1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Monday, 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: August second August means football. It is here and to celebrate, 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: we have a great guest, Aaron Chatz, Football Outsiders. Folks, 5 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. It's gonna get you geeked for 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: the NFL. Obviously, there's football very very soon. Also, if 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: you're listening to this in the morning, you might want 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: to flip over to FS one and see your boy 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: on Undisputed with Broussard and LaVar Arrington. Should be fun. 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: But before we get the football, before we get the Undisputed, 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: I gotta talk about two things. First of all, I 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: hope everybody had a phenomenal weekend. Ours was excellent. Um 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: wife and I went to a brand new restaurant, some 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: Mexican food. Really nice time. Also, daughter had her best 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: basketball game of the summer league season. If you follow 16 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: me on the Graham you obviously know that. But bigger 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: than both of those, yes, the world is larger than me. 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: How about us A beating Mexico and extra time right 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: before penalty kicks, Miles Robinson with the header and the 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: US beats Mexico for the second time this summer. Folks, 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: that was as good of a two and a half 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: hours worth of soccer as you will find heart stopping stuff. 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: The US really was in trouble in the first half. 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean Mexico totally dominated a multiple chances. US had 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: a couple of good chances. Second half US claus back. 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: They blew a couple of chances, and then a dirty 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: foul on a breakaway UM by Mexico led to the 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: US free kick service into the box. Beautiful header. And 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: if you're a Mexican soccer fan, you've gotta be a 30 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: little dispirited right now. Obviously I do like Mexican soccer. 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: I own a team in Lega MX. I'm not the 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: primary owner, but I'm a partial owner. Um. Also, we 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: lost over the weekend, so we're out owen two. Not 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: a great start. UM. By the way, the Nicasa Goli 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: is on the Mexican Olympic team. UM, and they may 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: win a gold medal, we'll see. But at any rate, 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: US twice beating Mexico in or two months span. This 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: was the B team. The last time they beat him 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: with the A team, also at extra time. Polictit converting 40 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: a p K just exciting stuff for US soccer. I 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: know they're down. They didn't qualify for the Olympics last time, 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: and um, you know, didn't qualify for the World Cup 43 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: is devastating. But sometimes in life you gotta hit rock 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: bottom before you bounce back, and folks, US Soccer is 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: bouncing back big. The future is bright. I know you've 46 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: heard that before, but it feels different this time. Beating 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: Mexico twice in one summer is extraordinary. And um, that 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: was fun. That was That was a great Sunday night. Um. 49 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: The other story before we get to Aaron chats at 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: Football Outsiders and be a free agency begins today at 51 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: six pm Eastern. But you know how the this works, 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Tons of stuff, tons happening behind the scenes all weekend. 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: And Woades dropped a bit of a bomb Sunday night 54 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: that Miami is the front runner to land Kyle Lowry 55 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: in a sign and trade. Now here's what's super interesting 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: from the Lakers fans perspective. Laker fans have been like, oh, 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: maybe we'll get tomorrow de Rosin, He'll come home. Folks, 58 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm hearing If Kyle Lowry goes to Miami. DeMar Derozen 59 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: will be going with him to Miami. That is where 60 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: DeMar Do Rosen will land. If remember him and Lowry 61 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Ruddies in the backcourt in Toronto forever Miami. It sounds like, 62 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: based on the Woad story, is gonna do some sign 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: and trade. They're not giving up Tyler Hero, which is crazy. 64 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: It sounds like the package is centered around Goran Dragic 65 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: and precious a Chua, the guy they drafted. Not a 66 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: huge hole. But I just want everybody to pump the brakes, like, yes, 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: Miami is gonna be in the mix if they bring 68 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: back Butler and Bam and Hero and Lowry and Thros Like, 69 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: that's a really good team in the East. It's not 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: NETS caliber, but just like this is not Kyle Lowry 71 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: won the NBA title. Okay, this is Kyle Lowry who 72 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: is thirty five years old. He turned thirty six next year, 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: right before the playoffs begin, And I just want to 74 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: remind you Kyle Lowry had a pretty bad year. Uh, 75 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: definitely down for him. And I know the Raptors stunk, 76 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: uh and he had the injuries and it was a 77 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: COVID year and they were playing in Toronto, they were 78 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: playing in Florida. He you could start to see the 79 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: decline a little bit. This guy who five years ago 80 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: was forty six percent from the field for from three 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: twenty two and seven, Like he was down to shooting 82 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: thirty nine from three seventeen a game. His minutes are down. 83 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: Like I know he's a good defender, and he's gonna 84 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: take pride obviously in defending, and he wants to play 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Butler. And Jimmy Butler plus Kyle Lowry plus 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: BAM is a nasty defensive trio like no Lie or, 87 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: as my son likes to say, no Cap. They can 88 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: defend Harden, Hyrie and uh and and Kevin Durant. Now 89 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: they gotta get there. They got swept by the Bucks, 90 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: but we know they went to the finals year prior. 