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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am very tired, and Matt is, uh,

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Speaker 2: well you look chipper.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty weary myself and I just did an hour show,

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Speaker 3: slug down a whole lot of coffee, got a couple

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Speaker 3: more shows after this two hours and you gotta write

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Speaker 3: an article night. But in such his life, I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's a short week. Yeah, you gotta put four five

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Speaker 3: days of work into four on these Monday night ers.

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Speaker 3: And obviously we're all up late as well.

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Speaker 4: It's like us jumping into our jeans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but hey see ours win. They're one on one.

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Speaker 3: Times are good.

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Speaker 4: Times are good. How about the entire AFC, Matt, That's

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Speaker 4: where I wanted to go. See. There are two teams

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Speaker 4: in the AFC after two weeks of football who were.

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Speaker 3: Unbeaten Miami in Baltimore two two. I mean it's not

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs and Bills and Bengals like everyone expected to

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Speaker 3: all respect. The Ravens and Dolphins are having tremendous years.

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Speaker 3: But Steelers are one game behind them, and they won

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Speaker 3: the good one of the two that matter in terms

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Speaker 3: of getting in the playoffs. They have a divisional win

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Speaker 3: and their loss came against an NFC team. So if

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Speaker 3: we sat there the day the schedule came out, and

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Speaker 3: of course we did a show that day and said

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Speaker 3: you could split the first two, which ones would you

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Speaker 3: pick this.

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Speaker 4: It would go that way. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean, those are the results. So we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: the process and how you got there and not all.

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Speaker 3: That's beautiful, no doubt, but you're one in one and

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Speaker 3: you won the good one.

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Speaker 2: So let's go there now, Matt, because I'm looking here

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Speaker 2: at the stats. Steelers offense four for fourteen on third downs,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty five yards of offense, two hundred

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Speaker 2: of which came on about seven plays.

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Speaker 3: They were complaining last year there's no explosives.

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Speaker 4: No explosives. Now they don't have the they're not getting

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Speaker 4: the regular yardish, you know, they turned out four and

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Speaker 4: five yard gains, but they're getting the explosives.

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Speaker 3: But they're getting the explosives, which is better. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I guess I would rather have the sustained ten play

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Speaker 3: drives five yards in a cloud of dust and converting

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Speaker 3: on third downs. Yes, that's more bankable. But we killed

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Speaker 3: this team for no explosives last year, and the explosives

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Speaker 3: have showed up. So if you get to the point

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Speaker 3: where you have a blend of the two, you'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: But right now the offense is clearly struggling.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Browns ran eighty one offensive plays.

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Speaker 4: That's not going to cut it to fifty three for

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Speaker 4: the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: You can't continue to do that to your defense and

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Speaker 2: expect them, you know, it's sooner or lated. I don't

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Speaker 2: care what defense it is if you leave them on

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Speaker 2: the field that long. Because Cleveland was five or sixteen

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Speaker 2: on third downs and oero for two on fourth downs.

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Speaker 2: It's not like they were sustainable, you know, sustaining a

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Speaker 3: They weren't a model of efficiency on offense either. They

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Speaker 3: ran the ball well. Yes, the Steelers benefited from the

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Speaker 3: Chub injury, no question. He's an elite player that played

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Speaker 3: quite well before he was out.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say Chubb ran the ball well and Ford

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Speaker 2: broke off a long run. Yeah, But outside of that,

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Speaker 2: you did an okay job against the run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think Ford ended up with like one

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Speaker 4: Total, It was one hundred and six.

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Speaker 3: Not a bad player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had one hundred and six yards rushing on

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Speaker 2: sixteen carries if you take the sixty nine yarder out

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Speaker 2: of the equation, which obviously he can't. No, I mean

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Speaker 2: basically average two and a half yards of carry.

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Speaker 3: No, it's definitely got better. So they've allowed three really

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Speaker 3: long runs this year.

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Speaker 4: That's a problem.

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Speaker 3: That's a problem. Yeah, and they didn't do that last

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Speaker 3: last year. And their tackling I think was better last

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Speaker 3: year than it's been this year. I also think that

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Speaker 3: in progress on defense too, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: new bodies. Well, it get better. I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The craziest stat about this game, so the Browns averaged

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Speaker 3: Okay, which you'd take. Yeah, every time they snapped the ball, sure,

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Speaker 3: including those explosives.

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Speaker 4: They averaged four point six yards per pass attempt.

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Speaker 3: That's really bad.

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Speaker 4: I mean the Steelers were at six point three, which

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Speaker 3: It's not great, but it dwarfs you.

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Speaker 2: Know, the four point I mean, you were a yard

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Speaker 2: and a half better per pass play, per pass play,

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Speaker 2: I mean, but yeah, the offense on.

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Speaker 3: Watson and Amari Cooper and the Joku and it's not

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Speaker 3: like they're short on dudes. You know, they got brand

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Speaker 3: name guys.

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Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson's a problem.

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Speaker 3: He's a problem. I'm sure we have plenty of time

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Speaker 3: talking about that. But I would be much unhappier with

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Speaker 3: my sport that way. I'd be much less thrilled with

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Speaker 3: my quarterback situation if I was wearing brown and orange

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Speaker 3: right now as opposed to black and gold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing, Matt. So I'm looking at these

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Speaker 2: stats for the Steelers. The Steelers have now played San

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Speaker 2: Francisco and they played Cleveland, and people are complaining about

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Speaker 2: the offensive production, which I get.

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Speaker 4: It hasn't been good, No.

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Speaker 3: It's been bad.

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Speaker 4: But conversely, people are taught.

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Speaker 2: People want to say, how well the Steelers, Well, they

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Speaker 2: really got after Deshaun Watson six sacks and they forced

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Speaker 2: four turnovers. Could it be that maybe Cleveland's defense is

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Speaker 2: pretty good and we know San Francisco's defense is good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Cleveland's defense just might be pretty good too.

