1 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: I do a live on a Tuesday edition of the program. 7 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: There you are well cut nearly Bo the great z 8 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: at least Mike. Yeah, I mean, you're good. 9 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 3: I wanted to throw that in the other day when 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: you're telling me that unbelievable story about the guy running 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: and everybody chasing that somebody should have been commentating have been. 12 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that would have been a great the bowling 13 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: green kid who is running from the authorities, running from 14 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: Johnny law Man from John law on Homecoming week. So 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: that that made the round. So I thought, I give 16 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: you with that. And then my brother in law is 17 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: a is a bowling green guy too, so I sent 18 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: it to him and he was dying. He goes, that 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: was me, except I got caught when I stopped to 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 2: throw up. Yeah, so that's about right. Yeah, that'll happen. 21 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: We've got a lot to do. Do you want to 22 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: Let's go choose your own adventure. Do you want to 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: pay homage to an all time great first? Do you 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: want to do Monday night first? Or do you want 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: to do our updates first? 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: Let's do the our updates, get those out of the way, 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: and then we can have bigger because they're just updates. 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: And then there's no practice, there's nothing, there's nothing we'll do. 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: Just let the people know what's going on, and then 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: we'll go get into all right, into our business. 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: Right. We're off today, back in the middling tomorrow start 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: preparation for the commis. Nick Chubb will practice tomorrow. Chemist 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: Fanski hinted that Nahem Hines could also practice at some 34 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: point this week. The twenty one window opens tomorrow. At 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: the end of the twenty one days, he has to 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: be elevated to the roster or replaced on IR for 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: the rest of the season. What do you think about 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: this news yesterday in regard to Nick Chubb. 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: Thanks great. I think that he is well ahead of schedule. 40 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: I think that he could be back. I think he 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: could be ready to roll soon. And that's kind of 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: I always thought. I thought, you know, mid to late 43 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: October would be the time period. It could even be 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: before that. But it's great news. We need him, We 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: need David a job, We need all hands on deck. 46 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: Right now. We are one in three and the schedule 47 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: is going to be very hard the next five games, 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: and we have to find a way to be five 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: and four or at the worst four and five after 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: these next five games. 51 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: I think we're kind of in a we're kind of 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: in a race with Cincinnati because there we both share 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: the same record one and three. You know, their offense 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: is hummed for three straight weeks. Their defense they have issues, 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: but offensively they've they've been going for three weeks in 56 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: a row, really, But our schedules are pretty similar. Theirs 57 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: is they still get to play the Giants. They've already 58 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: played Washington, so they still get to play the Giants 59 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: in their next five I was scheduled this morning and 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: kind of juxtaposing it to ours and kind of said 61 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: the same thing about them, like, if they could get 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,279 Speaker 2: to four and five, that's not ideal, but that's salvageable. 63 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: You can try to find a way to play the 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: second half with purpose and chase down a playoff spot. 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: You're not going to win the division if you're four 66 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: and five at the halfway through. It's just not in 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: the cards, but you could certainly still make the playoffs 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: and all of those things. And that is kind of 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: the thing I think us in Cincinnati, and Cincinnati plays 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: Baltimore this weekend, so there is an opportunity for one 71 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: of those two teams to find themselves back in the mix. 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: And not by no coincidence they play, we play them 73 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: in that stretch as well. 74 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: Totally. Look, if Cincinnati wins their two and three, the 75 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: Ravens would be two and three. If we could win, 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: we'd all be two and three, would be right there. 77 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: And if not, the Bengals dropped to one and four, 78 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: we have a chance to get ahead of them. Right, 79 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: It's all good. The Division games are going to be 80 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: so massive for the Cleveland Browns this year. I mean 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: they are every single year, but this year in particular, 82 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: I think it is going to be very very interesting 83 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: to see how it's gonna go, because you are you've 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: lost a couple of games that you thought you were 85 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: going to win, and I think I think for the 86 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 3: Browns it's going to require four and two in the Division. 87 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: I think those six games, you've got to be at 88 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: least four and two to have a shot and If 89 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: you do that, you're a five hundred football team where 90 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: you are right now, and then you're gonna have to 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: just figure out a way to be one or two 92 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: games over five, two games over five hundred, maybe three 93 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: games over five hundred in your non division games the 94 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: rest of the way to try to get to ten wins. 95 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: That's that's the math. That's what it's going to take. 96 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you can really only afford to lose two 97 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: more non division games, even if you go four and 98 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: two in the division. 99 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, so you can they go at 100 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: one in three they go host Baltimore at Giants, at 101 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: US host Eagles Ers. So that's their next five. Okay, 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: so that's their next five for us, it's right here 103 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 2: in front of us. It's Commi's Eagles both on the road, 104 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: host Cincinnata, host Baltimore, host charges yep. Okay, So the 105 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: it's five games, you've played four, it's five and order 106 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: to get to five and four, you're four and one 107 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: in those stretch. The worst I think you can be 108 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: is three and two if you want to have a hope. 109 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: So that's really this is and there you're in the 110 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: exact same boat as a division foe who has the 111 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: exact same, if not loftier goals than you do. But 112 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: right when, if you go to August, both us and 113 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 2: them said, let's go win the Super Bowl. That's what 114 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: we gess. So so that's the thing now from their perspective, again, 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: their offense is humming right now, not much is for us. 116 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: Back to Nick Chubb for a second. I get this 117 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: all the time. I'm sure you get this all the time, 118 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: and we don't have the answer for it. Folks, What 119 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: what what are we getting with Nick Chubb when he 120 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: comes back? This is the were two catastrophic injuries. I'm 121 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: past the point of ever counting out him. Correct, But 122 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: at the same time, I don't know what to expect 123 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: on the field. But I do know this, Nick Chubb 124 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: coming back to practice Wednesday, in whatever form he's in, 125 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: will be an incredible boost to the morale of this team. Yep, 126 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: it'll be an incredible boost to the accountability of this team. 127 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: And it's not that Nick. You guys know him plenty. 128 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, everything that you think about him is exactly 129 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: what it is. If you created a football player, it 130 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: would be Nick Chubb. He's not raw, raw guy, He's 131 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: not a yell guy, but he's an example guy. So 132 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: what you're going to get out of him and return 133 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: to practice as a return to there's a level of 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: accountability and professionalism that Nick Chubb carries that others can't 135 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: help but follow. Yep, And so that will all help 136 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: in terms of on the field, when does he help 137 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: or what does that look like? Really only he knows that, 138 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: and he probably won't even know that until you get 139 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: on the field. 140 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: Right now, you're you hope it's got to be a 141 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: boost whatever or wherever you need that inspiration from. This 142 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: is what you got to get. You need that boost, 143 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: and Nick Chubb hopefully will provide some of that lift 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: for this Cleveland Browns football team. You've got to find 145 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: something to rally around him. By the way, Nahem Heines, 146 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: our return game, especially with Pierre out, has not been 147 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 3: anything special, certainly on the kickoffs. Get Nihim Heines actually 148 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: has a chance, I think to be a little bit 149 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: of a difference maker for us. Getting him back I 150 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: think is going to help as well. 151 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: Will you think that the dynamic kick would have a 152 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: bigger impact? 153 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: Did I? 154 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeeah me too? It really hasn't. 155 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: No, there's been one kick return touchdown so far and 156 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: that was week one. 157 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it hasn't really changed like starting position. 158 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: Or you would think it's wild is touchbacks. He's come 159 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: out to the twenty, then they made it the twenty five, 160 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: then they made to the thirty, and it's really no 161 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: discernible difference in scoring. Now we are starting to see 162 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: some teams lighted up. And last night, let me tell 163 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: you something, two Monday night games need to be here 164 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: to stay because when you have a complete stinker. 165 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: Well, the first one would have been one where I 166 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: just would have went manning Cast. Only by the time 167 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: I got home from basketball tryouts. 168 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: It was they weren't They weren't even gonna man Cast. 169 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: Wouldn't never even done that game. 170 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it would have been something where it would 171 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: have been funny to want to listen to their interviews 172 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: and make fun of the people and how mad it was. No, 173 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: it it. You certainly needed the second game. The you 174 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: and I split these games. We both had. We had 175 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: Miami and then we had Detroit. So we got one 176 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: of them on the Miami side of it. 177 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: Well, you got I remember, I was like, did you 178 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: get them both? 179 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: No? 180 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: I didn't get either. 181 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: Oh, really, I thought you and I went the same same. 182 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: Different Remember I literally talked myself into why it should 183 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 3: have been the Lions, and it was obvious that it 184 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 3: should be the Lions, and then for some reason. 185 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: You live flipped. That's right, like you talked yourself off 186 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: of it on both So what happens when you're slumping. 187 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: It's hard. Yeah, it's hard. 188 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: You got a winning week, I was seven and nine. 189 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: Again, it's tough. It's hard in the streets. 190 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start giving our status out as how many 191 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: games we are over five hundred from the start of 192 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: the twenty three season, because we're still like forty. Thegn 193 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty three were forty. 194 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: I cannot believe, and I think it borderlines on malpractice 195 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: or malfeasance that Miami went into this season as a 196 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: team that was expecting to be in the mix in 197 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: the division and at the top of the AFC and 198 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: did not have a viable backup plan to a tongue 199 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: of Iloa who has been hurt often and always, and 200 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: we know it's none of his fault, but he's just 201 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: as prone to concussion, he's prone to injury. To not 202 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: have a viable backup behind him who could competently manage 203 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: a football game is a stunning act of negligence. Stunning. 204 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: Yes, my hot take is maybe two as the MVP 205 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 3: of the league, because when he's in and when he's out, 206 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: I mean, they've still got Tyreek Hill, they still got Waddle, 207 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 3: they still got a chan. This is the worst three 208 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: game stretch of Tyree Kill's career. 209 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean they can't. 210 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: This is the only only other time he's ever been 211 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: below fifty yards for three straight games was his rookie 212 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: season in Kansas City. Yeah. To his ability to throw 213 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: with anticipation and operate this offense is stunning when you 214 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: see what it's looked like without him. 215 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't, but like this type of offense is 216 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: being operated by Sam Darnold, by brock perty by tow 217 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: a tongue of Iloa, by Matt Stafford. 218 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: It's there. They're different, They're all in the come out 219 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: of the same umbrella, same roots. But this is not 220 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: a Shanahan running game. No, no, no, no to their passing. 221 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the motion, which to me only exacerbates 222 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: the idea that they didn't think they needed a competent backup. 223 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: I just wonder, like, just put Flacco. 224 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: On that team. 225 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's I don't know if Flacco 226 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: works on that team, and the reason. 227 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: It works better than what's happening now. He could throw 228 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: the bombs over bad so he would at least hit those. Yeah, 229 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: he could hit the deep shots and they could just 230 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: have wattle in Hill. I mean, I felt so bad. 231 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: Snoop Untley was such a great guy when he was here, 232 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: well liked by his teammates. I mean, did you you 233 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: didn't see it. So there's a pregame interview with Tyreek Hill. 234 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: He's like, dude, our quarterback's a pro bowler. He's like that, 235 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: we're going to be fine. Like this is like, man, 236 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: this is going to be a great game. We're going 237 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: to like these guys up. And then by the end 238 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 3: of the game he's throwing his helmet and yelling on 239 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: the sidelines because he got missed. I think at least 240 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: for two long touchdowns he missed him. Flacco would hit those. 241 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: But this offense is much more about quick releases, anticipatory throwing. 