WEBVTT - The Alleged Far-Left Bombing Plot

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<v Speaker 1>Zone Media, welcome to it could happen here. I'm Garrison Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>Last September, President Trump announced a federal crackdown on left

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<v Speaker 1>wing radical terrorism by signing an executive order dubbing quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote Antifa a domestic terrorist organization and directing federal law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement to investigate potential federal crimes related to political violence,

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<v Speaker 1>especially stemming from quote anti Americanism, anti capitalism, anti Christianity,

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<v Speaker 1>and hostility towards traditional American values. Last month, the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>claimed one of their first big victories against so called

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<v Speaker 1>Antifa terrorism since Trump's National Security directive. On December twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI arrested four people in southern California, who the

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<v Speaker 1>government claims are members of a far left group called

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<v Speaker 1>the Turtle I Liberation Front. The criminal complaint, signed on

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<v Speaker 1>December thirteenth by an FBI agent working at the Joint

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<v Speaker 1>Terrorism Task Force office in Los Angeles, alleges that these

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<v Speaker 1>four individuals conspired to construct and detonate a series of

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<v Speaker 1>bombs in southern California on New Year's Eve twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>The four defendants were first charged with conspiracy and possession

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<v Speaker 1>of an unregistered destructive device, then On December twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>a federal grand jury indicted them on additional terrorism related felonies.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a brief clip from the FBI press conference announcing

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<v Speaker 1>the arrests where First Assistant US Attorney Bill Assley compared

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<v Speaker 1>the Turtle Island Liberation Front group to Antifa.

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<v Speaker 2>This case is another reminder about the dangers that radicalized

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<v Speaker 2>Antifa like groups posed to people, public safety, and the

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<v Speaker 2>rule of law.

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<v Speaker 1>In court documents, the defendants are not just referred to

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<v Speaker 1>by their legal names, but also by their direct action

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<v Speaker 1>or signal code names. Audrey Eileen Carrol aka Asanach or

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<v Speaker 1>Black Moon, Zachary Aaron Paige aka ak Ash Carrington or

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<v Speaker 1>Cuthulhu's Daughter, Dante Garfield aka Nomad, and Tina Laie aka

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<v Speaker 1>kickwere The criminal complaint states that after forming the initial

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<v Speaker 1>bombing plan, Carol and Page recruited additional co conspirators who

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<v Speaker 1>participated in further planning meetings and helped procure bomb making materials.

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<v Speaker 1>On December twelfth, the four defendants traveled to a remote

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<v Speaker 1>location in the Mohafi Desert with the alleged intent to

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<v Speaker 1>build and test explosive devices. An undercover FBI agent was

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<v Speaker 1>present at the testing site and a surveillance plane observed

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<v Speaker 1>from overhead. Before the defendants completed assembling a functional explosive device,

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI arrested Carol, Paige Garfield, and Lie. From the

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<v Speaker 1>court documents that are currently available, the earliest allusion to

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<v Speaker 1>this New Year's Eve bombing plot is in a signal

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<v Speaker 1>message dated November twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, allegedly from

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<v Speaker 1>one of the defendants, Audrey Eileen Carroll, to whom they

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<v Speaker 1>believed was a genuine co conspirator, but was actually a

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<v Speaker 1>confidential human source working with law enforcement. According to the indictment,

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<v Speaker 1>this alleged signal message from Carol stated that she and

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote four comrades were planning to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>desert from December eleventh to December thirteenth, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>to quote test the items we are going to use

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<v Speaker 1>for those party plans unquote. This message references pre existing

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote party plans, which any prior origin of has

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<v Speaker 1>not yet been elaborated on. This confidential human source appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be an individual embedded in the Los Angeles activist scene.

