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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George

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Speaker 1: nor with you along with Robert Young Pelton. Robert grade

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Speaker 1: the two administrations for me, and they're handling of Putin

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Speaker 1: and Russia. First of all, the Trump administration, what would

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Speaker 1: you grade them? Give them a zero because they allowed

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Speaker 1: Putin to do whatever you wanted. There were very few pushbacks.

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Speaker 1: Now there were sanctions imposed during the Trump administration, but

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Speaker 1: the policy of the Trump administration was to work with

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Speaker 1: autocrats and dictators and you know, focus on sort of

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Speaker 1: counter terrorism and other issues that they agreed on. What

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Speaker 1: would you grade the Biden administration? I give him a

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Speaker 1: five because he's not out the gate yet. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's been faced with two crises so far. Lincoln has

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Speaker 1: sort of said tough things and sort of given the

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Speaker 1: correct signs, but we haven't actually pulled a trigger on anything.

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Speaker 1: So you know, whether it's a minor or major things

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Speaker 1: so far, it's just words. In your professional opinion, is

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Speaker 1: Putin going to go into the Ukraine with the troops

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Speaker 1: that he's got massed along the border. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: He's already in the Ukraine. As you know, he took

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Speaker 1: a large chunk of that. He lived in fighting constantly.

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Speaker 1: The goal here is to push forward and then grab

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Speaker 1: a little bit and then sort of lead back. What

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Speaker 1: he's trying to do is assert dominance over the region

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Speaker 1: so that it's very painful and expensive for the US

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Speaker 1: and Europe to put troops and sort of lock down

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Speaker 1: the Ukraine. Ukraine's ready to fight. I mean, they're not

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Speaker 1: afraid of Putin, but the way wars are fought today

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Speaker 1: with drones and you know, cyber thing, it's just very

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Speaker 1: ugly and messy. So nobody wants a war. But Putin

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Speaker 1: has no problem in doing something and then pulling back.

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Speaker 1: All were your thoughts of a year ago of the

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Speaker 1: January sixth uprising at the Capitol. Well, as a guy

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Speaker 1: who's been in many revolutions and rebel camps and whatever,

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Speaker 1: I knew exactly what I was looking at. It an

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Speaker 1: attempt to overthrow a democratic country. It was very badly executed.

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Speaker 1: Obviously people got cold feet at the last minute, but

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Speaker 1: it was a shot at it. But you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: also watching what's continuing to this day. And again we

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Speaker 1: talked about hybrid warfare there's a thing called lawfare, which

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Speaker 1: is the use of courts and legal intimidation. There's very

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Speaker 1: low level attacks on school boards, there's synchronized messaging of

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Speaker 1: things to get people upset. This just goes on and on,

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Speaker 1: so that that program is still continuing. The idea is

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Speaker 1: to frustrate and to weaken the democrats in their control

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Speaker 1: of the country, and also the so distrust amongst because

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Speaker 1: I remember, a divided country is a lot easier to

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Speaker 1: damage than a united country, and using false fronts or

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Speaker 1: false flags, you know, makes people like China and Iran

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Speaker 1: and Russian just kind of last because you should be united,

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Speaker 1: not fighting. Why is there so much tension and so

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Speaker 1: much hatred Robert today in this country. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: been through as you have, the Vietnam War and everything else.

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Speaker 1: This is the most tense I've ever felt this country

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Speaker 1: to be in. Why is that? Well, it's simple. There

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Speaker 1: used to be a filter, so when somebody wanted to

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Speaker 1: get a message out, it went through the media or

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Speaker 1: came directly from the government, and there was sort of

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Speaker 1: a quality control system in place with social media. Chinese, Russian,

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Speaker 1: Irani and the Syrian I mean, list goes on these

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Speaker 1: people can reach the American public directly, you know, through Facebook,

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Speaker 1: through Twitter, just constant sort of iteration, a weird and

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Speaker 1: strange things that get people upset. So that filter is gone.

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Speaker 1: You know, they can come directly to your house. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I said, you know at the front end

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Speaker 1: that you're combatant in this war, you are being manipulated

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Speaker 1: and targeted by outside forces. And we have to realize

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Speaker 1: that China and Taiwan, what do you think is going

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Speaker 1: to happen there Taiwan? There will be some point at

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Speaker 1: which China feels confident enough to do something militarily. But

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Speaker 1: China has a lot of patients. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: look at the history of China, they'll wait twenty thirty,

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Speaker 1: forty fifty years and slowly, slowly, slowly take over that place.

