1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lande, 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. No. 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and new He scrugs. 5 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: All right here we are trying to figure this thing 6 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: out on a Tuesday. I'm doing scrugs. Walk to the 7 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: players lane. I'm a long time Cowboys reporter, joined by 8 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Barry Church and Danny mccraig, two former Dallas Cowboy players. 9 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: All right, let me use a good old Jason Garrett line. 10 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: How are you doing, guys. I'm doing good. I'm doing 11 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: good over here, man. I'm just you know, I'm doing good. 12 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm good. Man. I'm checking out that that big elephant 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: behind Church head back there, man, what you got the man? Yeah, 14 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: the elephant TuS the elephant tusks coming off the back. 15 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: You know, it's all over the place right now. That's 16 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: it's crazy right now. Okay. I thought it was. I 17 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: thought I thought it gave you some of your special 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: nocial novice powers or something. I didn't know. I think 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 1: it was the art that she was getting the vibe 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: the vibe coming back in the art. I got you 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: y'all day coming y'all, Like I said, y'all have y'all day. 22 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Y'all's coming. Though it's coming, it's not coming like you've 23 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: made it come. Okay. So, by the way, Danny, before 24 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: the show, I was filling out my picks for the 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Dallas Morning News for the NFL picks. I made sure 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: that I did it by myself this week because that's 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: so much ground, the cover up that Barry messed up 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: last while, Church against the spread. Church you were three 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: ft eleven. Man, you only got hold y'all from the jump. 30 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: I told y'all from the jump. The spread was never 31 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: a part of this. It was always was too Yeah, 32 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: the church straight up you were five or nine. I mean, 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, you're worse picking them straight 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: because those are the easiest ones to pick. It gets bad. 35 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: No no, no, no no, no no no no no no 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: no no no. You said five up nine no five 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: and nine and nine five five five four little time 38 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: of them all? You know what that was last week? 39 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: That was last week man, literally with el Man. This 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: thing is literally with el So yes, I made my 41 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: picks this week without consulting Barry, because now I got 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: a whole lot of ground to make up. Now, what 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: I didn't do, or what I find out a little 44 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: bit later on, is how you did against everybody else. 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah kay, I'll have that little bit later on to 46 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: see how you didn't get steppingwhere else. But I'm gonna 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: still get the biggest L of all though, y'all gonna 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: see I'm gonna still get the biggest W of all 49 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Y'all a streamer, Okay, brother, 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, you you you don't. Don't you 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: don't let your wife know you picking games with no 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: money involved. Okay, Okay, you know baby ain't gonna have 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: no diapers if you put money on these picks. Okay, 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: So so don't you do that, don't. I said, y'all 55 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: day's coming, man, y'all day is somebody's paying you. Bro. 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm convinced because this three, this is one, this one 57 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: eighty that you made, you know, from not drinking the 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: kool aid to making fun of new It, and all 59 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now you sipping the kool aid, tod 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: you saw what they put out there on the field, 61 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: and you decided to take another simp and say they're 62 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna win the championship. See how I see how I 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: wrong with that one. He's a chef. I'm in there. 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta go with the kitchen. I 65 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: gotta sip with the kitchen. Man. I'm I'm a chef. 66 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm cooking it up man. Okay Lands Lounge brought to 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: you by Hotels dot Com. Jerry Jones on one or 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: five three, the fans set there is no leadership void 69 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: on this football team. Let me read you his quote. 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: But seriously, where would you have a leadership void? Is 71 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: it an experienced void? Is it a talent void? Is 72 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: it a leadership void. I'm not trying to be cute here. 73 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: The answer is no. The answer is no. Well shut 74 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: up and let me answer it. No. That's the exchange 75 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: he had with Sean Sharif and r J Chopping. So 76 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: no leadership void, per Jerry Jumps. I don't I don't 77 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: know if I want to comment on that one, we 78 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: might I might not be on the show no more. 79 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: My man, man salty, Hey be quiet and let me 80 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: talk or else. I'm just let you know, all right, 81 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: we don't have no leadership problems. But but you but 82 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: the truth is, you do you got you got big 83 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: leadership problems. And that's coming from somebody who was in 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: the locker room yours, and uh, you know it's it's 85 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: it's an issue. So maybe maybe they'll get it fixed. 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: He sees something that we don't see because he's in 87 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: this current locker room. But from the outside looking in, 88 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: I think ninety nine percent of the people's watch this 89 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: team says the same thing. So I mean, I think 90 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: he was frustrated because he's hurt that so much, and 91 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: that was just the start that broke the camera's back. Yeah, man, yeah, 92 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, of course, I think you know 93 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: they have leadership issues. I mean it's it's definitely you know, 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: you could you could see it the writings on the wall. 95 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean when you got players coming out saying, you know, 96 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: we don't agree with this system or this system doesn't 97 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: work with us, and you got anonymous quote saying nobody 98 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: believes in what the coach is doing. And then the 99 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: coach is going on on the media talking about, well, 100 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: they need to say it with their chest, they need 101 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: to have some pride and put some name behind it. 102 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: And then the supposed leaders of the team go out 103 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: there and say yeah, that and that. You know, people 104 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: saying without without without anonymously. You know, that's a coward move. 105 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: So I mean there's definitely, you know, leadership issue because 106 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: if you had that bona fide leader, if you had 107 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: that guy that can basically shut everything down on the 108 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: locker room before it even gets out like that, none 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: of this would have happened. So for me, we definitely 110 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: have a little bit of issue right here. But we 111 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: got to get it resolved. We gotta get it resolved, 112 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if we're gonna be able to 113 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: do that by the end of the year. But there's 114 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: something that needs to get a handle and handle fast. 115 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: You you left out the hustle part. Don't forget that 116 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: impossible to hustle too. That's that's what you're starting. You're starting. 