:45:09,035 Speaker 1: Egypt say bomb off thiss Reagan. The lounging man did 689 00:45:09,115 --> 00:45:12,715 Speaker 1: not look at him. Sit down, Egypt, he said quietly. 690 00:45:13,395 --> 00:45:17,395 Speaker 1: The swarthy man sat down. Gail went on talking. The 691 00:45:17,475 --> 00:45:21,595 Speaker 1: punk here shot off his mouth. He said, he was wise. 692 00:45:23,035 --> 00:45:26,035 Speaker 1: I looked at the man leaning against the door. She 693 00:45:26,315 --> 00:45:32,995 Speaker 1: means you, said Sylvia, who laughed, Dame was dumb. Gail 694 00:45:33,075 --> 00:45:36,635 Speaker 1: went on. She thought the lady on the train was sick. Now, 695 00:45:36,795 --> 00:45:41,915 Speaker 1: I laughed, she means you, I said to Sylvia. The 696 00:45:41,995 --> 00:45:44,875 Speaker 1: punk was blowing his top all over the train, said Gail. 697 00:45:45,435 --> 00:45:49,075 Speaker 1: I had to bring him along. Sylvia, who had the 698 00:45:49,115 --> 00:45:53,515 Speaker 1: beans on her lap, began breaking and stringing them. Well, 699 00:45:53,595 --> 00:45:57,675 Speaker 1: my dear lady, said the lounging man. A most homely 700 00:45:57,755 --> 00:46:04,555 Speaker 1: little touch. What's a touch? Demanded Egypt, touch, I told him. Gail, 701 00:46:04,755 --> 00:46:07,755 Speaker 1: sat down in a chair. Who's going to rub him out? 702 00:46:08,115 --> 00:46:13,395 Speaker 1: She asked. Freday said the lounging man. Egypt was on 703 00:46:13,475 --> 00:46:17,155 Speaker 1: his feet again. Nah nah, he shouted, not the punk, 704 00:46:17,355 --> 00:46:21,555 Speaker 1: the punk bump off the last six seven people. The 705 00:46:21,595 --> 00:46:25,355 Speaker 1: lounging man looked at him. Egypt paled and sat down. 706 00:46:27,115 --> 00:46:30,875 Speaker 1: I thought you were the punk, said Sylvia. I looked 707 00:46:30,875 --> 00:46:35,875 Speaker 1: at her coldly. I know where I have seen you before, 708 00:46:36,155 --> 00:46:38,635 Speaker 1: I said to the lounging man. It was at Zagreb 709 00:46:38,675 --> 00:46:42,555 Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty seven. Tilden took you in straight sets, 710 00:46:42,915 --> 00:46:48,115 Speaker 1: six loves, six love, six love. The man's eyes glittered. 711 00:46:48,795 --> 00:46:51,755 Speaker 1: I think I bump off this man myself, he said. 712 00:46:53,435 --> 00:46:57,395 Speaker 1: Freddy walked over and handed the lounging man an automatic. 713 00:46:58,115 --> 00:47:00,995 Speaker 1: At this moment, the door Freddy had been leaning against 714 00:47:01,235 --> 00:47:07,475 Speaker 1: burst open, and in rushed the man with the pipe, shouting, Dail, Dail, 715 00:47:08,235 --> 00:47:16,115 Speaker 1: Gail Gaylordsville. Gaylordsville bawled the brakeman. Sylvia was shaking me 716 00:47:16,155 --> 00:47:19,955 Speaker 1: by the arm. Quit mouaning, she said, everybody's looking at you. 717 00:47:20,915 --> 00:47:23,995 Speaker 1: I rubbed my forehead with a handkerchief. Hurry up, she said. 718 00:47:24,075 --> 00:47:28,395 Speaker 1: Sylvia said, they don't stop here long. I pulled the 719 00:47:28,435 --> 00:47:32,635 Speaker 1: bags down and we got off. Have you got the beans? 720 00:47:33,275 --> 00:47:37,875 Speaker 1: I asked Sylvia. Alice Connell was waiting for us on 721 00:47:37,915 --> 00:47:40,035 Speaker 1: the way to their home. In the car, Sylvia began 722 00:47:40,075 --> 00:47:42,275 Speaker 1: to tell Alice about the woman on one four to two. 723 00:47:42,995 --> 00:47:46,555 Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. He thought she was a spy, 724 00:47:47,235 --> 00:47:51,995 Speaker 1: said Sylvia. They both laughed. She'll probably got sick on 725 00:47:52,075 --> 00:47:54,715 Speaker 1: the train, said Alice. They would probably be arranging for 726 00:47:54,755 --> 00:47:57,115 Speaker 1: a doctor to meet her at the station. That's just 727 00:47:57,155 --> 00:48:02,275 Speaker 1: what I told him, said Sylvia. I lighted a cigarette. 