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Make sure 47 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: you guys follow us there, and then, like I mentioned 48 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: off the top, keep dropping mail back questions in those 49 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: YouTube comments so we can hit them throughout the rest 50 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: of the season. All right, let's talk some basketball. Hey, 51 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: how's it going? Jason Love the show? Have been a 52 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: fan for a while. My question is about the Oklahoma 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: City Thunder. I hear a lot of people say that 54 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: they are a team that needs to find a way 55 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: to raise their offensive ceiling but can throw a hillacious 56 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: defensive punch. From a historical perspective, do you think this 57 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: year's Thunder is more comparable to the Four Pistons, the 58 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: eight Celtics, or the nine Lakers and how they are 59 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: made up at this current moment. So ironically, the team 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: that I actually think they remind me a lot of 61 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: is the old Thunder in the sense that it's more 62 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: of a two big type of look, and it's younger, 63 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: right Like, as we talk about the Celtics and the 64 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: Lakers from eight to nine, those are very veteran teams. 65 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: Not a lot of young talent on those teams, and 66 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: obviously the Thunder are more infused with youth. So in 67 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: terms of basketball build, there's similarities across the board. Defensively, yeah, 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: you're similar to the four Pistons, although I would say 69 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: that the four Pistons team didn't have nearly the shot 70 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: creation talent that Shake Gilds Alexander is the wait Celtics 71 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: remind me of this team in the two big look 72 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: or like you're four, and Kevin Garnett is this very 73 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: versatile offensive player and more of a play finisher at 74 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: the center spot. But it's kind of similar there. And 75 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: then Paul Pierce being like this guy in poor spacing 76 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: that was asked to make a lot of mid range 77 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: jump shots. The Lakers are the team that I'd probably 78 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: compare him to the most because of the two big 79 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: look versatle offensive four, but just that heavy reliance on 80 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: tough shot making from Kobe Bryant, which obviously was a 81 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: huge part of this Thunder team with Shay and I 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: talked about yesterday actually after the Cavs game, how Shae 83 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of Kobe Bryant in that stretch. Well, 84 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: you talked about about raising their offensive ceiling. Is a 85 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: really interesting point though, And I think that's going to 86 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: be the main question mark because I've talked a lot 87 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: about shooting when it comes to the Thunder. There's still 88 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: haven't checked after the Cavs game, But after the Celtics game, 89 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: they were down to twentieth in or I think they 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: sh well in that game, so up to twentieth I 91 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: should say in three point shooting on the season, and 92 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: like they've just continued to make shots as of late, 93 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Like these are a couple of big games. Like they 94 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: didn't lose to the Calves because of shot making. They 95 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: made shots. They lost to the Calves because they couldn't 96 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: get stops, which was ironic and just a testament to 97 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: the Cleveland defense because that's same or Cleveland offense, because 98 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: that same Thunder defense just put the Celtics in jail 99 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: in the second half of their game, right, But like, 100 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: there is a certain decision that the Thunder are gonna 101 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: have to make at the deadline this year, which is 102 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: are we good enough on offense to win the title? 103 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: And there's a tendency in a lot of these situations 104 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, we have time, and I'm not 105 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: gonna sit here and pretend like this is the last 106 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: shot for the Thunder because it's not. But as we've 107 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: seen so many times throughout NBA history, every time we 108 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: think there's a five to eight year window, it ends 109 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: up being shorter. It's usually not like the Warriors, they're 110 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: usually the they're the exception. It's usually a lot of turnover. 111 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: It's usually some guy wants a bigger role, this guy 112 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: gets squeezed by the payroll. We don't want to be 113 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: a second Apron team, so we let this guy go. 114 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: There's usually something that leads to a like kind of 115 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: a pullback in talent in these sorts of situations, right, 116 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: And so the question is do you feel urgency to 117 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: try to win this season? And that's where you kind 118 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: of have to find a sweet spot, like is it 119 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: worth Like let's take Cam Johnson for instance, I haven't 120 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: done the exact machinations of the deal. But let's say 121 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: it's Isaiah Joe and Aaron Wiggins, Like, it's a lot 122 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: to give up. I like Aaron Wiggins a lot. Aaron 123 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Wiggins is just a pro. I've been talking about him 124 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: a lot, Like I'm amazed at his ability to drive 125 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: closeouts and defend, knockdown catch and shoot threes. Isaiah Joe 126 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: has been one of the most reliable shooters of the 127 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: last couple of years. I understand that's a lot to 128 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: give up. But if you get a really high level 129 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: player like Cam Johnson, and you can sit it a 130 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: situation where it's like, I know who our small ball 131 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: groups are, because you know who the big groups are, 132 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: right Shay JW Dort Hartenstein Chet, Right. You know with 133 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: the small ball groups, it's going to be Jada Chet 134 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: and then somebody is that fifth guy, and there's flaws 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: with all of them. With Alex Crusoe, it's like a 136 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: really good defender, but man, he can really struggle to shoot. 