Speaker 1: What's up And welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: load glasses Malone. So it's like I'm saying, just this
Speaker 1: whole healing process. It's weird because like in eleven twelve,
Speaker 1: when I started figuring out, like I had made all
Speaker 1: his money and rap you, I mean, I had made
Speaker 1: probably about two three million dollars in like three four years,
Speaker 1: five years maybe from like seven to eleven, I had
Speaker 1: made like money crazy right where it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was doing. I was just
Speaker 1: articuling enough and I had a good sense of rhythm.
Speaker 1: But really my engineer, Guido, who produced my first project,
Speaker 1: it was his time, you know what I mean, it
Speaker 1: was his time. Like he had paid his dues in
Speaker 1: the business to understand records, you know, to understand music.
Speaker 1: He knew what records were. As a DJ, he had
Speaker 1: mixed y'all remember that pet y'all young, But it was
Speaker 1: a paperboy song called Diddy Dude of Diddy Diddy if
Speaker 1: you want to dad. So this was a huge platinum,
Speaker 1: double platinum record on the West. He mixed that song.
Speaker 1: He had been working next to rhythm D. Rhythm D
Speaker 1: did real motherfucking g'z you know, comp City g s
Speaker 1: and all that. So he had been in at DJing
Speaker 1: and knowing records. It was his time, and I was
Speaker 1: a benefactor as an MC of what he knew about
Speaker 1: making records. He would keep me in pocket when it
Speaker 1: came to doing hooks, he would for the most part,
Speaker 1: you know, even if he didn't produce the specific record
Speaker 1: on the album on White Lightning, he would be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this record and this record. If I liked him, he'd
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, let's use this one in this one.
Speaker 1: He knew what it was. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question not even interrupt you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I view that personally as producing as.
Speaker 2: You do you the same way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the irony is the irony is just backing
Speaker 1: up something my nigga king asked me. He said, man,
Speaker 1: when did you think you was gonna have When did
Speaker 1: you realize it was gonna be a problem? Like when
Speaker 1: did you attribute to what part of your career that
Speaker 1: it was going to be a problem. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: he said, what moment now that you know looking back,
Speaker 1: what moment? And I said, today, g we don't move
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, gwedo move to Atlanta before I finished the
Speaker 1: whole project, like the project was just about done, was
Speaker 1: to the last points of it. The only song I
Speaker 1: had to do left was two hundred, which ended up
Speaker 1: being the biggest record on there, and face picked that
Speaker 1: beat games older brother. I didn't even like the song
Speaker 1: two hundred. Long story short. I say all that to
Speaker 1: say that in twenty eleven, I realized I didn't know nothing,
Speaker 1: Like I just was articuling and just authentic, like it
Speaker 1: was really the real story, Like all my shit about
Speaker 1: gang banging selling that shit's real, Like no, for real,
Speaker 1: like not joking. Like it's like I didn't carry it
Speaker 1: like the way you hear you know the war stories
Speaker 1: now how I've talked to you about it. I carried
Speaker 1: it as a birden. So when you listen to early
Speaker 1: Glasses Malone music, it's more bluesy, like you could tell
Speaker 1: I was going through it. I mean, from two thousand
Speaker 1: and five six to twenty eleven, you could tell something
Speaker 1: that was a burden on my heart. So come fast
Speaker 1: forward to twenty eleven, twelve, you know I made head
Speaker 1: DJ head. I turned Head into a DJ in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. Head was just like a nigga that
Speaker 1: used to promote. He was like a nigga that was
Speaker 1: like Head is like here seems so serious. Now I know,
Speaker 1: y'all look at DJ here, y'all be like, man, Head
Speaker 1: is so serious, He's so deep. Head is a fucking clown.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to him one day. I want
Speaker 2: to intellectual conversation with me. It seems like.
Speaker 1: It's super intimate. But he's a fucking clown. Like he's
Speaker 1: a nigga like Kendrick, like Katok is a funny nigga,
Speaker 1: And you couldn't see it looking at I.
Speaker 2: Say that with kaw same thing with Kawhi.
Speaker 1: Yeah nigh, you couldn't see it with their personalities in
Speaker 1: the public that these two niggas are probably two of
Speaker 1: the funniest niggas in all the niggas I met in
Speaker 1: the history of niggas I met over these years. Head
Speaker 1: and fucking Katot and Kendrick are too funny. Like Head
Speaker 1: used to bag on niggas. Head had a comedy show.
Speaker 1: He did a he did a stand up and he
Speaker 1: bombed like it was like it was his first one.
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like that shit ain't
Speaker 1: no joke like and he bombed and he stopped being
Speaker 1: funny from that day on. But like Head in real
Speaker 1: life is a funny ass nigga. Long story short, He
Speaker 1: was a promoter. He was super social. Head can dance.
Speaker 1: Head don't look like he could dance. Hand can dance.
Speaker 1: Hen used to buss bitches. Head was always intellectional nigga,
Speaker 1: but he was always a social nigga. He was a
Speaker 1: social butterfly. He knew how to be dope in in society.
Speaker 1: And I turned him into a DJ because he was
Speaker 1: so smart like me and him click immediately off intellect
Speaker 1: like we clicked, like we started just you could tell
Speaker 1: we was gonna be thick as thieves for a while.
Speaker 1: And I made him a DJ so he could go
Speaker 1: everywhere with me. It wasn't like I just have you know,
Speaker 1: he not no nigga that for a fight a thousand niggas.
Speaker 1: So he ain't like the muscle. So I was like, look,
Speaker 1: I didn't have no DJ at that time, so I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, be a DJ, like you smart enough,
Speaker 1: you fuck with music, you know how to dance, you
Speaker 1: know parties. Head was like a huge factor on this
Speaker 1: old thing La they used to have called the club Mix,
Speaker 1: like it was a social media thing. Head was like
Speaker 1: a factor on that motherfucker. So heare became a DJ
Speaker 1: and picked it up instantly. This two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: nine ten, he's picking it up. He started getting booked
Speaker 1: at parties. He was controlling parties fast, he was lended fast.
