1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson, and 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: it is time for the Fantasy Football Focus. And if 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: you played our DFS stack this week, you're probably pretty 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: happy about that. Well, depending on the tournament that you 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: got into. But we scored one hundred and sixty one 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: point three points. I didn't realize that the tournament that 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: we played, we only played the Sunday games. Oh really, okay, 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: we didn't include the Monday night game. But we won. 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: That's all that matters. We had Derek Carr in the 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: starting lineup at just fifty three hundred dollars. We get 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: eighteen points six points out of him. 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: Played pretty well, got better as the game went on too. 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had well three hundred and five passing yards. 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: They got weapons. 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: I like their weapons. Yeah, they didn't run the ball 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: very well, but I like their weapons. He played well. 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: What's one of our games. 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: We had Bijon Robinson going for twenty point three points 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: and that was despite Tyler Algierre showing up in that game. 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: He looks like he's gonna be the goal line back 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: and out rushed Bijon Bijeon looked phenomenal. And I think 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: he has six catches. 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: He did score, he had fifty six rushing yards. Yeah, 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: I mean he got yearly, he got used. We had JK. 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: Dobbins in the lineup that didn't work out, but he 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: still had eleven point seven points before he left the game, 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: did get into the end zone. Fifteen receiving yards, twenty 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: two rushing yards. That was mostly in the first half, 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: and then he left soon thereafter. 33 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: The season's over. Yeah. 34 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: We had Chris Olave stacked with Derek Carr. Yeah, and 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: well that worked out. Eight catches for one hundred and 36 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: twelve yards, didn't get in the end zone. That went 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: to Shaheed the long touchdown. 38 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: The but no, I think is gonna have a really 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: good year and that's going to be sort of the 40 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: norm for him. Yeah. 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: Michael Thomas showed up in that game too. 42 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think he's startable next week by 43 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: you know, see how see what it goes. 44 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, thank you very much. 45 00:01:59,240 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight for one oh one and a touchdown could 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: have been could have been more I don't know if 48 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: he caught a ball after like the first drive of 49 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: the third quarter, like that was most of that was 50 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: in the first half. 51 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like a dominant player once again. 52 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did have George Pickens in the lineup at 53 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: five thousand dollars. That didn't work out so well. He 54 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: had eight point six, so he didn't kill us, but 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: he didn't you know, he missed the one touchdown catching 56 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: at the one throw in the end zone, didn't get 57 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: his didn't get his feet down in bounds. 58 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: But another phenomenal body contortion catch. Yeah. 59 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: Uh, Hayden Hurst a tight end only three point three. Yeah, 60 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: he was only three thousand dollars. Well, we got fifteen 61 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: point one points out of him. 62 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: Nice. 63 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: Five catches for forty one yards in a touchdown. 64 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 3: Pretty much what we were hoping. Yeah, you take that 65 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: obviously a touch that some of these tight ends are 66 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: very touchdown dependent, but in fact you have five catches. 67 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: Especially in this week, given all the tight ends that 68 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: were out, that was a heck of a bargain. 69 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, think about it. I mean Kelsey was out, got 70 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: and out. I mean, yeah, Kittle didn't do a lot. 71 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: Uh, Aaron Jones was our flex. We spent up for 72 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: that sixty three hundred bucks and that paid off in 73 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: a big way. He had twenty six point seven points. 74 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: Even though he got hurt too late. 75 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was great in that game. Yeah, he had 76 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: eighty six receiving yards on just two catches, forty one 77 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: rushing yards and two touchdowns. 78 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: He was phenomenal and then pulled up with a hamstring 79 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: very late after scoring his receiving touchdown. 80 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: And then the Commander's defense as ex expected, only twenty 81 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: eight hundred bucks, sixty nine point five percent ownership. 82 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: Wow, that's you ever see for any play. 83 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: For a defense. Oh yeah, but eleven points and they didn't. 84 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: The thing is they weren't great. They they gave up six. 85 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: Game was a lot more competitive than Yeah, the originally thought. 86 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: They gave up sixteen points. They did have three sacks 87 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: to fumble recoveries, but it wasn't like dominant dominant. But 88 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: it's good enough to get you eleven. 89 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: Get you eleven. Yeah. The fact that they were so 90 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: heavily owned, we didn't benefit a ton from it, but 91 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: we got our money's worth. 92 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if we maybe, if we out of 93 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: the Ravens, we had got more points five point by 94 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: a point or two. But they were more expensive. 95 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: They were more expensive. Yeah, I was trying to think 96 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: there was like three defenses. I thought we liked maybe 97 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: Jacksonville was one. 98 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they didn't play right. Yeah, looking here at 99 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: the lineup that won this little. 100 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: Uh dolphin receiver and quarterback, you think. 101 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was another stack here Tua what quarterback at 102 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: sixty seven hundred had thirty two point one they? Oh, 103 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: this was heavy on the and the Chargers in the 104 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: Charge game because he had two with thirty two points. 105 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: It's amazing he only got thirty two points for that game. 106 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: He was only owned in three point five percent of leagues. 107 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 3: Played really well. 108 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he only had one touchdown. 109 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 3: Though, right, Tyreek had two? 110 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, ye had three. I'm sorry I hit he 111 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: doesn't run at all. Yeah, Austin Ekeler at eighty four 112 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine point four points least one touchdown, Yeah, 113 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: one hundred rushing yards, they were several receiving yards. Yeah, 114 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: just killer Miles involved. Yeah, Miles Sanders, he was fine. 115 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: Fifty six hundred points got you a twelve point eight 116 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: Tyreek fifty one point three percent ownership. 117 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: Wow, fifty percent ownership. 118 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, eleven catches to fifteen a touchdown or two receiving 119 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: touchdowns forty seven and a half points. Jacobe Myers only 120 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: point three percent ownership. Nine catches for eighty one yards 121 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: and two touchdowns. 122 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: That offense was pretty decent. He actually got hurt at 123 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: one point too. He took a real shot in the 124 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: middle of the field. 125 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: Now they only won that game seventeen sixty. 126 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I didn't think Jimmy played bad. 127 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: I yuk oh. That was another one eight for one 128 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: twenty nine and two touchdowns. That was thirty five point 129 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: nine points. Juwan Johnson at thirty nine hundred, he was 130 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: one of those tight ends we talked about. 131 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, cheap. 