91 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: They were exhausted. Every team that went deep into the 92 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: playoffs last year was extinguished early. Um Nuggets did get 93 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: out of the first round, but kind of luckily over Portland, 94 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: which is new is imploding as we speak. But Kyle 95 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Lowry to Miami sounds like it will be one of 96 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: the first dominoes to fallow. Now I'm not gonna go 97 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: too deep on this because there will be plenty of 98 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: moving parts for tomorrow's podcast. But if Lowry goes to Miami, 99 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: what does this mean for a Lonzo Ball, the alleged 100 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: twenty million dollar man. Everybody was using the heat as 101 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: leverage for their point guard because remember Mike Conley could 102 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: leave the Jazz, sounds like he's staying. Alonzo's out there. 103 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what Reggie Jackson's game plan is, but 104 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: there's several point guards that's like the deepest position this offseason. 105 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: Lowry obviously is one of them, and people think he 106 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: can be a big difference when it comes to like 107 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: winning a title. But um, a lot of dominoes to fall. 108 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: I I personally, I don't know. I feel like teams 109 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: are gonna play it close to the vest. Obviously, there's 110 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: the Kauai news. Kauai opting out not a huge shocker. 111 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: I will say I would give it a tiny, tiny 112 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: sliver of a chance that Kauai ends up in like 113 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: Miami or something. Um, I know everybody's going to Miami, 114 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: ha ha, but maybe Kauai and the Clippers structure it 115 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: so that he doesn't eat as much salary this year. 116 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's possible, in hopes that, 117 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: hey man, you're not playing for the entire regular season, 118 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: we will obviously pay you, but let's back end, backload 119 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: the contract so we can have some flexibility to get 120 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: better this year. Otherwise it's gonna have to be the 121 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: Paul George, Terrence Mayn and I guess Reggie Jackson show. 122 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't love that in the West, all right, So 123 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: without further ado, let's get to Aaron shots of Football Outsiders. 124 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna love this and um he also thinks the 125 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: Jets are going to be the worst team in the NFL. 126 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes 127 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports dance want, but for 128 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does. Let's 129 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows a guy 130 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: who knows another guy. Let's welcome into the podcast a 131 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: special guest. Listen, this guy knows football as well as anybody. 132 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: The Football Outsiders is mandatory reading if you gamble on 133 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: the NFL, hell if you if you do fantasy, you 134 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: just want to understand the league. I have gotten such 135 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: a better understanding since I started going deep every day 136 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: into Football Outsiders. Aaron Chatz, how are you, man? I'm good. 137 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: It's been a good summer. We did a lot of 138 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: hard work. Our book is out and I am ready 139 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: for a new season. Yeah. I I mean the calendars 140 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: into August and instantly it's like football, Like I know, 141 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: NBA free agencies happening, and there's Olympics are still going on. 142 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: Although I gotta be honest, I don't know what channel 143 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: any of this stuff so on, and there's a million 144 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: channels in the so I'm like, I've just given up 145 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: and I basically spent the weekend, you know, going to 146 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: my kids sporting events and reading the Football outside er 147 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: his almanac. It is incredible. Um, I don't know. Is 148 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: there a team you want to start with. I thought 149 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: we would open with Aaron Rodgers, but people are turned 150 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: off by him a lot. If you want to start 151 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: somewhere else, we can. But I got a lot of 152 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: questions for you. But where would you like to start? 153 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: You're the special beast. We could hit the whole league. 154 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we can specify just on the teams that 155 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: were a little bit higher on the like Minnesota and 156 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: New England. We can talk about teams were a little 157 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: lower on than everyone else, like Cleveland and the Chargers. 158 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: But if we need to talk Aaron Rodgers, Lord knows, 159 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: I'll been doing a lot of thinking about Aaron Rodgers 160 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: over the last few months. I don't know, I mean else, Yeah, 161 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: you could be a little short, but I am just curious, Like, 162 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: besides obviously being annoyed at Aaron Rodgers for dragging us 163 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: through all this nonsense to eventually capitulate. Um, I'm just curious, 164 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: where are you on the Packers because their schedule got 165 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: significantly tougher, and I know they have a good team. 166 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: I just wonder, Man, is it can they really do 167 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: three straight years of this? Davante Adams is unhappy. Um, 168 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: they got a new defensive coordinator. I don't love the 169 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: Packers as much as everybody else. I wouldn't bet them 170 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. Um, but it sounds like 171 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: you like the Vikings a lot. So maybe we'll just 172 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: start with Packers and the and the Vikings in that division. Well, 173 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: I will say we still have the Packers ahead of 174 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: the Vikings in our projections, but we have them both 175 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: as likely playoff teams this year. Um. I mean, I 176 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: think the Packers can do the same thing that they 177 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: do every year. There's no reason they can. They can 178 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: have a really good offense with a mediocre defense. They 179 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: are playing a tough schedule, but so does their whole division. 