137 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes you talk about kese On Wallace a little undersized, 138 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: also can struggle to shoot. Sometimes you talk about Isaiah 139 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: Joe really skinny and undersized, right, Like there's downsides with 140 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: any of your options that you go with a guy 141 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: like Cam Johnson. It's like pretty solid permitter, defender, big athlete, 142 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: and really good offensive player. So like you could see 143 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: that as an opportunity to raise the ceiling. And it's 144 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: just I'm not even saying which direction that I personally 145 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: would go. I'm generally a pusher, chips in kind of guy. 146 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: But like, I think it's completely defensible to just ride 147 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: it out with this roster if you want to. But 148 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: Cam Johnson would be the type of guy that the 149 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: Thunder could go for that would just raise their offensive 150 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: ceiling without having too much of an impact on their 151 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: defensive capabilities and legitimately increases your chances of winning a 152 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: championship this season at the expense of a little bit 153 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: of depth. That would be an example of a move 154 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: along those lines. But again, like, I think there's a 155 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: case to be made that they should just ride it 156 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: out as well, and I think that that's gonna be 157 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: a really tough decision when the time comes. I am 158 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: a Celtics fan, but I'm also a fan of the game, 159 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed yesterday's game between okay See and 160 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: the Calves. Congratulations to Atkinson, who was a very good coach. 161 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: But at the same time, in defense of J. Bickerstaff, 162 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: we shouldn't forget that Garland was far from being himself 163 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: last year and that mobile seems to have improved a 164 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: lot during the summer, or maybe is that Atkinson's effect. 165 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: Aside from that, who do you think has the best 166 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: chance to dethrow on the Celtics in the East? To me, 167 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: so and so far every team being healthy, Celtics included, 168 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: I really only fear this Calves team. So here's the 169 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: deal with the Atkinson JB. Bickerstaff stuff. We had Carter 170 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: Rodriguez from the Chase Down podcast on earlier this year, 171 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: and he talked a lot about how like a lot 172 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: of these concepts like were things that or that J. B. 173 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: Bickerstaff was hammering. J. B. Bickerstaff did preach playing with pace. 174 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: J B. Bickerstaff did ask Starius Garland to make more 175 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: to take more threes. There was a lot of thing 176 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: that he was preaching behind the scenes that just didn't resonate. 177 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: And that happens sometimes. That's why when you ask me, like, 178 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like Atkinson's not 179 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: doing an incredible job. He is doing an incredible job. 180 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: He seems like a shoe in for Coach of the 181 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Year this year. I'm all in on the Kenny Atkinson thing, 182 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: but if you asked me to list the number one 183 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: reason why the Cavs are better this year, I would 184 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: go with the improvement of Darius Garland and Evan Mobley 185 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: as individual players. Health is part of it. Natural player 186 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: development is part of it too. Atkinson has then pushed 187 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: that up into a team that's playing at over a 188 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: seventy win pace. But to me, it's the talent influx. 189 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: Jared Allen's a little better, Darius Garland's a lot better, 190 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: Evan Mobley's a lot better. That's allowed Donovan Mitchell to 191 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: be more picking his spots and they have this depth 192 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: of role player talent. Ty Jerome has really panned out, 193 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: a lot of Dean Wade's healthy and playing great. All 194 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: of that has come together and made them into this 195 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: more successful team. But like Atkinson is part of it. 196 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: And again, I think a lot of times when it 197 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: comes to these coaches, sometimes it's just like one voice 198 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: doesn't resonate and the next one does. You know, it's 199 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: no different than if like certain people told you something 200 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: that was critical, you might you know, laugh it off 201 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: or you know, roll your eyes. But if like a 202 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: different person told you the same thing, you might be 203 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: more willing to listen. Right, Like, It's just kind of 204 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: a new voice in the room, if that makes sense. 