1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien. I've got to concentrate on getting the 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: bolt out all the time, being aware that any mistake, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and this is the inches part, any mistake trying to 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: drill this six millimeter bolt shank out six millimeters is 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: a little less than a quarter inch, could cost this 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: lady a transmission. If you got a problem, don't care 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: about it. You need a hand. I'm not gonna show 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: you the car doctor. You know when I call you, 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm like at a crop. Okay, Welcome to the 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. Since 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five six and now 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: he running. I think, uh, I think I want to 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: start here today. Hello and welcome. By the way, um, 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the thirty change and I've 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: been trying to do this for a while. That's kind 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: of where I want to go with this. What should 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: an oil change cost? Do you ever think about this? 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean you guys, are pretty smart. I mean, look 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: at your taste and radio shows here you are. Um, 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: you know you've got good taste. We know you're intelligent. 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: All the choices you have, and you're listening to me. 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: Why don't I just hear everybody click off? Okay? Um? 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: You know? What should an oil change cost? What are 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: things worth? We all have a number in our head. 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: You ever noticed that we all have a uh? And 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's the human being in us right that that 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: preconceived notion of what value is. And you know, I've 32 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: never looked it up in the dictionary. I'll have to 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: do that one day. Maybe we can talk about it here. 34 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: What what Webster defines as value? But my mind value 35 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: is you know, when you receive something that meets your 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: particular level or standard of satisfaction, that makes you happy, 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: makes you feel like you were taken care of, makes 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: you feel like you know what you were treated fairly. 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Actual price is somewhere in my in my dictionary, somewhere 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: down around third or fourth in the in the in 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: the list, So what should an oil change costil change? 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: It seems like a lot of repair shops are doing 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: them these days. How they are doing them or I 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: know why, but how they're doing them, I don't. I 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: don't see and why you would want to stoop that low, 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: But you know that's what they're doing. Let's talk about it. 47 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: Here's the challenge. You're gonna go grocery shop in this week. 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: Next time you're in the supermarket, stop and look at 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: a court of oil. Right, they've got that automotive oil. 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Stop and look at a court of oil. How much 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: is a court of oil in in your local supermarket? 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: It's easily. I mean I've seen you. Okay, it could 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: be three or four dollars, but I'm talking a good 54 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: name brand, decent quality. It's got to be five bucks 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: a court, right for sixty nine nine something like that, 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Let's call it five bucks a court. Let's round it off. 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: The average car takes four quarts of oil. There's twenty bucks, 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: all right, so you know when the repair shop is 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna mark it up a little bit because they gotta 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: eat too. But we're gonna use twenty We're gonna use 61 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: five dollars a quarters. Our benchmark. Here a decent oil filter. Oh, 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: I know somebody's gonna write me all round. I can 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: get oil filters for three dollars and they're major that Yeah, okay, 64 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking on average. Five bucks again dollars is probably 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: material cost for an oil change if you were to 66 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: do it yourself. For you know, maybe that repair shops 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: got a sharper pencil because they're buying in bulk and volume. 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: But let's use twenty five dollars as our barometer. They 69 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: gotta pay the guy to do it all, right, now, 70 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: you know some of these vehicles, it's it's it's real quick. 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: It's look at the split. It's seven eight minutes and 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: the oil change is done. Of course, I don't know 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: what they're really doing in that seven eight minutes, which 74 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: sort of defeats in my mind, the whole purpose of 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: the oil change, because isn't the oil change, you know, 76 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: meant is it's sort of like a stop gap on 77 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: the trip, the journey for the car where you know 78 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: it's going to now get looked at and looked over, 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: and you know, what does the undercarriage look like? Uh? 80 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: You know, what's what's ready to fall out, what's damaged 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: from the pothole hit, what's ruined from running over the 82 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: turkey that ran across the highway in the week before 83 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: that actually happened to me last week. I meant to 84 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: tell you that, but I avoided it. So the suburban 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: is still intact. I don't know about the guy in 86 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: the BMW to my left, but you know, um, I'm okay. 87 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: So you know what's all that worth to me? An 88 