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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Back in the saddle here on a Tuesday, Chris brown

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Speaker 2: Sky task me with you One Bill's Live is the

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Speaker 2: show as we closed in on the NFL schedule release

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Speaker 2: and perhaps an accidental oopsie by an NFL mom. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into that in just a second. Regarding the schedule,

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Speaker 2: as NFL moms are now news leakers, shall we say.

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Speaker 3: Why you do? Mom? Yeah? Mom?

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Speaker 2: No, I on Mother's Day weekend, a week of all things.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in justice second.

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Speaker 3: That might be there. That might we have a Twitter

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Speaker 3: question tomorrow. What's the worst thing your mom's ever done

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Speaker 3: to you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? That'd be a rich that'd be a rich show.

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Speaker 3: Jason and Travis Kelsey are both on the phone.

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Speaker 2: Mom, seriously, what's going on? What's gotten into you? No,

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Speaker 2: don't know, that is not that was privileged information. Mom.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Well we might as well get to it

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Speaker 2: now that we've kind of hinted.

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Speaker 3: I can't I can't resist. That is too funny.

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Speaker 2: According to a post on Twitter from Nerding on NFL,

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Speaker 2: that's the handle Travis and Jason Kelsey's mom, Donna Kelsey,

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Speaker 2: who was all over the place super Bowl week because

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Speaker 2: both of her sons were playing in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Last February, she was doing interviews with her split jersey

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Speaker 2: you know, half Eagles, half Chiefs, the whole thing. On

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Speaker 2: a Facebook comment said that the Chiefs game in Germany

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Speaker 2: this season would be in November. That was part one.

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Speaker 2: Part two was it was going to be the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 2: Now we saw reports yesterday that the Chiefs were asking

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Speaker 2: the Bears in Germany. The way I understand it is

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Speaker 2: teams can make suggestions to the league's schedule makers. For example,

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Speaker 2: the Bills in years past have said, we don't want

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Speaker 2: too many home games in December. They're harder for us

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Speaker 2: to sell out, so the schedule maker. So the schedule

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Speaker 2: makers they try to take this into account. They don't

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Speaker 2: putting the schedule together. There are more important fish they

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Speaker 2: had the rodeo thing for like certain weekends, and the

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Speaker 2: NFL could not schedule a home game for the Oilers

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Speaker 2: because of the Rodeos venue conflicts, so they have to

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Speaker 2: adhere to those, and there are some big ones that

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Speaker 2: are out there. You know, if Taylor Swift is performing

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Speaker 3: But you think about New Orleans and all the stuff

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Speaker 2: But they also get to make suggestions. So we heard

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Speaker 2: but according to Donna Kelcey, it's coming in November, Chiefs

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Speaker 2: said that the Eagles are going to play the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: in Week two in Arrowhead. This game obviously important to

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Speaker 2: Donna Kelcey because, just like the Super Bowl, it involves

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Speaker 2: her two sons. Why NFL moms get special clearance on

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Speaker 2: the schedule, if this is in fact legit is beyond me.

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Speaker 2: How does that happen? Because as we all know, it's

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Speaker 2: very difficult for moms to keep things quiet that a

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Speaker 3: There is that, But you gotta think too. She got

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Speaker 2: How does he know though, right, that's the thing, because

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Speaker 3: So it's he knows somebody who knows somebody who whatever, said, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm you know all of that. So hooked me up.

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Speaker 3: So he hooks him up. Little does he know that

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Speaker 2: His mom's out on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: His mom. He's gonna tell his mom say, hey, mom,

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a private post. But so my suspicion

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't double down on it.

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Speaker 2: Two days before the schedules released. My Mom's got Week

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Speaker 3: Perhaps probably the Chicago perhaps.

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Speaker 2: The Chicago the Chicago Chiefs games.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll we'll we'll wait about uh, we'll wait

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Speaker 3: Which has been totally spoiled by the.

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Speaker 2: Workings of one Donna Kelce.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, well now the Bills game has also been spoiled.

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Speaker 3: All that on the Tottenham Hotspur events calendar.

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Speaker 2: we'll we'll know in about twenty four hour, right, and

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, it ain't It ain't official until

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Speaker 3: Because they like they did, like they did today. It's like,

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Speaker 2: We got one more are they wait?

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Speaker 3: One more tea to cross, one more I to dot?

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Speaker 2: not happy with it? Well? I was happy with it

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Speaker 2: the leverage? If you're Patrick Mahomes agent, all you have

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Speaker 3: Well, really, you don't have to say that.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray has no right making more money per year

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Speaker 3: Yeah. All you got to do is say, hey, listen,

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Speaker 3: we need to raise period. You don't even have to

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Speaker 3: bring anything up. Say I'm Pat, you say, I'm Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: It's time to time to redo my deal. It's been

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Speaker 3: it's been two years or three years. Let's go, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: chop chop, that's it. And if you don't, he doesn't

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Speaker 3: we probably I can't even remember the conversation we had

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Speaker 3: deal for ten years, right, fifty million bucks a year

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Speaker 3: The thing about it is we should have known then,

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Speaker 2: So here's your countdown and average annual value currently at

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Speaker 3: Ten are Jalen, Aaron, Russell, Kyler on the top five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's something that does not fit there.

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Speaker 2: the management. Yeah yeah, that signed him to that contract.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the other problem. As soon as Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: people come with their hands out. It's not like the

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Speaker 2: be the Josh could be the next Domino after Mahomes

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Speaker 2: is done. When I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But Josh signs till twenty seven? Right signed? The last

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Speaker 3: twenty two.

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Speaker 3: He'll get a new deal in the new stadium at least.

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Speaker 2: it's coming. It's it's to me, it's inevitable. And now,

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Speaker 2: because Mahomes has reportedly said I want a new deal.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna it's gonna get tricky to navigate that pretty soon.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to argue with his you know reasoning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they'll watch, they'll watch until this one comes

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Speaker 3: Josh is always for the you know, for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be on the cusp of winning winning an

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Speaker 3: winning a super Bowl. If he does either of those things.

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Speaker 3: That's that right, then is when it should be done? Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: that's when it's gonna get done. They'll redo it if

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Speaker 2: One you just put, and everybody, including me, would sign

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Speaker 2: here's the thing, Much like the draft pick salaries for

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Speaker 3: We'd be somewhere between seventeen to twenty percent of the cap, yeah,

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Speaker 3: which would be and the CAP's going up twenty you know,

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Speaker 2: six quarterbacks that have signed new deals. Six quarterbacks that

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Speaker 3: That's right, But that's that's the way it's always been

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Speaker 2: I understand that, But I'm just wondering if they're going

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Speaker 2: So you're you're going to have to be tied to

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Speaker 3: Right, But that's what you're talking about when you get

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Speaker 3: So now that I'm this is why I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: Now I know we got all not.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's the AFC title game again.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say this too, because they're gonna get an

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's That's what it comes down to.

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Speaker 2: It's it's either the Bills or the or the Bengals

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they can have them at home.

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Speaker 2: They can have them at home. What a start, man, they're.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that I wanted to highlight was strength

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Speaker 2: the Giants all tied for third for that longest schedule.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know why that is they're all playing the

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Speaker 3: same schedule.

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Speaker 2: AFC's playing the NFCS this year.

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Speaker 3: They fall in the order and they're all tied for third.

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Speaker 3: Is because they play each other.

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Speaker 2: That's part of it. Yes, Dolphins have the second toughest

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Speaker 2: schedule in the league.

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Speaker 3: And that's because they're playing the Bills twice and the

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Speaker 3: Bills are playing the Dolphins, and that's why the Bills

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Speaker 3: are seventh in the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Number one hardest schedule in the league the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 2: But it's about time they face some adversity after having

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Speaker 2: a cake walk of a schedule last year and virtually

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Speaker 2: zero adversity zero. That's how they got to the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl last year. The Chiefs, if you're wondering, are all

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Speaker 2: the way down at sixteenth in terms of strength to schedule. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they if they come out of the gate. The Bengals, Eagles. Hello.

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Speaker 3: As you can see that, as you can figure the

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Speaker 3: line between team when you have a schedule that is

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Speaker 3: above five hundred, like you're playing a team with an

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Speaker 3: on average, everybody's has a winning record, and the line

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Speaker 3: where it falls belows between the Cincinnati Bengals, whose schedule

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Speaker 3: is a five point five fifty one point five to

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Speaker 3: one five ten winningers.

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Speaker 2: Their opponents are still over five hundred right.

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Speaker 3: Below them as the Bears, and that's four ninety seven

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Speaker 3: winning percentage, So and we always take that's seventeen and eighteen, right.

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Speaker 2: We always take this strength of schedule with a grain

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Speaker 2: of salt too, because it's based on last year, their opponents'

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Speaker 2: records from last year. There's nothing else to go on

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Speaker 2: right now. But as we know, a lot of these

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Speaker 2: teams look a whole lot different one year later.

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Speaker 3: Most important, the most incredible thing, we continue to do it.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen of the last twenty years. We talk about this

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Speaker 3: every year. Eighteen of the last twenty years, one team

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Speaker 3: has gone from worst in their division to first. Eighteen

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Speaker 3: of the last twenty years. And for the last thirty years,

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Speaker 3: four teams, not one. Four teams who were not in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs have gone to the playoffs. The next year,

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Speaker 3: four who were out of the playoffs are in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good chance these teams could make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of thinking that too. I'm certainly feeling

477
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Speaker 3: the Jets right about now, and if Tua stays healthy,

478
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Speaker 3: they could get in and they can catch lightning in

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Speaker 3: a bottle like they did last year. Offensively, Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 3: You won't be able to, and the Bills are absolutely

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Speaker 3: gonna be there. I think there's you know, you can

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Speaker 3: say what you want about count your chickens before they hatch.

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Speaker 3: But goodness gracious.

