1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Aol Zone Media. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Oh man, welcome back to it could happen here the 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: only podcast that takes sole responsibility for the assassination of 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: So we're back. We're still at CES. We're slightly more 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: sober than we were last night. 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but we are more high on ces. 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: We are higher on cees. If you haven't been, The 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: Consumer Electronics Show is one hundred and twenty thousand or 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: so people all flooding into Las Vegas for about four days, 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: where they walk around in a convention center that if 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: you grew up in a small town, the convention center 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: is larger than where you grew up. And it's just 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: wall to wall a mix of incredible new technology, achievements 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: that are going to change people's lives, absolute nonsense, vaporware, 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: repackaged old shit, and stuff that will get someone you 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: love killed, all just crammed together in this massive room 17 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: the size of a small world, and yeah, you just 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: kind of go crazy slowly living in it. This is Robert, 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: you know me and Garrison? Hello, you know Garrison, And 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: returning from part one is Tavia Mora, our resident technological expert. Tavia, 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: how'd you feel in your second day out on the floor. 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 4: Exhausted and excited to be impressed by stuff. 23 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well that is what we're doing today today's episode. 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: Last time we tell keep that mic in your hand. 25 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Last episode we talked about the most obviously stupid products. 26 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: So Tavia, I want you to start us off with 27 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: what is a good product something you saw today or 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 2: yesterday that you thought that thing is fucking cool. 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: Well, let's see. I think we're in the North Hall. 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: It was in the North Hall that we saw This 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: is a gadget called wheel me that was just a 32 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: simple rolling platform that I would track along where it 33 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: was supposed to go on the ground. But what I 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: saw on it was a road case, and I was 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: very excited. Since I work in a lot of the 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: event spaces and when I have to move to and 37 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: from kind of where we're like staging a lot of 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: stuff to where the site is, it's really nice to 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: have the extra help. The extra lift that was marketed 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: pretty much directly toward me. As soon as I saw it, 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: instantly wanted it. I could see I use for that. 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it seemed like a potentially really useful thing. Obviously, 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: the mount that they had wouldn't be able to go 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: up or down stairs. Well, but if you're moving across 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: like a large warehouse space or something like the kind 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: of folece where a lot of events are held, or 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: a concert space, I could see it being a real 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: labor saver. And we did see there was another product 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: there that was like it was a delivery robot for 50 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: like delivering food that they had built away for it 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: to go upstairs, where it basically had a large, maybe 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: two feet diameter wheel and there were like plastic spokes 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: and then the outside of the wheel is like soft 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: plastic like the actual tread itself, and so it would 55 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: just kind of bend to conform to the shape of 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: the stairs, and it was able to roll smoothly upstairs 57 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: on its wheels as a result of that, which I 58 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: thought was kind of impressive. And that's one of the 59 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: nicer things, is like seeing like, oh, somebody really puts 60 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: some thought into that. That's a legitimately clever idea as 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: opposed to a product we didn't mention last time. But 62 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: it's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. A 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: guy who created smart plants, who used the power of 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: AI to make your plants able to communicate with you, 65 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: so It's basically a huge plastic flower plant pets with 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: a Z spelled with a Z. 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: And basically you can't talk to it. But most of 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: what humane to we were just molesting the plants. 69 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: It will it has speakers in the flower pots, so 70 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: would you like stroke the leaves? It will giggle like 71 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: this is It was immediately like, oh, this is made 72 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: for some kind of weird sex freak like some. 73 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 4: And didn't it like spin back and forth a little 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: bit as oh, he's giggling. 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: It like it shimmered, it like danced the pod around, 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: it made it made small little noises. It was. It 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: was quite something. And the guy was incredibly enthusiastic about 78 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: his about his talking, his talking giggling plants. 79 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: He was following his passion truly. 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: You could see yeah in his eyes. I will say 81 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: the product worked. I'm just not sure it did work 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: the product is for, but it was one of the 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: more functional pieces of technology we've seen. It did. 84 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: He also said that like when the plants were dry, 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: it would like make the sound like a bubbling water sound, 86 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: which I think is a mistake. It should scream at 87 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: you when you have not watered the plants recently enough. 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: But I do love how clearly he was obsessed with 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: the brilliance of this design. That is one of the 90 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: fun things at the smaller booths at a show like this, 91 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: because like you know, you got like big companies LG 92 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: and Lenovo and Honda, all these massive companies with very slick, 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: expensive booths, and then you have in other areas just 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: like a little square that's just a crazy person with 95 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: the thing that they've dedicated their life to building. And 96 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: sometimes it's the most brilliant thing you've ever seen. And 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: sometimes it's a flower poth that that giggles when you molest. 98 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's plant, but it's you. 99 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: I always appreciate the fact that, well, at least you 100 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: threw your life into this stupid thing. 101 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it's always kind of endearing, like yeah, yeah, 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 3: no matter what it is, it's it's fun to see 103 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: someone who's like, figure it out life. 104 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, a man. Yeah, you know who you are. You're 105 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: the plant pets guy. Is that a good thing to be? 106 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, that's not yeah, that's not that's not 107 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: on me. Uh. 108 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we certainly saw a lot of a lot 109 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: of products walking walking the show floor today, not nearly 110 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: as many metaverse products as there were last year, and 111 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: there were still some. I was finally able to try 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: the Haptics tax suit, which I missed last year. This 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: is it's basically a vest that zips up. It's it's 114 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: not as painful as some of the other haptic suits 115 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 3: that I tried out last year, which I kind of 116 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: you enjoyed the ones that are just like actually hurt you. 117 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like basically shock you in such a way 118 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: as to simulate a stab, wound or something. 