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Speaker 4: They're followers of the base, and they've been doing this

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Speaker 2: I think that there are doomsdayers for sure over there

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Speaker 2: What I'm worried about is the general, and they need

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Speaker 2: and Ditman, the politics of this. You're criminalizing a contested election.

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Speaker 5: A hurricane never should have happened. He couldn't corroborate a

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Speaker 6: What's happening in Georgia is criminalizing contesting an election. Stacy

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Speaker 6: The way you fix this is to elect a Republican president,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was a great president. I thought he

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Speaker 2: I think the point he's making their spot on like

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Speaker 2: But that's the job of the Trump team to remind

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Speaker 2: Every day there are two different economies that are growing

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Speaker 2: House and Senate Republicans are teaming up to crack down

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Speaker 2: on the FTC for destroying documents related to a congressional probe.

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Speaker 1: This breaking overnight.

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Speaker 2: Top Republicans on Capitol Hill are now vowing a major

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Speaker 2: crackdown on the Federal Trade Commission for allegedly destroying documents

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Speaker 2: related to a congressional probe. By deleting the documents, the

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Speaker 2: FTC likely violated federal law. It also impeded Congressional oversight

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Speaker 2: of the FTC recent unprecedented actions, including its proposed rule

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Speaker 2: banning non compete clauses. That's what Senator Ted Cruz, a

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Speaker 2: Texas Republican and ranking member on the Senate Commerce, Science,

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Speaker 2: and Transportation Committee wrote in a letter to the FTC chairman,

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Speaker 2: which was dated for Thursday, and it was released to

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Speaker 2: the public. Congress and the public deserve an exclamation of

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Speaker 2: why the FTC improperly destroyed records, what records it improperly destroyed,

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Speaker 2: and what steps will be taken to ensure it never

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Speaker 2: happens again, is what CRUs written a statement. He was

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Speaker 2: also joined by Representative Jim Jordan, an Ohio Republican and

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Speaker 2: chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and Representative James comer At,

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Republican, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight

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Speaker 2: and Accountability. The letter by Republican legislators comes about a

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Speaker 2: year and a half after the FTC's in house watchdog,

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Speaker 2: the Office of Inspector General, found multiple failures and the

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Speaker 2: FTC's record keeping process. How convenient right. The Republicans are

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Speaker 2: now alleging that the FTC in properly deleted documents on

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Speaker 2: purpose that Jordan had requested in relation to the agency's

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Speaker 2: new rule that would ban private sector employees from requiring

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Speaker 2: workers to sign non compete clauses that restrict them from

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Speaker 2: working for competitors or starting new businesses that offer similar

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Speaker 2: services for.

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Speaker 1: A period of time.

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Speaker 2: Now, this obviously is an important case because this could

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Speaker 2: impact you if you've ever sent noncompete. Jordan in February

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Speaker 2: said the rule would wipe out roughly thirty million existing

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Speaker 2: non compete agreements, and while the FTC highlights estimated benefit

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Speaker 2: of the rule, it made little effort to qualify the costs.

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Speaker 1: According to Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Jordan said the rule exceeds the Commission's delegated authority and

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Speaker 2: impose a top down, one size fits all approach that

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Speaker 2: violates basic American principles of federalism and free markets. Jordan

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Speaker 2: saw at the time, among other things, documents related to

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Speaker 2: the litigation risk due to rule making, the economic analysis

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Speaker 2: related to the rule making, and the communications between the

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Speaker 2: FTC and third parties about the rule making in May,

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Speaker 2: the FTC just happened to inform the House Judiciary Committee

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Speaker 2: staff that it had deleted material likely responsive to the

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Speaker 2: committee's requests, including records of employees on detail from the

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Speaker 2: Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, who led all of the FTC's

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Speaker 2: rule making. This is where the cover up comes in.

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Speaker 2: The FDC's deletion of documents responsive to a congressional inquiry

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Speaker 2: underscores the OIG's conclusion in twenty twenty two that the

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Speaker 2: FTC has not prioritized records management nor embedded it as

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Speaker 2: a value of the agency's culture. Why did they do

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Speaker 2: this because they didn't want you to see what they

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Speaker 2: were actually doing. Moreover, it suggests that the agency is

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Speaker 2: not committed to complying with the law, and that it

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Speaker 2: may continue to elete records that are relevant to ongoing investigations.