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: oil change is easily twenty minutes till a half hour 89 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: shop time by the time you road test it. Oh 90 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: oh wait, your oil change place doesn't road test the car. 91 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: So you're happy that the oil change which has now 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: gotten longer, right because it's oil changes are anywhere from 93 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: four to eight months before we actually do them, depending 94 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: on how many miles you drive. So you're saying on 95 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: average six months. You mean you don't want a mechanic 96 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: looking at your car every six months to see what 97 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: kind of shape it's in. You're comfortable with that. You're 98 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: comfortable with putting your wife and kids, or your your 99 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: has been and kids, or your your family in that 100 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: vehicle and letting them drive that in perpetuity without anybody 101 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: really looking at it. Oh wait, I know what the 102 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: answer to that is. You're afraid the mechanics going to 103 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: rip you off, So you're going to a mechanic you 104 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: don't trust, but you're gonna let them work on the 105 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: car anyway because they're gonna do a thirty oil change 106 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: or whatever the case might be. You really got to 107 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: look at this. This is a hard this is a 108 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: hard lesson here, all right. The thirtel change doesn't work 109 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: because what always happens. They always try to sell you something. 110 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: You ever noticed that, Oh, g Mrs Jones, you need 111 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: a tire rotation, G Mrs Jones, you need a cabin filter, 112 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: G Mrs Jones, you need an air filter. G Mrs Jones. 113 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: You know it's time for breaks, and it's it's and 114 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: and you gotta be smarter than that. Folks. You know 115 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: that thirty changes is fishing with hand grenades. They're just 116 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: trying to hit as many people as possible as they 117 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: possibly can. Do a cheap oil change, drag somebody in 118 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: a door, not necessarily give the vehicle proper service, and 119 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: get you to agree to something else. But yet you 120 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: keep going back. You know, I can't tell you how 121 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: many times during the course of the week I hear 122 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: somebody say, yeah, I don't like going to so and 123 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: so they're a bad shop, or yeah, I know they 124 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: can't really diagnose much, but they do a really cheap 125 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: oil change, and I just go for the oil change. Well, 126 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, you've got to look at it too. Would 127 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: you go to a doctor that gave cheap service but 128 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: wasn't competent, because well, he gets a real good physical, 129 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't trust them to operate on me. Well, yeah, 130 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: but you gotta understand if he's if he's giving you 131 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: the physical, if he's doing the oil change and he 132 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: forgets to put the drain plug in and the oil 133 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: falls out, he's the guy that's now going to do 134 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: the engine. So you're you're sort of elevating yourself into 135 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: his world where he's going to be doing the service 136 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: and the mechanical work. Anyway, the mechanical work you don't trust. 137 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: So you've got to think about that, that th oil change. Listen, 138 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: maybe that's what you want, Maybe that's what you need. 139 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: You know what? What what started all this was I 140 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: I went for a physical this week and I was 141 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: talking to the nurse and she was new and she's 142 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: telling me about she had gone to the local Nissan 143 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: dealer for a thirty oil change. And every time I go, 144 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: they try to sell me something. But why do you 145 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: go for the thtil change? Well, because it's cheap, but 146 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: you've got to expect them to sell you something. But 147 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: why do they have to do that. Christina actually got 148 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: the the the first version of this story, all right, 149 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: because I gave it to her and about six minutes 150 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: and um, you know, she said, boy, that just makes 151 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. She also said, you know, you 152 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: have a very good voice. You should be on radio. 153 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: I kind of didn't want to go there with that, 154 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: but I just sort of let it slide under the radar. 155 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: You gotta stop and think about it. You get what 156 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: you paid for, right. Mama always said that. Mama wasn't wrong. 157 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: You know. It's it's it's a conversation of you know, 158 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: what can you afford? That's a different conversation. One of 159 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: the things I said to Christina, I said, why do 160 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: you go for the cheap oil change? And beside the price? 161 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: She said, well, you know, I leased the car and 162 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: I want to put a lot of money in it. 163 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: You know what, it's older. Keep doing the thirty oil change. 164 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: It's their problem the cars under warranty. If I leased 165 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: a car and I was going to hand it back 166 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: to him, and I knew I was going to hand 167 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: it back to him. Good lord, I do every thirty 168 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: oil change, rotate the tires when they told me, and 169 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: down the road, I wouldn't care. I'd follow manufacturers recommendation. 