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be. I mean, in a way,

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Speaker 3: it reminds me a little of last year first half

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Speaker 3: verse second half, you know, like they played the hardest,

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Speaker 3: slight of defenses in the league. I mean, let's looking back.

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Speaker 3: That's in hindsight. We don't know these things going forward.

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Speaker 3: We don't know where the Browns will end up or

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Speaker 3: the Niners. I do believe in my heart of hearts, though,

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Speaker 3: that these two defenses they faced will be at a

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Speaker 3: minimum top ten.

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Speaker 4: They'll be tough ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they'll both be. Right now, I

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Speaker 3: think the Niners are the third best and the Browns

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Speaker 3: are fifth or six. I mean, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If the Niners or third, because I watched with with

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Speaker 2: they're gonna They're gonna be out there.

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Speaker 4: They'll probably be the sixth or seventh defense.

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Speaker 3: And they'll unfortunately, probably have some injuries and wear and

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Speaker 3: tear just because they're out there all the time. But no,

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Speaker 3: I think these are two of the better, two of

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Speaker 3: the best defenses in the league, probably.

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Speaker 4: Two of the best.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers might have just faced, and they'll face the

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Speaker 2: Browns again, but they might have just faced the two

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Speaker 2: best defenses will face all season.

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Speaker 3: I think that's true. I mean, as I'm scanning what's

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Speaker 3: on the schedule in my might miss a team here

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Speaker 3: and there. But it's better than Jacksonville. It's better than

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Speaker 3: they are going to have.

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Speaker 2: And I just I wasn't sure what Cleveland's I thought

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Speaker 3: It was hard to judge.

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Speaker 4: It was hard what did judge after that game, though,

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Speaker 4: because Cincinnati did nothing.

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Speaker 3: But they embarrassed him. Yeah, I mean not only did

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Speaker 3: the Bengals do nothing, but the Bengals in Week one

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Speaker 3: offensively were clearly worse than the Steelers in Week one. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and then the Bengals didn't look great against them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're struggling too, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I think, you know, you take all

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Speaker 4: this with a grain of salt. We'll see. I think

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Speaker 4: we'll get a better if.

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Speaker 3: We have to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it hasn't been good, No.

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Speaker 4: It hasn't been good. But I think we'll get a

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Speaker 4: better feel for what the Steelers offense is this week

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Speaker 4: against the Raiders, who are quite frankly in middle of

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Speaker 4: the road defense at.

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Speaker 3: Best being kind Yeah, at best. I mean again, you

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Speaker 3: can't put the cart before the horse. But the facts are,

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Speaker 3: you won and one you got the better of the

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Speaker 3: two wins, and these next two games against the Raiders

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Speaker 3: and Texans you should win. You should be favored. That

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean you can just roll the ball out there

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Speaker 3: and Nause He's gonna run for two hundred yards and

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Speaker 3: Warren's gonna run for one hundred and Kenny's never going

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Speaker 3: to miss it the Roawa. The execution has to be better.

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Speaker 3: It has to be better. I mean, these are NFL

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Speaker 3: opponents coming up, but these next two should help you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm looking forward to seeing here the

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Speaker 2: next couple of weeks because if they do that, like

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Speaker 2: the fact that you found a way to win that

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Speaker 2: game against what I think you know coming into the season,

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Speaker 2: we other the Browns are a playoff contender.

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Speaker 4: Yeah they are if the quarterback plays well.

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Speaker 3: If the quarterback plays well, which.

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Speaker 2: He is not doing, they are. If they have Nick Chubb,

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Speaker 2: which they aren't going to have the rest of the year.

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Speaker 3: They look like they could. Man, this is wrong. I

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Speaker 3: was about to say, look, after week one, it looked

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Speaker 3: like the Rape or the Browns might be the class

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Speaker 3: of the division. Maybe they're a twelve win team. You know,

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Speaker 3: they smoke the Bengals. I don't see that from this

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Speaker 3: team now. And I think that the defense is the

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Speaker 3: strength of the team. I don't know what the running

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Speaker 3: game is anymore. And I know the quarterback isn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the quarterback, I mean, you're paying that guy that

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Speaker 4: It was not good.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, I you know, they so late in the

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Speaker 2: game they'd had they just had success on like back

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Speaker 2: to back third downs, throwing the ball down yeah, down

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Speaker 2: the left sideline against Levi Wallace.

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Speaker 3: Cooper mostly with Cooper, yeah, who played really well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh.

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Speaker 2: They come out for a third down late in the game,

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Speaker 2: and actually I think it might have been the final

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Speaker 4: Was they go trips to the right away from Levi Wallace.

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Speaker 2: You need a first down here, and you you don't

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Speaker 2: go back to what had been working for you.

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Speaker 3: That matchup was your advantage super verse Wallace. With all

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Speaker 3: respect to Wallace, favorites Cooper. Yeah, obviously.

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Speaker 4: I mean he made some plays. I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Even early in the game, I'm watching, Chump had sixty

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Speaker 4: He's everything.

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Speaker 3: That's who you are, and that's fine. But you had

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Speaker 4: Why are you trying to have Watson running options and stuff? Like?

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Speaker 3: Like I firmly believe Chubb's a better ball carrier than

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his career to date. So if you could tell

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Speaker 4: They're gonna do that all day long, right right, and

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Speaker 2: And I didn't think the Browns played to their strengths

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Speaker 2: you're throwing to Harrison Bryant, right, and you know it

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Speaker 3: I saw the some of the next gen stats on

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Speaker 3: they quick little right up on every game, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I looked at this one. Of course, their next gen

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Speaker 3: stats were basically when pressured. Deshaun Watson is by far

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like so he was going back all

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Speaker 4: The only guys coming into that.

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Speaker 3: Not starter, not starter? Yeah, certainly not sixty two million

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Speaker 4: So you had to pressure him. And I thought the

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Speaker 3: perfect of course not. But if he's that bad under pressure,

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Speaker 3: and it doesn't. I mean, so, folks, I know that

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Speaker 3: mind right now, and I get that. But the Bengals

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Speaker 3: is just as bad. The Browns is just as bad

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Speaker 3: in some of these ways too. That might be harder

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow's calf going to get better, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And Baltimore's defense might be the worst unit of an

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Speaker 2: although they played well again, they played well against Cincinnati. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know that. I'm not sold on that group.

