1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: partnership with Higheartradiot. 3 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Katie, I just set myself up for fucking failure to 4 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: why why. 5 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: Do you have a million things going on? 6 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm just trying to like wear a beanie with headphones. 7 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: We've done this before, hear mo. 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Remember I've done it. 9 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like, yo, your ears are gonna get 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: so funky and your head gets so sweaty. 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna get hot. But it's good that it's freezing outside. 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: So that's my hair is disgusting. Can I show you? 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: I don't think I had this on scan, but I 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: need to show you. 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: That's awful. Put your hat back on. 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: You see this read that's a whole gray, a whole 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: gray streak. 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: Lean into that ship, lean into it. 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: That is just fucking old age right there. 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: That sucks when women you get a little bit of 21 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: great and you have to keep dying the roots right 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: and it grows out, and like how how quick does 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: that grow out? Like in two weeks? 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: That's so fast. 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: And also like if you're blonde, it sort of like 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: hides better. But if you're yeah, gray, you right now. 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: But I'm not. I'm gray on my beard like here, 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: but on my head, I'm not gray at all, which 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: is weird. Yeah, like just here I'm gray. That's it. 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: The guy's hair on Scandal was such a thing, like 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: you guys are such fucks, Like I can't deal. 32 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: You had your guy? Did they pay for that? 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: No? Well I had my I would have to go 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: and get my own aircut because they didn't know how 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: to fade on set, remember, and that was a whole deal. 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: And they they weren't allowed to bring a barber on 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: set because there's hardly any barbers that are in the Union. 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: So it's all these you know, older people and younger 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: people too, but fading is a whole like specific skill. 40 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 3: Enough art person too, because he brought he brought. 41 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: His person, but that person was in the Union and 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: they're few and far between. But Columbus snagged one and 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: it was like a friend of his, I think, So 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: that's why he was able to bring one on set. 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: But you know, they wouldn't, they wouldn't. They wouldn't bring 46 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: one in for me. So I would have to go 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: outside every three days and get my hair, my own 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: air go every three. 49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: Days days, ten months of the year for the seven seasons. 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, or they would come to set, but they weren't 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: allowed to cut in the hair makeup trailer. Once in 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: a while he would come and cut me in my trailer, 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: right because you know, legally they weren't allowed to be 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: in the makeup trailer. Yeah. Good, that was some crazy shit. 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: That is so And it was that you used the 56 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: same guy all seven years, or did you? 57 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two brothers. I still use them. They still 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: cut my hair. 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: My question to you is, during the pandemic, what did you. 60 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: Do Mikey cut my hair? Mikey would fade it and 61 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: it was it was it was awful, But I didn't 62 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: care because it was just me and him at home 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: and I just wanted the feeling of a fresh haircut. 64 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: And did he And when you do a fade, is 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: it's the buzzer. 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: It's the buzzer. Yeah, you just go to the skin 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: and you go up. You know. Oh, but Mikey would 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: do it during the pandemic. Yeah, he would do it. 69 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: Did you hear his No, No, he didn't care. He 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: was just like, I don't give man. Yeah, he just 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: let that shit grow out. 72 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Has there ever been a period in your life where 73 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: you have had a long hair. 74 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah when when I was when I 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: was young, when I did Half Baked, I had long hair. 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: When I did Party it was like to your cheeks. 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but never Yeah, I've not shoulder length or 78 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: like no, like two hundred cigarettes. I don't know if 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: you've ever in that movie I have, I have sort 80 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: of it goes down to like it's like long long, 81 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: like would you ever do that in one length? Only? 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: If I had to for a role. But I really 83 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: don't like it. It's too much fucking work, right, It's 84 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: so much, and then it goes through that ugly phase, 85 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: like you know, it looks cute when it's short, and 86 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: then it goes to that nasty why anything, and you've 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: got to go through life in that ugly phase. I 88 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: don't like that. 89 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 3: Life's too short, too short to be ugly all the time. 90 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: And I'm too short to be ugly. 91 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: Germo, you are shorter, and I love that about am 92 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 4: I two? 93 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: I love being short? Yeah? 94 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 3: What do you love about it? 95 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 96 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 3: I just like it's you're always I are you? What 97 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: are you? 98 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: I'm five to seven okay, yeah, maybe five six, but 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: I think I'm five to seven. 100 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: Guys, this episode is in where it ends. 101 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: I think I say that every time. 102 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: This is ten guest stars. Do you want to do 103 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: the first five and I'll do the last five? 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: Yes, we are talking about episode two seven, called Defiance. 105 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: It aired on November twenty ninth, twenty twelve. It was 106 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: written by Peter Noah. 107 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: And directed by Tom Verica. 108 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: What we Gotta Have Him on? I Love Tom Okay. 109 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: Guest stars of the episode where Brian Lesher is Tom 110 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: Rieso Rios as reported number three, Erica Schaefer is news anchor, 111 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: William Stone Mahoney is Defiance voting. 112 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: Clerk, Chelsea Ross's Harold Pierce. 113 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: Jason London is Skip Pierce, Kate lang Johnson is Jenna 114 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: new Hall, Patty McCormack as and Pierce. If you know 115 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: you know Patty McCormack, y'all, we're going to talk about her. 116 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Grainger Hines as Senator Schuman, Susan Merson as Judge Thompson. 