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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast knows you can beat Brady

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Speaker 1: with pressure off the middle. That's true, That's true. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast and

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Speaker 1: you could beat him next week in fact, presented by

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Speaker 1: the United States Marine Corps. My name is Dan Hansus

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined in the room filled with heroes Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What is up is hey? Dan? Wow?

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Speaker 1: Fifty games in the can first UH year or first

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night rather all year that we're wait waited till

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Speaker 1: the final Sunday Night game of the season to talk podcast.

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Speaker 1: And what a game to wait for. Absolutely the Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks and San Francisco Forts. They went down to the

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Speaker 1: last play, well the second to last play and accompanying

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Speaker 1: video review after that play. It should have been reviewed,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't review. We're gonna get to all that, but

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Speaker 1: let's start right here. The playoffs are set. Here they

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Speaker 1: are wild Card weekend. The number five seeded Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: head to Houston to face the Texans. That's a four

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Speaker 1: thirty five start on ESPN slash ABC Eastern time. Of course,

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Speaker 1: also the late game. This number six Tennessee Titans at

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Speaker 1: That's an eight fift pm Eastern primetime game on CBS.

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Speaker 1: You know what that means, Greg, what Tony Romo and

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Speaker 1: Jim Nance means a lot of things. And then on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: so all a f C on Saturday, NFC on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: with Charles Davis, Joe, Troy Akman, Greig what's going on

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Speaker 1: in the late game? The number five Seattle Seahawks at

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Speaker 1: the number Philadelphia Eagles. That's a four forty pm Eastern

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Speaker 1: kickoff on NBC AL Chris and Michelle. Yes, playoff football

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Speaker 1: is ready after week seventeen and uh and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: be more excited. How about you guys? Oh yeah, West

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Speaker 1: of Its which you guys know, is the annual since

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Speaker 1: first weekend of the playoffs, the Festival of Slights Texas

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Speaker 1: have officially overtaken them. This is six times in nine years.

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Speaker 1: The Texas played in that sad early Saturday time slot.

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Speaker 1: All four times Bill O'Brien has made the playoffs, They've

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Speaker 1: stuck them in Texas, Texass Texas. It's the festival of slights.

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Speaker 1: You stick him that are only Saturday game. It's not

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Speaker 1: a showing of respect, not at all. But one of

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Speaker 1: those teams are gonna come out of that game with

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Speaker 1: a chance to win the Super Bowl. They'll be in

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Speaker 1: the Elite eight. As it were. We were wondering because

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Speaker 1: it's the pretty rare occurrence of two a f C

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Speaker 1: in so, I mean, everything is a mental hey is

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Speaker 1: at this point, it's fine. So we're gonna go through

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Speaker 1: all the games, and like Greg said, we're changing it

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football game last, but because the stakes were

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Speaker 1: we will start with Sunday Night Football, a huge game

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Speaker 1: Wilson back. Wilson throws called Hollisters hit over gold line

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Speaker 1: So that opens up Pandora's bucks. If you look at

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Speaker 1: And in forty Niners fans, all of you and my

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Speaker 1: or what about the Ben Garland Like, shut up, that's

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Speaker 1: not what we're talking about. We're talking about a failure

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Speaker 1: Santo the Athletic actually has one the NFL resting Al

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, but the moment was so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the most infamous moment in Seahawks franchise history

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Speaker 1: feels like they passed the test. Because green Law decleted

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Speaker 1: Hollister right at the goal line. But all that happened

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Speaker 1: which was also a mistake. Ultimately, you only have four

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Speaker 1: I could see them going out as soon as you know,

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Speaker 1: right me, me and either and yet you're you're so right.

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Speaker 1: Mark to point out after their scoreless at halftime, dominated

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Speaker 1: and they go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Jimmy G and his

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Speaker 1: as you Mark, and I guess Greg and I think

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Speaker 1: we're all on the same page. Can you kind of

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Speaker 1: fake your way to thirteen and three or at a

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Speaker 1: certain point that they just get they do a nice

432
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Speaker 1: job closing out games, and that that means they should

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Speaker 1: be taken seriously. I mean, it's just puzzling. They just

434
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: don't feel like a thirteen. But you know, you don't

435
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Speaker 1: take our next team, the Patriots, seriously at twelve and four.

436
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Speaker 1: And it is just about the eye test and a

437
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 1: lot of times the regular season I test doesn't carry over.

438
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Speaker 1: And and the Packers are one of four teams that

439
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Speaker 1: get next week off. That is pretty huge. That is huge.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on first down. First here, it

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Speaker 1: sucks down unbelievable four seconds left about Mike and Sicky

442
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: back to the end. Zoe running right down the middle

443
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 1: back to the end. Zo Fitzpatrick puts it right on

444
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: the money. Holy smokes. Oh indeed, indeed, Jimmy, Bob Greasy

445
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: and Joe Rose with the call Ryan Fitzpatrick more like

446
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: fits magic. Am I right, Greg through a five yard

447
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Mike Sicky seconds to play. The Dolphins

448
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: stunned the Patriots to twenty four when the Costs the

449
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: Paths the first round by for the first time in

450
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Speaker 1: a decade. Greg uh This was first of all, this

451
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: whole scenario was foretold by someone on Thursday Show, But

452
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: who cares about that. After years of taking advantage of

453
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Speaker 1: other teams late season stumbles, the Patriots stumbled himselves and

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Speaker 1: it has cost them dearly. They're playing next week, Yeah

455
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: they are. It reminds me of two thousand and fifteen

456
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: when they also lost in Week seventeen, lost home field

457
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Speaker 1: advantage also to the Dolphins, and that was a team

458
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: that felt like it was on their last legs, and offensively,

459
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: this team is certainly that way. The fact that Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady played his worst game today I think was the

461
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Speaker 1: most notable part of this result. The defense didn't play well.

462
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Speaker 1: They didn't force it turnover, you give up a big

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Speaker 1: drive at the end. Fitzpatrick was the best quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the division all year. He's better than Sam Donald, better

465
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Speaker 1: than Josh Allen. I think he was better than Tom

466
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Speaker 1: Brady when you consider this game. But Brady's missed throws

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Speaker 1: and seemingly the punishment that Bill Belichick was giving Brady

468
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: or the offense by not even trying to score at

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Speaker 1: the end of the what was going on using time outs.

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Speaker 1: I think it was his way of saying, we don't

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Speaker 1: want to give the Dolphins the ball back, we don't

472
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Speaker 1: really trust our offense. We're gonna run a lot. And

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Speaker 1: it was a very strange moment and a lack of

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Speaker 1: confidence in this offense. Would you can understand why there's

475
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Speaker 1: a lack of confidence, but it seemed like cutting off

476
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Speaker 1: his nose despite his face. Patriots desperately wanted this game.

477
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: We heard Belichick tell his players the playoffs start this week,

478
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Speaker 1: and they they played their hearts out and still lost.

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Speaker 1: And credit Ryan Fitzpatrick. I feel like this game was

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Speaker 1: the microcosm for a wild season, and this season was

481
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: the microcosm for a wild career. It just like everything

482
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: came to a head in this game. He was supposed

483
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Speaker 1: to be a tackling dummy. He was the old quarterback

484
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Speaker 1: that was being sent out to slaughter on what was

485
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Speaker 1: supposed to be the worst team of all time. And

486
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Speaker 1: week after week after week, he's been keeping this team

487
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Speaker 1: in games and winning games. And yeah, this was the microcosm.

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Speaker 1: This was the culmination of what yes at five and

489
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Speaker 1: eleven is not what the Dolphins wanted because they wanted

490
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: to get Joe Burrow wherever the quarterback finished five and four.

491
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Speaker 1: They beat two division winners in December, so the Patriots

492
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: weren't the only team that's gonna be hosting a game

493
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs and lost to the Dolphins. In December,

494
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: they beat the Eagles. I saw someone note on Twitter

495
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: that New England lost to the four best teams in ANFC,

496
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: with with Miami being being one of them at this point.

497
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: And you go back, you look at the journey for

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Speaker 1: this team. Week one losing fifty nine to ten, Week

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Speaker 1: two to the Patriots forty three to nothing, Week three,

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00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: thirty one of six, and they went on and on,

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00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: and it was like they looked like one of the

502
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: most disgraceful operations around, and I guess I would trade

503
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Speaker 1: in the whole first round pick thing for the concept

504
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: in the idea and the belief that you have a

505
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Speaker 1: really good coach. And Brian Flores, who did a lot

506
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Speaker 1: with a little. He could have left Josh Rosen in

507
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: for the season and said, hey, we we know we're building,

508
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: we know we're not playing for this year, and instead

509
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: he went. He tried to win games, he tried to

510
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: play good football, and they the last drive thirteen play

511
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: seventy five yards and that for all the struggles of

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the offense. And you know, the one

513
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Speaker 1: thing that Patriots have had all season is this defense.

514
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Speaker 1: And it hasn't been a It hasn't been as historically

515
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Speaker 1: dominant as it was in the first half when the

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Speaker 1: Pats were an oh and they finished twelve and four,

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00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: So even I could do them if they were five

518
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: hunder team in the second half and they couldn't get

519
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: the stop. And even even the great Stefan Gilmore who

520
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: um may win Defensive Player of the Year, Davante Parker,

521
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: he had his way with him. You're cackling in he

522
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: had a fourth quarter. This is the biggest moment of

523
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: bands decade, I would say since we've had the podcast,

524
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Speaker 1: except for that um Ryan Fitzpatrick when they won or

525
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: know what they lost in week seventeen, but they won

526
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: ten games that year. This was the right from It's

527
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: amazing because Fitzpatrick does this with no running game. I mean,

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00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: they have absolutely no rank game. I found it stunny.

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00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick ran the ball more this year on called

530
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Speaker 1: passes than any quarterback in the league, more than Lamar Jackson,

531
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: more than anyone else, and he was effective doing it.

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Speaker 1: And today it was a great example why the Patriots

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00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: had twenty nine hurries on Ryan Fitzpatrick. So many times

534
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: they got rushers a lot of times free rushers in

535
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: his face and he got out of the way of them.

536
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: A lot of what they've done defensively, especially the cover

537
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: zero where you're blitzing like crazy, just hasn't worked that

538
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: well in December, and they've made a living off a

539
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: turnover differential all year. They didn't force a turnover. They

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00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: ended up minus two. One of those was on the

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Speaker 1: last play of the game, but either even then they

542
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: were gonna be minus one. Today it was Tom Brady's

543
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: pick six on a weird throw and that was kind

544
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: of the difference. In the end, Brady like led them

545
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: back from Ted Nothing got the key touchdown. It was

546
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 1: a full team loss, but not a not one that

547
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: was undeserved. These looked like two very even. The craziest

548
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: statistic of the entire football season is that Ryan Fitzpatrick

549
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: is the oldest player in NFL history to lead his

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Speaker 1: team in rushing, and he had about two hundred and

551
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: forty something yards rushing. To your point that the Dolphins

552
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: cannot run the ball for his life all season and

553
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: he stay alive. And now factor in what he did

554
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: with the Bucks offense last September and tell me this

555
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: guy shouldn't be a starting quarterback in the NFL. He's

556
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Speaker 1: under contract with the Dolphins, a team that's gonna draft

557
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, draft a quarterback and presumably want him

558
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: to play immediately. I'm not ready to say goodbye to

559
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. He see you know one thing though before.

