1 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans is for those who make plans 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: for everything except themselves. We make it easy and affordable 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: for Tennessee and who don't have a group or employer plan. 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Visit FBHP dot com to learn more. With Amy Wells, 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Keith coach. Dave McGinnis is in the Snickers 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: hot seat. 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Welnakers hot seat. Welcome, Thanks, Thanks, I like being here. 9 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Did you have a marvelous Christmas? 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: Great Christmas, marvelous Christmas. Hope everybody listening to OTP had 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: a great Christmas? I know you two? Did I know 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Amy had a did not have Santa Claus in her 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: house because outdoors one of her daughters doesn't want Santa 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: in the house. 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Is that right? 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: That is true. 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: We didn't leave cookie for Santa. We didn't want to 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: create the illusion that he was welcome inside that house. 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: The presence outside. 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: Please leave all gifts outside, they really do, Yes, Santa 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 4: Santa was not We didn't want Santa to enter the home, so. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 3: He left his gifts out. What do you we well, 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 3: my daughter, Okay. 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 4: Livy, Livy didn't love doesn't love the idea, I know, so, yeah, 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 4: she she is nervous about the whole concept of Santa. 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: She doesn't love it. She doesn't think that having him 27 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 4: in her house is something that she likes. And so 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 4: we left the presence outside. 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: Can I stop a minute. 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: We didn't let them enter. 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Can't stop a minute. It's not anything she doesn't like. 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: She doesn't yike it. 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: She doesn't yike it. Yeah, she doesn't. And so but 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: it was fine. She likes the gifts. 35 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: She's very appreciative to Santa and really glad that he 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: is back at home for three hundred and sixty four days. 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: But don't come in my house. 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: She has asked me nine hundred times in the last 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: twenty four hours. Is Santa back at the North Pole 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: with missus Claus? Yes, yes he is. She needs to 41 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: know where he is at all times. 42 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: So everybody had a different kind of Christmas. 43 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: Ours is a little more suspicious at my house, but 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: magical nonetheless. 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: So great, all right. 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: So that branks us. 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: To topic number one on the OTP pre game. Should 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: the NFL keep playing Christmas games when Christmas falls on 49 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: a Tuesday or Wednesday? 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: Coach deph for me, Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely, yes, the 51 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: whole Netflix thing I thought was okay, but no matter 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: when they play, people are going to watch. But I 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: watched both of them with a huge house full of people, 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: both of them back to back within So my aunts 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: is yes. 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: Okay, So you think even on a Wednesday, and you 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: like how they did it where they had the teams 58 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: who were going to play on Christmas play on Saturday, 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: so they had an extra day, And. 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: I absolutely did. I mean I wouldn't you know, if 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: I were coaching a team, I would not be against 62 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: playing on Christmas. We've done it. 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Before here right, Oh yeah, but not on Wednesday. No, No, 64 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: But I'm saying that's my question is just the league 65 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: is it worth playing on Christmas Day if the game 66 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: if Christmas falls on what will be a Tuesday in 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: a few years and a Wednesday again in six years. 68 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely, Yes. Lebron James didn't like it, but I 69 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: having no problem. 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: Lebron James is fifty five years old. That's different. 71 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: So now those teams that played the Ravens, Chiefs, whoever, 72 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: they now have an extended that's kind of nice. 73 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: They have sit worth it well. 74 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: But they and they played early as well. They played 75 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: on Saturday, So it's not even as bad as going 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: Sunday to third. 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: So they played Saturday to and then to Wednesday WEDESDA. 78 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: Now they get all that time off. 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that kind of it's it's tough on the front end, 80 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 4: but the recovery on the back end, especially in December, 81 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 4: that's not bad. 82 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: It means Houston's going to come in here with a 83 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 1: lot of rest. 84 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not great for us. 85 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: But but nothing to play for That is kind of hoon. 86 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: Houston is the four Seeds. 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Seeds decided. 88 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is kind of nice. 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: That will be fascinating to see how Demiko Ryans chooses 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: to play this with a football team that is not 91 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: playing well against the game that your owners want to 92 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: win more than any other, especially because the Titans beat 93 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: you on November twenty fourth, and the Titans are going 94 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: to dress as the Oilers for that game. Yeah, so 95 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: what is used to do? And they have this extra 96 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: time to stew in their own juices about. 97 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great analogy. It's a perfect analogy. 98 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: Mike, I'm with you asking the question. 99 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: But they're stewing in their own juices because they've lost 100 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: three in a row. 101 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: They've lost three in a row, and I mean, listen, and. 102 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: That's some juice you don't want to be in. 103 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Well, here's the other thing too, This is the one 104 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: you want more than any other, and now you're playing 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: it and it doesn't matter. 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have to have your players healthy because 107 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: you've lost three, right, you've got a secured spot. But 108 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: now the only thing that makes the season successful is 109 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: you got to win that first playoff game. 110 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. I mean in reality. I mean when 111 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien was the coach and Cal McNair was the owner, Yep, 112 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: he sat people and Bill O'Brien I think just said, listen, 113 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: we want to do well in the playoffs. So the 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: the thing we can't have happen is we can't have 115 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: our quarterback get hurt. We can't have you know, DeAndre 116 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: Hopkins get hurt, or Andre Johnson get hurt or any 117 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: of those players. 