242 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 3: Flacco's got a little bit of a longer release and 243 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: and like drills it in. There's a lot more kind 244 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: of air under the ball, like floaty stuff that Towa 245 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: does seeing it. I mean when we went down there 246 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago and got smoked by them, 247 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: it was like watching art. He was. It's how good 248 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: he was, and none of it looks good. It's just 249 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: so good. Yeah, I don't know who it could be. 250 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 3: I mean I think you. 251 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: Would acknowledge though, that the situation that they were. 252 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: In, they should just go get Tanehill and be like, look, dude, 253 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: you might start told season, you might not. Where's this 254 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: magical I'm going to start every the rest of the week. 255 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: I mean, he's hoping for a Flacco situation, is my guess. 256 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: Sure, and there might there may be one that crops 257 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: up at some point, but like if Purty gets hurt, 258 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: Like I you don't even know who the backup with 259 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: the Niners is right now? 260 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: Is it Garoppolos with the Rams, which yes, by the way. 261 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: By the way, that would be somebody who would have 262 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: be viable. 263 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, he would, he'd be fine in this offense. 264 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: In this offense, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of 265 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: things that would have been better than what they chose 266 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: to do. And they had everything else and they had 267 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: a quarterback whose injury prone, bab you're bout read of 268 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: a lost season. 269 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: I think people I think they were thinking, well, he 270 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: just made it through all of twenty twenty three and 271 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: was a leading passer in the NFL, like he hadn't 272 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: had one since twenty two, all those ones that felt 273 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 3: like to me it was last year, but that was 274 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: actually twenty twenty two, where all those concussions. He is 275 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: so important to what they do. They are dreadful without him. 276 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: They might be the worst team in the NFL without him. 277 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: They're right up there, buddy, They're right up there. And 278 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: I think the conversely, like with with Tennessee and their operation, 279 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: like Rudolph barely competent, but better than Levis. 280 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, they would even be better off with like Josh Dobbs. 281 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's what I mean. Like, there's a lot 282 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: of guys who are capable of getting you through a 283 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: three or four game stretch and winning two games. You 284 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: cannot lose that game at home if you're trying to 285 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: be a real football team, if you're trying to be 286 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: a serious team, that's impossible. 287 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: And they had a lot of chances earlier where they 288 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: could have I think kind of blown it open and 289 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: they didn't. That was yeah, it was it was dread 290 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: That one was dreadful and the other game was so 291 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: much fun. It was It's that's great to me. That 292 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: is great, great football. Seahawks had a chance, I think, 293 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: to probably win that game, or certainly be closer in it, 294 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: but that was just so fun. The Lions are so 295 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: fun to watch. I thoroughly enjoy them. 296 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: For sure, They're definitely flawed because they went perfect in 297 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: the past game team for eighteen yea two hundred and nineteen. Yeah, 298 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 2: they even had the brown threw it to him for 299 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: a touchdown that they were nineteen nineteen. 300 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: They averaged Goff averaged sixteen point two yards per attempt, 301 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 3: ninety five point one by one hundred and fifty five 302 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: point eight quarterback ring. If one hundred and fifty eight 303 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: point three is perfect, how does he not perfect? Well? 304 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: Would you else? 305 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: What do you want him to do? Maybe he did 306 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: throw an in completion, threw two touchdowns. He averaged seven 307 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: sixteen point two yards an attempt an attempt. It's craziness, 308 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: and he caught a touchdown. I mean, what a game 309 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: for Jared Goff. So fun Gibbs is electric. Montgomery had 310 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: one of the best catches and runs I've ever seen. 311 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker had one of the most fun plays I've 312 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: ever seen where he got tackled but his knee and 313 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: his elbows never touched. Then he kind of dove into 314 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: the tackler to use his head to like nip up 315 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: out of it and kept running. Yeah, that one was crazy. 316 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: Gino was really good. They were four hundred great field. 317 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jackson, Smith and Jigwa they I'd like him to 318 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: r Jackson and Jake. This is the first I think 319 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: like full game of his I've gotten to watch this yere. 320 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: He does two things. One, it feels like they don't 321 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: let him run more than ten yards down the field, 322 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: Like he just isn't allowed to run routes the road 323 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: in ten yards down the field. And number two, he's 324 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: like old school Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt, where remember 325 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: they would catch it and then they would just kind 326 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: of like go down, yeah, yeah, yeah, just get down. 327 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: He goes to the ground after he catches the ball 328 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: immediately he does. 329 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: I noticed that last night too. 330 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: But they had a fun play. We need more downfield adterles. 331 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: They picked up a third and fifteen, they threw a 332 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: little cross to him on the right side of some 333 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: guys blocking and then he swung it out to sharp 334 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: and a like an overhand pass to pick up a 335 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: first down. That was a great play, and the Lions 336 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: did it the week before for a touchdown. 337 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: I honestly don't know, Like we use it in youth 338 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: football all the time, and I know you hardly ever 339 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: see it in the NFL. It's it's it's pretty easy 340 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: to execute. 341 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: It feels like it because everybody pursues to the ball 342 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: so hard. 343 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: And then yeah, it's there. I don't know. I don't know. 344 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: And Jameson Williams the speed on that seventy yard touchdown, 345 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: he started kind of celebratory running. I'll call it on 346 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: the thirty Yeah, and nobody came close to catching No. 347 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: Goff had a great line about him postgame where he said, 348 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: every single defense is worried about him. Always Yes of that, 349 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: because that's why I'm run threat. And that's what he's 350 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: finally three years in the making twelve targets. It's not 351 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: that it's the thread of it. He was only two 352 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: last night. He caught them both, But it's the thread 353 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: of it that opens everything else up. 354 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: He has thirteen catches for two hundred and eighty nine yards, 355 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: two touchdowns. He's averaging twenty two point two yards per catch. 356 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: He's on pace for a twelve hundred and twenty eight 357 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: yard season. I mean, yeah, like the dude he's this 358 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: is what they drafted him to be. I mean, people, 359 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: I think forget that he was, you know, the twelfth 360 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: overall pick in the draft. 361 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: And that was coming up with a broken leg, right, Like, 362 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: it's not like he was healthy at the time of 363 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: the draft. He didn't even do the combine. 364 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: He's only got thirteen catches, which is tied for sixty 365 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: ninth in the league, and he's eleventh with two hundred 366 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: and eighty nine yards. 367 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Well, when he was there, when he 368 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: was at Ohio State before he transferred to Alabama, and 369 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: you talk to Heartline about this, and that's when Garrett 370 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: was there and Alave was there and Smith and Jigbu 371 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: was there and they would say the most overall talented 372 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: is James was like he was the one that had 373 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: the most talent, but he just had all sorts of 374 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: stuff between his ears that kept getting in his way 375 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: and those guys were ahead of him and they were pros, 376 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: and so that's why. But then he went to Bama 377 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: and he was an all timer at Bama in one year. 378 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: So that's how that works. This is a fun team. 379 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: Detroit is very very fund is. DLD is living brothers. Yes, 380 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: the uniforms looked great. Oh god, DLD is living. We're 381 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 2: living our best life down there up there, it really is. 382 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: DLD is just absolutely thriving. Dan Campbell did not give 383 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: a game ball to Jared Goff, and by the fact 384 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: that he was, he was perfect. 385 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: He's upset about it that he was. 386 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: Here's Dan on that. 387 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 5: No, well, I just gave a game ball to somebody else. 388 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: Feel awful right now? 389 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 6: Yeah? 390 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 5: No, I well, I knew he played a heck of 391 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 5: a game. I did not realize he was perfect. I 392 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 5: did not know he was literally eighteen for eighteen I 393 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 5: mean that, But but I knew he played really well. 394 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 5: You could feel it. 395 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: That's classic. You know what else is classic? The amount 396 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: of scrap heap quarterbacks and GoF isn't exactly that. But 397 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: he was traded. They didn't think they could win at 398 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: the high even help with him. Probably one of those 399 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: trades who worked for everybody. Yep, they won rams one 400 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: everbody wins, but the opposing teams quarterbacks. You know, Smith 401 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: has certainly been given up on with by teams Before 402 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: Sam Donald leads the NFL in passing. How many teams 403 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: gave up on Sam Donald to at least the Jets 404 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: and Carolina And then he was with the Niners. He 405 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: was with the Niners and they liked him, yeah, but 406 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: he wasn't going to play there or start. They drafted 407 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy to play, and I'm you know, they're playing 408 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 2: well with Donald, but it's not like that was their intent. 409 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: They were gonna go with McCarthy from day one, so 410 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: they weren't even crazy about him. Leads it. Bake's in 411 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: the top five. I mean, just look at the at 412 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: the the guys who are the quarterbacks who are in 413 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: the top ten or so in the league, and it's 414 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: so many guys who are second chance guys, guys who 415 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: are scrap heap guys. Third, Bake was four teams. Yeah, 416 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's crazy all the way down. 417 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: And then it's rookies. I mean, it's just Jayden Daniel's. 418 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: Been absolutely sensational. Obviously, what's his rating, his rating. Jayden's 419 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: rating is third in the league one oh seven point four, 420 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: so it goes Sam Darnold's one eighteen point nine. Josh 421 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 2: Allen won sixteen point five, then Jaden, then Bake Flacco, 422 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: but he only he's only played, you know, kind of 423 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: just the one game, so his isn't complete. Then Burrow, 424 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: Perdy Murray, Derek Carr another scrap heap, Lamar Jackson, and 425 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: then Andy Dalton is third on that list, and then 426 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: it's Justin Field's a scrap heap, Jared's goff. I mean, 427 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: there's a ton of those guys that are just second 428 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: chance for you type guys. So balth obviously Detroit is 429 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: very very fun. 430 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: Oh man, fun, beautiful uniforms, pure joy. Yeah, there's no 431 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: doubt it is. We were texting last night. That is 432 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: a fun, fun team. 433 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: YEP. 434 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: I think they're they're gonna be pretty darn They're gonna 435 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: be good. 436 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: They're gonna be I think the NFC is wide open 437 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: because San Francisco is so battered, so battered. Philly is 438 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: not much at all, really struggling Dallas is if no wonder. 439 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: If there is a coaching change coming in Philly. I 440 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: mean you go back to hear they have not won 441 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: many games. 442 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, and we're completely gutless down in Tampa Bay. 443 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay may be the best team in the NFC 444 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: with Minnesota. At the moment. I still like Green Bay 445 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: a lot. 446 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: So hard to explain how they got smoked by Denver at. 447 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: Home it is, but then Denver's defense goes and I 448 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: mean they had negative passing yards in the third quarter 449 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: and beat the Jets. Crazy, So I don't know the 450 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: league is crazy. It truly is on a week to 451 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: week basis. God bless you, all right. The passing of 452 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: Pete Rose, yep, You and I and Gibbe are of 453 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: an age where for us and if you're a man, 454 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: you're forty or older. For most of my life, Pete 455 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: Rose was omnipresent yep. As a kid. In nineteen eighty five, 456 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 2: my mom got me a subscription to Sports Illustrated as 457 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: a birthday gift, and it was something I cherished. It 458 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: was my view into the national sports world, and Pete 459 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: was on the cover Sports Illustrated a lot. Pete's not 460 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: just for what he did as a at that point 461 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: would have been as a manager, But then you would 462 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: get him on the cover for he shoved an umpire 463 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 2: in like eighty eight, and then in eighty nine he was. 464 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: Banned, and yeah he was. 465 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: And so he was somebody as a kid who I 466 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: was aware of because of the head first slide, and 467 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: the baseball coaches I had would say, what do you 468 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: think you are Pete Rose. I'm like, I don't know, 469 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: this seems efficient to do this as a kid, to 470 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: just lean that feels better then the other way. But 471 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: it was the Pete Rose slide, and no coaches wanted 472 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: you to do it, and you had to go feet first. 