Speaker 1: He just got dope fast. And twenty eleven, twelve, he
Speaker 1: came in. We was working on this project that's actually
Speaker 1: gonna come out in the next twelve months called White
Speaker 1: Lightning the two and it's this super musical, full experience
Speaker 1: of being a dope boy, Like I know it better
Speaker 1: than any nigga rapping today, Like that's something I know
Speaker 1: the real experience of being a dope boy because I
Speaker 1: used to sell PCP for years and it was just
Speaker 1: super heartfelt and soulful and bluesy. And Head just came
Speaker 1: in the studio being a jackass, like why is your
Speaker 1: song so fucking slow? Oh, my fucking song. So he
Speaker 1: went the booth and raped one of the lyrics, all
Speaker 1: my fucking song slow, And I was like, man, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And that was the day I
Speaker 1: learned about tempo. In twenty eleven, in December, and then
Speaker 1: I realized music was all different tempos. Before that, I
Speaker 1: never listened to it like that. I just knew a ballad,
Speaker 1: a rap song, and a Luke song. That's how I
Speaker 1: pretty much broke it down. Ballad, rap song, Luke song.
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown made a grip of rap songs. Even though
Speaker 1: you were saying that's a rap song. I mean, Luther
Speaker 1: Van Dross make ballads and Luke c Hit Factory make
Speaker 1: Luke songs. That's how I heard music. Scarface and Doctor
Speaker 1: Dre music was the exact same to me. The Ghetto
Speaker 1: Boys n w A was the same. They were rap
Speaker 1: songs until that day. And then that becan that set
Speaker 1: off this super crazy thing in my head, in my
Speaker 1: mind and my life, in my career, to where I
Speaker 1: didn't see music the same. Now I realized there was
Speaker 1: some numbers involved. I'm a math nick, I'm super savvy
Speaker 1: on songs. I've gotten a's at AP, physics, AP calculus,
Speaker 1: all this shit in high school. Like me in math,
Speaker 1: we do it.
Speaker 3: Not even not even to be a facetious or the joke,
Speaker 3: did you go to college at all?
Speaker 1: Only? At first, but selling dope became more important.
Speaker 3: How do you define it first, what two months, a month,
Speaker 3: three months, six months?
Speaker 1: Gave me three months?
Speaker 2: Okay, at least you tried it.
Speaker 1: You tried it. It wasn't that it was just selling.
Speaker 1: I just kept thinking of how much it was ignorant, bro,
Speaker 1: I just kept thinking how much money I was missing, missing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it just was sit like I wanted to be
Speaker 1: a pharmacist at that time in nineteen ninety seven ninety
Speaker 1: eight became one. Right, ironically, it was crazy, right. Look,
Speaker 1: I was gonna go to a ZUSA Pacific and be
Speaker 1: a pharmacist, you feel me? And pharmacists made sixty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a year. I was making sixty thousand dollars in
Speaker 1: eight months. That wasn't even when I started selling PCP.
Speaker 1: This is just regular rocks, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Franklin Saint Rocks straight up. So no sellers gl in here.
Speaker 1: I got some of my favorite guys in the history
Speaker 1: of entertainment and media in general. Hohoton, Bruce, my boy, Pavy,
Speaker 1: my boy TPJ. Let me make my points. So before
Speaker 1: we getting to what we talking about soap twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: I realized that was the day tempo. You know, this
Speaker 1: is twenty twelve, tempo was born in my mind. And
Speaker 1: now everything I heard of my songs now it sounded
Speaker 1: exactly closely to what it was. It stopped being just
Speaker 1: rap songs and start being like, it's way more to
Speaker 1: this shit. So I realized I didn't know shit about records.
Speaker 1: Everybody would be using this term in the music business, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a record or that's not a record, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck y'all talking about.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: I mean, a fucking record is like a vinyl nigga.
Speaker 4: What do we but the structure to a record?
Speaker 1: Yes, And I started understanding that it was more relating
Speaker 1: to is this an experience on its own? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Is this special on its own? Is
Speaker 1: it special? Do you hear it? Do you know what's
Speaker 1: going on? And I started trying to figure that out right,
Speaker 1: and I ended up making my biggest song, which was
Speaker 1: that good you know and Bam. Then I realized hip
Speaker 1: hop was way more than what I knew and what
Speaker 1: people was telling me. See, I thought hip hop was,
Speaker 1: you know, rappidy rap ass niggas, rappidy rappity rappie raps
Speaker 1: niggas about rapping about rapping by being better than rappers.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's what I thought. Hip
Speaker 1: hop was nigga dancing and ship dancing against each other.
Speaker 2: And something funny and not to even be happy.
Speaker 4: I feel like, was DC told me that DC.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I'm not going to take credit, just
Speaker 3: let me finish. Before he moved to LA, that's who
Speaker 3: he was, rappidi rapping. He just made songs. Once he
Speaker 3: moved to LA, he finally started making records.
Speaker 1: And so that's crazy because that's really how to be right.
Speaker 1: So I realized hip hop was like more of a
Speaker 1: cultural reveal, like I would think of Adidas in track
Speaker 1: suits as hip hop. That's New York drug dealer, drill,
Speaker 1: you know out there. Facts like all hip hop is
Speaker 1: reflecting street urban culture. And we talked about this time
Speaker 1: where I'm like, you know, everything about hip hop that
Speaker 1: we love came from street urban culture, right, some dope dealer,
Speaker 1: some gangsters. Hip hop in itself came from some gangsters,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you know, crazy legs
Speaker 1: and attack. All these niggas is criminals, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. They were trying to express theyself or trying
Speaker 1: to make a living blah blah blah. So it started
Speaker 1: off from twenty eleven twelve to twenty thirteen, fourteen, trying
Speaker 1: to understand records. Then I started trying to figure out
Speaker 1: hip hop, you know what I mean. I was like damn,
Speaker 1: And then I got a good grasp on it. Records
Speaker 1: came to me a little simpler, even though I'm not
Speaker 1: as good as like a doctor dre you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like they're simpler to me. Hip hop came
Speaker 1: a little bit more, but I figured it out. Marketing
Speaker 1: became the hardest thing. And so from twenty eleven to
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen December roughly, you know, to twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: I was just in college. So in the first few
Speaker 1: years I made three million to two three million dollars.