132 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: He had three for thirty six. 133 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 134 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: Van Jefferson that was a dart throw. At forty seven hundred, 135 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: he had four catches for twenty four yards. I wonder 136 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: what would have cost, Yeah, probably not much. It would 137 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: be much cheaper, right, Yeah, and then the Washington defense 138 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: was the was. 139 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: The a good team that's not a powerhouse. I mean, 140 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: the Dolphin connection is obviously giant in that. 141 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, but finding those games, I think the key there 142 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: is finding those games that you think are going to 143 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,239 Speaker 2: go back and forth like it or be high scoring. Yeah, 144 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: and certainly with three guys that were in that Miami 145 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: and Chargers game, certainly didn't hurt. 146 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 3: And Herbert wasn't bad. But the Dolphins couldn't stop the 147 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: run at all. I mean, the Chargers ran all. 148 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: Over the problem. Don't give me this Christian Wilkins stuff anymore, 149 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: because and then. 150 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: The opposite was true for the Chargers. I mean, Miami 151 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: obviously threw all over them. I Waddle had a couple 152 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: of big plays too, and you know, so interesting game. 153 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: Those teams always seem to play interesting games, going back 154 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: to Dragon Kellen Winslow off the field in nineteen eighty 155 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,119 Speaker 3: one or whatever. 156 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking here at this week's top performers, you had 157 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: two with four un sixty six passing yards. Kirk Cousins 158 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: at three forty four. 159 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: They couldn't run the ball at all either. 160 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Stafford at three point thirty four, which was great, Yeah, 161 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: he really did. Mac Jones had three sixteen, but he 162 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: only averaged five point eight yards per attempt. That was 163 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: more about going out there and throwing at fifty four times. 164 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: He threw a pick six too. 165 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you had Derek Carr the only other passer over 166 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: three hundred passing yards. This week wasn't a. 167 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: Lot of No, that wasn't a lot of fireworks outside 168 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: of that one game. 169 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, the leading rushers, you had only three guys over 170 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: one hundred rushing goods. Christian McCaffrey, Austin Ekeler, Nick Chubb. 171 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: Okay, they're the probably the best three backs in the league. 172 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, just outside of that, Josh Kelly sixteen for ninety one. 173 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: They Chargers just cashed him. 174 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: You he bind in the Josh Kelly. 175 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: No, but he'll be a hot waiver wire pickup. I 176 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: mean we could talk waiver wire stuff. 177 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: I mean, if something happened to ak Kilar, it's. 178 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: A clear two man without a clear two for three 179 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: years or five. 180 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: Years or whatever, and he did score a touchdown. 181 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 3: He scored, and he's the banger. He might be aj Dillon. 182 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis atn at eighteen seventy seven, Algier, we talked 183 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: about fifteen for seventy five. That's a that's a thing. 184 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: It's a thing. And Ritter was horrendous in the game. 185 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 3: I think Pitts had two catches, London had zero. 186 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: London had like seven targets and no catches. 187 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: No catches, I mean all those completions. 188 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: I heard today John about Pitts. The trouble troubling thing 189 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: is somebody said today I was listening to some fantasy radio. 190 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: They said, the problem is that they were in eleven 191 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: personnel like thirteen times in the game. 192 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 3: And he was on the field. 193 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: He was he was only on the field for like 194 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: three of those. 195 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: I know, I saw that too. They're how to say it, 196 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: I mean, they run so much that they always won 197 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: a blocking tight end in the field and sometimes he's 198 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: on the field right now. 199 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like fifty. Yeah, that's troubling. 200 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: That's a real worry. 201 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: The David Montgomery. 202 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: Thing is not. 203 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: People are just killing Matt Campbell over what's you know? 204 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: Why do you while you're running David Montgomery twenty one times? Again, 205 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: we talked. We talked about that, you know, because everybody 206 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: drafted Gibbs Gibbs early. He's more of a he's more 207 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: at N. Yeah, he's more at M than he is 208 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: the banger receiver. 209 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: He's not a pass protector. 210 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: He's yeah, he's replacing DeAndre Swift, who wasn't a full 211 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: time runner with them. 212 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: No Montgomery's to do the dirty work. 213 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand why people are surprised by that. 214 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: No, I mean, Gibbs might his production might spike in 215 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: terms of more catches. He might. 216 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, he might get He's going to get more as 217 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: the season goes on. But Montgomery's not going away. 218 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: No, I mean Gibbs his first game ever. Montgomery's going 219 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: to be more of the foundational dude though. 220 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: Tony Pollard only he had scored twice, but at fourteen 221 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: for seventy. 222 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't have to. 223 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: They didn't have to do much with him. 224 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: Their offense felt like they were just going to the motions, 225 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: like the defense just winning this for us, scoring on 226 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: their own Sad Jones whenever they want. I mean, offense 227 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: is kind of went out there a little bit and 228 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: got out. 229 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker had twelve for sixty four. 230 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's okay. 231 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: He was fine. 232 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: Struggled. Yeah, he didn't play great either. 233 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: Derrick Henry fifteen for sixty three. Is surprised. It was 234 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: only fifteen carries for Derrick Henry. 235 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: There was a few instances first and ten. Henry's on 236 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: the sidelines while ta J Spears is out there. 237 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that's Tannehill played bad, really bad, Yeah. 238 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: Really bad. That game was kind of a slog until 239 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: the end. 240 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: James Connor had fourteen for sixty two. So if you, 241 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: I mean, if you drafted James Corner, that's what he's 242 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: going to do for you every week. 243 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: Do that all the time. 244 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: How about this Chooba Hubbard nine for sixty. 245 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: He must have broke one. That's he's fast. 246 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: He must have got a He got it half as 247 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: many carries as Sanders. So Sanders is the. 248 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: Lead back, but Tuba is a clear too. 249 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: Chuba is the clear number two, And I mean he 250 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: is value. 251 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: He should probably be in every league. Yeah, he's a 252 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: higher end handcuff. 253 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: Brian Robinson got almost all the run. 254 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: I say Gibson didn't get anything. 255 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: Now that was some of that was gamespt when they're behind, 256 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: it's going to be I would think Gibson. 257 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: But I've heard some bad reports on Gibson too. I 258 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: drafted him in our league actually, and he was not 259 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: out there hardly at all. 260 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenneth game well, fourteen for fifty four, and he 261 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: was clearly the lead back, clear number of Philadelphia. 262 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: Penny hardly played swift hardly played. 263 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: Javonte Williams had thirteen for fifty two pe Ryan. I 264 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: think that it was almost a fifty to fifty split 265 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: with him in p Ryan now, but when Williams was 266 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: on the field, they used him good point. 267 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not out there to be a decoy or 268 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: no or block. 269 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: Or do any of that stuff. He's out there to 270 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: carry the football or catch the football. 271 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: And maybe his season gets better as it goes on, 272 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: you know, maybe putting them in slow. 273 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: How about the Kieran Williams stuff. 