170 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: And I've said that for a long time on this 171 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: show because I think it's all nonsense. I think when 172 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: that car gets older, it's gonna have mechanical issues. But 173 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: that's not your responsibility. You're renting something from them, and 174 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: they want to follow those guidelines, that's fine. But if 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: you're keeping that car, if you're planning on driving that 176 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: car to the two fifty or three hundred thousand mile mark, 177 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: you know that thirty oil change. They're cutting corners somewhere 178 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: because we already know it's twenty five bucks in material. 179 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: We always you know it's if it's a half hour 180 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: of time, will make it simple. And they're paying that 181 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: guy fifteen bucks an hour. That's seven fifty, so it's 182 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: close to fifty plus federal taxes, employees sales tax, employee 183 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: payroll taxes thirty five. They're making four dollars and cents 184 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: and that's going towards rent or or mortgage, or taxes 185 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: or overhead or lights or insurance and all the rest 186 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: of the list. It doesn't make any sense, But you 187 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: keep doing that thirty oil change because one thing I 188 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: can tell you for sure. Sooner or later you're gonna 189 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: call me and you're gonna have a problem that nobody 190 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: else can fix because they can't fix the oil change 191 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: because that's all they can do, or they're not mechanically 192 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: competent because their work isn't good enough to draw people 193 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: in based on merit. And that's really what the thirt 194 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: oil change is about. They have to do a cheap 195 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: oil change to attract customers because either their turnover is 196 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: too high or they can't do the work right in 197 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: the first place. And that's a problem. Proved me wrong, 198 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: zero zero running any of the Car Doctor coming back 199 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: right after this for the best in car advice. Give 200 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: Ron a call eight five five five zero nine nine 201 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: zero zero. Now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over 202 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: to Peyton and Virginia Beach and see what's going on here. Peyton, 203 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor. How can I help? Yes, 204 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: I have about two thousand five Chevy Tahoe and when 205 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm running the ah seed, it just happens randomly not 206 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: very often, but occasionally and all of a sudden, the 207 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: a C will do to hot hot air? Is this 208 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: what I've learned? Is what I've learned is all I've 209 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: gotta do is turn it off and turn it back 210 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: on and the A C comes back on? All right? 211 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: Is this a split system? Side to side? Can you can? 212 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: You can? You can you change temperature from the left 213 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: and the right side? Or is what correct? You can't? Okay? 214 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: Both sawe blow hot air? Uh? Well, about a good question. 215 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm on the driver's side, and 216 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: that's the only one I noticed. The next time it happens, 217 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: put your hand over in front of the passenger side 218 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: if you can, because one of those the passenger side ducks. 219 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: Because if I if I remember right, there's one vent 220 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: on the left side, there's two in the center, right, 221 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: and then there's one on the far right. Correct, So 222 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: those two in the center, one of those two should 223 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: be for the left, one of those should be for 224 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: the right. And the way you could find out for 225 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: sure is when the system is working, just just make 226 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: one side hot, one side cold, and you'll you'll you'll 227 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: get it. You'll see it, all right, So that'll prove 228 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: that will prove that what I'm stating is correct. All right, 229 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: So the next time you're driving it it happens, does 230 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: it happen to both sides? Are just one side? If 231 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: it happens to one side, and my suspicion is it's 232 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: going to happen just to the driver's side, then I'm 233 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: gonna tell you probably have a failing door actuator blend 234 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: or actuator for the driver's side alone. If it happens 235 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: to both where they both start to blow hot like that, 236 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: then my next suggestion is gonna be when it when 237 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: it happens, find someplace safe, pull over, get out, pop 238 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: the hood, and look at the A C compressor. Is 239 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: the compressor clutch engaged? Simplest test right, just we is 240 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: the compressor still on, not the compressors on, and it's 241 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: still blowing hot air out of both sides. That's good 242 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: information from the mechanic. My next step would be when 243 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: we pull codes, and not with an O B D 244 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: two code reader. We want to pull codes by year, 245 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: make model by manufacturer, and specifically go look at the 246 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: body computer which controls the A C system on that vehicle. 