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Speaker 3: No, And you were texting me during that Bengals Ravens game,

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Speaker 3: He looks like he can't protect himself and he knows.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, Like he's obviously compromised right now.

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Speaker 4: Now we don't even know if he's going to start

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, they're.

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Speaker 4: Zero and two. They would have been better off not

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Speaker 4: then he comes back in this Joe, Yeah, now you've

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Speaker 4: aggravated the lay. I mean, this is you know, you're

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Speaker 3: You're and two? Right, can you get the three and

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Speaker 3: three in this division? Now? Maybe yeah, we'll see, but

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Speaker 3: they better start soon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's it's just interesting the whole way around.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of teams work and stuff.

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Speaker 2: There's no such thing as style points in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You're not trying to impress the voters like you are

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Speaker 3: Like how many points is Kansas City put up this year.

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Speaker 4: Not many, there was, so I I saw this.

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Speaker 2: every team in the NFL on Sunday or every game

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Speaker 2: going over forty points.

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Speaker 4: That was the parlay.

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Speaker 3: Okay, everyone, every one of them on sixteen games or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I think you're twelve.

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Speaker 2: So the twelve games on Sunday, eleven of them went

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Speaker 2: one that screwed up as parlay. It was like four

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Speaker 3: I mean it was the highest one, but it didn't

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Speaker 4: Not even I mean, you're remotely closed.

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Speaker 3: Going to be a highest scoring game. Yeah, so scoring

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Steelers game went over. Now that the thirty

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Speaker 4: thirty seven, yeah, thirty seven points in the the other

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Speaker 4: Monday night game didn't go over.

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Speaker 2: But still so most of your games went over this weekend.

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Speaker 2: But it's defensive touchdowns. You know the Browns first touchdowns

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Speaker 2: they're they're they're place kicker who missed a forty three

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Speaker 2: so there's some there's some things there that kind of

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Speaker 2: set up well for them. They didn't have many sustained drives.

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Speaker 2: I mean they hit a seven a sixty nine yard

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there wasn't a lot of staying ahead of the chains,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of my guarantees going into that game was

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Speaker 3: I bet that was true.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't even close. Was even close. The Browns were

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Speaker 4: that's ninety nine for.

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Speaker 3: Thirty and the Browns had two failed four.

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Speaker 2: Two failed fourth downs. So those are like turnovers. To say,

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Speaker 3: Times seven because they missed a field.

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Speaker 4: Goal and they missed a field goal seven.

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Speaker 3: I was just talking about this. That the way I

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Speaker 3: in great field position in the middle of the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's worse than going forward when.

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Speaker 4: That turnover happened. I was on Picktts interception on the

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers get the sack to push the ball back.

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Speaker 4: They were at the nineteen, I believe, Okay, going in

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Speaker 4: Ogan Joby to push them push them back. Yeah he did,

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Speaker 4: and they end up missing the field goal. The Steelers

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the difference if Watson threw a pick to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I you know. It was a tip AFC North

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Speaker 3: It was a weird game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care how how you got there. You

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Speaker 3: I mean, the craziest thing to me, which isn't necessarily flattering.

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Speaker 3: They scored twenty six points and never snapped the ball

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about these chunk plays that everybody wanted

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Their average touchdown length last year was like six yards.

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Speaker 3: It's like the lowest it's been in twenty years. They

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Speaker 3: So they still scored twenty six points. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: it's a strange game.

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Speaker 2: And even even the defensive touchdowns was thirty yards and

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Speaker 3: I just they played hard and they had to go

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not easy to do. I mean,

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Speaker 2: The one that wasn't was the fifty five yard field

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Speaker 2: you know, on Chandon Sullivan for face masks. So, speaking

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Speaker 3: Personal files, reaching out and grabbing the whole world's watching.

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Speaker 4: And then and then he shoved an official after.

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Speaker 3: That, I missed that. I read about that.

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Speaker 4: So they're in he's in the Steelers bench and the

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Speaker 4: and he keeps trying to go back in, and he

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Speaker 4: grabbed the official and pushed him out.

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Speaker 3: Of the way.

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Speaker 4: That's supposed to be an ejection.

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Speaker 3: Well, I read today there's a blurb that the NFL

447
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Speaker 3: is looking into it.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they are.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't get ejected.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna get a lot of fines, a lot. He's

451
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Speaker 4: a quarterback. And Stefanski's making excuses for him after game. Well,

452
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Speaker 4: they grabbed his arm and he didn't feel like he

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Speaker 4: had anywhere. Yeah, they're trying to get him on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Trying to get him on the ground. Yeah, and he

455
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Speaker 3: grabbed him by the face mask. Yeah. Not. I mean

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Speaker 3: i'd be really well.

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Speaker 4: I just grabbed him by the face best threw them

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Speaker 4: to the like through them by their face mask.

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Speaker 3: He was noticeably from that's never been legal. I mean

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Speaker 3: they have they have some problems with Watson. Yeah, I mean,

461
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Speaker 3: maybe I'll eat my words because I do think he

462
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Speaker 3: could be great again, but he hasn't been yet.

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Speaker 4: I'm starting to think it's not there.

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Speaker 3: I might rather the Cardinals quarterback situation, I mean, is

465
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Speaker 3: opposed to sixty two million dollar cap in the next

466
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Speaker 3: three years and no picks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, the first round picked next year.

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Speaker 3: Because ficked next year. Right, I mean, the Texans has.

469
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Speaker 4: The gift that just keeps on giving.

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Speaker 3: Really hard thing to overcome. You know.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Kenny Pickett's not playing great right now. No, but

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Speaker 4: I'd rather stee those quarterback situation, right, situation, Yes, the situation, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I mean you can.