118 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: No, because it's the NFL tournament's wan and done. Oh yeah, 119 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: so you've got to be as ready as you can be. 120 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 4: I am interested in this conversation because it takes the 121 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 4: football motivation part of it almost out of it. And 122 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 4: there's the ego motivation. There's the bragging rights most who. 123 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: Who can go and say, listen, this is what because 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: now you got to win this game well, but or 125 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: or say listen, we've got to be smart here because 126 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: if we and I mean Jeff Fisher got this business 127 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, I'll never forget it. We 128 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: go to play Indianapolis, we've won the division, yep, we 129 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: don't need the game, and he sets everybody, including Chris Johnson, 130 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: and then we lose the first playoff game to Baltimore. 131 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: So people can back to that and said, there is 132 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: no way that you should, in any way, shape or 133 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: form have not played your starters in that last game 134 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: because you had the week off. Now Houston doesn't have 135 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: the week off. But everybody got on Jeff Fisher about it, 136 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: and Jeff's point was and it was so spot on. 137 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: He goes, okay, fine, whatever, let's let's say you're right. 138 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: If we play Indianapolis in a meaningless game and I 139 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: get Chris Johnson hurt, Yeah, how dumb am I? Especially 140 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: because we saw how that game with Baltimore in the 141 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: playoffs turned. When Chris Johnson did get hurt. 142 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: Was on CJ two k's high ankle spring right, inal right. 143 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: But if that had not happened, But say it had 144 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: happened in the regular season finale and you had not 145 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: had him, and then you'd have lost the game. You'd 146 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: have felt like a complete idiot. 147 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: Right, See. 148 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: What people need to understand that. I can tell you 149 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: from a coach's perspective, you're not afraid to put him 150 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: out there, but you also put them out there with 151 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: the fact that they're going to be going one hundred 152 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: miles an hour when they're out there, because that's the 153 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: only way that you can play this game. It's violent 154 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: and it can be unintentional. But if somebody's injured, it 155 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: doesn't matter that you were playing that game and didn't 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: have to win it. If they get injured, their injury matters. 157 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 1: Sure. 158 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what he's up again. 159 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: But on the flip side, if you're Demiko, what if 160 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: you think they need to play? 161 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to get this team all win. 162 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Well, but remember they don't have the week off. They 163 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: will play week one of the playoffs. 164 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going back to back. 165 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: They're going back to back. They will have had eleven 166 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: days off coming into this game. I think he's got 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: an interesting decision to make from that standpoint. But if 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: he decides that he doesn't want to play them, which 169 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: is totally reasonable and he's a good coach, then how 170 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: hard is it going to be to sell that. 171 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 4: Against because you'll love guys coming off of the Tennessee oilers. 172 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: Here's the other part that caveat the conundrum. 173 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: The Titans have already beaten him one. Well, that's it. 174 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: If you had beaten him on November twenty fourth, I 175 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: think I think it's it's a no cell. You don't 176 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: have to sell it at all. 177 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: And that's that's the other caveat to this. 178 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: Right. 179 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: We'll find out. 180 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: But do you, like, do you agree with coach Mack 181 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: that the NFL should continue to play Christmas games when 182 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: Christmas falls on Tuesday or Wednesday? 183 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. 184 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: I mean I think for the league, I mean, they 185 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: made a good chunk of change off of those fifty million. 186 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: Seventy five per game. 187 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 188 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: Who is the best person on the Netflix telecasts? 189 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: Oh? 190 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: Because they had I mean they had eight hundred people 191 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: that they trust everybody. 192 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've had every person. I really liked Laura Rutledge 193 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 4: and the mccordy's I thought that that was a really good, 194 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: good parent, caring like they all three of them worked 195 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 4: really well together. 196 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: I thought that was good. I thought Noah Eagle did 197 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 3: a great job. 198 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: He's good. 199 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: I thought he did a really good job. 200 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: He was a topic of conversation at our house just 201 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 4: because of how good he was. 202 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: We've always thought he was good though, right, Yeah, well, 203 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean twenty eight now I. 204 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: Think, yeah, something like that. 205 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the real thing. 206 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: He didn't act like twenty eight. 207 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: No, not, Well, he's like his dad. I mean he's 208 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: like his dad. Clearly he has had some advantages because 209 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: of who his dad is. But the bottom line is 210 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: it's what you do with the advantage. Yeah, and it's 211 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody who sees him and goes, well, 212 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't belong. Yeah, you're like and he The first 213 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: thing you say is you go, he's twenty eight. Yeah. 214 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: When I listened to him to a game, I'm not 215 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: distracted by him, yep. 216 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: Which he just does a game. 217 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Which is his dad. 218 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: Straight, that's his dad too. 219 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's what you do say that I'm pretty distracted. No, 220 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: you're not distracted. 221 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: You'll distract believe you're both you move a lot, move 222 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: a lot. 223 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: I'm pretty close to you. I'm not distracted. I'm with 224 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: you all right. 225 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Topic too. This is a coach mac question. Titans and 226 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars will play for the second time in three weeks. 227 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: When you play a team that quickly back to back 228 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: as a coach, what do you have to change? 