247 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Do we have any blend or fault or blend or 248 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: actuator faults and take it from there. But I think 249 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: what you're gonna find is it's gonna be the left 250 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: side is hot and the right side is called. And 251 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: if that's the case, you're probably going to find a 252 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: b as in Baker zero four one three blend or 253 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: actuator driver's side fault code. And that's gonna be the issue. 254 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: It's it's losing its position and it just defaults too hot. 255 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: The reason car, the reason car manufacturers do that, just 256 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of automotive trivia, is because back in 257 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: the seventies, yeah, I'm that old. Back in the seventies 258 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: General General motors had a vacuum controlled blend or position 259 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: and when it went bad, it defaulted the cold and 260 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: people would freeze to death in the car. So they, 261 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, all the lawsuits that encountered, Um, they decided 262 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: instead to make it reverse. Now, so now when the 263 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: A C system has a fault or the heating control 264 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: system has a fault, it the faults the hot because 265 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: nobody complains about being too hot in the winter. They 266 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: only complain about freezing for death, if you get my point. Um, 267 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: So that's that blend a blend door. Think of the 268 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: front door to your house. All right, You got a 269 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: front door on the house, right if you if if 270 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: it's stuffy in the room and you want to let 271 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: more air in, what do you do? You walk over, 272 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: you turn the knob, you pull the door open. And 273 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: then then when it gets too cold or somebody tells 274 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: you it's too cold, even though you think it's hot, 275 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: you go to close the door. You're the actuator. You're 276 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: the control all right, on top of on top of 277 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the evaporator case, which is the control unit for the 278 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: heating ventilation system. Under the dashboard. There's a series of doors, 279 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: all right. There's an evaporator coil, which is where the 280 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: cold air is made, and there's a heat or core 281 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: which is where the hot air is made. They just 282 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: change position of the door to blow hot or cold air. Well, 283 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: they couldn't fit you in the dash so they've got 284 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: a little electric motor with a series of plastic gears 285 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: sitting on top of the door. The computer command says, hey, 286 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: put it as step number five, or put it in 287 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: a position twenty, or put it at okay. It it 288 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: mathematically knows where it wants it to be if it 289 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: can't read it, or the gears failing or the motors 290 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: failing it, the faults the hot automatically does re starting 291 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: it give an indication of anything. Yeah, it tells me, right, 292 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: it tells me we're resetting something. And that's typically when 293 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: the actuators go bad, they reset because it only takes 294 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: a momentary glitch. It only takes a you know, if 295 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: during the course of our conversation there was static and 296 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: you couldn't hear one second of the conversation. Do you 297 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: ever have anybody leave a message on your answering machine 298 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: because this happens at the shop all the time. Makes 299 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: me crazy. They call, they leave a message and you know, 300 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: my phone number is two nine to uh. You know 301 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: you're going, Jay, let's guess what that last digit is. 302 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: But you know, because they were on a bad connection. 303 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: If the actuator has a bad connection and it just 304 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: misses one digital digit, that that throws the system into fault. Right, 305 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: I got you, all right? One out of question. It's 306 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: a two thousand five and it seems like it's a 307 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: little rough. Would it be worth it to change shocks 308 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: the ride? You mean it rides rough? Well, I'm just 309 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: wanting the shocks. New shocks would make it better. How 310 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: many miles are on this It's only like a hundred 311 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: three thousand, twelve miles. So you like the truck, yes, 312 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: you have? You owned it since new or you bought 313 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: it used or what's the story. I bought it two 314 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: or three about two years old, when it was two 315 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: years old, When it was two years old, that what 316 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: you said. Okay, well, well maybe maybe three two five. 317 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: I think I got it in two thousand nine. You've 318 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: had it, You've had a good ten twelve years. Yes, right, 319 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: so you know before you spend any money on it, 320 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm just being cautious, just being double's advocate, all right. 