119 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: That was cool. Yeah, this one by B hacked. This 120 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: one by b Haptics was very user friendly. It wasn't 121 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: it wasn't really painful, but it worked. It worked pretty well. 122 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: What else? What else did we see walking walking into 123 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 3: the big central hall? Oh? There was there was that 124 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: thing that I wish was real but probably will never be, 125 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: which is the LG podcasting camphor hand. 126 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. So LG the people who may or may not 127 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: have made your TV, but there's a decent chance they did. 128 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: They have their big booth. It's mostly like TVs and 129 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: smart home connected and entertainment stuff. But then they had 130 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: like a concept product that was like a camper trailer. 131 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: It was actually a really nice layout, but for what 132 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 2: you know camper trailers, they have all these little like 133 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: cubby holes and storage spaces built into the sides in 134 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: the back, and so underneath the bed that took up 135 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: the back, they had like a folding down space where 136 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 2: it was like it was like stored a half dozen 137 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: bottles of wine and glasses in a very like pleasing way. 138 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: But then in the center of the wine and the 139 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: glasses are two like recording microphones. Like that's just like 140 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: they made a van for podcasting alcoholics and. 141 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: I respect very targeted audience there. 142 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. On the other side of it was a fold 143 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: down panel that was like a lot of campers have 144 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: that you could fold it down and it's like a table, 145 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: but on the wall, like once you fold it down, 146 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: underneath the part of it that folds down, it's like 147 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: a TV screen that they had tuned to like a 148 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: fire place, like a campfire video. Just like if I 149 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: am out in the wilderness, I am not putting on 150 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: a campfire video. That's the most depressing thing I can imagine. 151 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: Why would you do that? But that was fun in 152 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: terms of like actually impressive things. There's a product we 153 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: saw our first night out there. The time Kettle. I 154 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: don't know why they gave him up that name. It 155 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with what the product does. This 156 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 2: is a translation device specifically, it's it's like the star 157 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: trekiest thing I saw, because first off, it's a little 158 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: retro It's like a kind of a thick rectangular prism 159 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: with a screen on it. And the rep from the 160 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: company was like a Chinese man who clearly was like 161 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: spoke Mandarin is his native language, and we had a 162 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: conversation talking into this thing, and it would translate and 163 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: speak back to each other. And there's like a little 164 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: compartment on it that pops out, and it has two earphones. 165 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: You could each put one in each person's ear to 166 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: have like a live conversation that's translated over it. You 167 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: can also hook it in through your phone. I know 168 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: there's a couple of devices like that. This is the 169 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 2: one I've seen that seemed both the smoothest and the 170 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: most kind of like purpose built of them. I thought 171 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: it was really impressive, and it's one of those only 172 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: you don't get those so often these days, but like 173 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: every now and then at a show like this, you 174 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 2: see a piece of technology that's like, well, this is 175 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: what I assumed we would be doing with computers when 176 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: I was a kid in the future, right, there would 177 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: be an instant translator, a babblefish device that you could 178 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: just fit in your pocket, and it is kind of 179 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: fucking dope, and I thought it worked really well. Liked 180 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: I could have conducted an interview with this guy through 181 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: that thing and it would have been pretty seamless, which 182 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: which was nice to see. Speaking of Mandarin, I don't know, 183 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: whatever products you're listening to, there's like a good thirty 184 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: percent chance they're made over in China. So support the 185 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: Chinese economy. We're back. So one of the things we 186 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: did at this trade show, most of the time we 187 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: spent was not out on the floor looking at products, 188 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: it was attending these different speeches and panels, like where 189 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: they'll have people from like they had like one of 190 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 2: Google's AI heads and like the head of McDonald's AI integration, 191 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: which is happening for some reason. We'll talk more about 192 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: this in our dedicated AI episodes that are coming a 193 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: bit later. But on one of the panels it was 194 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: AI is the Fifth Industrial Revolution, was the name of 195 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: the panel. They did not once to talk about what 196 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: industrial revel The other four were or why this one was? 197 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: They just said that title like five times. They were 198 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: very proud of it. And one who was that Lady Garrison. 199 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: The Alexa lady with the iHeart AI shirt. 200 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: Yes, there was a lady with a shirt that said 201 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: iHeart is Was she the dividend lady? 202 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: No, the dividend lady was from was from the Synthetic 203 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 3: Information panel? 204 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, oh sorry, sorry sorry that was the other panel. Yeah. Yeah, 205 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: there was a panel in like deep fakes and AI harms, 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: and there was a lady on there who was like 207 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: some sort of relevant expert. But she kept using the 208 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: term the liar's dividend to refer to the money that 209 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 2: you make if you're a scammer, and she kept using 210 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: it in the way she used it. I immediately thought, like, oh, 211 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: this lady wants to sell a book and that's the 212 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: title of the book, right, Like, that's very clearly she's 213 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: mentioning it in such a pointed, unnatural way. That was 214 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: my assumption. Aparently the term. 215 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: Has existed for a few years now. 216 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: It seems useless to me because like, if you're saying 217 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 2: someone is a fraudster, well, the diviend is the money 218 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: they make committing fraud. Like, you don't need to give 219 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: it another name. It's not like that's like again, it's 220 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: like calling the money you get robbing a bank the 221 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: bank robbers dividend. Well, that's just a stupid thing to say. So, yeah, 222 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: we've been using that for everything now and now you 223 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: are all enjoying the podcaster's dividend here. You know, that's 224 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: that's what you're listening to. 225 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: Speaking of listening, we tried good pivot here, say thank 226 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: you loud to you, thank you. We call that the 227 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: Segway dividend. We tried. I know Robert's familiar with this, 228 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: but I've not tried them out before until today. I 229 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: think it's called chokes shocks. Shocks. 