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<v Speaker 1>The criminal complaint describes them like this quote. The confidential

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<v Speaker 1>human Source is cooperating with law enforcement and is a

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<v Speaker 1>validated and vetted source. The Confidential Human Source has been

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<v Speaker 1>a reliable source of information since in or around August

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. The Confidential Human Source is cooperating for

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<v Speaker 1>financial compensation. The Confidential Human Source does not have any

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<v Speaker 1>criminal history. The Confidential Human Source provided past reliable reporting

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<v Speaker 1>on other cases and has provided reliable reporting in this case. Unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>The quote unquote Turtle Island Liberation Front appears to be

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<v Speaker 1>a relatively new group with a social media footprint that

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<v Speaker 1>only goes back to July twenty twenty five. The Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>bio for their LA chapter reads quote liberation through decolonization

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<v Speaker 1>and tribal sovereignty unquote. Their most recent post, from December twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>the day of the arrests, is promoting a quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>Palestine pop up market in Culver City. A post from

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<v Speaker 1>November twenty eighth reads quote if they hurt you, they

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<v Speaker 1>hurt me too. Our destinies are intertwined. Liberation for one

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<v Speaker 1>must mean liberation for all. The empire must fall, and

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<v Speaker 1>from within the belly of the beast, we must be

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<v Speaker 1>the ones to dismantle it. Revolution is the only way

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<v Speaker 1>stop quote unquote peaceful protesting, rise up, fight back. We

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<v Speaker 1>are not outnumbered. They are organize and be ready unquote.

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<v Speaker 1>As news of this group and the bombing plot spread

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<v Speaker 1>around the internet last month among the left, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of skepticism pointed at the authenticity of the

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<v Speaker 1>story and the Turtle Island Liberation Front group itself, with

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<v Speaker 1>questions pointed at its name and some language used in

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<v Speaker 1>their social media posts. The name derives from a term

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<v Speaker 1>that some Indigenous tribes used to describe the North American

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<v Speaker 1>continent and is common language among a certain sect of

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote land back activists. The Liberation Front moniker has

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<v Speaker 1>been used by a collection of direct action based groups,

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<v Speaker 1>most notably the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation

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<v Speaker 1>Front in the two thousands. Though the Turtle Island Liberation

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<v Speaker 1>Front group doesn't seem to have been a formalized activist

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<v Speaker 1>group for very long, there were genuine people involved with

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<v Speaker 1>this group, as evidenced by there being for defendants in

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<v Speaker 1>this criminal case. The Turtle Island Liberation Front Instagram account

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<v Speaker 1>was run by one of these defendants, and the language

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<v Speaker 1>used in their posts is not uncommon among the quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote antium perialists whose ideology is grown an influence among

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<v Speaker 1>the American left during Israel's genocide in Palestine, and though

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<v Speaker 1>both an FBI informant and an undercover employee played a

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<v Speaker 1>part in this investigation, the group seems to have contained

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<v Speaker 1>a collection of genuine individuals who have participated in the

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<v Speaker 1>wider Los Angeles activist scene and especially anti Israel protests.

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<v Speaker 1>The indictment and criminal complaint outlined the material steps that

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<v Speaker 1>defendants allegedly took to detail the plans of this bombing

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<v Speaker 1>plot and procure materials to construct explosive devices without material

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<v Speaker 1>support from FBI sources or undercover employees. All the information

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<v Speaker 1>in the indictment and criminal complaint is alleged, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the defendants should be considered innocent until proven guilty. The

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<v Speaker 1>indictment claims that Carol set up an in person meeting

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<v Speaker 1>for November twenty six to discuss the bombing plot with

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<v Speaker 1>another alleged Turtle Island Liberation Front member, Zachary Aaron Page,

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<v Speaker 1>and the confidential human source, who were instructed to quote

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<v Speaker 1>where casual block, no devices, If you can't leave it

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<v Speaker 1>at home, have it turned off and wrapped in tinfoil.