117 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: Safety said that. You know, man, that's and that's the 118 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: example for your team. Hey man, I can't do it 119 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: the whole game, So I'm gonna give you a little bit, 120 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: but every other place, you know, I'm gonna take off 121 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. And you know, y'all serious, I mean, 122 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: it's impossible. You don't really expect me to hustle the 123 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: whole game, do you I think? Come on, bro, come on, 124 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: I mean all they gotta all I gotta do is 125 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: show that that DK metcalf that cut. I mean when 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: when he you know, he chased down Blue Baker, who's 127 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: one of the fastest dbs in the league, chased him down, 128 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, after a long drive. So, I mean, we 129 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: gotta fix something. Man. You got like you said, you 130 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: got safeties out here talking about Nah, we can't do 131 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: that for one hundred percent? Are you kidding me? I mean, 132 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: this is it's ridiculous. Man. Hey, look he said there's 133 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: no void. Okay, So he said there's no leadership void. 134 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: And I will file that under what Bill Parcels used 135 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: to saying. All I can go by is what I see. 136 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: Jerry's in the room. He may see it differently, but 137 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: from what I see, I do think that there's a 138 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: leadership boy. Scott Shanley as a former Dallas Cowboys linebacker 139 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: who ended up going over to the Saints and winning 140 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and he put out a tweet last 141 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: week when James Slater had put out that put out 142 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: the tweet about the anonymous sources, and he said, wait 143 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: a minute, these are the same players who were complaining 144 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: about Jason Garrett, Rob Baronelli. Now that's in here complaining 145 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: about a new staff. Maybe it's the guys, you know, 146 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: put this on the guys. And so look, there's no 147 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: matter what Jerry says, they've got an issue here where 148 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: they're not just losing games, they're getting blown out. And 149 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: you're getting blown out by teams that just like, okay, 150 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: nobody blowing them. Mout's gonna end up in the Super 151 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: bowls year. I'm pretty comfident. I don't see the Browns 152 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: playing in Super Bowl this year. I don't see Washington 153 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: playing in Super Bowl this year. Okay, Now, these are 154 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: the teams that are blowing the wars off of them. 155 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: And Jerry did say on his radio show today that 156 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: there will be changes on the defensive lunt he did 157 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: say there'll be changes, and um, he did allude that 158 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: don Terry Poe is a guy that that uh, you know, 159 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: he may be finished with. So he had changed right 160 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: there with Terry Pop. Let me tell you so, let 161 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: me tell you something two things. Let me let me 162 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: get this. First of all, we got a lot a 163 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: lot of the moree getting blown out to do for 164 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: the season night. So some of the teams that blow 165 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: us out might be playing in the Super Bowl. H too. Listen, 166 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: my man Terry Poe was the only person took a knee. Listen. 167 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: His time was coming sometime soon anyways. And three listen, 168 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: we we we we throw a leadership out there a lot. 169 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: So I just want everybody to know what we mean 170 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: when we say leadership. When when you have a guy 171 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: that's a leader in the locker room, like a Jason 172 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: Wooden or DeMarcus Ware, the younger players are are the 173 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: people that follow him. They can wash the way that 174 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: he works out, They can wash the way that he 175 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: take care care of his body. They can watch the 176 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: way that they practices, they can watch the way that 177 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: these studies, and they can follow him and they have 178 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: an example for how to do it. So when you 179 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: watch the markets where play, you don't see him lofa. 180 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: When you see when he's studying film, he's doing it, 181 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, a particular way so he can really get 182 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: a read on something, so he's not just watching tape. 183 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: He's actually trying to get an advantage. These are things 184 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: that the leader leader does and then they take the 185 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: younger guys along with them. So then you have everybody 186 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: playing hard, everybody's studying, everybody taking care of the body 187 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: so they can be the best that they can be 188 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: when there on the fields. And so that's what we're saying. 189 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: When when they saying that they missing something to Marcus, 190 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: you know he's not going to be anonymous source to 191 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: the to the media. Like all these things are what 192 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: a leader would do. So we say leadership, that's what 193 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: we mean. They lead off the field and on the 194 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: field by example. But who can you see outside outside 195 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: of four and maybe you know Sean Lee, is there 196 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: anybody you see on this team that has that, you know, 197 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: capability that can that can lead these guys or at 198 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: least put them in the right direction. I'll tell you this. 199 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: It's it's it's crazy because you know, the best part 200 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: of our team, even probably the oldest part was the 201 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: offensive line. But you know how the offensive line is, man, 202 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: they hang they hang around each other. It's real difficult 203 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: for offensive lineman to be a leader of the team, 204 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: right because there they hang around and they're clicking. Everybody 205 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: respects them and they see how they work out, but 206 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: they're usually not the vocal the vocal guys at least 207 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: in the Cowboys locker room that I was in. So 208 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to find one of those guys. 209 