205 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: As far as your last question though, like who has 206 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: the best chance to throw in the Celtics in the East, 207 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: I agree the Calves are the only team that really 208 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: threaten in my opinion, Like I still watch Knicks games 209 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: and watch Jalen Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns get picked 210 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: apart in space. I just still worry about that with 211 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: any sort of Celtics matchup. The Bucks as good as 212 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: they are, same sort of thing in terms of entry 213 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: points where they can get attacked. Those are teams that 214 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: have a puncher's chance. I don't want to say they 215 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: can't win, but to me, the Calves are the only 216 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: team that I think is on the same tier as 217 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: Boston and a team Boston should be appropriately scared of. 218 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: I had a lot of people talking about titles in 219 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: my YouTube videos. All I'm going to say on this 220 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: is I don't make the titles, guys. The volume has 221 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: a marketing strategy that is company wide that they do 222 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: with this kind of thing. I just make my notes 223 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: that I make a show and then my team handles 224 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: the rest. So just something to keep in mind. Next one, 225 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: Hey Jason, longtime watcher, first time mailbagger. Been a fan 226 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: of the show since the volume days, and I just 227 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: want to say it's been a pleasure watching this channel 228 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: grow to what it is now. Thank you so much. 229 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: It's been cool to watch as well. For me. I'm 230 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: coming up on three years at the end of this month. 231 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm watching from Melbourne, Australia, so I get to tune 232 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: into your videos first thing in the morning. Keep up 233 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: the good work and analysis. Someone posted a stat though 234 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how accurate it is, that since twenty 235 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: twenty two and Jason Tatum's usage rate is above thirty 236 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: three percent, the Celtics have a record of forty nine 237 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: and three. Given their current struggles, albeit coming off of 238 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: a championship in January, basketball, should the Celtics try to 239 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: change their philosophy around the way they play. Should the 240 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: Celtics play a little bit more heliocentric with Tatum making 241 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: all the decisions, Maybe it might make them win more 242 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: games during the regular season or is this just a 243 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: mid season lowl for the defending champs and we should 244 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: expect to turn around come March in April. It's just 245 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: frustrating as a Celtics fans know what they're capable of, 246 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: but not play up to their standard this year as 247 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: opposed to last. Keen to know what you're thought. I'm 248 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: exactly there in terms of the mid season lowl. The 249 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: Calves and Thunder are really good, but they are playing 250 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: this season with a ton of urgency on a night 251 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: and night out basis because they're both kind of on 252 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: the verge of something special, right like the Thunder a 253 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: just barely below a seventy game pace, the Calves are 254 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: over a seventy win pace. Like it's very possible for 255 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: both of those teams that if they take some losses 256 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: and they get off of that pace, that they might 257 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: tone things back a little bit and get a little 258 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: bit conservative down the stretch of the season. But most importantly, 259 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: they neither of those teams have ever played beyond the 260 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: second round, So with the Thunder not having that experience, 261 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: with the Calves not having that experience, they don't even 262 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: like really grasp or understand yet the fact that there's 263 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: two months of playoff basketball at the end of this 264 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: thing if you want to get to the Promised Land. 265 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: The Celtics are aware of that. The Celtics know they're 266 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: the real fight is on the horizon. The Celtics know 267 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: that it doesn't really matter what they accomplish during the 268 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: regular season if they can't win the games in May 269 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: and June. So like they're dealing with that lull, and 270 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: that's led to a little bit of a gap in 271 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: the standings. But I've still I still view the Celtics 272 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: a hair above the both of those teams as far 273 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: as the Jayson Tatum usage right stuff. It's always tricky 274 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: when you start talking about record and talking about game 275 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: to game stuff, because one of the things that I 276 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: think is really fascinating, and you guys as fans will notice, 277 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: especially you guys, you fans that watch the same team 278 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: every night, every basketball game is different. You know, how 279 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: you watch your game. You watch a game, you're like, oh, 280 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: this is the Derek White game, like he's got it going. 