274 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: He looks better of the two. Yeah, I mean he's 275 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: a better receiver than akers. They played quite well. I 276 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: mean you can give the Rams. I don't think they 277 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 3: have a great year, but they were clearly the better 278 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 3: team in Seattle. And I think Williams should be in 279 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: the top of waiver wires. 280 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had fifteen for fifty two. The long run 281 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: was only nine. He's he had no breakaway speed. 282 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: No, he doesn't, Andy small r a good receiver other 283 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: than that, right, right, But the head coach likes him. 284 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean it goes a long way. Yeah, 285 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: just that. That's about it in terms of the running 286 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: back stuff. Looking at the receivers. You mentioned Puka Nikua 287 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: fifteen targets, hit, fifteen targets. He had ten catches for 288 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: one nineteen two twenty yard catches. Tyreek had eleven for 289 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: two fifteen. He had five twenty plus yard catches, one 290 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: forty plus yard catch. I mean he had on his 291 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: five those five longest catches, he had well over one 292 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: hundred yards. 293 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, a remarkable game, a remarkable player. He's 294 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: been phenomenal since he got to Miami, and he wasn't 295 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: too shabby in Casey either. 296 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: But Nikua is somebody that, oh I would pick him up. 297 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 298 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: Fifteen targets, Yeah right. 299 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: They're manufacturing big slot targets for it. 300 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: And the thing is, I don't know that he goes 301 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: away when Cup comes back. 302 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: No, they need everyone they can get, right. 303 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zay Flowers led that Baltimore. 304 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: He was probably their best off defensive player. 305 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 2: He had nine catches. It was only seventy eight yards 306 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: on ten targets. Again, that's what, that's what. That's why 307 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: I can't buy into him being a true number one 308 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: receiver or because it's a lot of Paris Campbell like stuff. 309 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: It is right now, and it might be for the 310 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: rest of it. 311 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: That might be what he does this season. You know, 312 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson did. Justin Jefferson. He had nine for one 313 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: fifty on twelve targets. 314 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they can't run it all and they're going 315 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: to keep throwing, and yeah, Jefferson should be first pick overall, 316 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: second pick overall, whatever if you're drafting right now. 317 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers with a nine for eighty one and two touchdowns, Now, 318 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: you're not going to count on getting two touchdowns out 319 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: of Jakobe Myers every week. But he did have ten targets. 320 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: And the head coach and quarterback are Patriot people. Yeah, 321 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: I mean that's you know, that's the Patriot kool aid. 322 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: Now, he does have the concussion that he suffered in 323 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: a big hit. I mentioned Dayuk if you're listening, sure, yeah, 324 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: if you're listening to our show in the preseason, we 325 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: love Dayuke in fact more than Debo. 326 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 3: Night him over family. 327 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's not a surprise therej. 328 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 3: He was a talk of their training camp too. 329 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: TJ. Hawkinson had eight catches on nine targets. Sounds great 330 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: for thirty thirty five yards. 331 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: I think he did much. I didn't realizee A eight 332 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: catch thirty five yards. Wow, man, I don't know what 333 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: his usage was. I'm sure he was out there a lot. 334 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: They paid him, but I wouldn't be worried about that. 335 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: But really bad tight end week though, Yeah, like wer 336 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: was bad last Kittle didn't do anything. 337 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: We mentioned a Lave eight for one to twelve that 338 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: was on ten targets. Michael Pittman eight for ninety seven 339 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: on eleven targets. He scored. I think that was more 340 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: of Jacksonville's defense playing poorly. 341 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: Maybe Richardson through a handful of r pos. I think 342 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: Pittman had a pretty long catch and run it was. 343 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a wide receiver screen that he took 344 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: forty yards. 345 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: I really liked the player, but it's not an ideal situation. 346 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: We mentioned Calvin Ridley, he had eleven targets in that game, 347 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: went eight for one on one in a touchdown like. 348 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: Him in a lave to me. Are really real? Are 349 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: very real? Yeah, I mean they're they're going to have 350 00:14:59,360 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: good years. 351 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: Aj Brown seven for seventy nine on ten targets. 352 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: That's just that their passing game didn't didn't do much. Yeah, 353 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: they scored on defense and that game was very close. 354 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins had thirteen targets in that game. Yeah, but 355 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: seven catches for sixty five yards. I think you might 356 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: want to get used to those from him. 357 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: That whole offense was a little, I mean not surprisingly. 358 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: Their O lines bad. Tannehill played bad. Chake got a 359 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: zero even though he was like super wide open downfield 360 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: for one. Burk's got a couple of real short ones. 361 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: I guess Hopkins of course is the one, But I 362 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 3: don't think I want him in fantasy. 363 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: No, No, I'd try to trade him now. Yeah, seven 364 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: for you know he got, he got thirteen targets, he's. 365 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: The number one. He's sell that. 366 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: DeVante Smith seven catches on ten targets, only forty seven yards. 367 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: He did score though, which kind of saved today. How 368 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: about this line for. 369 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: Devonte for these passing games, we remember. 370 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: Vante Adams got nine targets. Remember Jacoby Myers got ten, 371 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: DeVante Adams six for sixty six. 372 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not super worried. 373 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: Is this gonna be a trendo where Jacoby Myers is 374 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: getting more targets And I doubt. 375 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: That, but I bet they're far and away the top two. 376 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: And then we may have undersld Myers. Yeah, I don't 377 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: think we over sold. 378 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: Adams Keenan Allen had six for seventy six on nine targets. 379 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm surprised it was only nine, to be honest with. 380 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: They ran them all a lot. 381 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, two two out well, six for one to nineteen 382 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: on eight targets. 383 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: He's unbelievably fast. He's got all kinds of opportunity right now. 384 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: It's probably gonna be his best game of the year. 385 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: I would think. But he's he's definitely not going anywhere 386 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: with the cup comes back. No, No, because they played 387 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: three wide receivers a lot. 388 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: It was Jefferson and Nico. 389 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: Calvin, Austin making listener. He had six catches on six 390 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: targets to lead to Steelers only thirty seven yards, but 391 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: he was used and Robinson. 392 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: I mean, if Deontay misses time, Austin and Robinson are 393 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: worth considering. 394 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least should be on your radar, if not 395 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: on your bend. 396 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: DFS. 397 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: Kendrick Bourne looks like the number one in New England. 398 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: He got eleven targets in that game, six for sixty four, 399 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: two touchdowns. 400 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: I always thought he was kind of given a raw 401 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: deal last year. I read something or heard something that 402 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 3: he was late to a meeting and training camp. So 403 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: Belichick punished them all year or something, you know. But 404 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: they need guys like him. I mean he's good with 405 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: the ball in his hands. You know, he can demand 406 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: targets on a bad passing game. Yeah. 407 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: Nico Collins had eleven targets, got six for eighty. That's promising. 