473 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: You're gonna get hurt if you go hands first, so forth, 474 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: so on. But it looked cool and so cool looks 475 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: really cool. And so there was that part of it, 476 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: and it was the Charlie Hustle part of it in 477 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: the Big Red Machine. I would not old enough to 478 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: remember any of that or him as a player really 479 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: at all, but it was the other stuff. It was 480 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: the managerial stuff and then him being banned, and then 481 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: from there he became this In sports talk radio when 482 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: I first got into it in the early twenty tens, 483 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: if you were on sports talk radio in June and 484 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: you didn't have anything, is say, should Pete Rose be 485 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame? And you had light them 486 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: up weeks, light them up full lines, and you could 487 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: do an hour. You could do three hours on that 488 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: at any point. And at that I was down in 489 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: Columbus only at that point, and I would do that sometimes. 490 00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: What's that, We'll get to that. So it was one 491 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: of those things where he was omnipresent in that part 492 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: of it. So you had him, you had what he did, 493 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: you had the investigations into it, and then you had 494 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: this forever debate. Remember him and Jim Gray when they 495 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: honored at the All Star Game or the World Series 496 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: when they honored like the greatest team ever, and he 497 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: was in it. Jim Gray's trying to press him on 498 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: if we admit it now Pete. Anybody who read the 499 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: Doubt report knew he did it, and he finally admitted it. 500 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 2: In two thousand and four, I interviewed Zago's nemesis, Johnny Bench, 501 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 2: and no respect, no time for Johnny Bench. 502 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: But guy threw the ball out of a bunker. 503 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: I'm interviewing Johnny Bench and the only time that he 504 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: bristled was when I asked him about Pete and I 505 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: thought of it from his perspective afterwards, And I was young, 506 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: but I thought of it afterwards. I'm thinking, like, this 507 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: is Johnny Bleepin' bench, maybe the best catcher whoever lived, 508 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: And every time he talks to somebody has to get 509 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: asked about Pete Rose. How exhausting must that be that 510 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: you can't ever escape it, Like you're always getting asked 511 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: about it. And whether it was Morgan or Conceptsione or 512 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: Doggie Perez or all those guys, like they always were 513 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 2: asked about Pete like it was he forced it, and 514 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: he'd go to Cooperstown and sign autographs, You'd go to 515 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: Vegas and sign autographs. He'd pay for the autographs and 516 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: all that stuff. And so there was this weird history 517 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: to it. And then when he finally admitted a O four, 518 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: he kind of vaporized. Nobody talked about Pete anymore. He 519 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: was kind of gone, like I don't know for a 520 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 2: younger generation, I don't even know if until he up 521 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: until yesterday when the news came out that he died, Like, 522 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 2: what is their relationship with Pete Rose? Like your kids, no, no, no, no, 523 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: my kids, I'm talking g Man's guys in their twenties, 524 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: probably next to none. 525 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: Other than if they saw him as a as a 526 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: youth getting tombstone pile driven by Caine at various WrestleManias. 527 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: So there's that part of that. 528 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: There was that part of the San Diego Chicken once 529 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: where he would. 530 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: All of a sudden he was in the WWF. 531 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: I think it. He's in the Hall of Fame. 532 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: He's in the of course he is. McMahon puts him in. 533 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 2: That breaks all the sense in the world. So there's 534 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: that part of it. And he was on the television 535 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: broadcast around here. If you're old enough, you remember Ray 536 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: Fosse and what he did in the All Star Game 537 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: and the fact that FOSSi was never the same as 538 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: a player. 539 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: No ever do the A's games. When I was a kid, 540 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 3: he was the analyst. 541 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: There you go. I did not recall that Pete was 542 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: banned in eighty nine and nineteen ninety. The Reds with 543 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: Billy Hatcher hitting seven point fifty, swept the A's the 544 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: next year in the World Series. I didn't really I 545 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: know you, I didn't remember that World Series. Well, I 546 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 2: was rooting for your A's, but just from the standpoint 547 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: of like that that happened right next to each other chronologically. 548 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: Boys. 549 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a wild thing. And yet I'm left 550 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: with two things. He's probably got the best two nicknames 551 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: combination anyone could ever have. Charlie Hustle. 552 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hit King's good. Charlie Hustle's a little weird to me. 553 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what where it came from. 554 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 3: Why not Pete Hustle, I don't know. P D. 555 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: Hustle, I don't know. I think you have to have 556 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: the y on the end of it, But I don't 557 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: know why it was p. D. 558 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: Hustle. Sure, I don't know. 559 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: But he's Charlie Hustle and he's Hit King. He was 560 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: a Cincinnati kid, so there's some Bernie parallels to it 561 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 2: right where he's like hometown kid, makes right, probably more 562 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: popular there than anybody is in any town type of thing. 563 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: So there's that part of it as well. And then 564 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: statistically he has ninety five hits. Yes, so Pouholtz is 565 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: the most recent to go into the hall or at 566 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: the most recent to retire with a ton of hits. 567 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: And he's tenth all time with like thirty four hundred. Okay, 568 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: he's eight hundred hits behind Pete Rose. Yeah, the active 569 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: hit leader in Major League Baseball is Freddie Freeman. He 570 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: has twenty two hundred hits. He's thirty four years old. Yeah, 571 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: he's no chance it's going to be like the Cy 572 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: Young number, the five eleven. I mean, it'll never be anywhere, buddy, 573 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: within five hundred hits of it? 574 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: Don't you only get like five hundred and fifty at 575 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: bats maybe in a season? There you go, So you 576 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: do the math. He had three thirty three. Let's just 577 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 3: call it, well, five hundred and ten at bats as 578 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: a number, because it's an easy to get A third 579 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: of that's one hundred and seventy hits. Yep, ten years 580 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: of that is seventeen hundred, twenty years of that's only 581 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: thirty four hundred. 582 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: That's right now you start to see, So think about 583 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: how far out, Oh. 584 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: My goodness, they're there is second, might as well be eighth. Yeah, 585 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 3: there's that. That will never match. Nobody's gonna play that 586 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: long or be that good for that long. Again, I 587 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 3: don't see it. 588 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: What was your what do you like? I feel like 589 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: Zaga would have. 590 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: Liked him, Pete Rose. Yeah, Zago would have liked my 591 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: major I'm sure. Yeah, they all just thought it was ridiculate, Like, Okay, 592 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: come on, he should be he's a Hall of Famer. 593 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there. 594 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: Are a lot of people who feel like if there 595 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: was the best baseball game ever played, if you had 596 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: two teams, he's for sure on one of the teams. 597 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 598 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he used to. I remember, like one 599 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 3: of the first times that I was in Vegas, he 600 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: would and it happened actually multiple times I was there, 601 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 3: but he would always be at one of those memorabilia 602 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: shops signing. Always yep, yep. 603 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: That was his way. 604 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: I have something, I have some I have something Pete 605 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: Rose somewhere in my house. For sure. 606 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: He was. I think in a way he became more 607 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: known because of all of this than if it didn't happen, 608 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: Like if he had just gone in the Hall of 609 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: Fame on the first ballot like he normally would have, 610 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: I don't know that he would have been as known 611 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 2: as he is now, because once you go into the Hall, 612 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: you kind of disappear, really unless you're a bait, unless 613 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: you're like on the baseball coverage and you're part of 614 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: the baseball conversation. But like there's a lot of great players. 615 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: They go into the hall and then they're gone, They're vaporized. 616 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: And I think with him, he was top of mind 617 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: for years ago, twenty five years because of it. 618 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're I think that's a I think that's 619 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: a very valid point. By the way, speaking of Hall 620 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: of famers real quick, because it just popped into my 621 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: head when you said that. Did you see the video 622 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: of Alvin Johnson and DK Metcalf on the sideline? 623 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: I did. 624 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, so Calvin Johnson makes DK Metcalf look small 625 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: and it seems to be in every bit as good 626 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: as shape as DK Metcalf. 627 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, good time. When he rolled into the Hawks party, 628 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: he looked like last summer, he was a different different 629 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: from everyone. It's a different species, yeah, different breed. No, 630 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: he's that guy, so yeah. Rest in peace to the 631 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: hit King and Charlie Hustle eighty three years old. 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All right, we're. 646 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: Gonna start on the offensive side of the ball, as 647 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: we always do on after further review, and point number 648 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: one is going to be a positive point of our quarterback, 649 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: DeShawn Watson. And one of the things that really stood 650 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: out to me in this game was the way that 651 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson navigated the blitz and navigated pressure. This was 652 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: his best performance of the season against blitzes and against pressure. 653 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: Coming into the game, he had been around forty percent 654 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: completions three yards per attempt in a quarterback rating you know, 655 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: down in the thirties. When it came to the blitz 656 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: in this game, it was significantly better. And it would 657 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: be nice if our internet would work and I could 658 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: give you the exact numbers on that, but I know 659 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: it was better undefined. Here we go, loading, loading, loading, anyway, fine, 660 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: never mind. The fact of the fact of the matter 661 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: is he was significantly better against pressure and against blitzes 662 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: in particular. Why is this important? This is important for 663 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: a couple of reasons. The first is because teams are 664 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: going to continue to blitz the Browns and twist and 665 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: stunt the Browns until it proves that the line is 666 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: able to deal with it. And the only way to 667 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: get them to back off of these things is to 668 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: have success. And I thought this was a step in 669 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: the right direction for him. A couple other things he 670 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: threw with anticipation this game. There were still some throws 671 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 3: you can go back. You can watch the second play 672 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 3: the game. He had a Marii Cooper over the middle 673 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: that I think he could have ripped it. But for 674 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: the most part the ball was out on time. He 675 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: did throw with some anticipation. He made some good throws, 676 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: took what was there. And then also I thought he 677 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: was very good in the pocket in terms of how 678 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: he navigated and when he chose to run, when he 679 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: chose to stay there. All of those things I thought 680 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: were very positive. So this was a good Deshaun Watson game. 681 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: This was Pro Football Focus's grade of him. This was 682 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: the highest grade that they have given him in a 683 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 3: game since he was a Houston Texan. So again, we 684 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 3: don't know. It's not necessarily at least it's an apples 685 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: to apples thing that they saw what a lot of 686 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: us saw, which was that he played a very good 687 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: game in this one. Now here are the numbers when 688 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: he was blitzed in this game. He was eight for ten, 689 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 3: eighty percent completions quarterback rating of eighty six point three. 690 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: That is so helpful to dealing with the pressure that's 691 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: gonna come because if you were able to handle that, 692 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: it just allows you to have much more success going forward. 693 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: Brown still need to get better off a play action 694 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: hit some more of their shot plays, but nonetheless that 695 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: was a good step in the right direction. So that's 696 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 3: that's number one right there. 697 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: Further review. 698 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 3: Number two on the offense is it's gonna be all 699 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: about Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy has been phenomenal for the 700 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns and really looks like a true number one receiver. 