281 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: Oh this is the Jason Tatum game. Oh Al Horford 282 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: hit five threes this game. Oh this is a porzingis game. 283 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Like basketball games, you start with the plan and then 284 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: things start to happen in the game just starts to 285 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: go in all these different directions based on how things 286 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: are going, and every game looks different, and there's something 287 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: to be said about the teams that have some more 288 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: consistency there. But like in these in a specifically in 289 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: an advantage creation like mismatch hunting, you know, uh, killer 290 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Way offense, it just depends on the night. So yeah, 291 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: on the Knights and on the Knights where Jason Tatum 292 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: is hooping his ass off and he's grabbing more of 293 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: the reins like he's one of the best players in 294 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: the world. So when he's at his best, it's gonna 295 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: be really hard to beat the Celtics. And I'm not 296 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: surprised that that manifest in a good record. But what 297 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: makes the Celtics dominant is they don't need Jason Tatum 298 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: to be super duper star every single night. They need 299 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: him to be hyperversaal defensive player and advantage creator, which 300 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: sometimes manifests in him becoming more heliocentric and taking the 301 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: reins of the offense to a greater extent. But I 302 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: think that has been What has led to the success 303 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: for the Celtics back in twenty two is too much 304 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: Tatum and Brown. Now it's there's a lot more of 305 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: the ball popping around. Everyone's involved. I wouldn't overreact to 306 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: this role. I think they're gonna be fine. Most importantly, 307 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: guys like there's a the Calves and Thunder optimism is 308 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: a runaway freight train right now. It's it's literally a 309 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: runaway freight trade. Everyone's on this bandwagon. That should appeal 310 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: to the Boston's pride a little bit. That should help 311 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: them to get off their ass and to lock back 312 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: in and play some better basketball down the stretch of 313 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: the season. Which season which I expect them to do? 314 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Next question, I personally don't think that the Nuggets shouldrade 315 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior. I think he's a good compliment to 316 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: Jokich and has been playing very well and more consistently lately. 317 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Where's all of the buzz to trade him coming from? 318 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: And do you think Denver is actually considering it. Mpj's 319 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: younger than met Jimmy Butler and Zach Lavine and offers 320 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: better rebounding and height than both of them. If they 321 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: made one of these trades, would you lower the Nuggets 322 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: ceiling and decrease their odds to win a championship this year? 323 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: I definitely think it would hurt them, especially in the 324 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: long run due to the age differences. So as far 325 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: as the trades go, the big thing for me is 326 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: it's just super high risk. Like you bring in a 327 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: guy like Jimmy Butler. He's better than Michael Porter Junior. 328 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: But Jimmy Butler is a very different player than Michael 329 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Porter Junior, and Michael Porter Junior's off ball scoring is 330 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: so immensely valuable to this Denver Nuggets team. But Jimmy 331 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: Butler does a ton a Jimmy, Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown 332 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: two three four is a much better defensive two three 333 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: four than Christian Brown, Michael Porter Junior, Aaron Gordon. It's 334 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: an influx of defensive talent in the half court. You 335 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: gain more versatility. You still have the Murray Jokics two 336 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: man game, but now you have Jimmy Butler who can 337 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: either run two man game and is just a much 338 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: better version of Jamal Murray in terms of matchup hunting 339 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: in ISO situations. So there's upside. My thing is the 340 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: upside is relative to what they could fix in house 341 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: with Michael Porter Junior. Right, same thing goes with Zach Levine. 342 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: There's upside, right, Zach Colvine is just an awesome offensive player, 343 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: really good movement shooter, a guy that brings some of 344 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: that off ball scoring that Michael Porter Junior does, but 345 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: also brings some on ball scoring. Could be a two 346 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: man game partner with Jokis that's pretty effective. But he's 347 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's the type of off ball defender 348 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: and a rebounder that Michael Porter Junior is either. So 349 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: there's risk there, right, I look at it from this perspective, 350 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: do I think? I think the reason why a lot 351 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: of these teams are a lot of these fans are 352 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: looking at potentially making a trade for Denver is because 353 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: they're they're worried. They're looking around, and they're like, we 354 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: look like a Tier two team, which they are. For 355 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: the record, Denver's a Tier two team. They're not on 356 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: that top tier with Cleveland, Boston and Oklahoma City, and 357 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: so you feel like you're not there. However, take this 358 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: Denver team out of the equation and let's look at 359 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: it in a vacuum. Jokic best player in the world. 360 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: If Jamal Murray can get back to eighty five ninety 361 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: percent of what he's like, and he has been playing 362 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: better as of late. Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter, Junior, Christian 363 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: Brown a fit that I actually like those five guys. 364 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: I still think they're one of the scariest five man 365 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: lineups in the league, especially with their ability to get 366 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: better over the course of the season by getting back 367 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: to their previous peaks as players. So you have to 368 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: ask yourself what gives the Nuggets the best chance to 369 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: win the title. Everyone getting back to form and riding 370 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: the continuity and Jokich's greatness to win in the playoffs, 371 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: or a gamble. And there's been a lot of examples 372 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: in NBA history, like the Russell Westbrook trade for the Lakers, 373 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: where it's like you take that gamble thinking you're gonna 374 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: raise your ceiling and instead the bottom gets pulled out 375 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: from you and now you're digging out of it for years. 