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Speaker 2: Free agency news that concerns two former Bills players. The

485
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Speaker 2: Dolphins are signing free agent tight end Tyler Croft. There

486
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Speaker 2: were reports by a few media members, both in Miami

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Speaker 2: and nationally, that Miami was interested in adding a tight

488
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Speaker 2: end with their first pick in round two, but they

489
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Speaker 2: missed on the tight end run at the top of

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Speaker 2: the round. Took a corner instead, Cam Smith out of

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Speaker 2: South Carolina. Croft, as we know, played for the Bills

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Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. He was a backup

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Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers last season. I had just

494
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Speaker 2: four receptions after spending twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: With the Jets.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure even makes the roster in Miami. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's a shoeing by any.

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Speaker 3: Means at tight end. He's got a chance.

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Speaker 2: They got Durham, Smythe and a couple other guys still

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Speaker 2: down there. They don't have Gasiki, so they do they

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Speaker 2: have a true pass catcher probably not Like really, I.

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Speaker 3: Like Craft better than Smythe, do you, Yeah? I do?

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Speaker 3: If he was I think I like him a better

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Speaker 3: five years younger.

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Speaker 2: Smith does more things as a tight end. I would

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Speaker 2: say Croft is probably a better pass catcher.

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Speaker 3: Than I don't know. If Smith does more things are

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Speaker 3: just more than Sick he did.

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Speaker 2: We will find out.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Bills also saw another former player get released. Cleveland

512
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: Browns have reportedly released former Bills draft choice Marquis Stevenson.

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Speaker 2: He was signed to the Browns practice squad last December

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Speaker 2: after he was released here and then. He did not

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Speaker 2: appear in a game for the Browns last year, but

516
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Speaker 2: did sign as a future free agent in January, but

517
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Speaker 2: they have reportedly released him. Played five games with the

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Speaker 2: Bills as a rookie, with most of those snaps, as

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Speaker 2: we know, coming on special teams. Topic of the day, though,

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Speaker 2: does deal with the much anticipated Bills twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: regular season schedule. We know the who and we know where,

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Speaker 2: we just don't know when. So with that in mind,

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Speaker 2: we are asking you today which Bill's road trip is

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Speaker 2: most attractive to you as a fan besides the London game.

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Speaker 2: We know the London game is enormously popular already in

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Speaker 2: terms of, you know, a feature on Buffalo's away schedule,

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Speaker 2: but we know a lot of fans that attend a

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Speaker 2: lot of the home game sometimes pick one road game

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Speaker 2: a season for their quote unquote road trip game. So

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Speaker 2: which game is that for you on the Bills away schedule?

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Speaker 2: You can let us know it. Three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: the local number to get on board, one eight eight

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty the toll free number,

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Speaker 2: or you can hit us up on the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 2: As always at one Bill's Live, the London game would

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Speaker 2: take the cake if it was in the pool here.

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Speaker 2: And we understand why. It's kind of a unique trip,

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Speaker 2: long trip, but a unique one.

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Speaker 3: It one that'd be a once in a kind of

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Speaker 3: a once in a lifetime trip to you say once

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Speaker 3: in a lifetime. But so it's like.

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Speaker 2: This team, this fan base really got stabbed in the

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty because it was, oh that was

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Speaker 2: a world class San Francisco, La Vegas, and Denver all

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Speaker 2: four and I think National Nashville, and of course then

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Speaker 2: it's always Miami.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the it was the road trip season

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Speaker 3: of a.

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Speaker 2: Lifetime and it was scrapped and it was there was

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Speaker 2: nobody like COVID.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody showed up, nobody.

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Speaker 2: In the seats.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: This year, you obviously have the division road games, and

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Speaker 2: maybe the Jets game has a little more appeal now

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Speaker 2: at Met Life with Aaron Rodgers as part of the equation.

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Speaker 2: Then you have the Commanders in DC. Obviously the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City game again in Kansas City, Chargers in LA. So

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Speaker 2: maybe for those who didn't go to the season kickoff

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Speaker 2: game last year in Sofi Stadium, this is your opportunity now.

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Speaker 2: And then Eagles Philly that could be a rough venue

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Speaker 2: as we know sometimes Yeah it's a little sure and no,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying from a fan perspective, Yeah, they're pretty rowdy.

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Speaker 3: Down well, it's a good team too, So it's both ways.

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Speaker 2: And then Cincinnati, which I did see a fair amount

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Speaker 2: of Bill's fans make that road trip. Unfortunately the game

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Speaker 2: got scrapped for horrific reasons. The Monday night game then

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Speaker 2: did prematurely as.

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Speaker 3: We all know.

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Speaker 2: But back there again this year. So you let us

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Speaker 2: know which Bill's road trip is most attractive to you

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Speaker 2: as a fan besides the upcoming London game, which will

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Speaker 2: be announced officially by the league tomorrow in terms of

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Speaker 2: the when and the who. So let us know. Open

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Speaker 2: lines for you at eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty to get

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Speaker 2: on board or hit us up on the tweet seets

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Speaker 2: Steve and I take a break here, but back with

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Speaker 2: your phone calls next on a Tuesday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you on a Tuesday and we are

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Speaker 2: talking about the schedule and the road game, specifically, which

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Speaker 2: Bill's road trip is most attractive to you as a

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Speaker 2: fan besides the London game. Eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 2: the number to get on board and uh, I think

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Speaker 2: there are enough interesting choices here to spark a little

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Speaker 2: debate on the fans part, So let us have it.

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Speaker 2: Open line for you at eight h three zero five

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Speaker 2: fifty eight five fifty two five fifty toll free number

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Speaker 2: to call if you're outside the seven one six calling

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Speaker 2: Ariel leading us off today is Kevin and Hamburg. What

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Speaker 2: do you got for is Kevin? You're on one Bills Live?

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Speaker 1: How you doing they finicking my call?

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Speaker 3: You're sure?

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Speaker 1: I think probably the most I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: can get to it, but I think the most exciting

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Speaker 1: would probably be beside London would be the Jets one.

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Speaker 1: The way he got the new guy Rogers and they're

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Speaker 1: building him up like he's going to be their next

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Speaker 1: stay here and all that. So I'd have to pick

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Speaker 1: that one. Probably you wouldn't have to go on a plane.

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Speaker 1: You could probably riding a bus to it in the Jersey.

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Speaker 1: But I do want to say one thing, if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind saying, is that I think that the opening game,

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Speaker 1: where's the Bills or not that Thursday kickoff, because the

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Speaker 1: Rogers will be the kickoff, whether it's Buffalo there or not.

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Speaker 1: That's how I think.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so you're thinking kickoff could be Bills, Jets, not

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Speaker 2: even the chance.

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Speaker 1: Even but not the Bills. I think they We'll get

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Speaker 1: the opening kickoff anyway, whether it's the Bills there or not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying the Jets will be in the

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Speaker 2: opening kickoff game. Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: But if it's not, I mean because the Aarons being there,

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Speaker 1: being the hot shot special, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I agree. I think I think the

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Speaker 3: Jets will have a primetime game opening weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's wondering if they'll be the kickoff game with

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs because the AFC East plays the AFC West.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe let me see if the Rodgers in Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: You realize that Mahomes and Rogers have never played yet.

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Speaker 2: That is true, they've never faced.

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Speaker 3: This will be their first time. So that's a good guess.

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Speaker 3: That's a you know, that's as enticing as Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: They have the Chiefs at home though at med Life.

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Speaker 3: That's right, They're not gonna put I don't.

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Speaker 2: You gotta believe the Chiefs are gonna be the kickoff

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Speaker 2: game on Thursday night right, hosting at home.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't have to be. There's nothing that says they

631
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Speaker 3: could change it up, and they have in the past.

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Speaker 3: They've done different things. But given the the what is

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Speaker 3: fast becoming a tradition, the Super Bowl champion plays at

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Speaker 3: home to open the next season, because you want that.

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Speaker 2: Pomp and circumstance in the stadium. Here's the champions being

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Speaker 2: recognized by their fan bab blah blah.

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Speaker 3: It's just like the buildings. It's just like the Bills

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00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: went to LA last year and thumped the Rams. I

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00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: mean that that's what's you know. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: will happen, but that's the idea.

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Speaker 2: So it can't be the Jets at Kansas City, because

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Speaker 2: the Jets get Kansas City at met Life this year.

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Speaker 2: It's a road game for the Bills. It's a home

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Speaker 2: game for the Jets right in terms of the AFC

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Speaker 2: Western But they can but they could do that.

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Speaker 3: They could put the Chiefs in the game on Thursday

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Speaker 3: and send them on the road easily enough.

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Speaker 2: They could. But I think they usually put the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl champ at home.

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Speaker 3: They usually give that well, I mean, there's a gift.

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Speaker 3: There's the gift to the home fans, you know.

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Speaker 2: For here's your champs, raise the flag.

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Speaker 3: Flag, let's start the next season off kind of thing.

654
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: I get it. You don't get that if you're in

655
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: New York, although.

656
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: You'd get some kind of buzz.

657
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: Though I think more than likely we were thinking somebody

658
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: said this to nine to eleven is a Monday this year.

659
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: I think the I think the Jets Giant game will

660
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 3: be on that game.

661
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good call, right, I think that's a

662
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: that's probably that's technically a home game for the Giants

663
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 2: and away game for the Jets, even though they play

664
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: in the same building. It will be Giant season ticket

665
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 2: holders that would have the seats for that game.

666
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: That's a I would I would write that. I'd write

667
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 3: that one on the white board.

668
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was kind of hoping for a Bill's Jets Sunday.

669
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 3: Night game, yeah on nine ten.

670
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seemed to make sense to me. A Bill's making.

671
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: Sure that it might be a Sunday night game. I

672
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 3: can't remember exactly if it's.

673
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: Oh, the September eleventh, m either way, Yeah, it's the

674
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: eleventh is a Monday. Yeah, so you might be right.

675
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: Jets Giants could be that game. It could very easily

676
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: be Bills at Jets.

