1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:00,600 Speaker 1: We have. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: Been encouraged by. Obviously, the talent shows up about it 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 2: there on the field. I think he's a very instinctive player, 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: find ways to get to the football. He's got a 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 2: natural feel to dip, to lean, to bend, and you 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: see those straight show up out there on the practice field. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: Continuing to work consistency day in and day out with 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: the effort, the technique, the fundamentals, but like his versatility, 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: like what he's gonna be able to bring for our defense. 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Versatility kind of help you kind of figure out without 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: giving up too much, figure out what you're gonna do 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: with him this season. 13 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a history of playing off the ball, 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: so I think that helps him. Obviously, the ability to 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: rush different spots, So I mean there's there's a lot 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: of things he can do and he does really well. 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: It's just a matter of making sure as the coaching 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: staff we do a good job not overloading him obviously 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: being a rookie, continuing to focus on the techniques and 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: fundamental but finding ways for him and all these guys 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: to impact the game for us. 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: Shame have somebody. 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: When you have somebody that's like instinctual like that, they 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 4: use that word a lot for him, probably improvises a 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: little bit. 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: What kind of an onus does that put on the 28 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: rest of the guys too? 29 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, to that fundamental, Yeah, I think you have to 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: be calculated a little bit with it. I think that 31 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: part of that falls on him and all these guys. Really, 32 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: there's a time and place to be instinctive when you 33 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: think you can go make a play and if you 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: if you take that risk, you better make it. But again, 35 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: I think the other guys behind him understanding who he is, 36 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: Understanding who our linebackers are at times, being able to 37 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: play off them right. And it happens up front all 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: the time really with these front guys, Like there's times 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: they're not always in the gap they're supposed to be in, 40 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: So being able to read off them make them right. 41 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: That's why you're behind them, to be able to make 42 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: them right. But understanding who you're playing with, I think 43 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: is a big part. 44 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: Of that shame out. 45 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 4: I would I would imagine that you know, what are 46 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: the times that you've been running a defense when you 47 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 4: looked at the depth chart and what you had and said, 48 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: you know, I'm not quite sure we have enough. You know, 49 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: that's a challenge, right in this case, when you have 50 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 4: three guys like Abdual, Caveon and Burns and you know 51 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: that's probably enough at that spot. Is it also a 52 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: big challenge for you now to say, all right, I 53 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 4: have to figure it out to you know, use all 54 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: these guys when I need to use them, you know, 55 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: not like I don't have enough, like maybe have too much. 56 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 3: I got to figure it out. Yeah. 57 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: I think we got to do a good job myself, 58 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: our coaching staff and finding ways that get our impact 59 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: players on the field, right. And we think all three 60 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: of those guys are impact players in this league. 61 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: They've shown it. The other two guys have shown it. 62 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: So we got to make sure we do a good 63 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: job of finding ways to utilize them. Situationally, it comes 64 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: into play right early downs, What is that third down? 65 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: What is that we get in the red zone? 66 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: What is that? 67 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: So it kind of changes a little bit based on 68 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: the situation how much you're able to utilize them more 69 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: in certain situations than others. But excited to have three 70 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: there as you know, it's a it's a tough league. 71 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: At some point somebody's going to get banged up too. 72 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: So to have the ability to have three guys that 73 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: can roll and play and do different things for us. 74 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: It really opens up the the creativity for us and 75 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: what we're able to do depensive. 76 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: We'll see those three guys on first down, though, you. 77 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: Know what I mean you want to I think there's 78 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: a time and place I do. I think there's a 79 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: time and place for for all that stuff. Finding ways 80 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: to get him on the field and what we ask 81 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: him do. And it's not only what you're asking Abdul 82 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: to do, it's what you're asking Burns and KT to 83 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: do in those situations as well, because it's not traditional 84 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: four down, two guys on the edge at that point. 85 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 5: We've seen Elik Neighbors shine a lot this this camp, 86 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: and I'm just kind of curious when you watch him 87 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: do the things he's doing to your defense, what what 88 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: kind of projections do you have and how excited? 89 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any projections for him. I know 90 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: he's a hell of a player. 91 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 5: I mean, like numbers, I just mean what you know, 92 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 5: how you know, I'm sure you've seen you advancement for 93 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: end of this year. 94 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean he's a tough matchup one on 95 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: one is a tough matchup. It's uh, it's it's really 96 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: good for our guys to be able to go out 97 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: there and compete. I think he's one of the better 98 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: receivers in this league. 99 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: I really do. 100 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: Just the route running, the ability to separate, the ability 101 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: to catch contested throws. It's good to see him and 102 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: Russ kind of build the rapport that they're building right now. 103 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: But I mean they've they've been making some plays and 104 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: some tight coverage. Really, all those guys on that side 105 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: of the ball, like we've we've been tight some contested 106 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: throws that have been caught by them, whether it's Malik 107 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: or some of these other guys. 108 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: So it's encouraging to see really really good. 109 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Player size that competition between Cordell and then Deontay. 