229 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: The first thing you do, if you lost the game, 230 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: you go back and you pull it apart and find 231 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: out where we lost it. This one's a pretty easy one. 232 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: You find out where you lost it. You didn't score 233 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: when you got down in the red zone because you 234 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: move the football right, ended up kicking. So you parse 235 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: that what happened on the first, second and third down 236 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: that made us have to kick field goals in the 237 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: low red zone. The next thing you pull apart, you 238 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: pull apart the second half where Brian Thomas Junior was 239 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: a non factor in the first half and then all 240 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: of a sudden he was all they had in the 241 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: second half. You look at that and say, we've got 242 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: to do something to start from game from the start 243 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: of the game to keep him out of it. The 244 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: third part of it is you look at what's been 245 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: given you issues that the opponent is looking at on tape. 246 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: You've got to get the run fixed. You got to 247 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: get the run defense fixed. That's what you do. You 248 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: look at what's happened to you. You look at what 249 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: they're looking at. They will go back and look at 250 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: the game and say, we were able to stop them 251 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: in the low red zone. So let's see what they 252 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: present us down there, and then they're going to feed 253 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: the ball. Brian Thomas Jr. You know that that's getting 254 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: ready to happen, and you have got to be able 255 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: to solidify your run defense because Tank Bixby is their 256 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: running back now at the end is a third down back. 257 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: So that's what you got to do, all right. 258 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: So that takes us to topic three, and that is 259 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: something that happened on the Brian Callahan Show on Monday 260 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: night that we did. We had Jeff Logoman on and 261 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: one of my favorite he's fantastic. I mean, they between 262 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: Frank Frangie, Tony Boselli and Jeff Logoman, great group that 263 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars have a great broadcast, no question. So when Amy 264 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: and I had him on, we mentioned that Brian Thomas 265 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: Junior was not involved in the first half of the 266 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Titans Jags game. On December eighth, and he informed us 267 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:57,359 Speaker 1: that he was to be involved, and that mac Jones 268 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: apparently checked to other things things, and so in the 269 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: first half of the game, Brian Thomas Junior two targets, 270 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: no catches. 271 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: That's not involved. 272 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Okay. At halftime, apparently Brian Thomas Junior was going to 273 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: be part of the game plan because mac Jones was 274 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: told don't check. Yeah, no more checking. Ten targets in 275 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: the second half of the game, eight catches, eighty six yards. 276 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: There it is, okay. And then against the Jets fourteen targets, 277 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: ten catches, one hundred five yards, two touchdowns. Against the 278 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: Raiders last weekend, thirteen targets, nine catches, one thirty two 279 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: and a sixty two yard touchdown. So since mac Jones, 280 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: according to Jeff Loghman, was told don't check, Brian Thomas 281 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: Junior has thirty seven the last two and a half games. 282 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior thirty seven targets. 283 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: Yep. 284 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: On those thirty seven targets, twenty seven catches, three hundred 285 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: and twenty three yards in three touchdowns. 286 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: You think mac Jones's got the memo. 287 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question. But my question is 288 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: how often does that happen in the NFL that you 289 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: that back from your coaching days or from what you 290 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: know of the league, that you put something in a 291 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: game plan and it doesn't go the way you want 292 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: it to because of a player decision. Let's call it 293 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: and you come in and go listen, that's just we're 294 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: going to do this. 295 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: I've seen it. Of course, it depends on the quarterback. Okay, 296 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: it mostly happens with veteran quarterbacks. Okay, okay, that's number one. 297 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: I've experienced it. But I've also experienced it because not 298 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: only mac Jones was told, but the play caller was told. 299 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: I've experienced that at I've seen the head coach with 300 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: a play caller at halftime when it wasn't quite going right, 301 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: come up with a play sheet and say, look, I'm 302 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: thinking of doing this and give me that thing. Here's 303 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: what you're doing. You're going upstairs. I'm calling this thing. 304 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: So it happens, ye, Well, it seems like it was 305 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: a good decision. 306 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: However, here's here's the here's the bad decision. Not doing 307 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: it in the first half. 308 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: Well, we we thought it was a great but Mike, 309 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: you remember doing the game we were a little bit like, 310 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: why are you not throwing to that guy? 311 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: Why is that? Because that guy's really good? He is, 312 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: and we we went you know, it. 313 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 4: Just wasn't there, guys, two targets, said he only had 314 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: two targets. 315 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: Two targets. 316 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: Wasn't there? 317 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: And then the second half thing about three straight plays, 318 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: it's it's like, Okay, we're gonna make this so obvious 319 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: to our own people that this is what we're doing. 320 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna throw to him on the next three plays, 321 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: whether he's open or not. If it's first and one, 322 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: we're throwing the ball because. 323 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: I need you to get the picture. 324 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: Yes, we need everyone on the same page. 325 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: And that's what happened. So anyway, that's what the Titans 326 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: need to be ready for from the jump. 327 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: From the jump, I mean, the guy's averaging eight targets 328 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: a half since that game. That's wild, and that might 329 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: be low. I mean they may throw to him twenty 330 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: times on Sunday, and let. 331 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: Me tell you, because of what's where they are and 332 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: what they he's their best weapon. 333 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, he's really good to Is he even 334 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: a little better than you thought he would be? 335 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: Yes? 336 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Because everybody's like Melik Neighbors, Milik Neighbors coming out 337 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: of LSU. 338 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: Well, see the thing on this guy was Mike notrupt. 339 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: But you know that's how deep we do the draft. Sure, 340 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: everybody thought this guy's really good, but he's just a 341 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: linear dude. In other words, this is the guy that 342 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: you can use with somebody that has got all the 343 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: nuance route running and you can just you can run 344 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: him through the defense and you know he'll be able 345 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: to make the combat kit. He's really good at the 346 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: nuanced routes and I mean he's better quicker than I 347 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: thought he would be. 348 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: Well, what's funny is he was taking twenty third in 349 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: the first round. Remember Justin Jefferson went twenty second exactly, 350 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: and people were kind of like, well, he's a really 351 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: good athlete, but is he a really good receive? That's it, 352 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: and that's what it feels like. That's what Brian Thomas 353 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: Junior was too. 354 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 2: That's it. That that was exactly it because everybody loved 355 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: the package. Is it just is it nuanced enough, early 356 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: enough and clearly it is. Wow, Yeah, he's all right 357 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: unless you just get him two targets that it doesn't 358 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: work so well, looks great, for your opponent. 