728 00:48:03,315 --> 00:48:08,275 Speaker 1: The lady one four to two, I said firmly, was 729 00:48:08,355 --> 00:48:17,715 Speaker 1: definitely not sick. Oh Lord, said Sylvia. Here we go again, 730 00:48:19,995 --> 00:48:24,355 Speaker 1: the lady on one four to two by James Thurber. 731 00:48:37,515 --> 00:48:40,115 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here, nearly 732 00:48:40,155 --> 00:48:42,835 Speaker 1: as much as Stephen Miller did to himself and Trump. 733 00:48:43,755 --> 00:48:46,515 Speaker 1: It was a good week. Thank you for listening. We're 734 00:48:46,555 --> 00:48:49,435 Speaker 1: now back to five episodes a week, posting nightly just 735 00:48:49,555 --> 00:48:53,595 Speaker 1: after midnight Eastern and on YouTube. By now I find 736 00:48:53,595 --> 00:48:56,955 Speaker 1: out it's five am. Once again, there is now a 737 00:48:57,115 --> 00:49:01,955 Speaker 1: Monday Countdown. Ryan Ray and John Phillip Shonell, the musical directors, 738 00:49:01,955 --> 00:49:04,675 Speaker 1: have Countdown Arrange, produced and performed most of our music. 739 00:49:05,035 --> 00:49:08,115 Speaker 1: Mister Chanelle was the one handling the orchestration and the keyboards. 740 00:49:08,275 --> 00:49:10,555 Speaker 1: Mister Ray was on the guitars, bass and drums, and 741 00:49:10,595 --> 00:49:14,315 Speaker 1: it was produced by Tko Brothers. Our satirical and pithy 742 00:49:14,395 --> 00:49:17,235 Speaker 1: musical comments are by the best baseball stadium organist ever, 743 00:49:17,435 --> 00:49:20,355 Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. Of course, the sports music is the Old 744 00:49:20,355 --> 00:49:23,755 Speaker 1: wrooman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis 745 00:49:23,795 --> 00:49:27,555 Speaker 1: courtesy of ESPN Inc. Other music arranged and performed by 746 00:49:27,555 --> 00:49:30,195 Speaker 1: the group No Horns Allowed. My announcer today was my 747 00:49:30,235 --> 00:49:34,315 Speaker 1: friend Larry David. Everything else was pretty much my fault. 748 00:49:35,275 --> 00:49:38,115 Speaker 1: So that's countdown for this, the fifty fourth day until 749 00:49:38,155 --> 00:49:41,955 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty fourth presidential election, the one three hundred 750 00:49:41,955 --> 00:49:45,995 Speaker 1: and fortieth day since the convicted felon dementia J Trump's 751 00:49:46,115 --> 00:49:49,835 Speaker 1: first attempted coup against the democratically elected government of the 752 00:49:49,915 --> 00:49:53,995 Speaker 1: United States. Use the election, use the mental health system, 753 00:49:54,515 --> 00:49:57,915 Speaker 1: use presidential immunity if we have to to keep him 754 00:49:58,195 --> 00:50:06,875 Speaker 1: from doing it again while we still God. It's a 755 00:50:06,995 --> 00:50:11,075 Speaker 1: nail salon, it's a grocery store. It's a combination nail 756 00:50:11,115 --> 00:50:14,955 Speaker 1: salon im grocery store. The next scheduled Countdown is Monday 757 00:50:15,035 --> 00:50:18,355 Speaker 1: bulletins as the news requires till then. I'm keith Oldrimman. 758 00:50:18,475 --> 00:50:20,395 Speaker 1: I don't know why that's stuck in my head. I'm 759 00:50:20,475 --> 00:50:24,355 Speaker 1: keith Oldrimman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. 760 00:50:37,635 --> 00:50:41,595 Speaker 1: Countdown with keith Oldreman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 761 00:50:41,795 --> 00:50:46,675 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 762 00:50:46,955 --> 00:50:48,915 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.