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<v Speaker 1>Makeshift Faraday Bagot. During this in person meeting, Carol allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>distributed an eight page handwritten document titled Operation Midnight Sun,

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<v Speaker 1>outlining the plan for the bombing to both the Confidential

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<v Speaker 1>Human Source and co defendant Zachary Page. Carol allegedly retained

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<v Speaker 1>two to four additional copies of the handwritten plan. The

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<v Speaker 1>indictment says that Carol explained that the document was handwritten

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<v Speaker 1>because she quote did not want any traces of the

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<v Speaker 1>attack plan on a computer. After this meeting, Carol allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>sent an encrypted message to the confidential Human source about

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<v Speaker 1>the bomb testing camp out in the desert. Quote, this

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<v Speaker 1>trip is very spicy. We'll be testing the things we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make for December, like the things in the instructions

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<v Speaker 1>on that document I gave you. Testing first is important

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<v Speaker 1>so we know how well they work lol unquote. The

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<v Speaker 1>plan was for teams of four on the ground participants

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<v Speaker 1>to plant backpacks containing quote unquote complex pipe bombs or

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<v Speaker 1>IED's improvised closive devices outside of buildings at five locations,

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<v Speaker 1>targeting two US companies, and then simultaneously detonate the bombs

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<v Speaker 1>at midnight on New Year's Eve twenty twenty five. There

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<v Speaker 1>would be one off the ground member assisting the teams

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<v Speaker 1>remotely by listening to police scanners or stationed in a

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle in case quote an emergency getaway is needed unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>and one member of each on the ground team would

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<v Speaker 1>create graffiti of quote a red triangle and one message

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<v Speaker 1>of the teams, choosing on the sidewalk closest to the

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<v Speaker 1>building while the other three are placing the devices. The

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<v Speaker 1>indictment claims that the handwritten plan also instructed co conspirators

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<v Speaker 1>quote once you plant your IEDs, if there is any

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<v Speaker 1>time to safely do so, dump an accelerant around the premises,

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<v Speaker 1>such as gasoline for added effect. We want to do

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<v Speaker 1>as much damage as possible unquote. The plan identified five

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<v Speaker 1>target locations as quote unquote marks, with five more blank

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<v Speaker 1>slots captioned add more if enough comrades. The criminal complaint

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<v Speaker 1>states that these targets were quote property and facilities operated

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<v Speaker 1>by two separate companies that are used or engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>activities affecting interstate and foreign commerce unquote. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>quote from three sections of the criminal complaint that outline

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<v Speaker 1>some of the opsec or operational security precautions that are

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly included in this handwritten plan. Quote. The plan described

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<v Speaker 1>multiple operational security measures the co conspirators should take to

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<v Speaker 1>conceal their identities, such as the use of a burner

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<v Speaker 1>phone that would be disposed of after the bombings by

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<v Speaker 1>quote submerging it in a concrete brick after destroying the

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<v Speaker 1>sim and then disposing of the brick in a body

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<v Speaker 1>of water unquote. The target date of the operation, New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve, was identified as an opportune time because quote

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<v Speaker 1>fireworks will be going off at this time, so explosions

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<v Speaker 1>will be less likely to be noticed as immediately as

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<v Speaker 1>any normal day unquote. The plan emphasized that quote absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>no mistakes can be made unquote. The plans outline the

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<v Speaker 1>use of quote unquote black block over top of a

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<v Speaker 1>layer of quote gray slash casual block on top of

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<v Speaker 1>normal street clothes, and noted to keep hair very tightly concealed,

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<v Speaker 1>and to wear gloves for the purpose of avoidance of

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<v Speaker 1>leaving behind. DNA further instructed that participants should leave their

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<v Speaker 1>personal devices at home and to make sure the devices

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<v Speaker 1>were set up to stream a long movie during the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the attacks, as so to craft an alibi

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<v Speaker 1>or quote unquote plausible deniability by having it appear as

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<v Speaker 1>though the actor was actively using their devices. The plan

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<v Speaker 1>discussed pre operational surveillance of targets, identification of D block

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<v Speaker 1>or D clothing locations, and not leaving quote anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than the IEDs behind unquote as they could not quote

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<v Speaker 1>risk any evidence tracing back to us quote. The plan

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<v Speaker 1>also noted the benefit of placing a small pebble in

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<v Speaker 1>a shoe to alter natural gait to obfuscate their identification.