230 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wear those headphones every day. Yeah. They're like 231 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: bone conducting headphones. 232 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: Bone conducting headphones, so they don't go in your ear. 233 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 3: They go around like around the back of your head. 234 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 3: They hook around your ear lobe and they vibe right 235 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: and they can make you hear sounds in your brain. 236 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is pretty cool. 237 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 3: They were they had they just launched a new waterproof 238 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: model targeting like swimmers. 239 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: Yes, IP sixty eight or something like that. Like, yeah, 240 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: it's it's supposed to be. You can submerge it for 241 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 2: like hours at two meters of depth, so you can 242 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: like swim with them on. 243 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: But I really enjoyed these. Yeah, apparently they can help 244 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: some people who have like targeted hearing loss, So that's 245 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 3: that's an actually neat piece of working technology. 246 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool if you're not aware of these, 247 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: because when we say, like Whin said, you can hear 248 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: sounds to them. They're just like wearing normal headphones. But 249 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: we have a friend who is deaf in one ear 250 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: and put them on for the first time recently. It 251 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: was able to like hear out of that ear for 252 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 2: the first time in years, which is like kind of 253 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: an amazing thing to be able to do with a 254 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: fucking set of headphones that are they're not cheap headphones, 255 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: but they're not like inaccessibly expensive. All right, Tavia, you 256 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: got another one you wanted to talk about. 257 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was the product that we ran into that 258 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: was very close to the tact suit that Garrison had 259 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: tried on, and it's called three D Desk. It looks 260 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: to be like an additional add on you can put 261 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 4: on top of your desk that you would use if 262 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: you were working. The one that we had seen was 263 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: a standing sitting style desk and it has the actual 264 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 4: product itself on top of it, which looked to be 265 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 4: like a stand, and it had two monitors attached to 266 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 4: one plane of it, and then with like I think 267 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: a simple button switch, it would sort of like another 268 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: monitor would swoop out from behind them, and there was 269 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: sort of like this cycling monitor arrangement that I hadn't 270 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: quite seen before. And I work a lot with a 271 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: bunch of different types of programs, and I'm like more 272 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: or less stuck to my desk most of the time. 273 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: So this actually looked to be another really useful product 274 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: for somebody like me, not unlike the wheel me. 275 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the thing you can if you've seen 276 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: like a drafting table, right like those desks, it's basically 277 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: a big desk that you can like pushed down so 278 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 2: that like the desk part is almost parallel and you 279 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: can like put stick paper and stuff on and you 280 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: can draw draw on it, like it's what architects use. 281 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: It has that, so like underneath the monitors there's this 282 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: top desk piece that you can like flip up and 283 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: you can put stuff on, like use it as like 284 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: a drafting table, or push it back down, you know, 285 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: with the switch of a button. It's pretty cool looking desk. 286 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have like the two monitors and then 287 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: this sort of like this plane that would be sitting 288 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: at like a thirty nine degree angle or so kind 289 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: of from you, so you can set a bunch of 290 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: books up or a bunch of notes you're taking or organizing. 291 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, as a general rule, it was one of the 292 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: like the products that I kept finding myself gravitating towards 293 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: in our free time. There was like anything that had 294 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: nothing to do with AI, because yeah, anyone who could 295 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: who could find any reason to stick AI in something 296 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: like people there's people selling like battery generators that are 297 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: like AI assisted, and it's like, what do you mean 298 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: it means? It means it cuts off the power when 299 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: it's full. 300 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: Well, unbelievable. 301 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: That's not a that's just a battery working better, Like, 302 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: come on, guys, It's this thing the tech industry does 303 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: that that has has been exposed by like a lot 304 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: of the products we've seen this year, many of whom 305 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: are like just absolute nonsense, like the the wehead thing 306 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: that that that like hideous chatbot that looks like a 307 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: broken human face and just deeply off putting. Now that said, 308 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: there was a really cool product that we uh uh 309 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: that I actually like liked, the AI use application. So 310 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: there's a company called Cellistron that makes they're calling it 311 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: a like a home observatory, and it's it looks like 312 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: a big telescope. It's not cheap. It's not insanely expensive 313 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: for a telescope, mind you, but it's it's not inexpensive, 314 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: and it is like a motorized telescope that it uses 315 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: like AI, like some sort of AI program in order 316 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: to cut out light pollution and stuff and enhance the 317 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: images that you're you're getting so that you can actually 318 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: get clear images of like galaxies and other planets from 319 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: your backyard. And it hooks into like a phone or 320 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: a tablet or computer like wirelessly. It actually generates its 321 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: own Wi Fi network, so you can still use even 322 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: if you don't have Internet. But one of what you 323 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: can do is you could control it from like an iPad, 324 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: and you could port the feed directly to your TV, 325 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: and you could like direct you could have like a 326 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: group of people sitting around snorting whatever drugs you prefer 327 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: to snort and like looking at different galaxies and shit 328 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: in space. And that was pretty fucking cool and actually 329 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: like an actual application of machine learning that I thought 330 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: was positive. 331 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can have like your little at home star parties. 332 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: I dug in a little bit more on like how 333 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: AI gets used there, and it seemed like it was 334 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: mostly part of the image processing before controls get set 335 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: to the user and they have like other adjustments such 336 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: as brightness, contrast, that kind of thing, But it sounds 337 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: like it does like some image processing as part of 338 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: its AI capabilities. 