701 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: He has played well. We know Amari is struggling with 702 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: the drops and had that catastrophic one that turned a 703 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: catch into really a twenty five yard gain, turned it 704 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: into an interception. But Judy has been very good in 705 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: terms of what he has done. They've used him inside, 706 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: they've used him outside. He has been effective both inside 707 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: and outside, and right now you know when he's targeted, 708 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 3: he has had the most success of any receiver on 709 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: our team. And so I like that. You made a 710 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: trade for him, You made an investment in him as well, 711 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: and he's living up to that investment. So I thought 712 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: he did a very good job. 713 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 4: After further review, a. 714 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: Little quick on the offense this week, because you know, 715 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: you only score ten points, so there wasn't a ton 716 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: that was good. But got to give a shout out 717 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: to Blake Whiteheart. Blake Whitehart had not caught a pass. 718 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: Blakewhart had not been targeted in the NFL before this game, 719 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: and he goes out there and he has not only 720 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: a solid game, he did a good job as a blocker, 721 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 3: but caught all three of his targets for thirteen yards 722 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 3: and a touchdown. Had another catch that was wiped off 723 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 3: during out due to penalty. But you gotta be happy 724 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 3: for the kid, you know, able to get his first 725 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: career touchdown in the National Football League. That's a pretty 726 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 3: exciting thing. He's a demon deacon in the mold of 727 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: the great. Tim Duncan was an undrafted free agent with 728 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: Arizona in twenty twenty three and now is actually getting 729 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 3: some opportunities, and I'm just I'm very happy for him. 730 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: That is that's a very cool thing to get to do, 731 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 3: is to catch your pass and score touchdown the NFL. 732 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: So congrats to Blake Whiteheart. All Right, defense further review, 733 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: misstackles are becoming a massive problem for this team and 734 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: it needs to be cleaned up. Twelve misstackles in this game, 735 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 3: eleven the week before, and too often when you go 736 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 3: back and watch it, it's the result of something Joe 737 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 3: thomasock about. Miles Garrett even talked about it postgame. It 738 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 3: is the result of the first tackler not hitting and 739 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 3: wrapping up and stopping the momentum. The first hitter is 740 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 3: coming in trying to shoulder him and hit like this boom, 741 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: hit yep, and they're bouncing right off of it and 742 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 3: getting first yards. The first guy's got to stop him, 743 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 3: and then you can come in and try to clean 744 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 3: it up. But we've got to wrap up and tackle 745 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: and not allow this team to do what it is 746 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: doing in terms of missing so many tackles, and other 747 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 3: teams what they're doing in terms of breaking tackles, getting 748 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: yards after contact. The Browns are allowing to almost two 749 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 3: point three yards after contact per carry. That's the worst 750 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 3: in the NFL. There are too many important things that 751 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 3: the Browns are worse than the NFL in and that 752 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: certainly is one of them. It's about blocking and tackling, 753 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 3: most sacks, most yards after contact, blocking tackling after further review, 754 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: all right, this is becoming a little bit more of 755 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 3: an interesting trend and not one that I love. Week one, 756 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett had three of our seven total pressures. Miles 757 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 3: Garrett had three of our seventeen total pressures. You feel 758 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: that's good balance, people moving it around. Week three, Miles 759 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: Garrett had nine of our twenty eight total pressures. Good 760 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: again this week. Not as good. Week four Miles Garrett 761 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: had five of our ten pressures. So two weeks he's 762 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: basically accounted for half of the pressure himself. He needs 763 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 3: help getting after the quarterback and we need guys to 764 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 3: step up. Nobody else had one pressure infect on the 765 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 3: defensive line in this game. Only Dalvin Tomlinson, Quentin Jefferson 766 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 3: and Shelby Hair, who continues to play well. By the way, 767 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: We're able to generate a single pressure in this game. 768 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: Zadarius has two sacks on the season, but it's kind 769 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 3: of sometimes sacks are misleading. Last year it was misleading 770 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 3: that he didn't have as many sacks he did because 771 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: he was so good at generating pressure. This year, he's 772 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 3: got four pressures, two of which resulted in sacks. We 773 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 3: need more consistent pressure off the edge from Zadarius, from Obo, 774 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 3: from Alex Right, all of those guys. So that's too 775 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 3: And then the final after further review, I could go 776 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: with not a great game for our secondary. You know, 777 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 3: some too much off coverage at times. I thought our 778 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: safeties in particular Rodney McLeod and Ronnie Hickman were out 779 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 3: of position at times and mistackles and misplays that they 780 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: should have made. But I'm going to focus on a positive. Obviously, 781 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people talking about the draft classes. Isaiah 782 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: McGuire is starting to really show something for you, Isaiah 783 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 3: McGuire in this game. Not only did he have that 784 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: big tackle on the sideline, but he is the reason 785 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 3: we got the scoop and score fumble touchdown. Isaiah McGuire, 786 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 3: beat the tackle, got up the field, got his left 787 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 3: hand on the football, Joka came in, The football is 788 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 3: already moving. When Joka hits him, the football comes out. 789 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 3: So Isaiah McGuire showing you know, some signs of life. 790 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: That was very good. And he did a great job 791 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: setting the edge throughout this game. And so that's not 792 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 3: something that shows up necessarily in the stat sheet or 793 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 3: any of that. But you know, you're talking about a 794 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 3: guy a tackle for a loss and a forced fumble. 795 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 3: You'll take that. That's good. That's good stuff there. So 796 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 3: we need more of that. But that was a nice 797 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: thing to see. 798 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: You mentioned the pressures lack thereof. I you and I 799 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: have not talked about this off air, but is there 800 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: any sense on my call? It's kind of I mean 801 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: we're talking no, no, no, I mean talking like, where. 802 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 3: Has he been? 803 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 2: He's basically already suspended for four games. He's been suspended 804 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: for four games. There's no you have no idea like. 805 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 3: It's crazy and the charges are on. 806 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and there's no I don't know. That's a 807 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: strange one to me, Like we're a month in. 808 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 3: Do we know of this happening with anybody else in 809 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: the league where they're just commissioners listed and just kind 810 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 3: of suspended without being suspended. 811 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: Forever, like open ended suspension forever, I guess is what 812 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: it's been. But when you mentioned the pressures, I was 813 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 2: thinking to myself, well, that defensive line, why is it 814 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 2: not happening? And not to say that he would fix 815 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: all of this, but he was someone who was shining 816 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 2: early on in camp and was gonna and that's what 817 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 2: he does. He knips in and he creates the pressure 818 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: up the middle. And he's just been out for a month. 819 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's strange with no, it doesn't feel like any 820 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: end in sight. I don't understand it. I don't get it. 821 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 2: I don't either. No, there's no as far as I know. 822 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: Maybe there's stuff that's happening at the high highest levels 823 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 2: of the organization, but as far as we know and 824 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: as far as what's been reported, I haven't heard anybody 825 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: saying like there's an inclination of when it would end 826 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: or how long it will go. 827 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 3: No, there's somebody saying anything. 828 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: I've heard nothing on it. I've heard nothing, So we'll see. 829 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: Good job out of you. Jerry Judy, who has been 830 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: one of the highlights on this uh through this season, 831 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 2: already met with the media. 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You now head to 841 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 2: the podium presented by Vivid Seats purchase your official fan 842 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: Experience Package day for the ultimate game Day, it is 843 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy at the podium. 844 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 7: Hey, Jerry, talk to you yesterday after the game about 845 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 7: you know, you know what maybe the Raiders did differently, 846 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 7: you know, the second half compared to the first half 847 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 7: when you went back and watched the film, was there 848 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 7: anything that you saw that sort of in the moment. 849 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 7: You know, maybe it wasn't there that that was there, 850 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 7: you know on second watch. 851 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 4: I mean what was the question again? I mean what 852 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 4: did the film say? 853 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 7: But when you watch the film, what did you see 854 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 7: that that that you know? Where do you feel like this, 855 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 7: this this offense needs the biggest, you know, the biggest 856 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 7: fixes in order to be it's fully functional. 857 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 8: Self, I think we just gotta all I think collectively 858 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 8: as a unit, just all got to be at the 859 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 8: same page at the same time. That's the biggest thing 860 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 8: for real. I think all the leven of us just 861 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 8: got to go on the same page. I think that's 862 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 8: the biggest thing real, you know, because as an offense, 863 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 8: as a group, you know, if one person one person 864 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 8: messed up, you know, the whole play mess up. So 865 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 8: I think I just do better collective, collectively and just 866 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 8: being on the same page. 867 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, Jerry, just wondering what would that look like during 868 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 9: the practice week if you are trying to get on 869 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 9: the same page with each other in a hurry before 870 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 9: you head to Washington. What can you guys do as 871 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 9: the eleven guys on offense? Do you sit in a 872 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 9: film room together. Do you have a meeting? How do 873 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 9: you change it up? 874 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 8: Each Each individual just need individual just need to focus 875 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 8: on their details and their assignment and their execution on 876 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 8: the play that's given. 877 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 4: That's how we that's how we stay together. 878 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 8: That's how all eleven be on the same page by 879 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 8: this focusing on your details, your assignment, your execution, and 880 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 8: that's how that's how plays work and how you become 881 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 8: a great offense. 882 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 9: And do you think you I'm sorry? Will you do 883 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 9: anything else to yourself this week? Will you watch a 884 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 9: little extra film, spend a little extra time with Deshaun? 885 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 9: Is there anything that you will do? Uh to make 886 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 9: sure that you're going above and beyond the call of duty? 887 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 8: Yes, you know there was some places out there last week. 888 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 8: I felt like I was kind of tired, you know. 889 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 8: So this week I'm just gonna probably run a little 890 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 8: bit more after practice and just make sure I get 891 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 8: my condition in there, because I was kind of fatigued 892 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 8: on certain plays that that I needed to be out there, 893 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:10,959 Speaker 8: but I. 894 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 4: Wasn't due to how tired I was. 895 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 8: So that that's what I'm gonna work on to make 896 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 8: sure I'm the best version of myself going in this week. 897 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 10: Hey, Jerry, when you went back and watch a film, 898 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 10: what did you see on that last fourth down play? 899 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,479 Speaker 8: You know they played man coverage. Uh, I think the DV. 900 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 8: The dv's kind of messed up the coverage on on 901 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 8: the left side of the field. Uh. You know that 902 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 8: was the read. It was cool to the corner, but 903 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 8: the DV kind of messed up the look. So it 904 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 8: kind of like messed up our player in a way. 905 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 4: It kind of. 906 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 8: You know, and I'm gonna try to make a play, 907 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 8: kind of get the ball off, That's what I say. 908 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 10: And with the Sean you might know, you guys, he's 909 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 10: a captain. You guys you know talk about him as 910 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 10: being a leader. I felt like yesterday he was more 911 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 10: vocal about it. You know, he said something to Duane 912 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 10: and I saw him say something to Jerome after one play. 913 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 10: Do you sinse that that he's trying to be more 914 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,959 Speaker 10: vocal or maybe the frustrations get into him. 915 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 4: A little bit. 916 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 8: Oh No, I mean I just feel like he's just 917 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 8: speaking his mind. You know, you got a whole people 918 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 8: to uh a standard, and you know when you don't, 919 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 8: when you don't play it to that standard, you know, 920 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 8: you gotta speak up and let let it be known. 921 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 8: You know, I just think that that what he was doing, 922 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 8: just telling, telling, telling his teammate that we need to 923 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 8: be better on his play. 924 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 6: That's it, Yeah, Jerry, I know Kevin. 925 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 11: You know scripts the early part of the game, and 926 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 11: you guys have done such a great job getting off 927 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 11: to a good starts running those scripts. So what what 928 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 11: do you think is happening? You know, once that scripted 929 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 11: portion of the game, uh has expired and you just 930 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 11: kind of get into the flow. Why are you guys 931 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 11: struggling to find that same rhythm that you have on 932 00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 11: that opening drive. 933 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 8: I think our apentities, you know, I feel like we 934 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 8: got a lot of pentedies that that we need to 935 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 8: do better on that really help, really hurting us. So 936 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 8: we can't be backed up on first and fifteen and 937 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 8: second and fifteen thirty fifteen. That's not an area that 938 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 8: we want to be in the call plays. And so 939 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 8: I feel like, once we eliminate those self inflicted wounds, 940 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 8: well we'll be way better than than. 941 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 4: Where we are. 942 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 11: And I want to go back to the being on 943 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 11: the same page thing, because you're not the first on 944 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 11: your side of the ball to talk about that in 945 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 11: these first four weeks. My question is, you know, why 946 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 11: has this become a thing, and like what is the 947 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 11: actual fix for it? It's easy to talk about we 948 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 11: need to do this or that, but what is the 949 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 11: actual fix? And you know, is this mostly because it's 950 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 11: a little bit of a new offense. 951 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 8: I mean, it could be that, you know, it's a 952 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 8: new offense for everybody in the building. But at the 953 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 8: same time, it's just to each individual person to really 954 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 8: focus on the assignment and details and the execution of 955 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 8: each place that's being called. You know, that's really the 956 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 8: biggest thing for real, just each person that's focused on 957 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 8: one player at the time and their execution. And that's 958 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 8: how we become a successful offer. Was everybody on it 959 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 8: just do that. That's what I mean when on the 960 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 8: same page as each individual just doing a job, job 961 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 8: correctly and their assignment. 962 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 12: Hey, Jerry, I know we talked a lot about asked 963 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 12: a lot about like what the offensive identity of this 964 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 12: team is or what you guys hope it to be. 965 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 12: I know, as you guys try to figure this out 966 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 12: early on, what do you think maybe the foundation is. 967 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 12: What are the things that are going well for you 968 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 12: guys that you can build the identity on if you 969 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 12: are still trying to kind of determine. 