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Speaker 3: Get out of pick if Picket stinks, you can get

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Speaker 3: out of it, right Draft one next year, you could

476
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Speaker 3: go sign Kirk Cousins, you know.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever, you know, whatever you feel like, you know,

478
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Speaker 2: you'll have an idea at the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: Now, I expect to get better.

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Speaker 4: I do too.

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Speaker 3: His accuracy doesn't add up to me.

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Speaker 4: No, there's something.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Okay, the game's fast for you. These defense

484
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Speaker 3: are hitting you, they're throwing a lot at you, but

485
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Speaker 3: you get hit open receivers. I mean he's always done

486
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Speaker 3: that well and he hasn't through too.

487
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Speaker 4: Yes, and just has missed some open guys.

488
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's turned down open throws too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. That that has to change, and hopefully they're able to.

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Speaker 2: It's it's difficult to fix those things in a regular

491
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Speaker 2: week in the NFL, let alone on a short week

492
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Speaker 2: like they're on this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the short week on the road thing isn't great.

494
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Speaker 4: So again, I think maybe if the players.

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Speaker 3: Are playing against aren't as good as.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're playing a lesser team here this week, you

497
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Speaker 2: would think that maybe that gets a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit better, should be, I mean it needs to, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It definitely does. He is the Matt Williamson. I am

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Speaker 2: Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio. We're gonna take a break, we'll be back

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Speaker 2: with more.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 4: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio,

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Speaker 2: wrapping up a twenty six twenty two victory by the

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Speaker 2: Steelers on.

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Speaker 4: Last Monday night. I had no idea you know what

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Speaker 4: day it is? Right now?

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Speaker 3: I've asked three people what day it is today? So

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00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: far it feels like a Wednesday, but it isn't. And

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Speaker 3: I know we were setting.

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Speaker 4: Up tomorrow's Wednesday. It's not going to feel like a Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: We were on a Text threead today with Rob King

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Speaker 3: and some of the video folks from the Steelers, and

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Speaker 3: so could we get together tomorrow at X to talk

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Speaker 3: about the show? I'm like, what day is? I was

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Speaker 3: so frazzled, but asked that question. I had to like,

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Speaker 3: go look at my schedule. I'm like, I think I

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Speaker 3: have time. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to bed at like three point thirty

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Speaker 2: last night. When I got home and I think at eight.

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Speaker 2: I think it was eight o'clock am. I woke up

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, because when I normally get up, and

533
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Speaker 2: my body's like okay.

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Speaker 4: So I also got a text from my daughter's school,

535
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Speaker 4: like because I needed that. I needed my phone beeping. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I would have woken up otherwise,

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Speaker 4: but I did. And then I was awake and I'm like, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna stay.

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Speaker 3: Up a lot of coffee before our show.

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Speaker 4: Is It's rough.

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Speaker 3: It's just squeezing five days into four is always tough.

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Speaker 2: So Mike Tomlin had his press conference today. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: so because it's a Tuesday, and guys, he said the

544
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Speaker 2: Steelers offense and the team in general has kind of

545
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Speaker 2: lost its mojo. They need to rEFInd the mojo they

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Speaker 2: had in the preseason and last season, mostly talking about

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Speaker 2: the offense, although he also you know, referencing defense.

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Speaker 4: Defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean big runs.

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Speaker 2: But I'm curious, you know, it's again is that mojo?

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Speaker 2: Because he said, Look, one game is a you know,

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Speaker 2: is one game. Now two games are starting to become

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Speaker 2: a trend. At what point to you is a trend

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Speaker 2: in the NFL?

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Speaker 3: See I I use this somewhat as an excuse, but

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Speaker 3: as example too. I mean, if the Pirates give up

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Speaker 3: a bunch of runs two days in a row in

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Speaker 3: the midle of July, nobody cares. Yeah, you know, Or

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Speaker 3: the Penguins score fifteen goals over a two game Wow,

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Speaker 3: they're on Firegernut. Yeah yeah, So such a small sample

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Speaker 3: size and you isolate things. But to me, the offense

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Speaker 3: is a trend. I mean on defense, sort of the defense,

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Speaker 3: because that's a better side. Poor tackling run fits is

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Speaker 3: a bit of a trend that I'm worried about. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've never coached a team, but I would be very

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Speaker 3: conscientious this week. We need to do a better job

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Speaker 3: of our run fits getting people on the ground. I

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Speaker 3: know Josh Jacobs has done nothing, but he can hurt you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's a rushing champ. He's a scary dude. The offense,

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Speaker 3: to me is a trend because what can we count on?

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Speaker 3: I mean defense, I know some things I can count.

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Speaker 3: I can count on what I can count on high Smith.

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Speaker 3: I can count on Minka, who sounds like he has

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Speaker 3: some good injury news. And you know, we have some

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Speaker 3: bread and we have some butter, and we've put them

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Speaker 3: together and we've made a little sandwich. I can eat.

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Speaker 3: What where's my bread and where's my butter? And how

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Speaker 3: do I combine them on it?

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Speaker 2: Well, you feel differently about that right now. And we

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Speaker 2: talked about this going into this game last week. If

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Speaker 2: they had Deontay Johnson for that game against.

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Speaker 3: The Browns, maybe.

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Speaker 4: Because he's their man beater.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was a bigger loss than people will realize.

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Speaker 3: But I also thought one of the bright spots of

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Speaker 3: that game. Again, I've only watched it once because it's

587
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Speaker 3: a weird week. I thought Pickens was really good. I

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Speaker 3: thought he got open and could have had more balls

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Speaker 3: thrown his way. I know, the big one, but I

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Speaker 3: think he's stepping up sort of quietly. I mean he

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Speaker 3: had ten targets or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Four catches on ten targets.

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Speaker 3: I thought he should have had seven or eight catches

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Speaker 3: on ten targets to be very honest. So maybe Deontay

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Speaker 3: wasn't missed as much as I had worried going in Sea.

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Speaker 4: I think he was I think consistent. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean just.