408 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's true. 409 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: Zach Ertz got ten targets, six for twenty one. 410 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: Six. Yeah, another bad tight end. 411 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: Day, not going his long He had six for twenty 412 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: one with a long catch of six yards six. That's 413 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: a run game option. 414 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: There around fall down. Yeah. 415 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: Mike Evans got ten targets, six for sixty six in 416 00:17:59,520 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 2: a touchdown. 417 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 3: Their offense was pretty good. 418 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't bad. 419 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Vikings, he's pretty good Viking. 420 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Rashawn Johnson had seven targets in that game. He 421 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: had six for thirty five. 422 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 3: It looks like he's gonna have he can have a role, 423 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: definitely a third down roll. Yea. And I like Herbert, 424 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 3: but I thought Johnson looked good. 425 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Ramondre Stevenson also got six targets. He had six 426 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: for sixty four. 427 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: They kind of shoved the Ezekiel all at down your 428 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: throat a little bit there. But I still think Stevenson'll be. 429 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: Just he did fumble, I believe which you get you no, oh, 430 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: Elliott did Elliott? Okay, I'll get you in Hick's doghouse 431 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: real quick, real quick. 432 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. I have no hesitation with Stevenson. Looked 433 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: like a professional offense finally with them at least. 434 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we kind of brushed over the quarterbacks here, but uh, 435 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: Jordan Love looked. 436 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: Fine good, yeah, yeah, fine. 437 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson ran like we expected him too. 438 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he looked like he belonged. 439 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: He didn't get banged up at the end of that game. 440 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 3: I think he took a big hit late. Yeah yeah, And. 441 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 2: That's going to be the danger with him. I don't 442 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 2: know that he knows because he he just hasn't played 443 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: enough football at this level or the higher levels that Hey, 444 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: these guys are fast, are going to catch you. 445 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: Even though you're the one of the best athletes on 446 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: the field, you're not far the best. 447 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, protect yourself. 448 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: That's a big thing, I know. 449 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: But other than that, I mean the quarterback you know, 450 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: when when Patrick Mahomes starts for two twenty six. Like, 451 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't a great one. 452 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 3: There's a lot of good guys going tonight too, but still, 453 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it was not a stellar fantasy week. 454 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: I didn't see anybody when Jordan Love might be on waiver. 455 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: Wires right now, he's worth picking up. 456 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, maybe Derek car didn't get drafted. 457 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: Possibly possibly, you know, trying to think what other quarterbacks 458 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 3: are relevant that way? 459 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm just you know, if you 460 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: look at the star running you know, the stars, Trevor 461 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: Lawrence two forty one and two touches, that's fine. 462 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: Sure, Burrow was awful. 463 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: Herbert Mahomes. Uh, these guys are all down justin fields, 464 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: they're all down the list of guys who had. 465 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: The big action and super high even though he won barely. 466 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they barely threw to throw. Yeah, he actually threw 467 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: for the fewish yards here, one hundred. 468 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: And forty three, one hundred and forty three. 469 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: Like you drafted Dak Prescott as your number one quarterback, 470 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: You're not happy right now. Lamar's they won. Lamar's at 471 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: one sixty nine. Deshaun Watson is at one fifty four. 472 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts at one seventy. This is not what you 473 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 2: drafted these guys for. 474 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: Fields wasn't tremendously Yeah, I'm trying to think some of 475 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: the how Herbert was fine but not great. We'll see tonight. 476 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: I mean everyone starting Allen of course and Rogers is. 477 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: It's a good week. You know when when Tua, Kirk, Cousins, 478 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, Mac Jones Derek Carr are the only four 479 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: guys over three hundred yards. 480 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 3: And very few people started most of those. 481 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: Guys, it's a it's a good reminder. Maybe maybe the 482 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: things are the wheels are turning back here. Don't draft quarterback. 483 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: Early maybe maybe, I mean, no, this is this is 484 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: it's a long season. 485 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 2: Don't panic about that. 486 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: But I just thought, I mean, Alan might put up 487 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: fifty points tonight. 488 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: Who knows, Yeah, well, I mean that would be didn't Yeah. 489 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: Lamar didn't. I mean, they're really highly drafted guys didn't 490 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: come through it. 491 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: They didn't put up those kind of numbers in Week one. 492 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that, see if that becomes a trend. 493 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 3: I mean, I know the league does not want scoring 494 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: to be down again, but it was a little low 495 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: and there was some weather, you know, across across the league. 496 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: Football weather's going to happen, gonna happen. Yeah, absolutely, Uh 497 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Allie. That was 498 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: the fantasy football focus. Hopefully your team got off to 499 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: a good start, Matt, and nice. Teams in our league 500 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 2: are both headed towards one to. 501 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 3: Oh even though I was about to say that, I 502 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 3: mean two leagues. Didn't score one hundred points in either, 503 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 3: but I'll probably want to know after both. I mean 504 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 3: it was you have to go crazy this week to 505 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: when you're fans. 506 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm well over one hundred points, all right, Yeah, I 507 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: can't remember who. I have to double check that because 508 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: I think I had that went off. I can't remember. 509 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: I should know. Oh kay, Calvin Ridley, who did well, Yeah, 510 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: didn't do much for me, but Dated Montgomery was fine. 511 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: Lawrence was fine. 512 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: It was okay, yeah, yeah. 513 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: The Commander's defense, Jake Elliott was I tried to get 514 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 2: rid of the kickers in our league and nobody wanted 515 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: to do it. So, okay, my kicker is going to 516 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 2: go out there and put up a big game. How 517 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: about that. 518 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: I'm always voting against And he. 519 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: Was a I drafted him after everybody else, like guys 520 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: were drafting kickers in the eighth round, in the ninth round, crazy, 521 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: like he's a kicker. Take a kicker from a good offense. 522 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I took dick Er the kicker and he was fine. 523 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what you do. Anyways, let's take a break. 524 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 525 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lollie. You're 526 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll 527 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: be back with more right after this. 528 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 529 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 530 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 531 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is Matt Williamson. This 532 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And shockingly enough, Matt, 533 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: the Chris Jones holdout is over. 534 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 3: How about that? Yeah, lose a game, not look great 535 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: on national TV. Everyone men's fences. I'm sure Chris is 536 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 3: tired of not getting that game check, as well as 537 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars a day that he's going to owe 538 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 3: all through camp too. So he's short a couple of bucks. 539 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: But I think he's probably pretty happy now. 540 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a one year deal though. 