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: Byron was probably one of those guys. Jeff Heath was 210 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: one of those guys. But you know that, you know 211 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: they're no longer here. Jalen is trying to be but 212 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: you know, the play on the field sometimes just doesn't 213 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: doesn't show. I think he has the ability to be 214 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: that guy, but uh, you know it's so far it 215 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: just hadn't showed up. All right. So m more on 216 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: leadership from Jerry Jones today on his weekly interview one 217 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: or five three of the Fan And when he was 218 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: asked about does he see leadership quote, you're not asking 219 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: me that. I gave you the answer when I go 220 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: into the locker room, there's no leadership void in my eyes. 221 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: Now there's your answer. Let's move on to Jerry Heats. Yeah. 222 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: See that's not you know, when he's going in the 223 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: locker room, especially after a blowout loss. I mean he's 224 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: probably just seeing guys vent and guys being angry, you know, 225 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: guys over there talking about man, but get your act together. 226 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: We could have been this better. We could have did 227 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: that better. You know that. You know it's all good 228 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: when after the fact, but you know, true leadership and 229 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: true guys that lead that locker room. I mean you're 230 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: seeing that the whole week leading up to the game. 231 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: You're seeing those guys like you know, Sean Lee to 232 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Jason Wittens of the world when we were there showing 233 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: guys how to prepare it each and every day, you know, 234 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: getting in guys grill, getting in guy's face and letting 235 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: them know at practice that hey, this isn't the right way. 236 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: We gotta hustle, we gotta do this. And that's what 237 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: you should be seeing all the way up to the 238 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: locker room, not just you know, after a blowout, after 239 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: a blowout loss or or maybe even a win, guys 240 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: venting and guys saying yeah, because then anybody's it's easy 241 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: to be a leader. Then So for me, I mean, 242 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: you just gotta, like like mcrai said, we just need 243 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: somebody to step up and get into that position where 244 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: they can lead these guys throughout the whole week. And 245 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, Sean Lee not being there, I mean, that's 246 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: that's a that's a big, you know hit to the 247 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: leadership board and Also, you cannot just be come a 248 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: leader today if they don't have one yet, they're not 249 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: finding one, all right. So it's not it's not something 250 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: that you could just turn on this week, all right. 251 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: So that's something that happens through our workouts, you know, 252 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: through time and experience with a guy. You know, you 253 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: see him do all this type of stuff, and so 254 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: far we hadn't seen anybody you know, do that type 255 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: of stuff. So, like I said, Sean Lee would be 256 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: a help just just straight off, you know, being on 257 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: the field and being that type of leader. Okay, so 258 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: let me just ask this question, Tank Lawrence doesn't figure intodition. 259 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: You're talking about ladyship. A guy who when they gave 260 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: him the contract, it's a highest pay contract in cowboy history, 261 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: you don't consider it leader. I mean, see that's you know, 262 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: that's where it comes up every a lot of people think, 263 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: you know, just because you know, this guy's got the 264 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: highest contract or this guy's the best player on the 265 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: team when it comes to being on the football field 266 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: and doesn't necessarily make them the you know, greatest leaders 267 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: for the whole team. I mean, and I think that's 268 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: what made that so valuable to this franchise because not 269 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: only was he a playmaker, not only did he lead 270 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: this team on the field and get people going in 271 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: the right direction and kind of have that juice, but 272 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: you see it off the field, he showed he was 273 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: showing this team how to go about things, how to practice, 274 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: how to how to be a you know, a consummate 275 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: pro because he was taught by that from you know, 276 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: the Romos in the in the Witness of the World. 277 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: So that just goes to show you how valuable a 278 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: guy like that is. But you know, just because you're 279 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: the highest paid or the best doesn't mean you're a 280 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: great leader all around. You just told me no. You 281 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: just told me no. So I asked you, I'm not 282 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: gonna say that. Yeah, I'm not. I'm right now. The 283 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: leadership void is there. And I think because the season 284 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: has been so bad that you know, it's so glaring, 285 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: um that that some guys will have to learn how 286 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: to do it in these tough situations because a lot 287 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: of these guys haven't been in a situation like this. Um. 288 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think they can, but I think 289 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: right now it's probably a little bit too late, because 290 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, you already got some of that stuff seeping in. 291 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: You've already had your team meetings, and now you just 292 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: it's crazy that you're waiting for sean leader to come back. 293 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting here like he's gonna be the leaders? 294 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: He are they gonna start lead? You know? Is he 295 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: gonna be leading from the sideline. It's it's crazy. The 296 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: situation that they're in is real crazy. Okay, Danny, I'm 297 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: just gonna I'm just based on what what you just 298 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: told me in church, has just told me. I've asked 299 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: the question. It's Tank Lawrence. Is he a leader? A 300 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: guy that they made the highest paid player cowboy history. 301 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm not hearing either one of you said yes. He 302 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: let me cleared up. Let me cleared up, Let me 303 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: cleared up. He is. Yes, he's a leader. He's no listen, 304 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: he's a leader. He's not leading all right? Him, he's 305 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: a leader. He is not leading right now. We have 306 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: seen him be a leader on the defense. We've seen 307 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: him gallant, get those guys together, especially the line. We've 308 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: seen him, you know, show those characteristics. Right now, he's 309 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: not leading, okay. Yeah, So so when Jerry says there's 310 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: a leadership, boy, you guys just listen to what you're 311 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: telling me is there is a leadership boy. And right now, 312 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: according to just listening to you guys and some other 313 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: people who do podcasts here on the Dallas Cowboys, they're 314 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: they're expecting Sean Leader ride in with a white horse. 