321 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: I would take it to my mechanic. You got a 322 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: good regular mechanic, a guy you like, a guy you trust. Yeah, 323 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: all right, you know, spend an hour of his time, 324 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: tell him to go over it if he hasn't already, 325 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: and just you know, listen, I'm thinking of putting some 326 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: money in the truck. I want to keep it because 327 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: obviously it's tough finding a car now, and it's real 328 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: expensive to get another Tahoe. We had a customer in 329 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: the shop the other day a tahoe should spent eighty 330 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: three tho dollars right down to the heated coffee cup holders. Um, 331 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, start thinking about that, right so, you know, 332 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: spend an hour of his time. Let him look at 333 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: the brakes, Let him look at the shocks, tires, any 334 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: major fluid leaks, What do the brake lines look like, 335 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: what do the fuel lines look like? What kind of 336 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: rust is underneath the truck? And if if all that 337 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: gets a claimed bill of hell, go ahead, keep I 338 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: keep it up, Keep pretty good, all right. I'm just 339 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: wondering at the shocks. Yes, shocks could definitely go yeah, absolutely, 340 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: especially at this age. Shocks and surely cause a rough rode. 341 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: My point is, before you spend what could you even 342 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: if you did it yourself, it's gonna be five for 343 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: a decent set of four shocks for a truck like that, 344 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: Before you spend the money, because of the aid, because 345 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: of the pattern of failures and the way russe will 346 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: take out breaking fuel lines on those vehicles, have it 347 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: looked at or look at it yourself and verify it 348 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: before you spend the bucks. But by all means, a 349 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: nice set of shocks will definitely help it ride better. 350 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm on any in the car Doctor. I'll be back 351 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: right after this. Fucko, Mac, We're the car Doctor at 352 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: five zero zero. Here'll take your calls and answer your questions. 353 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: Whatever you got going on. Let's go over and talk 354 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: to Brady in Virginia. Brady, Welcome to the Car Doctor. 355 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey, Ron, I appreciate yep um without. 356 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: I bought a two thousand nine GMC Sierra about three 357 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: years ago. When I bought it, the cruise control was 358 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: working pretty well, and then it kind of went to 359 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: like working three quarters of the time when I hit 360 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: the switch. And then somebody suggested about, you know, a 361 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: couple of months ago that I go on the control 362 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: panel and reset the D to reset the factory settings. 363 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: I did that. It got a lot, it got a 364 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: lot worse, and now it's like maybe a quarter of 365 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: the time it work all right. So has anybody tried 366 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: to diagnosis any attempts other than you know, the brother 367 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: in law method? Uh no, not yet. Okay, So we 368 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: want to we want to hook a scan tool up 369 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: and we're looking to see if it's got a P 370 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: zero five seven three. P zero five seven three is 371 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: an indication at the brake light switch is possibly faulty 372 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: or sending an input request when the vehicle is in 373 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: motion at the wrong time. It's got that, it's got 374 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: that sensibility. It will also occur the vehicles on cruise, 375 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: and if the brake light switch input isn't clean, it's 376 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: not a it's not a complete onnwall signal, it's more 377 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: of a digital type signal. It will cause that cruise 378 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: to be disabled. All right. So, and I'm not saying 379 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you to rush out tomorrow when replace 380 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: the brake light switch, all right, by any by any 381 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. I'm just telling you that when 382 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: it comes to intermittence, the highest failure rate occurs with 383 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: the brake light switch on those vehicles. And you want 384 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: to be sure that if you do replace it, you 385 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: get a good quality part, all right, Because I've seen 386 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: guys chase their tail. They'll buy the cheapest And I'm 387 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: not saying you would. I'm just saying, you know, I've 388 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: seen guys buy the cheapest break light switch they can 389 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: and they still got the same problem because they didn't 390 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: verify what they wanted to very what they needed to verify. 391 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: What I would do if we were at the shop 392 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: having the conversation, we took up a scan tool and 393 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: we would go down and look at body module because 394 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: I believe that's in body module cruise control on that 395 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: vehicle and there's actually going to be a pit. There's 396 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: actually gonna be a piece of data parameter that will 397 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: tell us break break pedal applied. Yes, No, And I 398 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: would take that car for a ride and I would 399 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: I would just put it in movie mode and monitor it. 400 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: And if the cruise stopped working and I've got it 401 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: on movie, you know what all I've got to do 402 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: is go back to the point where the cruise was 403 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: disabled and there's actually a pit four cruise on off, 404 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: they'll say on off. Put that right underneath the brake 405 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: light switch. And I'd probably only put two or three 406 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: up speed engine load, engine