970 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 11: What it is. 971 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 8: I think we're starting off fast. I think that's one 972 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 8: of the biggest key things, starting momentum, you know. And 973 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 8: I think the other thing we just need to do 974 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 8: is finish, you know, finish how we start. 975 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 4: And I feel like we'll win a lot more games 976 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 4: if we do that. 977 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, Jared, I just want to ask you about just 978 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 10: being one in three, and I know your expectations are 979 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 10: much higher than that. So how are you guys dealing 980 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 10: with that as a group. 981 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 8: You know, we all we hate being having them losing record, 982 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 8: but you know, we know the season is still early. 983 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 8: You know, we still working tours to being a better 984 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 8: team and the best version of ourselves. So you know, 985 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 8: we understand like the records is the record. You know, 986 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 8: one to three, you know that's not good. But we 987 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 8: also a is not pannicing and we're just gonna keep 988 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 8: grinding and put our head down and keep working. 989 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 4: That's all we could do. 990 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 2: All right, There you go, Jerry Judy from the podium 991 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 2: coming up next second hour of the program, get your 992 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 2: four downs. Also one thought from every NFL game and 993 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: Andrew Siciliano joining the program as well. 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James B. Beams Still 1004 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: in company, Claremont, Kentucky Drink Smart Hour two of the program. 1005 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 2: Time for one thought on every NFL game. Hello gibbe, Hi, 1006 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 2: How true or false it was you running from the 1007 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 2: cops at Bowling Green this weekend? 1008 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 3: False? 1009 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 6: I did get a good laugh as far. I sent 1010 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 6: that to a former roommate of mine and I got 1011 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 6: into a little bit of a pickle one night. Actually, 1012 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:06,879 Speaker 6: you ran the wrong direction. You got to go into 1013 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 6: the neighborhood. Go into the neighborhood because you're on the 1014 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 6: main street, you're getting your screwed. Yeah. If you go 1015 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 6: the other direction, there are you can hide under a porch, 1016 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 6: you can hide. Maybe you fall into a hole. Maybe 1017 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 6: that happened once. Uh, I can't say it didn't. Yeah, 1018 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 6: well it did. 1019 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 2: I was like you and my brother in law he 1020 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 2: went to bowling Green too, and I sent it to 1021 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 2: him and he said the only thing that stopped him 1022 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:34,400 Speaker 2: was he got sick. 1023 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 6: Did He did the same thing, but he threw up, 1024 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 6: and so that's. 1025 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 2: Why he got caught. 1026 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's uh. The party that I formally was, yeah, 1027 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 6: spent some time and some time like a few hours 1028 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 6: in a holding cell and then had to go to court. 1029 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 6: The party that I threw my roommates and I there 1030 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 6: were four like separate little like places inside this big house. 1031 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 6: We walked outside and it was like midnight and there's 1032 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 6: a helicopter. There was a lot going on, and some 1033 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 6: officer comes running up. It's like you guys live here. 1034 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 6: We're like nope, but some guys in the front and 1035 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 6: we walked to the bars. Well, when we came back, 1036 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 6: like they were all like Indian style on the sidewalk 1037 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 6: and like there's the rest of them, no one. I 1038 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 6: saw the one officer and he was like, wait a minute. 1039 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 6: I was like, you know you're sick. They're going to 1040 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 6: remember you. 1041 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1042 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 6: Fine, I had a few hours of freedom. 1043 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 3: That's great. 1044 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 6: Uh yeah, no, dude, you ran the wrong way. I 1045 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 6: don't know what he did. I hope it wasn't anything serious. 1046 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 6: I hope it was just some college frivolity that got 1047 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 6: out of hand. But uh, yeah, you went the wrong way. 1048 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 6: That was funny though. I got a good laugh out 1049 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 6: of that. 1050 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 3: He had a good pace to him. 1051 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 2: Wasn't sprinting. You knew he had a long way to go, 1052 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 2: so the pace was good. Yeah. 1053 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, the officers on foot, we're going to have a 1054 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 6: trouble keeping up. But then the car comes out of 1055 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 6: nowhere and I'm like, oh, you're dead. You're done. Like 1056 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 6: he's doing fifty down that street. Pell Street is a 1057 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 6: twenty five to thirty at best. Yeah, I'm like, he's 1058 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 6: got he's got you. Unless you're going into it, jumping 1059 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 6: into a bar or running through something, you're you're done. 1060 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 6: So I don't know. Maybe you're still in jail. 1061 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not. 1062 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 6: It's Tuesday, you should be out by Yeah, Monday, you 1063 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 6: know Monday, everybody's back in the building and you can 1064 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:26,760 Speaker 6: get released. 1065 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 2: There you go. 1066 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 6: So a little one thought from every NFL game in 1067 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 6: Week four of the National Football League, gentlemen, shall we 1068 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 6: we kick things off in the NFC South? The Falcons gutless, 1069 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 6: no more? Twenty six Saints, twenty four Saints back to 1070 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 6: two and two Falcons two and two? 1071 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 3: Is the girl? 1072 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 6: One thought? 1073 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 3: Two things, and I'll take the Saints out of this. 1074 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 3: Number one. The rumors of Alvin Kamara's demise, how about that, 1075 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 3: we're greatly exaggerated. He's currently on pace to have have 1076 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 3: twenty three hundred total yards and twenty five touchdowns right now. 1077 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 3: He is in the league. It's unbelievable. He's fourth in 1078 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 3: rushing yards, second carries, first in touchdowns average and four 1079 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,879 Speaker 3: and a half yards of carry. He already also has 1080 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 3: seventeen catches for one hundred and seventy four yards and 1081 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 3: a touchdown. That might not make him our leading receiver, 1082 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 3: but it would be pretty close on the Cleveland Browns 1083 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 3: right now. So that was number one, Number two, and 1084 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 3: I know it's one thing, but this is a very 1085 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 3: quick thing. I was in the food area when they 1086 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,240 Speaker 3: had they being the Saints. They had like a fourth 1087 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 3: and goal in the fourth quarter and Carr missed the 1088 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,959 Speaker 3: throw as a tough throw but missed the throw, and 1089 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 3: all the Raiders people that were like, we've seen that 1090 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 3: a billion times, like geez Louise, like car was pretty 1091 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 3: good for you guys. He was, Yeah, So I thought 1092 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 3: that was that was funny, But that's Alvin Kamara has 1093 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 3: been a wrecking crew. Taysom Hill had a nice game 1094 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 3: before getting hurt. He had two rushing touchdowns. But the 1095 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 3: Saints are they Saints are tough, but that was a 1096 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 3: that was one that they probably feel like they should 1097 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 3: have won. 1098 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 2: On the Atlanta side of it, I just think it's 1099 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 2: stupefying that Kirk Cousins doesn't throw the ball to Kyle Pitts. 1100 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 2: Pitts said nothing in the. 1101 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 3: Three targets, and they were all slants split out to 1102 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 3: the left. 1103 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 2: So strange. 1104 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 3: They were the same right. 1105 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 2: Just don't they don't get him involved. They're not into it. 1106 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 2: They used an eighth the eighth overall on him and 1107 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 2: the eighth overall on Bijeon. Bijon had seven carries in 1108 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 2: the game. He had four targets. That's eleven total targets. 1109 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 2: That means a total of fourteen targets to two guys 1110 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 2: you picked in back to back drafts with the eighth 1111 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 2: overall pick, and you picked eighth in this draft. You 1112 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 2: draft a quarterback who was not playing so like, very 1113 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 2: formidable team. Imagine if they actually deployed their picks appropriately. 1114 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, though, Tyler Aljeer in this very 1115 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 3: same game had ten touches for eighty yards and Tyler 1116 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 3: als is my point, like they never needed to draft 1117 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 3: be That's exactly my point. 1118 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 2: They didn't need to draft him. I don't know why 1119 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 2: they're not using pits. That's very strange. They're just not 1120 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,919 Speaker 2: what I thought they would be. No, and I don't 1121 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 2: know why. Fine, but they're not what I thought they 1122 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 2: would be. 1123 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 3: Aljier, if I'm not mistaken, was a fifth round pick 1124 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two out of BYU and his rookie year, 1125 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 3: the guy ran for one thousand and thirty five yards 1126 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 3: average five yards a year, talked about and then they 1127 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 3: picked on the very what he's doing. 1128 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 2: You already have that guy. 1129 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 3: That's why I say, how much better are you going 1130 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:21,360 Speaker 3: to be? 1131 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 2: You're not so like, I don't know that It's a 1132 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 2: lot of what ifs with them because they really could 1133 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 2: have been set up. They're still good, they are, but 1134 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 2: they're not they're not a serious furation. 1135 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 3: Put instead of in this draft, instead of Michael Pennox, 1136 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 3: if they drafted Roma Dunsa and now you're talking about 1137 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 3: London and a Dounsay and Pitts, and I just think 1138 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 3: they'd be a completely different team. 1139 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,280 Speaker 6: Up next, the Bears go to two and oher at home. 1140 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,879 Speaker 6: They improved it two and two on the season, where 1141 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 6: they twenty four to eighteen win over the injury riddled 1142 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 6: Los Angeles Rams. The Rams now zero to three on 1143 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 6: the road here in twenty twenty four. 1144 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 2: Bo One thought, from you, Yeah, I think for Chicago 1145 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 2: they're starting to get a they're starting to get all 1146 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 2: on the same page. Caleb made a great throw for 1147 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 2: a touchdown to DJ Moore to DJ that was really 1148 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 2: nice where he kind of waited on it and made 1149 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 2: it happen. And you're starting to see that come a 1150 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 2: little bit. Meantime, their defense is really good, yes, and 1151 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 2: so that is they're playing very good, complimentary football. To 1152 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 2: get a young quarterback up to speed, I know he 1153 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 2: does not have the start that Jayden Daniels has but 1154 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,439 Speaker 2: you are seeing signs in the last couple of weeks 1155 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 2: for three to sixty against Ago, two weeks ago against Indy, 1156 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 2: and so you're starting to see some signs a little 1157 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 2: bit with Chicago. 1158 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, how about DeAndre Swift was terrible the first three weeks, 1159 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,919 Speaker 3: and I guarantee he was on every fantasy owner's bench 1160 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 3: because they said, oh, Rashaan Johnson's going to be the guy. 1161 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 3: How does DeAndre Swift respond? Sixteen carries, ninety three yards 1162 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,240 Speaker 3: and a touchdown, seven catches, seventy two yards one hundred 1163 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 3: and sixty five total in a touchdown on twenty three touches. 1164 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 2: He must just be a jerk. 1165 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 3: Why he wasn't on the bench to play against me? Wow, 1166 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 3: because he doesn't get it. 1167 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to give him touch nobody lets him be 1168 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 2: the featured back. It was in Detroit, it's in Philly 1169 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 2: like their affiliate he was. They just didn't want to pay. 1170 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 2: They like, we don't want to pay him, we are good, 1171 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 2: go ahead, good riddance. Yeah, And it's like, I, I 1172 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 2: don't know. You could ask Deuce, Yeah, Deuce would know. 1173 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a punk. That's the only thing I 1174 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 2: can think. 1175 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 3: Of, because Hu's had the hard knocks with him where 1176 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 3: he was like, you could be a thousand and a thousand. 1177 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he Yeah, no one wants to trust him. 1178 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 6: Next up, gentlemen, Uh, A good one in the early 1179 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 6: window on Sunday, Vikings thirty one Packers twenty nine. Interesting 1180 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 6: as Jordan Love returns. 1181 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 1182 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 6: Packers fall to two and two, but oh to two 1183 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 6: in that conference that conference record for the tiebreaker points. 1184 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 6: Not a great start from and two with Jordan Love correct? 1185 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 6: Is the girl one thought this game on the top 1186 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 6: of the thought, you. 1187 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 3: Just was not as close as the final score appeared. 1188 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 3: It was, you know, twenty eight to seven going into 1189 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter and it ends up thirty one to 1190 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 3: twenty nine. Love obviously was able to really stack the 1191 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 3: stat sheet there. Justin Jefferson remains amazing. Aaron Jones has 1192 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 3: been very good for this football team. Donald throws three 1193 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,959 Speaker 3: more touchdowns. He's been great. This one though, had one 1194 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 3: thing that I've never I don't recall ever seeing before, 1195 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 3: and I don't know if you guys have either. The 1196 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 3: Packers were down I think around like the one yard line, 1197 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 3: and Laflour tried to call a time out. They didn't 1198 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 3: give it too many. Threw his headset yep, and they 1199 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 3: threw a flag on him and penalized them. 1200 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 2: Fifty yards and he went boom, crashed out as the kids. 1201 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 2: As the kids, he went nuclear, and it felt pretty justified. 1202 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 2: And that's now you're taking him from the one to 1203 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 2: the sixteen. It was Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, that 1204 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: that was a big problem. This was this was one 1205 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 2: that that I definitely got wrong in the picks. From 1206 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 2: the perspective of Green Bay and the way they're coached 1207 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 2: in the and as prepared as they are, I think 1208 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 2: they would have been better off with Malik Willis. I 1209 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 2: don't I understand why you got to get love back 1210 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 2: from the big picture. But one more week out of Willis, 1211 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 2: I think they maybe have a way to win that 1212 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 2: game in just playing the way that they were playing. 