Speaker 1: In that time, I probably made eight hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: because it became like school. I wasn't worried about doing concerts.
Speaker 1: I wasn't worried about what records were selling. I was
Speaker 1: focused on learning, you know what had kind of changed
Speaker 1: my life, and I asked the super super dope you
Speaker 1: know niggas to help me. But long story short, at
Speaker 1: so I haven't been doing shows. That was the point
Speaker 1: I was making time. I haven't been doing shows. And
Speaker 1: so now that I had the surgery in January, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting back on my feet, it's like
Speaker 1: I'm starting to do shows because now I got music
Speaker 1: in the cue. You know what I'm saying. I got
Speaker 1: shit that's out there. Kanye should have never married that bitch.
Speaker 1: Songs is out so it's like, okay, let me start
Speaker 1: getting warmed. But between his injury in them shows, like
Speaker 1: I ain't really felt like myself, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And so I ain't been socially interacting like normal. Nothing,
Speaker 1: Like I could really only put my attention to one
Speaker 1: thing at a time because like my body is either
Speaker 1: taking a lot of mental energy to heal or like
Speaker 1: energy something wrong, you know what I'm saying. Because I ain't.
Speaker 1: I ain't functioning normal yet. So it's been a journey,
Speaker 1: but you know it was all worth it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Nigga here now, So now I'm coming back.
Speaker 1: But that whole journey from twenty eleven to nineteen, I
Speaker 1: had so dope tutelage, iced tea too short battle cap,
Speaker 1: a lot of dope people that I thought, wouldn't you
Speaker 1: know help me? Initially, I just didn't know the right
Speaker 1: questions to ask. I talked to Forty, and I could
Speaker 1: ask Forty stuff Me and Forty could talk for. I
Speaker 1: was sugar free quick Quick. I've been doing quick since
Speaker 1: I put out my first tape. So this two thousand
Speaker 1: and five Me and Quick conversation had never been lower
Speaker 1: than an hour till last year when I started understanding
Speaker 1: what it is and then we found a space to
Speaker 1: where we interact at. So it's crazy, but shout out
Speaker 1: to all them legends that have been guiding me the
Speaker 1: correct way and kind of which is crazy because this
Speaker 1: brings us to this conversation that we're about to have now,
Speaker 1: right is what the fuck is wrong with niggas? This
Speaker 1: nigga daddy is around.
Speaker 3: We talk about John Moran. Yes, okay, all right, I'm
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm glad. I'm glad the world can
Speaker 3: hear this shit because I'm wanted to tell you off
Speaker 3: since we had this fucking conversation and I told you
Speaker 3: that he wasn't gonna stop, and he said, Tom, you
Speaker 3: acting like you call you literally called me an uncle
Speaker 3: Tom because I said that he is not taking accountability
Speaker 3: for his actions, and he gonna crash out and do
Speaker 3: some stupid shit and then we all be like, why
Speaker 3: you do that dumb shit?
Speaker 2: So please go ahead and finish. I want to hear it.
Speaker 1: So this is my problem, right, It's like, this is
Speaker 1: my problem. He didn't do anything wrong, right, This is
Speaker 1: that the argument? Though, No, this is not the argument,
Speaker 1: because the argument is I told you don't do this,
Speaker 1: and you're still doing it anyway, So right, there is
Speaker 1: where you're correct at.
Speaker 3: I also knew before he did it that he wasn't
Speaker 3: supposed to be doing it.
Speaker 1: Again, he didn't do anything wrong. It's okay. It's legal
Speaker 1: to have a gun. You could brandish it anyway you
Speaker 1: want to. You could be over proud of it. You
Speaker 1: could put it on Christmas cars like all the white
Speaker 1: folks do with the kids. You can do all that, right,
Speaker 1: But if your employer is embarrassed by your actions and
Speaker 1: they make you aware to why, and they make you
Speaker 1: aware that this is a problem and this is punishable,
Speaker 1: the thing is right is you should know better. You
Speaker 1: should know better. Right, You should be like, I don't
Speaker 1: care if they say don't wear green shirts.
Speaker 4: Don't wear green shirts.
Speaker 1: If they're paying you twenty six million a year, thirty
Speaker 1: two a year. They like, hey, don't wear green shirts.
Speaker 4: Nigga, I would never, I would I would see a
Speaker 4: color green. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Look twenty six million dollars and ask me if I
Speaker 3: see the color green.
Speaker 2: No, that's blue.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't see the color green.
Speaker 1: Now, don't get me wrong, especially as black people in
Speaker 1: this country, they don't want us to wear our hair
Speaker 1: a certain way. We watch Alan Iverson go through this
Speaker 1: with the fit of his clothes, with the style of
Speaker 1: his hair. They're like, look, we're giving you thirty million
Speaker 1: a year, please don't do this, and he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 5: Till they put a dress code in because people did
Speaker 5: take a little too far, and I.
Speaker 4: Think it's too far.
Speaker 3: Clothing and brandishing firearms on Instagram are like both on
Speaker 3: the opposite ends of the spectrum, though, but they're really not.
Speaker 4: They come from the same they cause they're rooted in
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 1: They're rooted in the same get down they are.
Speaker 3: But like, let's be honest, you ai wearing fucking size
Speaker 3: six X pants and.
Speaker 2: A side sick because of what Because being in front of.
Speaker 3: The world flashing guns and putting guns up to it,
Speaker 3: playing like yeah, I got no different.