315 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: That we're counting on a dude who, with all due respect, 316 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: plays hard. But they ain't available a whole lot. So 317 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: this guy is supposed to. Don't you know? They just 318 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: attached this growing back and he gonna run out here. 319 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: You're just adding Sean Lee is not going to be, 320 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, the answer to all problems. I mean, will 321 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: it help? I mean yeah, I mean he might do 322 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: more help off the fielding on, but I mean he's 323 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: not gonna come in here and just be the answer 324 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: to everything. I mean, but anything can help. I mean 325 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: we're at the low of lows right now, so any 326 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: anything can help. He won't. He won't be the answer. 327 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: But but listen, I can guarantee you when he's on 328 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: the field, he will hold those guys accountable and they 329 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: will play a lot harder. I can almost guarantee you 330 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: that there will be a lot less loafing. Guys will 331 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: be on attention to detail, they'll know what's coming. He 332 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: will be called all in out certain things. The defensive 333 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: look totally different, and those guys would be held accountable 334 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: because they're gonna play hard for a guy who's playing 335 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: like Sean Lee and the guy who has that type 336 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: of experience and carriage, that type of leadership. I believe that. 337 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know, they go out here and 338 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, shut nobody out, but you I think you'll 339 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: see a different attitude from him when when he's actually 340 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: on the field. That's what I'm saying. Well, I don't 341 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: know when he's gonna be on there, how they're gonna 342 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: how they're gonna run that with Nolan. You know, maybe 343 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: after he get the house out side is out here 344 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: to figure out the way to get Sean involved. Okay, 345 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: my bad, bad, My bad. I had to I had to, 346 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: My bad. No, it was funny. It was funny. I 347 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: almost almost put a thing of houseuce right here on camera, 348 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: but you know, I didn't want to get you into it. 349 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: It was funny. Man, he knew that he knew that 350 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: was coming from somebody. Hey boys throwing shots, man, that's 351 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: why mmmmm, let's dive into that. 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We'd like to bring in their perspective 402 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: on how these things are going here with the club 403 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: as they try to rebound from a embarrassing loss against 404 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: Washington heading into a first place deficient showdown with the 405 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles on first place football. The winner will be 406 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: in first place. You said it right, and Barry is 407 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: drinking gallons and gallons of this koo leg saying that 408 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to win the NFC East. We 409 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: do not have a confirmation yet that Ben Denucci will start, 410 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: but Andy Dalton is still in protocol and has not 411 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: practiced yet. So the rookie from James Madison is possibly 412 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: going to lead the Cowboys and a first place showdown 413 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: against the Eagles at the Vet and Church is drinking 414 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: the kooleg Church the seven and a half point. Oh, 415 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: now we change now, okay, okay, now we switch it yesterday. 416 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: If that would have had no disrespect to mister de Nucci, 417 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: But if that would have happened and he would have 418 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: come in there and lead this team, you know, in 419 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: in at the link, I mean you know, I'd have 420 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: to I'd have to go ahead and switch up on 421 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: that one. I mean, that's who. That's gonna be a 422 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: tough position to be in for him, behind that offensive 423 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: line and at that place who it's gonna be tough. 424 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: I'm still confused. I don't I don't understand how how 425 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: how you make this one eighty You talk about all 426 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: these qualified, all these qualifiers, man, you're all these qualified. No, 427 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: I told all this, yes, if he if it's if 428 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: he goes. If he's out there, then it's it's just 429 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. It's just it's a rap. So 430 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: he's telemating out there. So so if you pick so, 431 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: if you so, if Andy Dunton starts the game, and 432 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: if Ben de Nucci comes in at any time, then 433 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: you your your pick is switched. I'm no, I'm saying. 434 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: If if Dalton's starting the game, then a you know, 435 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: I gotta rad with it, you know what I'm saying. 436 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: But if if the Nuci starting, that's I mean, that's 437 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: a couple. Okay, all right, I can, I can, Okay, 438 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: I can see that. I give you that one, give you. 439 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, I appreciate the church. I will tell 440 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: you this. I don't think dawnans playing, Okay, I don't. 441 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Andy dawnons playing. I was watching that 442 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: hit again and to see the force in which Foster 443 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: came down and you see Andy's head immediately pop down 444 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: on that FedEx turf and then the helmet pops off, 445 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: And for me, the first thing I thought of, I 446 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: just said, man, that's a CTE type hit. There's no 447 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: way in the world that man got up with the 448 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: same amount of brains hells that he did before. I mean, 449 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: that just hit was just terrible. I mean it was 450 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: an awful hit. I mean that was just awful. And 451 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: thank the Lord it wasn't on turf. And then the 452 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: scene the way Andy walked off, Um, you know I've 453 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: covered and not suspended because Andy Dalton is not Tom Brady. 