359 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. 360 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna happen again. 361 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: Guys, not gonna happen. 362 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: I don't get that feeling. 363 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 4: No Titans fans With a Kroger Boost membership, you'll score 364 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 4: big with double fuel points, free delivery, and lots more. 365 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: Go to Kroger dot com slash boost for details. Kroger 366 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: Official grocer of the Tennessee Titans. 367 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: Tighten Up. 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What's 376 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: going on with the Titans defense in December? 377 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: The first thing, when you're coaching defense and people can 378 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: run the ball on you, that makes everything on ravel 379 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: because now what has to happen, whether you want to 380 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: or not, you need to start borrowing from the back end, okay, 381 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: to get up there and help it. Now, when you 382 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: do that and you put yourself in single high defense 383 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: all the time, single high defense is the easiest deal. 384 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: That's a safety in the middle with people down, everybody 385 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: else down. That's the easiest defense in the world. For 386 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: quarterbacks to read single high. You know, it's why everybody 387 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: starts out. They start out in a shell with too 388 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: deep and then morph into whatever you want to do. 389 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: But if you're having trouble stopping the run that the 390 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: Titans have had two out of the last you know, 391 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: the Washington game particularly and the Indianapolis game, and you 392 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: have to start borrowing people to bring it down there. 393 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: Then when you're calling defenses, it puts everything caddywompus. I mean, 394 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you're 395 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: on your left foot defensively. And plus those eight gaps 396 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: haven't changed in the history of foot I watched practice 397 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 2: every day. I watched them practice against this RPO and 398 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: some But you've got to be specific assignment sound. If 399 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: you're not or if you're late at the second level 400 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: where they're running gap schemes which they're doing now with 401 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: the r PO gap scheme is where they're pulling a guard, 402 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: pulling both guards pull a tackle. But you've got to 403 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 2: replace gaps. If you're not replacing gaps fast enough from 404 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: the second and the third and whoever the borrow guy 405 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: is for the plus one for the quarterback. If you're 406 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: not replacing gaps fast enough, you got problems. And that's 407 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: what's happened. 408 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 4: Can I ask a logistic question, who is responsible for 409 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: making those gap adjustments? Is that the players on the 410 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 4: field as it's happening, Is that the coach change. 411 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: All week in practice those that scheme was not anything 412 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: that they hadn't practiced. It's the same scheme without the 413 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: true quarterback being the runner that the Titans run. Gap 414 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: schemes have come back. It used to be all inside, 415 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: all outside zone. I mean that was in vogue for 416 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: a long time. Before that, it was the eye formation 417 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: with the power plays. Okay, now everybody still has elements 418 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: of all of those things. But these gap schemes, especially 419 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: with these quarterbacks now that are that are runners. You 420 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: you practice it all week, there's not anything different. And 421 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: it also goes along with what I call a crunch. 422 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: You hear me call that a crunt where they bring 423 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: a tight end and use him as the next replaced 424 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: blocker behind the line of scrimmage. He'll come behind the line. 425 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: But all of that is practiced and so and especially nowadays, 426 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 2: Amy with those tablets that you have used to be 427 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: when you had those print outs, I mean you had 428 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: to really be Sherlock Holmes to read those print outs 429 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 2: and understand because I had to snap them, you know 430 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: at particular times. Now with these tablets you can see 431 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: exactly what's happening. But that is that's what drives you 432 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: nuts as a player and as a coach. When you've 433 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 2: practiced it, you know what they're doing and you can't 434 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: stop it. That's the issue. 435 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: So you talk about the fact that the aid gaps 436 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: haven't changed ever. Ever. When we used to play years 437 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: ago against wishbone teams or veer teams or wing tee teams, 438 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: the big thing that we were taught is that you 439 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: have got to stay in your lane and that you've 440 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 1: got to keep your outside free. If we were in 441 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: base defense, you got to keep your outside free so 442 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: they couldn't turn you and open the holes. Things like 443 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: that is it as simple as that. Even today, that 444 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: guys are just taking bad angles to the holes and 445 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: are getting their outside edges blocked, or things like that 446 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: are happening. 447 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: Or you're not getting your edge set fast enough, right, 448 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: not getting your edge set fast enough, you're not replacing. 449 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, linebackers are really important in this. 450 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 2: First of all, it's hard on the defensive front of 451 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: the interior because when you pull people now they're getting 452 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: angle blocked, they're getting down blocked. So what they've got 453 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 2: to do is this his polls. Now, I've got to 454 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: play into this and not only play, you know, horizontally 455 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 2: into the guy coming down on me, but then I've 456 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: got to try to get vertical. Okay, that's number one. 457 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: With all the with all the pin and pull, pin 458 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: and poll, that's what it's what it's called. But the 459 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: guys replacing, they're the guys that have to jump gaps. 460 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: And not only jump gaps. You can't jump, you can't 461 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: replace gaps and keep running sideways, right, because when you 462 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 2: run sideways, all that happens is it stretches like this. 463 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: Then if you don't get the edge set quick enough, 464 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: and these guys don't react quick enough and you can't 465 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: and you're getting blocked down on. That's why that that 466 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: seventy yard run, I mean that was that was to 467 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: the post safety with nothing but turf, right, nothing but turf. 468 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: And then you've got a guy that runs four nothing, 469 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: he's going to outrun you. So what you've got to 470 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: be able to do. Everybody has their part in it. 471 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: You've got to keep your part in it until it 472 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: is here all the time. You set an edge, build 473 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: a wall, right, and then run and hit. 474 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: Just the reason I asked that question is because what 475 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about is what we were taught. 