Speaker 4: The point yes and yes, wait wait wait wait let
Speaker 4: me this.
Speaker 5: If you look at it in a vacuum, sure to
Speaker 5: different things, but the point is to the people of them.
Speaker 4: You look like a thug either way.
Speaker 1: You're street clatter, street culture like.
Speaker 5: Either way like you brandishing a gun, and it's not
Speaker 5: you brandishing a gun in the way he's brandishing guns.
Speaker 5: You're riding around listening to NBA Young Boy with your
Speaker 5: homies on i G Live and you just got the
Speaker 5: tool like this, you're imitating street code.
Speaker 4: You look like something that my little homies that I
Speaker 4: grew up.
Speaker 5: With, who like fucking twenty five right now, will do
Speaker 5: on Instagram, except for they don't have twenty six million
Speaker 5: dollars thirty AI wearing fucking size six pants and my
Speaker 5: grandma seeing me growing up one have my g's biggest ship.
Speaker 4: I'm looking like I'm imitating, like, yo, what the hell
Speaker 4: row was you?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 4: Pansay like you like you imitating street like.
Speaker 5: Yes, brandching a gun is in theory different, but it's
Speaker 5: rooted the reason why.
Speaker 1: But it's really not even different. It's it's the same energy.
Speaker 1: And I and the reason I'm saying this I was
Speaker 1: telling Charlotte Magne and Van Layton is right. We we
Speaker 1: we were texting and I'm like, something don't feel right,
Speaker 1: and you know what it is? This is Alan Iverson,
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at where we are as a culture, right,
Speaker 1: as a society black folks, not as a culture as
Speaker 1: a society. Right, how we do it? Like we our
Speaker 1: generation stood behind Alan Iverson? Right, We was like, man,
Speaker 1: how y'all gonna tell the motherfucker to do this? Even
Speaker 1: though we know his look was very much the look
Speaker 1: of what we would call street urban, you know, gangster
Speaker 1: street shit.
Speaker 5: There's a reason but continue, though there's also there's also
Speaker 5: another reason why we all still bew but sure.
Speaker 1: And then Jah right, who's probably legally brandishing weapons. These
Speaker 1: are probably guns registered in his fucking name, which is
Speaker 1: even low Ki Lange, forgive me, John, I'm sorry you're
Speaker 1: not suppoleed to ride around show your actual guns, because.
Speaker 3: Not even that if the gun, I don't believe the
Speaker 3: last gun he had, which is in saying that we
Speaker 3: have to have, whether we have that, we have multiple instances.
Speaker 3: I don't believe the gun he had in Denver was
Speaker 3: his gun, because if it was his gun, he couldn't
Speaker 3: take it on the team playing, Otherwise he would have
Speaker 3: been suspended for them.
Speaker 1: But that's why you have your boy bring your gun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you holy breed. That don't mean it.
Speaker 1: I believe all of these firearms he is really his.
Speaker 1: He's the kind of guy that for sure went to
Speaker 1: the gun strow when he got his record contract and
Speaker 1: bought that ship and bought guns.
Speaker 4: He probably has an arsenal in his house.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, like I didn't go to war.
Speaker 3: I need that iron iron baby.
Speaker 2: Crazy though, you want something crazy though?
Speaker 3: He not even not even putting this on, not literal,
Speaker 3: but he probably bought that gun, being like mephis and
Speaker 3: inspect I guarantee you, after Young Dolph got murdered, he
Speaker 3: probably would have bought way more guns.
Speaker 4: He just bought way more guns.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no no. We're not
Speaker 3: talking about the beginning. I'm saying when Young Dolph got murdered,
Speaker 3: him in his mind is like they gonna be out
Speaker 3: to get me too. No, you goofy motherfucker, Go play basketball,
Speaker 3: Young Dolph. Than this what probably one of the biggest
Speaker 3: street guys in Memphis history turns and just like, come on,
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know that multiple times. I
Speaker 3: remember wh they shot him in Hollywood. I was driving
Speaker 3: here Hollywood and I'm like, why is all this police here?
Speaker 3: So it's like, I just don't go ahead. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: but I just I'm that's that seems like the kind
Speaker 3: of person he is.
Speaker 2: Like the others saw another celebrity get murdered, let me
Speaker 2: go get these.
Speaker 1: I actually agree with that, Tim, I actually agree with
Speaker 1: that thought because TV I agree with that fucking thought.
Speaker 1: But again, I'm standing right here because it's important. He's
Speaker 1: not doing anything.
Speaker 4: No, he's not.
Speaker 1: The company just told you don't wear green shirts. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about why we telling you not to wear green shirts.
Speaker 1: Maybe you will not figure out why we're telling you
Speaker 1: not to wear green shirts. Don't fucking wear green shirts.
Speaker 1: He didn't break any fucking rules. He's not on team
Speaker 1: playing team property. You just nigga wearing a green shirt,
Speaker 1: and we told you the way people feel about green shirts.
Speaker 1: Even though niggas, don't take me to give a fuck
Speaker 1: about green shirts, because now you don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: about green shirts. Nobody give a fuck by green shirts,
Speaker 1: but the thought of green shirts makes people feel this way.
Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna say to you is you're right
Speaker 1: in a sense that something's wrong with Cuz. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean that like like I'm not writing I know
Speaker 1: everybody own Cuz. I'm not right. I'm saying because is
Speaker 1: on p or a drunk No, yes, is not correct.
Speaker 2: He's probably drunk.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think I think okay.
Speaker 2: In his but what wait, wait, wait a minute, what
Speaker 2: we're gonna blame it on the liquor?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and this is and look and wait and
Speaker 5: wait and wait and wait and wait.
Speaker 4: Wait. Also, here's why.
Speaker 5: Remember that video from All Star Weekend a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago when he was on the team, playing with
Speaker 5: his daddy, drinking Costa Migos, dancing around.
Speaker 4: Remember the other video in which they said then they said.