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Speaker 2: It's third and five. You're going to Deontay because he's

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Speaker 2: going to be open.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Whether you complete it for the who knows. But you

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Speaker 3: know that that's an odd.

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Speaker 2: A couple of those quick, you know, quick hitting slants

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Speaker 2: that they ran, he's a open on those.

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Speaker 3: The thing that's making me crazy that's related to this.

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Speaker 3: Friar Mouth has two catches catches three games. I mean

607
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Speaker 3: that going back to the last game last year. That's

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Speaker 3: I know that's reaching, but two catches against linebackers and

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Speaker 3: safeties that are okay. You know, they weren't super small.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you.

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Speaker 2: I was watching that this week because we had friar

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Speaker 2: Mouth in our DFS line.

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Speaker 3: I thought he would have a big game.

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Speaker 4: And he was open.

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Speaker 3: He was open.

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Speaker 4: The ball just wasn't going his way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the only one that I saw designed

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Speaker 3: for well, the one that he screen. Yeah, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: executed well, but that was a phenomenal play call. It

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Speaker 3: was there, Yeah, I mean that was there for the taking.

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Speaker 3: Now do I expect Friarmuth to light up Hafonga and

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Speaker 3: Warner and Green Lawn.

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Speaker 4: No, No, that was Yeah, that was expecting.

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Speaker 3: But he needs to be a focal point at this offense,

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Speaker 3: whether that's scheme, Kenny or whatever. I saw him open

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Speaker 3: a lot yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if that changes this week. Knowing that

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Speaker 4: the Raiders inside linebacker is Robert Splaine.

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Speaker 3: Enough set you have a very nice working knowledge of

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Speaker 3: the opponent. Yeah, and he's not here anymore for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what he is, what his what his

632
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Speaker 2: limitations are, what his strengths are.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think Knox and Kincaid a decent games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the top of my head, you know, So, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe that's that changes this week for Pat

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Speaker 4: farm With I would hope.

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Speaker 3: So I thought to cut it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought I thought he would be targeted way

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Speaker 4: more this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we put him in the fat, We Putney where

641
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Speaker 3: my mouth was kind of thing. You know, I thought

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Speaker 3: he'd have you know, eight targets. Baby.

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Speaker 2: Again, if they're gonna blitz as many guys as they

644
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Speaker 2: were blitzing, boom, throw right over the top of the blitzers.

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Speaker 2: And unless you unless you, unless Kenny Pickett didn't trust what.

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Speaker 3: He was seeing, I think there's a lot of that

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Speaker 3: going on in.

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Speaker 2: You know, are they okay they've got six guys at

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage or seven guys at the line

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Speaker 2: of scrim are they all coming?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, where is this guy dropping out? And then

653
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Speaker 4: I throw the ball?

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Speaker 2: Maybe he got gun shy after that early interception, because

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Speaker 2: that's kind of what happened there.

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Speaker 3: Right, that was pretty rudimentary stuff. Yeah, you know he

657
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Speaker 3: didn't see Delpit. It was Delpit, right, really? Yeah, and

658
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Speaker 3: Delp it's a really good player. I wish Delpa was

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Speaker 3: a Steeler. But you just stared down the receiver safety,

660
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Speaker 3: read it right in front of it, and took it.

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Speaker 3: You know. I mean like, I'm sure that makes a

662
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Speaker 3: gun shy after your performance with the Niners, But that's

663
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Speaker 3: this league, dude. Yeah, and that's not okay.

664
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I thought there were some open receivers that

665
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: he missed and just didn't never throw the ball. He's

666
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: got to play better, there's no doubt about that.

667
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: That being said.

668
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: Definitely, his turn down open receiver. Yes, that doesn't make

669
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: me crazy for a guy that started what ten twelve

670
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: games in his life. Yeah, but his accuracy has always

671
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: been his calling card, and when he does let it go.

672
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: He's missing too many.

673
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: He's missing the leg other stuff should come.

674
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: I didn't see that part coming.

675
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's missing the layups here.

676
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got to hit those for this offense

677
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: to Again, it's hard to get a running game and

678
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: a sustain a running game when you can't get those

679
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: passes that you can't hit the third and fives that

680
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: gets your first down.

681
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: That they all.

682
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: Play hand in hand. Yeah, I mean, you don't want

683
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 3: to be in third and fives, you know, right, But

684
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: I thought his accuracy would always be something I can

685
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: count on, you know, And it hasn't been through two

686
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: weeks now. It was in the preseason.

687
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah it happened. Yeah, accuracy typically doesn't get worse. So defensively,

688
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: I mean I mentioned this to you before the show.

689
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: Somehow Pro Football Focus this is odd graded Miles Garrett

690
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: at ninety plus for that game yesterday.

691
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: Over nineties, like an elite grade.

692
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, like TJ.

693
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: Watt was like seventy one, right, Alex, heisp like he

694
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: was the highest graded player in that game.

695
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: Garrett was Garrett. Wow.

696
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 4: He had one tackle, one quarterback hit, and I'm sure

697
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: they rolled protection and he influenced the game.

698
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: In other waves, as all great players do. But who

699
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: impacted the game.

700
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: More both of the Steelers packy.

701
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: He's third at best in terms of edge impact.

702
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: And he might be fourth behind Ogan Jobi who affected

703
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: the game?

704
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, or even Aroncrow. Yeah, his own guy did more

705
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: than Garrett in that game. I think that's promising, especially

706
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: going into Max Crosby week where Bosa and Garrett didn't

707
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: kill you.

708
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: Two weeks in a row, they had two combined tackles.

709
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: They each had a tackle.

710
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: Their combined SAT line is two tackles and that's it.

711
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

712
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: Wow, And for two guys who are making you know,

713
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: a combined seventy five million dollars this year.

714
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're gonna get Defensive Player of the Year votes.

715
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are elite players. And I don't

716
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: want to look too far into the Raiders. It's only Tuesday. Tuesday.

717
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna be sending me stats tomorrow.