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<v Speaker 1>Instructions on how to purchase materials to construct a pipe

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<v Speaker 1>bomb suggested using cash only, purchasing in small quantities to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid suspicion, and splitting purchases amongst a team rather then individually.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to the plan of action and operational security tactics,

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<v Speaker 1>detailed instructions were provided on the components required to build

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<v Speaker 1>a pipe bomb, as well as how to create homemade gunpowder.

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<v Speaker 1>On December second, there was another in person meeting between

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<v Speaker 1>the law enforcement source, Carol and Page, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>two other co conspirators, to go over the plan. They

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<v Speaker 1>met again on December seventh to review the bombing plot

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<v Speaker 1>and allegedly discussed intent to conduct future attacks against federal offices.

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<v Speaker 1>This meeting was also attended by an undercover FBI employee

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<v Speaker 1>who was being recruited to join the operation. The undercover

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<v Speaker 1>asked Carol about the black powder instructions in the handwritten

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<v Speaker 1>plan and responded that she conducted the research herself and

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<v Speaker 1>discussed wanting to test several different types of bomb to

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<v Speaker 1>determine which could quote unquote completely pulverize their assigned building

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<v Speaker 1>on New Year's Eve. To quote the criminal complaint quote,

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<v Speaker 1>Carol stated that she had acquired some components thirteen PVC

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<v Speaker 1>pipes and that she had bought potassium nitrate on Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>using a burner account that was scheduled to be delivered

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<v Speaker 1>on December eleventh, twenty twenty five. During this in person meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>Carol confirmed that she operated the Turnal Island Deliberation front

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram account and that she had met a co conspirator

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<v Speaker 1>through said Instagram account. The indictment claims that Carol told

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<v Speaker 1>co conspirators in this meeting quote what we are about

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<v Speaker 1>to do, that's gonna be like a Luigi level situation unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it was time for America to fall, and

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<v Speaker 1>that America falling will make Israel fall According to the indictment,

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<v Speaker 1>during this December seventh meeting, Page told attendees again, including

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<v Speaker 1>an undercover FBI employee, that they were doing everything quote

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<v Speaker 1>to be as clean as possible because one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>percent the FBI is gonna be like on that shit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we all know what we're getting into unquote in person,

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<v Speaker 1>Page outlined some of the operational security precautions to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement detection, like covering shoes with socks to cover

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<v Speaker 1>shoe prints, and burning shoes after the bombing. Page also

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly asked attendees if they would like to receive firearms

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<v Speaker 1>training from a group that held a training about a

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<v Speaker 1>month prior, and Carol said that she had a contact

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<v Speaker 1>who could obtain unregistered ars. This wasn't the first time

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<v Speaker 1>Turtle Island Liberation Front members allegedly brought up firearms. The

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<v Speaker 1>indictment claims that on quote December third, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>defendant Page, using an encrypted messaging application, asked the confidential

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<v Speaker 1>human source if the human source was interested in receiving

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<v Speaker 1>fire arms training. Explaining his plan to shoot ICE officials.