Speaker 5: Somethingbout costs and he at the post game took a
Speaker 5: shot at Costa Migos. Even in the video he was
Speaker 5: at the strip club, allegedly he didn't consume alcohol.
Speaker 4: He looked kind of cooked.
Speaker 5: I think he probably is somebody who might be drinking
Speaker 5: a little bit too much and is making these decisions
Speaker 5: like not in his right mind.
Speaker 1: Because they're like lapses, Like he's already an edgy kind
Speaker 1: of guy. He's already on the edge. He's already on
Speaker 1: the edge, right, and then he just crosses the line. Now,
Speaker 1: me and you Tom can argue about the line a
Speaker 1: thousand times. You know how I feel about the fucking line.
Speaker 2: And in their question, what if he just doesn't believe
Speaker 2: that there's a.
Speaker 1: Line, Nigga, they already showed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he gotta know us a line.
Speaker 1: He already showed him the line, dude.
Speaker 2: Either y'all got little brothers, real question?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my little crazy.
Speaker 3: I got three of them, and all three of them
Speaker 3: low key kind of crazy. And we grew up with
Speaker 3: a mother that's a teacher. Like our family was street
Speaker 3: niggas and all the other shit, but we didn't grow
Speaker 3: up in that environment. Our neighborhood was the hood, but
Speaker 3: we wasn't in the streets like that. We was in
Speaker 3: the streets playing ball and doing shit.
Speaker 1: If you went outside, you were in the streets.
Speaker 3: No, but yes, but you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 3: like my cousins were actively street niggas in the street
Speaker 3: doing street things. We were just yes, we were just
Speaker 3: being kids when we was kids. But once they all
Speaker 3: kind of hit eighteen, they all just like went fucking crazy,
Speaker 3: and me and my mother just like, yo, I don't
Speaker 3: and they know what the lines are. They just don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck. So maybe he just don't give a fuck,
Speaker 3: because if you're him, what do I have.
Speaker 4: To lose nigga everything? No, he does it, that's a lie.
Speaker 2: He's probably already made thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3: He's probably at least probably made sixty million dollars if
Speaker 3: we being honest of cash money already. His contract is
Speaker 3: guaranteed unless they void his contract. He's gonna be able
Speaker 3: to go anywhere in the world and play basketball for
Speaker 3: large sums of money. He has nothing to lose as
Speaker 3: long as he doesn't physically harm anyone or rape a woman.
Speaker 2: He ain't got shit to lose or say anything negative.
Speaker 3: About you know who, because we know what happens when
Speaker 3: you say bad shit about those people.
Speaker 2: And actually there's multiple groups of those people.
Speaker 4: So you think he can't lose sixty million, especially.
Speaker 2: Like you know mean lou, how do you define lose
Speaker 2: spend it all?
Speaker 1: He never had it. No him spending.
Speaker 3: Sixty million dollars and losing sixty million dollars are a
Speaker 3: completely different thing. Kanye West didn't spend a billion dollars
Speaker 3: in a day. They took the ship from him, he
Speaker 3: still had four hundred million dollars left over.
Speaker 1: They didn't take anything from Kanye.
Speaker 3: Allegedly, no, no, no no, Allegedly his net worth dropped
Speaker 3: a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: That's that's not I.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no no no. But this
Speaker 3: is my point. I'm speaking to what you're about to say, glasses.
Speaker 3: His liquid money has nothing to do with what he's worth.
Speaker 3: What he's worth is going to be what his potential assets,
Speaker 3: contracts and all of that shit can be. He's actually
Speaker 3: worth a billion fucking dollars if we're being honest, Because
Speaker 3: if his shoes sell and he make like the average
Speaker 3: NBA player on a max contract or a super max
Speaker 3: is going to make a half a billion dollars over
Speaker 3: a ten year period, and if they get another one,
Speaker 3: they'll make another two hundred million. So he has the
Speaker 3: potential as a basketball player to generate seven hundred dollars
Speaker 3: on the basketball court.
Speaker 2: If he got his own shoe and Powerway commercials, he
Speaker 2: could run his network up limitlessly. Pass a billion dollars,
Speaker 2: So he's really actually worth a billion dollars.
Speaker 3: Especially because he's the real healthy individual. But what I'm
Speaker 3: saying is he might have actually made sixty million dollars.
Speaker 3: So even if they say, like, oh, you suspended half
Speaker 3: the season, I still get eighteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, this is one of those situations where
Speaker 1: they should get fun They.
Speaker 3: Navigated that nigga money because he don't give a fuck
Speaker 3: and he think he is street nigga and he see
Speaker 3: these rappers, and the funny part about it is he
Speaker 3: don't even want to This is the funny part and
Speaker 3: why I think Jaws a fool because you're not even
Speaker 3: taking the same level of accountability and risk as the
Speaker 3: rappers that you're in, the thugs that you're mimicking and
Speaker 3: trying to act like you.
Speaker 2: Are young young boy, young NBA young boy. And then
Speaker 2: been in jail.
Speaker 3: How many times he only twenty three to been in
Speaker 3: jail like four five times? He in jailed the fans
Speaker 3: that tried to indict him. He got numerous crimes accused
Speaker 3: against him. What fucking crimes does John Mouran have a
Speaker 3: cues against him? So why is it that you feel
Speaker 3: that with all of this money in this position that
Speaker 3: you're in. Because I don't care what he says. He
Speaker 3: made itself a targer, he has made itself a tar.
Speaker 3: I'm a street nigga and Memphis. If I'm a street
Speaker 3: nigga and Memphis, he bet he better not have his
Speaker 3: jewelry on.
Speaker 2: Because if he do, he better have that motherfucking lit
Speaker 2: last gun. He'd be brash.
Speaker 3: I gotta if he if he got if he walk
Speaker 3: around with them chains on, you better have that little
Speaker 3: last pistol you got on you because I'm gonna try
Speaker 3: you now versus if you was just the nice guy
Speaker 3: on the team, like I guarantee you.