1213 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 2: Give full credit to Kevin O'Connell though, for what he 1214 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 2: and Sam Darnold are doing together, because they're seeing the 1215 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 2: field the same way. Donald's a study, a stud in 1216 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 2: this offense just is what it is. He's a month 1217 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 2: in Jefferson, he is, and Addison is back and he 1218 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 2: was good. They got weapons, but like the idea that 1219 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 2: they were here on that Monday and they got the 1220 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 2: news about McCarthy and he thought, my god, what's the 1221 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 2: point of the season. And now, all of a sudden, 1222 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 2: the one of two undefeated teams and Donald looks great. 1223 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty impressive how far they've come since 1224 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 6: that week in August. Yeah, when we went up against him. 1225 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 6: By the way, Brian Flores might get another head coaching 1226 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 6: opportunity because of this. 1227 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe get mean. 1228 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 6: That defense is pretty darn good. Up next, Colts, the 1229 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 6: Fighting Yellowstones. Drew, thank you appreciate your help. This week, 1230 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 6: the Yellowstones take down the Squealers twenty seven to twenty four. 1231 00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 6: Flacco fever. 1232 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 2: Bobbishop One thought, yeah, I'll take the Pittsburgh side of 1233 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 2: it because I think in an odd way they actually 1234 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 2: win in a loss. And the reason I say that 1235 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 2: is everything that could go wrong did Uh. They had 1236 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,959 Speaker 2: a crazy turnover with Pickens where he reached the ball 1237 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,959 Speaker 2: out and then he recovered it inside the ten. Justin 1238 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 2: Fields fumbled on in a just a ridiculous way. I 1239 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 2: took a late sack that pushed him back past the fifty, 1240 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 2: and yet they still were in it to win it. 1241 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 2: And still could have made it very interesting until the 1242 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 2: very last minute. And the big reason that I'm talking 1243 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 2: about Pittsburgh is because they have a quarterback. And Tomlin 1244 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 2: talked about it today. He still won't acknowledge that he's 1245 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 2: the starter, but he says it's possible now that that 1246 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 2: could be the reality as they ease Russell Wilson back. Well, 1247 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 2: he is, he's the starter. They now have a guy 1248 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 2: that they can work with long term. They have resuscitated 1249 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,439 Speaker 2: his career. He's resuscitated his career. It's the entire reason 1250 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: we didn't want him here, and you and I were 1251 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 2: talking about it all off season. This was the one 1252 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 2: place we didn't want him to go, and yet we 1253 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,880 Speaker 2: knew he would go there, and we knew that their 1254 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 2: stability would help him. 1255 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 13: And it has. 1256 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, he's looked good good. I'll take the 1257 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 3: other side of it, and that is Michael Pittman in 1258 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 3: one game with Joe Flacco had more receiving yards than 1259 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 3: he had in the first three. Combined with Anthony Richardson, 1260 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 3: Flacco looked great throwing the football. If they have a 1261 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 3: guy who can distribute the football, you've got Pittman, You've 1262 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 3: got Josh Downs. Josh Downs, same as Pittman. More yards 1263 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 3: in this game than he had in the first couple 1264 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 3: of games this season. 1265 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Was that your first time seeing Richardson play a lot? 1266 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, because he only played like five games as a rookie. 1267 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1268 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 2: But like earlier in this season, our games usually went 1269 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 2: head to head to head, you didn't get a chance 1270 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 2: to see him. So I was talking to you about 1271 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 2: him as the season went along. I'm like, dude, I'm 1272 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 2: telling you, this dude throws it everywhere. 1273 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 3: It's crazy because he was he was in this game. 1274 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 3: He was three for four for seventy one yards, which 1275 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 3: is really good. Yeah, but the one miss was so insane, 1276 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 3: the throw to the sixth row on a five yard 1277 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 3: out that was not being contested in any way, shape 1278 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 3: or for him. But great for Joe Flacco. He has 1279 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 3: been He was such a great guy when he was here, 1280 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 3: just a great quarterback in and Flaco Fever and how 1281 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 3: fun that was and we were winning games and all 1282 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 3: of it. But just getting to have him here sitting 1283 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 3: in the seat that Gibbee was in was as fun 1284 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 3: as you could have And they get to have him 1285 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 3: to have that moment and it's great. Yep, they have 1286 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 3: if they can get Anthony Richardson to harness all of 1287 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 3: his pencil. Clearly they have way more upside with him 1288 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 3: as the quarterback because of his ability not only to 1289 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 3: throw it, but to run it. I mean he also 1290 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 3: a guy accounted for ninety five yards of offense. I 1291 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 3: think on one drive he didn't play, wasn't in that 1292 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 3: game for very long at all. But they have a 1293 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 3: much better chance to win right now with Joe Flacco. 1294 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 3: There's no doubt. 1295 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 6: Well, and I mean now the AFC South, I mean 1296 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 6: they're opening game, they lose to the Texans by two points. 1297 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Yep. 1298 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 6: I mean they're right there. I mean the rest of 1299 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 6: that division. I mean Jacksonville's zero and four, Tennis is 1300 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 6: one and three. I mean, it's right there for him totally, 1301 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 6: if they can keep pace. We talked about decisions the 1302 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 6: Steelers made. What was it the second quarter? They on 1303 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 6: that fourth down they go for it like the thirty 1304 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 6: five yard line. 1305 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, on their didn' get it. They don't get it. Yeah. 1306 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,640 Speaker 3: And the other thing game is that three points quarter 1307 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 3: all Patterson should be their lead running there. 1308 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:06,919 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. 1309 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 3: Agieris is not. He's he is not good explosive. He's 1310 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 3: been very good against the Browns, and it's great, but 1311 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 3: he is not explosive. Quarter Ol Patterson is explosive. 1312 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 6: Well, Denver's done it again. After going to uh Tampa 1313 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 6: Bay and shocking the Buccaneers, UH, the Denver Broncos go 1314 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 6: into New Jersey and take down the New York Football 1315 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,480 Speaker 6: Jets ten to nine. Denver two and two. The Jets 1316 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 6: are too and too The girl one. 1317 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:45,439 Speaker 3: Thought the Jets were penalized thirteen times in this game 1318 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 3: for ninety yards and a lot of them were on 1319 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 3: off sides false starts because of the cadence of Aaron Rodgers, 1320 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 3: and he is being belligerent about it, and there's here 1321 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 3: the back and forth between him and Sola goes to 1322 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,439 Speaker 3: the mic first Sunday and says, you know, he's doing 1323 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 3: some things with the cadence that we're going to have 1324 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 3: to adjust. Rogers goes to the mic and says, well, 1325 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 3: maybe we just need to have some discipline and accountability 1326 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 3: and accountability. Then Sala goes to the mic yesterday and says, 1327 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 3: he's right, it's part of our game. They gave if 1328 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 3: you watched Hard Knocks, they gave Rogers the keys to 1329 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 3: the Kingdom yep when they signed him. Bob Sala might 1330 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 3: not be there next week. No, and they're weird. I 1331 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 3: think the vibes on that team are just odd. 1332 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 2: I think so too, Uh Jets. 1333 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 3: Fans, I can tell you are. Yeah, they've jumped into 1334 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 3: the river. 1335 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 6: That takes me into the next game. And I might 1336 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 6: as well ask the question, who's on the bigger hot 1337 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 6: seat right now, Bob Sala, Nick Sirianni or the head 1338 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 6: coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 1339 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 3: Well, Doug Peterson did something that is pretty You don't 1340 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 3: hear a lot of coaches deal basically saying what do 1341 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 3: you do? 1342 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 2: I missed it? 1343 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 3: Oh? His post game was basically like I can't play. 1344 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 3: He's like, they got to execute. Is that the players 1345 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 3: play can't sit well in the locker room. I cannot imagine. 1346 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 3: But he basically was just like, we're getting all this 1347 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 3: stuff in the right we're dialing it up and Lawrence 1348 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 3: missed one pass. But you know, for the most part 1349 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 3: I thought he was. He was decent. I'll tell you this. 1350 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 3: My big takeaway from this one is Nico Collins might 1351 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 3: be the best receiver in the league right now. That 1352 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 3: nobody's really talking about in terms. You're talking about a 1353 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 3: guy who's going out and producing consistently week in week out. 1354 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 3: The answer is Nico Collins. He's got to be. This 1355 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 3: is not without knowing. Okay, So he's second in catches 1356 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 3: and first, he leads a league in receiving yards thirty catches, 1357 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 3: four hundred and eighty nine yards so far, and he's 1358 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,200 Speaker 3: been good every single game. Fifteen for one to fifty 1359 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 3: one against Jacksonville, ten for eighty six against Minnesota, ten 1360 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 3: for one, thirty five in a touch against Chicago, eight 1361 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 3: for one to seventeen. He has been as consistent and 1362 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 3: good as anybody in the league. And then the other 1363 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 3: one is that Jacksonville drafted a superstar, Brian Thoms junior 1364 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 3: as a star. He is going to be. He is 1365 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:58,439 Speaker 3: going to be next year in fantasy second round pick, 1366 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 3: first rund He's he is that good. 1367 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 2: I'll take the the Eagles side of it. You mentioned 1368 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 2: Siriani in this. How improbable is it that a brain 1369 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 2: trust of Doug Peterson, Frank Wright, and Nick Foles beat 1370 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 2: Brady and Belichick in Yeah, like that happened? Yeah in 1371 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 2: our lifetime it did. And also Tampa Bay might just 1372 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 2: be really good. Yeah, that might just be They might 1373 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 2: just be really good. 1374 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, but you said it earlier. Ze, I mean, when 1375 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,920 Speaker 6: was the last time? What is the Eagles record over there? 1376 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 6: Last they were one and nine? 1377 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 3: I think to answer there, two and two, so three 1378 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 3: and eleven. 1379 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 2: To answer your question about who's on the hottest seat, 1380 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 2: Sirianni at least has. I mean, their defensive issues are real, 1381 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 2: but like he is, injury, No, some of the injury stuff. 1382 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 2: They have no receivers, like you know, they're really banged up. 1383 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 2: So I think that's some of it for them. 1384 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 6: He has been to a super Bowl. 1385 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and whereas you know, Peter's in Jacksonville. It seems 1386 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 2: like a complete lost cause. And who's the other hot 1387 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 2: seat you mentioned? Oh it's Bob Sala Bob Salah. Yeah, 1388 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 2: that's a matter of time there. 1389 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 3: I kind of wish Mike Evans played in a different market, 1390 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:13,360 Speaker 3: like I wish Mike Ols. 1391 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 2: I bet Mike Evans loves the market he plays in. 1392 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 3: I bet he does. I'm just saying I don't think people. 1393 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 2: You'll get there, you'll get there, you'll get there. I 1394 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 2: don't think people have an appreciation for g Man's watching 1395 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,919 Speaker 2: East bounding down how great he is and how great 1396 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 2: his career has been, and how his story significant it is. 1397 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 2: It's just like, I mean, it's just like if. 1398 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 3: He was on the Giants, New York Giants. 1399 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 2: It's Megatron, it's there are and he will actually want 1400 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 2: a super Bowl, Like there are guys where you got. 1401 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 2: You get in a place and people don't ever see you. 1402 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 2: I think it's like the Hoff, you know that type 1403 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 2: of thing with the Hoff, Like we know what the 1404 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 2: Hoff is, but like if you lived in another market, 1405 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 2: unless you're looking at all pro teams every year, you're 1406 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 2: not gonna know. 1407 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 3: Here's Mike Evans's career rookie year twenty fifty one and twelve, 1408 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 3: twelve oh six and three teen, twenty one and twelve, 1409 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 3: one thousand and one and five, fifteen, twenty four and eight, 1410 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 3: one thousand, one and fifty seven and eight, one thousand 1411 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 3: and six and thirteen, one thousand, thirty five and fourteen eleven, 1412 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 3: twenty four and six, twelve, fifty five and thirteen and 1413 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 3: this year already's got two fourteen. 1414 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:15,479 Speaker 6: He's got a super Bowl. 1415 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 2: He's got but he's a lock a gold jacket the 1416 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 2: second he's retires in the camp. 1417 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 3: He's the only one ten straight thousand yard seasons to 1418 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 3: open up a career only whenever. 1419 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, he's crazy, all right, Mister Ceciliano is waiting 1420 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 6: here at two thirty, so we're gonna rapid fire and 1421 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 6: then probably just stack through this. Bengals thirty four, Panthers 1422 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 6: twenty four. 1423 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:42,680 Speaker 2: Bishop thought Bengals got right. They've been right offensively for 1424 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 2: three straight games. Bursman lights out for three straight games, 1425 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 2: so they're on the come offensively. Defensively, they have real 1426 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 2: issues as we thought that they would have. 1427 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 3: You talked to anybody down there are the saying is 1428 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 3: it Chase Brown time? 1429 01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 4: Yet? 1430 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 3: I mean the guy so much more that was ch Mahart. 1431 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 2: He was great. Chase Brown's great, and that's not great 1432 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 2: for us. He's he hits a hole and he's so 1433 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 2: much better than He's so much better. Yeah, I don't 1434 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 2: know if they didn't trust him in Blitz pick up 1435 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 2: or are they seeing it though it's not being noticed. 1436 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 3: The other side of that is this game could have 1437 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 3: been different. The Panthers got stopped at fourth and one 1438 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 3: on the goal line on their very first possession, and 1439 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,120 Speaker 3: that obviously was a big momentum shift in this game. 1440 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 6: Uh, Commies forty two, Cardinals Fourteen's the girl. 1441 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 3: One thought Jaden Daniels is unreal and this was a beating. 