339 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was neat. Again, not a cheap product, 340 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: but like actually something that's seeing it used impressed me 341 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: and I could see wanting to have that, And I 342 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 2: could also see like a clear bit my roommate has 343 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: telescopes and stuff, and there's usually the light pollution is 344 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: too much of a pain in the ass and fucking 345 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: even in Portland, which is not the worst city for 346 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: light pollution in this country to use them very well. 347 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: So something like that, and also just being able to 348 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: easily drop it onto your TV and like hang out 349 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: with friends, like if I had fight at access to 350 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: something like that back when I was doing hallucinogens. I 351 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: think it would have used it a lot. 352 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds that sounds promising. 353 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: Speaking of things that I would have used a lot 354 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: as a young man. Garrison, you want to tell us 355 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: about the hand job machine. 356 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 3: Sure, So there's this Company's what you said to get 357 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 3: a second there. So there's this company in Norway called Handy. 358 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: They they make they make interactive, interactive sex toys. They 359 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 3: started by targeting the male sex toy demographic, or as 360 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 3: they I actually liked that. They that they actually more 361 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: often said the penis uh demographic, which yeah, which was nice. 362 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 363 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, But anyway, it's uh, it's it's a little thing 364 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: that you can you can slight and it. 365 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: Goes up like it looks like a nice coffee thermoscy. 366 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 2: Its kind of like with like a little tube that 367 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: has like a clear plastic penis prism. 368 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 3: Next to it. It has what has when it has 369 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: like a has like a stroker sleeve attached in and 370 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: you can control like the speed and vibration just on 371 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: on the little like thermous looking thing. But the real 372 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: features of the Handy is that it also has hands 373 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: free control that you can you can hook this thing 374 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: up via an app to many different sources. You can 375 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: hook this up to whatever you're watching on your computer. 376 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: You can hook this up to movies. You can hook 377 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: this up to an Amazon Alexa if that's your thing, 378 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: and the sounds will will impact how the how the 379 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: Stroker moves. The one of the more promising applications which 380 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: it really also opens opens the field of music, is 381 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: that you can hook it up to like your Spotify 382 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: or something and the music and like the beats of 383 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 3: the rhythm will impact the vibrations and speed on the stroker. 384 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: So we can now learn which songs are best for orgasms, 385 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: which opens a whole new, whole new category for the Grammys. 386 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of trial and error. I 387 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: think one hundred gex is definitely gonna be up there. 388 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: I think nickel Back is going to make a comeback. 389 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be the Billie Joel renaissance. Just 390 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: just people spilling ropes over down Easter Alexas Christ. 391 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: They also just launched a second product called I Think 392 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: just a the O, which is just a more classic 393 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: small handheld vibrator. Similarly like the Handy, It's it's based 394 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: on actual like sound vibrations, not a motorized vibration. So 395 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 3: it similarly can hook can hook up to music and 396 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: that changes the way it feels. So we have we 397 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: have not been able to test these yet because he 398 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: didn't actually have free copies. 399 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: They only had to give Garrison a penis sheath. 400 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: They only they only had the free sleeves. But the 401 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: actual device is two hundred dollars, which is not is 402 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 3: not super expensive. Uh, considering this style of like sex toy, 403 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: that is kind of standard. Yeah, yeah, that was. That 404 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 3: was one of the the more professional booths sexually. Yeah 405 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: and see yes, and this is they did a really 406 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: good job. 407 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: This is a good time for me to tell my 408 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: favorite masturbation machine story. Oh so there's a product. Oh boy, 409 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: you know, for the penis having demographic, there's not as 410 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: many sex toys traditionally, not as many at least fun 411 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: ones out there. It's it's it's a little bit of 412 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: a barren wasteland. But there is the flesh light. And 413 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: if you haven't seen a fleshlight, maybe you've heard about them. 414 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: It does look like a big, heavy plastic flashlight and 415 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: you unscrew the top and there's a fake vagina in 416 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: there right. Some of them are shaped like asses, some 417 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: of them are sex asses. 418 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 4: Sometimes there are a button. Sometimes there are a mouth too. 419 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, there's mouths too. And I once had 420 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: a friend who got in some trouble with the law, 421 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: and we had to drive to their house and grab 422 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: a bunch of things in their house and throw them 423 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: away because we weren't sure if the police were going 424 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 2: to be showing up. And so after we did that 425 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: that night, it was a very depressed, very sad night, 426 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: and we all got extremely drunk, and three of the 427 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: four of us are standing out on the front porch 428 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: in front of like the house that we're at, and 429 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: then the fourth person in the room, who was like 430 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: roommates with the person who had just been arrested, comes 431 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: out with the arrested person's fleshlight and for reasons known 432 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: only to them, and God hurls it at us. Now 433 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: we're in like this is a we're in Richardson, Texas, 434 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 2: and like it's kind of this walled off by concrete bricks, 435 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: little front porch area, and we all bolt to get 436 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: away from the fleshlight and it hits the brick wall 437 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: and the plastic case shatters and then the thing hits 438 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: the ground and the fake plast silicone vagina inside of 439 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 2: it slithers out like like a living creature, probably lubricated 440 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: by some sort of substance, and it was one of 441 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: the most unsettling moments of my life. 442 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: I'm really glad you could share that with the Strawberry 443 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: that the sound was incredible. 444 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 2: It did. Yeah, it sounded a lot like if you've 445 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: ever seen that episode Always Sonny where where Danny DeVito 446 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: gets berthed from a couch like covered in sweat. It 447 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: sounded a lot like that, I imagine. 448 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 3: And we call that experience the flesh Lights Dividend. 449 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: The Fleshlight Dividend. That's right now, speaking of jacking off, 450 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 2: The next product we're going to talk about is Jackery, 451 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: a company that makes some really actually pretty cool like 452 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 2: survival equipment, specifically like solar battery, solar panel and battery resetups. 