117 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: And this is what happened to the episode. 118 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: It's guys, this ending of banana, This banana's in the 119 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 2: ending of this episode is the craziest shit I've ever seen. 120 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: It was so good. Okay. 121 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: Harrison leads the team in managing a billionaire businessman who 122 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: seems to have lost his sanity, while Olivia is helping 123 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: Senator Edison Davis phil the Senate Majority leader seat after 124 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: she just helped the former Senate Majority Leader, Senator Schumann 125 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 2: publicly resign. 126 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: That's a lot of senators. Meanwhile, the White House celebrates 127 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: the President's fiftieth birthday and James continues to investigate Cytron 128 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: and discovers something that could change the fate of the country. 129 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 3: Dun dundong, y'all. 130 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: Wait, I don't know. Wait, let's get into this right now. 131 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: Who the fuck is Patty. 132 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: McCormack, Katie Katie Cake? 133 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 3: Help me. 134 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: I don't know about movies. I don't know about television. 135 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 2: Someone take away my fucking seat. 136 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: Let me go to my not Ooh, y'all, y'all, Patty 137 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: McCormack is that wait? I was on set. I remember 138 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: the rumblings from the crew and I think from Tom 139 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: Verica as well, saying pat seed bat seed. Patty McCormack 140 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: is the little girl in the movie from the ninth 141 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: Team six from the fifties. I think it's nineteen fifty 142 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: to fifty six called the bad Seed. She played the 143 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: bad Seed. She was that little girl with the long 144 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: braided pigtails, and she was like the little devil who 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: was like, I didn't kill her. I'm a good girl. 146 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: She is the fucking bad seed. 147 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: Oh my god, how old was she when she did that? 148 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: She I want to say she was like seven or eight, 149 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: but she was like the lead like and she was 150 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: mesmerizing and frightening, and she was so so good and 151 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: so dramatic. She would cry, I didn't kill her because 152 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: her friend like gets murdered or dies, and you know, 153 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: people think that it was her that killed her, and 154 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: it was and uh. 155 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: She nominated for like awards for this. 156 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a good question. I should have 157 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: fucked it. 158 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: More like the movie that was just like culturally huge, 159 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: like everyone's I think. 160 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: That's what it was. Yeah, And then she was also 161 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: in the film from the nineteen sixties, The Adventures of 162 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Huckleberry Finn, the fucking movie The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Yes, look, 163 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: she was like the lead woman in it. 164 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: Y'all know, you all gave us the gladiators out there, 165 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: gave us our ship name Huckleberry Quinn. 166 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: Yes, y wow, well I thought she was out. I mean, 167 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: all of our guest stars are, but she was so 168 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: good in this episode. And I love Jason London. 169 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Oh, Jason remember all. 170 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 3: Of the I mean, isn't he a brother of Jeremy London. 171 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Jeremy London is his brother? Yeah? Tell me, yeah, 172 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: Jason London. I mean, listen Jason London. First, y'all know 173 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: I love horror movies. He was in Carrie to the Rage. 174 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: He played Jesse Ryan, one of the guys that like 175 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: fucks around with Harry and then he's a dick. And 176 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: he was also in two Wong Food Thanks for everything, 177 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: Julie Newmark. He's Bobby Ray. Bobby Ray. Bobby do declare 178 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Bobby Ray. Yes, he's Bobby Ray. Do declare. He was 179 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: gazed and confused. He was in a fucking Aerosmith video 180 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: called Amazing, which. 181 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: Is and he was the lead of that Aerosmith video 182 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: that was so iconic. 183 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, oh. 184 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: My god, I remember that. 185 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: And Jeremy London and Jason London are both actors. 186 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: No, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 187 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 3: Are they twins? 188 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: They are identical twins. As far as far as I 189 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: know they're identical twins because I can't tell. I looked 190 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: them up on the Internet and I can't tell them 191 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: apart at all. But one last adjacent London credit was 192 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: Wasabi Tuna, which is a movie. It's the movie that 193 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: brought me out to LA A movie called Wasabi Tuna 194 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: with Anna, Nicole Smith, Alana Uba, Leslie Jordan, all these 195 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: all these people. But the movie was the biggest piece 196 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: of crap in the world. Oh, Katie and Lee Friedlander 197 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: directed with That's that's why I know Lea. 198 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: Are you? 199 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: Yes? 200 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: You were you in the movies? Is that why you 201 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: came out to l A. 202 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: I was in the movie. I got the It's one 203 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: of the first movies. I just got a straight up 204 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: offer and they flew me out to La to to 205 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: film with Sabby Tuna. And then after the film, I 206 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: stayed and I auditioned for Weeds, and then I booked Weeds, 207 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: and then I just kept staying and that's what kept 208 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: me in La. But with Sabby Tuna brought me out 209 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: here and like I said, Annachole Smith was in it. 210 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: Well, they're amazing in this whole episode and it's such 211 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: a lovely I mean, it's such a great episode because 212 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 2: we started it really is that Edison Davis, Senator Pudding Pop. 213 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,239 Speaker 1: In a relationship. 214 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: They're like buzzing around Olivia Pope's apartment, getting dressed and 215 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: like talking as if they would, but she's not letting 216 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: on at all that she's ever had. He's like, here's 217 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: all the chicks I dated since we've been since we've 218 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: been together, and she's like, I'm not saying anything, but 219 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: the only thing I am going to tell you is 220 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: that when the Senator majority leader gets into some big 221 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 2: trouble and there's a problem publicly today, you do a 222 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: vote of support publicly and we are going to sort 223 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: this out. And it's such a key into their relationship 224 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: and it's a great scene and they're so cute. 225 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: They're so cute. They're so cute. 226 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: Whole time. Was like, I don't think he looks like Coxtable. 