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<v Speaker 1>In a voice message to the confidential human source, defendant

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<v Speaker 1>Page stated, quote, I just had this day dream. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, we're just patrolling or whatever, and we're strapped right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we see ICE trying to pull up on someone

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<v Speaker 1>or a group of people, and we just like roll

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<v Speaker 1>up on them, like strapped up, and we're like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>get the fuck out of here. They're gonna get shot

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<v Speaker 1>if they try to do anything like we shoot first,

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<v Speaker 1>we ask questions later. That's the policy. I told that

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<v Speaker 1>too in Brackets defendant Carol. Defendant Carol knows all about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brackets Defendant Carol was like, yeah, let's fucking do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, seriously, that is what's needed. Maybe if

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<v Speaker 1>ICE agents they're like, wait, I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>fucking shot right now, they ain't gonna do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they still try to do it, well, guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the dirt, motherfucker unquote. After sending this voice message,

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<v Speaker 1>Page told the confidential human source quote, let me know

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<v Speaker 1>when you listen so I can delete it. Unquote. Small

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<v Speaker 1>lines like that are part of what I find really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in this Turtle Island Liberation front case, because the

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<v Speaker 1>indictment and criminal complaint are just full of the defendants

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<v Speaker 1>recommending these security folklore practices like setting up your phone

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<v Speaker 1>to stream a long movie to create an alibi, and

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<v Speaker 1>placing a small pebble in your shoe to alter your gait,

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<v Speaker 1>deleting these messages after you send them, which they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do, all while working with not just an FBI

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<v Speaker 1>informant but also an undercover agent. During the December seventh

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<v Speaker 1>in person meeting, Page and Carol discussed plans for future

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<v Speaker 1>attacks after this New Year's Eve bombing plot, specifically a

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<v Speaker 1>plan to target ICE agents and vehicles with pipe bombs

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<v Speaker 1>starting around January or February twenty twenty six, with Carol

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<v Speaker 1>noting in the meeting quote that would definitely take some

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<v Speaker 1>of them out and would probably scare the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>them unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Following this meeting, more co conspirators, including an undercover FBI employee,

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<v Speaker 1>were added to the signal group chat called the Order

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<v Speaker 1>of the Black Lotus, which Carol described as the radical

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<v Speaker 1>faction of the Turtle Island Liberation Front and which Page

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<v Speaker 1>described as quote unquote super underground. The indictment contains some

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<v Speaker 1>alleged messages sent to an encrypted group chat. It's unclear

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<v Speaker 1>this is specifically the Order of the Black Lotus chat

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<v Speaker 1>or another Turtle Island Liberation Front related chat. But I

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<v Speaker 1>will read through some of these messages. Quote Page messaged

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<v Speaker 1>co conspirators, including defendants Carol and Garfield quote death to Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>death to the USA, death to colonizers, death to settler colonialism.

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<v Speaker 1>In response to defendant Pages message, defendant Carol stated, quote

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<v Speaker 1>death to them all, burn it all down, three burning

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<v Speaker 1>heart emojis. Unquote. Defendant Carol messaged co conspirators, including Page

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<v Speaker 1>and Garfield, quote I identify as a terrorist and I

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<v Speaker 1>am a Hamas fangirl. Unquote. Garfield messaged co conspirators, including

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<v Speaker 1>Carol and Paige quote I am here to destroy Zionism

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<v Speaker 1>by any means necessary. Real activism equals destroying Zionism by

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<v Speaker 1>any means necessary, even if it's risky. If you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>willing to die for or lose your freedom, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>just another toy in the machine. Unquote. Carol messaged quote

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<v Speaker 1>glory to the martyr's death to Israel, three salute emojis.

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<v Speaker 1>And on December third, defendant Carol told the Confidential Humans

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<v Speaker 1>source quote these fucking SJW peaceful protest libs are insane,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's wild to me that I've seen state violence

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<v Speaker 1>enacted on some people like that, and they still think

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<v Speaker 1>they can keep going with peaceful protest bs and indirect

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<v Speaker 1>roots unquote. Defendants used the BLACKLOADUS group chat what Carol

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<v Speaker 1>described as quote our group for everything radical unquote, to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss sourcing bomb making parts including cotton string and PVC pipes,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as coordinates for the explosives testing site in

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<v Speaker 1>the desert quote where we will set up camp and

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<v Speaker 1>where we will test unquote. On the afternoon of December tenth,