180 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: So that's something that Green Bay in Minnesota actually have 181 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: in common. The NFC North has the toughest schedules in 182 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: the league. Chicago is our number one highest toughest projected schedule. UM. 183 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: I think Green Bay Aaron Rodgers was playing at a 184 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: level where he was like the like nine best quarterback 185 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: in the league, and then all of a sudden last 186 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: year he was back to being the best or second 187 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: past Yeah, can he continue that for another year? I 188 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: think the most likely scenario is something sort of in between, 189 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: where he's like the fifth or sixth best quarterback. But 190 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: they've got a good running game, they've got a strong 191 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: offensive line. That offense is strong all around. Yes, I 192 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: know the wide receiver corps doesn't go that deep, but 193 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: they've got good wide receivers, not great wide receivers other 194 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: than Davante Adams. So I think they absolutely can go 195 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: deep in the playoffs again, but they're not the favorites 196 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: of the NFC. Tampa Bay is the prohibitive favorite of 197 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: the NFC for this year. I mean, their their division 198 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: lost Drew Brees, and you know there was talk about 199 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: the Bucks maybe going undefeated. Is that Do you want 200 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: to just squash that an hour? Do you think that 201 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: there is any chance? I mean, listen, I like the 202 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: Panthers a little bit. Um, I don't love them. I 203 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: don't love the Falcons. They probably run the table in 204 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: that division. Um, the schedule does not look that difficult 205 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: for Tampa. No, the schedule is easy. The answer is 206 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: there's always a chance. Golly would I not want to 207 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: bet on it that chance is more than one percent. 208 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: I mean, the first of all, I think the Saints 209 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: are better than you give them credit for. Their defense 210 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: has been good for the last couple of years. I 211 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: think their defense is going to be really good again. 212 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Saints team that looks very different 213 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: from what we're used to. They're gonna be carried by defense, 214 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: not by offense. But Tampa Bay is a great team 215 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: all around that happens to have one of the easiest 216 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: schedules in the league. So I have compared these Saints 217 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: two last year's Patriots. Right, you lose a Hall of 218 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: Fame quarterback Brady and Breeze. Uh, you lose a bunch 219 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: of opt outs to the Patriots, Covid and the Saints 220 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: I think lost four or five defensive starters and now 221 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: the receivers of Michael Thomas going down, they have no 222 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: receivers and and uh, Cam Newton had no receivers last year. 223 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: I just wonder if the Saints are of five or 224 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: six win team, is that too low on them? I 225 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: think that I think I think that's too low. I 226 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: think that there is more defense. Guests lost a couple 227 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: of starters on defense. There is a lot more of 228 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: defense left for the Saints than what was left for 229 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: the Patriots last year. Also, the Patriots, the defense that 230 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: they played in twenty nineteen was so heavily built on 231 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: turnovers that it was just screaming for regression. The Saints 232 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: defense is not quite in the same boat. So I 233 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: think the Saints defense is going to be very good 234 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: and I think that that will lift them. I absolutely 235 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: agree with you losing Michael Thomas. I mean, I don't 236 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: know if you can expect him to come back before 237 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: mid season. If that is a big loss, because there's 238 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: just nothing else at wide receiver for them. It's just 239 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who are like, oh, maybe if 240 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: this guy kind of puts it together, he'd be a 241 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: good number three Like those are the other guys they have, Yeah, 242 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: Mark Wise Callaway, but that's also with the quarterback like 243 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. Um, I don't know who's the starter there. 244 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: Do you think Jamis gets it or tastes him? Man, 245 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm rolling my eyes. That problem with do an audio 246 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: as you can't see the eye roll because logically it 247 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: really has to be Jamis Winston. Look, I know that 248 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: Winston had the thirty interceptions in his last year in 249 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Every other year, Jamis Winston was about the 250 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteenth best quarterback in the league. For most 251 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: of his career, he was an average NFL starter, And 252 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: that is much better than what you're going to get 253 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: out of Taysom Hill. That is just much better than 254 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: he was. He was average with Mike Evans right, and 255 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: I think he had Godwin there, so they had wept 256 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: here or two. He had Godwin. Yea, they had some weapons. Um, 257 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: Taysom god I'm trying to make a case for Tayson Mill. 258 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: I'll just stop there. I was trying to think of 259 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: what there really is and he can't throw the football. No, 260 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean he The funny thing is his numbers are 261 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: even better than they should be last year because he 262 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: had that one duck to Emmanuel Sanders was really badly 263 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: thrown and Sanders somehow came down. But no, I mean, 264 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: I just I don't understand Sean Payton's love affair with 265 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill as a quarterback. Like he's an interesting at 266 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: a weapon. He actually is a good receiver. I don't 267 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: understand the love affair with him as a starting quarterback 268 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: at all. All right, let's go back to the Vikings. 269 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: People were high on them last year, and for whatever reason, 270 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: I had seen the defensive turnover and I was like wow. 271 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: And then they opened in the first game and Aaron 272 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers I think, up and down the field touchdowns on 273 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: like six of seven drives to start something insane. And 274 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: they were really bad. But by season's end they had rebounded. Um, 275 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: and it feels like, you know, offensively they'll be fine. Um. 276 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: I just wonder though the defense. Do you think there 277 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: will be enough there eron for for a playoff push. Yeah, 278 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: they've added talent on defense, They've added guys. They're getting 279 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: Michael Pierce back from COVID, They're getting Daniel Hunter back 280 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: or Daniel Hunter from UH injury, the cost of the 281 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: whole year, adding Patrick Peterson to the secondary, There's there's 282 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot of added talent on defense there. And there's 283 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: a lot of ways in which Minnesota last year was 284 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: bad in things that tend to regress to the meet, 285 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: like the difference between first and second down offense and 286 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: third down offense. They were terrible on third down and 287 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: that tends to regress. Special teams. They were the second 288 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: worst team on special teams that tends to war. Injuries. 289 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: They were had a very heavily injury count that tends 290 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: to regress. So there's a lot of things pointing up 291 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: for Minnesota this year. I don't think they're a Super 292 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: Bowl contender, but I absolutely think they are a wild 293 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: card contender. So it feels like in the NFC you 294 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: are pro packers. Um, you know. I I don't know 295 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: what to make of the NFC West because it's it 296 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: feels like there's a lot of good teams there, but 297 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: all of them I can puncture holes in fairly easily. 298 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: I am kind of obsessed with the Rams because I 299 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: did take a flyer on them to win the Super 300 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: Bowl when Matt Stafford arrived. And then you just look 301 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: at the roster and it's like they're trying something Aaron 302 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: that I don't know that we've seen in the league before. 303 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: Just this whole we're punting on first round picks. We 304 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: don't care about them. We're just gonna go with a 305 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: few superstars, like the NBA style um and try to 306 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: win it. I like the you know, the creativeness from 307 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: from that organization, and I like McVey, but are they 308 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: really one of the best teams in the NFC. I'm 309 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: working right now on an article for ESPN about ranking 310 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: the teams by talent under twenty five and the Rams 311 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: rank thirty one. They keep they keep trading away their 312 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: first draff. There's no first round picks, right, But does 313 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: that even matter? No. I mean, if you've got enough talent, 314 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: it shouldn't matter. The problem is, I don't know if 315 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: they have as much talent as people think that they have. 316 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: I think Stafford, it's a really difficult to figure out 317 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: the whole Stafford versus Golf thing. Look, we're stat analysts 318 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: that what we do with football outsiders, and if you 319 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: look at the stats, you don't end up with Stafford 320 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: being a massive improvement on golf. For last year. Last 321 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: year Stafford was better than golf. Absolutely, But if you 322 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: look over the last two or three years, Stafford is 323 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: that much of an improvement on golf. You really have 324 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: to believe that the importance of that scheme and McVeigh 325 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: to golf, it's just was so important that he's just 326 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: going to totally fall apart and that McVeigh could turn 327 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: Stafford into something that he's never been, which is he's 328 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: never really been a top five quarterback. He's a good quarterback, 329 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: but he's never been a top five guy. He had 330 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: half a good he had half a really excellent season 331 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: in but it was half a season. I you know, 332 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: given his whole career numbers, and it's not like he 333 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: hasn't been you know, he hasn't had receivers. He had 334 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson early in his career, the last couple of years, 335 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: he had Marvin Jones, he had Kenny Golladay. He's had 336 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: guys to throw too. So I wonder where I wonder 337 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: is it not that he didn't have receivers, but he 338 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: never had the balance in the offense, like they never 339 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: had a running game combined with a passing game at 340 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: the same time. And then the defense, like they never 341 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: had a complete team in Detroit. Well, he certainly didn't 342 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: have a defense. There was like one year under Terry 343 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: Austin where they had really good defense, and it was 344 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: just it lasted for a year that it fell apart 345 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: um the other perhaps the other thing I have going 346 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: on with the Rams is I don't know what's going 347 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: to happen to their defense without Brandon Staley. Um. The 348 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: fact is that all other things being equal, when you 349 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: have a new coordinator, you take a step back. But 350 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: the Rams didn't last year, so it doesn't always happen. 351 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: They could be really good under Rocky Morris, but I 352 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: think that they lost They lost some players from that 353 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: defense Ebucam and John Johnson, who's a really great safety, 354 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: and Troy Hill and and they're depending on Brockers. They 355 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: got rid of Rockers. They're depending on a lot of 356 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: new players on that defense. So I think it's not 357 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: just that I don't think the offensive improvement is going 358 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: to be as good as people expect. I think their 359 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: defense is going to take a big of a bit 360 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: of a step back. There's still gonna be playoff contenders. 361 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: And they're in the best division in the game. I mean, 362 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: the NFC West is the best division of the game. 363 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm not super high on the ramps 364 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: this year. So who's when? Who do you have winning? 365 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: Who do the numbers, the d v O numbers have 366 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: winning the NFC West. I know, call this crazy, but 367 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: we have Seattle on top. What despite the questions at 368 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: set in the secondary, obviously there's a lot of questions, 369 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of talent in their front seven. 370 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: They added a ton of path rush. Although I don't 371 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen to Aldon Smith with his 372 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: legal issues, and Russell Wilson covers a lot of hills. 373 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson covers all historically he has. But there was 374 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: something that went on the second half of last season, 375 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: I think starting with the Buffalo game on the road 376 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: where Pete Carroll just like was like too many turnovers 377 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: were going back to the run. I know, I don't 378 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: want him to go back to the run. I want 379 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: them to let Russ cook. Uh. We have them number one. 380 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: We have them a little bit ahead of San Francisco. 381 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: We have San Francisco very high as well. Their defense. 382 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: They're getting all those guys back. They were so injured 383 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: last year and they're getting all those guys back, and 384 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: they should to be really good because either Garoppolo is 385 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback and Garoppo has been reasonably 386 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: good throughout his career, or they're going to decide that 387 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: Lance is better. And I sort of make the assumption 388 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: if the team decides the rookie is better, the rookie 389 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: is probably better. Wow, that's that's right now. I mean, 390 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: I just want to slow down on Seattle because all 391 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden you have Seattle, San frand the Rams three. 392 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no continuity in Seattle, right, didn't they 393 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: dump Shoddy and they got a new offensive coordinator. They 394 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: do have a new offensive coordinator, that is true. And 395 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: other well, like I said, all other things being equal, 396 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: that's a step back. And San Francisco lost I think 397 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: three defensive starters and defensive coordinator and sale they get back. 398 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: Look at who they get back starting with BOTHA. That's right, 399 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: so they'll be healthy man that division. There's questions in 400 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: the secondary for San Francisco. Both Seattle and all three 401 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: of these teams have questions in the secondary because with 402 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: the Rams, you're like, who's replacing Troy Hill and who's 403 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: replacing John Johnson. With Seattle, the cornerbacks are questionable. With 404 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco, the cornerbacks are questionable. By the way, with Arizona, 405 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks are Malcolm Butler and like nothing. The whole 406 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: NFC West, despite being strong in so many ways, has 407 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: secondary questions. All right, Aaron, I'm contractually obligated to ask 408 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: you about the Dallas Cowboys, So go love the Cowboys 409 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: this year. What I'm actually locking them? Yeah, I'm actually 410 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: because I don't want to be chalk and I want 411 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: to be kind of interesting. I've been telling people my 412 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: subjective pick is Dallas to go to the Super Bowl. 413 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: Oh my, you guys can't see that. My jaw just dropped. 414 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys. I mean, we talk about defenses, new 415 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. I don't know what is gonna be blah, 416 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: but I mean I think that defense Nolan, the defense 417 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: that Nolan was running was really bad. Like I think that. 418 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: I think they're going to get better on defense and 419 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: their defense will be kind of the middle of the pack. 420 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: What about this hard knocks thing where they you know, 421 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: teams are going hard knocks, potential to unravel. You know, 422 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: Jerry is gonna be a camera hog McCarthy. The spotlight's 423 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: gonna be on them. We know, kind of a questionable, 424 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: shaky year, Ezekiel Elliott, all this stuff. Jerry is gonna 425 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: be too worried about the Buffalo Bills moving to Austin 426 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: to cause I saw that news. First of all. I 427 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: saw that news come on and there's nothing. I don't 428 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: really think that's a thing. I'm kidding. Yeah, Austin, Texas 429 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: getting an NFL team. All right, fine there there, we 430 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: got the Cowboys out of the way. Let's go to 431 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: the um A f C where everybody. All they care about, 432 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: you know, is my New York Football Jets. Um no, 433 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: we'll we'll spend thirty seconds on the Jets because there's 434 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: just not much there. It's a rebuilding year. They're changing 435 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: the culture. I'm just hoping they're not like, you know, 436 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 1: a three win team long term promise short term. We 437 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: have them with the lowest projection of the law. Lowest. 438 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: Do you think they're the worst, dude, They don't have 439 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: the roast worst roster, though, do they That's pretty bad. 440 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: It's every they upgraded, like every offensive position. They got 441 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: tons of guys in the code on offense. Yeah though 442 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: they did. But again, the problem with rookie quarterbacks is 443 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: you don't know how good they're gonna be. Um, you 444 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: can't assume rookie quarterbacks are going to be above average. 445 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: The average rookie quarterback, even first round picks, even high 446 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: first round picks, is below average and then takes a 447 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: jump in their second year. So you can't expect that 448 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's gonna be really good out the gate. Could 449 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: he could? He be? Yeah, he could, but it's not likely. 450 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: And Houston, for all that they look like a trash 451 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: dumpster fire, added a lot of like better than replacement 452 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: level but below average talent and a lot of positions, 453 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: they look kind of like an expansion team without a quarterback. 454 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: So we have Houston thirty one. You have Houston ahead 455 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: of the Jet Oh my gosh. Fox Sports Radio has 456 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 457 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and 458 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app search f s R 459 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: to listen live. I am irrationally high on the Browns. 460 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: I did read the Browns preview, and I sent some 461 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: trepidation from football outsiders. I also saw nine new defensive starters. 462 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: Maybe that's to believe. I know. I've got the X 463 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: Files poster on my wall. I want to believe in 464 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I do. I like Browns fans, I 465 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: like the Brown's front office, but our numbers. Listen, is 466 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: it possible that we are under projecting their defense because 467 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: of all the new talent. Absolutely it's possible, but they 468 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: lost a lot of talent. Along with gaining a lot 469 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: of talent. There's a lot of new, but there's also 470 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: a lot of old that's gone, like Olivier Vernon and 471 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson and Larry oga job Um. On offense, I 472 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: think they are good but not great. And I don't 473 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: see Odell Beckham coming back making them great because when 474 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: they had Odell Beckham, they weren't great. So I think 475 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: what I what we end up with is a team 476 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: that's good on offense and bad on defense and special 477 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: teams and has a hard schedule and it kind of 478 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: comes out to an average team. I know, I I 479 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: know what people feel that they are a very very 480 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: strong Super Bowl contender, but we never have them anywhere near. 481 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: We have a very clear top three in the a 482 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: f C. That Chiefs, Chiefs, Bills, and News. The other 483 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: one Ravens Ravens. Interesting, now I have to I mean, 484 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: I just I'm not sure the Ravens are the best 485 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: team in the division. Are you certain that the Ravens 486 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: given the offensive line issues, I think they lost a 487 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: couple of starters on defense, Lamar what is this year 488 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: four for Lamar? Like it's time for him to learn 489 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: how to throw outside? Yes, there's no question about that. 490 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: I liked the pickup of Justin Houston. They cannot complain 491 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson's receivers anymore. They've put a lot of 492 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: assets into the receiver position. Remember that when we do 493 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: our projections, we're looking at numbers over three years. Obviously, 494 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: the most important is last year. But two years ago 495 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens had one of the best regular seasons we've 496 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: ever measured, and there is definitely a good chance of 497 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: them bouncing back towards that on offense, and their defense 498 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: was really good year. And you add in the fact 499 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: that they're one of two teams where you can actually 500 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: expect to get value out of special teams every year, 501 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: and they we just really really like the Ravens. Now, 502 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: the numbers came out with the Ravens is the number 503 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: one team in the a f C subjective Subjectively, do 504 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens are the most likely team? Now? 505 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are the most likely team. But 506 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: our numbers really like the Ravens. So, and that's a 507 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: good question. I'm sure people are listening, you know, they 508 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: know the d v O A number that the football 509 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: outsiders do. How much do you do I test and 510 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: culture and that stuff. You can't quantify it. But like 511 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: you just said, the numbers say Ravens number one, but 512 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: you know Ravens aren't number one. We write about it. 513 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: That's why we do a book instead of just a 514 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: bunch of tables of numbers. Right. It's like we write 515 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: in the chapters when we feel that our projections are 516 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: a little off. I think I think the Cleveland chapter 517 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: is honest about the fact that we think we could 518 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: be too low on them, and I think our Kansas 519 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: City chapter is pretty honest about the fact that, yeah, 520 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: we Kansas City is the best team in the a 521 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: f C and the steadiest team in football right now. Um, 522 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: because Patrick Mahomes is just so steady, was so good 523 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: and so steady. Yeah, so yeah, I mean the subjective things, 524 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: the things like chemistry and personalities and uh, you know 525 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: we account for that in our write ups. But the numbers, Like, 526 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you're a numbers guy, obviously, we I think 527 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: we told your story last time you were on here. 528 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: It's just it's tough for me, like watching some of 529 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: these teams and some of these players, like Josh Allen 530 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: makes this massive leap last year, right he I think 531 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: your numbers had him eleven increase in completion percentage. That's 532 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: almost unheard of. Can he keep this up? And then 533 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: you watch him and you're like, yeah he can. Stefon 534 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: Diggs is that good in this offense? And day Bowl 535 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: and so. But in reality you're like, man, I was 536 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: that a fluky year. We saw Josh Allen before that, 537 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: he was nothing like this. The most likely thing I 538 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: think is that it was little bit flukies. Okay, I 539 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: like give back a little bit of the gains, but 540 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: I agree with you, like he looks like it is 541 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: absolutely for real. The problem now is that a lot 542 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: of people are going to feel like, oh, well, every 543 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: quarterback with a terrible completion percentage is improvable because Josh 544 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: Allen and I'd like to see it happen with a 545 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: couple of other guys before I suddenly believe that you 546 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: can go out and find these guys with strong arms 547 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: who have no accuracy and suddenly fixed the actors accuracy. 548 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: It's very likely that Alan is just a black Swan 549 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Oh, nice usage of black Swan. Good book. 550 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: Bite to lef Uh, I will ask you said at 551 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: the outset the chargers, everybody's high on them. Everybody likes 552 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: the charges. In the Browns, the numbers say, pump the brakes, 553 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: Why about the chargers. So the funny thing is, I 554 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: think everybody is expecting a second year jump from Justin Herbert. 555 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at he had one of 556 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: the best rookie quarterback years we've ever measured, going back 557 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: to eight three. If you look at the guys who 558 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: had like the twelve best key quarterback years on average, 559 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: the next year, they were actually worse. The fact is 560 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: that the most likely time for a quarterback to take 561 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: a jump forward is his second year. So I would 562 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: expect to jump forward from Joe Burrow and I would 563 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: expect to jump forward from two attago Baloa. But what 564 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: a quarterback is already so good that he's above average 565 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: as a rookie. They don't tend to take a second 566 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: year lead because they've already kind of taken it, Like 567 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: this is already really good. He's really good. This is 568 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: where like the subjectivity comes in because you're like, Okay, 569 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: let's see who was his coach last year. Okay, oh, 570 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe he got a massive upgrade at coach because we 571 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: know last year. I'm not gonna bashi as a designer 572 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: of offenses. I mean we we bash Anthony Lynn for 573 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: things like in game decision making and time management. I 574 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: don't think we bash him as a designer of offenses. 575 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: And Brandon Staley is not designing the offenses, right, it's 576 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: Lombardi true. But what about the fact of Anthony Lynn 577 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: wants to play servatively. Hey, maybe we're not gonna throw 578 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: as much on first down. We're gonna just play safe. 579 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: And like Anthony Lynn was not super aggressive, and when 580 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: he was aggressive, it seemed like it was always at 581 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: the wrong time. I don't it's kind of an uncertainty 582 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: with Staley, right, as as head coach, we don't know. 583 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: We have no idea what head coach he'll be. As 584 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: far as aggressiveness, what is the offense will look like 585 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: under Lombardi. As far as aggressiveness, we think he'll be 586 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: aggressive on fourth down. He seems to be analytics friendly. 587 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: It seems like it's an upgraded coach. But then that 588 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: gets into the other part of our feeling about the Chargers, 589 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: which is, I think a lot of people expect you 590 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: bring in Staley and suddenly you have the Rams defense 591 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: for last year, and the fact is that there see 592 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: the problem is we want to believe that coaches have 593 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: a huge impact, but there are very few coaches who 594 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: we see them with multiple teams enough that you have 595 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: a sample size that you can actually say the impact 596 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: is the coach and not the talent on the team. 597 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: The only guy who has been proven to like improve 598 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: defenses over and over and over and over again because 599 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: he's just had enough jobs to prove it is Wade Phillips. Oh, Staley, 600 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: we saw what he did with the Rams last year, 601 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: and that's fantastic, but we don't know if he can 602 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: do it again. And even if you believe he can 603 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: do it again, if he had similar talent. He doesn't 604 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: have similar talent. Is he doesn't have Aaron Donald, he 605 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have Jalen Ramsey. Yes he has Bosa and he's 606 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: got Derwin James, but thought they played different positions. So 607 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: you can't structure the defense quite the same way as 608 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: he structured it with the Rams. He's taking a team 609 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: that played almost entirely single high last year, and now 610 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna play too high all the time. How does 611 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: the talent fit in that way? Like, there's just too 612 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: many reasons to believe that the Chargers are likely to 613 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: take time to develop on defense. They're not all of 614 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: a sudden going to be a top tend defense. All right, 615 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: we'll wrap up with the team I like a lot. 616 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if others do. I have not read 617 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: the preview yet. In Football Outsiders, I have bet the 618 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars to win the division. We just got the 619 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: new is this week. You're laughing that, uh, because I 620 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: because I can totally make the case, make the case, 621 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: because I don't need to. You make you're the good one. 622 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: You're here. We have them third in their division in 623 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: the projections. But it's not a ridiculous scenario. First of all, 624 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: the projections don't include Carson Wentz's injury yet. Yeah, we 625 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: don't know. Have you heard anything we just heard indefinitely. 626 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: That could be two weeks, that could be six weeks, 627 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: it could be. What shocks me is the news from 628 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: today about he's gonna try to get fix it with rest. 629 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: Doesn't that always lead to guys getting the surgery anyway, 630 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: just three weeks later than they should have, and they 631 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: lost their left tackle to Costanzo keep being replaced by 632 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: Eric Fisher X from the Chiefs, but coming at the 633 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: Achilles last year. So I don't know whether he's going 634 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: to be healthy for Week one, and you guys killed 635 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: whence his stats in Philly were awful, just get exact fumbles, 636 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: holding the ball too long. So I don't like that matchup. 637 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: But I'm assuming you also like the Jags a little 638 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: because the rest of the division there will be regression 639 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: from ten and the Titans down. We have the Titans down. 640 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: The Houston is a garbage fire. There you go, here's 641 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: the other thing. So here's the story you can tell 642 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: about how it can happen with Jacksonville. I like them 643 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: given the current odds. I don't think they're gonna win 644 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: the division, but given the long odds that you get 645 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence could be the real deal as a rookie 646 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: right He's He's super promising. And a lot of these 647 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: college coaches, like Urban Meyer, they have success their first 648 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: year when they can just scheme things up before a 649 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: opponents have their stuff all on film and be before 650 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: it's clear they cannot run an NFL locker room. Like 651 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: I think of all of the coaches who come out 652 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: of college who struggled to run an NFL locker room, 653 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: but it didn't usually like with Chip Kelly, like it 654 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: didn't become apparent until later on, and he had huge 655 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: successes first year. I don't think the idea of Jacksonville 656 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: as a surprise division title is not It's not ridiculous 657 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: at all. So there is some data saying the first 658 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: year college coaches come in they can have success, but 659 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: after that it peters out. You you can see a 660 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: pattern if you look at a lot of them, you 661 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: see a pattern. Nick Saban, I think, was similar, Oh wow, 662 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: that's good, Bob Bullish on Jacksonville. You can get them 663 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: like plus nine hundred to win the division. Yeah, I mean, 664 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not again, Like, if you ask me 665 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: who's gonna win the division now after for the cold's 666 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: injury or whatever, I would say Tennessee. But if you 667 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 1: say you can get plus nine hundred on it, yeah, 668 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, okay, hes Aaron Chatz. Um, Football Outsiders, 669 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: you gotta go get it, you gotta pick it up. Um, 670 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: it's worth the price of admission. Definitely will help you 671 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: with your football knowledge. Um. Do what else you got 672 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: cooking here? Before the season. You're gonna be doing a 673 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: big media tour. Yeah, We've done a lot of media 674 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: podcasts like this one. Uh, the Football Outsiders Almanac. You 675 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: can get the print copy on Amazon or the electronic 676 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: copy you get by becoming an FO plus subscriber. FO 677 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: plus is our premium service, and we actually have a 678 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: ton of good stuff coming on FO plus. We have 679 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: our Fantasy Projection tool to uh you can fit to 680 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: the rules of your league in the preseason. We have 681 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: weekly projections during the season. We have a bunch of 682 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: new fantasy tools that are going to be part of 683 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: FO plus. So there's a lot of stuff that's available. 684 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: If you go to Football Outsiders dot com and check 685 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: out fo Plus, it's not just the almanac. You get 686 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: it all as part of one package, and if you 687 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: think about it, it's not expensive. And you span it 688 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: over what a four month season and the amount of 689 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: money you're gambling and putting in fantasy, it's it's well 690 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: worth the prices. I I love it. It's great stuff. Aaron, 691 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Yeah, hey, man, enjoy your August and uh, 692 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: enjoy the season. I can't wait. I'm fired up. Yeah, 693 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: hit me up. During the season. We'll talk about where 694 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: things are awesome. Wrong about Cleveland, I may be right. 695 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: I maybe maybe we're both right about Shacksonville. That would 696 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: be lovely. I would hope you're also wrong about the Jets, 697 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: but we'll close out on that, all right, Man, Thanks 698 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: a lot, and I'll talk to you soon. Alright, talk 699 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: to you later, manh