560
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too carried away, because he

561
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: always finds his way back into the starting lineup. I

562
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: just would rather him go compete somewhere. But I don't

563
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: know if teams are like that with him at this

564
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: point where they're going to say they'll bring in Fitzpatrick

565
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: for a chance to start. He might be better in

566
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Speaker 1: Miami and like a tutor role and end up getting

567
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: starts out. Would be surprising to see someone want to

568
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: trade for him, and there's no way that the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess someone would for the for a

570
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: really low price, but you would expect him to be competing.

571
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's with two of the Dolphins didn't even lose

572
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: any in their draft slot today by winning, so that

573
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: was another bonus. They stayed at the number five pick.

574
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Speaker 1: Obviously they're going home and the Patriots is the bigger

575
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: repercussion because this team, which was so limited all year,

576
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: really needed that by I think more than any other team.

577
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: And I kind of thought when they beat the Bills,

578
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: maybe that's their moment and their next big game is

579
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: gonna be against Kansas City, which was gonna be a

580
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: big time uphill battle. Now there, if they try to

581
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: make it to the Super Bowl, you're gonna have to

582
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: win a very tough wild guard games. You're gonna write

583
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to win on the road in Kansas City.

584
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: That seems like a death sentence even for a team

585
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: as resourceful as the Page to win the first game.

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00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: The sense of justice is that the a f C

587
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: is correctly seated the Patriots. I don't care about the record.

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00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: They are not the one of the two best teams

589
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: in the level. I I agree, and it I feel

590
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: like as a Patriots fan, a you're it's really hard.

591
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: You can't come. It's hard to complain when you've just

592
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: watched the greatest run and they're still in it that

593
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: any American you know, professional sports team has ever been

594
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Speaker 1: on what you're gonna wind because you've got a three seed?

595
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: I really, I really do see I'm saying in our

596
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: in our lifetime, in our lifetime, and to me in

597
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL, it's such a unique thing to do

598
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: it over twenty years, nothing's been close to that. But

599
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: the fact that they've managed to scrape out twelve wins

600
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: with a pretty bad team like that, somehow winning is

601
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: such in their bones that they still managed to have

602
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: a twelve win season, which four about twenty franchises in

603
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: the league would be the best year they've had in

604
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: a decade, is almost to be a testament to how

605
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: good they are. It doesn't make this team any better, though,

606
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: they would have been ten and six with a tougher

607
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: rec Greg's and denial. But he has a really good

608
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: attitude on the surface. You are not you. You have

609
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: a positive outlook on the surface. Not everyone is feeling

610
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: as positive on the surface or beneath it. Here's Ricky

611
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: Hollywood right after the game, Patriots stink. I can't believe

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00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: how old are you? Er uh, you're allowed and you've

613
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: known nothing, You've known nothing but glory. And after a

614
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: season ends twelve and four. Look at the Chiefs fan

615
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: right next to your Bartlett two twelve and four, you're

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00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: saying the Patriots stink. How about you eat some humble pie? Lady,

617
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: What do you mean, just you know, take the loss

618
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: like a woman. I got a text from my dad.

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Speaker 1: You just not wait until like Adam Gates or the

620
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Jets have like one ten one season so we can

621
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: get back at the end one of day. How is

622
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: a woman supposed to take a lost person today? And

623
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: did you see that stat a f C E standing

624
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: since week nine, Patriots are in last place, heading in

625
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: the road where the Browns? What about your Rams West?

626
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: What about Broncos? Hit me, I'm not walking around celebrating

627
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: the Browns. Where's your head coach? Mark? All right? Oh

628
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: my good to get to that spoiler alert. Uh and

629
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Speaker 1: you know, since we're here, I'm curious how Scott Zolak

630
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: is taking that. It's magic touchdown. So let's let's let's

631
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: check that out. What a great day? This is? Sick

632
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: you to the right this istation stuff. He's looking to

633
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: the middle. He talking to the back of the end zone.

634
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: Cap by get sick. What a troge down in Miami.

635
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: Twenty four seconds to go and the Dolphins have taken

636
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: the leave. What an unbelievable drive by Miami. Credit Chado

637
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Sha and Ryan Fitzpatrick more poorly divine day Parker, phenomenal

638
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: playmaker down the right side, you get it, calling on

639
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: a big twenty nine yard the past receiving tight end

640
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: with the big touchdown catch to take the lead late.

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00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: What are you measured? Professional? But sure? That's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: so annoyed that I didn't listen to this before we

643
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: played its sportsman he is growth. I don't know if

644
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: maybe he's hurting right now. He was hissing at me.

645
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm saying maybe Zolac is in the same place

646
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: watching this game, and it's like, I don't know, there

647
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: is a piece to it. If if if they don't

648
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: if they're not a good team, they're not a good team.

649
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't think you and Zolak have ever been in

650
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: the same place watching it. I thought the same thing

651
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: Greg's saying, or a similar thought that Zolac you give

652
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: I give him, We give him a lot of heat.

653
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: But he's plugged in, he knows that team. That sounds

654
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: like a guy that understands that this team isn't a

655
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: great team. And I think one of the most jarring

656
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: newsroom proclamations I've ever heard out of Greg's mouth mouth

657
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: was that no matter what this Patriots team does, they'll

658
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: always have Week sixteen against the Bills the season was making.

659
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: I thought that was their moment. It was a nice man.

660
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: That is so depressing. The are a lot of things. Yeah,

661
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, psychologically, Greg is going through some stuff. So

662
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure Brady's gonna put that Week sixteen win on

663
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: his mantel next to the Lombardi and we get one

664
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: more loss the season. Oh it's coming, you know it's coming, Greggy,

665
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: No parade this year. Let's move on to one four

666
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: deal kick taking three archdep in the n jone left

667
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: shod return pay back. He's got some room at the

668
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: stage on his feet cuts it back. Mcconel Hartmann five

669
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: touchdown Kansas City one hundred and four yard kickoff return

670
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: by the Pro Bowl return Specialists. But Cole Hardman Mitch

671
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: halt Is Kate see f X with the call. Mitch

672
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: does a good job. Nice class stop glass we call

673
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: Harvny gave the Chiefs a massive boost when they needed

674
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: it most, right after a Charger's go ahead touchdown got

675
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: the people on Arrowhead nervous. A hundred and four yards later,

676
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: Kansas City's ahead to get a harder over the Chargers.

677
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: Suit of their credits showed up here, but it wasn't

678
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: enough with the game in hand. Uh. The Arrowhead crowd

679
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: went into a frenzy when they learned that Ryan Fitzpatrick

680
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins that shocked the Patriots, allowing Casey Now

681
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: to grab that number two seed. Friend of the show,

682
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: Kevin Harland, by the way, painted the picture calling two

683
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: games at once and his latest master work. Do we

684
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: have that? Meanwhile, Miami has first in Gold down by

685
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: four seconds left. Here Bucker kicks the extra point and

686
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: Ricks tat Ricks throws in the end zone touchdown Miami

687
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins have just scored. Kisiki the tight end

688
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: got a laser in the back of the end zone

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00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: by Miami quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick to take a lead with

690
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: twenty four seconds to go, and mcrown now knows it.

691
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: What a strong guy fitz Patrick. What a touchdown run

692
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Speaker 1: by Williams. On the last weekend of the regular season

693
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. If the Chiefs when and New England loses,

694
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: the Chiefs will be the two seed, they'll get the

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Speaker 1: bill and they'll have a home game the next weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting confused. What game are you calling? I'm calling

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00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: both games. CPS is going to send your two chests

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00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: this week. I think I'm breaking every yet. CC rook.

699
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: Kevin Harland, friend of the show, and remember when he

700
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: was on our show. It was after his famous black

701
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: Cat call where he was calling a Evan Ingram completion

702
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: at the same time that the cat was running. There's

703
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: nobody else in the business and I can do with

704
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Speaker 1: Kevin Harland. And it's impossible to know how hard it

705
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: is to even call what you're watching with your eyes

706
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: down on the field in front of you, much less

707
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: double dift the way he did. And there's no other

708
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: play by play guy that ever, the course of every

709
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: football season has four or five of like intense signature moments.

710
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: You see his his voice, chriscend does with that. That

711
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: guy is both games. Uh. It was an interesting game

712
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: because it was while the drama was unfolding in Miami,

713
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: the Chargers are hanging around in the Chiefs. This was

714
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: hardly um their best game. Uh offensively, in fact, they

715
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: managed just three thirty six yards of offense. They were

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00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: out gained by the Chargers just barely. They ran only

717
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: forty eight plays to seventy four by the Chargers, but

718
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: two huge plays. You heard the McColl hardman kickoff return

719
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: that gave them the lead back after they had fallen

720
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: behind early in the third quarter following a Patrick Mahomes interception,

721
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: and then on the next drive, Patrick Mahomes takes the

722
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: ball sticks in and Damian Williams gut and he goes

723
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: eighty four yards, breaking a tackle and then taking off

724
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: down the near sideline for a touchdown. And I thought

725
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: it was just kind of like symbolic and showed once

726
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: again why I liked this Chiefs team's chances next month

727
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: that that sequence, the kick off returned by Hardman, the

728
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: run by Williams it wasn't Patrick Mahomes, and then the

729
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: defense getting the job done closing out the game. This

730
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: is not a one dimensional team and that's why armed

731
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: with a buy and a home game that gets them

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00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: to at least the a f C title game, perhaps

733
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Speaker 1: they even get home field of the Ravens, stumble uh

734
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: that this uh team has a real shot. Well, sometimes

735
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: you need some luck to break what's been an unbelievably

736
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: unlucky and unsuccessful playoff history that the Chiefs have had

737
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: the last what four decades now, and they are so

738
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: close right now to setting up what I think would

739
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: be the bet like just on paper, the most exciting

740
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: a f C title game matchup, like in memory, if

741
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: you get Lamar twenty, you know, a second year m

742
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: v P versus Mahomes, a third year quarterback who's also

743
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: the m v P. Like, I can't think of another

744
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: title game that would have more hype ahead of it.

745
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: Maybe five Saints in oh nine when he was with

746
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: the Vikings kind of reminds me of that and this

747
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: Chief's team, Like you said at the end, like the

748
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: way if they can win games like this where when

749
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: the offense isn't at their best, like I at least

750
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get to that game. And as a

751
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: football fan, I don't know, I think that would be exciting.