677
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean it'd be the New York team.

678
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only real New York team against the team

679
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: that's called the New York team that play.

680
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in that. Yeah. We'll find this, we'll find

681
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: it out. We'll find out how early are they going

682
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: to play overseas. Is it going to be like.

683
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: Two Well they I think they start right around week

684
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: four or five and they run through like week eight

685
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: or nine.

686
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: Well, I think they try. I know that Dona Kelsey

687
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: says can be in November, and that's pushing it to me.

688
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's late.

689
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: It's late.

690
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: But they did stagger them once they added Germany, they

691
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: kind of spread them out even more. So maybe that's why.

692
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: And that's where the Chiefs are playing. They are playing

693
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: in Germany.

694
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: We know that.

695
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: So a couple of those games were a little later.

696
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones though. Let us know

697
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 2: what road trip is the most active on the bill

698
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: schedule besides the London game. We go to Leo on

699
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: Grand Island. We got first Leo.

700
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 5: Hey, guys, how you doing today?

701
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: Good?

702
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 5: I thought, as Cincinnati, And the reason for that thought

703
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 5: is is that we never got to finish that game

704
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 5: and the better team never had a chance to show up,

705
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 5: I think. And I'm really excited about that game.

706
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. That's a good one that I

707
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: think that's got a chance to be a primetime game again.

708
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: As we remember this past year, it was a Monday

709
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: night game.

710
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 3: And two good teams.

711
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: It is two good teams. I think it would be

712
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: very fitting to put it in primetime again because you

713
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 2: got two good teams and you know, due to unfortunate circumstances,

714
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: you couldn't finish the one last year. I mean, that

715
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: game doesn't even exist. It like the play by play stuff.

716
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: It's all like you know how you go to the

717
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: NFL stats site and it's there. It's all gone. It's

718
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: like the game never even happened. It's it's a little eerie.

719
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: Back to the phones and to Judy in Buffalo. What

720
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: do you go for his?

721
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: Judy?

722
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'm not too concerned about the schedule. I

723
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 6: just happened on some replays of the LA game and

724
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 6: I was very impressed with Dave Davis. He seemed to

725
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 6: be coming back in that Kansas City game. He looked

726
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 6: to be very impressive, and then all of a sudden,

727
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 6: I know he had some sort of an injury. I

728
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 6: wish you would tell me about what that was. And

729
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 6: I think this guy is vital to our game plans

730
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 6: this year. What is his contract status. I think he's

731
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 6: going to come up big. I can only hope so,

732
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 6: because we need him Okay.

733
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: Very good, Judy, We can get you answers on that.

734
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 2: First and foremost, his injury was a high ankle spring.

735
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: For the most part, he played through it. As a

736
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: matter of fact, I remember watching him in Week three

737
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: down in Miami when the team was down five starters

738
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: on defense and didn't have Mitch Morse on offense, and

739
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: Gabe had a bad high ankle spring and proceeded to

740
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: play like ninety two snaps with a bad foot. Now,

741
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: in that game, he was unable to hold on to

742
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: a football that got raked out of his hands in

743
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: the end zone that would have put the Bills ahead late,

744
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: but he was playing hurt, so you kind of give

745
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: him a little bit of a break on that. You're right.

746
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: In the LA Rams game, he had a big role,

747
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: had a touchdown in that game, and another big play

748
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: down the field to set up another touchdown.

749
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: Of course, and then then he had he had a

750
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: game against Pittsburgh long sixty eight yarder. So I agree

751
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: with Browning, Gabe has a lot more football left in him.

752
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: I think he's he's a really good player. I think

753
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 3: he really battled through some things last year that made

754
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: it hard for him to be as productive as he

755
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: would have been, knowing what it's like for as a

756
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: player when I was a player, Even if you can

757
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: go out and gut it out, you just don't feel

758
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: like you're It affects, you just don't feel like you're

759
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: playing well. Gabe was there do it. Gabe was in

760
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: the midst of that winning touchdown for for week, for

761
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: a lot of weeks. So yeah, I I agree with you, Judy.

762
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: I think Gabe Davis and it's easy to you know,

763
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 3: when the season ends the way it did for the Bills,

764
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: you start to nitpick everybody and you start to, you know,

765
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: ready to kick guys to the curb who really don't

766
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: deserve it. And there's a lot of guys on the

767
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: Bills roster that fit into that with the with the

768
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 3: bitter way that the season ended last year. So yeah,

769
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm with you. Let's see, let's see how Gabe Davis

770
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: does this year before we because this is the last

771
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: year of his deal you asked about last year. If

772
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: if he sees the end of this contract, he'll be

773
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 3: a free agent, right.

774
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: I think the thing that people want to see from him,

775
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: and something that he does have to prove is that

776
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: he can be a more consistent of the football. He

777
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: had the lowest catch rate in the receiving corps on

778
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 2: this team by a wide margin, fifty two percent catch rate.

779
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: He had over ninety targets. I think he had ninety

780
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: four ninety six targets, fifty catch fifty two receptions. That

781
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: is not good enough, especially if he's going to play

782
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: the role that you judy and we would like to

783
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: see him play in the scope of this offense. You

784
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: can't be a fifty two catch rate guy if you're

785
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: the number two or three option in this offense. It's

786
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: just not going to be fruitful. And it's going to

787
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: be the reason the team is off the field more

788
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: than staying on and finishing drives. And that's got to

789
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: get better.

790
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: It looks even worse when you think about he was

791
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: the he had the worst catch rate on the team,

792
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 3: on the team that had the second worst catch rate

793
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: in the league.

794
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: They had the second most drug So he seems like

795
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: he's he was a big part of a big part

796
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: of the big problem that the Bills as a team had.

797
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: So but yet so he had the lowest catch rate

798
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: on the roster. Yeah, but even yeah, but that's what

799
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 2: hat's got to get better. That's what It's a double

800
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: edged sword.

801
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes you want a guy to be tough and durable,

802
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: But when the guy guts it out and plays when

803
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: he's not feeling his best, he doesn't play as well. Yeah,

804
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: and that's I think that's Gabe is right and then right,

805
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 3: that's the wheelhouse of Gabe season last year.

806
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we come back, more

807
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. David in Wheatfield, Vance in Dallas

808
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,960
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809
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,360
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810
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811
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814
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815
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816
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817
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: Tee it up. Man, you could be out there in

818
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. Weather's turning. It's that time, man,

819
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: Very nice it's that time. We want to get back

820
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: to the phones where we are asking you today, which

821
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: Bill's road trip is the most attractive to you as

822
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: a fan Besides the London game. We thought the London

823
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: game would win it in a walk if we included it,

824
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: so we're excluding the London game. Any other road trip

825
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: seem attractive to you, one that you might pick if

826
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: you were going to do one roadie this year.

827
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: You let us know.

828
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: At eight h three h five fifty. We lead off

829
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: with David in Weedfield. What do you got for us? David?

830
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: Hey guys, I love the showy list you guys every day.

831
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: Oh thanks.

832
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 4: I will just tell you this, as a loyal Bills fan,

833
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: I will not attend any of the road games. I

834
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 4: had seasons take us for twenty five years. I never

835
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 4: missed the home game. The only two road games I

836
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: ever went to was the Music City Miracle and last

837
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 4: year's game in Jacksonville.

838
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh boy.

839
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 4: In support of my team and not to be a James,

840
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: I will never go to another road game.

841
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: You think it's you, David, don't be so hard on yourself.

842
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 4: You think it's you, I think it's me, And if

843
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 4: I could, I would just like to say one other thing, Brownie,

844
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 4: I know you can attest to this. You know the

845
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: saying never meet your heroes. Well, Steve Pasker hasn't always

846
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: has been, isn't always has been my favorite bill player

847
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: and I had I had season tickets in the in

848
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 4: the Van Miller boxes for twenty years, and on many

849
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 4: many occasions during halftime I would go outside to stretch

850
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: my legs to take a walk, and I'm Steve was

851
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: out there many many times. Anytime I approached him to

852
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: talk to him about the game or whatever. He always

853
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 4: took the time to talk to me. Ever made it

854
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 4: seem like I was bugging him. He talks to me

855
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 4: for as long as the conversation would go until he

856
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: had to go back to work. And I just want

857
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: to say that I think he belongs in the Hall

858
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: of Fame, not just for what he did on the field,

859
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: up for the type of person he is off the field.

860
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: What a guy. Thanks Dave Man.

861
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: Am I glad it went that way because I thought

862
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: he was gonna be like I was gonna be like

863
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: a Cincinnati or home run throwback. You didn't want ever

864
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 3: meet your heroes, and Steve Tasker proves it what a

865
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: donkey that guy is. I can feel it coming.

866
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: I was almost like I was almost giving you, I

867
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 2: was almost giving you the cutoffs sign.

868
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: Yeah it's not gonna go. Well, thanks David.

869
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm glad. We'll make sure they put that on his

870
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: bust when he finally gets in over there. A great

871
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: special teamer and a great guy.

872
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah right, swof. I literally started sweating.

873
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: You thought you were gonna be a hero. That was

874
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: a jinx too, just like.

875
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: I know, a big time this guy like it blew

876
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: him off. That's what I did. I know I did.

877
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: I don't know big time to anybody ever.

878
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

879
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll move from David Wheatfield to Vance in Dallas.

880
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: I have a suspicion about where Vance is going with

881
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: this one on his road game. Yeah, you're on Vans.

882
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: What do you got?

883
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 3: Go ahead? Vance?

884
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 7: Mine is to come back home to Buffalo, Okadame beat

885
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 7: the Dallas Cowboys at home. I miss home. I was

886
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 7: hoping that they would be here this year because I

887
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 7: live about five minutes from the stadium, so it would

888
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 7: be nice to avoid the travel. But time to come home.