Speaker 2: People see Tiers Joneson like, oh that's the what up? Ties?
Speaker 2: How you doing? Man?
Speaker 3: I like t he a nice guy. He's probably the
Speaker 3: hardest strict to see him be like that. I like
Speaker 3: him here a nice guy and he who you think
Speaker 3: they think that ship about John Morant now or they think,
Speaker 3: oh this nigga think he hard. So when I see him,
Speaker 3: he think he me. We're gonna have to see who
Speaker 3: gainst it, who really.
Speaker 4: Gainst That's also the starts difference between him and AI
Speaker 4: like he is.
Speaker 2: I disagree with that. I disagree with that.
Speaker 1: I did too many just didn't have social media exactly.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, no no no, even look
Speaker 5: at a beginners obviously the jail case. You went to
Speaker 5: jail for the fight, Like it's been like he's been
Speaker 5: a troubled youth. We've heard of AI being a quote
Speaker 5: unquote trouble youth since the first time you ever heard
Speaker 5: of AI. We ain't really heard these stories about John
Speaker 5: Morant until like last summer. Like AI just for a
Speaker 5: little bit more authentic than John mort does. It's like
Speaker 5: John ren is like, get daddy in your life.
Speaker 1: Now you're right there.
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean yeah, like you could say, like
Speaker 5: you know he doing whatever, but they like he is there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he is there.
Speaker 5: Your mama there, AI, Shit fucking your mama was on
Speaker 5: well fed.
Speaker 4: You don't know your dad, daddy, you'd have been to jail.
Speaker 4: The fact you even you.
Speaker 1: Got all all them stereotype.
Speaker 5: Fit yeah, like yeah, you like like your mom had
Speaker 5: to go beg John Thompson to take you in college.
Speaker 5: Like everything fit with AI. So everything he did seem
Speaker 5: like very very authentic. So whatever AI is, like, bro,
Speaker 5: it's a miracle. You even made it this fart we.
Speaker 2: Ride with you.
Speaker 4: John is like, what the fuck are you doing it? Bro,
Speaker 4: we didn't like Rookie year, you wouldn't know this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but John's not getting in trouble like Van.
Speaker 3: It's a difference between doing something that is illegal, something
Speaker 3: that's against the constitution, and something that as We've had
Speaker 3: this conversation before, whether or not he likes it, and
Speaker 3: I've even heard athletes say this on TV since jobing
Speaker 3: acting the food, whether or not I liked it the
Speaker 3: moment I put on that uniform and they put me
Speaker 3: on them billboards. I was a role model of children,
Speaker 3: and the kids mimic what I do. It's one second, kids,
Speaker 3: hold on one second. You go give me fifteen more seconds.
Speaker 3: It's not about the fact that he has guns. If
Speaker 3: Job was at a shooting range, or if job was
Speaker 3: in his backyard with the setup like Boosy got in
Speaker 3: his backyard, he got on tires and fake to shoot
Speaker 3: his guns in the backyard.
Speaker 2: Fun you are in a strip club with a pistol.
Speaker 3: You are riding around the city of Memphis in a
Speaker 3: car with some thug niggas. One of the niggas got
Speaker 3: accused of pointing a fucking lazer at the Indiana Pacers
Speaker 3: bus and you're riding around properly intoxicated in a car
Speaker 3: with your friends with guns. Gee, that is fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: And who the fuck wants that person to be a
Speaker 3: role model for their children unless they think this motherfucker
Speaker 3: is a rapper. He is not a fucking rapper. He
Speaker 3: is not a fucking thum geez Like. At a certain point,
Speaker 3: it's gonna catch up to him. And when it does,
Speaker 3: I want my apology again from you because I told
Speaker 3: you the first time we talked, and you called me
Speaker 3: a fucking uncle Tom and told me I was taking
Speaker 3: the white people's side.
Speaker 1: You are still. But this is the point I'm not.
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is if they give you rules, abide
Speaker 3: by them, and if you don't, don't be mad when
Speaker 3: you get slapped on the head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this ship we But what about when they
Speaker 1: gave Ai the same rules?
Speaker 4: He kind of abided a bout.
Speaker 1: The rules though, No, he broke rules.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hollow limit to this when they when they when
Speaker 5: they put the dress code in every time AI showed
Speaker 5: up and he wasn't playing.
Speaker 4: He had a sport code on it.
Speaker 1: Two years though we were talking about the rule. But
Speaker 1: we on this span of fifteen months right now.
Speaker 3: But glass already been a rule though there is no
Speaker 3: rules there.
Speaker 2: That's a lie, my nigga.
Speaker 3: No, there is a rule in the in they rule
Speaker 3: book that say they can't have guns and ship with
Speaker 3: them while they're out of traveling with the team.
Speaker 2: Because I'm stacking them. Got in a shoot out of Indiana.
Speaker 1: Listen, he's not with the team now.
Speaker 2: But we weren't a car like he looked. Yes, he was.
Speaker 2: They was on a road trip. He flew in there
Speaker 2: the team.
Speaker 1: Hold up, listen, he wasn't with the team, Finn.
Speaker 2: That's a lie.
Speaker 1: He was not Strip club in Denver.
Speaker 5: That's why he didn't suspended, Because why he didn't Patty,
Speaker 5: we take an H and B sponsored trip.
Speaker 3: We bring one of the little homies with us. This
Speaker 3: motherfucker got a tool on the trip and we don't know. No, no, stop,
Speaker 3: stop stopping. Because John didn't pay for his flight. He
Speaker 3: got a fucking per gem like everybody else know, it's
Speaker 3: not he's traveling with the team.
Speaker 1: Let me frame it.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, let me come on now you're finished. Start,
Speaker 3: Let me why the nigga keep doing because he don't
Speaker 3: see no lines. Because niggas is still Nobody said that
Speaker 3: you can't own a just use it responsible.