541 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 3: So really yeah, okay, one of your extension on top 542 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: of this one. I assume yes, he was due to 543 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: be up after this. 544 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: Year one year deal to end the hold out. I 545 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: guess they're they're saying, you know, if you're the chief, 546 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: you're like, hey, we're going to give you this money now. 547 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: They probably gave him enough money to take care of it, 548 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: the fines and everything to fit it under the cap, 549 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: and then they said we'll talk about it again after 550 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: the season's over. 551 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: That's what happened, Josh Jacobs, That's what happened to Barkley. Yeh, 552 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: it's kind of just we kind of agree to disagree. 553 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 3: Let's just make everyone happy to look a little better. 554 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: You get an extra million or something up front, and 555 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: you can invest it and get interest on it, and 556 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: you know, let's go play football. 557 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: Well what this does though, And I mentioned this to 558 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: you when we were texting back and forth Thursday night, 559 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: and you texted me that they, oh, they need to 560 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 2: get you know, talk talk to the Buccaneers about Mike Evans. 561 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: Mike Evans making thirteen million dollars this year base salary. 562 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: The only way that they could have gotten a Mike 563 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: Evans is if the holdout continued for Chris Jones, because 564 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: now his money doesn't every time he misses a game, 565 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: that money goes back on your cap. 566 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: Oh you add a million to Canah or whatever it is. 567 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, now that that's out the window. 568 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: You'd have to restructure. So I know they're up against it. 569 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it pulls something like that off, you know, 570 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: the restructure Mahomes or somebody. 571 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: But well, the problem is with Mahomes for them is 572 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: that because of the way that that contract was structured, 573 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: they really can't. There's not a lot of wiggle room. 574 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: There there just I know, he signed like a ten 575 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: year deal. I just assumed with such a long deal 576 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: you'll go to the bank of the home several times 577 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 3: or in that stretch. 578 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: And it's a ten year for four hundred and fifty 579 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: million dollars deal. 580 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 3: Which is turning into a bargain by the way. 581 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh, it's absolutely a bargain. Like this year, mahomes base 582 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: salary is only five point five million. So you're not restructured. 583 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not going to restructure a whole lot 584 00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: of that. 585 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 3: Like, there's not that. 586 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: Much there's you know, there's not a squeeze there. Yeah, 587 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: there's not much there to do next year, his base 588 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: salary two point five million. Really the year after that 589 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: two point five million. 590 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: Like it's set up to win, now, right, it's. 591 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: Set up to so A lot of times you see 592 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 2: some of these big contracts that are handed out, most 593 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: of the money will be in base salary because that's 594 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: no guaranteed. And then when you restructure the contract, you turn, 595 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: you take that that base salary and you say, okay, 596 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna give you this seventeen million dollar check now 597 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: if you're eighteen million, yeah, and we'll push that money 598 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: down into next year. 599 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 3: Well, they can't do that, you know, Like Ryan Tannehill's 600 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 3: make it is a big cap hit this year. The 601 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: Titans could have went to him in the off season, 602 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: and here's the key if they thought he was the 603 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: long term answer and said we'll move this money around, 604 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 3: go sign Nuke and somebody else bull for you and 605 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: lower your cap hit. Instead, they said, let's just bite 606 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 3: the bullet. Pay your salary this year because we don't 607 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: want you to be here much longer. 608 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the draft, the guy you know, looking at Mahomes 609 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: cap hit this year, it's only thirty nine six, which 610 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: is great. Yeah, next year it jumps to forty six, 611 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: basically forty six to seven. But again, his base salary 612 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: is only two point five million because they gave him 613 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: a big signing bonus when he signed that thing, instead 614 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: of turning, instead of doing what the Steelers do with 615 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: these and say, Okay, we're gonna give you a four year, 616 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: eighty million dollar deal. Uh, but it's a twenty million 617 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: dollars signing bonus. So sixty million of that is your 618 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: is your is your base salary? And then we can 619 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: we can you know, if we need to create money, 620 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: we can create money down the road. 621 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 3: They could go to Hayward or watch yeah those guys 622 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: and make more money. 623 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they just it doesn't They can't really 624 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: do that with the Chiefs until after twenty twenty six. 625 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: And even then his base salary jumps up. 626 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: To ten million. 627 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: That's still not that much wiggle It's it's not enough 628 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: wiggle room to say, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna we're 629 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: gonna create nine million dollars in cap space by moving 630 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: some and it's not even really nine million, it's like eight. 631 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: And meanwhile, for Mahomes he got a huge signing bonus 632 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: check that he invests in turn. 633 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: Off sitting in the bank right now, and yeah. 634 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 3: Turn into more and more. So in terms of what 635 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: he makes ap y, it's not that great, right, Yeah, 636 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: especially by today's quarterback standard. 637 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, by today's deals, nothing at all. So, you know, 638 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: does he come back after this year Let's say they 639 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: go to the good Let's say they go back to 640 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: the Super bowlgain, he goes, Hey, we're paying all these 641 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: other guys, how about me? 642 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 3: They could go and fifteen. 643 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: Now he's got he's got commercials and things of that nature. 644 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: That's where that stuff comes into play. I have no 645 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: idea how much money Patrick Mahomes actually takes home every year. 646 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's probably over one hundred million dollars. 647 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: I mean, of course he's fine, but he's underpaid by 648 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 3: NFL standard, right, Kelsey's even worse. Yeah, I mean, if 649 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: you talk about just receivers, I mean, yes, he's got 650 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 3: a high tight end contract, but if you compare him 651 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 3: to you know, the other stars, the best pass catchers 652 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 3: in the league, he's vastly underpaid. Yeah. 653 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: We mentioned those Steeler injuries, the Ravens. Today's John Harbaugh 654 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 2: saying they're not going to add a running back after 655 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: losing JK. Dobbins. I don't think they can. I don't 656 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: think they can afford. 657 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: It, to be quite, you can't. I don't know what 658 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: kind of deals they could restructure. Maybe a guy like 659 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: Stanley Off off my head, But. 660 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: But do you want to Yeah, do you want to 661 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 2: do that? 662 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: Do you want to be linked to him much longer? 663 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: Odell's only a one year deal. 664 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: Their estimated cap space according to spot rack right now 665 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: is four point five million. Okay, they would have to 666 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: move some stuff around to make that work. 667 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: They signed a big deal, yeah, mhm. 668 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: And they had they already had they could under They 669 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: had to restructure some stuff just to get under that count. 