889
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 7: I'd like to see him beat the Cowboys. I have

890
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 7: one quick point, because this is now the second time

891
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 7: I followed up David from Wheatfield and here here Steve

892
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 7: does belong in the Hall of Fame for everything he's

893
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 7: done for the city of Buffalo and in the jersey

894
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 7: should have been a first ballot in my in my book.

895
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 7: And I just wanted to know. I know Jim Kelly

896
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 7: does donation for autograph. I loaded up on some jerseys

897
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 7: this year, including Damar, Josh and Dawston. Do you guys

898
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 7: know do they participate in anything like that where I

899
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 7: can make a donation to one of their charities, especially Damar.

900
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 7: I'd love to get his signature.

901
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, We'll have to look into that

902
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 2: for you. I don't have a definitive answer on that. Yeah,

903
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: I know Jim's done that in the past. I can't

904
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: speak as to whether he's still doing it now. Yeah,

905
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: that's a hard one because usually I mean, of course,

906
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 2: the guy if you're gonna make a donation to like

907
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: a Kelly for Kids Foundation or Damar's foundation, they would

908
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: certainly sign at the time, they would sign a jersey.

909
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: For you if you just tell them you're gonna do

910
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: it and you do it. But as for an event.

911
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: Most of these guys, myself included. There's a there's a

912
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: business that is affiliated with the Bills that does all

913
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: the paraphernalia, autograph stuff and that you sign a bunch

914
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: of and that you do it through them, and it's

915
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: Total Sports Entertainment.

916
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: If you handthing right, you order something right, you go

917
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: to the Total Sports Entertainment.

918
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: I think that's the name of the company. Those guys

919
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: are great and you just you contact them, make a

920
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: donation or or buy the jersey whatever that's already been signed.

921
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 2: So all right, that's it for this segment, because coming

922
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 2: up in our number two, we're gonna be joined by

923
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: co host of the ESPN NFL Matchup Show one, Matt

924
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: Bowen gonna join us for his thoughts on the Bills

925
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: draft class. There's one guy that he thinks is one

926
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: of the best fits for his team in the entire league.

927
00:48:39,400 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: We'll tell you who next.

928
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live presented by Calida Help.

929
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number two on a Tuesday,

930
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: and happy to be joined now by the guy you

931
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 2: see co hosting ESPN's NFL Matchup Show during the regular season.

932
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: It's former NFL safety ESPN NFL analyst Matt Bowen joining

933
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 2: us on the show fresh off his latest write up

934
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: on ESPN dot com where he picked his sixteen favorite

935
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: team fits from the draft, and I am happy to

936
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: report that there is a Bills player on this list. Matt, First,

937
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: how you doing. Nice to see that Bill's helmet in

938
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: the background as well. Love it.

939
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 8: I'm doing great, guys. Great to see you guys again.

940
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on.

941
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so one of your favorite fits was Dalton Kincaid.

942
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: You are not the only one that likes this fit,

943
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, from among the national analysts that are dicing

944
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: up the draft choices. But I guess give us your

945
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: best reasoning why you think Kinkaid is going to be

946
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 2: such a nice fit for Buffalo.

947
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 8: Well, I think there's a couple of reasons.

948
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 9: Let's start with what they can do is schematically in

949
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 9: terms of personnel, and look, I'm speculating on this, but

950
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 9: you have to expect adding another tight end, maybe you

951
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 9: see more two tight end sets now.

952
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 8: That gives you counters, That gives you.

953
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 9: Tactical advantages in the National Football League based on run

954
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 9: and pass in formation alignment.

955
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 8: What you want to.

956
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 9: Do both Kinkay he can be your flex player, you

957
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 9: can move to the slot. He can be someone that

958
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 9: can stress the field vertically. We know how much split

959
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 9: safety zone coverage cover two quarters that Buffalo is going

960
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 9: to see because of Josh Allen, because of the arm tunt,

961
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 9: because of defenses what they want to do take away

962
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 9: explosive play. So let's get someone in Kinkaid that can

963
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 9: be your vertical stretch target inside the numbers. Some of

964
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 9: the can match up against a Mike linebacker and cover two,

965
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 9: some of the can match up against the safety. But

966
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 9: I also think what he brings in addition to what

967
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 9: he can do after the catch. If you go back

968
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 9: to last season, the best tape to watch on him

969
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 9: is the first matchup against USC and what he did

970
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 9: in that Utah offense. Who's a three level target formation

971
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 9: flexibility in the past game. But I also think in

972
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 9: the National Football League, when you talk about a critical position.

973
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 8: In the offensive routtree, it's that boundary X receivers.

974
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 9: So when you go three by one trips to the

975
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 9: field right for your receivers to the field, your backside

976
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 9: X receiver can be concayed. That gives you isolation matchups

977
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 9: versus a corner or if your man covered, see who

978
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 9: walks out there with them, especially if you're in twelve personnel,

979
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 9: because then maybe a linebacker walks out.

980
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 8: Maybe it's a safety.

981
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 9: You get that matchup advantage to throw isolation routes to

982
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 9: a tight end who has wide receiver skills.

983
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: How many teams out there, like, off the top of

984
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: your head, have two tight ends, like say everything spins positive.

985
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 3: You know Dawson, Knox, Dalton, Kin, cad or two guys

986
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 3: at the top of the game. How many teams are

987
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 3: able to do that? Of course we know Gronkowski and

988
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: Hernandez from back in the day with the Patriots.

989
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: Ertz and Goddard for a while with you there you go.

990
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So how many teams right now in the league

991
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: can you name off the top of your head that

992
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 3: are able to do something like this?

993
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 9: There's not many, There's nothing, and I think everyone wants

994
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 9: to be that. But you have to find the specific

995
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 9: skill set right because you have to have tight ends

996
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 9: that can block in the run game and also have

997
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 9: that pass catching flexibility. And look, you don't need too

998
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 9: traditional on theline tight ends.

999
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 5: You don't.

1000
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 8: You can have one.

1001
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 9: You can have Knox as your tight end who's attached

1002
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 9: to the formation, can block on outside zone, can reach

1003
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 9: block and down block, and do all those things for

1004
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 9: you in the run.

1005
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 8: Game, and also have that route ability in the passing game.

1006
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 9: But with Kinky now on the field, to answer you questions,

1007
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 9: not many teams And look, if I'm a defense coordinator,

1008
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 9: what do I do?

1009
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 8: That's the first thing you have to ask. If I'm

1010
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 8: going to play my base defense, well, I'm gonna go

1011
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 8: to my subpackage.

1012
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 9: Now I got to bring my slot corner on the field.

1013
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 9: How does my slot corner matchup in the run games?

1014
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 9: There's a lot of different counters you have to think

1015
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 9: also from a defensive perspective when you have multiple tight

1016
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 9: ends who are versatile like Buffalo has.

1017
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: And I know you watch enough tape to know this, Matt,

1018
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: but the Bills were doing that with Knox sometimes in

1019
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, where he's the backside guy,

1020
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 2: he's isolated and he's outside the numbers. I know they

1021
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: would do that kind of in Plus thirty and in

1022
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: maybe more than anywhere else. But it's it's not like

1023
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: they haven't done it before with Knox. Now you got Kincaid,

1024
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: who runs better than Knox, and probably a lot of

1025
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: other tight ends in this league. Walking in the door.

1026
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: Does that change the route possibilities because of his ability

1027
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 2: to get down the field and be a three level guy.

1028
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 8: I think it does.

1029
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 9: And to go back to that formation of flexibility, whether

1030
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 9: he's a slot and bound reax, whether you put.

1031
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 8: Him outside of a Z, it doesn't matter. You're just

1032
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 8: trying to create that matchup.

1033
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 9: You're trying to create that matchup within your top route counts, whether.

1034
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 8: You're clearing space firm versus zone coverage, or whether.

1035
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 9: You're trying to get the exact matchup you want versus

1036
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 9: man coverags because look as a form of safety, that's

1037
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 9: a really tough matchup one because the size at the

1038
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 9: point of attack, the catch rate is plus the vertical speed.

1039
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 9: And again you go back to his college take. He

1040
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 9: can make plays outside his frame, so you can put

1041
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 9: the ball on the back shoulder. How many times have

1042
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 9: we seen Josh throw the ball to the middle of

1043
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 9: the field when he puts on the back shoulder versus

1044
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 9: cover two or our quarters and the defensive back just

1045
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 9: can't make the play right because there's a mismatch at

1046
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 9: the point of attack.

1047
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 8: And I think King Kai.

1048
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: Gives you that, okay, and now talk to me from

1049
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 2: a safety perspective as to how it impacts your decision

1050
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: making with the attemption, with the attention you can or

1051
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: cannot give to Stefan Diggs. If you have kinkaid pressing

1052
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: the seam up the middle of the field, talk to

1053
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: me about you know what's in your head as a

1054
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 2: safety when you're faced with that problem.

1055
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 8: Okay, Well, let's think of the covers. Let's start with

1056
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 8: cover two, right and cover two.

1057
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 9: Let's say the ball is in the middle field sort

1058
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 9: of the safety Your landmark is the top of the numbers, right,

1059
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 9: you start at fifteen, your backpedal on eighteen. Now you

1060
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 9: have to have the ability to overlap both right if

1061
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 9: you get two verticals your side of the field. So yeah,

1062
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 9: Stefan Diggs pressing down the boundary and widening you off

1063
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 9: that landmark, Well, you're in trouble, right because now you

1064
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 9: don't have enough time to overlap the seat ball to concay.

1065
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 9: So a lot of things have to happen in your favor.

1066
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 9: You have to get a good reroute from your corner

1067
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 9: to limit Stefan Diggs's release, because if he does it,

1068
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 9: it creates a ton of conflict for you as a

1069
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 9: deep haf safety. And I bring up cover too, because

1070
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 9: that's where the league's going right now. Right you're seeing

1071
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 9: so much too deep covers because if you're playing against

1072
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 9: Josh Allen, I can't.

1073
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 8: Give up exposive place. I can't.