476 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's what it is got, you know, fundamental. 477 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: Whether they were taking you've got to get to your spot. 478 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: You got to beat that guy to the spot, and 479 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: you absolutely cannot get hooked. Whatever it is. Do not 480 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: get hooked because you've got a hustle to the spot. 481 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: Because players of today, even on defense, don't do that 482 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: a lot. Growing up, they don't play against that sort 483 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: of as this comes back into vogue, did they know 484 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: how to do that? Now? They do? 485 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: Because you sure you practice it, but you've got see 486 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 2: you can practice it all you want, right, but until 487 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: you get on the turf at full speed and everything 488 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: is rolling. I mean, it has to happen so fast 489 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: that And again, I've coached with these coaches against I mean, 490 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: when Russell Wilson came into the league, he brought that 491 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: to Seattle because that's what he did at Wisconsin, right, 492 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: was the RPO. And so we had we brought RPO coaches, 493 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: offensive coaches from college, the best ones, the best ones 494 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: to come in and give us clinics on what heard it? 495 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 2: On what heard it? 496 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Okay, but isn't it fascinating it just talking about it. 497 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: I like the fact that you bring up single wing, 498 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: that you bring up wishbone. Oh, sure, they're all the same. 499 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: Those principles are the same. 500 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: But that's what's so incredible. I Mean, when Tom Landry 501 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: brought the shotgun to Dallas, everybody thought, well, this is crazy. 502 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: It's like, no, this is the single wing. He grew 503 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: up playing. He knew what this was. These are still 504 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: elements of things that we saw commonly in the seventies 505 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: and eighties that are now being used in different ways. 506 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: But the principles about how you have to play defense 507 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: against it are still the same. Is that you've got 508 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: to think on defense. You can't just I mean, listen 509 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: if if I if I've got it right, and correct 510 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. But I mean, if you just 511 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: turn it loose and start running upfield, and guys start 512 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: running around blocks, which is some of what you're seeing 513 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: in the I mean, if a guy runs around a block, 514 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: he's taking himself out of the play. 515 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, not only himself. If you run around a block, 516 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: then you've also got somebody else that is that. Now, 517 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: Now the guy replacing behind you has got it, has 518 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: got a cross face of two blockers right to be 519 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: able to get where. Yeah, I mean, it's a siment football. 520 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a signment football. See. I 521 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: used to love it coaching linebackers when somebody was going 522 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: to just put a single back back there and run 523 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: inside and outside zone. And I had a defense, you know, 524 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: the defensive front was getting off and knocking back and 525 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: it was it was one back, one gap. If I can, if, 526 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: if if I can go downhill in that gap and 527 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: teach by linebackers, this is your gap. You go downhill 528 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: and into this gap. If you're the backside guy and 529 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: you're the overlap guy, then we can start talking about now, 530 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: how how are we going to play the point, Because 531 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: at times, what you'll start to do, you talk about 532 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: keeping your outside arm free, Then what you start to 533 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 2: do is a defense. Then you start to you start 534 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: to spill the block. So the guy's coming to try 535 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: to reach it, you go underneath him or you you 536 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: set him inside and you create the roadblock going outside. 537 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: So it's a ying and the yang type of thing. 538 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: But if you don't ever get it done early, you 539 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: got a problem. 540 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because and again I'm referring to years and years ago, 541 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: if we did try a stunt, then the people behind 542 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: us would know, oh, they're gonna stunt here, So I 543 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: have to so I need to go more outside. 544 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it has to it's it's coordinated, right, 545 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: It's like piano keys. I mean, you know it's it's 546 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: coordinated it and it has to be. But the element is, 547 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: and the element in this league when you've got quarterbacks 548 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: like Jaden Daniels or you've got one like Richardson, now 549 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: that are runners first, legitimate runners first. Then you've got 550 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: to start plus one and then the old wishbone techniques 551 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: coming to mean because now I mean, somebody's got to 552 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: have the mesh, somebody's got to have the quarterback, and 553 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: then somebody's got to have the perimeter. Now it's not 554 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: so much the pitch anymore, Mike. Now the pitch part 555 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: of it has become the throw on the RPO. The 556 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: pitch has become the throw from the wishbone now. And 557 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: then they read different things. They see how you're playing it, 558 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: and they'll read the front side linebacker, or they'll read 559 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: the back sideline backer. They'll read the three technique, they'll 560 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: read the five technique. It's we can go deep if 561 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: you want to. 562 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: It's amazing to see some of this. I mean I 563 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: saw play in an NFL game recently where they actually 564 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: optioned the full back just like out of the old wishbone. 565 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: They rode the full back through and left the ball 566 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: in his belly and he went for I can't remember 567 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: as a first down or a touchdown or whatever. Yeah, 568 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: but it's like those It's fascinating how things come back. 569 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, and you know, as I said, I mentioned before, 570 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: we brought those guys into letting. When I know, you 571 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: sit and listen to a clinic on this stuff, and 572 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 2: then they start telling you what they're going to read, 573 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: which Are they going to read the three technique? Are 574 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: they going to read the shade, They're going to read 575 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: the backside linebacker, They're going to read the front side 576 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: outside back. 577 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: It's yeah, we see some actual option now where they 578 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: do option the end, which is crazy. 