227 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: I think he does, y'all. Just to give you a 228 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: quick like a recap in the in the last podcast, 229 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: if y'all listen, we talked about we were talking about 230 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: some maybe it was too Yeah, you're right, it was. 231 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: It was two of five where we talked about it. 232 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: But someone tweeted saying calling him Senator Putney pop right 233 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: because he resembles Bill Cosby, so that's why we call 234 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: them senator ya. My notes for that first scene, it 235 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: was a lovely scene, but I said, oive, this that 236 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: is in character is still around. Scram beat it well 237 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: that those were gone as soon. 238 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: If I remember correctly. 239 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: I think he is. Yeah, he's, I mean again, he's 240 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: he's he's so good. He the actor is what. 241 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: The fuck I keep forgetting his fine Lewis God's tired. 242 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: We are tired, and I love normals. 243 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: We will be back with more after the break. I 244 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 2: thought they did such a great job. David Rosen and 245 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: James meet on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial to 246 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: exchange information about Defiance, and the whole time I'm looking 247 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: at it, I'm like, motherfucker, this fucking Lincoln Memorial looks 248 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: so fucking good. 249 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, and I wrote that shit 250 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: in my notes. I said, our green screen team are 251 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: they're like the best, like not once, because there's some movies, 252 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: even in Titanic, I could be like, oh, that's a 253 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: green screen, you know what I mean? And certain. 254 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: Obviously Seal had a big budget, which I think I 255 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: think our budget was like two million in episode. To 256 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: be honest, I think it was too Yeah, yeah, yeah, 257 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it should which goes pretty quickly when 258 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: you're making a huge show like Scandal. We have a 259 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: lot of characters, we have a lot of costumes, we 260 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: have a lot of locations, we have a lot a lot, 261 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: a lot of things going on. But I don't think 262 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: Scandal was like at Titanic level by any means. And 263 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: I think our ship looked fucking dope. Our green screens 264 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: so good, that Lincoln Memorial looks so good. And then 265 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: it goes in so we get the case of the week, 266 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: which is this rich ass dude, Harold Pierce, played by uh, 267 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: his name is Chelsea Ross. 268 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: That's so interesting. 269 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: Chelsea's Chelsea spelled c h E L c I E. 270 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 3: You're welcome. 271 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: He's this rich dude who seems to be having this 272 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: total life crisis where he's divorced his old bag of 273 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: a wife and he's fucking this blonde ass play way 274 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: bunny and he lives in this mansion and he's driving 275 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: a motorcycle inside and he's naked and he's in his pajab. 276 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: He's like he just seems to have lost his mind 277 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: and he's not going to pass on the business to 278 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 2: his son. There's all this shit. Yeah, and the best 279 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: scene is Harrison. Harrison is running lead on this because 280 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: Olivia is stuck at the White House dealing with this 281 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: senator who publicly messed up and whatever, and she's like, Harrison, 282 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: you got this, you can run lead on this. And Harrison, 283 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: we're all looking to him, like all of us misfits. 284 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: And he's like, let's hop to I'm lead on this. 285 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: And we make fun of him and he says, fine, 286 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: team instead of like let's go people, we're giving him 287 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: a hard time. 288 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: It's so key, yeah, yeah, and Olivia is like, you 289 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: got this, you can handle this, you can handle in coming. 290 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: And he's so great. He's so great in this episode. Also, 291 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: Chelsea Ross real quick. Chelsea Ross was in a horror 292 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: film called Drag Me to Hell, which is an amazing 293 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: horror film. He was also, yeah, it's so good. 294 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: What are bad horror films? 295 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: There's some, there's there's some, there's some bad ones. There's Bear. 296 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Bear was pretty bad. No, Bear was fun to watch. 297 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: He was also he was also in Basic Instinct. We 298 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: all know Basic instinct. Yeah, and he was in the 299 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: movie Rudy. I don't know if you guys have seen Rudy. 300 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: I love Rudy so much. 301 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: What did you play Rudy? 302 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he played a guy named Dan Devine. I lied, Actually, 303 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: I just lied on the podcast Katie. I've never seen Rudy. 304 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: I just feel like everybody really loves that movie, and 305 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: every time I talk about it or people mention it, 306 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, I love that movie and I've never fucking 307 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: seen it. I'm so sorry, you guys. I literally just 308 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: straight up lied on the podcast. 309 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: You want so many movies. You want so many movies. 310 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: You watched so many. 311 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: Movies twice, You've watched I Love Lucy probably one million times, 312 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: you know, every single and you can't find time to 313 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: watch to watch Rudy. 314 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: God damn it. And I love what's his name from 315 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: the Goonies? What the fuck is his name? Oh? 316 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: My god, he's and he's in. 317 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: Patty Hurst's Son. He's fucking He's in Lord of the 318 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: fucking a. 319 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: He's such a good actor. 320 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: Sean. 321 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: God, he's adorable. 322 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: Then what happens, Oh, okay, so we're working the case. 323 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: Fitz sees Olivia on TV standing behind the senator that's 324 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: been being bad and he's like he can see just 325 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: like one half of Olivia Pope's face and he's so 326 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: fucking transfixed. 327 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: Yo. But Tony in that scene when he's watching her, 328 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: his acting is really really good. It's really powerful. 