453 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: And we're going to talk about that because it's definitely 454 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: like of the products we saw here the most in 455 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: our miliu as like the world is falling apart show. 456 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: So we're gonna get to that. But first, here's some ads. 457 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: We're back and we're talking about Jackery, which it's fun. 458 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: One of the things I appreciate about this is that 459 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: the hand job machine could have been called jack the Jackery, 460 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: or the company could have been called Jackerreye. And likewise, 461 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 2: the company that makes batteries and solar panels could have 462 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: been called Handy because it's handy. They have a solar 463 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: battery around when you're camping. Curious, interesting, interesting stuff. Yeah, 464 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: a lot of thoughts there thoughts to be thought. 465 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: Oddly, that ven diagram crossover is closer than I thought 466 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: it would be. 467 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: So jackerrey is a cut I would recommend googling their 468 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: stuff they make. There's a lot the field of like 469 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: solar batteries and panels is super crowded right now, and 470 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: most of the batteries you're gonna are gonna be made 471 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: like one of the same two or three factories. It's 472 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: basically the same factory makes a bunch of companies batteries, 473 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: and a lot of them are very unsafe. There was 474 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: a company that sent me some review samples like a 475 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: whole solar generator and battery last year that I was 476 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: going to kind of do a piece about, you know, 477 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: surviving on a solar generator, and then a month after 478 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 2: it arrived I was still testing it. It came out 479 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: that they had burned down a bunch of people's houses 480 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: because the batteries were insane. No, yeah, so you want 481 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: to be careful with this stuff. Jackery is one of 482 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: the I have had good luck with some of their products. 483 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: They seem to be of a high build quality. I 484 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: have not heard horror stories about them. When you go 485 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: to the the their booth of people there seem to 486 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: be genuinely knowledgeable, and the way in which they set 487 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: it up and demo it suggests a degree of knowledge 488 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: about the product and like what people want out of it. 489 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: So one of the things they do have some really 490 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: large including some like some solar batteries with generators with 491 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: solar panel generators that are large enough to run like 492 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: a deep freeze, which is really cool being able to 493 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 2: do that. And the setup they had specifically was a 494 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: like an actual like serious, like solid like not one 495 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: of those folding panel setups that goes on the roof 496 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: of your car or truck alongside with like a tint 497 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: like one of those via truck talk tents for overlanding, 498 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: and then plugs into you know, either their one thousand 499 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: or like two thousand watt solar generator or yeah so 500 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 2: or a battery generators and just everything about the way 501 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: it was set up seemed really practical. It seemed durable. 502 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: It didn't feel like something was gonna fall apart. Yeah, 503 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: I can see it being like a legitimate like even 504 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 2: outside of the car, because that's more or less like 505 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: a hobby it's sort of thing. But having one of 506 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: these generators that you can actually run your fridge and 507 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: your freezer and your lights in your house all like 508 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: they had some like an outage. 509 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 3: Microwaves, stuff, cooking implements, o other kind of stuff you 510 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 3: might take for like like you know, like a week 511 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 3: in mountain trip or something. The main the main roof 512 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: Mountain Pad, I think I was able to pull four 513 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: hundred watts, and then it had two sliding up panels 514 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: that can pull three hundred watts so that they could get. 515 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: Hot and in a sunny day, they said you could 516 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: get like nine hundred watts an hour. 517 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, really good for watts an hour, which is 518 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: which is quite impressive. And they have all the batteries 519 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 3: to store it. And by by far, I think Jackery 520 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: is the most consistent company in this field that I 521 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: could I routinely see high praise for because the feel 522 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 3: of like portable solar like solar charging is kind of 523 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: a little bit sketchy sometimes, Yes, stuff can easily break, 524 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: things to be really easily over marked. Like I had 525 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: a solar panel to to to charge my iPad that 526 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: really only lasted like two weeks and it just completely 527 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: stopped working. But I've only heard only heard good things 528 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: about Jackery. I have not tested them out myself. I 529 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: know Robert has some of them. Robert has some of 530 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 3: their battery equipment, but hopefully we'll be able to get 531 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: our hands on some of that this year. 532 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 4: They also had a lot of different form factors of 533 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 4: the same types of products, so a lot of smaller 534 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 4: versions of things that seem to be really good if 535 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 4: you need a kind of more modular setup. That was 536 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 4: for sure. 537 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had like large ones that you could basically 538 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: have plugged into your house in case you lose power 539 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: for a small period of time in order to like 540 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: ensure that you don't like you don't actually have a 541 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: period where the power's out. And then they had a 542 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: lot of like really good camping sort of like off 543 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: grid battery options it's just cool. Take take a look 544 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: at the if you are if you are someone who 545 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: is in the kind of financial situation that you can 546 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: prep in that way where you're buying like solar equipment 547 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 2: and batteries, which definitely is never super cheap, right, I 548 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: would recommend checking them out at least as you kind 549 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: of do your research. 550 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: There's like two more products I think I want to mention. 551 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: The first is Shift. This is a company I was 552 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 3: already familiar with, but I got to try these out. 553 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: They look kind of like roller skates, but they're not 554 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: roller skates. They are these sort of boots with motorized 555 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 3: and locking wheels that attach onto your shoes. And their 556 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: use case for this is like factory workers. It makes 557 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: them real, It makes them be able to walk and move. 558 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: They said two and a half times faster, considerably faster. 559 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: I was able to walk at at a pretty at 560 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: a pretty decent speed. You can you can lock the 561 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: wheels if you need to, like do more like delicate 562 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: mobility tasks. 563 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: Go upstairs stairs ladders. 564 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 4: That was one way to even lock and unlock the 565 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 4: shoes themselves from being used. There's like a certain gesture 566 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 4: you had to make by you. 567 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 2: Lift up your heel I think it was, and it 568 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: locks the shoes so the wheels don't. 569 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 3: Come you lift up your heel in twest and and 570 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: it Yeah. 571 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: The boot itself had a hinge that was just under. 