454 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: That's why you know this, The preferential treatment that they 455 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: give these quarterbacks. I mean, we know it, okay, I 456 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: mean come on, now, when you played, you couldn't you 457 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, you knew who you couldn't breathe on, and 458 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: who you couldn't touch and who they didn't care. Yeah, man, 459 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: they find me, They find me twenty five grand just 460 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: for hitting grown man. It's ridiculous. But in this situation 461 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: he should get He gotta be suspended. I mean you 462 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: saw he led with that The guy was sliding and 463 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: he led with his helmet down there. I mean it, 464 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, man. That was That was one of the 465 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: dirtiest ones out in the saying. I agree with you. 466 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: If Roger Goodell talks about players safety Troy Evince and 467 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: talks about it, well, then do something about it. Here 468 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: not just sit up here and send find him. But 469 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: but they but we know there's a cast system, man, 470 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: it's just the cast system in the National Football League. 471 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: And Andy Dalton is not in that cast system of 472 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: which they're gonna sit there here to say we want 473 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: to protect this guy. If you did this to Patrick Mahomes, 474 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: you'd have a whole lot of problems on your hands. 475 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because he did to Andy Dalton on on 476 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: a you know, a two and five football team. They 477 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: don't care. Man, you said it, you know, you set 478 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: it up for me, like like a spot in the volleyball. Man. Listen, 479 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: the NFL don't care about Andy Dalton. And because the 480 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't care about Andy Doalton. If somebody would have 481 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: ran over there and tried to and they would have 482 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: tried to help, and it would Listen, man, I'm telling you, listen, listen, 483 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: I can't listen. I'm willing I'm willing to bet if 484 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: it would have caused a big, big scene and like 485 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: the teams would have started fighting and benches would have 486 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: started clearing and stuff, I think Boxton would have got suspended. 487 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: But the fact that everybody just looked around like all right, well, 488 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: who covers the Nucci. I think that was like hight well, 489 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: I guess it's not that big of a deal. Man. 490 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta have some theater to it. Man. 491 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: You see dudes flopping all over the place and they 492 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: getting calls. You gotta do that too, Man, You step 493 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: up for you guys, show show the NFL that that 494 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: ain't right and you really and you really care about 495 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: that man, and you know, and maybe it have been different, 496 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: but you know, shout out, what did your boy do? 497 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: When when Dalton got hit? Man, Well, I didn't see 498 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: what happened with your boy nineteen. Man, I'm not playing 499 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: with you, Bro, I'm not playing with you. Man, I'm 500 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: not playing with everybody. Hell, he got he was, he was, 501 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: he was shocked, he was shot. You know he was 502 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: when something when when you as a boxing match, you're 503 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: watching a boxing match, you see somebody get knocked out 504 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: and everybody just like for real because he gonna get 505 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: out of you give him a pass on that one. 506 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: The nineteen Yeah, No, I got on him yesterday. He's 507 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: trumping he and it and its worst because the camera 508 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: called him first. My man stopped a round and just 509 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: looked at Bro. You ain't gonna help him up, you know, 510 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: give him somebody a shoulder, nothing, I mean, I you know, 511 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: but it ain't that, you know, and like us said, man, 512 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: when when your head's already hanging, you already getting beat 513 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: like that and the season's going away, it is like 514 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: that type of sometimes sometimes I gets slips your mind. 515 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: So you know, it was it was. It was a 516 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: lack of judgment there and it could have been done differently. 517 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: But hopefully Andy Donan is all right soon and he 518 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: can he can be started for this team and get 519 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: all his bonuses now. Previously or mix shots, Mickey Spacknola, 520 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: he said, Troy Aikman backed him up and that hey, 521 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: these are young offensive Lindman. A lot of guys knew 522 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: and to playing in the league, and that they didn't 523 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: really respond right because they're young. That's that's what Mickey's saying. 524 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: He's like, Troy Aikman's got my back here, and then 525 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones kind of had their back as well, saying that, 526 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: you know what, a bunch of young guys here, and 527 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: so that's that's the that is what certain people are saying. Okay, yeah, 528 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: I agree, you know, I agree with Spacknola on that one. 529 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I said it yesterday. Even of course these guys, look, man, 530 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: these guys are young. They didn't have you know, they 531 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: don't got those guys out there to basically, you know, 532 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: show him how to go about it. You know, they 533 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: get an excuse. Now nineteen he doesn't really get it. 534 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: This year he doesn't get an excuse. But those yeah, 535 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: those are the linemen. I mean that they're young. They're 536 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: puppies out there, man. You know, I'm not sure if 537 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: they knew what to do in that type of situation. Yeah, 538 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: Like I said, like I said yesterday, they was getting 539 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: they was getting brain speed off of them already, man. 540 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: So they had a lot of other stuff on their mind. 541 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: And they're young. It was a lot of stuff going 542 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: through the head. The people. The veterans are the guys 543 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: who you know who really looked bad. So what was 544 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: going through Connor? Connor Williams had thirty years start for 545 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He was out there on the field. He 546 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: ain't know what he do. He had so much to 547 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: handle with with Jonathan Island and all them boys. He 548 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: was just trying to survive to the whistle blows. And 549 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: there's zero, there's zeros on the clock. I mean he 550 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: wasn't he He was trying to survive for himself. You 551 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He had had a long day, gentleman, 552 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: Like I can't believe YouTube guys are saying this is 553 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: this is standards, this is you say that like Connor Williams, 554 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: is Leo Collins, Tyren Smith. I ain't say nothing yet, 555 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: but he he hasn't been like one of them, one 556 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: of them guys like h okay, so Church said they 557 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: had babies out here, Connor Williams and three years in 558 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: the league and make you a baby anymore. This is 559 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: a guy who is a federating football player. That's my point. 