1442 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 3: They've punted once in the last three games. Yep, they've 1443 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 3: punted once in the last three games. 1444 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. 1445 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 6: Uh, they're Let's see, the Bills have scored more points 1446 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 6: than the Commis. 1447 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 2: And I'm not convinced that Cliff Kingsbury ever wanted to 1448 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,799 Speaker 2: be a head coach in the NFL. But once it's offered, 1449 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 2: you can't turn it down. Yep. I think he really 1450 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 2: wanted to go be the offensive coordinator at Southern cal 1451 01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 2: and have a place in Manhattan Beach and call ball 1452 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,960 Speaker 2: plays and have some fun. And instead, all of a sudden, 1453 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 2: the Cardinals offered him a job, and it's like, well, 1454 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 2: you kender down the NFL, so we took it. He's 1455 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:07,560 Speaker 2: going to call him ball plays and he's got a 1456 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 2: quarterback that sees it. How he does deserve some credit 1457 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:09,800 Speaker 2: for that. 1458 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's two teams Saints Bills that have scored more 1459 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 6: points than the Arizona Cardinals. 1460 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 2: They beat Cincinnati and Arizona on the road. 1461 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1462 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 2: One what they are Do they play this week or 1463 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:21,559 Speaker 2: do the Commies play this week? 1464 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,600 Speaker 3: Us? Oh, by the way, did you realize that we 1465 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 3: get the Eagles coming off of their bye week? Great? Fantastic, Yeah, 1466 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,439 Speaker 3: the Eagles are on a bye bye week start this 1467 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 3: week in the NFL? 1468 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 6: Right, ough, can we get that figured out? But that's 1469 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 6: a conversation for another day. Forty nine Ers, thirty Patriots 1470 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 6: thirteen Patriots have come a long way since Week one, 1471 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:44,720 Speaker 6: and not the positive way. 1472 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 3: Nathan's the girl, our poor guy. Jacobe Brissett is being 1473 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 3: beaten That's why they didn't play may right, I know, 1474 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 3: And he's like insulted by that that they're just not 1475 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 3: playing him so he doesn't get beaten up. But it 1476 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 3: probably is true. I mean, this is it is ugly. 1477 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 3: They have nothing, nothing, no weapons at all. On the 1478 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 3: Niner side of it, Mason is I know that they 1479 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 3: missed McCaffrey, but you're talking Mason gives you one hundred 1480 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 3: and fifty total yards on a touchdown, five yards of care. 1481 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he's been he hasn't been McCaffrey in the 1482 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 3: passing game for sure, but he's been very effective running 1483 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 3: it pretty good. They're they're still good and they're a 1484 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 3: team that if they can get healthy, nobody wants to 1485 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 3: play them. 1486 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 2: How did the Patriots beat the Bengals in the opener? 1487 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:28,880 Speaker 3: That's completely sixteen to ten. 1488 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 2: It's nuts, absolutely nuts. 1489 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 3: Oh, it feels like it does. Feel like. 1490 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,479 Speaker 6: You know who the other undefeated is in the NFL. 1491 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 6: It is the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs seventeen Chargers ten 1492 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 6: bow one thought. 1493 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 2: No Pacheco, no roche Rice. Now my guess is they're 1494 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 2: going to be in the trade market. They've got to 1495 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,559 Speaker 2: get somebody they can trust in the pass game. They're 1496 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 2: not scary at anyway, and yet they're four and zero. 1497 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 2: They're gonna have home field, they're gonna run rough shown 1498 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,600 Speaker 2: through that division, and they still have the Wizard in 1499 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,839 Speaker 2: the postseason, so they're vulnerable. 1500 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 3: But for sure, I somebody tell me why the Chargers 1501 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 3: have justin Herbert and they're like, we don't need any weapons. 1502 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 2: I think they're playing the long game, and Harbaugh is saying, 1503 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 2: I can play it this way and get us in 1504 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,719 Speaker 2: the postseason in year one and then we will add 1505 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:15,720 Speaker 2: weapons in year two. 1506 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,080 Speaker 6: I hope that's salary cap a little more like Herbert. 1507 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 6: I do too, I mean, yeah, not to like Sunday 1508 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 6: Night Foosball, all Retbirds, Ravens, thirty five Bills, ten. 1509 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 2: Bo This one I saw coming. It just seemed ripe 1510 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 2: for Baltimore to do this. I thought they could win 1511 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,559 Speaker 2: it in a similar fashion that was in play Night Game, 1512 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 2: all black uniforms, all the stuff. Buffalo crowned all of that. 1513 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,879 Speaker 2: Baltimore is the best front runner in the NFL, among 1514 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 2: the best maybe in the history of the sport. They 1515 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,639 Speaker 2: are so hard to come back from when they get 1516 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 2: up like that, and they can punish you in the 1517 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 2: ground game, and they play so well with the lead. 1518 01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 2: That's why it was so strange they lost to the 1519 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 2: Raiders this year and they were up two scores in 1520 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 2: the fourth, just off character, but they it was for them. 1521 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 2: It was I love what Todd was doing offensively. All 1522 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 2: of it was a win. 1523 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Lamar is very good. Derek Henry still the speed 1524 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 3: at his size is incredible. It really is incredible. 1525 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 6: That is one thought for Week four in the National 1526 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 6: Football League. 1527 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 2: All right, there you go, by the way, I have 1528 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 2: an incredible stat for you guys on the It was 1529 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins are the only team in the NFL 1530 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 2: who have not led for a single second this year 1531 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 2: might be Dolphins have not let they won on a walkway. 1532 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 3: They want to walk off field goal Week one, twenty 1533 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 3: seventeen over the JA they. 1534 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 2: Have not won on a They have not led for 1535 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 2: a single second all season. 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We had it on the Twisted Tea Heart 1546 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 2: Iced Tea Hotline, official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. It 1547 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 2: is play by play voice Andrew Siciliano joining us there 1548 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 2: before we get into the football. I'm curious if you 1549 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 2: had any anxious moments, because I had the treat of 1550 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,920 Speaker 2: listening to you call the Ohio State game on Saturday night, 1551 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 2: and then you were calling a game in Las Vegas 1552 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 2: the next day. Any anxious moments in transit? 1553 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 13: My friend, Hi, guys, it's not about me. You really 1554 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 13: want to know. I didn't sleep because I was that 1555 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:04,320 Speaker 13: anxious appeared. Yeah, no, it's hey, I'm a lucky guy. 1556 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 13: I got I got to do both and God willing 1557 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,799 Speaker 13: every you know, the planes took off on I say planes. 1558 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 13: I was double booked on flights Sunday morning, just to 1559 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:19,719 Speaker 13: be safe, right, you know it's you booked two flights 1560 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,719 Speaker 13: and you're like, you gotta you gotta cover your tail 1561 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,960 Speaker 13: just in case. So, yes, I was quite anxious. And 1562 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 13: when one of them was on the runway, the one 1563 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 13: I took and we were barreling down the runway, then 1564 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 13: you cancel the other one just to make sure. And yes, 1565 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 13: I was quite anxious, and I did not sleep much 1566 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 13: at all. 1567 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 11: But hey, we. 1568 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 3: And I was on the early bus, the early bus. Yeah, 1569 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,960 Speaker 3: a few hours later it was not as good, unfortunately. 1570 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 3: What are you now that you've had time to digest that. 1571 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 3: I know you've watched the game back. I've watched the 1572 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 3: game back. What are what's your what are your takeaways? 1573 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,679 Speaker 3: What is this team right now, that's. 1574 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,639 Speaker 13: A good question. I think it's a team that always 1575 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,880 Speaker 13: starts well. I mean, you know, scoring on the opening 1576 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 13: possession every game. That's good. The fifteen place, seventy yard drive, 1577 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 13: nine and a half minutes, and you cannot ask for 1578 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 13: a better start to the games. You just got to 1579 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,680 Speaker 13: maintain it. And I think that's the one thing. You know, 1580 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 13: you can't leave it to the fourth quarter and you 1581 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,439 Speaker 13: hope it comes together and you can pull a drive 1582 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 13: out of thin air to save the game at the end. 1583 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 13: That's the one thing this week that when the Commanders 1584 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,559 Speaker 13: score on sixteen consecutive drives, when Trestway, their punter is 1585 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,720 Speaker 13: on the side of a milk carton right, and he 1586 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 13: doesn't even have to show up. You know the old 1587 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 13: joke about training camp or practice during the week where 1588 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,479 Speaker 13: the specialists are off on another field working on their 1589 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 13: golf game, right, Like those guys bring their golf clubs 1590 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 13: to practice. I'm not saying that's what dous Hopkins kray 1591 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 13: Borg has do, but you know that that's what players think. 1592 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, the specialists over there just just hanging out, 1593 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 13: you know, doing whatever. That's what treus Way has done. 1594 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,960 Speaker 13: Like on game day the last couple of weeks. They 1595 01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 13: don't need him, right, So if the other team is 1596 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 13: scoring every possession of the Browns certainly hope to stop that. 1597 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,720 Speaker 13: You you can't just have a good first quarter and 1598 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 13: then hope to pull it out in the fourth quarter, 1599 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 13: because you're not going to be able to at that point, 1600 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,920 Speaker 13: you're going to be too far behind. So you need 1601 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 13: to bottle some of that first drive magic and keep 1602 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 13: it going. And on the critical downs like the fourth 1603 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,080 Speaker 13: and three at the end of the game. You you 1604 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 13: can't let Christian Wilkins win instantly off the line and 1605 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 13: have your quarterback scramble and try to crow throw across 1606 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,800 Speaker 13: his body to save the game. You know, you can't 1607 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,679 Speaker 13: let free hitters get to your quarterback on the most 1608 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:49,800 Speaker 13: critical players of the game. 1609 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,320 Speaker 3: He's right, You're you're so right about that. And it's 1610 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 3: a game. It's a team that you know, obviously we 1611 01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 3: put out the call of the week, it's the running 1612 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,960 Speaker 3: mcclouds scoop and score. You think you're gonna win. 1613 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 13: My voice cracked the way. I'm sorry for that. That 1614 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,560 Speaker 13: might add something. 1615 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 3: To pure joy, dude, it's pure and joy and enthusiast 1616 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,759 Speaker 3: that no apologies, my voice cracked. 1617 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 13: It sounded sounded like that was twelve again. But anyway, 1618 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,080 Speaker 13: I cut you off then to keep going. 1619 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,720 Speaker 3: Listen, that's the joy We sometimes we need to let 1620 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 3: our inner child out, and that's what you did in 1621 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 3: That's such a joyous moment right there. Anyway, when you 1622 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 3: think about what the task ahead is now, it is 1623 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 3: on the road Washington, on the road Philly coming off 1624 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 3: of their bye week home Bangles home Ravens home Chargers. 1625 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 3: You got five games to try to get this thing. 1626 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 3: We were talking earlier. We feel like you need to 1627 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 3: be four and five at worst. Five and four obviously 1628 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 3: would be better, but four and five at worst going 1629 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,000 Speaker 3: into that bye week. When you think about the task 1630 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,800 Speaker 3: at hand, what are what's the one thing If there 1631 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,680 Speaker 3: was one thing that you could say, we need to 1632 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,200 Speaker 3: improve this one thing and that'll give us a better chance, 1633 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 3: what would it be right now with this team? 1634 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,760 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I would say offensive, offensive consistency and 1635 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 13: what's the same page thing. We keep going back to 1636 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,720 Speaker 13: that a thousand times, but offensive consistency from startup game 1637 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 13: to end of game. And I would also say, look again, 1638 01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 13: you don't want to put too much of the defense here, 1639 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,680 Speaker 13: But you've got to tackle better in space, and you 1640 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 13: got to force a few more turnovers one that count, 1641 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 13: ones that don't get called back due to penalty. That 1642 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 13: that Rodney McCleod scoop and score and give credit j Oka, 1643 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 13: and give credit credit to Isaiah maguire, you know who, 1644 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 13: by the way, graded out fantastic and the PFF for him. 1645 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 13: You need more of those. And now you don't want 1646 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 13: to force too hard that you know, you you blow 1647 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 13: assignments and you go for kill shots and you let 1648 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 13: guys get explosives because you're not fundamentally sound. You can't 1649 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 13: have that. But look at the Commanders this week. They're 1650 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,559 Speaker 13: stretching to feel much like the Giants did against US 1651 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,240 Speaker 13: East and West, not just north and South. And you've 1652 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 13: got to be able to tackle in space, in the 1653 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:53,719 Speaker 13: flat and the perimter. You you cannot let them break 1654 01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 13: free because that is their game. And Austin Eckler guys 1655 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 13: looks rejuvenated. A couple of years ago. He might have 1656 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,160 Speaker 13: scored eighteen twenty touchdowns for the Chargers, but if you 1657 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 13: look at him, none of them in his huge year, 1658 01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:09,000 Speaker 13: none of those scores were from outside of the red zone. 1659 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 13: They were all red zone scores. He didn't have that burst. 1660 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,800 Speaker 13: It seems like it's back. I mean, he had the 1661 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,439 Speaker 13: kickoff return touchdown, the one where Graham Goodo got injured, 1662 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 13: the one that got called back. He had that week two. 1663 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 13: He had the explosive early on Week three in Cincinnati. 