670 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: That's why didn't. Yeah, they made some moves just to 671 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 2: get under the cap, just so they'd have the four 672 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: point five million going into the season, like they That's 673 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: why they weren't in the market when you know the 674 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: Steelers or you know after the first even a lot 675 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: of the latest round the cuts at the end of 676 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: the training camp, a guy like King, Yeah, they weren't. 677 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 2: They weren't in the market for that because they couldn't 678 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: afford it. 679 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: Couldn't afford him. Yeah, they're up against it. And right 680 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: now the Browns have a lot of money, but then 681 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: next year they're going to be. 682 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: Well I'm sure. I'm sure they want to take a 683 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: lot of that money and roll it over in the 684 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: next year as much as possible, just because now you're 685 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: looking at this going, Okay, is Jack Conklin going to 686 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: be in our long term plans? 687 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: No? Yeah, I thought he would be a cap cut 688 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: either way. 689 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: Now he definitely. 690 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: Now he's in, specially if Jones plays reasonably well. Yeah. 691 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 3: And the Bagels out to be tight too after the 692 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: Borough deal, right, I want to I don't know how 693 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: that affected that. 694 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: I haven't seen how the breakdown on that, I. 695 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: Mean, but I'm sure they're not real fluid. 696 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: We mentioned the Conklin injury. Uh, Eagles took some Yeah, 697 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: the linebacker, uh. 698 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: Kobe Dean. 699 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: N Kobe Dean is out a few weeks. 700 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, they were already finished that position they were 701 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: that was a problem area. It's going to be uh, 702 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: Zach Cunningham, I guess will be the main guy. 703 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, according to uh, just run through some of these 704 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: injuries here, I'd like to hear. According to uh the Falcon. 705 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: Cordero Patterson trending in the right direction according to Arthur Smith. 706 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: What that means, we'll see what he was inactive for 707 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: the open. Jeff Akuda also trending in the right direction. 708 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: He missed week one for that. Yeah, they this Raven's 709 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: injury list. JK. Dobbins done for the year. Ronnie Stanley 710 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: considered week to week, Tyler Linderbaum week to week. Marlon 711 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: Humphrey has a shot to play this week against the 712 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: Bengals after missing week one. A shot does not tell 713 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: me that, Yeah, and then Marcus Williams with the pictorial 714 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: muscle injury out for a while, but isn't considered season 715 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: ending out for like it's you're probably talking at least 716 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: a six week injury there. That's last year. 717 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: I don't say high end starters, but those guys are 718 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: all quality start, key starters. Yeah. 719 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: If they have to play the Bengals this week without 720 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: Ronnie Stanley and without Tyler Linderbaum. 721 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: That could be a long day for their offense. Oh yeah, yeah. 722 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: J C. 723 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: Horn with the hamstring injury for the Carolina Panthers. That's 724 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 2: that's been an ongoing issue with him since he came 725 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: into the league. 726 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: He's a really good player when he's out there, but 727 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: it's not enough. Yeah. 728 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: They did sign Chris Warmly to their practice Yeah, so 729 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: good for him. Ye, good, good guy. Looks like for 730 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: the Bengals, Joseph Asaiu mis Week one doing an ankle injury. 731 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: His day to day according to Zach Taylor, rotation guy 732 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: for them. Yeah, Greg Dolci set to have an m 733 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: r I. I thought that was on his leg today. 734 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: We'll see how that turns out. And then safety Cadence 735 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: Sterns expected to be out for the rest of the 736 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: season with the torn Patel attendon he suffered. Yeah, that's 737 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: a big blow for. 738 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: Their defense as well. 739 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones still being evaluated for that hamstring injury. According 740 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: to Matt Lafleur, Yeah, they were, they were courage He 741 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: was able to run off the field after the win. That, 742 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: you know, at least they didn't have to. 743 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: Go through the Yeah, through the tunnel. Then the party lot. 744 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: Kway Walker in concussion protocol for the Packers. He touched 745 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: on too, right, Yeah, that was did he get hurt 746 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: on that play? He kind of dove into the end 747 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: zone and they saw the highlights of that. H Jaln 748 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: Petray with the Texans released from the hospital after suffering 749 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: a bruised lung against the Ravens. 750 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: I knew there was something with him. I didn't like 751 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: go to the hospital stuff. 752 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: That's yeah. Yeah, that's a huge, huge player for them. 753 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: I mean he's kind of the key to their defense. 754 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's really smart, versatile. 755 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson has a knee and ankle soreness, but he 756 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: could have gone back into the game for the last 757 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: two plays, but we kept out for precautionary reason. According 758 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: to Shane Stikeen, uh Evan Hall for them could miss 759 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: some time with a knee injury. 760 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: Though I kind of liked dev Yeah, well, none of 761 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: their backs were great. 762 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. Brandon Schurf suffered an ankle sprain for the Jaguars 763 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: and to win over the Colts. 764 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: Too much shuffle on there. 765 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler Shatley would be the starter if Shurf isn't 766 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: able to play. They're paying Shurf a lot of and 767 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: the left tackles already out. Yeah, that could be an 768 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: issue around Accordney to Andy Reid, Travis Kelsey's knee injury 769 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: is progressing, but he offered no further update on that 770 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: on Monday. Boers can be painful. 771 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 3: I say, I don't think he's guaranteed to be back 772 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: next week. 773 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: No, there's nothing. I mean as those can linger for. 774 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: I think who wasn't had a bone bruise last year 775 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: and ended up missing two or three weeks because of it. 776 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: I can't it was some I think it was a 777 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: wide receiver and that's the that's the thing. 778 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: Like, it doesn't sound as bad as it is from 779 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: what I've been told. 780 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: Very painful. 781 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: It's very painful. 782 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Jacobe Myers remains in concussion protocol. According to 783 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels. Yeah, he just got crushed. I would expect 784 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: to find to come out of that. I think, yeah, big, big, fine. Uh. 785 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: The Vikings got banged up here, especially in their offensive line. 786 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: Garrett Bradberry with a back is day to day after 787 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: leaving Sunday's loss to the Buccaneers to Christian Darisaw with 788 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: an ankle is day to day as well. It's a 789 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: back for Garrett Bradbury and an ankle for Christian Darisaw. 790 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: That's one of the one of the strengths of their 791 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: team is their offensive line, and those might be the 792 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: two best guys. 793 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, those two, Yeah, they're really the three best. And 794 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 3: they didn't have any running games past week. 795 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Marcus Davenport, who was inactive for Week one with 796 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: an ankle injury, is day to day. 797 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 3: According to O'Connell, they invested I'm ready. 798 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: Uh. 799 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: Peyton Turner likely to have surgery on his turf toe injury. 800 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 2: According to Dennis Allen with the Saints. 801 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 3: It's another first round pick that just has never been 802 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: on the field or career has just gone nowhere. 803 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they didn't. They haven't had many picks. 