579 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: Well, people are people. People are optioning now. And then 580 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: they've got the wham person. Uh yeah, you know the 581 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: wham principle where they bring somebody from the outside. Now 582 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: that that Dan Lyman is looking and all of a sudden, 583 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: he's not blocked and instead of somebody coming here, somebody's 584 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: ear holding him here. 585 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Topic five. Titans have signed a kicker to the practice squad. 586 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: There you go. 587 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: They had Braydon Nervisen last week when they didn't know 588 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: if Nick Folk couldn't go. Turned out Nick Folk couldn't go. 589 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: Narvisen kicked in the game. He was released on Monday, 590 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: and on Thursday they signed Matthew Wright to the practice squad. 591 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: Matthew Wright, and we don't know if he'll kick or not, 592 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: but he's on the practice squad. Yeah. He's appeared in 593 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: twenty seven games. He's converted fifty one of fifty nine 594 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: field goals, so he's only masty eight that's good. Forty 595 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: of forty two extra points. He has twenty four touchbacks 596 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: on ninety four kickoffs, right as seven of eleven on 597 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: field goals of fifty plus with a long of fifty 598 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: nine against Las Vegas in twenty twenty two while he 599 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: was playing for the Chiefs. So there you go. Bizarre 600 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: off season story for this guy. First of all, he 601 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: comes into the league in twenty nineteen. 602 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: First of all, can I just say something. 603 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: It's not weirder than selling bricks off season? 604 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: Uh? I mean career stories for kickers. It's all bizarre 605 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: because they're like this. You know how Saturn has a 606 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: lot of rings around him. Yes, that's the world they 607 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: live in. 608 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting he would say that because when he so. 609 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 3: He kicked, he lived in a Saturn. 610 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: They lived in a Saturn. He helped make saturns in 611 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: spring Hill years ago. No. Actually, so he goes to UCF. Okay, yeah, yep. 612 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: He interns with Lockheed Martin while he aerospace engineering. Yeah, 613 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: while he's at UCF. So after he tries out for 614 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: the NFL and gets cut, he goes to work for 615 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: Lockheed Martin. 616 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: Of course he does as an aerospace engineer. 617 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: I guess. So then he decides he's going to try 618 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: the kicking thing. So obviously they're not going to let 619 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: you just come and go as you please at a 620 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: place like Luckheed Martin. So he's been around different places. 621 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: We saw him in twenty twenty one. I'll go back 622 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: to this in a moment, but let me give you 623 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: his off season this year. Okay, twenty twenty four. So 624 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: Matthew Wright spent the two twenty twenty four offseason with 625 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh before they waived him August twenty sixth, twenty twenty four. 626 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: So right at the end of training camp. Okay, all right, 627 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: So he does nothing with a team for six weeks. 628 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: Is He's signed by San Francisco to replace the injured 629 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: Jake Moody on October eighth. He makes all three of 630 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: his field goal attempts at Seattle on October tenth, Good job. 631 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: Stays with the team until November fifteenth, when they wave. 632 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 3: It Okay, no longer in San Francis. 633 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: So he's no longer in San Francisco as of the 634 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: middle of November. Wright was then signed to the Kansas 635 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: City practice. 636 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: Squad just three teams. 637 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: Eleven days later, November twenty sixth, He made four of 638 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: five field goals against Las Vegas on November twenty ninth. 639 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: He then hit four of four field goals, including a 640 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: thirty one yard game winner that banged off the left 641 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: upright against the Chargers. On December the eighth, Wright was 642 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: named the AFC Special Teams Player of the Week. There 643 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: you go, and the same week he was cut. He 644 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: was cut December fourteenth, twenty twenty four. So he signs 645 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: with the Titans twelve days later, the day after Christmas, 646 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: December the twenty sixth. But he's also part of one 647 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: of the more bizarre stories that technically involves the Titans. 648 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: Do you remember when urban Meyer was coaching Jacksonville in 649 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. 650 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 3: I liked it when Yeah, that was a good time 651 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 3: for us. 652 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: I liked it when he was Yes, he did a 653 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: really good job. 654 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, we really love that. 655 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: So he gets into they have a kicker who's out 656 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: of this world named Josh Lambeau. 657 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 658 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Josh Lambeau misses a couple of field goals 659 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: in preseason allegend, urban Meyer comes. I think they said 660 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: he kicked him duringstrac and he said, hey, dip blank 661 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: fill in the blank, dip blank blank. Uh, this is 662 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: allegedly make your blank and field goals. 663 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: That's okay, that's normal. That's good. 664 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: So the Josh Lambo thing didn't didn't go well, so 665 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: they eventually cut Josh Lambeau, who gets off to Not surprisingly, 666 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: Josh Lambo is a little wigged out by the whole thing. Yes, 667 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: allegedly started the year of three and they cut him. 668 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: They replaced him with Matthew Right. There we go, Matthew right. 669 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,479 Speaker 1: So we go down there to play and Matthew Wright 670 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: is just off the practice squad. He's like, what here? 671 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: I yeah, And Matthew Wright ends up missing a fifty 672 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: three yarder against the Titans, missed an extra point against 673 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: the Titans. Would play against the Titans later in the year, 674 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: but all he did was kick off one time. Because 675 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: the Titans won that game twenty to nothing. That that 676 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: was the last that's the last Titans shutout. Yeah, so 677 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: he's kicked against the Titans twice. He's also kicked for Pittsburgh, 678 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Sancisco, San Francisco. He's spent time with Atlanta, 679 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: with Detroit. It's he has good numbers. 680 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 2: See, I'm so glad that you share this with the 681 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 2: ot people like this because this is what we get 682 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 2: in the booth all the time, the crazy. 683 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: This is the part of it. They start to glaze over. 684 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: You have got information on information and and and and 685 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: an interesting minutia. 686 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: It's not is it? 687 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, I love it. I mean I absolutely love it. 688 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: Final fact on Josh Lambeau, just to wrap it up 689 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 1: in a bow. Yeah, do you remember the last team 690 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: Josh Lambeau kicked for no, No, he was the Titans 691 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: kicker during in the Thursday night when at Green Bay 692 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, he. 693 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 3: Made during all of our kicker chaos. 