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<v Speaker 1>Page messaged the group about just having acquired two parts

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<v Speaker 1>for the bomb recipe and that starter would be picked

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<v Speaker 1>up later that day. Page was under FBI surveillance around

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<v Speaker 1>the time this message was sent, and fifteen minutes prior

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<v Speaker 1>to sending this message, Page was seen grabbing a package

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<v Speaker 1>from an Amazon pick up location. Hours later, FBI agent's

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<v Speaker 1>watched Page by pistol primers from a store in Irving, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote dressed in a manner to obscure Page's identity, namely

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a medical mask, gloves, ball cap, and longsleeved shirt

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<v Speaker 1>to quote the criminal complaint. Carol replied to Page's messages

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<v Speaker 1>about obtaining more items from the ingredient's list, writing that

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<v Speaker 1>another package was quote already delivered, got to pick it

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<v Speaker 1>up tomorrow, but yay with four whys unquote. The criminal

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<v Speaker 1>complaint says that quote. According to Amazon records, on December seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, Carol purchased two five pound bags of

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<v Speaker 1>potassium nitrate ninety nine percent heure prilled Kno three five

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<v Speaker 1>pounds for industrial and technical applications, to be delivered to

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<v Speaker 1>the Amazon counter at the Whole Foods located at three

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<v Speaker 1>three seven seven South La Sienna Boulevard, Los Angeles, California.

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<v Speaker 1>The potassium nitrate was delivered on December eleventh, twenty twenty five. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>In early December, Carol messaged the confidential human source on

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<v Speaker 1>signal a list of components chemicals and tools, along with

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<v Speaker 1>prices of the required items. Several of these components were

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<v Speaker 1>either listed as already purchased or designated to be acquired

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<v Speaker 1>by another quote unquote. Comrade Carol advised the confidential human

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<v Speaker 1>source quote with the list, write it and down when

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<v Speaker 1>you have some time. Then I'll delete that message, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's no in the chat all well.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Carol also told the confidential human source that they should

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<v Speaker 1>get some burner phones quote unquote bought with cash only

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<v Speaker 1>for the bomb testing camp out in the desert. Page

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<v Speaker 1>instructed the group to only bring two burner phones to

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<v Speaker 1>use in case of emergencies and for directions on the

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<v Speaker 1>way out to quote the complaint quote. Once everyone arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>their phones would be put in a small cardboard box

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<v Speaker 1>completely sealed with aluminium. The phones would not be returned

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<v Speaker 1>until the care caravan was out of the campsite and

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<v Speaker 1>back on the main road. Quote forgetting to the desert,

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<v Speaker 1>page wrote that each navigator should have a burner phone,

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<v Speaker 1>quoting page in the complaint quote no phones besides burners,

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<v Speaker 1>and all phones except navigators to be wrapped in foil

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<v Speaker 1>or a Faraday bag for the entirety of the trip

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<v Speaker 1>and install OSM. And it is an open source maps,

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<v Speaker 1>so no corporate tracking unquote. Garfield wrote quote, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a few burners, but I'm saving for the big event,

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<v Speaker 1>the big party celebrate emoji quote. On December tenth, Carol

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<v Speaker 1>sent the Confidential Human Source a message on signal reading

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<v Speaker 1>quote I kind of hand this notebook where I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>down multiple plans that never happened or got delayed, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like my terrorist diary. Lmaoooo, I have to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of that unquote. On the morning of December twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, Carol Page, Garfield, and Lye traveled to

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<v Speaker 1>the desert in two vehicles, the confidential human source in

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<v Speaker 1>one car and the undercover in the other. To quote

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<v Speaker 1>from the complaint quote. In the undercover vehicle, Page discussed

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<v Speaker 1>using cigarettes as a delayed fusing device for the explosives.