Speaker 1: The reason the reason he keeps doing it is because
Speaker 1: he's a drunk I think, or he's on pills.
Speaker 4: See, I think he's cooking.
Speaker 1: This is something different. The point I'm saying to you
Speaker 1: is this is like hoops and bruise. Right, y'all go
Speaker 1: cover the Sacramento Kings game. Right they fly, y'all, They say,
Speaker 1: you come cover the Sacramento Kings game, and y'all bring
Speaker 1: glasses there and glasses with y'all we cover the game success.
Speaker 1: After the game, I go to the Strip club.
Speaker 3: And I grab your pistol and start waving it in
Speaker 3: the year like some money. And the Sacramento Kings see
Speaker 3: that ship. They gonna be like, Yo, what the fuck
Speaker 3: are you doing? We got you covering our team and
Speaker 3: you outside in the Strip club after the game waving pistols. Well,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm gonna say, sorry, like and then
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, all right.
Speaker 2: We'll see y'all niggas in the next lifetime.
Speaker 1: Okay, I am not, so just listen. I am not
Speaker 1: because I.
Speaker 2: Can't even say, Yo, this glass is gun.
Speaker 3: It's not my gun, it's glasses gun like like this
Speaker 3: Nigga time.
Speaker 4: Ship did do that.
Speaker 1: Listen. But if I go take a picture with a
Speaker 1: politician holding an a R again, I'm just asking, I
Speaker 1: am I am agreeing with you. I have literally openly
Speaker 1: said starting is like, damn man, this dude is not listening.
Speaker 1: I really think something is wrong with him. But now
Speaker 1: what I'm asking is is it really the same thing
Speaker 1: as a I Is it the fear of what he represents?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Because he does what he like?
Speaker 1: What is he street or because people? I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's a street Listen, I am not saying glasses.
Speaker 5: I just think Ja Moan is doing some tom fool
Speaker 5: ship and a Ya was being himself.
Speaker 1: Listen, but what if Jiz counvinced himself that he's this person?
Speaker 4: That's insane.
Speaker 1: I watched people, grown people convince themselves that they are
Speaker 1: a woman. Grown men, They'll be like, man, I'm a woman.
Speaker 1: I have been a woman my whole Bruce Jenner was
Speaker 1: Olympian gold medalist and woke up. It was like, well
Speaker 1: I always knew I was a woman and just became
Speaker 1: one and we told that we and we literally have
Speaker 1: set up a society to where right now we look
Speaker 1: at Bruce. We look at Bruce like Caitlyn. It's offensive
Speaker 1: if you call him Bruce.
Speaker 2: I call him whatever you want to.
Speaker 3: You know what, he is a murderer who won a
Speaker 3: Woman of the Year when she committed manslaughter, vehicular manslaughter.
Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty insane.
Speaker 1: I'm saying either or I'm saying of the year. Is
Speaker 1: a trans thug?
Speaker 3: Look like he started off, goddamn trans thug man.
Speaker 2: He is not to be fifty cent. Got a song
Speaker 2: for it. It's called a wangster.
Speaker 1: He can't be a wangster.
Speaker 2: What is he popped?
Speaker 1: Well, if he didn a y'all say, beat somebody up
Speaker 1: and put little kid. He only twenty.
Speaker 3: G And I was just in McDonald's before I came
Speaker 3: to do your show. A bunch of high school kids
Speaker 3: walked in there, and I looked at all of them, like, damn,
Speaker 3: high school kids really are like they like small individuals,
Speaker 3: like like you just kind of like.
Speaker 4: Not all of them, man of the niggas bigg as.
Speaker 3: Hell, it ain't making you tough because you out here
Speaker 3: punching on teenagers and flashing guns on the internet.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna jump off back.
Speaker 3: I would just say this, if y'all wants me to
Speaker 3: really believe him, I want you to do a real crime.
Speaker 2: Be for real, Just do a real crime.
Speaker 1: He gotta just throw it, don't don't cut.
Speaker 2: The balls, grab the whole thing, and fucking do a
Speaker 2: real crime. That's how you feel doing a crime. Now,
Speaker 2: I know I didn't say that.
Speaker 3: I said if he wants to beat a fake street
Speaker 3: guy and a faked thup, just be one.
Speaker 2: Do a real crime. You might as well.
Speaker 3: You're inviting the same energy.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe he's like a thug that follows the laws.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they make glass glass. That's like you're
Speaker 3: telling me that motherfucker saying that they real. Dad's mean
Speaker 3: that they real niggas. Them two things don't add up
Speaker 3: to each other.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe he's like a like remember when you was
Speaker 1: arguing with me, was having this conversation about street etiquettes
Speaker 1: and words that we use. Like he's like a real nigga,
Speaker 1: where like he just does what he say he's gonna do,
Speaker 1: like that type of real nigga. Maybe he's that kind
Speaker 1: of real nigga. Like I don't agree with that like,
Speaker 1: I don't think if you have six surgery like real
Speaker 1: nigga shit, I have six surgeries today. That's not what
Speaker 1: I would think. But maybe y'all feel like like if
Speaker 1: Tom ran up on my car, feel me, then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give him these rounds. Real nigga shit, I got
Speaker 1: the pistol on me. Niggas playing nigga. You see me
Speaker 1: out here, nigga, I'm having it, but I got this
Speaker 1: pistol on me, real nigga shit.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this. The difference between me and you
Speaker 3: as human beings are. You have made it very apparent
Speaker 3: via marketing, via your voice, via your podcast that you
Speaker 3: are a crypt and you gang bang. So when I
Speaker 3: see you, I am go into any environment with you.
Speaker 3: I got my head on a swivel. Niggas don't see
Speaker 3: me and be like yo, when I'm with TP, I
Speaker 3: gotta have my head on the swift because they know
Speaker 3: I ain't no fucking gang bang or no cryp, and
Speaker 3: it ain't no disrespectful.
Speaker 2: It just ain't me.