1074
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 9: I can't go tell my offense you got to outscore

1075
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 9: Josh Allen today, So I have to limit those exposive plays.

1076
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 9: So I'm gonna put too deep over the top now,

1077
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 9: different ways to attack it because of your offensive personnel

1078
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 9: in Buffalo.

1079
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 3: Give us an insight on and I know you touched

1080
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: on this, and this is all kind of about this

1081
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: two tight end set. Give us the like the this

1082
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: two extremes of when you've got the defense has to

1083
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: identify how they're going to treat both tight ends, like, okay,

1084
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: if kin Kid's going to be treated like a wide

1085
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: out and Knox is going to be treated like a

1086
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: real tight end, or and what happens if they start

1087
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: putting two running backs on the field with those two

1088
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 3: tight ends? But then you you know what I mean,

1089
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: Give us.

1090
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: Right, James Cook, Yeah, give us this.

1091
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: Give us the yeah, give us the spectrum here of

1092
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: what a defense has the gymnastics and the planning they

1093
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: have to do when they go in when you're gonna

1094
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: either spread them out and go five wide with two

1095
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 3: tight ends on the field or two and two running backs,

1096
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 3: and you can also go five wide with one tight

1097
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 3: end for for wide out. You know what I mean,

1098
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: give us, give us that spectrum of what a defense.

1099
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 3: You know, the gymnastics they have to go through in preparation.

1100
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 9: Well, I think the first thing is is the matchup right?

1101
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 9: So can your safety play in space? It's one thing

1102
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 9: to cover a tight end. Look, if you can cover

1103
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 9: a tight end, attach the formation, you got defenders around you,

1104
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 9: you can impact the release, you can walk up and

1105
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 9: press and there there's I'm not saying it's easier, but

1106
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 9: there's more room there to get hands on the tight

1107
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 9: end coming off the line of screwage when you're out

1108
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 9: in space.

1109
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 8: Can your safety play in space?

1110
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 9: The first thing I would ask, and we always talk

1111
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 9: about it, especially during the draft, boss the safety can

1112
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 9: cover down the slot. There's a big difference to playing

1113
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 9: man coverage in the slot and covering down as a

1114
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 9: curl or hook defender and zone coverage where you're match

1115
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 9: and carry. So if your safety can't match in k

1116
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 9: in the slot. Well, if I'm a defensive coordinator, guys,

1117
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 9: I have to go to my sub package, right, I

1118
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 9: got to get my slot corner on the Can my

1119
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 9: slock corner match the size?

1120
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 8: Can you match the frame? Can my slock corner now tackle?

1121
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 9: When they have tall personnel on the field it looks

1122
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 9: like a levy personnel right free? Why and now can

1123
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 9: my slock corner tackle on the run game? Because if

1124
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 9: I'm Buffalo, when you bring seven the fi and your

1125
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 9: slot corner is a true cover guy, I'm running the

1126
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 9: football and we know what they did in the offseason,

1127
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 9: we know and what they added in the offensive backfield.

1128
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 9: You know, my buddy Greg Cosel said this before, and

1129
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 9: I'm sure he's probably sat it under the show.

1130
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 8: Is that right now? If I'm opposing teams in the

1131
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 8: AFC East or the AFC in general, I'm a little

1132
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 8: nervous because I want to know what Buffalo is gonna

1133
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 8: be because I don't really know right now. Because Banks

1134
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 8: and there moved.

1135
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 9: I think there could be a shift in what they

1136
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 9: want to be schematically okay, and I think there can

1137
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 9: be a shift.

1138
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 8: And now they're going to attack teams and be.

1139
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 9: Very multiple on offense and a shift where it's not

1140
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 9: gonna be Josh Allen every play.

1141
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 8: That they're gonna have more guys.

1142
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 9: That can touch the football, whether in the run game

1143
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 9: or the pass game that I now have to prepare for,

1144
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 9: and that's going to create more challenges from a defensive perspective.

1145
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1146
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 9: Right.

1147
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: There were a couple other guys from AFC East clubs

1148
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: whose picks you liked as fits. One of Steve's favored

1149
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 2: guys after I told him, Hey, you may want to

1150
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: put on the tape and watch this fella, Devon Ah

1151
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: Chain in Miami. Now, he only goes one eighty eight, Matt,

1152
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: So how much do you think that that limits him

1153
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: at least from a traditional backstandpoint. Obviously you can do

1154
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: the jet sweeps and all that stuff with him, But

1155
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: you like him as a fit, So that's fine. Tell

1156
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: us why, and then how you see Miami potentially utilizing him.

1157
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 9: Well, I'll tell you what. And I agree on the size.

1158
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 9: He does have an undersized frame for an NFL running back.

1159
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 8: But I'll tell you what.

1160
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 9: Go watch the tape against SEC competition Washington against LSU

1161
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 9: when he gets on a downhill, track.

1162
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 8: He's very decisive as a runner. I mean he really is.

1163
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 9: He plays like a two hundred and ten pound running

1164
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 9: back when he runs downhill. There's no question about that.

1165
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 9: He's decisive. He's physical, He's got lateral juice in terms

1166
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 9: of making defenders miss. He's got perimeterive speed. You know,

1167
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 9: he's got home run speed. Based off the forty times's

1168
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 9: watch him right here and then what he can do

1169
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 9: in the past game. I think he can be so

1170
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 9: one that can win matchups out of the backfield and

1171
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 9: that Miami offense, Chris, you already mentioned it.

1172
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 8: The Jets sweeps the screens.

1173
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 9: I think there will be some manufacturer touches for him

1174
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 9: where he can utilize them as a player to get

1175
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 9: into space a matchup.

1176
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 8: With Greg Cosel.

1177
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 9: We always called the motion movement players, and that means

1178
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 9: someone that can align in.

1179
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 8: The backfield and align in the slot, can align out.

1180
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 9: Why do you find different ways the scheme for them

1181
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 9: because they have playmaking traits or playmaking element to their game.

1182
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 9: And I think he's one of those players. And we

1183
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 9: know with Miami what they have in the field right

1184
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 9: now is a lot of speed. Right again, we talked

1185
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 9: about defensive counters and how you game plan.

1186
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 8: Well, that's going to impact how you game plan.

1187
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 9: Here as well because of what they can do with

1188
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 9: him within their offensive structure.

1189
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: Also another AFC's team who seemed to get a perfect fit.

1190
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 3: We're the New England Patriots. They have always long leaned

1191
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 3: on their corners as much as any team in the league.

1192
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 3: You go back to Darrell Reeves, you go back to

1193
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: Stefan Gilmour. When they've got a really locked down corner,

1194
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 3: they seem to be their happiest defensively. Christian Gonzales cornerback,

1195
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 3: they drafted him. Give us an idea of what they're

1196
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: thinking is.

1197
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 9: Well, I think the first thing is there, Steve is

1198
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 9: if you look at their coverage percentages and what they play,

1199
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 9: they're over sixty percent single high coverage, and what that

1200
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 9: is is cover one man free in cover three zone coverage.

1201
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 9: Christian Gonzalez is an ideal fit for that. He's got

1202
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 9: backfield vision to play in a deep third in cover three,

1203
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 9: and he's got really high level covered traits, you know,

1204
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 9: really fluid lower body flexibility. He can open and run,

1205
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 9: he's got recovery speed, he's got transition speed to break

1206
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 9: in the football. He doesn't have a ton of on

1207
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 9: the ball production from his college tape and his college numbers,

1208
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 9: but you can see the ability and the traits are

1209
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 9: there for that to transition in an NFL scheme which

1210
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 9: he's going to, which will utilize or maximize his traits,

1211
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 9: that he'll be in position to make plays in the

1212
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 9: football and look, New England will play them too deep,

1213
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 9: just like we're talking about before how the NFL is going,

1214
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 9: but he has the traits there to where he can

1215
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 9: jam and reroute, open his hips and sink. I think

1216
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 9: it was an excellent pick. I thought, guys, I thought

1217
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 9: he'd go much higher. I thought he was a top twelve,

1218
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 9: top ten player based on his tape, based on his

1219
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 9: testing numbers, based on the coverage traps. I thought it

1220
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 9: was an excellent pick for New England. And it fits

1221
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 9: exactly what they want to do because if they do

1222
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 9: have a corner who can win one on one, win

1223
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 9: those isolation matchups. You know what Bill Belichick, how we

1224
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 9: rotate his safeties and that will allow them to double

1225
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 9: and bracket defenders elsewhere on the field.

1226
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I mean, I know you watch a ton

1227
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 2: more tape than I do. Matt, I can't remember watching

1228
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: a corner make playing corner look effortless, Like it doesn't

1229
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: even look like he's straining or trying to flip his

1230
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: hips run with a guy re route not you know,

1231
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: he would bite on a double move and recover in

1232
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: three steps like I've I can't remember seeing that. Can

1233
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: you point to anybody who makes playing corner and granted

1234
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: it's at the college level, but I can't remember a

1235
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: guy making it look that effortless.

1236
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 9: Now, there's not many corners like that that are so

1237
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 9: fluid and smooth in their movements, right, I mean it

1238
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 9: almost looks at times like he's a wide receiver running

1239
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 9: rounds in terms of understanding where he's going and the

1240
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 9: ability just to change direct directions and not. You know

1241
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 9: what he doesn't show is any lower body.

1242
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: Tightness, right yeah, yeah.

1243
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 9: And you usually with corners who are six foot plus,

1244
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 9: you're gonna get some lower body tightenness. It's understandable their

1245
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 9: tall corners, But with him, he plays like a smaller

1246
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 9: player in terms of his movement traits. And like I said,

1247
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 9: I was really surprised he was still on the board.

1248
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 9: You know, later in the first round when New England

1249
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 9: picked him.