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Speaker 2: This is not how a federal agency should be run,

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Speaker 2: they wrote. The GOP Trio notes in their letter that

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Speaker 2: the federal law imposes important record keeping equipment on the FTC.

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Speaker 2: The Federal Records Act requires the head of every federal

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Speaker 2: agency to make and preserve records about the agency functions, policies, decisions, procedures,

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Speaker 2: and essential transactions. It further requires agency heads to establish

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Speaker 2: and maintain a record scheduling process, pursuant to which the

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Speaker 2: agency must identify the records. It has, determine how long

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Speaker 2: each of the records is deemed valuable, and when there

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Speaker 2: is no longer a need for them at the agency

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Speaker 2: request authority to either legally destroy the records or transfer

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Speaker 2: them to the National Archives. So, in translation, I want

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Speaker 2: you to understand what they did here. They said, hey,

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Speaker 2: we want these documents, and in response to asking for

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Speaker 2: those documents, they stonewalled for a little over a year,

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Speaker 2: and then they said, oh, whoops, are bad. We don't

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Speaker 2: know what to do, like our bad, Like just sorry,

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Speaker 2: are bad? We just lost these documents. Well we didn't

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Speaker 2: really lose them, Okay. What we did was we destroyed them.

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Speaker 2: So the documents that we needed you destroyed. Yep, that's

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Speaker 2: exactly what we did. I just want you to think

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Speaker 2: about that and what that actually means.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: I think incredibly shocking that this is now what this

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Speaker 2: government does when they're asked a question and or they're

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Speaker 2: asked about something that clearly is extremely important. If they

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Speaker 2: know they're caught, they're then saying, well, we'll just destroy

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Speaker 2: the records. Now, if you and I do that in theory,

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Speaker 2: right when they're officially, if someone from a government agency

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Speaker 2: is asking for them, what are they gonna do. I

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Speaker 2: think you guys know what's gonna happen. They're gonna come

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Speaker 2: after us to the way of the government. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: charge us with crimes. If you did this after the

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Speaker 2: government asked for your records for anything that they were

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Speaker 2: dealing with, it would be game on and you would

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Speaker 2: be probably prosecuted. But the people that run the FTC,

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Speaker 2: and we're talking about millions of documents, they just decided

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Speaker 2: to ask screw it, We're just gonna delete them. Then

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Speaker 2: you guys won't ever be able to see what we

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Speaker 2: were actually doing, and that means that we win, you

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Speaker 2: guys lose. That's pretty much the easiest way that I

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Speaker 2: can explain how this went down and what happened. This

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Speaker 2: was done deliberately on purpose, right, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 2: that's this was This was clearly a very calculated decision.

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Speaker 2: This was a decision that they said was worth the risk,

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Speaker 2: and they basically said, we don't believe we're going to

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Speaker 2: get in trouble for this. We might get our hands slapped,

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Speaker 2: But the Democrats will cover for us because what we're

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Speaker 2: doing now, we can do whatever the hell we want

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Speaker 2: to do whenever we want to do it, and we

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Speaker 2: feel good about it. And that's really what's happened here

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Speaker 2: like that, That's that's how this has gone down. This

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Speaker 2: is also you may say, well, I don't really care

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Speaker 2: that much, this doesn't affect me. It's a pattern, and

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Speaker 2: that's why you should care. It is a pattern of

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Speaker 2: corruption that is consistent with this administration and with anything

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Speaker 2: they don't want you to see. They just say, all right,

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Speaker 2: we're just gonna delete it, right, We're just We're just

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Speaker 2: we're just gonna get rid of it.

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Speaker 1: By deleting it, and.

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Speaker 2: None of you are gonna see it, like none of

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Speaker 2: you are gonna be able to witness what we did

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Speaker 2: in the past.

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Speaker 1: We won't let that happen.

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