752
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: I think another thing is a football fan. If you

753
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: look at the history of the draft and the linking

754
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: between Eli Manning and Philip Rivers, that Philip Rivers after

755
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: this game, was asked basically about his future in Los

756
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: Angeles and said, you know, this may not happen, but

757
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: we'll find out. Yeah, well, let's hear what Rivers had

758
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: to say. You could say, I think it's that I

759
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: can I can say I gave it up everything I had.

760
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean every week, you know, so you know, and

761
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: and maybe it means an interception on fourth and eighteen

762
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: when you're down town, because I don't care, uh that

763
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna say two interceptions, you know, I really don't.

764
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: It's just like I ain't quitting, So I think that.

765
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: I think I think that that um doing it with

766
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: so many guys over you know, fourteen years and going

767
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: to the locker room win or losing. I can say

768
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: that we're sure we felt we felt short but or

769
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: we won you know, uh, but shoot, I couldn't try

770
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: it any harder. So I think two different kind of

771
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: elements there. But I think that's the two things that

772
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: come to my mind. Does that sound to you, Greg

773
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: like a guy who knows, uh a chapter in his

774
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: book is closing here expecting it at least. I don't

775
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: know if anyone there totally knows what like who's going

776
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: to be there and who's not. But I think he's

777
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: reading the tea leaves that this coaching staff might not

778
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: be a huge fan. And he did say if some

779
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: other team will have me, I'll be starting game, you know,

780
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: number two fifteen in a row in the week one

781
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: next year. So as he says, as long as one

782
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: of the thirty two teams sees me as a start,

783
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: I think someone I think someone would have I was

784
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: just gonna mention that it's wild that we could see

785
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: the end of Rivers in with the Chargers and Eli

786
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: Manning in the Giants after the way that traft Day

787
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: thing went down on the same day, many many men

788
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 1: later in the same day, just because at this point

789
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: with his injury, that what you we've heard no lock

790
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: that we'll see him again. I never heard that Rivers

791
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: to the Colts connection until brand Damn brought it up

792
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: last week. But now I'm seeing it all over the place.

793
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: I hope that has influencer. Oh yeah, that's the way

794
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: I look at it. But I do think he could

795
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: have good football and he's a guy you root for

796
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: and you want to see him have and maybe a

797
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: Montana final act where he goes to a team and

798
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: it's fun and he has one more shot at it. It

799
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: It would stink if he somehow landed with a team

800
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: that you know, you know, pick a team that that

801
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: was not a contender, or in Carolina, Panther just fades, yeah,

802
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: into oblivion. We don't need a Panther's type team. Let's

803
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: hope he lands on his feet somewhere and maybe it's

804
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: still in the charges. You never know. One thing with

805
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they Wan Thornhill, who was a safety on

806
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: my All Rookie team, had a knee injury today and

807
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: rap Sheet reported that they think he's gonna miss the

808
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: playoffs with the injury. That's big. Um. All right, let

809
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: us move on now and check in on the NFC

810
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: East see how that all sorted out. Jones calling to

811
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: the football, he fumbles it, he is hit the Flotballttle

812
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: funckle the Eagles afterward and it is picked up a

813
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: Tims recovered not talk the one by Fletcher Cox. Flincher

814
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: Cox then about the one yard one as Daniel Jones

815
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: lost the football for the eleventh time this season too

816
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: many times. Merrill Reese w I P with the callei

817
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: vertil from Merril Reese because the Eagles keep winning. Fletcher

818
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: Cox scooped up Daniel Jones bumble. They put the Eagles

819
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: in control and Boston Scott who Boston Scott had three

820
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: touchdowns and well over a hundred yards from scrimmage and

821
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: place something injured Miles Sanders as the injury ravaged Eagles

822
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: beat the Giants thirty four to seventeen. The win, of course,

823
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: clinches the NFC East title UH four the Eagles, who

824
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: were in the playoffs for the third straight year. It

825
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: was a four and oh close to the season for

826
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and head coach Doug Pederson, who deserves to me

827
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year consideration. John Harboll probably get it,

828
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: but what he was able to ring out of a

829
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: roster that's been decimated by injuries week after week after week,

830
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: and it happened again today with Sanders going out, also

831
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz not playing in this game. Guard Brandon Brooks

832
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: goes out with a shoulder, Sanders had an ankle, and

833
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: they just kept finding ways to make it worth I

834
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: at work, I think it's a combination of Carson Wentz,

835
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: a great young quarterback, kind of uh taking his game

836
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: to the next level, which is what truly great quarterbacks do,

837
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: and a coach who knew how to make the most

838
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: of a roster when it got the crunch time. Chris

839
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: Wesley and I think an Eaguals team that's a veteran

840
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: team with playoff experience, knowing that there was a sense

841
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: of urgency maximizing its roster, you know, and basically whatever

842
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: talent they had left that was healthy scratching its way

843
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: into the postseason by hook or by crook. In juxtaposition

844
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys who underperformed and let the season slip away. Yeah,

845
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: I feel like there were different type of Coach of

846
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: the year arguments. There is the John Harbaugh, who I mean,

847
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: Kerson wouldn't be in the top and he wouldn't, But

848
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: I would say this that like what they he had

849
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: guys on the practice squad, like I get it. Also

850
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: under they underachieved for half a season, and they went

851
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: nine and seven and they beat the Giants, Redskins. You know,

852
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: at the end of the stock is absolutely but they

853
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: were one of the most disappointing teams for half of

854
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: this They also right, and they did an unbelievable job

855
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: getting it all together. Don't get me wrong, but their

856
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: defense for the most part has been healthy. They've been

857
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: a very up and down team that got it together,

858
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: beat the Giants a couple of times, beat the reds

859
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: because they were all close games went was been unbelievable.

860
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they have been resourceful and it's nice to

861
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: see a team that kind of has the d n

862
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: A of playing well late in the season, no matter

863
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: how that they got to that point, especially after that

864
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: Giants game, it felt like, hey, we act, we got here,

865
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: let's go win and who knows. I mean, they are

866
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: not pretty doing it like they This game was in

867
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: question for vast amounts of time. This is my lock

868
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: and I thought this was the dumbest decision I made

869
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: all year. Here's the stat that purpose that perfectly encapsulate

870
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: what it means to be a franchise quarterback. So Whence

871
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: became the first player today in NFL history to throw

872
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: for four thousand yards in a season without a five

873
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: hundred yard wide receiver, uh, which just tells you a

874
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: couple of things. Tells you the injuries that hit this

875
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver group. They lost what their top three wide

876
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 1: receivers uh, and Wentz staying healthy and continuing to find

877
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 1: ways to make it work, especially in these last four games.

878
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: Because yes, you can't completely divorce the first three the

879
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: first three quarters of the season from the final quarter.

880
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: But you know this is money time. We we joked

881
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: about it, the season starts after Thanksgiving and but it's

882
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of true. And and now here we are in

883
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: January and Eagles, I know they're probably not a super

884
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: Bowl team, but they're one of the teams I look

885
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: forward to most watching play because I'm wondering if this

886
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: is a Cinderella situation, uh, in a different script from

887
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: the one that led to their Super Bowl win. But again,

888
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: is this a team to to completely count out? Uh? Anyway,

889
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. We'll see who's healthy next week.

890
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: That'll be a big factor. Miles Sanders Brooks I mean

891
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: those zach ERTs. Those are players that they are gonna

892
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: be hoping that are available, and uh, you know if

893
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: they're not. If nothing else, they're the class of the

894
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: NFC East. I think that feels good that you got

895
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: uh Cowboys to get rid of their coach. Probably by

896
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: the time people listen to this, we don't know this,

897
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: but it will happen. Like the Giants, that could be

898
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: the same too. The Redskins, they're changing, like the rest

899
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: of the division is a mess. And even with all

900
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: these injuries, the Eagles end up on I would say

901
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: plenty of Eagles fans would rather the Jason Garrett stay

902
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: in Dallas too. So I'm glad you introduced that by

903
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: saying Carson Wentz is a franchise quarterback, because every quarterback

904
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: in the NFL goes through ups and downs. And we've

905
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: had fans reach out to us on Twitter and say,

906
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: when are you gonna take Carson Wentz to task for

907
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: not being a franchise quarterback. Look, we've seen him play

908
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 1: at an m v P level. We saw him raise

909
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: this team. Next time he goes through a slump, we

910
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: don't have to have and is this guy a franchise

911
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: quarterback discussion because he's already proven it. I think part

912
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: of it was even Eagles fans being a little salty

913
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: about because Folds is the one that closed up the

914
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: last two scenes, which makes this run, even if it

915
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: ends next week, all the more meaningful that this was

916
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: something Wentz can put his signature on. Alright, so let

917
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: us now move on. You know the Dallas Cowboys, they

918
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: were hoping to steal the division at eight and eight.

919
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Let's check in on that game. Snap

920
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: out of the gun on third down, they block it

921
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: up over the middle. Cat first down, Gallop kept his

922
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: feet twenty five up sideline tub five dancing in. Gallup

923
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: walks the dog. Touchdown, Cowboys, What an athletic play. Hen

924
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: Gallup takes it into the end zone for the second time,

925
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: his second touchdown of the game. Brad Sham the sham God,

926
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: Oh crime spree, drop the pen. This is what it

927
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: is more forgett crime spring as the natives. No, No,

928
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: it's to me. It's a decades old cop trauma like

929
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: San Francisco streets, Bring us the Girl, It comes cons

930
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: through the trees. That movie is not getting made in

931
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty night Now it's not nat I mean natives. We

932
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: can't say natives anymore. Well you have so bring the girl.

933
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes that still feels off killed. That's natural. There were sacrifices.

934
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: That was a thing. Don't try to erase history, Greg,

935
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 1: I you you were answering a question. I didn't ask.

936
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know what you're talking about, but I'd like

937
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: to know what's in your head. I'm not I know

938
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: I was. I was talking about the cong of it.

939
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't even you went. You took in another direction,

940
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: but it was nice. As the kids say a cell phone.

941
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about. All right,

942
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: here we go. Dak Press got through four touchdown passes

943
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: Sex for two thousand nineteen breakout wide up Michael gallop Steen.

944
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys win a win that meant nothing when the Eagles

945
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: beat the Giants West. This game will further burnish all

946
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: those impressive d v o A analytics for all those

947
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: Cowboy heads out there. But like this game and ultimately

948
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: means nothing. Eight and eight Mark and all covering this game.

949
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: But I did see a Troy Eigman quote where he

950
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: basically said the Cowboys are talented enough to be to

951
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: beat any team in the league, and fans out there

952
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: will say, well, any team can say that they can't

953
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: any team cannot say that they're not talented. The Cowboys

954
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: had the talent to beat any team. They also can

955
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: play as poorly as any team and lose to any team.