speed, um break light switch 407 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: and cruise. Take it for a rod, and if I 408 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: could catch it, if I could catch it in movie 409 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: mode where it says break break pedal applied, and I 410 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: know I didn't apply the brake pedal, Guess what, either, 411 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: I've got an electrical wiring harness problem something that's telling 412 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: it the brake pedals applied when it's not or I've 413 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: got a bad break pedal, brake pedal switch, I'm sorry, 414 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: all right, So yeah, there is yeah, every once in 415 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: a break you know, I have it in cruise control 416 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: and it'll just go out by itself, right, yep. You 417 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: could try and annoy it, put it in cruise control, 418 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: get yourself up on the highway. And I like to 419 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: do all this kind of testing when nobody's around, because 420 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: somehow you get lost in the diagnosis. You could be 421 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: surprised at things you almost hit, um when you're not 422 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: paying attention and um. If you can get it in 423 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: cruise control mode and real gentle, tap the brake pedal, 424 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: not not apply sideways, annoy it, you know, kick it 425 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: with your foot a little bit, Tap it with your 426 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: foot a little bit, all right. You know you want 427 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: to see if you create some noise down there by 428 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: the brake pedal switch. Does it create enough of a 429 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: problem that it actually turns it off? You know, if 430 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: you had if you had a scan tool looked up 431 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: to it, that would be great because you're looking at information. 432 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: I can't tell you, you know, twenty years ago we 433 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: hooked up scan tools for check engine lights and maybe 434 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: all right, now we hook a scan tool up for everything. 435 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: If the blinkers don't work, we hook a scan tool 436 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: up because it all goes through a computer. I had 437 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: a Ford edge. I'll tell you a quick story. I 438 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: had a Ford edge this week. The headlights would go 439 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: out after a period of time, and I had to 440 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: go through due diligence diagnosis looking at body computer PCM 441 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: headlights switch. Because the headlights switch wasn't really a switch, 442 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: it was an input control. It applied input to the 443 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: body module telling it it was requesting headlights to be on, 444 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: and then the body module made the decision to ground 445 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: the relay to turn the headlights on, so I could 446 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: actually go in and look. If I turned the headlights on, yes, request, 447 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: the headlights are out. Okay. I went out and I 448 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: measured voltage at the headlight connector. I think I told 449 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: you guys this story last week, cause in the last week, 450 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: at the beginning of this I don't remember which they 451 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: all kind of length together after a while, and I 452 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: had two bad bulbs in it, you know. So, but 453 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: those are the things you're looking for, all right. I 454 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: can't tell you how how important that that scan tool 455 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: isn't in a case like this. Now the other thing, 456 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 1: this could be just for just just four giggles, all right, 457 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: just to mention, I have seen in this particular series 458 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: of trucks, not just the SE errors, but you know, 459 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: the GM equivalence to Chevrolet equivalents wrong break light, wrong 460 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: break light bulbs or or a problem with break light bulbs, 461 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: short to power turning on, energizing the circuit and killing 462 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: cruise control as well. I haven't changed, so they should 463 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: be the same, all right, but I just well and listen. 464 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Anytime I give you, guys, diagnosis is I always try 465 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: to be specific, but but you know, I try to 466 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: give you as you know, the weird stuff I've seen. Yeah, 467 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, just because it's it's it's good for me 468 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: to bring it up to the top of my head 469 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: every once in a while. It airs it out. Um, okay. Now, 470 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: normally I'd go to like the Rilly's and they have 471 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: them scan it. They won't see it. Well, they might 472 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: because it is a power train fault, but they may 473 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: not see it. If it's not a missions related They 474 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: would have to go in and scan it on a 475 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: year make model basis. So you have to ask them, 476 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: how are they do you understand what I mean when 477 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: I say that, Brady. Yeah, right, Well, you know there's 478 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: there's you know, like, how many languages do you speak? 