560 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: It's okay, fine to be idist the center. Okay, he's 561 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: he's new McGovern playing in the second third NFL game. Fun, 562 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: but not your left guard, Connor Williams. This guy has 563 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: been here playing next to Tyrant Smith, playing next to 564 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: to Travis Frederick, playing with Zack Martin, playing with He's 565 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: been a part of this and so he didn't do anything. 566 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying is they're fine. If you want 567 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: to talk about some of the other guys. Terrence Steele 568 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: but you know, and then nobody way cam Irby cam 569 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: Irving is a guy who's note, this isn't some guy 570 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: whose first rodeo out here. So I just give you 571 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: two guys who who have been veterans. Let's not why 572 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: are we giving them passes? I guess that's my question. 573 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: Why are you giving dudes who are veterans passes? Man 574 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: little kind of well, he just didn't have his boys 575 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: with him. He didn't, you know, he didn't he didn't 576 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: had those boys that you know. It was just it 577 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: was a crazy situation. I'll just put it like that. 578 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: It was a crazy situation. What the standards dropping, the 579 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: standards just dropping around the Dallas Cowboys just drop was 580 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: trying to get out. Hey, give me a break real quick. Okay, 581 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: let's let's take a break right here on the players 582 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: launch by to you by Hotels dot Com. 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To 619 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: the Players Loud, you got the ultimate fan experience for 620 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: the ultimate Cowboys fan joined Dallas Cowboys United presented by 621 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: Globe Life. Starting at just twenty dollars. Visit Dallas Cowboys 622 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: dot com Slash United. You are checking out the Players 623 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: Loach bought you by Hotels dot com. Now we Scouts. 624 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: A longtime Cowboys reporter joined by former Dallas Cowboys players 625 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: Barry Church and Danny mccraie. All right, this is what 626 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones had to say about his head coach, Mike McCarthy. Quote. 627 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: One of the reasons Mike McCarthy is the coach is 628 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: because he's been through it. He's had tough times, and 629 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: he's had disappointing times. Certainly, we couldn't have wanted to 630 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: be at this stage with our team this year. But 631 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: if I'm going to hire a coach that will be 632 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: at this stage and work through this for the betterment 633 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: for the rest of the year and for what's in 634 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: the future, I got my man. So Jerry Jones sticking 635 00:32:53,400 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: with Mike McCartney. How about them apples sound like church? 636 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, what what what is he supposed to say? 637 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Jerry's gonna stick with him, and uh, 638 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: you know if he does, like I said, I don't 639 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: see these position coaches. So maybe these one of these 640 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators making it through to the end or or 641 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: possibly to the next season. But okay, Mike mcconny is 642 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: gonna be here. But there's going to have to be 643 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: some changes, and not just on the D line. There's 644 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna have to be some coaches changes. Made. Yeah. Man, 645 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: he's found this guy. I mean, he's with me on 646 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: this one. He's drinking the kool aid too. Man. Look, 647 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: we didn't expect this to happen. Man, we didn't expect it. 648 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: You know, our whole all pro offensive line to go down. 649 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: You know, we didn't expect to lose our franchise quarterback. 650 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: We didn't expect you know, our ninety million dollars running 651 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: back to kind of kind of take a step backwards. 652 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: But you know, these things happen. And when I think 653 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: we got the right dude in place to whether this storm, 654 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look right now, we're not getting a lot 655 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: of response from our from our players, all right. It's 656 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: not really click right now. But thankfully to NFC, East 657 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: is trash. So hopefully we can get things Roland and 658 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: we'll get in the right direction. Man, I'm still with 659 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: this squad, and I'm still with McCarthy. It's just rough 660 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: right now. It's it is rough. It's hard to root 661 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: for these guys. But we still got a chance, man, 662 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: And I can't bail. I can't bail on them right now. 663 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: I can't do it. So Church to listen to you. 664 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: You bought in up, Mike, McCarthy. So I go back 665 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 1: to something I said yesterday at the end of the year, 666 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: if you're going to choose the coach, then you're going 667 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: to have to get rid of some players because clearly 668 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: they've not bought in. You already saw what the anonymous 669 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: sources said to Jane Slater, and they already proved them 670 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: right one at one week, you know, a week later. 671 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to throw dudes overboard if you're 672 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: going to keep these coaches. And yes, I expect that 673 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: one of the defensive backs coaches, if not both defensive 674 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: back coaches, that probably go ahead. They have to take 675 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: the bullet here that that's probably what they'll do. But 676 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: to me, Church, you can't bring it both back. You 677 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: can't bring back these same players and this head coach 678 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: because they didn't buying in what the head coach defensive 679 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: coordinated one. So you're gonna have to get rid of 680 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: some guys. You may even have to eat some contracts. 681 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's that's that's basically what I think 682 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: he's saying right now in those comments that they got 683 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: the guy they want and yeah, we're gonna side with 684 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: the coach, and you know, a lot of these guys 685 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 1: coming in to these big contracts next year, we might 686 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: have to dump a little bit of them. And you know, 687 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have to be the sacrificial lamb. I mean, 688 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: we can't go out here and be two and five 689 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: and and if we don't go to the playoffs, if 690 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: we don't win the NFC East, somebody, somebody's got to 691 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: bite the bullet for it. And um, you know, after 692 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: what these comments, I don't think it'll be Mike McCarthy. 