718
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: And they're already about two thousand words of it is

719
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: written there. But Crosby is the only show in town

720
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: for them. If you can take away a number one

721
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: pass rusher, it's one of the few promises things this

722
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: offense is done. You should have a lot of success

723
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: against the Raiders.

724
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, as long as the other guys don't

725
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 4: beat you.

726
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: The problem, you know, in these first two weeks has

727
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: been these both of these teams had other guys they

728
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: can they can hurt you far more than far more

729
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: than the Raiders do.

730
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Drake Jackson and hard Grave and yeah, we talked

731
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: about the Rams, the Browns guys. Yeah, without question.

732
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: I also thought, even though there were some mistackles and

733
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 2: things of that nature, met I look at the so

734
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: Kawhan Alexander nine tackles, tackle for a loss, Cole Holcomb

735
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: eight tackles, a tackle for a loss, a force fumble.

736
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: Cole Holcomb is ever gonna be Jack Lambert, But I

737
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: thought he played much better in this game than the

738
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: first week. Yeah.

739
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 4: And you know, even Roberts, you know, chipped in two

740
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 4: more tackles, So you.

741
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: Got he always makes an impact player too.

742
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got nineteen tackles, two tackles for a loss,

743
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: and a force fumble out of your inside linebackers.

744
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: Better than all last year, all of last year talking

745
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: about Yeah, you know, Bush is backing up somewhere in Seattle,

746
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: and Jack's not even the league anymore.

747
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 4: So you know, I think there's gonna be a huge

748
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: position of strength.

749
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be Ham Lambert in Kirkland. I mean

750
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: I get that, but it's not a bad three man

751
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: rate rotation. And considering what you've invested in there, I'll

752
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: take not a bad three man rotation.

753
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so they have to do a better

754
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: job of again getting some wrap ups and things not

755
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: over pursuing. I mean that the sixty nine yard run

756
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: was just you could see that coming up just as

757
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: it developed, like everybody flowed to the right, to their left,

758
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: the defense all flowed in the left and over pursued in.

759
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: All this space.

760
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: As soon as he cut back, I was like, oh.

761
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: Boy, yeah you thought somebody would. I thought it'd be

762
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: better than that. But boy you thought. I mean that's

763
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: Barry Sanders type stuff. Yeah, that must comparing on to

764
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: Barry Standers. But I mean, like those those whole I

765
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: mean Nausey did it in this game. It has totally

766
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: changed the total opposite field type of run where people

767
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: just over pursue and you have a little patience and

768
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: you break it back. It's easier said than done, but

769
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: it's also easy easier correct somewhat easily correctable as a defense. Yeah,

770
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: just don't crash so hard.

771
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody's got to have the backside somebody.

772
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: They don't want it to be a one hundred and

773
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: eighty pounds corner. And Wallace had a tough day, I thought. Overall. Yeah,

774
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: he also drew Marty Cooper a lot.

775
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: Not his best day. They were able to get Joey

776
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 2: Porter Junior on the field for fourteen plays in this game.

777
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: Quick question for it, and I think I I was

778
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: asked this like ten times by whomever and all over, Well,

779
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: why don't they just get put a Porter in there

780
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: for Wallace? Well, I explained that this is this. I

781
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 3: know it's not left tackle, right tackle, but every snap

782
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: that I remember watching, Porter has always been the left

783
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: corner correct, and Wallace is always the right corner. And

784
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: this team doesn't flow up their corners right and for

785
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: whatever reason, good or bad, I don't think it's bad.

786
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: It's just continuity. He's never played that right corner, so

787
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: I assume that's what He's not going to be a

788
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 3: direcord placement for Wallace if they're I'm not even suggesting

789
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: he needs bench. But there's one spot on this defense.

790
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 3: Porter plays and it's left corner outside that I'm here.

791
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: And they're doing that for a reason because Patrick Peterson's

792
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: not you know, they want him to be the eventual

793
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: replacement for Patrick Peterson Peterson, I mean, simplified for the

794
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: rook I I get Tim Benz and I went round

795
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: and round about this yesterday on the on the pregame show.

796
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: Why couldn't they get Porter on the field for more

797
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: than seven snaps? Like, well, he was the play he

798
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: was going to play in the dime. Well why couldn't

799
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: Why did't they just put him in? Who are you replacing? Well,

800
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: he would just replace Patrick Peterson. So you're saying Patrick

801
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: Peterson had a bad game, Well, yeah, he gave up

802
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: two touchdowns.

803
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 4: What he's also the he also broke up two passes.

804
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: He was in perfect position on the second touchdown. I'm like,

805
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: I didn't think he played poor experience, I didn't think

806
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 4: he played poorly at all. And you're playing a team

807
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 4: in the forty nine.

808
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: Ers who that he's super familiar with, and yeah, a

809
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 3: real challenge. Yeah, So I think Porter played fourteen snaps in.

810
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 4: This fourteen snaps in this game.

811
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they're going to ramp him up.

812
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: But he's almost, like my point was, he's almost like

813
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: the center that can only play center, and right now

814
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: he's not the best center on the team.

815
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, or he's your he's your platoon forth first baseman. Yeah,

816
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: but you're not gonna throw him in the outfield. Yeah.

817
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I didn't mean a basketball center. I

818
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: mean like a center that can't play guard. Right, But

819
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: you're behind Dirk Austin, you know, so so be it.

820
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: So his day will come.

821
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't want to see them rush

822
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: him in and see him have some because rookie corners

823
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: are going to have some tough ho The ball is

824
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: going to go their way a lot. The more they're

825
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: on the field. If you're if you're picking and choosing

826
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: your moments, when that happens. Now, you can get him

827
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: some confidences the fourteen.

828
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe this week, it's you know, twenty something.

829
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: Two weeks from now, it's he's a full time player.

830
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: To me, that was one of the biggest problems with

831
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Ardie Burns. It's one of the things that happened to

832
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: Cortez Allen. These guys got thrust in there, I think before.

833
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 4: They were ready.

834
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: Confidence is so huge that.

835
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: Position more so than any other position on the field.