956
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: And that's been their season all year long. Yeah, this

957
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: was the anti uh Chiefs, Dolphins Patriots Kevin Harland moment

958
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: because as Dallas was romping over the Redskins, you know,

959
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, you could see that the Eagles

960
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: were pulling away and that this win was utterly meaningless

961
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: and to your in West before about just their talent

962
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: and how disappointing their season has been. They're different to

963
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: me than the Eagles because this game showed flashes of

964
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: total dominance from Michael Gallup. I thought Zeke Elliott ran really,

965
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: really well. Dak Prescott had a couple of amazing throws

966
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: and one gallop where he broke away from a Redskins defender,

967
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: ran into another one and stiffed arm the guide to

968
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: the ground, and you just went and when they're like

969
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 1: the against a couple weeks against the Rams, when they

970
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: explode and blow up and do what they can do

971
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: your look at it, you're looking at a playoff team.

972
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: This I would have taken Dallas at their peak as

973
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: the NFC S team that could have won a playoff game.

974
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way about the Eagles the same way.

975
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: I just think they're ceiling is different. But the Cowboys

976
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: are so wacky that they're perfectly what you would consider

977
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: an eight and eight team. One week this, one week

978
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: this things are because things are well, They're kind of

979
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: an unusual eight and nate and that most eight and

980
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: eight teams are just kind of mediocre middle link teams

981
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: that win one, lose one, win to lose to. This

982
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: team showed an elite ceiling and then a floor that

983
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: was just like gross finished this season with a plus

984
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: nineties seven point differential, which is what you would expect

985
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: out of a twelve and four type of team, eleven

986
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: and five type of teams. I do wonder just because

987
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: sometimes the how the season ends has an emotional impact,

988
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: especially on such an emotional decision maker like Jerry Jones.

989
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: If Michael gallups big finish will have and Amari Cooper's

990
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: disappointing finish on balance will have any impact on Amari

991
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: Cooper's quest to become, you know, the highest paid wide

992
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: receiver in the league. Because all of this Dak Prescott

993
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: messing around with his contract I don't think has been

994
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: a huge deal because it's not like Dack's going anywhere.

995
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: But if you don't get the deal done now and

996
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: DA's got all the leverage in February, you can only

997
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: franchise one of them. And if you can only franchise

998
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: one of them, Amari Cooper is probably playing elsewhere this year.

999
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the Cowboys won't mind that. I don't. You

1000
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: can use the transition tag too, we'll see, I mean, yes,

1001
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: you get an extra tag this year. That and we

1002
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: will you know, will hold off in the Jason Garrett

1003
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: job security talk for the most part because tomorrow show

1004
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: we'll have a special Monday edition of the podcast Black

1005
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Monday Now excuse me, New Horizons podcast coming up tomorrow,

1006
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: and we'll dig in on the fate of Jason Garrett,

1007
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: which seems sealed but as of right now he's still employed.

1008
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: Uh well, he's not under contract in it now, he contracted.

1009
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: Jerry doesn't even have to fire his favorite employee ever.

1010
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh move back to the a f C.

1011
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: There was a team that plays in Nashville that had

1012
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: a chance to do two things, to go nine and

1013
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: seven again but also make the playoffs. Did they get

1014
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: it done? During the late game tonight, as Henry gets

1015
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: the carry, he's to the fifty, tot to the forty,

1016
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: to the thirty, to the twenty, to the ten, to

1017
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: the five, to the end. So Henry to the house

1018
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: fifty three yards textdown Titans. He's over two hundred, he's

1019
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: over fift hundred, and he is the baddest mate in

1020
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: NRG Stadium today. Yes, my w g f X, Yes,

1021
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: you are a bad man. NFL rushing champion Derrick Henry

1022
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: ran for Season I two eleven yards and three touchdowns.

1023
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: I guess that hamstrings. Okay. The Titans beat up on

1024
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: the Texans reservesteen is the final, the Texans, of course,

1025
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: resting many key players ahead of next week's playoff matchup

1026
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: with the Bills. The wind clinched a wild card spot

1027
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: for the eternally nine and seven Titans. Titans, uh, and

1028
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: here's the difference nine and seven was it was a

1029
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: bit of a scarlet letter for this team. But this

1030
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: team is different right west, This team feels dangerous oh

1031
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: that is true. And this team, this game, you know,

1032
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: let's call it what it was. The Texans sat stick

1033
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: six starters and benched others throughout the game as the

1034
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: media carried water all week for for a coach who

1035
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: was going to perpetuate half truth as a pep talk

1036
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: for his team, and the media just let him do it,

1037
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: like they were like, he was really gonna play affs.

1038
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: Who didn't let him do it though, Chris Wesley, they

1039
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 1: really didn't. In Houston. They even as early as like Thursday,

1040
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: they said, well, they'll probably sit there, don't take down

1041
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: West's We bought it. A very a very solid national

1042
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: reporter was out at the forefront of the saying he's

1043
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: gonna play all his players, and you know, said national

1044
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: reporters should have seen through it. You know, no, no, no,

1045
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: he does not work. He works three ESPN and he's

1046
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: away anyway. This was the game of the triplets. Ryan Tannehill,

1047
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: to my mind, who has come back player of the

1048
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: year locked up a J Brown who has I think

1049
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: beaten Josh Jacobs by a nose at the finish line

1050
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: by averaging a hundred eleven yards in a touchdown over

1051
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: the last six weeks and Derrick Henry, the NFL's rushing

1052
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: leader who went over two hundred yards on a fifty

1053
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: three yard touchdown to seal this game. And at that

1054
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: point it was the Texans subs in the game. So

1055
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: we'll take from it what you will. My thing on

1056
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: the on the Titans, they are scary for the Patriots,

1057
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 1: very scary because of this offense, this averaging thirty points

1058
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: a game with Tannehill in ten games, uh and Tanney

1059
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: will Tannehill a note first quarterback in thirty years since

1060
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: Joe Montana to complete seventy of his passes at nine

1061
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: yards an attempt. Just a great hyper efficient showing of

1062
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: him this year. This team has defense issues and they

1063
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: allowed A J. Mccaren to go down the field on

1064
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: the opening drive of the game, and they allowed him

1065
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: to go down the field on the opening drive of

1066
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: the second half. AJ mccaren is not good and he

1067
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: held the ball too long in the pocket. That should

1068
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 1: not be allowed to happen. The Titans have cornerback issues,

1069
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: they have pass rush issues, and they have kicker issues. Yeah,

1070
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: it's not a great defense. So I think the Patriots,

1071
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: you know, think, okay, this is you know a defense

1072
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: that made the playoffs that we can actually score on.

1073
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: But the Titans offense is so explosive. They've are they

1074
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: I know it's a long time ago, but they beat

1075
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: the dry I'm out of the Patriots a year ago.

1076
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: And I just think when you look at the whole

1077
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: playoff field, like if I was power ranking, uh wait,

1078
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,959
Speaker 1: a second playoff field. I think the Titans are better

1079
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: than the Bills. I think they're better than the Texans.

1080
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: I think they're better than the Seahawks. I think they're

1081
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: better than the Eagles, and they're probably better than the Patriots.

1082
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: And if it's a neutral field, I would say they're

1083
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: better than the Patriots. Like, I think the Titans have

1084
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: that sort of upside. So this is not a normal

1085
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: nine and seven sneak into the wild card type. I

1086
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: can definitely see a scenario where Bill Belichick closes this

1087
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: season having lost to two former employees. I imagine the

1088
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: Desert will be feeling the Patriots win this game. But

1089
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would be shocked. And you know,

1090
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: we'll get into this later, but I don't think anybody

1091
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: will be shocked if the Titans advanced beyond the first round,

1092
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: just because they're so explosive and and we just saw

1093
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: what happened with the Patriots of course getting beat on

1094
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: a final drive. That defense is not invincible anymore. That

1095
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: that is that is not only the Patriots fall out

1096
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: of the bye, they to get a hillacious first round

1097
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: track here, right. I think it's because there's nothing you

1098
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: can do to coach up against. To me, A J.

1099
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: Brown's physical dominance and John who Smith is athleticism and

1100
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: Tannehill is playing so great. It's definitely they have weaknesses,

1101
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: certainly on defense, but it's a pretty complete team. It's very,

1102
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: very different than the other nine and seven Titans teams.

1103
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: And you can look at it just by how they've scored,

1104
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: how they've played with Tannehill and their point the frenchial

1105
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: on the year. I mean, they don't have the profile

1106
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: of a nine and seven. I understand people who haven't

1107
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: watched the Titans on a weekly basis would be skeptical

1108
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: of Tannehill has maybe a one year wonder. But this

1109
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: guy is playing quarterback how we want it to be played.

1110
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: He is aggressive downfield, he is pulling the trigger on

1111
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: tight window throws. He has the athleticism to escape pressure

1112
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: and make plays out of the pocket. This is how

1113
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: we want swash buck swashbuckling quarterbacks to play football. I

1114
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: think it's probably people just can't get past what Tannehill

1115
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: was for so long in Miami and that's completely changed.

1116
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: And this team may have found a quarterback for as

1117
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: a long term answer. And this game coming up, and

1118
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: we've laughed at the Titans endlessly on the show, is

1119
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: one of the biggest games in franchise history. I mean,

1120
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: this could alter everything. You The current perception of the

1121
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: Titans for people aren't watching them weekly, would totally changed

1122
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: that they're going into England. We are mistaken. Left at

1123
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: the Titoons. This is not that team. That's fine, But

1124
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: even when they were, even when they were, yeah, even

1125
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: when they won a playoff game they've knocked off the Chiefs,

1126
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: it didn't stick, right, it didn't stick. You do wonder

1127
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: about the priority a little bit having Derrick Henry in there.

1128
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Obviously didn't get tackled on that run because they want

1129
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: to get him the rushing record. He had thirty two carries.

1130
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: That the history of guys coming off of, you know,

1131
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: games where you have more than thirty carries the next

1132
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: week is pretty dramatic in terms of a decline, and

1133
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: they had him out there because they wanted the rushing

1134
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: yards he wasn't taken. He was dishing out more hits

1135
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: than he was taken in that second half. Al Right,

1136
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh entered a week seventeen hoping to find a way

1137
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. That didn't happen. They didn't find a

1138
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: way to win to close the season. That's a problem

1139
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: as well. Offensively, we'll have a chance to put it away.