804 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: And for a first round or not to work out 805 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: oversize the end, the kind guys they like, and he 806 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 3: just hasn't met a chance to do anything. Yeah, I think. Yeah. 807 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 2: Giants place kicker Graham Gano had X rays after getting 808 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 2: spiked in the calf, but the team isn't considering getting 809 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: another kicker at this point. Well, you have to score 810 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: some points to actually need your kid. You only get 811 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: the kick once. 812 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: Just a kick. Na. 813 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 2: Kobe Deans, as I said, expected to miss multiple weeks 814 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 2: with a foot injury, suffered and Sundays went over New England. 815 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: According to Dean Rapaport. 816 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 3: He hasn't been great, but they're counting on him. Yeah, 817 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: he was like the Green Dot every down guy. You know. 818 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 3: They brought in Jack and Cunningham because they weren't. 819 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: Happy with their linebacker, and then Jack retired. 820 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 3: Cunningham still there, but I mean he was on the 821 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 3: street for a while. Yeah. 822 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: The middle of the field could be an issue for 823 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles, who also lost James Bradberry, who's in 824 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: concussion protocol. So that is Uh. Devin Witherspoon with the 825 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: hamstring is a good chance at making his NFL debut 826 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: this Sunday in Detroit. We'll see. I mean they need him, 827 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,479 Speaker 2: especially against that Lions team. 828 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle had a tough day. He really didn't look 829 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: good and they like didn't have the ball at all 830 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 3: in the second half. I mean, I'm a little worried 831 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 3: about Seattle. 832 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tampa Bay, Elijah Cansei that calf injury still being evaluated. Uh, 833 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: he was questionable last week. We'll see what it is. 834 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: It's a calf injury I assume similar to what Burrow 835 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 2: was dealing with. And Burrow said yesterday that he wasn't. 836 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: Oh you know, you could you could see he was 837 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 3: favoring it. 838 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Washington Commanders are signing Jamison Crowder to their 839 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 2: active roster. He was on their practice squad, so obviously 840 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 2: the three. 841 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 3: Are pretty set. McLaurin played without issues. Yeah maybe, I mean, 842 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 3: he's an NFL receiver, he's been on the block. 843 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: I wonder if that somehow is like Crowder would do 844 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: some of the same things that the running back Gibson Gibson. Yeah, 845 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: maybe they're really unhappy with Gibson. 846 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: See this is speculation, but I heard a couple of 847 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 3: people say, if you're running back, needy, Gibson's an easy 848 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: guy to get because Washington would move on with them 849 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 3: his contracts up after the season. He's cheap, you know, 850 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: the Colts or Ravens could get him under their cappies 851 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: the league. And I still he's very good. 852 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: That's the problem. Cornerback Kwan Martin is in Koncussia protocol 853 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: for Commanders. 854 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so formerly Tavis. 855 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: He made a lot of plays in the preseason. 856 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 3: For the Yeah. I like him a lot. 857 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, but this is what's going to 858 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: be the problem with him is he throws his body 859 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 2: around with reckless abandon Yeah, you're not a real big guy, 860 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: but yeah, good, good football players. So we'll see, uh 861 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: but that's the injury rundown going into tonight's games. We'll 862 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 2: see they certainly did and uh well got a little 863 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 2: beaten up on the field and then on the scoreboard. 864 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 2: And in terms of yeah, so this is why you 865 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: had depth. You got to test that depth already. This 866 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 2: is what Mike Tomlin talked about. You can think you 867 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: have quality depth, but it's going to be tested and 868 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: then you find out. 869 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: And then they've become full time players. It's saying, oh, 870 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 3: he's a great third edge guy or whatever, and then 871 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 3: the moment you're out there snaw. Well. 872 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: One of the interesting things as yet. You know, so 873 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: I got when the Steelers and actives were announced before 874 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: the game, somebody immediately tweeted at me and said, why 875 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 2: isn't our money wats active? Like they were keeping seven 876 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: defensive linemen active. 877 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 3: He's going to be now, Yeah, I mean, is he tremendous? 878 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: Is he Cam Hayward? Of course not, but he's. 879 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 2: An NFL player. Yeah, I'm glad you have him. Absolutely, 880 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson, 881 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollie. We will take a break here. 882 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 2: We'll be back to finish up the show right after this. 883 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 884 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 885 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 886 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lolli. He is Matt Williamson and 887 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 2: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt, 888 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 2: he just mentioned a tweet that you got on Twitter 889 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: or X or on Twitter. 890 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 3: X or x Twitter. People know what I'm talking about. 891 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 2: I guess if you call it x twitter that would 892 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: be actually appropriate. No, but why is nobody calling it 893 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: that ex Twitter? That seems like the next that seems 894 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 2: like the move works on very many levels. 895 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 3: It just seems so weird. If it's like I got 896 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: an X today, Yeah that's that mean? Yeah take that 897 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: a lot of ways. 898 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 2: A lot of different ways. Yeah, so I'm much start 899 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: calling it ex Twitter. 900 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 3: But I'm sure you've gotten similar X tweets? Is this one? 901 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: And the question was does Matt Cannon that have one 902 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 2: more game to uh. 903 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: Something along his lines? I've gotten many of them, but 904 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: the paraphrase is, yeah, how much long? What's his over under? 905 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 3: About a game left until he gets fired? 906 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 2: Like oh boy, Yeah, that's not happening, folks. No, the 907 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: Steelers do not replace coaches in the middle of a season. 908 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: It said it last year, I'm gonna say it repeated 909 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 2: again this year. 910 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 3: Evidence that that that's a trend. 911 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: Right ever, like it doesn't happen, and so, you know, 912 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 2: I think what you want, you know, the forty nine 913 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: Ers and Steelers. So the Steelers came out first, first 914 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 2: play the game was a yard completion over the middle 915 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 2: for six six yard game to George Pickens. Then they 916 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: run the shovel pass to Calvin Austin that goes for 917 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 2: no game because it wasn't a loss of one because 918 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: it wasn't blocked well. And then picking Pickett throws behind 919 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: the receiver on third down. They forty nine Ers come out, 920 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: run the same almost the same thing. 921 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: Who plays basically, they're. 922 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 2: Exactly the same. Play a little pass over the little 923 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 2: hook over the middle for a five yard game. Then 924 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 2: they run their end around it gets three. 925 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 3: Then they you know, one's a genius and one's yeah awful, 926 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 3: Yeah right exactly. I don't know. I mean, frankly, I 927 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 3: am not going to judge middle of the field passing 928 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 3: in this game. 929 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: Nice. We said that last week, any of it like 930 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 2: this is. 931 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: The worst team the league to throw over the middle against, 932 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: without question. And frankly, I saw a lot of open 933 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 3: receivers in that game. Yeah, a lot of open receivers. 934 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 3: And to show them up, you know, showing favorites or whatever, 935 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 3: Kenny missed him. Kenny didn't play well. 936 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 2: He did not play well. The bottom line, he was 937 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: not the guy. Matt Cannona was not the guy missing receivers, 938 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 2: no open receivers by several yards. 