572 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: The Yeah, so I've seen these before. They look they 573 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 3: look kind of fun, but they're four kind of factory works. 574 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 3: So it's it's it's it's kind of a mixed bag 575 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 3: where the device worked quite well, and it took me 576 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: like just like maybe like like one minute to get 577 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: used to it. Then I could then I was really smooth. 578 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 3: But the actual operational use case they're envisioning is like 579 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: being able to get like get more, get more productivity out. 580 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: Of their workers the same amount of money, the same 581 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: amount of money. 582 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: So like, yeah, I think Robert made the pretty good comparison. 583 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: Like last year we tried out this exoskeleton, which also, 584 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: you know, they talked a bit about a little bit 585 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: about productivity specifically for like again factory workers, but that 586 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 3: extra teleton was also designed to help that worker not 587 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: damage their body. Like it was it was to make 588 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 3: sure that they actually can can stay safer and not 589 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: to as much damage their knees, their joints, their back 590 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 3: versus these little roller skate type shoes. Yeah, I have 591 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 3: no such have no such ability. 592 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 4: I mean it would it made you go faster, kind 593 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: of like one of those walkways that you have in 594 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: the airport. Who doesn't want to go a little bit faster. 595 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the way the guy repped it too, 596 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: where he was like, we have these factory workers. They're like, 597 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: I have the best job in the company. Now, it's 598 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: so fun skating around on these things. Nobody said that 599 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: to you, bro, Like, don't lie. 600 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: It's a nice thought. 601 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: He also claimed that there's not been one fall or 602 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: injury with these things, on which I just I do 603 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: not believe because I almost fell down to testing these out. 604 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure if you're carrying like heavy boxes like it's 605 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: it's very easy for your weight to get to get 606 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: away from yourself when you're literally walking on wheels like 607 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: and it can be controlling. It actually is more intuitive 608 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 3: than I thought it would be. But mistakes happen, and 609 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: those those sorts of big claims are a little bit 610 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: a little bit sketchy. 611 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: I found myself kind of waving my arms a little 612 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: bit out in front of me to keep my balance. 613 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: I wasn't like confet on them. 614 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, just watching you both, I could see like, well, yeah, 615 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: people are gonna get hurt. Now, I don't I am 616 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: sure because it seems to be easy enough to use 617 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: that I suspect it would. You could really get a 618 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: lot of extra money out of your workers as an 619 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: employer using these things, but at the cost of some 620 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: of them are gonna like fucking eat shit and hurt themselves, 621 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: which is not like in the grand scheme of corporate evil, 622 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: especially at the show where everybody's like talking about the 623 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: potential of AI to eliminate tens of millions of jobs. 624 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: Not really, it doesn't really scan. And I think we're 625 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: still putting this on the good episode because like they 626 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: worked in a way that they were technically impressive. We 627 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: just found it kind of upsetting that they were bragging about, 628 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: like you can get more money out of your already 629 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: exploited workforce with these. Yeah, but I could see someone 630 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: just getting these and because they would allow you if 631 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: you like, yeah, if you if you live in a 632 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: walkable city. 633 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: City neighborhood, it can make your commute times much faster. 634 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: And still probably safer than like you less risk maybe 635 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: than like a bike or something like that. 636 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to see somebody wear those at a 637 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: roller skating rink. 638 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's called that's called Shift Robotics. I believe 639 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: they're based out of Texas. Yeah. The last thing I 640 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: want to talk about. For both mine and Robert's job, 641 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: we use a lot of computer screens. I'm looking in 642 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: Roberts hotel room right now where we're recording. He has 643 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: a laptop hooked up to a second monitor. I have 644 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 3: a very similar setup I have. I have a laptop 645 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: and a secondary monitor on my desktop. I have like 646 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: three or four monitors always running at the same time, 647 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: just because of the absurdity of what our works sometimes entails, 648 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: so it could be hard to get things done on 649 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: a single screen. And we saw this one product that 650 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: looked just like a like a very like thick keyboard 651 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: with a with a touchpad, but it had these like 652 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: AR glasses attached. Now, AR is a tricky field. We 653 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: tried a lot of AR stuff last year. Most of 654 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: it some of it was okay, some of it was 655 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: a little bit finicky. But this company was called Sightful. Yeah, 656 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: and what this basically was is that it was a 657 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: fully functioning computer but instead of a instead of just 658 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 3: having a regular display, it has a display built into 659 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: these yeah, into these glasses. 660 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: The product itself looks like just the bottom half of 661 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: a laptop, like the keyboard part that holds the PCU 662 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: and shit with like this weird flappy thing attached to 663 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: the keyboard part that holds like a set of glasses 664 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: that are plugged in directly to the laptop. That's how 665 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: it like looks. 666 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 3: And when you put the glasses on, you get like 667 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: four screens that pop up. The screens aren't too big, 668 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: they're not too small. You can change the size by 669 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: using using the touchpad. And this require a lot less 670 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: like like a like a focusing like you usually when 671 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: you put on ar AR glasses you have to kind 672 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: of dial in the focal length to make them look right. 673 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: But this was all very clear. That text was easy 674 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 3: to read, Changing from one screen to another was pretty 675 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: was pretty easy. They had they had They had a 676 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: pass through mode like a lot of good ar does. 677 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: They had a mode where you can lock the screens 678 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: in place. You can turn your head and they don't move. 679 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 3: They had another version where you just with like keystrokes, 680 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: you could turn your head and the screens follow you, 681 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: so it was it was a pretty It was a 682 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: pretty useful device. 