479 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: Just that cure English? You speak one? Uh well speake 480 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: Thrain but not fluently. Okay, But so you speak English, 481 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: that's O B D two all right. And what's the 482 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: second language? You speak Spanish? Okay, so that's that's your 483 00:25:53,640 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: make model, manufacturer specific. But you're only one person, see right, 484 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: So you know that's why you know you've got to 485 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: ask O'Riley Otto parts when they do this, are they 486 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: scanning this as O B D two? Are they scanning 487 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: this as your make model? Your make model for something 488 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: like this is more where you want to be, because 489 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: then you're gonna get more complete information, all right. And 490 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: then if it isn't, if it is a five seventy 491 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: three and it is a break light switch, you can 492 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: get one of Orillyoto parts. Ask them, you know, what's 493 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: the best quality they've got, and they've got some good 494 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: stuff there. Yeah, exactly. My dad always said he couldn't 495 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: afford to buy cheap he can't afford to buy cheap. Well, 496 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: you can afford to buy cheap ones. Then you'll learn 497 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: the lesson. All right, all right, thank you, You're very welcome, sir, 498 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: call me if you need more zero. I'm running any 499 00:26:51,240 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: in the card doctor. I'll be back right after this. Hey, 500 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: welcome back. Name of the car, Docu. Let's get over 501 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: and talk to Pete in Pennsylvania. What's going on, Peter? 502 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: How are you hi? Good? Thanks for taking the call. Um? 503 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: I drive Um A car that has has some older 504 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: has a lot of miles on. I don't know if 505 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: that has anything to do with the problem. Um. I 506 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: noticed that if I have to come to a stop quickly, 507 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: if I had to hit the brake paddle kind of hard, 508 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: the car stalls out very often. I'm usually able to 509 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: turn it off and turn it on again. Occasionally it 510 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: will also happen if I'm going up a steep embankments. 511 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: All right, when when when you say a lot of miles, Pete, 512 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: how many? How many miles? Is a lot? Just broken in? 513 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: It's not a lot? So? Um, what's what sort of maintenances? 514 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: This has? This rap forehead? Regular Royal changes, regular service 515 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: V six or four cylinder two by the way, four cylinder, 516 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: it's a fourth cylinder. Yeah, I've had regular maintenance on 517 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: it um oil changes every um three or four thousand miles. 518 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: And who's doing the service work? Just local? UM mechanic? Okay, Um? 519 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: You know, has he ever cleaned the throttle body? Do 520 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: you know? I don't know? Um? How long you live 521 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: in your house? About five years, all right? And before that, right, 522 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: you're living in a place a while. So have you 523 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: ever noticed every once in a while you gotta clean 524 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: the windows. Yeah, and once in a while you gotta 525 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: clean around the front door silk because dirt builds up 526 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: and affects airflow, if you get what I'm saying. So 527 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: so an engine breathe through its throttle body, all right. 528 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: A throttle body, if you don't, if you didn't know, 529 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: is just it's it's around cylindrical opening with a plate 530 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: in front of it. And when you push down on 531 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: the pedal, you're actually opening that round eight well, that 532 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: round plate in the closed position. It's kind of like 533 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: when you just crack the front door of the house 534 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: open a quarter inch, just a little bit of air 535 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: flow through, all right. But you know, over time, if 536 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: you left the front door crack that quarter inch, and 537 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: we went through the spring season and all the pollen 538 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: built up because it would drag itself in front of 539 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: that crack. It would start to block and prevent airflow. 540 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 1: Correct over time that that round throttle plate inside that 541 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: round throttle bore does the same thing. So the computer 542 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: is pretty smart. It can compensate up to a limit. 543 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: And then it gets to the end of its electronic 544 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: adjustment and so to speak, and it's electronic programming, and 545 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: it says, hey, I don't know what to do here, Pete. 546 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: You gotta help me out, all right, and it stalls. 547 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: So you know, it's a pretty simple, straightforward procedure. He 548 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: needs to follow guidelines and just clean the throttle body. 549 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's easier to take the throttle body up because 550 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: if it's really gunked up, you can get at it 551 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: from behind and really clean it out and and and 552 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: get all the carbon deposits off all right. And then 553 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: and obviously and obviously if it's really terrible, I would 554 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: check the PCV valve, make sure it's got a good 555 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: crank case ventilation going on. I've seen sometimes higher mileage 556 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: cars the PCV isn't isn't working properly, and that creates 557 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: excessive crank case pressure. And that's why the throttle body 558 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: got excessively dirty, but it could also be aged. And 559 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: then when he cleans the throttle body, puts it all 560 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: back together, then he's gonna find now the idle speed 561 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: is gonna do what it's gonna idle high. And it's 562 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: gonna idle high because now you're adding more air to it. 563 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: So the computer is trying to compensate for it. It's 564 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: seeing greater airflow across the mass airflow sensor and it's 565 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: completely confused. So to prevent the phone call, although I 566 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: like talking to you, Pete, UM, to prevent the phone 567 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: call back next week, he's gonna have to do an 568 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: idol relearn which on that particular Toyota is real simple. 