1140
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: Barry from his five drops to snap, turns around his

1141
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: draw ball comes loose in the end zone. The Ravens

1142
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: recover touched down. The Ravens coming up with the ball

1143
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: is Brendan Trawick and falling on it in the end

1144
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: zone was Jordan Richards six. The play in the ball game,

1145
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: the hayze in the barn. I was waiting, now, what

1146
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: are you doing? I was trying to see you scored

1147
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: the touchdown. It sounds like Jerry Sandusky and Dennis Pitta

1148
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: of w b a L are so used to winning

1149
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: that it's just like it just seems tired. Didn't even

1150
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: need to put the hay in the barn, not not

1151
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: even take it outside. Not a lot of barns in Baltimore,

1152
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: by the way, just throwing it out there, but um,

1153
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: it gets it gets far me really quick though outside

1154
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: but not in the not in the city limits of Baltimore,

1155
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: or they're not not many. It's wire season six, it's

1156
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: on the farm. It would have been better than the

1157
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: way they ended it. A little wire talk for the

1158
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: wire button, please. The Ravens rested their starters against the

1159
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: Steelers team playing for the post season. It didn't matter Baltimore.

1160
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: Baltimore's defense shut down Pittsburgh the final Ravens finished a

1161
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: regular season a franchise record best fourteen and two. Up

1162
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: next to buy and prep for the divisional round. Greg,

1163
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure John Harbor relish beating the rival Steelers in

1164
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: this fashion. He loved it. They were throwing bombs up

1165
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: with r G three on first down. Uh, they're going

1166
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: for a fake punt on their own eleven yard line,

1167
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: down up nine points in the fourth quarter, and they

1168
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: converted it. I loved it. Uh. It was a very risky.

1169
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: Why did they do that? They were up nine, it

1170
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: was fourth and one from their own eleven. They had it.

1171
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: They probably it's one of those automatic checks where they

1172
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: saw they just hiked it right to the guy who

1173
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: ran for it. It It kept the ball. That's my coach

1174
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 1: of the year. That I mean, that is the coach

1175
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: of the year stuff. And he said after the game

1176
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: how much the rushing title meant to them? The rushing

1177
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: record they broke a record that's been there since nineteen

1178
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: seventy eight. I know, people say, okay, a lot of

1179
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: inflated numbers in todays NFL. Just the fact that they

1180
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: played sixteen games and those teams only played well one

1181
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: of them. They almost I think they came in second

1182
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: for yards per game and it was very close West

1183
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: So actually the team, the team the seventy eight Patriots,

1184
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: they had played sixteen games too. Patriots today. Yes, you know,

1185
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: it's sorry to uh what is his name? How many

1186
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: people even knew they had that record? Sam the Cunningham

1187
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: Sam Bam Cunningham back in I think they made the playoffs.

1188
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: They Ravens are a defensive team and they did rest

1189
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: a lot of key guys, but the secondary was almost

1190
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: all in there except for Earl Thomas, their pass rusher

1191
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: was in there, and it was it was a treat

1192
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: to watch them just destroy Duck Hodges nine nine. I

1193
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I just like dominance. They're the best team

1194
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: I've ever seen since I've been covering football. The Emino

1195
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: seven pay Striots would be the two. But they've closed

1196
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: the season much stronger than the OH seven page. But

1197
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: when you say that r G three was unfurling bombs,

1198
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: he had nine yards on this house, so he wasn't

1199
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: completely unfailing in completion up to ten deep down the field.

1200
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: Just like you could tell they were trying to rub

1201
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: it in. The Steelers deflated as a team when they

1202
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: realized Duck didn't have it in the Bills game. And

1203
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: I commend Greg for having his finger on the pulse

1204
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: of both of these teams. Going into this game. You

1205
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: said the Ravens backups would take it to the Steelers,

1206
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: and they did. And I don't think that you meant

1207
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: the Steelers defense has been bad all year, just that

1208
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: going into this game there they have been broken by

1209
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks, right, and the and the Ravens running game.

1210
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: You know, Gus Edwards a hundred and thirty yards, r

1211
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: G three gets fifty on the ground. What a great

1212
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,479
Speaker 1: sign without just sitting there, d I just think they're

1213
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: the system is so good that they're tough to stop.

1214
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: The Patriots when eleven and five their quarterback was Steve Grogan,

1215
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: who had touchdowns twenty three picks, completed exactly fifty of

1216
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: his passes. The different world they went one and done,

1217
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: got wiped out by the Oilers on New Year's Eve.

1218
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: So there you go. Uh, anything else in this game? Greg, No,

1219
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: I think that's it. T J. Watt with another force

1220
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: fumble maybe helps him in his Defensive Player of the

1221
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 1: Year race, especially on a really tough day for Stephane Gumar.

1222
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: Theyd have three penalties to t J. Watt, but he

1223
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: does that thing where he punches the ball out but

1224
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: sometimes he misses it. And he just swung and punched

1225
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: r G three eight in the in the biceps so hard.

1226
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: I was like, God, that looks like the high like

1227
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: a thirty yard penalty. That wasn't even a penalty. I mean,

1228
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: that's legal. You can punch guys in the arm if

1229
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: they have the ball. You know that should be reviewable. West,

1230
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: what do you think punching in the army. I want

1231
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: to see a pair of brothers in the history of

1232
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: the NFL win Defensive Player of the Year. That would

1233
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: be amazing. Big. I think Watt's got a pretty decent

1234
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: shot t J. Watt to plenty of teams aside not

1235
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: to draft him. Nice good luck to me on what

1236
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: well you want to see two brothers win defense player?

1237
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 1: I hope that happens for you. That is a goal

1238
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: of mine. I mean I have it's a purely vicarious want.

1239
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: Let's move on harm in the polling for you. Poor

1240
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: bank car looks for you and so pulls the ball.

1241
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: There's defecting and to a point conversion? Five? Yes, who

1242
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: Shelky Harris t pass deflection of the season seven secus

1243
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: left sixteen dever Dave Logan ko A with the call

1244
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: Derek Carr's potential game winning two point conversion temp batted down. Yeah,

1245
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: but you know who Shelby Harris who Greg alerted the

1246
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: group when it happened that he leads a league in

1247
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: those deflections ten on the year. At the line of

1248
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: scrimmage sixteen fifteen, the Broncos hold on um beating the

1249
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: Raiders in the final game for both teams. Oakland did

1250
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: not get the outside help they needed to remember the

1251
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: four coin tosses? Did they lose all four coin tosses?

1252
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: They were the Steelers lost they needed them, so one

1253
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: out of three is not gonna get it done. They

1254
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: were one out of four ain't gonna get it done,

1255
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: and uh they were. Their fate was decided by early

1256
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter essentially, and um good vibes around

1257
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: the Broncos. They finished strong at seven and nine, drew

1258
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: lock wins four or five starts. Philip Lindsay becomes the

1259
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: first undrafted running back in NFL history to go over

1260
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: one thousand yards and back to back seasons to open

1261
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: a career. And we also had a charming little anecdote

1262
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: from the CBS broadcast team that Vic Faggio, who was

1263
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: spending Christmas alone because of the nature of the gig friends.

1264
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's one of those two Christmas Eve.

1265
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: He watched a Hallmark Christmas movie alone in his easy chair,

1266
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: went to the facility, did his coach work, came home,

1267
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: maybe grab the beer. I don't know what he's doing,

1268
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: sat back down, and then kept binging Hallmark Lifetime movies

1269
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: or Hallmark Channel Christmas movies. So not just a nice

1270
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: little feel good do you imagine Vic Fongio away from

1271
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: the family, got that Christmas cheer anyway, And it's just

1272
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: a nice little but what you look puzzled? Well, you know,

1273
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: so during the Super Bowl weeks when you get a

1274
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: chance to talk to these guys. Fongio was with the

1275
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: Niners at the time and I sat down. He was

1276
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: at a table with no one else, so I tried

1277
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: to sit down and ask him a couple of questions

1278
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: in the routes my time to do that. I don't

1279
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: think I've ever met a grumpier man in my left

1280
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: said on the telcast too. So the last guy in

1281
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: the NFL you would ever think would be taken by

1282
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: Hallmark Christmas changes. I'm not a man that's looking for

1283
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: intellectual stimulation with his entertainment outside of the game, but

1284
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: I understand it's a lot going on. Turn it off

1285
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: the brain, Yeah, yeah, turn it off the brain. But no,

1286
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: this was a nice back half of the season. Obviously

1287
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: the Broncos, who were totally lost in space in the

1288
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: first half. I believe they won six or eight to

1289
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: close the season. And it's still disappointing because of the

1290
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos thought they could uh with Joe Flacco and

1291
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: all that. With Joe Flacco fields like a hundred years

1292
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: ago that they would be a team that would be

1293
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: in contention and perhaps playing next week. That never came

1294
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: close to happening. But West, if you squint, you could

1295
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: maybe see the Denver Broncos with some pieces Courtland Sutton

1296
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: among them, as being a team that can be turning

1297
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: it around in a quick fashion of some things go

1298
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: their way. I agree, and I don't think they played

1299
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: better in the second half of the season. They just

1300
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: got luckier in close games, right. This was a game

1301
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: where it's kind of abnormal for the year. The Raiders

1302
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: more than double their yardage. They were competitive in almost

1303
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: every single game they played and lost. The Raiders who

1304
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: got had a lot of good fortune. This seventh window

1305
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: doesn't make them Bowl eligible. They're gonna face off next

1306
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: week on Saturday in the West Bowl Broncos Cowboys Saturday.

1307
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,040
Speaker 1: They're just both of those teams can look for it

1308
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: the next year. Anything else do you guys need to

1309
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: know about this game? Well? No, but I just think

1310
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: that we talked about this four coin toss for the Raiders.

1311
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: Like the Raiders have had one of the most disappointing

1312
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: final six weeks of any team in the league, and

1313
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: it starts with that. Jacksonville laws at home and as

1314
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: every sandwich by a bunch of other totally deflating results.

1315
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: That took a six and four squad that was something

1316
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: delightful at one point, and I, I don't know, I

1317
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: I but didn't really feel like stunning. When the wheels

1318
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: came off, it felt like they were playing but and

1319
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 1: they were a nice story, but this felt more like reality.

1320
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: And even so seven and nine for a team a

1321
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: disaster and had a year ago, I like, I'm back

1322
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: on Gruden and I think that you know, Maya died

1323
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 1: an excellent job with the draft, So there's there's reasons

1324
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: to be hopeful. But it's got to be frustrating for

1325
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: the people in Oakland to have watched this team spiral

1326
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: out of control over the last month. And there was

1327
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: a little moment right after the two point conversion failed.

1328
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: Gruden didn't even seem that upset. It actually helped. He smiling,

1329
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: He gave Paul Gunter put his arm around him, and

1330
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: then he gave Derek Carr a really nice handshake, and

1331
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: it seemed like a nice moment between the two of them.

1332
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: I I imagine they felt pretty good about how the

1333
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: season went, that they found some players that they could

1334
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 1: build around that. They have a bunch of draft picks

1335
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: coming uh in the first round and my boy Hunter

1336
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: renfro greg six or one two. Darren Waller went over

1337
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: a hundred yards again. You have, of course Josh Jacobs,

1338
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: who the injuries kind of cost him the end of

1339
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: the seat. Jonathan back next year with Abram coming back,

1340
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: Ahler is gonna win that comeback Player of the Year award?