376 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: I think for this Nuggets team, between those two options, 377 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: their best bet to win the championship is to bet 378 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: on continuity, to bet on that five man group. That's 379 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: just what I would do. That doesn't mean you don't 380 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: explore options. It doesn't mean you don't look out there 381 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: to see if something can't be done. I just tend 382 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: to lean towards that being the best option I would 383 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: look for, Like, if you were to make some type 384 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: of deal, I would try to do something with like 385 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: Zeke Nagy's contract, something with the bench group to try 386 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: to bring in talent by attaching draft compensation, just to 387 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: increase your depth. Maybe give you a shooting option at 388 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: the two over Christian Brown and in case that he 389 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: becomes an offensive issue in the playoff series. But like, 390 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like I think that 391 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: team has a lot to bet on when it comes 392 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: to continuity. Hey, Jason, love the show. I'm a Warriors fan, 393 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about what trades we should make to 394 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: become a real championship contender. I don't really understand the 395 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: reason to trade for Vucevich or some mid center, because 396 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: our best lineup in the playoffs will be Raymond at 397 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: the five. I like cam Johnson. If the trade doesn't 398 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: include Wiggins Jonathan Kaminga, we probably won't get Lebron or KD. 399 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: So I thought about the trade that would send Camena 400 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: and other role players with draft capital to New Orleans 401 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: for Zion. I think the Warriors as a winning environment 402 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: would help Zion get through his struggles off the court 403 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: and as a basketball fit. He would just bring some 404 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: downhill dominance that would open up everything for everyone on 405 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: the offense. On defense, he just has to do his job, 406 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: and I think the defense will be fine. The trade 407 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: is high risk, high reward, but if everything goes right, 408 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: I think it puts us in a much better spot 409 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: right now and for the future. And I think Zion 410 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: would make us better than someone like Jimmy or Brandon Ingram. 411 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: So what do you think about this idea? Is it 412 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: stupid or is there any trade that you would have 413 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: in mind for Golden State? And do you think a 414 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: healthy starting five of Steph Dennis cam if we can 415 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: pull that off to Wiggins, Zion and Draymond and the 416 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: bench with like three reliable role players can bring us 417 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: another shit. Sorry for such a long question, but I 418 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: need to hear your opinion. Have a good one. Again, 419 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: this is really high risk, So like with me, for 420 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 1: the Warriors, I keep saying this, but like they're an 421 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: up and down team that's gonna stay afloat in the 422 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: regular season. So I don't think they need to do 423 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: anything until you get to early February. When you get 424 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: to early February, it's about how desperate you are and 425 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: what you're planning on doing, right. I tend to agree 426 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: with you. A Cam Johnson deal that doesn't include Jonathan 427 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: Kaminga is my favorite deal. I think Cam Johnson is 428 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: a shoe in fit within the Warriors offense. If you 429 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: can pull that off, that's the direction to go. I 430 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: think that that has real ceiling raising potential with very 431 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: little in the way of risk. Right, but there's a 432 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: lot of people that could benefit from Cam Johnson. You 433 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: might not win that bidding war. You might find yourself 434 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: up against it in February and have to really go 435 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: all in. When I look at the Zion fit, I 436 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: saw this going around. Kevin O'Connor suggested it on his show. 437 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: I think, if I remember, there's real upside. Zion when 438 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: he's healthy is one of the hardest players in the 439 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: lead to contain in terms of his dribble penetration. There's 440 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: a lot to get excited about in terms of a 441 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: Zion STEPH two man game. There's some complications the Draymon 442 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: Zion fit in particular on both ends of the floor, 443 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: meaning when Zion's looking to drive, he loves these slot drives. 444 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: Or you get him on like the right wing, you 445 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: create a gap where you have Steph spacing on the 446 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: left wing above the break two corner spacers. Draymon's probably 447 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: in the dunker spot, and Zion loves to just get 448 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: to the high hesitation dribble with his left hand and 449 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: then just try to get a left hand to drive 450 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: towards the middle, and he's just gonna run into Draymon's 451 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: man and help a lot of the in those situations. 