1250
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 3: And as you talk about, you know how this draft

1251
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 3: ends up, but always, you know, the marquee of the

1252
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 3: draft is and always will be the quarterbacks who were

1253
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 3: taken in At these guys, we had three out of

1254
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: the first four picks a go or four to the

1255
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: first five. All these guys. Give us your synopsis on

1256
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 3: how these quarterbacks are, the kind of situations they fell into.

1257
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 3: Who do you think might be have surprising success? If,

1258
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 3: certainly Bryce Young is expected to be at least as

1259
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 3: good as he can stay healthy, what about the others.

1260
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with you on Bryce Young. With Frank

1261
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 9: Wright's offense. If you look at Frank Wright's system, a

1262
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 9: lot of crossers, a lot of overs.

1263
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 8: They will use empty They'll scheme throws for the quarterbacks.

1264
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 9: They'll have answers for both man and zone covers and

1265
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 9: create open voids for the.

1266
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 8: Quarterback to throw. I agree on Bryce Young going number one.

1267
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 8: I know he has, you.

1268
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 9: Know, an undersized frame and narrow frame with the position,

1269
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 9: but his tape was the best.

1270
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 8: There was no question about it.

1271
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 9: If he watched the Bama tape and watch how he

1272
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 9: play the position, watch how he process both pre and posting.

1273
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 8: That I thought he was the best quarterback in this class.

1274
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 8: I think CJ.

1275
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 9: Strout when you watch his college tape, you know, is

1276
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 9: such a natural thrower accuracy, especially at the third level.

1277
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 8: And I think that's very important in today's NFL.

1278
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 9: It's one thing to be accurate on crossers and under,

1279
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 9: but when you can attack, you know, second and third

1280
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 9: level voyage down the field like he did at Ohio

1281
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 9: State and do.

1282
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 8: It from the pocket. And plus with CJ. Stroud and

1283
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 8: throughout the process his draft process, you have to look

1284
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 8: at what he did in the Georgia game.

1285
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 9: Right, you have to grade that at a higher level.

1286
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 9: Given the stage he played on and given the competition.

1287
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 9: I thought it was one of the best games he

1288
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 9: played because he was forced to work outside of structure, right,

1289
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 9: did not have perfect clean pockets like he did in

1290
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 9: some Big ten games, where he had to go to

1291
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 9: his second reaction skills, make throws in the run, use

1292
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 9: his legs to get outside of the pocket. I thought

1293
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 9: it was an excellent take for him. I'm really excited

1294
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 9: for Anthony Richardson.

1295
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 8: I really am.

1296
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 9: During the draft process at ESPN, we had to come

1297
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 9: up with our favorite pro con and for me, Anthony

1298
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 9: Richardson was Josh Allen.

1299
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 8: And the reason I say.

1300
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 9: That is because of the physical tools, the physical traits.

1301
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 9: You know, he has the size of the quarterback position.

1302
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 9: You know, high end arm, tailent, can move it inside

1303
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 9: and outside of the pocket, and when he gets outside

1304
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 9: of the pocket, like we're watching right now, he's an

1305
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 9: offensive playmaker. I think the situation he went to in

1306
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 9: Indianapolis with Shane Stiken, a new head coach, and how

1307
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 9: they can scheme for him based on what Styken did

1308
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 9: last season in Philadelphia with Jalen Hurts.

1309
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Speaker 8: You're gonna put him in positive positions.

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Speaker 9: We have to understand this is a young quarterback that's

1311
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 9: on his head, I think thirteen career college starts. So

1312
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 9: you can't deal in saying, well, this is what he's

1313
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 9: going to be. You don't know that yet. Because he

1314
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 9: has tremendous upside at the position because of those tools,

1315
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 9: because of what he can be in terms of pro development,

1316
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 9: I'm un excited for him. I think he went to

1317
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 9: a great landing spot, and we know that the landing

1318
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 9: spot means everything for.

1319
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 8: Every player, but especially quarterbacks. You go into a positive

1320
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 8: environment with great coach in talent, Ronnie in a system

1321
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 8: that works for you. I think this was a great

1322
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 8: spot for Anthony Richards last week.

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Speaker 2: I got for you Matt with Rogers now in New York. Obviously,

1324
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 2: Hacketts there is the OC. He's got a couple of

1325
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 2: his running mates from Green Bay Thereonlizard and Cobb. So

1326
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: should we just expect Green Bay offense all the way

1327
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: and nothing changes or might there be a few tweaks

1328
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: because it just looks like just press play and off

1329
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: you go run the Green Bay offense?

1330
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Speaker 8: Right?

1331
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Speaker 9: Well, I think the Green Bay offense will be the

1332
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 9: core of what they do in New York. But every

1333
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 9: coach and every quarterback too will have adjustments to make

1334
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 9: based on what they did, what they saw last year,

1335
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 9: what the tendencies are of NFL defenses now, and how

1336
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 9: they can attack those defenses. But it is a perfect

1337
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 9: fit for Aaron Rodgers. We know that because he produced

1338
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 9: MVP numbers in that offense before. And you look at

1339
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 9: New York and some of their young talent, especially player

1340
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 9: like Garrett Wilson, who had very productive numbers last season.

1341
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 8: You have to be honest with mid to low level

1342
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 8: quarterback play in New York last season.

1343
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 9: Now he gets a player who has won a Super Bowl,

1344
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 9: who has one MVPs, who is one of the most

1345
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 9: natural throwers.

1346
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 8: This league has ever seen. And it can also create

1347
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 8: outside of structure.

1348
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 9: So if you're looking for a player in New York

1349
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 9: that could really have a breakout season, to me, it's

1350
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 9: got to be Garrett Wilson because of that offensive structure

1351
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 9: and because of the upgrade with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback.

1352
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 3: What are you thinking about the Hindon Hooker draft spot

1353
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: when he was healthy? And I'm just like most other people,

1354
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 3: but I thought the guy could really really play. I

1355
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 3: thought he had a chance to be really good. Certainly,

1356
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 3: the Tennessee offense was not an NFL offense, but he

1357
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 3: showed poise, he showed arm strength, he showed athleticism. What

1358
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 3: about Hendon Hooker and if he comes back and he's

1359
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 3: available in week ten, week eleven in this season and beyond,

1360
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: what do you think his landing spot? About his landing

1361
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 3: spot and also his prospects?

1362
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 8: Well, I agree with you, Steve.

1363
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 9: I'm based on his tape at Tennessee and the offense

1364
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 9: you mentioned it was an air raid system, so there

1365
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 9: will be a transition period moving to the NFL.

1366
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 8: But look what the situation he's in.

1367
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 9: Like you brought up, Jared Goff is the young question

1368
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 9: started right now in Detroit. So a young quarterback can

1369
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 9: learn behind a veteran quarterback. It's very important, especially someone

1370
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 9: is coming off an injury and going through an offensive transition.

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01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 9: But I agree he's an over the top thrower. He

1372
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 9: sees the field well. He gives you dual threat ability,

1373
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 9: whether he's schemes situationally as a runner or creating outside

1374
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 9: of the pocket. I think he's you know, in terms

1375
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 9: of post snap, how he processes, what he sees. Those

1376
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 9: are all very those are all positives to his game.

1377
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 9: Here's the question I'll ask you, Steven, what if Jared

1378
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 9: Goff plays at a high level this year and takes.

1379
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 8: Detroit to the playoffs.

1380
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 9: That's the thing you have to look at because I

1381
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 9: thought Golf's tape at the end of last season was

1382
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 9: really good and what they did in Detroit, and that's

1383
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 9: a team I think that's on the verge of competing

1384
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 9: or should be competing right now, not only in the division,

1385
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 9: but you know, into January Football because of their coaching staff,

1386
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 9: because of their roster construction. And that's something we have

1387
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 9: to think about does Hooker get a chance to play

1388
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 9: this year behind Jared Goff and beyond because golf right now,

1389
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 9: I know, we don't talk about him in the upper

1390
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 9: tiers of quarterbacks.

1391
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 8: I understand that.

1392
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 9: But again, based off the tape last year, especially second

1393
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 9: half the season, you played really good football.

1394
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 3: Well, it's the Detroit's been sitting in the same division

1395
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 3: as the Green Bay Packers with Brett Farv and Aaron Rodgers.

1396
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 3: Now Jordan Love, maybe the Packers and maybe the Lions

1397
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 3: are going to do the exact same thing and let

1398
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 3: Hendon Hooker jest state for a couple of years rather

1399
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 3: than just a half a year. I like the spot

1400
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 3: that he's in. Certainly, yeah. And it's the NFL. We

1401
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 3: call the NFC the relegation league, you know, I mean

1402
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 3: because you look at the quarterback rosters on each conference

1403
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 3: in the AFC looks like, you know, elite quarterback play,

1404
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 3: and it gets and it's only gotten better with the

1405
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 3: last two years with Russ Wilson and Aaron Rodgers coming over.

1406
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 3: So it's uh, I like what the Detroit Lions did.

1407
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: They may not see and he returns right away, but

1408
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 3: certainly it's an insurance policy. They got to be happy

1409
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 3: with at least in the short term.

1410
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with you, and that's why you make

1411
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 9: the pick because you see the developmental upside. You go

1412
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 9: back to the college tape, you talk about the offensive

1413
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 9: for transition into the NFL, and now you put them

1414
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 9: in a situation and we know he's coming off the injury,

1415
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 9: but even so where he doesn't have to be forced

1416
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 9: to play right away, where he can learn behind a

1417
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 9: veteran quarterback who started in a Super Bowl.

1418
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 8: He's played a lot of football in this league. And

1419
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 8: that is in Steve you neal, this is one of

1420
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 8: the best teaching tools for young player. It's a learn

1421
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 8: from a veteran and see not only.

1422
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 9: How they play, how they study, how they prepare, what

1423
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 9: they do pre and post practice.

1424
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 8: All that stuff goes into developing a pro player.

1425
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: Matt, thanks for the time. As always, We appreciate you

1426
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: making time for us. We'll catch up with you down

1427
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 2: the line. All right, enjoy your off season whatever's left

1428
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: of it.