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Speaker 1: You know. You see it in the sprat leys, you

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Speaker 1: see it in Affrica. You see it in the way

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Speaker 1: the way they hand the wagers, you see them in

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Speaker 1: their Belt and Road initiative. They're using every possible tool,

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Speaker 1: whether it be you know, debt or pr or intimidation

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Speaker 1: to slowly take control of the areas they want. Is

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Speaker 1: Taiwan strong enough to fight themselves and protect them, of course,

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Speaker 1: not against China. Yeah, it's a historical anomaly. Look at

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Speaker 1: Hong Kong. You know, they didn't invade Hong Kong per se, right,

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Speaker 1: They just put a lot of pressure on the border,

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Speaker 1: you know, almost like Ukraine, with a lot of military vehicles,

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Speaker 1: and they slowly degraded anybody who stood in their way

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Speaker 1: we didn't do anything about it. What's your take on timetable?

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Speaker 1: On timetable, Yeah, that's something good. Okay, So what's happened

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Speaker 1: now since sort of two thousand and ten, you know,

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Speaker 1: remember Arab Spring and all these democratic movements. Is autocrats

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Speaker 1: are very concerned about stamping out democratic movements right at

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Speaker 1: that movement is extinguished. Those people there's five thousand people

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Speaker 1: then we just move on because the media doesn't want

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Speaker 1: it in Kimmen Square. They learned very quickly that you

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Speaker 1: can't let the democratic movements succeed. So Arab Spring is

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Speaker 1: basically dead. You know, thanks to the UAE and KSA,

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Speaker 1: they've extinguished every single democratic movement of government that was

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Speaker 1: been Mohammad Been what's his last name in in Saudi Arabia. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's a good player. It's actually going to

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Speaker 1: be his brother too, Noon, that's going to be the

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Speaker 1: crown prince next. So nbg's kind of moving up into

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Speaker 1: the rulership position when the father dies. They've been very

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Speaker 1: good players, but in twenty and nineteen they decided they're

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Speaker 1: going to acide with Russia and and sort of go

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Speaker 1: after the US. Now they won't say it publicly, but

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Speaker 1: they are working very diligently to degrade the US current.

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Speaker 1: They're undermining our foreign policy in places like Africa and Asia,

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Speaker 1: and they are going to go toe to toe against

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Speaker 1: the US and they're going to back things like you know, Wagner.

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Speaker 1: Their mercenary organization and Russia is paid for by the UA,

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Speaker 1: and most people don't know that in places like Libya,

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Speaker 1: Sudan they're paying Russian mercenaries to degrade foreign policy for

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Speaker 1: the US. A friend of mine, Robert was born in

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Speaker 1: Vietnam and was held by the Vietcong as a prisoner

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Speaker 1: for a while when he was a young man, and

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Speaker 1: a doctor, just a great guy. But he was telling

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Speaker 1: me that years ago, in the beginning Ho Chi men

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Speaker 1: and we shunned him. Is that true? Yes, yes, desinctly true.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta remember that these freedom fighters, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting help from the communists, so he basically our enemy.

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Speaker 1: But for a while there, we supported a number of

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Speaker 1: democratic uprising around the world. And you mentioned Castro Batista,

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Speaker 1: who was running Cuba at the time, was a mobster, right,

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Speaker 1: The Godfather, yea from the truth. But again they believe

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Speaker 1: that supporting populist uprisings against dictators would be something that

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Speaker 1: and help some freedom fighters. So we're not perfectly clean

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Speaker 1: in the idea that we believe in period democratic uprisings.

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Speaker 1: But what we're seeing now is President Biden has flatly

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Speaker 1: seeing is that democracies are being knocked down. And almost

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Speaker 1: like two days after he made that speech, Kazakhstan was

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Speaker 1: an example of a group of people rising up to

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Speaker 1: That's amazing work. And do you do I'm amazing work too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you're still making knives, Oh yeah, dpxis

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Speaker 1: are still available. You know. I make documentaries. I'm working

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Speaker 1: about this because you know, you remember, I was with

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Speaker 1: US Special Forces when they fought on horseback in Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: and those guys went off to become contractors, which have

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Speaker 1: been sparked by book License to Kill, And now I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of these same contractors working for countries

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Speaker 1: like the UA, but actually backing the extinguishment of democrats, sorry,

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Speaker 1: democratization and dissidents. You know, there are people working within

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Speaker 1: KILLED teams to track and harass dissidents who don't believe

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Speaker 1: instead of dictatorship. So we live in very strange times.