1664 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,759 Speaker 13: He's got burst again. And then you throw in Terry McLaurin, 1665 01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 13: you throw in I mean even Jeremy McNichols had burst 1666 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,960 Speaker 13: last week. They are going to stretch you east and 1667 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,680 Speaker 13: west as much as north and south, and if you 1668 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:37,880 Speaker 13: don't tackle, they're gonna kill you. 1669 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, they certainly are, which which brings us back to 1670 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 2: I mean, this is daunting. Like you thought you were 1671 01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,320 Speaker 2: going to beat the Giants. Obviously, you felt like you 1672 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 2: would go and win out in Las Vegas without Crosby 1673 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 2: and without Adams. It didn't happen. So you have to 1674 01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 2: find a way to win offensively. Is as you reassess 1675 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,679 Speaker 2: everything here, Andrew, what what do you think we can 1676 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,880 Speaker 2: do well enough to give yourself a chance to win 1677 01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,000 Speaker 2: Sunday in Washington. 1678 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 13: So I mean again going back to the first drive 1679 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,759 Speaker 13: to Shawn's nine for nine, A lot of short drops, 1680 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 13: a lot of quick games. Yeah, there were a couple 1681 01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 13: of shots. You know, I wouldn't say deep downfield, but 1682 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,320 Speaker 13: I would say underneath and medium. Take and take them 1683 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 13: as you can get them. You also, though, have to 1684 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,240 Speaker 13: keep You also have to have the ability, though, too, 1685 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,599 Speaker 13: when you see those fifteen yard incuts, when you see 1686 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,240 Speaker 13: those posts in the middle of the field, to be 1687 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 13: able to see him and take him and hit them. 1688 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 13: And this is not just like the Hey you're mad 1689 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 13: at de want because he took the inside guy instead 1690 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 13: of the outside guy and Sean got a free hitter 1691 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 13: there and he couldn't hit a Mario on that deep shots. 1692 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,120 Speaker 13: I mean, I believe the third quarter, not not just those. 1693 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,760 Speaker 13: I'm talking those intermediate throws that are there for the 1694 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:51,719 Speaker 13: taking and you're taking checkdowns. Look, I'll take the checkdown. 1695 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 13: I'll take the five and seven yard gain any time. 1696 01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 13: So you're not behind the sticks. But you got to 1697 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:57,719 Speaker 13: hit some of those intermediate throws. 1698 01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 4: Now. 1699 01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 13: Look, they hit the one to a Mario, they call 1700 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,439 Speaker 13: it that. And if I could say this, I was 1701 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:06,000 Speaker 13: on RBS early on Monday and I said, I thought 1702 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 13: it was a good call. Look he was pulling the jersey. 1703 01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 13: And I said, on our broadcast Nathan. You could see 1704 01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 13: the hand of the jersey tug on Wilkins. But after 1705 01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,799 Speaker 13: watching the TV copy, hearing the HOWF on with You yesterday, 1706 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,439 Speaker 13: hearing Ross Tucker yesterday, I am not as certain that 1707 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,600 Speaker 13: was a good call as I was on the broadcast 1708 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 13: on Sunday. I've seen far worse not called on Miles 1709 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 13: Garrett and week out, and I don't think that that 1710 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 13: hit the high bar of what a holding call should be. 1711 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more. And you could see the jersey, and 1712 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure that's what drew the attention of the ra 1713 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 3: Eyes and that's why the flag gets thrown. But I 1714 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,280 Speaker 3: think by the letter of the live and is the 1715 01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,880 Speaker 3: way Hoff described it, that probably shouldn't have been a penalty, 1716 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,599 Speaker 3: and Ross Tucker certainly was adamant about it. That would 1717 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 3: being a bad call. But the Brown still had every opportunity 1718 01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,800 Speaker 3: to overcome that, and still they were not able to. 1719 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 3: And I think that's what's been so frustrating for this 1720 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,839 Speaker 3: team is, no, we have not played our best football, 1721 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,120 Speaker 3: but you still had three chances in the fourth quarter 1722 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,120 Speaker 3: against the Giants, two against the Raiders to go win 1723 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,640 Speaker 3: this game, and you have not been able to do it. 1724 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,639 Speaker 3: For a variety of reasons. And the clock's ticking right. 1725 01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you talked about what we have to do better. 1726 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,160 Speaker 3: We've got to have that efficiency on offense. You got 1727 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,000 Speaker 3: to be able to tackle better, blocking, tackling the basics 1728 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,200 Speaker 3: of the game. As we talked about on the broadcast, 1729 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,360 Speaker 3: it's going to get late early if you don't find 1730 01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,160 Speaker 3: a way to get out of this, this kind of 1731 01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:31,360 Speaker 3: nose dive that you're in. 1732 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 13: Yeah, we all know that. We all look at the calendar. 1733 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,479 Speaker 13: We all see the schedule here. You got to make 1734 01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,200 Speaker 13: this three game homestand meetingful in October, so you you 1735 01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 13: got to win at least one of these next two. 1736 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,360 Speaker 13: And let me say this too about what you're walking 1737 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,560 Speaker 13: into this week. We all agreed. It was more orange 1738 01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,160 Speaker 13: than silver and black in the stands. And you guys 1739 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:53,720 Speaker 13: were there. You were there for the fire weekend. It 1740 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 13: you know, Vegas was Brownstown. I grew up for those 1741 01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 13: who don't know, in in the Washington, DC area, and 1742 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 13: when I was a kid and they were going to 1743 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,920 Speaker 13: Super Bowls all the time, it was the only game 1744 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 13: in town. The Bullets at the time, we had no baseball. 1745 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,240 Speaker 13: The Capitals were good, but they would lose in the 1746 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:16,040 Speaker 13: first round every year. It didn't matter. Washington is a 1747 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 13: Commanders or whatever. It's a football town, whatever you want 1748 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 13: to call the franchise. It is a football town. It 1749 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:27,639 Speaker 13: is back, and it is back as much as its 1750 01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,240 Speaker 13: as it's ever been back. That stadium has seen better days, 1751 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 13: but it will be shaking. They are as excited about 1752 01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,639 Speaker 13: this team as they have been since RG three took 1753 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,479 Speaker 13: them to the playoffs as a rookie in twenty twelve, 1754 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:46,480 Speaker 13: and then that thing fell apart quickly. They this franchise 1755 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:51,679 Speaker 13: is awake and alive, and the town loves it again. 1756 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,759 Speaker 13: They lost an entire generation, you know, fighting back against 1757 01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,719 Speaker 13: the owner. There was apathy, throwing Sunday ticket and fancy football. 1758 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 13: You had twenty years of fans there that didn't care 1759 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 13: because their parents didn't care anymore, and they just chose 1760 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,400 Speaker 13: to do something else on Sundays, like play fantasy football 1761 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:14,840 Speaker 13: and root for a team somewhere else. That's over. They 1762 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:18,680 Speaker 13: are back, and it's not like you're going to be 1763 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,880 Speaker 13: walking into a building with all Browns fans. Browns fans 1764 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,519 Speaker 13: always travel well, they'll be Browns fans there, but it's 1765 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,720 Speaker 13: going to be and Nathan, you saw this in Jacksonville. 1766 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,960 Speaker 13: That didn't really feel like much of a road game, right, Yeah, 1767 01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,799 Speaker 13: this was a lot of Browns fans. Upper deck was empty. 1768 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 13: Weather sucks, It didn't matter. This is going to be 1769 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 13: a lot different, Andrew. 1770 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 2: I don't think people realize that. And you you're the 1771 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 2: perfect person to talk about it with. But I mean, 1772 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,640 Speaker 2: if you go back to Gibbs and the Hogs and 1773 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,679 Speaker 2: all of that, and Tony cor Corneiser writing bandwagon columns 1774 01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,600 Speaker 2: in the Washington Post and all of that stuff that 1775 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 2: came with that, this was one of the absolute pillar 1776 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:59,479 Speaker 2: organizations in the NFL. It was them, the Cowboys, the Giants, 1777 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,599 Speaker 2: they were the ones that were They were these models. 1778 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,360 Speaker 2: You could not get tickets to RFK, No, forget it. 1779 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 2: You could not get in. 1780 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,400 Speaker 13: You couldn't. And that's there. I grew up in there 1781 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,240 Speaker 13: when they were going to the Super Bowl every year. 1782 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,400 Speaker 13: We couldn't get tickets. We didn't have season tickets. We 1783 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 13: had a neighbor who had them, and I think like 1784 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,879 Speaker 13: maybe once every two three years, my dad would convinced 1785 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,680 Speaker 13: the neighbor to get the tickets from them. Like we 1786 01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,519 Speaker 13: would go and the Browns would come to town. But 1787 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 13: you know that wasn't very often, especially with the wind 1788 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,520 Speaker 13: the schedule was back then. It was also a regional 1789 01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:38,560 Speaker 13: team because that was without the Carolina Panthers, without the Jaguars. 1790 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:39,920 Speaker 13: I know people ask, why does. 1791 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:40,519 Speaker 2: That matter more? 1792 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 13: Well, yeah, the Colts got up and left. And you know, 1793 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,719 Speaker 13: if you go way back before the Falcons became a thing, 1794 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 13: before the Bucks became a thing, that franchise was the 1795 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 13: franchise of the South. It was the franchise from Washington 1796 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:04,599 Speaker 13: all the way to Miami me practically, and it was huge. 1797 01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:10,160 Speaker 13: And then for various reasons ownership, most notably, it just died. 1798 01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 13: It died in Washington. That's over. It's back. 1799 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,240 Speaker 3: Oh, it is back in a big way. And then 1800 01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,720 Speaker 3: for me, thinking about the last time that I was 1801 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 3: in Washington for a game, it was the end. It 1802 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,519 Speaker 3: was New Year's Eve. I think the game was played 1803 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 3: on New Year's Day. I want to say, does that 1804 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,800 Speaker 3: make it? I think it was. Deshaun had had a 1805 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,840 Speaker 3: good game at a good second half. We ended up 1806 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,559 Speaker 3: winning that game, but that was a game that was 1807 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:39,759 Speaker 3: started by Carson Wentz. Ron Rivera was still the head coach, 1808 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:41,800 Speaker 3: said that he didn't know if they lost that game. 1809 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,720 Speaker 3: They were out of the playoffs. Afterwards, that crowd was 1810 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 3: as hostile for Carson Wentz as I have heard a 1811 01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,160 Speaker 3: crowd ever. And they introduced Major Tuddy, which might be 1812 01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,280 Speaker 3: one of the worst mascots of our of football. At halftime, 1813 01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,720 Speaker 3: people were booing Major Tuddy. So it's going to be 1814 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,639 Speaker 3: a completely different environment than we saw in the last tirement. 1815 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 13: Yeah, and listen, it's back because they have a quarterback 1816 01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,519 Speaker 13: and they're winning and there's new energy there. Listen, we 1817 01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 13: have this. I say we like the area. In twenty 1818 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,080 Speaker 13: twelve when r G three one week one in New Orleans, 1819 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,040 Speaker 13: there's that iconic shot of him sitting on the ground 1820 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:19,559 Speaker 13: there with his hands in the air after hitting a 1821 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 13: deep shot for a touchdown. It was back then as well, 1822 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 13: but it was very short lived, very short lived. Jaden 1823 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 13: Daniels has brought that energy back in the new ownership 1824 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,760 Speaker 13: obviously kind of sort of means everything there now that 1825 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:35,880 Speaker 13: doesn't matter on the field, But I'm just saying that 1826 01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,880 Speaker 13: the intensity last week was a Raiders team goes back 1827 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,320 Speaker 13: into a corner and they were injured, and they were 1828 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,840 Speaker 13: sad and they were lonely, but they won. Right, This 1829 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,280 Speaker 13: is not bad. This is a confident team with a 1830 01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:48,559 Speaker 13: re energized fan base. 1831 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 2: Hi, buddy, you'll be on the call on Sunday as 1832 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,719 Speaker 2: is customary. Appreciate your time here with us on a Tuesday, Pal. 1833 01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,760 Speaker 13: Guys, astros have runners? No the Tigers, everyone's first and second, 1834 01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:01,960 Speaker 13: top of the second? No score? 1835 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,640 Speaker 2: What is that? What is what are you? What's that? 1836 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:05,000 Speaker 3: Sport? 1837 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:06,160 Speaker 4: Oh? 1838 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 13: The baseball thing started today? 1839 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 2: Oh there's baseball. I didn't know that. I'm sorry, I'm kidding. 1840 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:12,160 Speaker 3: Oh. 1841 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:13,920 Speaker 13: I thought you were going to ask me about Jeremiah Smith. 1842 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 2: Well I on the Columbus Show. I'll have you on. 1843 01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 2: You want to talk to me, talk about it? You 1844 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:20,839 Speaker 2: want to talk about Jeremiah Smith. 1845 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,839 Speaker 13: Tomorrow, I'll do that because I totally cow. 1846 01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 2: Real one, Yeah, real one. We'll talk to you soon, 1847 01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:33,680 Speaker 2: Bud see it. So the best thing is is the 1848 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,760 Speaker 2: g man doesn't know that I'm kidding. The look on 1849 01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,360 Speaker 2: his face was that I actually didn't know what any incredulous. 1850 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah No, I just don't talk baseball other than Pete 1851 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 2: rose plenty about that when we have to so much 1852 01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,000 Speaker 2: more to come Cleve The Browns Daily eight fifty. 1853 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 4: ESP and Cleveland. 1854 01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,679 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley bed now 1855 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,440 Speaker 1: live in Ohio on eight fifty ESP and Cleveland. 1856 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,160 Speaker 2: Be part of one of the most passion fan based 1857 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,760 Speaker 2: the NFL joined Next Gen SDM presented by Ticketmaster. The 1858 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,760 Speaker 2: official white list of your Cleveland Browns being a next 1859 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,719 Speaker 2: Gen STM, Your best chance we have a season ticket 1860 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,120 Speaker 2: member in future seasons is a Cleveland Browns dot com 1861 01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:34,840 Speaker 2: slash next Gen STM to reserve your spot. 1862 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:36,200 Speaker 3: Two day. 1863 01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 2: There you have it. I believe we've done it. 1864 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,400 Speaker 3: We've done it. Yes, did you give the news and 1865 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 3: just to read there? You just did the read no 1866 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,240 Speaker 3: big news? Gary Brightwell? Oh, go ahead, Yeah, Gary Brightwell 1867 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,040 Speaker 3: has been released. So there is an open spot on 1868 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,080 Speaker 3: the Browns fifty three before people think that that means 1869 01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,200 Speaker 3: Nick Chubb is coming back this week, even though his 1870 01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,719 Speaker 3: training price probably just means pure Ham's Strong's hamstring is okay. Yeah, 1871 01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,360 Speaker 3: and they're gonna need a spot somewhere else. That would 1872 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:00,880 Speaker 3: be my guess. 1873 01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,080 Speaker 2: Good job to you. That's why we pay the big bucks. 1874 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,240 Speaker 2: That's not to be wrong. I'd love it if Nick 1875 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,519 Speaker 2: Chubb's starting in Washington. I just think let's have some 1876 01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,599 Speaker 2: common sense. Yeah, next level is next. We're back tomorrow 1877 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,360 Speaker 2: cleveld Browns Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1878 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,840 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1879 01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,040 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland