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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you

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Speaker 1: the latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,

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Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: case Smith and Tyler Jones.

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Speaker 2: This is Rotfresh Radio, brought to you by First Light Gear.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Ksey Smith. And guess what optimism is

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Speaker 2: riding high? The bucks are in velvet, They're going everywhere,

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Speaker 2: and guys are super optimistic. But you still have to

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Speaker 2: hit the right winds, the right weather, and just the

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Speaker 2: right moment to capitalize on a big bug. This is Retfresh.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. This is rot Fresh Radio. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Casey Smith. I'm here with Tyler Jones as well, and

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Speaker 2: we have got Wired to Hunt's own Mark Kenyon on

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Speaker 2: the phone for the initial episode of rut Fresh Radio

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Speaker 2: this season. Mark, what's happening, man?

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Speaker 3: I am just very very excited because I know that

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Speaker 3: when rut Fresh Radio is hitting the airwaves, that means

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Speaker 3: on the seasons here like the thing we've been looking

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Speaker 3: forward to all year.

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Speaker 4: Is here finally.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm glad that's true. I'm glad that

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Speaker 3: this show is still going. This is like season I

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Speaker 3: don't know, we've been doing this long time. Now first

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Speaker 3: to Spencer. Now you guys on the Helm now for

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Speaker 3: your third season of rut Fresh Radio. I think that's great.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm just I love it. It's something that

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Speaker 3: Enjoyed consuming every year since we've started putting this out there,

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Speaker 3: which is kind of unique because I don't like to

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Speaker 3: listen to you know, the regular why we're done episodes

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Speaker 3: with me on there. But I like this show because

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Speaker 3: I get to listen to different people you guys, yourselves,

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Speaker 3: but then also all these different guests every week. So

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Speaker 3: it's good stuff. I'm excited we've got another season going.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know about you guys, but I'm just

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Speaker 4: to do this thing.

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Speaker 5: I guarantee you.

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Speaker 2: There's a running joke on our podcast where I say, dear,

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Speaker 2: season is getting close, and it's you know, may or something.

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Speaker 2: You know, So there's a little truth to it, of course,

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Speaker 2: but it is kind of funny, right, But it's like

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Speaker 2: a way we approach what we love to do is hunters.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, like, uh, there's this constant building excitement,

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Speaker 2: which I know you you very much appreciate as it

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Speaker 2: gets closer and closer and closer, and then now here

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Speaker 2: we are on the cusp of, you know, dear season

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Speaker 2: for everyone, and a lot of people at this point

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Speaker 2: done some hunting and that's what we're gonna fill people

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Speaker 2: in on. But the early season hot for me personally

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Speaker 2: is a little lat cluster this year because my wife

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Speaker 5: I have it to congress. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I am heading somewhere early, but it's different because it's

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Speaker 4: But you know, the Alaska thing is kind of a special.

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Speaker 2: So you feel as if the surprise component to early

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Speaker 3: One hundred per one hundred percent, these deer in early

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Speaker 2: So, you're a what I would call intelligent individual, and

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Speaker 3: No, I can't think of any reason why there would.

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Speaker 3: Argument against starting hunting season at that point. You know,

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Speaker 4: We have more deer than we can handle, and not

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Speaker 6: Sure, Yeah, we don't all get along, you know, some

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Speaker 6: But anyway, we uh, you know, we're definitely so Case

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Speaker 6: And then I'm kind of I'm kind of doing some

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Speaker 5: Thanks man. Tyler, how much does a velvet wattail mean

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Speaker 5: Right, this is what they feel like.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I do, And I think the key thing is they're like,

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Speaker 3: It's the summer, so none of these things are none

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Speaker 4: But I do like to get.

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Speaker 3: To myself, I'd say, like the summer is more like

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Speaker 4: So so yeah, I like.

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Speaker 3: To I like to get excited with folks on social media,

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Speaker 4: Share as well.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I was about to roll into that.

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Speaker 2: You know, we hunted with Mark Kenyon one time in

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Speaker 8: You're never gonna You're never gonna.

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Speaker 2: Let me, man, I'm not Maybe maybe you won't pass

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Speaker 6: But I think he's going to from what I understand,

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Speaker 6: He's right, he's looking full foot trophy.

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Speaker 5: Hunter on this one.

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Speaker 4: Right, I'm actually a vegetarian in disguise.

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Speaker 5: He's just killed him for fun. I guess.

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Speaker 2: We're joking everyone where Joe all this is a joke,

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Speaker 5: We got real busy. Well, let me back up.

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Speaker 2: We were hanging out together this summer and we're like, hey,

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Speaker 5: Out a way to hunt together. And you were like,

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Speaker 2: To go to a big buckstay and like do the

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Speaker 5: And so we put our heads together.

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Speaker 2: I think you took a water break and I started

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Speaker 2: Smaller properties in uh in Illinois that we could get

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Speaker 5: Have you been keeping up with the elements cameras.

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Speaker 3: Mark I have, it's really easy to keep up with

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Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, there's like nothing on them.

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Speaker 5: We got a pretty good buck.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I guess I'm sounding uh jaded

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Speaker 3: Well, I just know that, like all the properties we

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Speaker 3: So, I'm gonna approach this hunting season down there in

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Speaker 5: I haven't even given tylering you on xpense.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna try to spend some time in November up there,

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Speaker 5: Uh man, But I'm pumped. Man, it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, cameras are a little lackluster, but you

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Speaker 5: So I think that, Yeah, that was a joke.

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Speaker 4: Do you do go eventually?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: That actually is a good point to bring up.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, but yeah, you know, the place is you

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Speaker 9: Side of the betting aar.

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Speaker 4: So these things are.

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Speaker 3: There's go these are going to be concentrations of buck

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Speaker 3: So I'm really confident that eventually going to heat up.

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Speaker 4: But you know, right now early summer, if you're not right.

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Speaker 5: Who are we talking to this week.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking to Alex Compstock in North Dakota,

445
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: Nate Creek in Nebraska, Mark has them all the way

446
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: over in South Carolina, and then finished out with Lane

447
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 2: Hausner hunting up in Delaware. I know these fellas are

448
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 2: rip roaring and ready to go, so let's get the

449
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 2: reports from him on the phone.

450
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 5: Right now.

451
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 2: I've got Alex Comstock. He's a good old friend of mine.

452
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 2: We're from opposite ends of the world, and he is

453
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 2: in North Dakota. He's a waite tail DNA. It's his brand.

454
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of cool stuff out there, dude,

455
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: what's happening.

456
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 3: We're just grinding away in North Dakota and shooting some

457
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: bucks while we're at it.

458
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guarantee you man. I've been following along on

459
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: social with a serious fomo. Y'all are killing them.

460
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

461
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: We had a pretty good start the first couple of

462
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 3: days putting. I think we put four bucks down in

463
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 3: the first two days of the season.

464
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 5: Oh.

465
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize it was that many. I got

466
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: so lost in the sauce. I thought, y'all killed two,

467
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 2: you've killed four?

468
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 5: Four?

469
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean four in Camp one was not like

470
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,959
Speaker 3: our crew per se, but they were with us.

471
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: So I mean it's four camp Yeah, that's six? Are

472
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: y'all video? And all those are?

473
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 5: Those all on film?

474
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: Two out of the.

475
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 3: Four were I'm nice man. Two of the guys were

476
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 3: on White Tail DNA film and so.

477
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 5: That's cool, looks like. And so your cousin Caleb was

478
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 5: one of those guys.

479
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 3: Right, Caleb did not care? Oh he didn't, okay, so

480
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 3: he it was close. But we had team member Luke

481
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 3: Ellison and the team member Jeremy Lopez both shot bucks.

482
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: I've seen the look keel some stuff on your stuff,

483
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: and sure enough, I guess I got the deer kind

484
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: of confused. But I know I saw a couple of

485
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: hammers in there, and they're velvet bucks, which is awesome.

486
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 5: How many deer?

487
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 2: I know you're doing a lot of observation and so

488
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: you probably put eyes on a lot of bucks, But

489
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: how many or what's the percentage of deer that you

490
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 2: feel are still in velvet right now?

491
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: I go about fifty to fifty.

492
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, a few shed pretty early, and then there's still,

493
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 3: like Lukes was perfect pristine velvet, So I'd give it

494
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 3: right about fifty.

495
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 5: Fifty, gotcha.

496
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: I know that that's a big motivating factor for a

497
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 2: lot of guys who hunt the early season, but you know,

498
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: sometimes people don't care about it as much, but it's

499
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: a neat thing for sure. Do you feel like you're

500
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: seeing those bucks still in the bachelor groups or once

501
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: they shed, are they solo or what's the herd dynamic?

502
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 3: Like I would say, definitely still bachelor groups. Even Jeremy's

503
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: buck that he killed was hardhorned, but he was in

504
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: a bachelor group of five bucks and the other four

505
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 3: had velvet still, so he was still running with them,

506
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: so I'm they're still pretty bachelored up.

507
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 5: Gotcha.

508
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: Now are you hunting a lot of bid to food

509
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: and are you just hunting just evenings?

510
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 5: Are you mixing it up with some mornings in there too.

511
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: We attempted to do a little morning stuff, just mainly

512
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: drive around Glassing and our plan was if we found

513
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: a buck we would make a plan from there, but

514
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: that has proved to be not worth it as we

515
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: have not been seen deer in the morning, so we've

516
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 3: been just sticking to evenings.

517
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 5: Gotcha. Gotcha?

518
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: Are those deer hitting ag fields or what are you

519
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 2: usually keying in on?

520
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 8: Yeah?

521
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 3: I think out of the four bucks, I believe three

522
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: of them are killed on meanfield.

523
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 2: Wow, it's a pretty consistent thing this time of your

524
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: soybeans are where it's at?

525
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 5: How do you feel exactly?

526
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: You know, you've hunted North Dakota for quite a few

527
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: years and have a lot of experience, particularly in the

528
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 2: early season. Out there are the crops in good condition

529
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: this year? Or is there just a few really good spots?

530
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 3: They seem to be generally speaking, in really good condition.

531
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: I know they had a super wet spring, so there

532
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: are some fields that typically would be good that actually

533
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: didn't get planted, that are just like nothing. Other than that,

534
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: the fields that are planted or the craft seem to

535
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 3: be doing pretty and good.

536
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 5: Gotcha, that's cool.

537
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: You and I were talking off air for a second

538
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 2: will Ago, and it sounds like you're doing some run

539
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: and gun hanging hunt or you actually have to go

540
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: pull a set here in a second, right?

541
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 5: Is that going to be?

542
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 2: Kind of the key for having success is being versatile

543
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: and being mobile.

544
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, just moving, I mean, just trying to stay

545
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 3: up on them. I'm going to a spot where I've

546
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: seen from this tree, I've seen bucks the last two nights.

547
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 3: Last night i had one at forty five yards that

548
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: worked his way to the spot. So I'm determined with

549
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: the wind and where they're going to be, I need

550
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 3: to be there and I need to pull a set

551
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: and move around and go there. So it's going to

552
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 3: be it's a lot of mobile, I mean, bounce around,

553
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: you know, kind of going with the flow pretty much.

554
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 5: So do you feel like buck movement's pretty good right now?

555
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: It has been. I mean we had a really we

556
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: had a stellar cold front. Hit attempts are generally speaking

557
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: lower than they are the time of year, so a

558
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: Buck movement, I mean, with what we've had our success,

559
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: it's been pretty good.

560
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 5: That's awesome, man.

561
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm super stoked to see all the succests that

562
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: y'all have had up there. If someone's trying to think

563
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: about planning a trip within then went next week, or

564
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: trying to decide if it's worth getting out, what would

565
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: you rate the Buck movement your prediction for the next

566
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: week on a scale of one to ten.

567
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: I'm going to just you know, I'm a guy likes

568
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: the base things off, you know, the most recent data

569
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: and we have. It's gonna warm up here for about

570
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: the next couple of days. I think tomorrow it's gonna

571
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: do about ninety, and then it's going.

572
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 5: To drop off.

573
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 3: For Thursday, I think the highest like sixty one. Wow,

574
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: and then ranging in the next week it's pretty low.

575
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say it's probably gonna be low for

576
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 3: the next couple of days and probably Thursday on. I'm

577
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 3: gonna give it a seven.

578
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 2: Dude, just seven in September. That's some killing ratings right there.

579
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: I like it, man. Well, I appreciate the good information, Alex.

580
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: I know you're out there in the field hustling. I

581
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: appreciate how hard you work, and I hope you find

582
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: success to that.

583
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 5: Man.

584
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 4: Appreciate Casey, Thank you a lot.

585
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: I've got Lane Hausner within the presence if you want

586
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: to find him on YouTube, it's in the presence hunt

587
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: search that he is hunting in Delaware, which is pretty

588
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: unique because you think of early season watt Hill states

589
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: and you don't think about the Northeast too much, but

590
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: Delaware does have an early opener.

591
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 5: Man, what are you seeing out there?

592
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 7: Oh? Man, I'm seeing a bunch of deer. Man, that's

593
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 7: cool overfields.

594
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 5: Man. Yeah.

595
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: So you know, for folks who aren't familiar with the

596
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: concept out there, are you looking at a lot of

597
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: like corn and bean country and Delaware?

598
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty much.

599
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 10: And then it's a lot of like just blocks of

600
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 10: timber two kind of sporadic through out there too, gotcha.

601
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 8: It's a lot.

602
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 7: It's a lot of pine and you'll find some oaks too.

603
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. Okay, So are do you have oaks that

604
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 5: are dropping so far?

605
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

606
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 7: I found so far.

607
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 10: I found one way tree that's dropping and they're hitting

608
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 10: pretty heavy.

609
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 5: Gotcha. And so you're you're kind of in the hills.

610
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: There's not as much of that swamp stuff there in

611
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 2: Delaware or any of that kind of stuff.

612
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 7: Oh no, man, it's there. There ain't no hills in Delaware.

613
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 5: Flat Okay, gotcha, got you? Got you. So I know

614
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 5: you went out tonight and hunted.

615
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: Are you Are you you seeing bucks in bachelor groups

616
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 2: still or are they split up or what's the dynamic?

617
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 10: Like it's it's pretty much still bachelored up. You got

618
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 10: some some bucks that are soldo right now, but it's

619
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 10: for the most parts bachelored up.

620
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 7: I've seen I've seen all dose to night unfortunately. But

621
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 7: the other night I seen a.

622
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 10: Bachelor group of bucks and there was two pretty decent

623
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 10: ones in there.

624
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: That's cool. So in Delaware, do you get multiple buck

625
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: tags or yeah? Okay, so you can shoot a buck

626
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: in early season and still be able to hunt later

627
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 2: in the year. So are you being super picky and

628
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: trying to find one specific buck or you just trying

629
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: to look for a good encounter.

630
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 7: I'm just trying to look for a good encounter, man, experience.

631
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 7: I mean, I'll shoot a doe. I could have shot

632
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 7: those tonight if I really wanted to, But man, I

633
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 7: was like a mile and a half of the truggle.

634
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 7: I don't feel like that.

635
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 5: You know, that's a long back out, for sure.

636
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 7: That's a lot for a dough. That's a long back out.

637
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

638
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 9: Man.

639
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 7: As far as buck wise, I'm not picky.

640
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 5: Man.

641
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 10: I've never shot a velvet buck before, so honestly, if

642
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 10: a nice elbow buck presented itself, give me a good opportunity, man,

643
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 10: I'd slain one.

644
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 5: That's cool.

645
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: How many how many bucks do you feel like, on

646
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: a percentage wise are still in velvet up there Delaware?

647
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 10: I'd say majority of them, I'd say, yeah, got you cool?

648
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, you know it kind of makes sense

649
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: because it's so far north. But you know, you have

650
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: a what I would think is a different weather pattern

651
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: then a majority of the country. You know, a lot

652
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: of the country depends on or isn't dependent, but the

653
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: weather is affected by how the air moves down out

654
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: of Canada down through you know, the West and the Midwest.

655
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: But y'all are on that pretty much eastern seaboard, right,

656
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: so you're encountering different weather fronts all together. Like, are

657
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: you looking for cold ference this time of year? Or

658
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: is that even a thing?

659
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 10: I mean, it's a little bit of a thing, But

660
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 10: you know, I only got a week to hunt down

661
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 10: here before I go to Nebraska and Kansas, so I gotcha.

662
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 7: You know, it's like I'm pretty much just hunting whenever.

663
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 10: Like it's a last week, and a couple of weeks

664
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 10: before they were in a huge drought and it was

665
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 10: real hot, and then right before the opener they had

666
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 10: a huge storm and it kind of brought the temperatures down,

667
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 10: so like it's been first day, I think it was

668
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 10: like low eighties and then it rained, and then today

669
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 10: it was like high seventies, and pretty much the rest

670
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 10: of the week it's going to be I think tomorrow

671
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 10: the corn for like low seventies, and then rest of.

672
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: The week it just gradually climbs.

673
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 10: And then there's supposed to be another weather system coming

674
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 10: in Friday and Saturday.

675
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: Okay, cool. Yeah. So do you spend a lot of

676
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: time scouting the summer?

677
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 5: Yep?

678
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: So are you making moves off of thing that you

679
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: found this summer right now?

680
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 10: To be honest with you, I haven't really scouted Delaware

681
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 10: in the summer. Most of my stuff I scouted and

682
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 10: Delaware was in the winter, So I kind of came

683
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 10: down here a day early and just checked a couple

684
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 10: of good.

685
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 7: Spots that I thought might be cool, you know, I mean,

686
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 7: might be dropping acorns or whatnot, and not one of them.

687
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 10: That was so I went in there again and I

688
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 10: didn't see anything.

689
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: To be honest with you, do you ever still in there?

690
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

691
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 7: Trow cams on public and Delaware, so it may tough.

692
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, so you know you'd really it's kind of

693
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 10: just you gotta hunt it and you gotta, you know,

694
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 10: try your luck.

695
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Yeah, it makes sense, man,

696
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: it sounds it sounds kind of fun, you know. It's

697
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, guys, you went with a tread

698
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: bow or whatever it may be. You know, some restrictions

699
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: like that, you know, might affect the way you usually hunt,

700
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: but at the same time it can make things a

701
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: little sporting, you know. So if you're if you were

702
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: just kind of gonna guess right now, how do you

703
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: feel like the buck movement is? I mean not guess,

704
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: but you know, like overall compared to other years, Like,

705
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: how do you feel like it is?

706
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 7: I feel like it's pretty good.

707
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 10: I mean, my buddy's been like I know, two of

708
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 10: my buddies down here already killed one another one missed,

709
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. So I'm dude, there's there's

710
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 10: bucks moving, and I mean, if you if you're on

711
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 10: any of like the pages on Facebook, you know people

712
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 10: are posting bucks pretty much left and right yems like,

713
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 10: so people are killing them.

714
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 5: That's cool, man. How many more days you got left

715
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: before you leave?

716
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 9: Oh?

717
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 10: I got to probably Friday, and then I'll probably swing

718
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 10: over to Maryland because Maryland.

719
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 7: Opens on Friday. And I got self camp.

720
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 10: I got like a couple of self cams over there,

721
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 10: and one's just been going off non stop. So I

722
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 10: want to slide in that spot and try to kill

723
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 10: one before I got a roll.

724
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 5: Nice. That's cool. So this next question I'm going to

725
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: ask you is really pertinent to you.

726
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: Uh, if you had superdict buck movement over the next

727
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: week on a scale of one to ten, what do

728
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: you think it's going to be and why?

729
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 7: I think it would probably get a little better.

730
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 10: You probably got all the people coming down for the

731
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 10: first weekend with it being labored and stuff.

732
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 7: People I've off like today, you know.

733
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 5: What I mean.

734
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 10: So you'll probably Sunday Monday tour it up down here

735
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 10: and then I guarantee you, at least what I'm seeing,

736
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 10: most of the campers and stuff are pulling out. It

737
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 10: seems like, so I guarantee you. You know, Bucks will

738
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 10: kind of feel the pressure is kind of changing a

739
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 10: little bit, and he's back off, and you know they'll

740
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 10: be hitting once once all the corn and beans come down.

741
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 10: You know, they'll be hitting acorns hard once they start

742
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 10: like actually dropping dropping heavy.

743
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 7: You know. So I feel like it'll only.

744
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 5: Get better to be so for in this week, what's

745
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 5: the what's the number from one to ten?

746
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 7: I'd say this week probably like six seven.

747
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty optimistic, man, I like it. Well, if

748
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: you're calling six or seven, you better kill one, you

749
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: know better?

750
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 7: How better put my money around my mouth?

751
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 5: That's right, dude.

752
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: Well, hey, really appreciate the good report there and look

753
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: forward to talking to you the rest of the season.

754
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 5: It sounds like you got a lot going on.

755
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, I appreciate you having me on. Thank you.

756
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 5: This is Mark Haslam with Southeast Wide Tail.

757
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: He is in the great state of South Carolina most

758
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: of the time.

759
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 5: At least, Mark, what's happening man.

760
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 8: Now much?

761
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: Man?

762
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 8: Case? I just got back from the farm.

763
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 9: Have the kids up there labor the weekend and it

764
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 9: was hot, but I'm I'm already ready to get back

765
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 9: up there.

766
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 5: I bet dude again. Y'all, y'all get after it real hard.

767
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: It's always fun too to to kind of watch how

768
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: things progress with you on social media because y'all are

769
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: always killing stuff way earlier than anybody else, and you've

770
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: got to beat on them.

771
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: So it's very cool.

772
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: But I have a big question for you, For us

773
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: that don't know, It's might be a little confusing, but

774
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: is the whole state of South Carolina the low Country

775
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: or is that a specific area?

776
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 5: And are you there?

777
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 8: So the low Country is a specific region?

778
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 5: Gotcha?

779
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 9: It runs It really starts down and Runswick, Georgia, but

780
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 9: in South Carolina it runs all the way to Charleston,

781
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 9: South Carolina, from the Georgia side sept from the Savannah River.

782
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 8: It's about Charleston and it goes inland.

783
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 9: How far it goes to inland Some people will say

784
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 9: it's very tight, like in our state ninety five. Other

785
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 9: people will say it'll go as far as inland is

786
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 9: like an hour hour and a half. So we are

787
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 9: we are just across the line in the Midlands Midges.

788
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha, Yeah, what did the beer doing in the

789
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 5: Midlands right now? Man?

790
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 8: Right now they are.

791
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 9: We're starting to see them shifts, starting to see them

792
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 9: shift pretty well. The majority of the state opened up

793
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 9: August fifteenth.

794
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 8: The very top part of the state opens September fifteenth.