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Speaker 1: I would almost compare it to like the thirties when

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Speaker 1: Hitler was popular in using all kinds of weird social

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Speaker 1: absolutely right. And you know, I've been there many many times,

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Speaker 1: not pleasant. We did need to reboot. We did need

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Speaker 1: to the Afghanians, these who supported us and we leave

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Speaker 1: us and we just failed. But this had to happen.

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Speaker 1: You know, we warned them. Trump signed the surrender to

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Speaker 1: the Taliban. There was no secret. Tompeo told everybody we

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Speaker 1: the Taliban. What's going on with Iraq right now? Iraq

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Speaker 1: but you know, Iran wants a lot of influence. The

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Speaker 1: stay semi stable. There's no reason for us to get

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Speaker 1: involved in any heavy way yet. Now, of course, they

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Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein really in trouble with us? What did he do?

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Speaker 1: Was it going into Kuwait? That was his end? No,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to book and Iran. The goal was always Iran,

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Speaker 1: you know Chaney and the neo cons Their goal was

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Speaker 1: essentially change the Middle East, get rid of all these

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Speaker 1: bad guys, put in democratic governments. And it just didn't

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Speaker 1: work right. So we were in the Afghanistan and we

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Speaker 1: stayed there because we were also going to go into Iran.

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Speaker 1: We were going to start a war with Iran, and

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Speaker 1: thank god, it never happened. But there was a goal

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Speaker 1: to basically reshape every autocratic government in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: And now with assad of Syria basically winning, we kind

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Speaker 1: of went the other way by saying, Okay, better to

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Speaker 1: have a dictator that does all a dirty work for

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Speaker 1: us than to try to create democracies. Do you think

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Speaker 1: displacing Kadafi and Libya was a smart thing to do. Well,

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Speaker 1: we didn't do that. The people did that. You know,

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Speaker 1: he was past his time, he was out of touch

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Speaker 1: with the people. We helped with intelligence and air strikes, etc. Etc.

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Speaker 1: But other people have gone in there and started stirring

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Speaker 1: things up. And we talked about the UAE and this

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Speaker 1: American guy, he's a hosta who was a retiree from

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Speaker 1: Virginia suddenly becomes a warlord. They spent something like thirty

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Speaker 1: billion dollars of Kadafi's stolen money to keep that war going,

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Speaker 1: and they still are sort of trying to keep it

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Speaker 1: unstable because this is the new thing is to keep people,

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Speaker 1: keep keep countries messed up. In other words, don't fix anything,

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Speaker 1: don't build anything, just keep it messed up. The chaos

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Speaker 1: to deal with, Yep, chaos. Listen to the scenario I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing from a couple of guests. Tell me what you

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Speaker 1: think that the president Joe Biden will step down for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason. Kamala Harris becomes a president, names Hillary as

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Speaker 1: vice president, and Hillary runs in twenty twenty four. Again,

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Speaker 1: what do you think of that? Good lord man? Wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: who are these people? No? I think Hillary's done. I

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Speaker 1: think Hillary was not liked by a lot of So

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Speaker 1: you don't think that scenarios could unfold? Uh no, No, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean Joe Biden is old. I mean you know

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Speaker 1: you can see it in how he walks and talks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're concerned about. Yeah, but he's also been

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Speaker 1: around for a long time, so he knows his way around.

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Speaker 1: Now will he get his agenda done? Doll? But do

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Speaker 1: the Republicans have a better idea? No? You know, it's

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Speaker 1: like throwing rocks at the buildings thinking that that's how

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Speaker 1: you run a country. I think there's better solutions to that.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, the key is with the people

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Speaker 1: of America. You know, we have to stop bickering amongst

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Speaker 1: ourselves and we have to start thinking about, Okay, why

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Speaker 1: are we so divided? Who made us divided? We shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be calling names that you know, right versus left. We

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Speaker 1: should be looking outside the country saying who wants us

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Speaker 1: like this? There are plenty of countries like China, Russia,

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