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<v Speaker 1>Once they arrived in the desert, in the other vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>Carol explained to Lie that the day's events were meant

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<v Speaker 1>as a test run for the New Year's Eve bombing plot,

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<v Speaker 1>which Carol described in detail, stating, quote, what we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>will be considered a terrorist act unquote. In response to

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<v Speaker 1>Carroll's detailing of the New Year's Eve plot, Lie asked

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<v Speaker 1>if there would be any people at the bombing target locations.

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<v Speaker 1>Carol responded in the negative, but noted that if they

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<v Speaker 1>saw any people such as a security guard at any

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<v Speaker 1>of the locations, they would warn them. At approximately ten am,

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<v Speaker 1>the co conspirators arrived at the desert and began setting

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<v Speaker 1>up a campsite including tents and tables. Based on information

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<v Speaker 1>from the undercover and confidential human source. Carol Page, and

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<v Speaker 1>Lie all brought bomb making components to the campsite, including

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<v Speaker 1>various sizes of PVC pipes, suspected potassium nitrate, charcoal, charcoal powder,

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<v Speaker 1>sulfur powder, and material to be used as fuses, among others.

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<v Speaker 1>After the undercover alerted law enforcement with a predetermined signal

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<v Speaker 1>indicating that bomb testing was imminent, FBI personnel intervened and

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<v Speaker 1>placed Carol Page, Garfield, and Lie into custody. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a clip from the law enforcement press conference announcing the

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<v Speaker 1>arrests with a Keel Davis, Assistant Director in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI Los Angeles Field Office.

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<v Speaker 2>On December twelfth, a group of individuals, again members of

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<v Speaker 2>this antigovernment group, traveled out to the desert to test

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<v Speaker 2>their explosive device. They had precursor chemicals there and they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to make They were going to create these

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<v Speaker 2>these bombs in the desert. What they are starting to

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<v Speaker 2>do is put their chemicals and wares and the components

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<v Speaker 2>out on the on the table on the table there.

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<v Speaker 2>This footage that you're watching is from our surveillance plane.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what happened after this is the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>FBI SWAT team, along with the FBI's Hostage Rescue Team,

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<v Speaker 2>moved in and arrested all four subjects without without incident.

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<v Speaker 1>The criminal complaint notes at the end that quote based

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<v Speaker 1>on conversations with the bomb technician. While no quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>end caps were found at the campsite, the co conspirators

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<v Speaker 1>could have improvised using other material to plug the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the PBC pipe, though such method would have been

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<v Speaker 1>less effective than using a proper end cap. As noted above,

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<v Speaker 1>there were also sufficient parts to create several molotov cocktail

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<v Speaker 1>device unquote. After the arrests, law enforcement also raided the

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<v Speaker 1>homes of the Turtle Island Liberation Front members. In Page's residence,

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<v Speaker 1>police found a copy of the handwritten attack plan Operation

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<v Speaker 1>Midnight Sun. That same day, December twelfth, another Turtle Island

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<v Speaker 1>Liberation Front related arrest was made all the way in Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 1>a former marine who was member of the Order of

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<v Speaker 1>the Black Lotus Signal group under the name Darkwitch. She

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<v Speaker 1>her who was also planning to instruct the group on

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<v Speaker 1>quote urban tactics, accuracy and combat shooting unquote. She was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested while driving from New Iberia to New Orleans with

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<v Speaker 1>a rifle, handgun, gas canister, and body armour. The FBI

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<v Speaker 1>believes that she was going to carry out an attack

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<v Speaker 1>based on a Facebook post commenting on a border patrol

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<v Speaker 1>rest in New Orleans captioned quote shit time to recreate Waco,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas with these fuckers thuck Ice unquote. Three of the

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<v Speaker 1>defendants in the Los Angeles case page, Carol and Lae,

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<v Speaker 1>have pled not guilty. Garfield is set to be arraigned

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<v Speaker 1>the day that I'm recording this, and the Turtle Island

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<v Speaker 1>Liberation Front trial is currently scheduled for the end of February.

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