795
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 9: But they right now most of these deer low country

796
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 9: Midlands areas games down three and four. They have been

797
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 9: hit hard for the past three past you know, over

798
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 9: over two going three weeks now, with with with folks hunting,

799
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 9: people putting up trail cameras and food plots and feeders

800
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 9: and deer stands and trimming, so all of a sudden,

801
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 9: the woods were kind of sitting idle for the most part,

802
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 9: except for foresters and farmers.

803
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 8: And now all of a sudden they've been bombarded.

804
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 9: So if you have some isolated fields or food plots

805
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 9: or some airs that you know haven't been touched yet

806
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 9: with human presence, it's going to be golden.

807
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: Uh.

808
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 8: Some of these deer are still on some summer patterns,

809
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 8: but for the most.

810
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 9: Part, bucks in velvet they have been They typically start

811
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 9: peeling the third week in.

812
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 8: August, and right now, if you see a buck in velvet.

813
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 9: It is probably gonna be a one year old, you know,

814
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 9: a spike or a real small six seven eight point

815
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 9: got you.

816
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 8: So they're starting to they're starting to.

817
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,959
Speaker 2: Shift, yeah, sure. So are those deer still eating agriculture?

818
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: Are they kind of moving over to acrons? You'll have

819
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: me acrons dropping.

820
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 8: No acorns for the most part dropping.

821
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 9: Yet we'll have the folks that plant saw tooth salt

822
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 9: sawtooth oaks and start dropping pretty soon for people. We've

823
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 9: got some of those, But right now they are still

824
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 9: pounding ag fields and food plots. But if you had

825
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 9: that human presence out there already hunting them or start

826
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 9: kind of messing around them, they're gonna shift back a

827
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 9: little bit.

828
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 8: And then I'm gonna come.

829
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 9: Out two hours before last light and in the heat

830
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 9: of you know, of the sun. They're they're gonna wait

831
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 9: till that right last light, Yeah, and slip out.

832
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: So I know that in the past, I've talked to

833
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: you and some people that have hunted with you, and

834
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 2: y'all actually find success in the mornings, oftentimes in early season,

835
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: which is a little different.

836
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 5: Is that a thing that you're you're still targeting right now?

837
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

838
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 8: I haven't done.

839
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 9: I haven't done much of that because I've been taking

840
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 9: my kids so far this year. But this weekend I'm

841
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 9: going solo. We got some cool temps down in the eighties,

842
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 9: which is cool for us.

843
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand this.

844
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 8: In the mornings, that's right just center seventy.

845
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 9: So with these bucks, I'm gonna be hanging and climbing

846
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 9: right outside some betting areas. And so what I found

847
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 9: is cooler mornings early season. Yeah, these bucks, they're gonna

848
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 9: be out of the open fields. They're gonna be out,

849
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 9: you know, of the open areas by great light. But

850
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 9: they're gonna be drifting back to betting and they're gonna

851
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 9: take their time because they're gonna eat.

852
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 8: They're gonna eat.

853
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 9: All the way there, and so just kind of find

854
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 9: some good, tight areas where they can feel safe.

855
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. So how do you feel like the

856
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: buck movement is right now? I mean, i'd say it's

857
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: about seven. Yeah, it's about seven.

858
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 9: And the reason why I wouldn't say it's more, it's

859
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 9: just because if you're hunting those open fields, open areas

860
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 9: is there have been gunshots everywhere and they are I mean,

861
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 9: there's just people out about hunting and dear, it's it's

862
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 9: an initial shot that I see, you know, to where

863
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 9: they're not leaving your property, but all the sut all

864
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 9: of a sudden they get hit hard with presents. So

865
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 9: they're still moving around, but they're but they are now

866
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 9: shifting around the hunters.

867
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, man, that's cool, dude.

868
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: Well seven is pretty good, you know, Like that makes

869
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: me optimistic about wanting to get in the woods. So

870
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: I think if anybody's in your general region, then it's

871
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: still the getting time, I would imagine.

872
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 5: And I know you're gonna be getting after it too.

873
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: Man. I can't wait to see how the rest of

874
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: it your season plays out. I know you all gonna

875
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: lay some down.

876
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 8: That's the plan.

877
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 9: That's the plan, and and then the and the real

878
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 9: fun part starts September fifteenth across the state when we

879
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 9: can start laying down doors. And that's that's what the

880
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 9: fun is.

881
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, feeling the freezer and everybody he gets to shoot

882
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: some stuff.

883
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: That's that's a good time, man.

884
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 4: Sure.

885
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Mark, we appreciate the report, man, and I'm

886
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: sure I'll be reaching back out to you again.

887
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 8: Sounds good.