329 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: And it's really good. 330 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: He has two moments in this this episode that where 331 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: his acting is like quiet and behind the eyes and 332 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: so special. 333 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: It's that looking at her eyeball, and then the other 334 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: moment through. 335 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: Yes, yes this really photos. I thought the same thing. 336 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: He gets these surveillance photos of Edison and live like together, 337 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: and obviously they're very happy, and he's just like shuffling 338 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: the photos and getting more and more angry and desperate 339 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: and sad and multuous in the storm and sadness and 340 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: depression and hatred and. 341 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: All underheath him. 342 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: And he does such a freaking great job. Quinn and 343 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: Huck have so much together in this episode. Oh, it's 344 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: vintage Huckleberry. 345 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: Quinn is what it is? 346 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: It really is. You are brilliant in this episode. Your 347 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: fucking work is so good that first time you walk 348 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: in the into Huck's office and you say hey, Huck, 349 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: like super like bubbly and happy. I forget what you said. 350 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 3: Whatever you want to punch her in the face? 351 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: What's that drug? Can you believe that? To use drugs 352 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: sometimes to knock people out for like ten hours? What's 353 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: it called? And Huck is like, what are you talking about? 354 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: And then he gives her the name of the drug, 355 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: M ninety nine, and he's like, or a torphine a torfe. 356 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: Which it's the same thing. Is that a real drub? 357 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know, But Katie and 358 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: then you, Huck answers you and you're like, oh cool, 359 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Can you believe that? And then this camera 360 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: stays on you and you walk out and you go 361 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: from a smile to like a look of like I 362 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: fucking hate or I'm figuring this shit out. Oh it's 363 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: so good. It's so good? 364 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: Do you think? 365 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: So I watch it and I'm like, oh, Vey is 366 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: mir like she was doing yo. 367 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: But also, Katie, this was an eating moment for me. 368 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: For Huck when he's eating that sandwich, Oh my god, wait. 369 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: Oh see that's funny. 370 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: I didn't even fucking I've watched this episode twice now, 371 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: never even saw that you were eating a sandwich because 372 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: clearly I'm a narcissist and was only looking at my 373 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: own performance. 374 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: What are you eating and in what scene? 375 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: Oh it's a sandwich. It was probably a turkey on 376 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: whole weep toast with lettuce, tomato, mao. Sometimes I would 377 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: say mustard because Mayo would fuck up my stomach sometimes, 378 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: so if I was shooting but and they put some 379 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: chips on the side, that that dairy situation. 380 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 3: You know you loved a HOGI Huck loved a hogy. 381 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: He loves Who doesn't love a hogy? 382 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 3: Everybody loves a Hogy, But I feel like he's one 383 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: of the few. You don't love a hogy? 384 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: Oh? No, no, I love a Hobey. Yeah. Yeah, I'm 385 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: saying I don't not love a hogy. 386 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I feel like Huck probably, out of every 387 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: character on Scandal ate the most sandwiches. 388 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Oh, because they would always be like, what do you 389 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: want to eat? I mean, I guess the sandwich or 390 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: a burger is always the most practical on set. But 391 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: I would always be like a sandwich, a turkey sandwich, 392 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: and I would get so excited. 393 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: Okay, then what the hell happens? Okay? 394 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 2: So Quinn Huck have so much, so many good scenes 395 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: because Quinn is on the case. She is on the 396 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: case of trying to figure out how she could have 397 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 2: been put out, drugged and taken from pedal lum in 398 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: California to Washington, d see with a new identity, and 399 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: she's going to figure it out. And she's like playing 400 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: two sides of a coin where she's going into Huck's 401 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: office and being like, how would you drag a person 402 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: and how would you get a person out? How would 403 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: you get him on a private plane? 404 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: How would you She has this, Yeah, she has a 405 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: super strong feeling that Huck was a part of it, 406 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: which I think is it's the first time you kind 407 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: of see into Quinn's brain and you're like, oh, she's 408 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: fucking good. That's why Olivia, Yeah, saved her, and why 409 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: Olivia has her on her team because you're figuring all 410 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: this shit out. 411 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: I do like that that's kind of smart in this episode, Like, yeah, yeah, 412 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: I think that Quinn. I think that Olivia definitely saves 413 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: Quinn because she feels bad that she ruined her life 414 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: and Jesse Tyler does and all of that. Yeah, But 415 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: I do also think that, you know, Quinn is slowly 416 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 2: proving herself with her gut. But in this episode is 417 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: the first time you're like, oh, she ain't stupid. 418 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And and Huck too, I think, is kind 419 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: of like thrown for a loop. I feel I feel 420 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: like he's like, oh shit, like is she really putting 421 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: all this shit together? Because he knows obvious that he's 422 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: the one that did all this stuff to her, which 423 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: we find out later. Right, we kind of see all 424 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: the stuff that she's talking about play out in real time, 425 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: right in a flashback. 426 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: We see in flashbacks that Huck was the one that 427 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: was outside of the apartment, you know, that was at 428 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 2: the motel, threw her over his shoulder. 429 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: That's when I shoulder Yeah, yeah, yeah. 430 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 431 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: I was like I just kept I remember thinking, please, 432 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: just don't fart or ship yourself when you put it 433 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: because you guys, but not because you were because I 434 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: just was like, oh fuck, don't fart and don't ship yourself. 