694 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: Well, Randy Bullock was heard. 695 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: That's when Bullock got it. 696 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: And so he made three or four extra points. That 697 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: was the last game Josh Lambeau ever kicked in in 698 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. 699 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 2: And when Josh Lambeau was here, nobody kicked him during stretch. 700 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 3: That we know of, allegedly allegedly. 701 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 2: It is so just so love that. Again, I go 702 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 2: back to that's the world those kickers living. 703 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 704 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 2: It's a whole different subset of people. 705 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 3: It really is. But that's the best way. 706 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: To explain this to me. And I want you to 707 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: be totally serious with this answer, right, I mean, I 708 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: don't know if Matthew Writ's kicking Sunday or not. No, 709 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: I would think Nick Folk wants to go. Hopefully he does, 710 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: but whatever, yep, But what in handling them? I mean, 711 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: this guy, he's been all over the place trying to 712 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: keep a job. He's had some success. There's got to 713 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: be a part of him that wonders, why hasn't somebody 714 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: just given me a real shot. He's made fifty one 715 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: of fifty nine field goals in the NFL, but nobody 716 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: has ever chosen him as their guy. So you know 717 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: this is in this person. How do you handle them 718 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 1: as a coach? When you as a head coach? Yes, 719 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: I never talked to him, really, No. I would hire 720 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: the best special teams coach I. 721 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: Could hire everywhere. I was right, ended up with a 722 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 2: great one in Bones Fossil. 723 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: Oh. 724 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff Fisher. You'd say Jeff Fisher was a pretty 725 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 2: good head coach for a lot of years. Right. He 726 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: never messed with the Kickers, never met hired special teams coaches. 727 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 2: The only thing Fish would do on special teams with 728 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 2: a special teams coach is draw up all that fake 729 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 2: stuff that aj Trapasso, right, all the stuff that we 730 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: used to do. He'd get involved in that. But technically 731 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 2: teaching them, it's like, these guys are like golfers, right, Yeah, 732 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: they've got swing coaches and they've got particular ways they 733 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 2: do it. And if you get in there, I knew 734 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 2: that I didn't know anything about technically to talk. Now 735 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: I could tell them, look, those two yellow things go 736 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: between them. I will tell them that. Glad to have 737 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: you here, you know, and put you on our shoulders 738 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: when you make it. Congratulations. You're a big part of 739 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 2: this team. But you start messing with those guys if 740 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 2: you don't really understand what they go through. I mean, 741 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 2: it's a you, it's they're just like golfers, man. Because 742 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 2: to your point, this dude, you watch the PGA too, Yes, yeah, 743 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 2: how pure those guys are. But you also if you 744 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 2: watch tournaments, you watch them hit off, shank one, sure, 745 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: pull one left, whole one. Right. Well, what it's a 746 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: it's it's an amazing thing. 747 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: But the guys that we're watching on the PGA Tour 748 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: are the guys who are out there every week. We 749 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 1: don't often get to see the guys who get in 750 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: on one sponsors exemption a year or or they're trying 751 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: to keep their card. I mean, yeah, I mean we see, 752 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, we see all the guys who are the things. 753 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: We don't see the ones who are fighting, you know, 754 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: because every once in a while one of them gets 755 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: in the last two or three groups of the day, 756 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: but rarely. I mean, Nick Folk's a guy who's kept 757 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: a job in the league forever. Yeah, Matthew Writ's twenty 758 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: eight years old. I don't know how you do that. 759 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's trying to get his card. He's trying to 760 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 4: catch on. 761 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 2: And the thing about it is all of these guys 762 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 2: can kick. Oh yeah, they can all Just like the 763 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 2: golfers that are on the that are on those those 764 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 2: tour minor tours trying to get there, they can all 765 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 2: play better than ten two percent. They're the two percent 766 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 2: that can play at that level. Yeah, And so it's 767 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: just that's why you've got to appreciate a guy like 768 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 2: Nick Folk. That's why we appreciated a guy like when 769 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: we had Craig Hentrick here, sure, I mean, because to 770 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: do it year after year after game after game after game. Mike, 771 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 2: you remember when Fish, when we were having when we 772 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: were having all those kicking problems, and we when we 773 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 2: brought Gary Gary Anderson, Gary Anderson back in, brought Gary 774 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 2: Anderson back in this true story. Now Gary Anderson runs 775 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 2: a fly fishing camp in Canada. 776 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 3: Well, sure, why wouldn't he expert expert? 777 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 2: So we brought when fish call and brought him in. 778 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 2: Said hey, Gary, we need you. Now. You called a 779 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 2: lot of his field goal. Sure if it was if 780 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 2: it was a thirty nine yard er, he kicked it 781 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 2: thirty nine and a half. If it was forty two, 782 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: he kicked it forty two and a half. It had 783 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 2: just easy. But during practice he would set up rings 784 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 2: in the indoor and practice fly fishing, you know, throwing 785 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 2: it in, throwing it in rings, and then when it 786 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,959 Speaker 2: was time to kick, send Matt Thompson in there. Matt, 787 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 2: go get Gary. It'd come out okay, so make it 788 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 2: six or seven, go back in. 789 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: But you know Jeff wanted him so badly. You'll remember 790 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: this that when Joe Nedney got hurt for a second time, Yes, 791 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, they couldn't get Gary in 792 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: in time because he had stuff that he had to 793 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: do with his business. Yes, so they used was it 794 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: Aaron elling, I think that's who it was that we 795 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,959 Speaker 1: used for a week that ended up having to punt 796 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: in the Miami game. He was the AFC Special Teams 797 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: Player of the Week and then we waived him on 798 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: Monday to bring Gary here. It is because Gary wasn't 799 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: trying to do any of that macho stuff. He was 800 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: not trying to see how far he could kick it. 801 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: Coach said it just right. All Gary was trying to 802 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: do is make it and that was it. I mean, 803 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: he was going to make the field goal. He was 804 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: not going to show you how strong his leg was, 805 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: and he wasn't about setting records or anything like that. 806 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: He just made the field goal and he left. But 807 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: he was so reliable, and reliability is what you want, 808 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: and that's what and that's what Jeff wanted, is that 809 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: they said, well, we understand Gary can't get here in time, 810 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: so we'll use this guy as a one game filling. 