836
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Not that's not quarterback. You know, if you're not confident

837
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: at the cornerback position, you're in trouble.

838
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: And it seems to me, and I don't know the

839
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: young man, but it's just the way he's playing and

840
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: being used. His confidence should be growing. Where if you

841
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: threw him in the middle, maybe he would be going backwards.

842
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: If he's out there giving up, you know, sick catches

843
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: to Amari Cooper or something like that. Okay, now he

844
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 2: starts questioning, am I doing this the right way?

845
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 4: Maybe?

846
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: One of the things that I heard early on about

847
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: Ardie Burns was they were teaching him a completely different

848
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: way to defend things, of.

849
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 4: Course, yeah, than what he did at Miami.

850
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: He was a very simple man coverage corner.

851
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: But as soon as he would run, he would do

852
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: things the right way until he ran into trouble and

853
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: then he would revert back to what he did at Miami.

854
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: So that's what they're worried. Like with Roderick Jones, Yeah, Okay,

855
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: you dip your head a little bit. It's fine in practice.

856
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: I need to see it in a game. You know,

857
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: you just have muscle memory. I'm in trouble. I went

858
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 3: back to what I know.

859
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: Because Tim Tim's whole argument, Well, I mean he was

860
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: he was the thirty second pick.

861
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: He was there de facto of another first round draft pick.

862
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: Why aren't they playing? I'm like, he's not ready.

863
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter where he's fake. Yeah, doesn't matter, you're not

864
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 4: Why play him? Why play him before he's ready? If

865
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: when he's ready, they'll know.

866
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: It's all about coaches confidence in the player. Yeah, and

867
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: that's not they don't need.

868
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 4: The whole idea that you just throw him in there

869
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: to see what he can do. The coach. That's how

870
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 4: you get Yeah, it might, but it typically does, it

871
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 4: typically doesn't.

872
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: And the coaches get to see these guys. They've seen

873
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: Joey Porter now for the last four months. They have

874
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: a pretty good idea where he's at and what the

875
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: plan is for him.

876
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: We don't know it. That doesn't mean it's not the

877
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: right plan. It's their plan. I don't know if it's

878
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: right or wrong. We'll know. We won't know if it

879
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: was right or wrong for two more years probably.

880
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we all agree he has a higher steeling

881
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: than Wallace. Yeah, but he doesn't have the trust factor

882
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 3: Wallace does.

883
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: And he doesn't have the experience at this point. You're

884
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 4: getting him the experience in these games. You're also trying

885
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: to win these games.

886
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the that's a fine line of developing players

887
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: and you know, and winning. I'm sure we're gonna see

888
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: Broder Jones should be out there now. You know they

889
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: haven more a tough day Steelers line the mess time

890
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: for Jones, who cares what they do could be worse. Yeah,

891
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: and you don't know it's better. Yeah, you just don't

892
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: know what time is coming.

893
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: It's the time. It's the whole backup quarterback. Then, well

894
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 4: have the backup's got to be better than the starter,

895
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: does he?

896
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: Oh, we'll definitely be healthier than we were last year.

897
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: You know it doesn't work that way all the time. Yeah,

898
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: you don't know that. Yeah, I am curious if King

899
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: gets a hat soon though. I think he could help.

900
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: I don't think, MA sure where he'd help, but I

901
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 3: would I like the player.

902
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know that's something that's coming down

903
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 4: the road. Here. We'll you know, we'll.

904
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: See you'll get that in your back pocket.

905
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: Right again, that's that's the depth that you wanted to

906
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: have he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're

907
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're

908
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: gonna take another break. We'll be back to continue talking

909
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: about well this game and what Mike Tomlin had to say. Sure,

910
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: get a little injury update here when we come back

911
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: right after this on the drive.

912
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

913
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: your twenty four seven home of the Black and Gold

914
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio.

915
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 4: Welcome back. I am Dale Lallie. He is the Matt

916
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 4: Williamson recognized everywhere.

917
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, as as.

918
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: He goes out in the public and people just recognize him,

919
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 4: He's Matt Williamson.

920
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

921
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: Anyways, So Mike Tomlin, as I mentioned in the previous segment,

922
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: had his press conference today, said that Minka Fitzpatrick was

923
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: checked out at.

924
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: The hospital local hospital.

925
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: Good.

926
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 4: Everything is fine.

927
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 3: That's not the worst. When I mean I was watching

928
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: on TV and thought the worst.

929
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 4: It's a chess contusion. Those things happen in football.

930
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: Pat Friarmouth dealt with the same thing this past week

931
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: coming out of the game against the forty nine Ers.

932
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: He was able to come back and play. Not that

933
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 4: you would know it from the stat sheet, but he

934
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 4: was he was able to play.

935
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: Hopefully the same is true for Manco, right yeah, right,

936
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: you know, he's.

937
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: I wouldn't expect him to practice a whole lot this week,

938
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: but he's not a guy that needs a whole lot

939
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: of practice to get there.

940
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: He played well too. Yeah, and then Riley got kind

941
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: of thrust into the action and he.

942
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 4: Did okay, did some stuff. Yeah, did some stuff. Uh.

943
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: Looking at the other injuries, uh, Land and Roberts was

944
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: a stinger, Okay, so that seems like that's gonna be okay.

945
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: That was one of these things.

946
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: It was a weird one because they basically had to

947
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: stop a special teams. He was out there for a

948
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: field goal and they had they had to stop. He

949
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: stopped and went down to one knee, like you know, My.

950
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: First thought was was it something medical? You know, like right,

951
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: not like was he having a stroke, but like was

952
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: he dizzy or you know, like I thought there was

953
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: something the hard issue or something weird like that. And

954
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: fortunately that wasn't the issue. But he handled it differently

955
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: than most football injuries. Yeah, you know, he just kind

956
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: of stopped and kind of leaned over trying.

957
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: To think if there's any other injuries, there was one

958
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 4: other one.

959
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: I can't there's definitely another Gunner.