693 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be somebody lower on the totem pole, 694 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: like you said, maybe a position coach or something like that. 695 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: But it sounds like from all these reports that he 696 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: sign went the coach on this one. I mean, who 697 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: who's contracted or they're gonna eat? Tank Ain't going nowhere, 698 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: Jayalen ain't going nowhere. Uh you know other than that, 699 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: you know who all this Smith, Crawford, Uh, Woods? I mean, 700 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: who's going somewhere? You drafted digs, you just pay Anthony Brown, 701 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: which you know that's not really a contract that you 702 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: just dying to get rid of. So who's going somewhere 703 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: that that is that is a significant player. But Woods 704 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: is up he's a free agent, significant contract. You can 705 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: oh wait wait, no significant contract. He's he's a friend 706 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: like you back. You're not getting no, no, you're not 707 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: giving away his contract. I'm saying, like, who's contract. Ain't 708 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: look at him, man, I mean, this is this, this, 709 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: this will be on this will be obviously, this will 710 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: be on the head coach he I guess he'll be 711 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: able to sit up here and Tael Jerry who needs 712 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: who needs to die? I don't know, but yes, woods 713 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: Is contract is up, Crawford's contractors up. I don't know. 714 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the thing. I don't know that 715 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: he's he's Mike Nolan. His praise Jalen Smith repeatedly, and 716 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: he says he doesn't understand the outside criticism about Jalen. 717 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: So apparently Jalen is good with with with the DC 718 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy. So I don't know if he'll go 719 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: but um, you know, ever Sa Griffin will be going here. 720 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure. But along the way you got 721 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: gout and it wasn't just the anonymous sources. Defensively, there 722 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: are also people who aren't happy on the offensive side 723 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 1: of the ball. So that's my thing. Is is they're 724 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: going to have to change out some players, you know, 725 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: and if it if it involves eating contracts, that's the 726 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: other question. Is Jerry willing to do that? Because you 727 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: need to make sure if you're gonna roll with Mike McCarthy, 728 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: then you need to get Mike McCarthy what he needs. 729 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing I talked about the 730 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: Texas Rangers baseball team as they struggled last year, finished 731 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: the second worst record baseball. Like, you got dudes who 732 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: haven't bought into the manager. The best thing the general 733 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: manager can do is get rid of the players who 734 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: don't want to buy into what the manager wants. That's 735 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: one reason why Ron Washington was able to win in 736 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: and take this team to two World Series. It's because 737 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: they got rid of the dudes who didn't want to 738 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: be dad with the way Wash was running the thing. 739 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: And that, to me is what I believe they have 740 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: to do here is if you're gonna go with Mike McCarthy, 741 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: then you gotta get rid of some of the players 742 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: who don't want to roll. I think you gotta do that. 743 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: I think you gotta give him a chance to go 744 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: down with I mean, like you said, I think you 745 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: gotta get his own players in here. I think he 746 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: got to snatch the play calling sheet. And and like 747 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: we said before, if he's gonna go down, if everything's 748 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: gonna just just fail, and you know what's gonna hit 749 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: the fan, at least he knows he went down on 750 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: his terms and on his ability and not somebody else. 751 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: And so for me, yeah, I mean, you gotta give 752 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: him the reins or at least he gotta want to 753 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,959 Speaker 1: take him. I'm not surprised he didn't take it yet. Now, 754 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: now on the offensive side of the ball, and when 755 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: you talk about contracts and you talk about listen, I 756 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: want to know because I talked about the yesterday, and 757 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: I want to know what McCarthy wants to do, Like 758 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: what the identity of the of the offense that he wants. 759 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: We have a running back who if you focus the 760 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: offense on the running game and then have everything else 761 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: based off of that, then I think you could be successful. 762 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: But if you're going to come out here and line 763 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: up in three receivers the entire game and throw the 764 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: ball four to fifty times, and that's what you want 765 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: to do, then what are you doing with a ninety 766 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: million dollar running back and then and and that's why 767 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: I said, it worries me that you have that, And 768 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: then now he's splitting carriage with Tony Pollard, Tony Pollard 769 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,959 Speaker 1: carriage at the beginning of the season. That's why I said, 770 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm worried about Zeke that Like, what is McCarthy gonna do. 771 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: He's not calling plays now, so you know, you said 772 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: he want to get his players and whatever to fit 773 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: his type of style. Does Zeke fitting that style? What 774 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: are you gonna do with uh? With t Smith? You know, 775 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do on the on line? If 776 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: he goes air raid? Let's just say, like how you said. 777 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: If he's starting to go air raid and he wants to, 778 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, feature the passing part of this offense, do 779 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: you try to get something you know for Zeke? Is 780 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: that something you would you would try to go you 781 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: gotta look for into Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, 782 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean no offense to Zeke. I love Zeke. I 783 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: think that we should base our our our offense around him. 784 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: But if you got a ninety million dollars running back 785 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: sitting back there, getting twelve carries a game, and you 786 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: talk about you're gonna put him in the passing game 787 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: just running flat routes and screens. He you're not getting 788 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 1: your money's worth out of that, and you're not You're 789 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: doing him a disservice by missing his career because that's 790 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: not the type of player that he is. I agree 791 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: with you, but I'll also say this, Danny, I don't 792 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: know if you can trade that contract because it's it's 793 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: such a large contract, and so many teams in the 794 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: NFL don't want to play that style of football and 795 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: invest that much into the running back position. The Cowboys 796 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: went in deep where a lot of folks just just 797 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: don't want to do it. And that's that's kind of 798 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: my thing on that we talked about, you know, moving 799 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: on from z is you're not trading