1341
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet it is, Tannehill. You want to

1342
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: talk about narrative based awards. I mean, that's kind of

1343
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: what the comeback Player of the Year is. And this

1344
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: was a guy on a hard knocks was going to

1345
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: uh A a meetings man, Tannehill. Turn the whole Titans

1346
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: franchise around there. Theren Waller got what goes over a

1347
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: hundred today to go over nineties something catches and eleven

1348
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: hundred yards of the season, just pure stats wise, one

1349
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: of the best received being tight end seasons of all time.

1350
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: And we have no idea what come back player of

1351
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: the Year is. It can be anything you wanted to

1352
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: be pure stats wise, Tannehill, I have one of the

1353
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: most efficient quarterback seasons. Why do you hate Darren Waller?

1354
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just saying it's way more impressive to

1355
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: turn a franchise around into a cruise stats. You have

1356
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 1: a good cruise stats, screw stats. Both of them are crew.

1357
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: All right, Can you at least give me the Dann

1358
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: Waller is a triumph of the human spirit. Guy, I'm

1359
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: gonna give you more than that. I wrote an article

1360
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: a month ago saying he's comeback player of the year.

1361
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: But things change and Tannehill is the guy. You gotta

1362
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: give us a link dot com slash westling. Well that no,

1363
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: that takes us to a jumble of articles and we

1364
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: have to search through that. So all right, let's see.

1365
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: Let's move. Let us now from like that. You sit

1366
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 1: three for three today from the right ash high snap

1367
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: pulled down by down. The kick is up and the

1368
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: kick is good. Freddie painetto ten seconds to go and

1369
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: the Bears back in front, leading one nineteen. I love Jeff, Johnny,

1370
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: I kids the pinetto. That's good again. That's pros bro.

1371
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: That's a pro bro w BBM with the call you

1372
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: drilled u pineto. Eddie's fourth field goal of the game

1373
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: came from twenty two yards out with ten seconds to play.

1374
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: They gave the Bears stop Bears nineteen win over the Vikings,

1375
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: who rested their regulars ahead of the playoffs. West. If

1376
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: you would have told Bears fans in August that their

1377
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: team won their final game of the season with a

1378
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: field goal the seconds to play, they probably would have

1379
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 1: guessed they had a parade coming up down the street

1380
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: of Chicago. Chicago, Chicago. Didn't quite work Main Street in Chicago,

1381
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 1: famous Main Street Park. It didn't quite work out that way. No,

1382
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: And I think it's a major upset that Eddie Pannero

1383
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: last the entire season. Is the kicker it is he

1384
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: hung on. It sounds like they were afraid to go

1385
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,879
Speaker 1: down that road of trying to replace the guy mid season,

1386
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: so they stuck through it because Pinero hardly had a

1387
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: great season. No, but there were more questions asked about

1388
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback position and whether he was gonna be yanked

1389
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: than whether the kicker was going to be covered. And

1390
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: I feel like this was a fitting end here for Mitchell.

1391
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: Fourth and nine game in the balance. All the Vikings

1392
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: have to do to get a win with Sean Mannion

1393
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: as your quarterback and Mike Boon against all the Bears

1394
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: starters is uh, stop Drabinsky on the fourth and nine.

1395
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: But Drabinsky makes a nice throw on a rollout, and

1396
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: now he's going to somehow like convince the entire organization

1397
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,719
Speaker 1: because of that throw that we're bringing it back. Please,

1398
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: I'd say this. I think that was in the Gabbard zone,

1399
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: by the way, you know, against the Vikings backups. It

1400
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: was not a great performance. I think this every year,

1401
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: but I can't take any team seriously as a super

1402
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: Bowl contender if they entered the season with Seawan Mannion

1403
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: as their number two quarterback. This gout the third stringer

1404
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: at best. And that's been the case since he entered

1405
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: the league. Every time he plays, I'm thinking, how does

1406
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: this guy sell people on him as a backup? How

1407
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 1: about Mitch Drabinsky is the backup? He should be a

1408
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,759
Speaker 1: back I think I hope that they should know that correctly.

1409
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear an off season of hoop

1410
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: law about we're working on his footwork and Mitchell trip

1411
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: Bisky's had his screwed back on straight leave me alone.

1412
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: It is, well, they're not coming after you personally. Well,

1413
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but this is a this is a

1414
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: nice day where you get to you know, and we've talked.

1415
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: You get to wave farewell to a couple of teams

1416
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: that desperately need to get out of our world, and

1417
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: this is one of them. Go away. I don't want

1418
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: to hear anything else from the Bears for many, many weeks,

1419
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: or the Bears actually take a break from the Bears. Yeah,

1420
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: we could certainly take a break. And they have a

1421
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: decision to make. Obviously, this was a second overall pick.

1422
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: It was his third season, but there's so much ugly

1423
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: baggage attached to it. Um after him, it's almost like,

1424
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 1: if he's not showing you and you don't want that

1425
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: to be reminded forever and have this guy in your building,

1426
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: just start fresh. I imagine that's what's gonna happen. But

1427
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: we'll we'll see how it plays out. Uh, it might

1428
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 1: play out with they bring in an Andy Dalton type

1429
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzpatrick and there's a quarterback portion m big

1430
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: bearded man in the streets of Chicago. Let's move Michigan Avenue, Michigan.

1431
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,440
Speaker 1: After looking for amazing Michigan Avenue with the great architecture

1432
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: and one of the great cities, the second city, Go ahead, Aerica,

1433
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, Horry. Why wouldn't they be play Clockett for

1434
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: shotgun from men jew I went on the river tour.

1435
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: The architecture is gonna be again. Frank Frangie and Tony

1436
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: Boselli with the call like you need to hear. A

1437
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: Jaguars highlight in Week seventeen w O k V with

1438
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: the score with the call there, Gardner, me and show

1439
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: Uh turned in a really solid performance through for two nine,

1440
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: five and three touchdowns, leading the Jaguars to a thirty

1441
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: eight to twenty win over the Colts. Means Shoe stands

1442
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: to have you know, stands a serious chance to be

1443
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: ja Sxonville's opening day starter in the question is, of

1444
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: course who will be his coach again? New Horizons Monday

1445
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: coming up. But this is you can avoid this this

1446
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: subplot around Jacksonville right now. Rap sheet reported early Sunday.

1447
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: And this is always a weird thing whenever I see

1448
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: this out there that today's game, the week seventeen meaningless

1449
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: game against it also ran Colts team could play a

1450
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: role in Jacksonville decision. Jacksonville's decision, well, they beat up

1451
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: on a Colts team that packed it in a couple

1452
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. So now do you feel better about

1453
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: duck run. I just never understood that. I hope that's

1454
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: not actually what the front office is thinking. The same

1455
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: thing was happening in Cleveland. I agree that it's very

1456
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: awkward to suggest that this game of all games would

1457
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: be the the referendum on Doug Marone or anyone else

1458
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: attached to the Jaguars. And it was. I thought it

1459
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: was Minshew's best game and it showed again why he

1460
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: fit in this sort of mostly broken down offense much

1461
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: better than Foals. And it's not a knock on Foles,

1462
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: but he can he can move and he can escape,

1463
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 1: and he he needs to do that in this in

1464
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: this in this attack, to me, I like the Colts

1465
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: geez six and four at one point they have been

1466
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: absolutely they are like the Raiders have just been lacerated

1467
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: down the stretch. And I I left this game with

1468
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: with additional questions about Jacoby Pursett, who walked into a

1469
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: couple of sacks. Um had a terrible fumble in this

1470
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: game that really pivoted the contest in Jacksonville's favor, And

1471
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, I know they're banged up. Marlon Mack looks great.

1472
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: I think he's the best player on the field for

1473
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: the Colts today. And you know, but you're here's a

1474
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: perfect example. And we've actually you've mentioned it Mark before,

1475
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. You know, Frank Reich, you know he leaves

1476
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: and as Doug Peterson a guy who can do it

1477
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: on his own. Well, Doug Peterson, with the true franchise quarterback,

1478
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: was able to see their way through the wilderness. Whereas

1479
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: the Colts with Jake Brisket, and I know Brisket had

1480
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 1: the knee injury. When the injuries hit the Colts and

1481
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: they were a team at the crossroads, they went a

1482
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: different direction. It's very easy to end up going the

1483
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: direction the Colts are going, which is why I think

1484
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: what Peterson and Wentz did together was so special. You know,

1485
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 1: they what team has been through more. You lose Andrew

1486
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: Luck in August and you have to turn around and

1487
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: they they look to me like one of the feistier

1488
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: a f C clubs for a while. But the injuries

1489
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 1: have taken such a toll in their defense has given

1490
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: up in the last four games thirty four and then

1491
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: today whatever the point total was today and they they

1492
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: had a nice game against the Panthers sandwiched in there.

1493
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: But that's ugly. So that's you know, that's not the

1494
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: way you want to season of one of the best

1495
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: performances about the Jaguars offense all year. Take note that

1496
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette was not on the field, right. I'm

1497
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: just do not make him the focal point of you're

1498
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: off now, and he won't be after that. He's under contract.

1499
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: But when he tweeted out, you know yes on Saturday

1500
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: that you know he hopes uh a lot of the

1501
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: his teammates are back with him next year, I was thinking,

1502
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if Leonard Fournette's back next right. Then again, um,

1503
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: it was a big win because you know, you got

1504
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: the sixth win. That's only the second time in seven

1505
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 1: years under David Codwall you got the six wins. So

1506
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: that's a big that's a big euston. Why not bring

1507
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: the whole gang back together? Great rookie class and DJ

1508
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: Chark became a star this year. They do have some

1509
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 1: bright spots. That's fat dog, that's fat Josh Allen gets

1510
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. They got some things, all right, let

1511
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 1: us move on off. You know, right around the time

1512
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: that the Patriots fell on the Dolphins, this went down snap,

1513
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: the Winston dropping straight back bros intercepted Dean Jones and

1514
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: the ball game is over. And that's thirty picks from

1515
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: pearl Boy Winston and Jamus. Winston throws his thirtieth interception

1516
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: on the first playoff overtime and Atlanta wins the game two.

1517
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: Westerham of the Callums Dave Archer that called James was

1518
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: an our boy. You know that as patronizing Dave Archer

1519
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: w z g C. Deon Jones intercepts Jameis Winston on

1520
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: the first play of ot returns to twenty seven yards

1521
01:18:55,960 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 1: of the house. Falcons win the sixth victory and eight

1522
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 1: games to close the season. We learned Saturday that Dan

1523
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: Quinn would keep his job. That's correct, right. That wasn't

1524
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: like a really sad dream that I had over the weekend.