960
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Gunner. Gunner has a concussion concussion protocol. Okay,

961
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: that's all I'm gonna say about that.

962
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean he took a big hit. There's no

963
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: doubt about it.

964
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 3: A big hit. I don't understand his fielding of that.

965
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: I think his instincts took over could because he's been

966
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: a punt returner over the course of his career, because

967
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: he's a he's he's a smart player.

968
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: Didn't show it there.

969
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: He didn't show it there.

970
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: He's been typically and I think as soon as he

971
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: caught it, he realized and he could because he then

972
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: put up the the hand, got.

973
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: His toes and bounds like he was John Stalwart. Yeah,

974
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: you know, like you're trying to do the opposite. If

975
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: you just one hand.

976
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 4: Out, let it go out. Yeah, let it go out.

977
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: I mean the rules are very advantageous to you there.

978
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 3: That's that's a flat out mental error.

979
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: If I'm if I'm not wrong, and I've seen this before,

980
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: if you catch the ball with one foot out and one.

981
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: Foot in, I think that's that's what it's saying you

982
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 4: get it at the forty.

983
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what he should have done, not

984
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: the total opposite. I didn't understand it. Yeah, that was

985
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 3: lost that one.

986
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: Uh. Yeah, that was not a good series of events

987
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: there for Gunner. Uh.

988
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 2: Not a good series of events for the Browns. Nick

989
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: Chubb uh done for the season. There's been a lot

990
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: of speculation, a lot of angst out there on social media,

991
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: mostly from Browns fans, but.

992
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 4: There's been some NFL guys. Chirp chimed in about this

993
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: as well. Uh.

994
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: I didn't have a problem with the make of Fitzpatrick

995
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: hit on that. You're trying to get a two hundred

996
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: and thirty five pound running back on the ground like

997
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: the hardesty h slipping tackles left and right throughout this game.

998
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 2: It's he's on the he's on the three yard line,

999
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: he's got ahead of steam. You can't see that that

1000
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: Cole Holcombe has him wrapped up up, you know, up top.

1001
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: You're coming in to make the tackle, and it just

1002
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: so happened he unfortunately hit him on the knee and

1003
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 2: the knee buckled.

1004
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. To be honest, I haven't watched the second time,

1005
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: but they and they didn't reshow it to the viewing audiences,

1006
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: but they did in the in at halftime. They just

1007
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: didn't show the Aweah. I never thought twice about it

1008
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: until this morning when I saw there was controversy.

1009
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: I didn't even know what was going on until they

1010
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 4: showed it again on the jumbo run in the stadium, Like, ooh,

1011
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: if he hits him an inch lower or an inch higher,

1012
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: that probably doesn't happen. It doesn't happen, but you're talking

1013
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 4: an inch.

1014
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think there was intent.

1015
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: There was certainly no intent there.

1016
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: In fact, the first guy I remember, Fitzpatrick, was shaking

1017
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: up on the play. He took kind of a shot

1018
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: on that as well, so they're both down. When Minka

1019
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: gets up, the first thing he did was walk over

1020
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: to the cart with with Nick Chubbs up on the

1021
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: cart by that point.

1022
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: And realizing that yeaheah. I saw no problem with it

1023
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: as a football play whatsoever. I don't think there was

1024
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: any malicious intent, and since we brought it up, I

1025
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: was in the stadium, you were, But I commend all

1026
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: those in attendance for being classy about it. Yeah, they

1027
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: were like chanting his name and obviously.

1028
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: Felt platform as he was going off, and.

1029
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: I guess they showed it once on the jumbo tron.

1030
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 4: People saw and then the whole crowd went, oh you heard, yeah,

1031
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 4: you know.

1032
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 3: And realized this is a great player and a human

1033
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: being whose life is being changed tremendously in his career.

1034
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean there are people out there saying, well,

1035
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 4: he targeted his bad knee, like, oh, yeah, he went

1036
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 4: into it. I get a shot at his bad because

1037
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 4: he missed games I think his last year at Georgia.

1038
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: Six years ago.

1039
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's his bad knee. Now it hasn't shown.

1040
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 3: Up on tape for the last four or five years

1041
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: in the NFL.

1042
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 4: I mean, it's an unfortunate stinks. It's awful, terrible. Yeah,

1043
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 4: it's awful, but it was not intentional. I mean, it's football.

1044
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 4: Things happen.

1045
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: You're trying to get you know, it's a it's a

1046
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: rough game. You're never going to be able to get

1047
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: those things out of that where's he supposed.

1048
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 4: To tackle him?

1049
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: If you can't tackle him.

1050
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 4: On the leg.

1051
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 3: You know, again, ninety nine out of one hundred times

1052
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen that way. That time it did, and

1053
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: it stinks. My least favorite thing about football. But it

1054
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: does happen, I really gonna hurt the Browns and it's

1055
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: really gonna hurt Chub's career probably.

1056
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, unfortunate, but again, there was no malicious intent

1057
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: or anything like that. That's ridiculous to suggest that it's

1058
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 2: sour grapes.

1059
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: Wouldn't have hopped up and been concerned if he was

1060
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: trying to hurt the guy, right, you know, he'sn't recovering

1061
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: from his own injury and he's more worried about Chubb

1062
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: than himself.

1063
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1064
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just one of those unfortunate situations, but

1065
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: you move on. Hopefully Nick Chubb is okay moving forward,

1066
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: hopefully he regains his former ability.

1067
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know that's I mean, it's he's

1068
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 3: gonna miss the year, and who knows from there.

1069
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see.

1070
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: Maybe they pick up Cream Hunt or somebody too.

1071
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, they're options out there.

1072
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get to another break. He is Matt

1073
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 2: Williamson and I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive

1074
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, it's

1075
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: time for the Fantasy Football Focus.

1076
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: Matt.

1077
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: We are two for two. Getting into the money with

1078
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: our DFS lineup. We'll go over that some of this

1079
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 2: week's top performer right after this.

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00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: This is Black and Gold fan habit s n O

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Speaker 4: n