452 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: In in Steph Zion two man game, Draymon's man will 453 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: be available and help a lot of the time. So 454 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: there's some clunkiness there, but it's an undeniable influx of 455 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: real offensive talent on the defensive end of the floor. 456 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't mean the fit in Draymon and Zion in 457 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: terms of Draymond. I mean Draymond would have to find 458 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: a way to help Zion on the floor as a 459 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: coach and communicator to make sure that he could be 460 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: a viable off ball defensive threat. Point is really high risk. 461 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: So you wait till February and maybe that ends up 462 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: being your best option. But you got to look at 463 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: how things look when you get to early February, and 464 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: we will we will talk about that when we get closer. 465 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: But like there's a lot of risk with Zion, so 466 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: you would just want to wait to see how things 467 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: look in terms of the information when you get into 468 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: that early February stretch. I would be lying to you 469 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: if I didn't say I wanted to see what that 470 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: looks like though, three more quick ones. As a depressed 471 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: Warriors fan, what do you think would be a fun 472 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: be team to watch? I'm looking for a team that 473 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: has a unique and exciting star like Steph, but is 474 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: also more winning. So both teams I'm watching aren't losing frequently. 475 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the content I see the Caaz dude, 476 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: I've really really enjoyed watching them this season. Darius Garland 477 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: in particular, as a player you guys will really enjoy watching. 478 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: He reminds me of Steph in his ability to get 479 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: wherever he wants on the floor, although Steph does it 480 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: by weaponizing his shooting with elite ball handling. Darius Garland 481 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: has like otherworldly quickness and it's really fun to watch 482 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: him pick defenses apart Evan Mobley's a lot of fun 483 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: to watch as well. They play hard every single night. 484 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: They're super well coached. Their off ball player movement and 485 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: connectivity on offense is top tier. They're an incredibly fun 486 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: team to watch. Check out the Cleveland Cavaliers if you 487 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: haven't done so yet. Next question mail back question Keon 488 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: Ellis for the Lakers? Perfect? Yeah, Keon Ellis would is 489 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: the ideal type of player I'd want next to Austin Reeves. 490 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: But I don't think the Sacramento Kings are ever going 491 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: to do a deal with the Los Angeles Lakers. They're 492 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: just a team that I think would They know that 493 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: their fan base because Kings fans love Keon Ellis. If 494 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: you trade Keon Ellis to the Lakers, a team that 495 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: all Kings fans hate, you will get your fan base 496 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: to revolt on you. You'd have to have a pretty 497 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: incredible return on that deal. Last question, did you catch 498 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: the Ryan Roscillo podcast about three years ago and Colin 499 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Cowherd was the guest. Early in the show, Colin basically 500 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: said you were Risillo, as in working harder than anyone 501 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: everyone else in the business. Even mentioned that he told 502 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: you to take weekends off and wanted you to spend 503 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: some time with your wife. Also said knowing that everything 504 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: also said knowing everything isn't what makes an a plus 505 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: sports talk show host, but things like timing, humor, and 506 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: some extra icing on the cake. I've noticed that I 507 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: used to listen to every podcast episode you made in 508 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: you first years of the volume, but haven't been able 509 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: to do as much this year with the expanded coverage. 510 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: So I'm wondering how have you taken Collin's comments to 511 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: Ryan really appreciate the show and learning more about the 512 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: teams I'm not familiar with. Keep up the great work 513 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: and be sure to take some time off. So ironically, 514 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: I was working out at the gym. My wife and 515 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: I have a membership at this place called F forty five. 516 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: It's my wife did it for years before I did it, 517 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: and then I got kind of roped into trying it, 518 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: and then I immediately fell in love with it because 519 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: it's just an awesome basketball workout. A lot of conditioning 520 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: related like strength, which is just awesome for basketball. Lot 521 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: of like different types of leg strength exercises from different angles, 522 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: different weight distributions, and a lot of these overtow stuff, 523 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: a lot of single leg stuff, a lot of stuff 524 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: that's just really good for basketball, and it's just been 525 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: really good for me. I'm feeling great physically as a 526 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: result of it. But I was working out an F 527 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: forty five and this one of the guys in there 528 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: that works out just ran up on me and was like, hey, 529 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: I was listening to the Rasillo podcast the other day 530 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: and they shouted you out, you need to check it out. 531 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: And I listened to that bit. And it's kind of 532 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: funny because, to make a long story short, like this 533 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: was a dream of mine to work in this business. 