435 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: To hoist me. I'm more the same height pretty much. 436 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm five sixty five seven and I remember the same weight, 437 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: to be honest, especially at that time. Yeah, yeah, up 438 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: your own body, put it on your shoulder and walk 439 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: a while and sling me in a car that is 440 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: not safe. 441 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 3: I don't know why you do that, wild I did it. 442 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: It was and I think also people that have done 443 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: that know that that way of carrying someone is the 444 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: easiest way to carry someone. That's why people do it. 445 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: True. 446 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: I think because the weight sort of levels out in 447 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: a way where you don't feel it that much. I 448 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: could be mistaken, but I believe that's the case. But 449 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: that whole time, I was thinking, don't fart, don't start, 450 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: don't shit, don't fart. Oh god, did you ever fart? 451 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: On set? I farted, So there was times I'd be like, oh, 452 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: I just started. I don't nobody realized that. 453 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: No, I think I'm just getting into my public farting age. 454 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeause you were forty. 455 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: On Scandal and I was thirty, so I just think 456 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: my life. But was like, I just no, I'm noticing 457 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: it like older people just don't care. 458 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: You don't care as much about yeah yeah yeah. 459 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: But you're also you drank so much like tea and 460 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: which is really good for your stomach, So I think 461 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: you're your stomach was always in a good place. 462 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 2: Party person as it is. I'm just not like I 463 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: think you either are or not. I've never and every 464 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: I can't believe the amount. 465 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: Of farts we've talked about on this episode. 466 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: One My God, people are gonna love it. People are gonna. 467 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: There's a book everybody poops everybody parts. 468 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm not like that farty and some people are just 469 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: like I fart a lot, Like there's just like a 470 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: lot of farting going on. 471 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm not listen. I'm not that guy that's like, bro, 472 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: I just like I don't fart in front of people, 473 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, g and crack up like other guys. No, 474 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: I only do it. I mostly doing when I'm sleeping. 475 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm a big fartist posting Mikey's like you were farting 476 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: it up last night, or or if I fall asleep 477 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: in the living room, people be like, girl, you just 478 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: you were. I was like what? 479 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 2: And I get so embarrassed each other either, but like 480 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 2: so many people in my life, like he'll kill me whatever. 481 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: My brother is like, I refuse they him and his 482 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 2: wife have been together for seventeen years and they part 483 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 2: of each other. He goes, I refuse to live in 484 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: a prison, That's what he says, where. 485 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: I can't let and it's very unhealthy. I'm not uld 486 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: you're supposed to. 487 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: Like, but Adam and I do not far in front 488 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: of each other in a prison. 489 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like I'm in a I don't know, 490 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't know I'm But Mikey's like he doesn't even ge, 491 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: just like we'll be having a conversation and just be like, 492 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: oh and continue talking, and I'm like, we'll be right back, guys. 493 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 3: Okay. There's a lot of Quinn and Hawk. 494 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: There's also just such beautiful moments of Harrison and Abby 495 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: are the ones who are really outside the crazy Harold 496 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: Pearce's mansion, and they're the ones who are really working 497 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: the case. They're trying to get him committed for being insane, 498 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: and they're the ones that are like on a stakeout 499 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: and they're eating chips and talking about their life. Because 500 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: Harrison is the one that old Abby like, you shouldn't 501 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: be with David Rosen, He's not a good dude, and 502 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: sort of led her to the lie that David Rosen 503 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 2: had abused his previous relationship. And and it's just so 504 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: sweet between Harrison and Abby. 505 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 3: They have that slow dancing scene that is. 506 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: Yes, the sweet, it's the best. They have also have 507 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: that moment where Abby is sleeping and Harrison is listening 508 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 1: to her voicemail on her phone. I was like, what 509 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: are you doing? Like but I mean that wasn't a 510 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: sweet moment, but it was an interesting moment. But that 511 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: dance when they dance together, Oh, it's so good. 512 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: Ella Fitzgerald playing playing in the background. 513 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 3: Yes till the day I or something like that. Yes, 514 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: she has the most. 515 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: It's such a beautiful choice. The two of them are 516 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: just so lovely. And he's like, you're gonna find a 517 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 2: good dude one day, Abby, and you're like sitting there 518 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: just dying inside because you're like, David Rosen was that 519 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: good dude? 520 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? I know, Well she'll find her way back to him. 521 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: She'll find her way back. 522 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: Spoiler and only like how Abby can like that that 523 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: right before her, the crying tears that are welled up 524 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: in her eyes. 525 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: I mean, she's just absolutely. 526 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: And we've got James is like all over defiance, all 527 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: these this is why Scandal, so really, all of these 528 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: fucking storylines are going on at one time. We've got 529 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: Harold Pierce with Abby and Harrison and his like hot 530 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: hot new baby baby wife girlfriend who he marries in 531 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: the episode. 532 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: That's an amazing part. 533 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Great, they're sending. 534 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: Him in a doctor because he's sick, and they actually 535 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: send him in a doctor of theology to officiate the 536 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: fucking wedding. So now Harold Pierce is married to the 537 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: little baby playboy Bunny. Then and then you and I 538 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: are like in the office and I'm sniffing out the 539 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: Quinn origin story. And then at the same time, James 540 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: is like at the White House having dinner for the 541 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: resident's birthday, and the fits has this amazing story where 542 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: he talks about how the whole election only came down 543 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: to three little districts in Defiance, Ohio. 544 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and James is like. 545 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 2: Wait what this sounds exactly like all the ship that 546 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: David Rosen has been telling me. 547 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: And this is really freaking me out. I feel like 548 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: this is not. 549 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: And in that scene, seeing the faces of Verna and 550 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Cyrus and Melly, how because they all know obviously that 551 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: they stole the election, And when Fitzman mentions Defiance, because 552 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, he he says in that in that in 553 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: that scene, how all the red states stayed red, all 554 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: the blue states stayed blue. And then it was that Defiance, 555 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: which was supposed to be a blue state because he 556 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: fits is Republican, right, and then it turned red and oh, 557 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: it's such a great scene. 