110 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: I think they're both doing a really good job. 111 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: Obviously flat Smith's a little bit time here in the 112 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: past couple of days, but I think they're they're doing 113 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: a really good job. I'd like the growth of Tay. 114 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: I think competition has been good for both of them. 115 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: I really do. But you're seeing Tay battle and going 116 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: up against Malik and finding ways to get PBUs and 117 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: some other guys. He's been able to get his hands 118 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: on footballs more. I feel like this early on in 119 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: training camp were ten days in by early on more 120 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: so than what it was last year. He's working like 121 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: he's working, He's competing for the job. He's trying to 122 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: earn it, just like everybody else is trying to earn 123 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: their playtime. And I thought Flat was doing a really 124 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 2: good job like in this from the spring to now, 125 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: like he was probably one of the guys that had 126 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: the most pass breakoups. So just continue that competition of 127 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: versatility and no different than all these other positions. There's 128 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: gonna be time and place where the numbers kind of 129 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: shrink and we got to figure out ways of how 130 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: do we fit based on who's available and who's not. 131 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: So some of the versatility stuff's gonna come in and 132 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: play as well. Do you rank do you rank. 133 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 5: The upcoming joint practices with the Jets sort of ahead 134 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 5: of the preseason games in terms of intensity and what 135 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: you're looking for in evaluation. 136 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: Or honestly no, Like I'm I'm geareding Buffalo after today, 137 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: like we're kind of shifting gears a little bit to 138 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: get ready for Buffalo, and and I'm expecting whoever's out 139 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: there to play to our style, Like, you're really looking 140 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: at guys that can go out there and play with effort, 141 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: play with fundamentals, take the ball away, all the things 142 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: we've been preaching, do what they're asked, know what to do. 143 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: So I think there's a there's a big evaluation to 144 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: be had on Saturday and then obviously. 145 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: Next week versus Jests is thinking, I think is the 146 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: same thing. 147 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: So I don't know if I weigh one more than 148 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: the other, just holistically as a unit, what we're trying 149 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: to build, the toughness, the physicality, the effort, all the stuff. 150 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 3: That comes with it. 151 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: That's the stuff I'm I'm looking at most come Saturday 152 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: and even next week against the Jets. 153 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Coach, every every player we've talked to on defense at 154 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: every level has made a point to talk about the inquitive, 155 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: inquisitive nature of each one, like, hey, we're talking d lines, 156 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: talk with the linebackers, linebackers talking to vbs. Are you 157 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: seeing that communication pick up within the unit? And how 158 00:06:58,640 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: important is. 159 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: That for this defense? Yeah? It's huge. 160 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: I mean on defense, you guys defend everything, right, so 161 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: there's got to be some adjustments where you've got to 162 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: be able to communicate, get all leven on the same page. 163 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: We got to see it through the same set of eyes, 164 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: Like one guy can't see it differently than another guy, 165 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: or else you're not going to be on the same page, 166 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: and more times than not, something bad happens as a result. 167 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: So I think it starts really with our inside backers 168 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: and our safeties. That's where the bulk of it falls. 169 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: I think our Nickel position falls into that category because 170 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: he's kind of hybrid. I do see growth and drew 171 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: there just being near to his understanding, awareness, his conviction, 172 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: making some of those calls. Feel really good about Holland 173 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: and Nuban, like, I think they see things the same way. 174 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: They're both great communicators. They talk, and then obviously that 175 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: fillers down to the front with Bobby Micah all those 176 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: other and even up front, like you got guys like 177 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: Decks who played a lot of ball, not Joe Roy 178 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: who's played a lot of ball. Our edge guys like 179 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: those guys are talking. So I don't think there's ever 180 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: too much that can be said pre snap. I really don't, 181 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: like I tell our guys you never know what you're 182 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: going to say. That alerts something or helps the guy 183 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: next to you. Right, So let's not keep stuff a secret. 184 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: Let's make sure we're all on the same page, seeing 185 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: it through the same set of eyes, so we can 186 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: go out there and execute as a unit. 187 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: We'll take it. 188 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: Take away you guys have gotten no defense so far. 189 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 5: And how much has Holland contributed to that emphasis? 190 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was encouraging in the spring. I 191 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: feel like it's continued here in the fall. I think 192 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: we need more. I always think we need more. But 193 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: you see the emphasis on being able to punch the 194 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: ball out, Like guys are trying to punch the. 195 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: Ball out, whether we tag off with their thud the runner. 196 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: Then he continues on and guys are making emphasis trying 197 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: to punch it out. I feel like we've been able 198 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: to get our hands whether we pick him or not. 199 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: We've got our hands on a lot of passes. I 200 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: think we got to do a better job up front 201 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: being able to get our hands and tips. 202 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: And balls there. 203 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: But encourage where we're at right now with that just 204 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 2: something we got to stay on top of. We preach 205 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: it daily, We show him daily. Big area we need 206 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: to improve on this upcoming season. 207 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 5: I think Burns mentioned flipped to switch at some point 208 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 5: last season or last year. 209 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: Is that something you've seen. Yeah, I think KT's had 210 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: a really good camp. I think. 211 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: He's shown his ability to play with power. It's showing 212 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: up more on a more consistent basis as a rusher, 213 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: and then the compliments off of that. I think he's 214 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: he's really diving into who he is as a rusher 215 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: as a player. So I've been encouraged He's done a 216 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: lot of good things this camp. I see the effort 217 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: like he's one of the in terms of clips that 218 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: we show, Like there's a lot of clips with KT 219 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: running to the ball. That's the example for us. So 220 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: please where he's at. Hopefully all these guys continue to grow. 221 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: Like we're on day ten right now. Well, I know 222 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: it's coming quick, but we got a lot of gross 223 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: still to happen for week one. Rushing with power? 224 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: Is that an emphasis for like that you had with him? 225 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think just knowing who he is and the 226 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: strength that he has and the length that he has, 227 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: like it doesn't always have to be pretty, like we 228 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: can be a little bit grimy at times, and then 229 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: then you have the ability to to counter off of 230 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: that now they're sitting on it, and you can use 231 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: some of those hand moves, get on edges, things that 232 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: come along with it. But if you got the ability 233 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: to power, let's let's make sure we utilize that. It'll 234 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: open everything else up.