1429
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 8: All right, guys, thank you.

1430
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: All right. That's Matt Bowen, ESPN NFL analyst also co

1431
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show With a Good Friend,

1432
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: Great Cosell, former Buffalo Bill and former Buffalo Bill. That's right.

1433
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: Always good to catch up with him. I mean he

1434
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 2: watches just as much tape as Cosell does. I mean

1435
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: they break down a lot of the same stuff. They

1436
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: watch a lot of the league, so it's always good

1437
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 2: to pick their brains. And not only that, being a

1438
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 2: former safety, I wanted to kind of crawl inside his

1439
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 2: head and say, well, you're on the field now against

1440
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: this Bill's offense with Kincaid in it, what's going through

1441
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: your head as a safety? Because there are gonna be

1442
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 2: some uncomfortable decisions that some of these safety are gonna

1443
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 2: have to make playing the Bills this year, and they

1444
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: may know I don't have the physical ability to cover

1445
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: this much field and cover everything. I'm relying on my

1446
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: corner to get a good jam on Digs to just

1447
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: hold him up for half a second so I can

1448
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: make a decision whether I'm going to the post or

1449
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: I'm going to the corner to cover the deep third.

1450
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 3: I've heard DB's talk about this. It was whenever you

1451
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 3: get a quarterback with a big gun like back in

1452
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 3: the day of John Elway and also Michael Vick had

1453
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 3: this kind of arm, and certainly Josh does as well.

1454
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: That the DB's believe they the further you get away

1455
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 3: from the quarterback when he throws it, the longer you

1456
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: have to cover ground. And DB's convinced themselves through Allen

1457
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 3: error and through other quarterbacks that they've played in their

1458
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 3: own experience that they know, you know, kind of how

1459
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 3: much ground they can give to the inside route deep

1460
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 3: and the outside route deep when they're both headed down

1461
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: the field and you kind of split the difference, read

1462
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 3: the quarterback and cheat to where he's looking, and then

1463
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:21,759
Speaker 3: you can cover that ground. With quarterbacks like Josh Allen,

1464
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 3: you're deceptive because he can get the ball there faster

1465
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 3: than you think he can get it there, and you're

1466
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 3: not taking the ball, you can't cover that ground. So

1467
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: if you've got guys that can get down the field,

1468
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 3: particularly you know, a tight end, somebody who you've got,

1469
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 3: you know, less help because there's they're heavier guys on

1470
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: the field, it's a problem. That's it's a problem. And

1471
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 3: that's why Josh is part of the reason why Josh's

1472
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:51,560
Speaker 3: arm is such difference makers, because they get spread a

1473
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: little too thin to cover all the ground they need

1474
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 3: to cover. Because of their threat of the ball getting

1475
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 3: there before they can.

1476
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still reminded of Emmanuel Sanders in the

1477
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 2: one year he was here, his description of the ball

1478
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: that Josh threw into a window that he didn't think

1479
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 2: there were that any quarterback stually be thrown into. And

1480
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it's stuck in his hand

1481
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: in between two closing defenders, and he's looking at his

1482
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 2: hand with the ball and it like, how did that

1483
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: just get there?

1484
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1485
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: Because it had no right getting there, and he's stuck

1486
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: it in the right in that crack between two defenders,

1487
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: right into Emmanuel Sanders' hands, and that went for a

1488
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 2: touchdown against the Chiefs in the divisional playoff two years ago.

1489
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's a special breed of cat. And with

1490
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: those two weapons on the field now, it makes Josh

1491
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: more dangerous because he has alternatives. It's not just hey,

1492
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: we take care of Diggs and they'll have to nickel

1493
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: and dimas.

1494
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 3: It's not yeah, And it's not so much either about

1495
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 3: you know, sending Dalton Kincaid on the nine route down

1496
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: the seam, although that's an option, it's also about being

1497
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 3: able to run the football out of two tight end

1498
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 3: and them putting a guy like aj Klein on the

1499
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: field as opposed to Taron Johnson, and then the guy's

1500
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 3: got to cover him instead of just tackle him or

1501
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 3: take on a walk. And that's that's not a decision.

1502
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 2: Not to mention. If you do run the ball. You

1503
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 2: have downhill guys right now, like Latavious Murray and Damien Harris.

1504
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: They're bigger dudes.

1505
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so even if you have big people, they.

1506
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 3: Still might takes. Murray was on the show.

1507
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: He's put together, man, dude's big. He is put together

1508
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: and he's tall.

1509
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I love I love the way

1510
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 3: the roster looks right now. It's gonna be a lot

1511
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 3: of fun to see it come together. And like we've

1512
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 3: we've gotten some feedback on our social about you know,

1513
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 3: Ken Dorsey. You gotta think he had at least a

1514
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 3: voice in the room about how they were going to

1515
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 3: approach this roster in the offseason. And if that's the case,

1516
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 3: then certainly somebody was listening to him.

1517
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: And it's interesting that the Bills aren't the only team

1518
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 2: trying to diversify their tight end weaponry. You look at

1519
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: the Giants with day Ball. They drafted a kid a

1520
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: year ago in Bellinger as a tight end. They trade

1521
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: for Darren Waller, so they have two. They have two

1522
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 2: also down there, so I'm very intrigued to see how

1523
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 2: Dable diversifies his offense with a quarterback who is pretty

1524
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 2: accurate in Jones and might benefit from higher percentage throws

1525
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 2: in the middle of the field. So it could be

1526
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 2: a trend that the Bills are on the cusp of.

1527
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: Will know more when we get to September break time

1528
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 2: for us, we'll hit the tweets sheet when we return,

1529
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: as we are trying to find out from you which

1530
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: Bill's road trip is the most attractive to you as

1531
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: a fan besides the London game. We look at your picks.

1532
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 2: Next here on One Bill's Live, Stay tone all right

1533
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, stay teske

1534
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: with you on a Tuesday, where we are asking you

1535
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 2: what is the most attractive road trip for the Bills

1536
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 2: this year besides UDEs the London game, a game that

1537
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 2: maybe you've got marked down as your one potential road

1538
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 2: game to attend for the Bills this season. And we

1539
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: go to the tweet sheet, which as always is brought

1540
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems. The official equipment moving

1541
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills. We start with Ronnie, who

1542
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: says it's got to be the Chiefs. I've heard mostly

1543
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: good things about the experience, and the Chiefs fans, for

1544
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: the most part, are classy and respectful. Oh want I

1545
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 2: hear the barbecue is the best in the country. All

1546
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: good reasons to go. I think this is an easy

1547
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 2: one since it's coming from Bills backers of Southwest Missouri.

1548
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: We can't wait to welcome our Bills Mafia brothers and

1549
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: sisters back to Missouri this year. See you all in

1550
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 2: KC when we barbecue the Chiefs. Should I say Missouri?

1551
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: Isn't that how they say it out there? It's Missouri?

1552
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm from Kansas, and you.

1553
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 2: Say Missouri, but they say in parts of that state

1554
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: they say Missouri.

1555
01:17:58,240 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: Right, I've never heard.

1556
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 2: Oh, you've never heard that.

1557
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 8: I don't.

1558
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 3: I don't spend much time over there.

1559
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 2: Oh okay. Not that it's a little bit of a

1560
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: border war apparently.

1561
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 3: No, not at all. I just there is some I

1562
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 3: think to do, but I don't know. I don't. I've

1563
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 3: never heard that. It's always Missouri, and but I'm from Kansas,

1564
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 3: so yeah.

1565
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: That's why I was because I had heard it once

1566
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, do they Is that how

1567
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: they say it?

1568
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 3: That might be how some people from Arkansas say it.

1569
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know which is a border state on

1570
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 2: the bottom.

1571
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Kansas borders both those states that they kind

1572
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 3: of come together right at the middle of the or

1573
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 3: southeastern corner of.

1574
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: Our SHOs old Texarkana thing.

1575
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,879
Speaker 3: Uh well yeah, Texas, Canada, Kansas.

1576
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1577
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never heard anybody consistently say Missouri.

1578
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 2: I was just check.

1579
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 3: Let me, I'm picturing my dad saying it that way. Now.

1580
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1581
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 3: I think either way is acceptable.

1582
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: Fair enough. Uh. Elsewhere on the tweet sheet, Phil says

1583
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 2: Eagles game six hour ride, great opponent, likely primetime game,

1584
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: good matchup of very different styles of football. McDermott back

1585
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: where his story began. Not a regular opponent Eagles game,

1586
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 2: for sure, Phil really thought about that. He laid out

1587
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,520
Speaker 2: a laundry list of reasons.

1588
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 3: Why it's attract Phil wants to go to Philly.

1589
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: Apparently he does. Apparently he does, And he did all

1590
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 2: that laying out reasons and not a single mention of

1591
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: cheese steaks. So he really puts some thought into that.

1592
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 2: I give you credit, phil On.

1593
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one.

1594
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 2: I will admit, Jack says, Casey and La sound fun,

1595
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: but available time and monies will probably rule them out.

1596
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 2: So Washington or Foxborough will probably be my selected destinations.

1597
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 2: Lots to do in both DC and Boston, and both

1598
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 2: are less than a seven hour drive from Western New York,

1599
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: so easy to do in a weekend. Will just depend

1600
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 2: on when they fall on the calendar, which makes sense.

1601
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 2: You know, if you're going to do a seven hour drive,

1602
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 2: you probably don't want to do it in mid December.

1603
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: If you could do it in October, it's a much

1604
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 2: better drive because you even get the benefit of the

1605
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 2: fall foliage while you're driving to Boston or DC.

1606
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, though, the Kansas City thing,

1607
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 3: it's getting to be like a division. Opponents all were

1608
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 3: there all the time, and I think there are some

1609
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 3: Bills fans who have gotten quite chummy with some you know, yeah,

1610
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 3: they have gotten to be friendly with Chiefs fans because

1611
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 3: you know, the food and the time and the and

1612
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 3: the regularity of it, and the great games that they play.