683 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. You could press a button and it would go 684 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: the screens would disappear, Like if you're walking while using it, 685 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: you can press a button and it would go clear, 686 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: so you wouldn't see it, but you could see where 687 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: you were. 688 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: Walking pass through. 689 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I typed an email or two, and like 690 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: did some googling on it, and I very quickly adapted 691 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: to the screens being virtual but still using a physical keyboard. 692 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: I we didn't get like motion sick with it. It 693 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: was not. Now. I think this is like either the 694 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: first or second iteration of this product. 695 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: First the first to market, the first. 696 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there is some ways to improve. It 697 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: runs its own Android operating system, which you know, if 698 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: you're trying to download applications. The fact that I can't 699 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 3: run Windows or Linux or even Apple's system, you know 700 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 3: that that could be a bit of a limitation. It 701 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: only had like two hundred and two hundred and like 702 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 3: fifty gigs of work. 703 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't really a full storage and power. It's a 704 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: little bit beefier than your phone. 705 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 706 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: The company the product, by the way, is called spacetop. Yeah, 707 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: sightful as the company's spacetop is the is the actual 708 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: product itself, and yeah, I. 709 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: Uh, we're gonna We're gonna keep our eye on it. 710 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't buy the first in of this thing. 711 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: It's about twenty two hundred bucks, which is like upper 712 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: mid level cost for a laptop. 713 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 3: My issue is at based on how expensive it is, 714 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: the laptop itself isn't powerful enough to justify that price. Certainly, 715 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: the fact that you know, I can act like I 716 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: have four monitors wherever I go, that is, that is 717 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: very convenient. I think I just need the laptop to 718 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: be a little bit more powerful, especially with how many 719 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: tabs they have open at all times. Having only eight 720 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: gigs of RAM just will not cut it. But I'm 721 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 3: certainly certainly hopeful that we'll be able to see small 722 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 3: improvements going forward. 723 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 4: Indeed, yeah, they had mentioned it as being a web 724 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 4: first device instead of anything else. 725 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 3: That makes sense. 726 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's like a Chromebook, and I think in 727 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: terms of like it's actual yeah, efficacy. 728 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: Very similar to a Chromebook, like operation. 729 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 2: Wise, But my hope is that like the kind of 730 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: technology they've developed, it will get you know, if it's successful, 731 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: they'll make more parers. Now I do kind of worry 732 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: about how successful it will be, because, like Garrison and 733 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: I were both like, oh, this is perfect for what 734 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: we do, but we have a very specific use case 735 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: for our machines. And I'm not sure like how many 736 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: other people are in our position. But I was really 737 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 2: impressed with just like how well it immediately worked. 738 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I I was happy with it. You can 739 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: hook up an external monitor if you if you want to, 740 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 3: So that's that's nice. 741 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 4: And I am a glasses wearer, and so one stuff 742 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 4: that they had for me is that they took my 743 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 4: glasses and approximated my prescription. 744 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 3: Oh that's cool. 745 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they slid on these magnetic sort of like 746 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 4: eyeglass pieces onto the headset that you're wearing, or like 747 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 4: the glasses that you're wearing. That way, I could actually 748 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 4: use it without wearing my prescription glasses. 749 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 3: Nice. 750 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was really It's stuff like that that 751 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: lets you know that people making something didn't just aren't 752 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: just like trying to rush some shit out the door 753 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 2: to make money, Like, Oh, you put some thought into that, motherfucker. 754 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And this all leads us the easily 755 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: the best product of the entire show. Honestly, the only 756 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: one really worth talking about, Garrison. Will you hand me 757 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 2: the flying car brochure? So Jesus Christ, this is the 758 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: Cees of flying cars. Robotaxis is the term we heard 759 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: a lot. We went to a panel that was like 760 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: serious people in the robotaxi industry, which they admitted does 761 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: not exist, by the way, Advance to air mobility, Advance 762 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: of air mobility. It was the acronym AAM. Yeah. No, 763 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 2: there are several companies that are using effectively like these are. 764 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 2: Some of them are like ultra lights. There was one 765 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 2: of the companies that came here bragged like you can 766 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 2: buy buy a plane that doesn't require a pilot's license 767 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 2: because it's so light, but it's still a plane, which 768 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: seems like a horrible idea to me. But there are 769 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: some real companies who are like testing out electronic aero taxis. 770 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 2: Some of these are this is not vaporware. These products exist. Now, 771 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 2: what doesn't exist is the legal framework to allow people 772 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 2: to do this. Like the panelists were like openly like, 773 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: we want this to be an industry, but first there 774 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: have to be it has to be legal right now, 775 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: we don't know, like they they're still trying to figure out, 776 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 2: like what the rules are going to be. They're hoping 777 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: by the end of this year the FAA puts out 778 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 2: like a temporary rule set about how robot air robo 779 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 2: taxes work and also how they called them verta ports, 780 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: which is because these are all vertical takeoff and landing craft. 781 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: At least the one that we saw on the show 782 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: floor looks like a looks like a Lamborghini with a 783 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 3: massive drone, like a. 784 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: DGI type round top. And that's that's the one I 785 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: want to talk about, because all of those were real products. 786 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: The exit paying the air road product, in my opinion, 787 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: is absolutely not. It's built as a low altitude air 788 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: mobility exploring. Yeah, it looks like a huge drone like 789 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: you'd buy a fucking best Buy attached to a Lamborghini. 790 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: And apparently the whole drone part, all of the rotors 791 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: fold back into the body when you're driving it as 792 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: a car. 793 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: Like a like a transformer, like a transformer. 794 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: And the reason why I say this is the best 795 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 2: product in cees is not that I think it would 796 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: work or be safe. Because we talked to the people 797 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: and the person who was told to us is their 798 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 2: technical expert, and neither of them could answer if it 799 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: had airbags. They did say probably. They did say probably. 