1525
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: I believe that was That's real. Yes, thank you, uh,

1526
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: And now Quinn and the Falcons can look to the

1527
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: offseason with some optimism after the one in seventh start. Uh. Winston, Yes,

1528
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: he did it, he did it. He did it. He

1529
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: did at the first quarterback ever to go thirty thirty.

1530
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: Were on that four or five weeks ago. By the way,

1531
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: if that became a national story. Yes, um, not that

1532
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: he did thirty thirty thirty, but that I was on it. Yes,

1533
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: but Winston becomes the first Tampa Bay quarterback to pass

1534
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 1: for five thousand yards in the season. But they don't

1535
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: go anywhere again with Winston as their quarterback and Bruce

1536
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: arians Uh who that nobody had a worse final two

1537
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 1: weeks than Jamis maybe Duck Hodges, but like Jamis Winston

1538
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: h Entering week sixteen, there was a report out there that, oh, yeah,

1539
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: the Bucks are ready, it's a in business with Jameis Winston.

1540
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: And then he goes out and absolutely craps the bed.

1541
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: In Week sixteen and seventeen, he threw six and NFL

1542
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: record seventh pick six. They lose both games, and it

1543
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: makes the decision with um, you know a Winston up

1544
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: for a new deal really difficult. He played the exact

1545
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: same those two weeks is the entire year though, if

1546
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: not better, I mean with worst receivers. That's that's what

1547
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: he is. That's siminitely not true. He was doing special things,

1548
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: uh in the that little three week run up to

1549
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. But he's throwing two picks a

1550
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: week every week. They lost buzzer like, that's this is

1551
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: what they are. If they somehow fooled themselves into that

1552
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 1: that stretch was any different, they just had a couple

1553
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: of Yeah, the last two weeks took a toll in arians.

1554
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: Let's hear what Arians had to say. Yeah, I mean

1555
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: that's just there's so much good you look at, there's

1556
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: so much good, and there's so much outright terrible, out

1557
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: right terrible. Do you know what? I think it hurt

1558
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: Arians so much because he knows if they re up

1559
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: with Winston, he's gonna enter next season with that scarlet ratio.

1560
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: People are gonna think of him as the thirty thirty quarterback.

1561
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: They already think of him as this brilliant artist whose

1562
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: medium is turnovers. Like he's he's a fun quarterback to watch,

1563
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 1: and he leaves his fingerprints all over football games. But

1564
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: it's sloppy art. He's not a winner, he doesn't mean

1565
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: just has not been a winning team with him as

1566
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: their starter for four straight years. Super productive in one way,

1567
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: but what what team is winning games when your quarterback

1568
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: is turning over? It's not just the it's the fumbles too,

1569
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,759
Speaker 1: It's not just even the interceptions. I mean he thinks

1570
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: he has leveraged. We'll see. Jamis Winston thinks he's I

1571
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: think that he would get that. Not only that, like

1572
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: that he would command a big salary that he's definitely

1573
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: gonna get tagged because there's no way they could afford

1574
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: to pay him. Doesn't not depend on who else becomes available,

1575
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 1: who's out there and what. Yeah, that is a big factor,

1576
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: but Tempo will have to make the decision before that. Well,

1577
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: we'll have plenty of his history. He's he's a person

1578
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 1: the owner would have to sign off on. Yea. And

1579
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: by the way, on the bus, we know that they do.

1580
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: I misspoke. Winston has been here five years now, and

1581
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: their record in those five seasons six and ten, nine

1582
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: and seven, five and eleven, five and eleven and seven

1583
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: and nine, So I mean, I get. I mean, well,

1584
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: I would say that a lot of you know, who

1585
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: else has been there that long. The general manager who

1586
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: continues to uh, you know, stick around with the team

1587
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: when they're not growing. The Quinn the Quinn decision, you

1588
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 1: like seeing some continuity. I think it really meant that

1589
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: they were keeping general manager Thomas Demtrof. I have a

1590
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: feeling I feel like if they were gonna blow it up.

1591
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: They were gonna blow the whole thing up. But it

1592
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: is interesting to me, like the way you measure teams

1593
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: and players is in sixteen game increments, and they went

1594
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: seven and nine in the last two years. So it's

1595
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 1: just it's an oddity of football to me that because

1596
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: they got to seven and nine this way, that's somehow better,

1597
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: But it's not. It's no better. There's no correlation between

1598
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: finishing strong in the next season period like it almost

1599
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: never happens. In fact, the Falcons are a great example.

1600
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: So ultimately, UH team that entered two years ago with

1601
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 1: a roster we all said was maybe the best roster

1602
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL has gone seven and nine two

1603
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: street years. I think we know this about demotrof after

1604
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: all these years. He can build an offense, but what

1605
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: can he do about his defense? And it Jerry Jones is,

1606
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, potentially susceptible to making an emotional decision at coach.

1607
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: I think Arthur Blank, who has been extremely loyal to

1608
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: people in the past, is tied ending we should have

1609
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: had a Super Bowl trophy with this organ with this regime,

1610
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: and they want a happier ending. Uh No, happy endings

1611
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: in the final game for the Rams at the Colosseum, well,

1612
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: actually kind of a happy ending, but that's it. The

1613
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: season's over. Let's check in on that game. Nail that one.

1614
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:46,799
Speaker 1: Get the fitish out of wind the end zone. It's

1615
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Hi with the December He'll never forget touchdown l

1616
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: A seventeen. The Rams are back on the highside. That's

1617
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: our boy. See, that's how you use our boy. J

1618
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: Blong with the call for KSPN. Congrats to j B

1619
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: and his wife just had their second baby. He's right

1620
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: back to work. Procreating bro Tyler Higbee and Robert Woods

1621
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: called touchdown passes from Jared Goff in the fourth quarter. Yeah.

1622
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: Higbee was a monster his final month, and the Rams

1623
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 1: said goodbye to the cal Seeum with a over the Cardinals.

1624
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 1: No playoffs of the Rams, but their third straight winning season.

1625
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: That's not nothing, West Uh. This wasn't how the Rams

1626
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: envisioned it ending, but their offense put mostly good tape

1627
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: out there in the final month. That's something to build on.

1628
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: I think that's how they probably want to look at it.

1629
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: That our offense finally jelled down the stretch and I

1630
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen with Todd Gurley next year.

1631
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: That is a huge question. But I do know that

1632
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: they can't allow Tyler Higbee to just be a blocker

1633
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: again the rest of his career. He's got to be

1634
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: a big part of the passing game. The way he's played,

1635
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: it's not just the numbers. He's looked good doing it.

1636
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: And then the Cardinals side, Kyler Murray didn't do enough

1637
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 1: for me for Rookie of the Year. He he just

1638
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 1: wasn't special enough compared to other quarterbacks. But you know,

1639
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: another game where he made a slew of impressive throws.

1640
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: He also made some turnover worthy plays. Overall, I think

1641
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: if you're a Cardinals fan, you're still pretty happy with

1642
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: the way the season ended. He put together a few

1643
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 1: few good games, and he looks like a unique talent.

1644
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: Let's not forget about the Mike Silver report mentioning that

1645
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 1: Wade Phillips future in question, some issues potentially with the

1646
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: front office, some movement there. So you know, I think

1647
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: there's a very intriguing, interesting off season coming up for

1648
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: they had their rise and they stalled out a little bit,

1649
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: and now they have to figure out what comes next. Alright,

1650
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 1: Two notes in this team. Larry Fitzgerald says will take

1651
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: a little time before making a decision, but he also

1652
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 1: said this was the one of the most fun years

1653
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: he's played with the Cardinals. I think that has a

1654
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: lot to do with Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury and

1655
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. Had a couple of passes defense, tackle for

1656
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: lost quarterback hit, but did not have a act, which

1657
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: allowed Shack Barrett to lead the league in sex. Looks

1658
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: like he wasn't just kind of a flashing the solid,

1659
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: solid player, good athlete you're happy for. I am extremely

1660
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: happy brother has won the Defensive Players of the Year.

1661
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 1: I want to be with Mark in in Miami when

1662
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: they announced the Defensive Player of the Year because it's

1663
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: the excitement that's gonna spend all our time together, literally

1664
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: every day every week. What was that, Mark? Oh yeah,

1665
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: he wants he wants it bad. All right, let's move on.

1666
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: Do you have two points? Donald? Play acts it again,

1667
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: flips it in the end song Tamison Crowders got it.

1668
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,759
Speaker 1: That's a chet touchdown off the play acts and fakes

1669
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:53,839
Speaker 1: Sam Donald a little flip over the middle to Jamison Crowder.

1670
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: He makes the touchdown catch and the Jets take the

1671
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: lead back and they have scored the first touchdown of

1672
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: the game about nineties seconds gone by on the fourth

1673
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: form Bob was Shusan w e p n with the call. Yeah,

1674
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: not exactly a shootout in Orchard Park, Sam Donald Uh

1675
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: to James crowd Crowder was the only touchdown on Sunday. Uh.

1676
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: The end result of thirteen six win for the Jets

1677
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: over the Bills backups. The Jets finish the season like

1678
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: the Falcons, seven and nine after one and seven start

1679
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: that was so bad. You may recall that there are

1680
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: reports Adam Gaze he fired mid season, he'll be back.

1681
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: It sounds like, uh, that didn't happen. Uh. The Jets

1682
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: actually finished with their this is bad. Their best record

1683
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: in a season since two thousand fifteen, so I guess progress. Um.

1684
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: A cake schedule certainly helped in the second half of

1685
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: the Jets. But yeah, six and two after one and seven,

1686
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: that that is a nice way to close, even if

1687
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: it means they're draft pick isn't as good. I don't

1688
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: care as much about that stuff because you know, the

1689
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: drafts are crapshoot. Anyway, Anyway, on the Bills side, UH,

1690
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 1: the number one goal was staying hell they couldn't achieved that.

1691
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: Starting cornerback Levi Wallace was ruled out after suffering a

1692
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: pretty nasty looking ankle interception injury. On an interception offensive

1693
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: lineman Tie He aggravated an ankle injury and his first

1694
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: action since week eleven. So I was like, the only

1695
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 1: thing the Bills were trying to do is stay healthy.

1696
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: Of course, they're locked in uh for a playoff spot

1697
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: at the five seed. They couldn't do it, so hopefully

1698
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: those guys are able to play. I haven't gotten updates

1699
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: on where they're at. Josh Allen played one series and

1700
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: there really isn't much more to say about this game.