558 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: And he's like, that's why you don't believe in polsters. 559 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: Yes, and there we put you in that white house. 560 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is all just a lie. 561 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: But then of course James is like, oh shit, there's 562 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: some truth to this, like Rosen is onto something. Let 563 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: me jump in on this and figure this out, figure 564 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: fucking Defiance out and Cytron and all of that. 565 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: It's so good. 566 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: This episode is so fast and the most amazing part 567 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: of the episode. And well, are there any other wait, 568 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: hold on, I'm looking at my notes, I'm looking at 569 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: my yeah, yeah, Edison, Okay, James is off in Defiance. 570 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: After that, he's like working on the voting machines. He's 571 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: like playing sleuth. He's like going through every single voting 572 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 2: machine and trying to find the cartridges and the cards 573 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: to figure out how it could have been rigged. And 574 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: then he finds one voting machine that's been missing that 575 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: he can't find, and it's in a school and it's 576 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: like behind glass in Defiance, Ohio. And he gets in 577 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: there and he's like, please, God, let the card be there. 578 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: Please gotta let me be the card there. And the 579 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: card is there, and then he runs the numbers and 580 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: it's total proof that the election was rigged. 581 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: And Dan Bugatinsky does such a good job. 582 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: He really does. That's why he won the Emmy. He 583 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: won the Emmy, right, he. 584 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: Won the Emmy for Best Guest Star that Year, Guest 585 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 4: Star Performance. 586 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: The Emmys we got were Dan Bucatinski Guestar Performance, Joe 587 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: Morton Guest Star. 588 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: Yes, and I think and I think Kate person dominated. 589 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: She might have gotten nominated the I know the show 590 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: got nominated for for like the NAACP Awards and for 591 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: did we get nominated for SAG? We did? We went 592 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: to the We went as a cast to the SAG Awards. 593 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: Didn't we want to know? Maybe not. 594 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: Kerry got nominated for Best Actress Emmys and Golden Globes 595 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: but didn't win. But honestly, in my opinion, just paved 596 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: ways for viol like right after you know. But yeah, 597 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: So we figure out that he's got hardcore proof that 598 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: the election was rigged, and. 599 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: Live tells Edison she's all in. 600 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 601 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 2: Edison gets voted to be the Senator Majority Leader and 602 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: he's like, come on, let's go to the President's birthday 603 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: gala as my date. 604 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: And he opens the door and could Carrie look fucking hotter? 605 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Oh that dress? That dress god. 606 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: Beautiful or the makeup, the bag? Ah, she's like evening 607 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: Senator and it's like so cute. 608 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: And they're in the limo and it's like they're a 609 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: real couple and they're so adorable together. At the same time, 610 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: they're cutting to Fits and Mellie, who are also in 611 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: a limo heading to the same party, and Mellie's acting 612 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: like a weirdo. She's like, I just really don't want 613 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 2: to go, and I want to go and I want 614 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: to be She's got a really weird feeling. 615 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: And I was just going to say, it's I think 616 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing. I feel like in a lot 617 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: of situations like that, people people have talked about having 618 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: gut feelings like that, like Oh, I'm not getting on 619 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: this flight. I don't know why, but I'm just not 620 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: getting on and then the plane goes down. She had 621 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: a feeling something bad was that never was going to happen, 622 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, Oh God, do that I. 623 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: The last plane ride I was on, like last week. 624 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: It was the worst turbune I've been on probably ten 625 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: thousand plane rides. It was the worst turbulence I've ever had. 626 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm gonna do I'm going to 627 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: survive this. 628 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: It was. 629 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: I was getting thrown around as if I was on 630 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: a fucking roller coaster? 631 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? 632 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 3: No? And I was like, my kids thought it was hilarious, 633 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: but I was. 634 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: They didn't care. 635 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: You were like, oh, like refusing to sit down, and 636 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm like holding them down, and the the flight attendants 637 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: are bearing down that I mean, no one was allowed. 638 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: It was awful for hours, not just like a little stink. 639 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: It was like five or ten minutes. It was horrendous. 640 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 1: Oh. 641 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: I was in the back of the plane. 642 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: Steerage by the toilets, getting flung around. 643 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: It was awful. And I was like rinking, why again, 644 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: were drinking? 645 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: Didn't have some wine? They weren't. 646 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they couldn't even be up or about It 647 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: was fuck fucking terrible anyway, So, yes, Melli has a 648 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: really bad feeling. But wait real quick before this part, 649 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: Quinn figures it out. Yeah, she comes in and she 650 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: nails it. She's like I called the flight records, and 651 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: there is a flight record that, uh, there was a 652 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: private plane that was flown from Petaluma to Washington, d C. 653 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: On the night that I was taken. And I think 654 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: that someone was someone like you or it was you, 655 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: because the plane was registered to Verna Thornton. 