811 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 3: He just made the field goals and then left. 812 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: It. I could show you footage he would hit the 813 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: kick and then start towards the sidelines. He would he 814 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: would not. I'm not saying it's not. 815 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 3: That he was not interested. 816 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 4: He was just he wouldn't watch it. 817 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: He wouldn't watch it. No, he didn't watch it, and 818 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: and and again. He didn't stand and admire how far 819 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: up the netted hit or anything. 820 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 821 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: He all he did was make it and then he left. 822 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 2: I mean it was he was. 823 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: He's a great dude from Sweden. Yeah he was. 824 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 2: He was. Yeah, he was one of the best dudes 825 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 2: in the history of guys. I really loved guy because 826 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: he was so called. Back to the PGA Tour. You 827 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: ever watched Freddy Couples play golf? Yes, even at this age. 828 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 2: I mean it is silk still smooth. Yeah, and he 829 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 2: did Ernie L's that's the same swing. But but this 830 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 2: is like Gary when hit it, just walk start walking. 831 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: I know it's good. 832 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: Hey, Titans fans, seat Geek makes it easy to find 833 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: tickets so you can be a part of all the 834 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: touchdown celebrations this season. 835 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 5: Whether you're buying or selling football tickets, seat Geek is 836 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 5: the place to do it. Seat Geek is the official 837 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 5: primary ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titan. 838 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: The most disruptive idea in ticketing ticket that works expect 839 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: the expected, see geek. Seed Geek made a rookie mistake 840 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: this football season. Maybe you should have had Snickers, because. 841 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 5: Now you can enter for the chance to turn those 842 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 5: rookie mistakes into prizes, including a trip to Super Bowl 843 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 5: fifteen Nile. 844 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: Visit Snickers dot com slash Rookie Mistakes for details. Time 845 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 1: for the key ingredients of the game, delivered by Little Caesars. 846 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: As the Titans get ready to play Jacksonville, here we go. 847 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: Key number one. Run the football. The Titans did run 848 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: the football well against the Jaguars on December eighth. Tennessee 849 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 1: had control of that game, and while they didn't finish 850 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: the job that day, the run game was not the issue. 851 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: Fine place to start towards offensive success in Jacksonville on Sunday, 852 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: Key number two. Get the Jaguars in third and five 853 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: plus with titand Evan Ingram out for the season with 854 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: a shoulder injury, Jacksonville's best run after the catch weapon 855 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: is not available. If quarterback Mac Jones has to hold 856 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: the football to wait on receivers to come open on 857 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: third and five or more chances for a sack and 858 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: an interception increase. Key number three. Play the same game 859 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: only better. This is incredible. The loss to Jacksonville on 860 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: December eighth was the first time in the sixty five 861 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: year history of the franchise that the Titans have lost 862 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: a game when they have been plus two in turnover 863 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 1: ratio and limited the opponent to ten points or less. 864 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: That won't happen again. So when turnover ratio hold Jacksonville 865 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: to ten points or less, but this time take better 866 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: advantage of opportunities to score touchdowns. If the Titans do that, 867 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: this Sunday history shows Tennessee will not lose. 868 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 3: You've stopped trying your way over head. 869 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 1: Well, I stopped trying on the key points. 870 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 3: You stop trying on the time time limit? 871 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: Yep, well nobody cared. 872 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 3: I care. 873 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 4: Little Caesars is the official pizza partner of your Tennessee Titans. 874 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 4: Download the Little Caesars app and get your favorites delivered today. 875 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 4: Delivery fees apply. That's why I said, we need to 876 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 4: start implementing consequences for when you went over and you 877 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 4: vetoed that decision. 878 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 3: Hey on, give me your pizzas trade mayonnaise. Yes, I 879 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 3: have a squeeze. 880 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: Bottle a mayotivation from Helman's Mayo. 881 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 4: Titans cheers be loud, and your buffalo chicken damp make 882 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 4: your mama proud. 883 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: Should we publicize Buffalo. 884 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's Buffalo chicken, not the city of. 885 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 2: It could be. 886 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 3: I'm just reading what's in there. I tried to say 887 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 3: deviled eggs. Shut me down. 888 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 4: Helman's the official mayo of the Tennessee Titans. 889 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 3: Mayo game day be delicious. 890 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: You know. 891 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 4: I heard that on a commercial and they really undersold 892 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 4: that line, and I was really disappointed. But I try 893 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 4: to give it a lot of gusto, and I felt 894 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 4: like they weren't even trying. 895 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: Maybe so huh. 896 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 3: It made me I notice it every time. 897 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: Well, here's our mayotivation. Don't kick your kicker. Don't kick 898 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: your kicker in warm up it's stretched. 899 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 3: Don't kick anybody, don't kick people, just don't do that. 900 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: And of all the things, and don't let Santa in 901 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: your house. 902 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 4: Don't let's say, hey, this is not a problem at 903 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 4: my home any longer. It's over. The threat has been neutralized. 904 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 4: Santa's thank you for doing this until Easter. 905 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for sitting in the Snickers hot seat. 906 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: Coach Man. 907 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: I love the Snickers hot seat. I love the Snickers 908 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 2: hot seat. I stole the whole jar Snickers. We know 909 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 2: the first time I was here. We're aware. 910 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 4: I know. 911 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 2: I took it. 912 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna fill it with mayonnaise next time. See if 913 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 3: you steal that. 914 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: Probably delicious but harder to give away. 915 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 3: You would steal it for coach. 916 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis and Amy Wells. I might keep thanking you 917 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: for joining us for the OTP pre game