800 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,959 Speaker 3: Which isn't what you want to hear. 801 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: No, that you should have that answer. 802 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 5: That's not a tough question, that's not a gotcha does 803 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 5: your car have airbags? 804 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 3: First, First, the PR guy that we were talking to 805 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 3: was very open about knowing almost nothing about the technical 806 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 3: aspects of this device. And then when we talked to 807 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: the technical person, they too didn't know very much about it, so, 808 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 3: which just isn't very reassuring. 809 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: Like and I even tried to do it the easy 810 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 2: way where I was like, well, I know ultra light 811 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: aircraft you don't need a pilot's license for so do 812 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 2: you need Does this qualify? And they were basically said, no, 813 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 2: we don't know, we don't know yet. Yeah, it'll take 814 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 2: some kind of license probably. What kind of range does 815 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 2: it get? They said twenty kilometers by. 816 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 3: Air about twenty minutes per. 817 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 2: Chart, Yeah, which seems like a dangerously short amount of 818 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 2: time to be flying you and a loved one potentially 819 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: in a thing it is. 820 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 3: It is pretty low altitude. I think they said it 821 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 3: maxes out at around one hundred meters. 822 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: One hundred No, they said one hundred meters. 823 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 3: Sorry, So it's really not for going up super high. 824 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 3: And I when we went to the more like expert panel, 825 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 3: a lot of these use cases for this, they imagine 826 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 3: is kind of replacing helicopters in cities. There's like metavac 827 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 3: use cases. But a lot of people were talking about 828 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 3: like testing these things out in New York where rich 829 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 3: people use helicopters to get around the city, and this 830 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 3: is what they want to replace them with. Because these 831 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 3: can be purely electric, these can be much more because 832 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 3: these can be much quieter. So that was what a 833 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 3: lot of what they were talking about. However, again most 834 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: of the panel was just them just complaining that the 835 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 3: government hasn't done enough work to make this a real industry. 836 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 2: Garrison, I got, you're not aware of this topic. You 837 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: just handed me the flyer we got from them that 838 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 2: I don't think either of us read through. Here's their story. 839 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 3: Oh oh boy. 840 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: Sale Beyond Limits twenty thirteen. Zoo Deli ignited Erot with 841 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 2: a daring dream to turn the enchanting broomsticks of Harry 842 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 2: Potter into tangible wonder. Oh no, a tribe of daring 843 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 2: mind set forth on the thrilling journey of crafting electric 844 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 2: marbles that could take humans to the skies through tireless exploration. 845 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 2: The first ever prototype, the flying motorcycle. Gracefully, this is 846 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 2: all a Harry Potter thing. Some madman from China fell 847 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 2: so in love with Harry Potter that he made a 848 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 2: death car. I'm back around to loving it again. 849 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 3: Average tech industry guy, brain poisoned by Harry Potter creates 850 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 3: death device. 851 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 4: I feel like this guy and the plant pet sky 852 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 4: are probably like pretty tight. 853 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: They're both the same kind of why is there somebody 854 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: apocaly ten based around Harry Potter? 855 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 3: What's going on in this industry? 856 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 2: And it is so the other brochure they had it 857 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: shows like the flying car, the modular flying car, which 858 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 2: looks like a cyber truck because if it had like 859 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 2: you know, you can get a truck, you can put 860 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: like a bed cap on the beds. It's basically like 861 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 2: a big it's like a cyber truck with one of those, 862 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: but the bed cap opens up to deploy like a 863 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: quad copter thing that human beings can ride in. 864 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 3: Kind of like sound wave in Transform, which. 865 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 2: Is like it's a cool idea from like a kid's 866 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 2: point of view. I think the idea here is that, 867 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 2: you know, John McAfee used to do this thing where 868 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: he would live in the desert with a cult of 869 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 2: weirdos and they would fly around on gliders until he 870 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 2: got his nephew and an old man killed in a 871 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 2: glider crash. This is this is the dream yeah, of 872 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 2: that Harry Potter fan. 873 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 3: I mean, I this The reason why I'm actually very 874 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 3: pro this product is because the only people that are 875 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 3: going to use these are really rich. Yes, yeah, I 876 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 3: think there's a high chance this could take out a 877 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,439 Speaker 3: lot of them. 878 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 2: This this has the best chance of dropping multiple billionaires 879 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 2: of anything since the Death's Up. 880 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 5: Like we comel from one hundred meters in the air, 881 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 5: just crashing out of the sky in Santa Monica and 882 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 5: san billionaires just taking out whole lanes of traffic. 883 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 3: Imaginers, I meagine you're walking through the park one day 884 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 3: and a billionaire comes flying down from the sky and 885 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 3: lands in like a two million dollar drone. 886 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 2: The prototype that they say they got to fly was 887 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 2: two tons. Wow, you could really do a lot of 888 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 2: damage with that. Well, this is this is all quite exciting. 889 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 2: Keep your eye on the sky, folks, Maybe wear a 890 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 2: helmet for a while until this all shakes out. Like 891 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: there's the story in the news right now that like 892 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 2: some dude in Portland had the fucking door of that 893 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: Alaska Airlines flight in his backyard. And I can't wait 894 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 2: until that's like a third to Elon Musk, just like 895 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: Lance in someone's yard. 896 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 3: Like two million dollars. 897 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. And by the way, if fucking a 898 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 2: billionaire's carcass winds up in my lawn, I got a 899 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 2: new punch bowl with their skull, I'm gonna harvest their pros. 900 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: We call the billionaires division the billionaire's dividend. Well, all right, everybody, 901 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 2: anyone Tapia, you have anything to plug? 902 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you can find me on Twitter or x 903 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 4: at cut Mora, or if you want to learn a 904 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 4: little bit more about me and my interactive and immersive work, 905 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 4: you can see my work at tabiamora dot com. 906 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 2: You can also see her work in my book A 907 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: Brief History of Ice, where she did all the illustrations, 908 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 2: or in my book After the Revolution where she did 909 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 2: all the illustrations, or in the sequel which will come 910 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 2: out when I finished those last two fucking chapters like 911 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 2: three years from now, huh or in Vegas, yeah tomorrow 912 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 2: to Laura. 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