656 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 3: And it's like. 657 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: Ding ming, we got it. Yeah, so we figured out 658 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: how Quinn Perkins is no longer Lindsay Dwyer and she's 659 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: Quinn Perkins. 660 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: And then what is what is Huck's reaction there? I 661 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: don't remember what is he is? 662 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: He does he like, didn't I already tell you? I 663 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: don't watch you in the scenes. 664 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: I only watch my admit. 665 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: I think Hawk gave some sort of classic amazing Garamau 666 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: Hawk reaction where you're doing three things, No, you're doing 667 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: three things at once. 668 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: You're a little I watched this episode like five times 669 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, how do I not remember that moment? Like, 670 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: what was Huck's reaction to that? 671 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: Got moments and scandal, I mean, for a forty two 672 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: minute show, it is. 673 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: Chocked so many fucking moments. 674 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: So she's saying, don't get out of the car, don't 675 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 3: get out of the car, don't get out of the 676 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: car and they get out of the car. 677 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: And he's like, sometimes you can't get everything you want, 678 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: which is a line that she says to him earlier. 679 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: And she's just like devastated, like ugh, and he gets 680 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: out of the car. 681 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: He's like, buck up, I don't always want to do 682 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: everything I have to do either. Yeah, and we're going 683 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: and he gets out of the car and bang, h shot. 684 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: What thehuck? What the remember? Isn't that the hashtag that 685 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: started like in the next episode A couple of episodes down, Yeah, I. 686 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: Forgot about the hashtag. What the houck? Geez? You blinators 687 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: and your hashtags were genius. 688 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: Y'all were good. 689 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: And I'm going, I can't believe they shot the president. 690 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: I was talking to a writer about Scandal and they 691 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: were like they they told me the moment they realized 692 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: that Scandal was absolutely genius was they were talking to 693 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: friends and they were saying at the time, they were like, 694 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: you know, this show is going to be so awesome 695 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: at some point down the road, you know, I could 696 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: see them even like shooting the president. And he was 697 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: like and then it happened that night, wow, meaning like 698 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: he just was like, Scandal was never afraid of story. 699 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: It never held on to huge plot points and waited 700 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: for them to come down the road. 701 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, we were fucking. 702 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 2: In it and going one hundred and ten million miles 703 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: an hour with big choices and making big swings from this. 704 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: It was unpredictable. It was unpredictable, which is what keeps 705 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: the show going. I think that's what keeps people coming back, right, and. 706 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: Even seven, So that's that's fourteen episodes of this show 707 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: have been made and aired and we just shot the president. 708 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but even for us, right, we were always like, fuck, 709 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: we don't know what. I don't know what's going to 710 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: happen to my character. They could kill me off always, 711 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, you hope they don't, but anything can happen. 712 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: That's what made it so exciting. 713 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, when he gets shot, it's Tom Verica did such 714 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: an amazing job. Doesn't it feel like fucking frightening? And 715 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 2: it feels like you're there. It feels like you're like 716 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: in the crowd, like it. 717 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: Feels how he did that. 718 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: I don't know enough about shooting to know you're director 719 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: that I am, but it felt like you're there. 720 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's fucking it just gets catches you off guard. 721 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: It's Oh, it's so good, It's so scary. It's so 722 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: scary when you see him get hit and then he 723 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: falls and. 724 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: Then like she's like screaming and there's like multiple shots, 725 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 2: and I'm when we have Tom Verica on I've we 726 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: have to ask him about the Trail, which was his 727 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: first episode in season six episodes of season one, and 728 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: then we have to ask him about how he shot 729 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 2: this scene because I I think it's done so well, 730 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: Like I love that it's not close up unfits, like 731 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: it just really feels like I imagine scarily what a 732 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: shooting would feel like in a public place where there's 733 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: a lot of people. 734 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, God, could you Oh man? I was thinking to Kate, 735 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder what Jackie O NASA's was 736 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: feeling in the car. Did she have a weird feeling 737 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: because you know, women have really good intuition and good 738 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: gut instincts, So I was I was thinking about that. 739 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if he had any sort 740 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: of odd feeling like before they left their the house 741 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: or or what have you. If she was like, oh, 742 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: this doesn't feel right. I wonder I wonder you know. 743 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. 744 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: Know, but I feel that way now every time I'm 745 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: in like public group settings. It's like if something ever like, 746 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm just it sucks. I hate that I have to 747 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 2: feel that way, but I totally do. Remember did you 748 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 2: and I when we were in d C. Didn't we 749 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 2: go to one of the stops when we did this, 750 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 2: Like we talked about it on the Tony Goldwin guest 751 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: episode where we did like a big nighttime tour of 752 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 2: DC and we stepped all the monuments. Didn't we stop 753 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 2: at the booth theater where Abe Lincoln was shot? 754 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, we sure did we Did we have photos 755 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: in front of you? 756 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, Like that's insane. 757 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: And that was back in the day they were fucking 758 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: assassinating presidents. 759 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 3: I just I can't, I can't. 760 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I just think this episode is so great 761 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 2: and everyone, as per usual, does look great. 762 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: And our guest stars are so good. Y'all got to 763 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: go and watch the Bad Seed, like and Rudy. I'm 764 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: gonna do the same. I'm gonna fucking watch Rudy. I'm 765 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: so sorry for lying you guys, and and whataby. 