1613
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to be mad when you lose

1614
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 3: a game. To the to Kansas City when the games

1615
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 3: are always so good, you know, and there's always a

1616
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 3: little bit of meaning to the games as well, even

1617
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 3: if it is you know, early in the season for

1618
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 3: bragging rights at the time. So yeah, I think that

1619
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 3: the Chiefs game is getting to the point where it's

1620
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: almost like a Miami game, you know, kind of a

1621
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 3: yearly event because it's always in Kansas City too, apparently.

1622
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 2: Well right, yeah, the rotation, I'm not doing us any favors,

1623
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 2: although I think if so next year. So in this

1624
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 2: season it's obviously in Kansas City, but if the Bills

1625
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs, like both win their divisions, they'll play

1626
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: each other again, and I think the next time it'll

1627
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: be here, although the last time Patrick Mahomes was here

1628
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty in front of no fans and

1629
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: they won. Meanwhile, the Bills have won there so in

1630
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 2: the regular season. Jimmy on the tweets sheet says, outside

1631
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 2: of London, Casey or Philly definitely on the list. And

1632
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: it's got that's got to be for the magnitude of

1633
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 2: those games, right, I mean, you're talking about the two

1634
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: teams that were conference champions. That's the appeal there. Even

1635
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: more than where you're going. It's who you're playing, right,

1636
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 2: two really high caliber teams. That's the allure. I think,

1637
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 2: Rick however, says, I'd say the Jets game for me,

1638
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: revenge for last year's debacle down there and remind Jets

1639
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 2: fans just who the three time division champs are. Go

1640
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 2: a couple of days early, take in a Broadway show

1641
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: and a little sight seeing.

1642
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 3: Well you go, Rick, Hey, the city's great. Spend a weekend.

1643
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 3: It's it's fantastic. You get a nice place to stay

1644
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 3: that's handy, either just off Central Park or somewhere down there.

1645
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 3: And uh, I mean you can walk everywhere that you

1646
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: know you want to go. You can spend it. You

1647
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 3: can take if you're there for three days, you can

1648
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 3: take three day trips on foot in different directions from

1649
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 3: a hotel, any hotel down there and have a blast.

1650
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 3: So the city's great to go visit. And certainly if

1651
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 3: you're throwing a Bills game out in the meadowlands, it's

1652
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 3: like presto chango there he goes right in indication.

1653
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 2: And if you're driving it back to Western New York,

1654
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: you're already in Jersey and you're going west, right go home,

1655
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 2: and the traffic conceivably shouldn't be as bad as going

1656
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 2: south or east right to the city or back to

1657
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 2: New York. You know, whether you're a Jets fan from Long.

1658
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 3: Island, I mean you have, yeah, game traffics. You know,

1659
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 3: it's the same ole good right, it's never good. But yeah,

1660
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 3: that's that's a good point. So and it is like

1661
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 3: what it's like a six hour drive six and that's

1662
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 3: about it. I mean, you're you know, the one o'clock game,

1663
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 3: You're out of there at four point thirty. Get out

1664
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 3: of the studium. You're out. Yeah, you're you're not overly

1665
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 3: tired the world before midnight.

1666
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 2: But where a lot of us are suspecting that game

1667
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 2: could be a primetimer. Yeah, ills at Jet.

1668
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 3: I think at Jet. I think it happens opening weekend.

1669
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. David on the tweet,

1670
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:33,879
Speaker 2: she says Cincinnati for him, the team needs the support

1671
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 2: down there to close the book on that. It's a

1672
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: good point.

1673
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 3: I see that, that's a good point.

1674
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: I hadn't thought of that. David and his true supportive

1675
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 2: fan self wants to make sure the team feels supported

1676
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 2: down there, because that's not going to be an easy

1677
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: road trip for the team either, right, you know, with

1678
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: all that went down the last time. So yeah, the

1679
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: support I think would be appreciated there, maybe even more

1680
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 2: than any other road venue by the players. I think

1681
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: they would appreciate that if you could make it feel

1682
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: like a home game for them. Yeah, I think it

1683
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: would make a difference.

1684
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 3: I really do.

1685
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 2: Jake on the tweets sheet says the Eagles game, I

1686
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: wouldn't mind getting rowdy with some of their fans. Careful

1687
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 2: what you wish for, Jake. They don't pull punches down

1688
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 2: there in.

1689
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 3: Philly literally, and yeah you don't want to get You

1690
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 3: can go down there and have fun, for sure, you

1691
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 3: just don't want to get tuned up, you know. So yeah, yeah.

1692
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 5: Uh.

1693
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 2: Pocono Bills fan says New Jersey Jets is my road

1694
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 2: game as I am only seventy minutes from Met Life

1695
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 2: Go Bills, So there you go. I like that there's

1696
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: some variety here, Steve. I mean, it's not just the

1697
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 2: same answers. Is its same three or four for the

1698
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,959
Speaker 2: most part, here's a new one, Allen says Miami Dolphins.

1699
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: Usually the Buffalo Miami game switched the time of year

1700
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: each season, I think going to Miami in December January

1701
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: it would be a good break from the cold here

1702
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: in Buffalo. He is right about that. The league does

1703
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,839
Speaker 2: flip those sometimes, like last year it was at Miami

1704
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 2: early home Buffalo late. Maybe they flip it this year,

1705
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: so you know, Miami's happy because they're coming up here

1706
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: when the weather's still decent, and then the Bills go

1707
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 2: down there when it's not one hundred and twenty on

1708
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: the field. That would be nice and light of how

1709
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 2: last year.

1710
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 3: Went, that's right now. The Dolphins had to come up

1711
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 3: here in playoffs as well, so they didn't they didn't

1712
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 3: escape anything, but they came up twice at the end

1713
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 3: of the season, so it I liked it. Always liked

1714
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 3: it better when they flipped it where the Dolphins would

1715
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 3: come up here early in the year and you go

1716
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 3: down there late. You get one more good weather game

1717
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 3: and a time when it's hard to find, particularly up Pere.

1718
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: So I'm all about that. Yeah, And we've always you

1719
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 3: always get Big Bill's crowd in Miami on the away game.

1720
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 3: It's just for some people that's their game all the

1721
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 3: time because they can always count on.

1722
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: It, and you know, they know they're getting nice weather

1723
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 2: and actually if it's late in the season and they

1724
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 2: got the weather up here.

1725
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 3: Down there, got their favorite hotel, they got their favorite beach,

1726
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,799
Speaker 3: they got their favorite club, they got their favorite restaurant,

1727
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 3: they got their favorite.

1728
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: We saw it last year Week three. I mean we're

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01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: pulling up a one A to the hotel on Saturday

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01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: and it was along the beach there. Truly bi mafia.

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01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 9: It was.

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01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 3: There's video two straight blocks. There was online. There's social

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01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 3: media videos of people watching the both videos. The guys

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01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 3: were showing out their thing where they were driving by,

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01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 3: and it was it was like going victory parade and

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01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 3: then you show then you had it from the side

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01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 3: where the people we're showing the exact same thing. So

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01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 3: it was Yeah, I think that the dependability of what

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01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 3: it's going to be like down there and the routine

1740
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 3: of it, I think a lot of people love that trip,

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01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 3: love that trip.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here a couple of final thoughts

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01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 2: on the twat for your road venue you're looking forward

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01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: to the most besides that London game on the Bills schedule,

1745
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 2: when we close a Tuesday edition out here on one

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01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 2: Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health, it's Buffalo

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01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 2: Bill's Radio. All right back here on One Bill's Live.

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01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve cask with you on a Tuesday. One

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01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: last comment from the tweet sheet where we were asking

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01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 2: you today what is the most attractive road trip on

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01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 2: the schedule besides the London game? And it's been a

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01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 2: pretty mixed opinion on it. I think there's been about

1753
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 2: four or five teams that have kind of taken the

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01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 2: majority of the responses. Smoking Trees chimes in with My

1755
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: buddy is a huge Chiefs fan and goes to a

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01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 2: few games each year, and he keeps trying to get

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01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 2: me to go. I haven't taken him up on the

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01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 2: offer yet, but maybe this season I will. It's pretty

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01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 2: much been Chiefs Jets, and there was a Miami in there,

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01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: and somebody mentioned La for the Chargers game is a

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01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: nice trip, but it might be too costly.

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01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 3: So I get that Chargers playing so fi great stadium.

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01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 3: You kind of like to see some of these people.

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01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 3: Some people known that these stadiums are around for a

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01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 3: couple two or three decades, in some cases four or fifty,

1766
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 3: like the Bills Stadium. But you want to go to

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01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 3: all the stadiums. You want to be there. Yeah, so

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01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 3: you might want to go to SOFI if you didn't

1769
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 3: get a chance to get out there last year. Although

1770
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: a lot of people went out to the Rams opening game.

1771
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 2: Line because it was a Thursday, that made it. You

1772
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 2: could still get a week Yeah, long weekend, no problem

1773
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: starting work on Monday.

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01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he turned around. It's a long enough trip

1775
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 3: to justify the expense, that kind of thing.

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01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so thanks, thanks for all the responses everybody.

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01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: I thought there was a good mixed opinion on that,

1778
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 2: and you know, the London game may be the overall winner.

1779
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 2: But aside from that, there were some to choose from,

1780
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 2: especially with some quality teams. Cincinnati was on there also,

1781
01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: we forgot to make.

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01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah even so, yeah, it's a lot of things that

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01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 3: choose from. And I know Bill's fans will support them

1784
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:04,560
Speaker 3: no matter where they are. So we'll see how it

1785
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:05,879
Speaker 3: goes when of season unfolds.

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01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 2: That's it for us on a Tuesday. We would be

1787
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 2: all right back here on Wednesday to talk more schedule

1788
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 2: with you. We'll see it one