1701
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: It does feel to me and this is not the

1702
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 1: first time this has happened that the New York press

1703
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: has it in for gays to some degree. It feels

1704
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: like there are some sort of weekly stuff coming out

1705
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: that can paints them in a bad light. And I

1706
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: don't know, we talked about this is this is not

1707
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 1: the worst coaching coaching job the Jets have ever experienced

1708
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: that I don't know didn't take a step forward, and

1709
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: that's his job one, So that's the biggest concern. But yes,

1710
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: as Dan said, we'll have all offseason to tuck about

1711
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: the Jets. All right, let us move on to the

1712
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland brown Dalton in the shotgun. On third down and

1713
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: goal from the five, the Bengals leading by six points.

1714
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: Dalton dropped back to throw from the twelve, looking around

1715
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: and scrambling out to the left, being chased handy trying

1716
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: to sprints from the part of yes, yes, if this

1717
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 1: is Andy Dalton's final game in a Cincinnati Bengals uniform.

1718
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 1: He has a touchdown pass and a touchdown run. Dave

1719
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: Horde Dave lap him. That was Dave lap him getting pumped.

1720
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 1: I love it, Dan Horde and Dave lap Dan Horde

1721
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: wave lap him, as we used to say, the lap dog,

1722
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: the lap dog. He got excited there on Dalton's run. Yes,

1723
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton did throw for a touchdown ran for a

1724
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 1: score in what was likely his farewell as Cincinnati's franchise quarterback.

1725
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: It was a thirty three win for the for the

1726
01:29:56,360 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Bengals over the Browns. That's a two and fourteen finished

1727
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,839
Speaker 1: for the Bengals, who will get the number one overall

1728
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: pick and most likely that Joe Burrow guy who seems

1729
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: pretty good Anyway, the Cleveland Browns made headlines after the

1730
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: game when they fired Freddie Kitchens after one season on

1731
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: the sideline six and ten. The Browns were let's start there, Mark.

1732
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: You know, it was last March. I believe it was

1733
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: that we were at the owners meetings and we had

1734
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 1: that sit down with Freddie Kitchens, and he was delightful.

1735
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: He was a guy's guy. He was a dude that

1736
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, he just seemed like a guy you could

1737
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: go get a stake with and have some drinks and

1738
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 1: he'd be fun and and hopefully that would be something

1739
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: that translated as a head coach, uh, that good old

1740
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: boy type vibe. But it certainly did not. It wasn't.

1741
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 1: It wasn't a bad move by the Browns ultimately, wasn't.

1742
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 1: I think they had to do this. And I feel

1743
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: like he lost this locker room a couple of weeks ago,

1744
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 1: if not, if not previous to that. And I couldn't

1745
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: agree with you more that One of the things that's

1746
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: so disappointing as a longtime Browns fan is that I

1747
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,719
Speaker 1: kind of felt like the drive to get Freddy Kitchens

1748
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 1: and the way he sort of has carried himself that

1749
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,080
Speaker 1: he might have been in a way from another angle,

1750
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: the perfect guy too could have been right exactly like,

1751
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: and it went in completely the opposite direction. I think

1752
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: it's a it's a case study in when you know,

1753
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 1: if you look at his resume, he really didn't have

1754
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 1: a lot in his past suggesting that he was going

1755
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: to be a successful head coach. It was, you know,

1756
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 1: high the Peter principal hired above his skill set for

1757
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 1: where he's at right now, and then on top of it,

1758
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: trying to be one of these guys that calls plays

1759
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 1: while trying to manage an NFL game at the same time,

1760
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: and kind of always had an aura of being in

1761
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: over his head from the very first game until today,

1762
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: when you there's no excuse with the talent on this

1763
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: roster uh to lose to the Bengals or to lose

1764
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 1: half the games they lost. And you know, if you

1765
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 1: look at the Rob Kazinski is just a few coaches ago,

1766
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:53,919
Speaker 1: a one year, one and done guy. And the Browns

1767
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: under the Haslems have had so many coaches at this

1768
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 1: point and tried so many different types of coaches, but

1769
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: they've never really had the veteran guy that has come

1770
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: with a track record from somewhere else, and I would

1771
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: imagine that that's the what they're attracted to right now,

1772
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: is not We'll see it could be we'll get into

1773
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: that down the road, but you know they want the

1774
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: opposite of what they've just experienced in Freddie Kitchens, which

1775
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: is a young, in over his head guy trying to

1776
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: figure it out. Good guy, yes, but the right guy

1777
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,600
Speaker 1: to be head coach of this super players. No. It

1778
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: seemed like they settled on Kitchens last January against their

1779
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,720
Speaker 1: better judgment, because they just decided what he did with

1780
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: Baker and Mayfield and setting a new rookie record for

1781
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns and playing really well down the stretch, we just

1782
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 1: want to disrupt that. But that's yeah, that was emotional,

1783
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 1: terrible leadership, and he was so genuine is to seem

1784
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: almost guileless. And then when you see reports Sunday night

1785
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: that he thought he had the backing of the Brown's

1786
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 1: front office, that is guileless to not even know that

1787
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 1: as undisciplined as your team was all year, the lack

1788
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: of priorities every week, that it wasn't about anying and losing,

1789
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: it was about so many other things that you were

1790
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 1: so guileless to not know that you you were going

1791
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: to be out on the street after this. Well, he

1792
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: he had someone who hired him and John Dorsey that

1793
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: maybe he believed at his back. He had an owner

1794
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 1: who took over in what two thousand twelve was the

1795
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: first season, and they're gonna be hiring their seventh head coach.

1796
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: So this isn't on Freddy Kitchens. Freddy Kitchens helped their

1797
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: offense improved last year as a position coach. Like, this

1798
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 1: is the organization, This is ownership just having another huge

1799
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: swing in a miss. There's nothing else other than That's

1800
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 1: there else And I think any candidate has to look

1801
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: at this ownership group and have questions about this job

1802
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: versus no matter the talent, because talent coming still a

1803
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,719
Speaker 1: job that would be appetizing, I think to a coach

1804
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: because of the talent level on the roster, which remains significant.

1805
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: It is, but I mean, no one they've had two

1806
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: coaches last for more than two seats. But Brown's coach

1807
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 1: is ugly as well. Yeah, that is you know that

1808
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: seems cursed at this point. I think one thing also

1809
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: to remember it seems so long ago now after another

1810
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: NFL season that in our league. Um, but how great

1811
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 1: Baker was, especially closing last season. So it might seem

1812
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: crazy now that they said, oh, we want to keep

1813
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 1: this guy in the building. But Baker was like ruling

1814
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 1: the world a little bit by the end of last season,

1815
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: and it was like people, but no, maybe from that's

1816
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: from our advantage point, that's it's also when you're unsuccessful,

1817
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: profoundly unsuccessful, as the Browns have been, when Baker does

1818
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: what he did to close out that season, I get

1819
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: how it happened. I totally do too, and I, you know,

1820
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: maybe I was the guy less one, but I thought

1821
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 1: that it was gonna work, and I had a good

1822
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: feeling about him as a person in general. And you know,

1823
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: nine d five percent of these things in Cleveland go

1824
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: totally raging lye South. So chapter new no, just another

1825
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 1: chapter of the same. It was sort of the easy

1826
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: decision to make. It was the one where you couldn't

1827
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 1: be faulted at the time for it, because if Baker

1828
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: had struggled like he did this year under a different coach,

1829
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: they would have blamed that on on ownership. To that

1830
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: there end point is that Baker ended up with twenty

1831
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: two picks, twenty two touchdowns, and one picks this year

1832
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: and took a pretty big step back around and is

1833
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: onto his fourth head coach. The offense was significantly worse

1834
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: four Well, I mean, I'm counting Greg Williams as a

1835
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: head coach during his I mean, well, it's it's the culture.

1836
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 1: You know, you've been back. It's funny because there's a

1837
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 1: there's a brown reporter. Well there's a brown reporter out

1838
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: there that that asked around, like some various people, who

1839
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: would they want and someone seriously mentioned Greg Williams. Not

1840
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: that they're gonna do it, but because that's how different

1841
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 1: of a sea change they want in their leader versus

1842
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: what Freddy Kitchens was doing this season, which we don't

1843
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 1: know of what was going on behind the scenes. And

1844
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 1: that is just a quick peek at New Horizons Monday,

1845
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 1: which you'll catch in full more like Nuclear Morning late uh.

1846
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 1: It will go up late Monday, and we'll have a

1847
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: full update on every all the comings and goings on.

1848
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: What is a somber day in the league. Congratsandy Dalton

1849
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: putting up thirty three points for him, and I hope

1850
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: he lands in a good spot too. And our boy

1851
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens, I hope he lands he won't land as

1852
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: a head coach anywhere, But hopefully these guys get paychecks somewhere.

1853
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: The hasms are going to be paying him millions and

1854
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: millions of dollars for the next three years. They're paying

1855
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: like fo coaches right now. So what did Chuck begano say?

1856
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: They can't kill you. They can fire you, but they

1857
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: can't eat you. Freddy Kitchens will be all right, he

1858
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: might be happier doing something else. All right, boys, what

1859
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 1: what did we learn today? We learned so much? Uh

1860
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 1: and just and just remember again we got the playoffs

1861
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: coming up. That's fun. Mark twenty teams history, Bye bye bye,

1862
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 1: what harsh farewell to them all? See in late July.

1863
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 1: And now we got twelve dogs ready to rumble. Okay,

1864
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 1: and we we greg we achieve something here. We covered

1865
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: every game in the regular seas. We did it all.

1866
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: We covered every single game. I don't know if we

1867
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 1: ever did that before. Some games fell through the cracks

1868
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 1: and past seasons, whether it's a Saturday or holiday, we

1869
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,599
Speaker 1: got every single game. That's an achievement. By the round,

1870
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say that. We got on

1871
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 1: our network. Finally Friday, the Around the NFL Show Hubba.

1872
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 1: When are we three Pacific sixth eastern or three thirty?

1873
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 1: It's in that hour, does it matter? Set your DVR

1874
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: are on three straight Fridays. It's gonna be replayed up

1875
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: the wazoo. Set your DVRs for are you to watch it?

1876
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,520
Speaker 1: It will keep us glorious. If you like this podcast,

1877
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: keep us on the air, and keep us employed by

1878
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: watching our Around the NFL show on NFL Network. We've

1879
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: never had our own show before, so we're very excited

1880
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 1: about that. And Yes, New Horizons Monday UH spectacular podcast

1881
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: on Monday. Sources confirming it is three o'clock Pacific six eastern.

1882
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: Some people like to call it excellent, so make sure

1883
01:37:55,920 --> 01:38:00,839
Speaker 1: again set your DVRs. UH. New Horizons Monday podcast lands tomorrow.

1884
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Check it out. Thank you to everybody for listening UH

1885
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 1: and following along all season. We're heading towards the home

1886
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: stretch now January football is coming your way. Dan Hanson

1887
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,799
Speaker 1: signing up for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss,

1888
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 1: Rick Hollywood, and the entire gang behind the Glass until Monday,

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Speaker 1: m