888
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: This is Nate Creek with identical draw. Him and his

889
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: brother get after it a lot of times in some

890
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: of the more Western stuff. But y'all hunt practically all

891
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: over the country. What's up man, Hey, not much.

892
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: It's hunting season.

893
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, man, it's like whatever. You're just general

894
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: temperament was it's like plus two from here until the

895
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: end of December. Yeah, that's right, that's right. Just just

896
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: more smiles in general. So that's great man.

897
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 5: Uh.

898
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: So you've been doing some hunting in Nebraska and that

899
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: Nebraska's home for you?

900
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, Yeah, Nebraska's home.

901
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 3: So it seems like usually start up right here because

902
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 3: they have an early opener, so it works out pretty well.

903
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, for sure.

904
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: You actually get to just see a whole bunch of

905
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: out of state hunters, uh, you know, come into your

906
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 2: state exactly.

907
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: It's perfect.

908
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. So in general, how is Nebraska this year?

909
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 2: We're looking at a wet year, a dry year. What's

910
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: going on?

911
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: Uh?

912
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like there's pockets of dryness, but

913
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: I can't complain. We had a ton of moisture from

914
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 3: what's typical this summer. Our fall plots are doing well.

915
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: We got those in like we I mean in the

916
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, we've had some I mean some

917
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: heavy rains whether we're getting over a couple of inches,

918
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: So yeah.

919
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 4: I really can't complain. It's that I feel like.

920
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: The summer was I mean, we had our hot, dry stretches,

921
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: but overall it was pretty good on things. So we

922
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: saw some pretty good deer growth. I feel like there's

923
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: a bunch of big ones around this year. So yeah,

924
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: it's the summer went pretty well here, So that's cool.

925
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you're talking about planting plots and stuff.

926
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: And I can only imagine in a state that is

927
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: defined by agg fields full of beans and corn, that

928
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: you have to be creative with food plots. What are

929
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: you planting and what are you targeting to draw deer

930
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: over from just that general good feed they get from

931
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: the agriculture, right.

932
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 4: So you know, it kind of depends.

933
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: So like on our family place in Kansas, we do

934
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: a bunch of management stuff and like our prescribed fire

935
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: in the off season is truly the best food plots

936
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: that we have in the whole property. We don't plant anything,

937
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: it's just that new growth. We have cameras on our

938
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: new growth, and we have cameras on our bean plots,

939
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: our new growth with that green like just leafy material,

940
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: like those plants that the deer are in that more

941
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: than our food plots, which is honestly insane.

942
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: And but yeah, we play a ton of like right now,

943
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: our fall plots.

944
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 7: We just put in a.

945
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 3: Bunch of clovers and peas and brass cus and things

946
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: that are going to last and stay green throughout the

947
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: winter season. But right now, like what we're focusing on

948
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: is this this early week September.

949
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 4: I mean it's basically still summer. I mean it is, it's.

950
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: Fall seasons here, but I mean we're still hunting Nebraska.

951
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 3: We're lucky you can still hunt some of those summer

952
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: bucks on their patterns and so a lot of the

953
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: times we're finding them in those big green bean fields.

954
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: But we hunted Opener this last Sunday, and I watched

955
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 3: several does get up from their beds brows the field

956
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 3: edges just on natural brows.

957
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: Just what was coming up.

958
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: There's some poison ities just different natural food sources.

959
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: Didn't even touch the.

960
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: Bean field, just worked around through like the timber that

961
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: there are some sunlight in some green popping up. And

962
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: I thought that was really interesting because I feel like

963
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: right now is just a ton of emphasis on that.

964
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: But man, there are just these niche food sources that

965
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: deer honestly prefer more than our perfectly pristine food plots

966
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: that we try so hard.

967
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 4: So I think that's.

968
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: Honestly a huge thing scouting this time of the year,

969
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: not really going for that big act, but just finding

970
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 3: that little pockets of.

971
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 4: Preferred, dear, dear food that they're going to be hidden.

972
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, the how visual deer are in

973
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: the early season is always a bit fit. And then

974
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: I think that too, especially living in a more western state.

975
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: You know the benefit of the rolling terrain and being

976
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: able to use your glass and your benefit. Yeah, it

977
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: has to be a huge part of your hunting, right

978
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: for sure.

979
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Like we we uh, we were hunting

980
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: the spot that this week that I mean we could

981
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: see I mean like pretty much miles.

982
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: I mean in one direction.

983
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: We have tons of good visibility in other directions and

984
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: that and that kind of sit is it's a hunt,

985
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: you got the.

986
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 4: Bow locked and loaded, but it's it's also just like

987
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: a big time observation.