766 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: Tuna fun facts from the episode M ninety nine, The 767 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: drug that Quinn learns about from Huck is the same 768 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 2: drug that Dexter uses when he knocks out his victims. 769 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: Did you watch Dexter? 770 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: I watched a little bit. I watched. I did like 771 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: a la carte situation with Dexter. I would have watched 772 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: an episode here and there, but I never watched the 773 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: whole series three. But I loved the episodes I watched. 774 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it was great, He's so good. I was 775 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: also thinking watching the episode, I was like, oh shit, 776 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: like I was. I was so into watching James figure 777 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: out the cytron and defiant situation, and I was like, 778 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: why did I not? How is this all so new 779 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: to me? And I think it was because whenever we 780 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: would watch the episodes, we were always tweeting. We had 781 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: to live tweet yep so so many I mean, we 782 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: would be on set shooting, but then we would go 783 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: watch it together or separate, but we were always live tweeting. 784 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: So I never fully fully watched the episodes, you know 785 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: what I mean? And now like I'm able to do that, 786 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: which I. 787 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: The same way, like, there were so many parts of 788 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: the episodes where I would be just buried in my phone. 789 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: That we would missing Yeah. 790 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 3: Tweet Twitter, tweeter Twitter, speaking of tweeters, tweet twitch tweet 791 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 3: speaking of tweeters, Guys, some of the scandal tweets of 792 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: the time. 793 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: Right, Well, let's see Donna Harold at Donna j Harold. 794 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 1: She says, just check the liquor cabinet. My patron is missing, 795 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: either Fits or for to one one has been there? 796 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: Who's four one one has been here? Bastard's hashtag scandal. 797 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 3: Wait, Fits didn't drink patron? 798 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: I know drank, didn't fitz whisky? He drank whisky. 799 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Donna Harold, but whatever, You're cute. Lou Velli 800 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: Creole at Lovely Creole on November twenty ninth, twenty twelve. 801 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: Can Live keep her game face on throughout scandal? Will 802 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 2: the President punch Lives new boo in the face hashtag scandal. 803 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 3: I don't think. Oh, did Fits and Edison ever have 804 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 3: a scene together? 805 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember. But also I don't 806 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: know if we talked that that moment where Olivia realizes 807 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: that Fits endorse Edison, right, in a sense, he sort 808 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: of endored, which is the sign that he's let Olivia go. Oh, 809 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: the look on Carrie's face and her acting in that scene. 810 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: It was so good. 811 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 3: It's okay for him to be the Senate majority. 812 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so Big Bob at b s, I'm not listen. 813 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: Big Bob tweeted, I may get my man card pulled 814 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: for this, but I'm addicted to Scandal and I'm not 815 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: going to rehab. You shouldn't, man, you shouldn't. Let's see 816 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Swainey, Patrick sweezy but not so. Scandal went and 817 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: got superbly thrilling while I had my back turn there 818 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: fucking aces this show like a sexy and murderous The 819 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: Good Wife. Yeah. I never watched the. 820 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 3: Watch that's Christine Baranski. 821 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, who I love. But our shows better. Never 822 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 1: what I said our show's better. I've never seen it either, 823 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: but I have a feeling our show's better. 824 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 3: I feel so much better. 825 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 2: Miss original it, Miss Masila says hashtag Scandal so good. 826 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 2: Olivia and the President should defo be together. 827 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 3: I don't get that. 828 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: Vanity Smurf yes, says So I'm trying to come up 829 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,479 Speaker 1: with a drinking game for Scandal. What should the rules be? 830 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 2: My drinking game with Scandal was whenever anyone, says QR 831 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 2: recognition software. 832 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: Well. 833 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 3: We ever, when we. 834 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 2: Were on set and we were doing like a big 835 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: episode that had a lot of hacking. Anytime that anyone 836 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: said QR facial recognition software, you had to drink. 837 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god? Was it often? I guess it was? Right. 838 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a few episodes where I feel like you. 839 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 2: They're much later on, it's like you. And when Josh 840 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 2: Molina became one of us for like a second, Oh yeah, 841 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 2: a lot of QR facial recognition software, which I have 842 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 2: no fucking clue what the hell. 843 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: That is, but drink everybody. 844 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: Next episode is called Happy Birthday, Mister President. 845 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 3: Happy. Oh that's better. That was really good. 846 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,439 Speaker 1: Well, and then in this next episode we're gonna see 847 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 1: everything that happens after the president gets shot. 848 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: Happy Birthday Mister President is so amazing, guys. Obviously, G 849 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: and I could talk for fuck ever. So I hope 850 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 2: you guys are finding this entertaining, informational, breaking up the 851 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 2: monotony of your day. 852 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: We love It'll be a prisoner at home and let 853 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: those parts out, let that gas outs rip. 854 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 3: And I don't even take. 855 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 1: My own advice, guys, what's same? 856 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 3: You know, who are the prisoners in their own homes me. 857 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: And g Gues, Me and Katie. 858 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for listening. We love you. 859 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more. 860 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: I love you guys. 861 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: Thank you and bye bye. 862 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox. 863 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share with your friends, rate, 864 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: or leave us a review. 865 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 2: Scandal is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, alex Alcea, Lauren Homan, 866 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 2: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is 867 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 2: Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher. 868 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: Scandal is a production of ABC Signature, and you can 869 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: follow along by rewatching Scandal on Hulu. 870 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 2: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in 871 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,439 Speaker 2: partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from Shondaland Audio, visit 872 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app or anywhere you subscribe to your favorite shows.