939 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: I mentioned this. I'm working on an article of who 940 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 3: played better than you think. All the wide receivers are 941 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 3: on the list, basically, I mean especially Deontay he was 942 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 3: open like crazy. I thought Austin came in and played well. 943 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 3: I thought Robinson did enough, you know, when it was productive. 944 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 3: Not on the list is the quarterback. 945 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when your quarterback plays bad, they're that important. Yeah, 946 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 2: that's what happens. You get smoked. Yeah, when your quarterback 947 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 2: doesn't play well. You missed a lot of open guys. 948 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 2: And there was times where he force balls that he 949 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: shouldn't have. You know, I will say this, So there 950 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: were games when Ben Roethlisberger would have a game like this, 951 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: right every quarterback out. Do you think Joe Burrow's happy 952 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: with how he played? He was worse? 953 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 3: Ye? Of course. 954 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 2: They were probably at least six or seven quarterbacks Sunday 955 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: who were worse than Kenny Pickett. 956 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 3: Oh, I think so. I mean, folks, go check my 957 00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 3: ex twitter feed because I put out I just retweeted something. 958 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 3: It was the Everyone's EPA after one game, and at 959 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 3: the top of the list was Tua, Jordan Love, Stafford Garoppolo. 960 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 3: At the bottom of the list was Burrow, Daniel Jones, 961 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs. 962 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: You will see a bad, bad game play. Jones was awful. 963 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: Lawrence and strouder behind Pickett too. Yeah, I didn't think 964 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: Lawrence was particularly bad. That was kind of shocked that 965 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 3: he was twenty seventh out of thirty, But Pickett was 966 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 3: twenty fifth out of thirty. I'm a little shocked that 967 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 3: he was that high. To be honest, he played a 968 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 3: very bad game. 969 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but I. 970 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 3: Was talking about this with somebody else on the air. 971 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 3: I'm not that worried. No, I'm not. 972 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: That's not what That's not what he looked like throughout 973 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 2: training camp. That's not what he looked like the in 974 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: the off season. 975 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 3: Not like, boy, he's got all these If it was 976 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson's accuracy and that was his first game, I'd 977 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 3: be like, maybe this guy can't complete pass with the NFL. 978 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, but accuracy with Pickett does not worry me, 979 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 3: and I think he'll rebound. 980 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, what would your move be to replace Cam 981 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: Hayward if that turns out to be, let's say a 982 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 2: four week thing or a five week thing. 983 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 3: First off, I thought le Al flashed despite fighting a 984 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 3: bad elbow, and he's been a flash. But I use 985 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 3: that word a lot with him, you know, like I 986 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 3: want to see consistency, but he does splash here and there. Frankly, 987 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 3: I thought louder Milk was really bad, especially in the 988 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,439 Speaker 3: run game. I thought he was really bad, played high, 989 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 3: got pushed around. I would make Benton it's close to 990 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 3: in every snap player as I possibly can't. I think 991 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: he's a star in the making. It's time to get 992 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 3: him out there. Unfortunately, sometimes it takes something like this 993 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 3: before someone gets the opportunity. And I'm not saying he's 994 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: gonna Wally Pip, you know, Cam Hayward, but he might 995 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 3: Wallypip Adam's and Ogunjobi somebody. He needs to be out 996 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 3: there in a lot. 997 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think he needs to to get 998 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 2: more playing time. And you know, again again, this is 999 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 2: a game against the Browns this week, and they're going 1000 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: to test that run game without cam Ayward. 1001 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: Sure, and their interior line is really good. I mean 1002 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: everyone talks about their guards. I mean, of course that's 1003 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 3: what they're gonna do. And whether it's even designed wats 1004 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 3: and runs, still, the foundation of their football team is 1005 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 3: running the ball and they have a great back that's 1006 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 3: hard to get on the ground. 1007 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 1008 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 3: Now that Benton pushed the pocket well too when he 1009 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: was out. 1010 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 2: There, Yeah, he did some good things. So I want 1011 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: to see more of that, yeah for sure. And offensively, 1012 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 2: I think, you know. 1013 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: If Deontay missed his time and Austin's just going to 1014 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 3: walk right into that role. Yeah, they already told us. 1015 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that's that's going to be. And 1016 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 2: I think this week, despite what Cleveland did against Cincinnati 1017 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,959 Speaker 2: last week, you know, they blitzed. 1018 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 3: A lot, they blitzed a ton. 1019 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like thirty plus percent of the time. 1020 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 3: I can find it. But it's Burrow without the numbers. 1021 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,479 Speaker 3: The numbers probably bore people. 1022 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: Typically, he didn't blitz. 1023 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 3: Burrow was the least blitz quarterback in the whole league 1024 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 3: last year, and they blitzed them like forty percent of 1025 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 3: the time, which is like double their usual blitz rates. 1026 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 3: A new new defensive coordinator. They're just really aggressive, you know. 1027 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 3: And they smelled blood in the water and they came 1028 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 3: after him with you know, four or five, five and 1029 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 3: six blitzer is a lot. Yeah, so I assume he'll 1030 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 3: do the same to Kenny. Better be ready for it. 1031 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be ready for it. That means he'll 1032 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: be getting the ball out quickly, I would think, and 1033 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: you're don't have to block stuff up. We'll see what 1034 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: happens with chukes a quarter fours a week goes on. Yeah, 1035 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 2: you know, uh, if he can't play, you know, I 1036 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: would suggest the plans Roderi Jones at left tackle and 1037 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: Dan Moore right tackle. I don't love that coming out 1038 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 2: of the gate this early. 1039 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 3: No, I don't either against Garrett and yeah, all their dudes, 1040 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 3: and he was at Arry Smith and you know they're humming. 1041 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 2: Up the team that's gonna blitz a lot. 1042 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 3: Like and then you get Crosby the next week. Yeah, 1043 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 3: I just thought of this too. It's side note. I mean, 1044 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 3: I think we've brought this up a couple of times. 1045 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: They get Bosa, Garrett Crosby the first three games, but 1046 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 3: the defense gets McCaffrey and Chubbed like these are the 1047 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 3: best best guys at their position, then Jacob and then 1048 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 3: Jacob's right, he was the lead rusher are think in 1049 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 3: the league last year, right, So this is gonna be 1050 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 3: interesting challenges from those two positions on both sides of 1051 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 3: the ball. Three weeks in a row. 1052 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,439 Speaker 2: Gotta score points. Yeah, but the quarterback's gotta play better. 1053 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 2: And that does not mean that Matt Cannery gets fired. 1054 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,959 Speaker 2: You know, it's on the quarterback. He's got to play better. 1055 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 2: I expect him to do so, and I expect this 1056 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: offense to look better moving forward. 1057 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 3: I mean, the whole team, besides Watt didn't play well 1058 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 3: enough to win. But the quarterback is always be in 1059 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 3: the spotlight. 1060 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: Pretty high on that list. 1061 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just because we all love him and he's 1062 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 3: from pitt doesn't mean he gets a pass. 1063 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. But that's going to do it for 1064 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 2: our show today. So for my partner, Matt Williamson, I'm 1065 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: Dale Lallie. We appreciate you listening to this edition of 1066 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 2: The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.