988
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 7: Sit just trying to hone things in.

989
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's sometimes the best thing you can

990
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: do this time of the year. Obviously you can use

991
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: some some trail cameras depending on your property and things

992
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: like that. But man, if you can get eyes on

993
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: deer kind of doing some similar things a couple of

994
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 3: days in a row and then be able to go

995
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: in and strike, I feel like that's one way to

996
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: really kill a buck.

997
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely agree, man, and y'all see to be

998
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: pretty good at it. Dude, how many of the deer

999
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: or what percentage of the deer still have velvet?

1000
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 8: You know?

1001
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: I was just talking to a buddy about that today.

1002
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: I feel like they are shedding so early. I there's

1003
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: only a handful of bucks that I've seen a camera

1004
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: in the last week that's still a velvet, most of

1005
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: the big ones that we were chasing.

1006
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: I just got.

1007
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: Pictures last night of a deer just in northeast Kansas

1008
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: and he was completely shed, hard worn. Most of the

1009
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: deer on Nebraska stuff that we've been hot and have

1010
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: been all hard worn, which I feel like some years

1011
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: it's like that, But I feel like some years you

1012
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 3: also get the first seven to ten days of September

1013
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: where they're going to be holding Velvet's hard pretty so

1014
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: it's like, I don't know, it's I think most of

1015
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 3: them have shed which kind of makes things a little

1016
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: weird for this opener. I feel like deer kind of

1017
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: during this shedding phase they kind of vanish and they

1018
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: just kind of like get that stuff off. They kind

1019
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: of shake off the summer and are kind of changing mentality.

1020
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: Because some of our cameras, some of them have been

1021
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 3: super hot with these deer coming like coming back to

1022
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: the properties after shedding, But some of them, some of

1023
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: these big bucks are just kind of vanished, and I

1024
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: feel like they take like a few days kind of

1025
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: like like change mindsets a little bit, kind of go

1026
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: test the new waters elsewhere.

1027
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 7: When they're shedding.

1028
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, yep, I could see that for sure. Man.

1029
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 5: Well cool if as you look forward to the next week.

1030
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: With some weather fronts moving through and other things, you know,

1031
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: I know that plays a lot into it. If you

1032
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 2: were going to rate the buck movement on a scale

1033
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: of one to ten, what are you predict it to be?

1034
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 4: You know, I think buck movement is going to be

1035
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: pretty good for this first week. Yeah, like you said, there's.

1036
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: Some weather moving in, I think you could probably see

1037
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: six or seven out of ten on the buck movement,

1038
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: which for this time of the year, it's pretty good.

1039
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: I've hunted most most early season weeks. I mean, I

1040
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: feel like you're outing ninety degrees and movement could just

1041
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: be the last minute of the day.

1042
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 4: But I mean, we're we're seeing in some low seventies

1043
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 4: this this late this week. Those are highs. So those

1044
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 4: are for high wow.

1045
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, dipping into like upper forties for lows and highs

1046
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: in the seventies.

1047
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: So I think on those days, i'd be in a treat.

1048
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 3: I think that they're going to be moving early and

1049
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: you could have a really good shot.

1050
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 2: Oh man, that gets me pumped. I'm excited for y'all.

1051
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm on a little bit of a hiatus here in

1052
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: early September, but I know y'allre going to get after it.

1053
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: And I'm living vicariously through you, man, So I appreciate

1054
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: the good report and I just can't help but wish

1055
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 2: you well this season.

1056
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 9: Man.

1057
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 5: I know it's going to be a lost one.

1058
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: Yep, it's gonna be last things dude.

1059
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: As you can tell, hunters are riding high on optimism

1060
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: and there's good reason for it.

1061
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 5: Right.

1062
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: That's early season. The bucks are in velvet, they're moving around.

1063
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: It's a ton of fun to get out there, but

1064
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: there's some critical things you need to consider. And over

1065
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: on the wire to Hunt feed, Tony Peterson has an

1066
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: article called how to call in early season Bucks, which

1067
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: I think is super intriguing. Oftentimes guys are sitting there

1068
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: in ambush waiting on deer, but if you can manipulate

1069
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: their move ments, man, that is such an as in

1070
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: the hole for you. Also, go over the Element YouTube channel.

1071
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 2: There's a couple of new pieces on wat tail. Over there,

1072
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: there's an episode of our hunt in Arkansas last year

1073
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: that you don't want to miss. Lots of trials within

1074
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: that episode, shall I say, as well as a video

1075
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: that I made about how to hunt deer from the

1076
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: ground and the things that you're messing up to find success.

1077
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: So go check those things out. Really appreciate you, guys.

1078
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: This has been Reugh Fresh Radio