534 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: I like worked two jobs for a while to try 535 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: to make it happen. And when I got my opportunity, 536 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: I became like paranoid or terrified of losing my opportunity, 537 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: losing my footing in the business, so to speak. And 538 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: so I worked with a layer of desperation, especially in 539 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: the first two years, to where I would work on vacation. 540 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: I was taking travel equipment with me. I was doing 541 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: six episodes a week during the regular season, fourteen episodes 542 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: a week during the postseason. I was just killing myself 543 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: and shout out to my wife and my friends and 544 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: stuff and family at home for being supportive of that, 545 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: but I was. It was stupid. I shouldn't have done that, 546 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: but I did because I just really really wanted to 547 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: make this work. And Colin Logan, our head of content 548 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: at the volume, those guys were all behind the scenes 549 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: so supportive of me taking more time off and more importantly, 550 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: like when I'm taking time off not working, like I 551 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: remember recording multiple videos out of my cruise ship room 552 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: on an Alaskan cruise in the summer of a couple 553 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: of years ago. You have any idea how stupid that is. 554 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: That's so dumb, Like why was I doing that? It 555 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: was the summer, Like it's just not necessary, but like 556 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: it was just kind of the way that I was 557 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: doing it. And this year I did so much better. 558 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: I went on my ski trips, didn't work, Like did 559 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: little basic things like pre recording content so that I 560 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: could take the occasional three day weekend here or there 561 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: or over the summer. When we got into that like 562 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: August September stretch, you guys saw I only did new 563 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: episodes on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. There's just no reason 564 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: to kill myself during that time. Of the year when 565 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: there wasn't anything to talk about really right, And so 566 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: I've been better at it. I think I could probably 567 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: still get better. My wife is still talking to me 568 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: about trying to cut back. I struggle with that. I 569 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: feel like I've already kind of cut back to the 570 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: point where I'm comfortable. But we'll see how it evolves 571 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: over the years. It's just I know what it's like 572 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: being a fan of a show. I'm still a fan 573 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: of some shows and wanting to have new content, and 574 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: I just I know that that matters to you guys. 575 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: And I always feel this like anxiety about covering teams 576 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: like I will you know, obviously I hit the Lakers 577 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: and Warrior, Celtics, those teams a lot. But then there's 578 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: like this group of you know, fifteen other teams that 579 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: are relevant in the league that I'm always rotating through, 580 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: and I always just feel this, like, God, I got 581 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 1: to hit this team, Like I really need to hit 582 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: this team. Like there's some teams, Like there's some teams 583 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: that I feel that anxiety now, like I need to 584 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: find time to hit this team. I need to feel 585 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: time to hit that team, and like like then I'll 586 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: look back at my feed and I'll be like, I've 587 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: hit on twenty five teams in the last three weeks, 588 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: Like why am I you know, why am I so 589 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: concerned about this? But it's just like a lot of times, 590 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: it just is that that anxiety that kind of leads 591 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: me to just do that extra episode, force that extra 592 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: thing that I probably shouldn't but I'm getting I'm getting 593 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: better at it as time goes on, and I think 594 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: the big thing that I just want to say, you know, 595 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: since we're at the end here, like, uh, you know, 596 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: it's been three years as of February first, and this 597 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: has become such a cool thing to watch grow. And 598 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: I'm just incredibly thankful for you guys, because I just 599 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have this opportunity. I wouldn't have the setup that 600 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: I have right now if it wasn't for you guys 601 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: and supporting me and supporting the show. I just I 602 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: am just incredibly thankful for you guys, and I could 603 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: never express it enough. But that's all I have for 604 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: today and for this weekend is always I sincerely appreciate 605 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: you guys. I hope you guys enjoy the weekend, enjoy 606 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: some relaxation. We will be back on Monday with our 607 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: usual routine power rankings in the whole bit. I'll see 608 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: you guys then the volume. What's up guys. As always, 609 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for listening to and supporting hoops tonight. 610 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: It would actually be really helpful for us if you 611 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: guys would take a second and leave a rating and 612 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: a review. As always, I appreciate you guys supporting us, 613 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: but if you could take a minute to do that, 614 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: I'd really appreciate it.