that thing. I mean, 800 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: I just don't see many people wanting to do it. 801 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: And and the teams that have invested this kind of 802 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 1: money in a running back. You look at the Jets 803 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: that didn't work out fifteen MILLI that they were given 804 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: Levon Bell that didn't work Ums, the Carolina Panthers just 805 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: topped the deal that was given out by UM. The 806 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys with Carolina did it with us run CMC and 807 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: you see he's hurt. Uh Tennessee. You know they already 808 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: got their guy, Derrek Kenny. They just signed him to 809 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: a deal, so you know they were They're not going 810 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: to be in the market to try and pay him. 811 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: And even the well the Texans are they got salary 812 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: cap problems that can they can they do anything? They 813 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: don't have a receiver. I mean they got David Justin 814 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: as they running back. Is there anything they could do 815 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: to get to get another UH star caliber player on 816 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: their team if you're just looking for looking for places 817 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: farm the land? Okay, So here's the problem with the Texans. 818 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: Number one, they got cap issues. And number two, if 819 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: they make a trade with you, they don't have anybody. 820 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: They don't have a first round picked up the second 821 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: round pick this year. So what you wanna take? You know, 822 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: what are you taking? You're just trying to offload a 823 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: contract at this point, like like how they do a 824 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 1: basketball you just you just try to get this countrack 825 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: off your books. You just trying to find a way 826 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: to free up some bread. That's what they do a 827 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: basketball side side and cut. Well, Houston is not going 828 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: to be in the business of trying to to add 829 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: salary like that, they they have cap issues, as many 830 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: teams are going to have cap issues because in twenty 831 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: twenty one that's going down. So you're not seeing people 832 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: trying to run out here and add you know, running 833 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: back making fifteen million dollars. It's just it's just not there. Um. 834 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: I think what you have to do is really have 835 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: the philosophy philosophical conversation with Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore 836 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: about what it is you want to do now. Something 837 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: else I'll throw out here, And I don't know if 838 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: people are talking about it enough. Kellen Moore is most 839 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: likely going to get an opportunity to coach in college 840 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: football somewhere because the kind of numbers he's been able 841 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: to put up in the offensive mind and the way 842 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: college people are hiring folks today. I just would not 843 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 1: be surprised if somebody came along and said to Kellen Moore, 844 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: we want you to be our head coach somewhere in 845 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: college football. I just would not be surprised because he's 846 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: a young guy. They're trying to get these young guys 847 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: in here, and and Kelly may say, you know, look, 848 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and run my own thing 849 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: and until Kellen Moore could be gone next year because 850 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: he's gotten a promotion that he's ended up becoming a 851 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: head football coach at the collegiate level. I don't know, man, 852 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,479 Speaker 1: I don't know if he could be a head coach. 853 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean we were, we were teammates back in fifteen. 854 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: I think mccraie was with us. Why don't you when 855 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: when Moore was our player and he just I mean 856 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: he's a good dude, great dude, like, you know, nice, 857 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: all things like that. But I just see him Moore 858 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: as a coordinator, I don't see him having that you know, 859 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: let's motivate these guys or get everybody going in the 860 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: right direction. But you know, I could see him definitely 861 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: getting you know, being a coordinator somewhere else. But as 862 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: far as head coach, I just unless think things have 863 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 1: changed since then. I don't see him being that type 864 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,479 Speaker 1: of guy that can get the g get the guys rolling. 865 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know he gonna ride that back Prescott 866 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: wave huh right that way? Even enough out of here, 867 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: because we see how important Dak Prescott is. I mean, goodness, 868 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: give him give him the ball of Russell receivers out there, 869 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: and obviously he can get it done because what we're 870 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: seeing now is not happening. Let's see what the offense 871 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: looks like when he has to be creative with what 872 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: he has. Now, maybe the college coaches of the eighties 873 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: are looking at that and saying, let's see what Let's 874 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: see what he does and see if we aren't able 875 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 1: to get all the top nas recruits because we were 876 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: battling with Alabama and LSU and Clemson, let's see what 877 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: he could do with with with some guys who aren't 878 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: five stars. Okay, all right, I'm just telling you, man, 879 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: when you start talking about college jobs and this is 880 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 1: a guy with the proper agent who will find himself 881 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: in the mix, he will and that I mean, that's 882 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: that's just how this thing works. I'm just telling him. 883 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,439 Speaker 1: That's just me now. I'm not sitting there here saying, 884 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: hey man, he's about to get some you know, Florida 885 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: State like job, not saying that, but a college job 886 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: out there then in the ability to run your own thing, yeah, 887 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: that could be appealing to him. That could be appeal 888 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: because I think Kellen Moore from an offensive standpoint, with 889 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: what he's doing the work in college for sure he 890 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: could definitely work on without a doubt. Yeah, go to 891 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. I mean they don't play defense over there. 892 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know if they do it over 893 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: there either, So I mean I don't know. Okay, he 894 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: got kool a House sauce into that. What's wrong with you? 895 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: Where leave us? No problem with us? Problems we're talking 896 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: about the MAC. Don't want no problems with you. This 897 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: is this is a perfect place to go ahead and 898 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: end the show. It's a perfect let's do that. Let's 899 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: do that edition. 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