569 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: Pull both battery cables off and tie the cables not 570 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: the battery, tie the cables together, all right, with with 571 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: it with a jumper, and bleed down the computer's memory, alright. 572 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: And what that's gonna do is that's gonna put the 573 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: computer back into default and now it will learn as 574 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: if the vehicle were new. Makes sense. We have to 575 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: we have to re educate it. It just it just 576 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: needs a little help, all right. And then um put 577 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: it all back together, clean everything up, and you know 578 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: you should be fine, but I would start with before 579 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: I got crazy and started looking for bigger issues. Obviously, 580 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: you know steps, steps, steps, scanning for codes. I don't 581 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: care if the check engine lights on or not, scanning 582 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: for codes, all right, does it have anything pending? I 583 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: would look at codes. I would look at fuel trim. 584 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: I would look at throttle angle, all right. If throttle 585 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: angle is excessive, then maybe we've got so much carbon 586 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: in there it's jamming the plate open again. Looking for 587 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: what's good. I'll tell you what's bad, all right. It's 588 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: always good to have information in numbers, and it's quick 589 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: and easy to do. All right, all right, thank you 590 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: very much. You're very welcome. You'd be well. Thank you. 591 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: Always fun to hear from somebody. See, I knew Pete 592 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: was from Altuna. I should have told him I was 593 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: there a couple of weeks ago. I could have stopped 594 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: it in and then my tools with me. I'm sorry, 595 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: what tools? Zero will be back right after this. Don't 596 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: go away, welcome back, ran the in the car doctor. 597 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Let's go get one more. Let's go get Chris in Indiana. Chris, 598 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: I've got about three minutes, brother, what's going on, Okay. 599 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: I have a two thousand Oldsmobile, a larrow and the 600 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: problem I'm having is is when I go to drive 601 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: down the road, it doesn't seem to want to shift 602 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: out a second gear or first gear really, and the 603 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: RPMs will just climb up and I'll be rolling at 604 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: three to four thousand RPMs just to get up to speed. 605 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: It'll drive just fine if I'm in town, drive in going, 606 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, but once you start to hit a higher speed, 607 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: it it doesn't seem to want to shift into another gear. 608 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: But it doesn't give any problems going in reverse, going 609 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: and dry, but it'll have it has first and second, 610 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem to have third and fourth exactly. Okay, 611 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: so you know, obviously the easy answer is, hey, Chris, 612 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: you need a transmission, all right, but before we go there, 613 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: because that's easy enough for a shop to check out. 614 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: Um any dashboard warning lights on, any check engine light, 615 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: anything like that. Yeah, okay. Have you scanned it for codes? Yeah, 616 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: it gave me some. Uh, it gave me some like 617 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: cylinder misfire code. All right. Did it give you a 618 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: P zero one anything with throttle position sensor? I don't know, 619 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: all right, So let me tell you. Let me tell 620 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: you the weird stuff, because the easy stuff is, hey, Chris, 621 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: it needs a trans and I think you can deal 622 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: with that, all right, So I want to I want 623 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: to tell you the one that nobody's gonna find. That's 624 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: my job, all right. So this particular generation GM product 625 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: which set a P zero one which affects throttle position sensor. 626 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: If the throttle position sensor is out of range reading 627 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: and correctly setting a fault code, losing its five vault reference, 628 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: it will affect transmission operation. I don't believe it's going 629 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: to be your case. I just want to mention this, 630 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: all right. So you could have a bad throttle position 631 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: sensor affecting transmission operation and cause it not to shift. Now, 632 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: the weird one is the fuel tank pressure sensor or 633 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: the high side a C pressure switch will fail or 634 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: there'll be a wiring issue. They are on the same 635 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: five volt feed. That will affect throttle position sensor. That 636 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: will affect transmission operation. So you could have a bad 637 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: FTP or a bad a C pressure switch, the trans 638 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: won't shift. You'll tear your hair out looking for it. 639 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: That's the weird story that I want you to know. 640 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: Until the next time I'm on an Ani in the 641 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: car Doctor reminding all of you good mechanics aren't expensive, 642 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See you