Speaker 3: So if job want to create this false perception of
Speaker 3: he's sitting somewhere in the middle, go ahead, have fun
Speaker 3: with it, but it never works out.
Speaker 2: It never fucking works out. It never works out.
Speaker 3: You can you can go ahead and be half and
Speaker 3: half if you want to, until your rich, privileged ass
Speaker 3: get robbed or somebody popped your ass and then you
Speaker 3: can't play basketball.
Speaker 2: Then we're gonna have another conversation. But I don't want to.
Speaker 3: But like this entire job morant conversation is just like
Speaker 3: bro at the end the day, who do you want
Speaker 3: to be? You get the opportunity to decide in this
Speaker 3: world who you want to be. You are not privileged,
Speaker 3: because I don't believe that just because you got athletic
Speaker 3: ability you privileged. It's just like being, you know, saying
Speaker 3: somebody be like, oh, he's smart, so he's privileged. No,
Speaker 3: you do a lot of bad shit with a smart brain.
Speaker 3: So he worked as hard like you work this hard.
Speaker 3: You work this hard to throw it away, not even
Speaker 3: just because you have guns or you want to have
Speaker 3: thoes or you want people to know you have guns.
Speaker 3: You want to throw it away because you're irresponsibly showing
Speaker 3: the whole world that you don't know how to use
Speaker 3: a gun. If Joab was in his backyard with the
Speaker 3: sniper rifles set up in the tires and and fucking
Speaker 3: headphones on like they use at the gun range. Peop
Speaker 3: would just be like, damn, j'all was shooting guns on Instagram.
Speaker 3: He could just be like, Yeah, I do that for
Speaker 3: fun because I like guns. If you know, you know, recreationally,
Speaker 3: that's my thing. That's the second that's his second Amendment right.
Speaker 3: He had every right to do that. But it's a
Speaker 3: completely different thing than you riding around in the city
Speaker 3: with your homies with a pistol in your lap while
Speaker 3: your homeo ig laugh, taking the gun and putting it.
Speaker 2: Out on your head.
Speaker 4: It would be okay with him doing that either.
Speaker 2: By the way, I disagree with that. That's a lie.
Speaker 3: Chris, that's a lie. That's a lie. Chris Caman had guns.
Speaker 3: He had big ass guns. Photo, it's photos of Chris
Speaker 3: came in with his big ass guns.
Speaker 2: So we're not and.
Speaker 1: This is a problem.
Speaker 2: Don't stop. This is what I'm saying. It's photos of
Speaker 2: him with his guns.
Speaker 3: He looked like he in his fucking house, not in
Speaker 3: the car with his homies riding around with.
Speaker 2: A k's Like, are we serious, bro? Like this is
Speaker 2: not at least not excusable or.
Speaker 1: So if we have an issue with guns, Like, like,
Speaker 1: is it That's what I'm saying? Is it okay? Because
Speaker 1: your issue is not about man is a tool? That tool?
Speaker 1: I like it's Mike, let me make my point. Are
Speaker 1: we okay with white people having guns the way white
Speaker 1: people carry guns? Or are we fearful at the way
Speaker 1: black people or people that come from where we come
Speaker 1: from carry guns.
Speaker 4: That's a conversation.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm listen. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I saw the pictures of Chris came in with his guns.
Speaker 1: Chris Cramon looked like he will be at the top
Speaker 1: of a casino and kill one hundred and seventy six people.
Speaker 5: I'll look at these pictures too, all like, I don't
Speaker 5: like he posted when he was in the lead.
Speaker 4: We should about this, Yes, just.
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Why it is? What you mean?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Put the link in the chat so I can pull
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 1: Gee.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's anything.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's anything wrong with any NBA player
Speaker 3: owning guns, showing the fact that they have guns, if
Speaker 3: they are being responsible gun owners.
Speaker 2: But it's not. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: How is he being irresponsible because he's bragging about his weapon?
Speaker 1: Is that irresponsible.
Speaker 2: He's not bragging about his weapon.
Speaker 3: He's riding around putting the gun up to his head
Speaker 3: like this, in the car with his Hobie.
Speaker 1: Driving, He's showing his gun like if you run, man,
Speaker 1: I put.
Speaker 2: The gun up to his head like this and did this.
Speaker 2: You doing that with your gun?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I don't listen. I've had gun since
Speaker 1: I was thirteen. I never took a kid with his
Speaker 1: gun on my life. I don't even show my guns.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to know I have the gun.
Speaker 4: I don't. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: Also, my my point is this, like granted, like again,
Speaker 5: like I said, let's.
Speaker 1: Say like.
Speaker 3: One last point about this. Chris came in thing. I
Speaker 3: seen him with hunting rifles, and I see him in
Speaker 3: a gun shot. He ain't riding around in the car
Speaker 3: with his friends on the fence.
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 4: hold on hold.
Speaker 5: Like all right, So let's say I'm on Instagram with
Speaker 5: the homies, right, and I don't know I got my
Speaker 5: guns in like a fucking case behind me or some
Speaker 5: ship as in like on the wall or some ship.
Speaker 4: You see my guns?
Speaker 1: Okay? Cool?
Speaker 5: Fine, I don't think It's okay for this motherfucking be
Speaker 5: posing with goddamn two fucking big ass log fucking long
Speaker 5: ass rifles on his shest while you in the league.
Speaker 4: That ain't release someone with the league represented neither.
Speaker 2: He was in a gun store.
Speaker 3: If you even click through most of these images, you
Speaker 3: see him outside on a gun range.
Speaker 2: He's being a fucking responsible gun owner.
Speaker 3: He's not just riding around in the car with his
Speaker 3: homies showing the gun on IG Live. What are we
Speaker 3: talking about, like, no, no, no difference between a legal
Speaker 3: gun and a responsible gun owner and one that showing
Speaker 3: it on I G Lab while dancing to NBA Legal.
Speaker 3: I want this an issue where he was in the NBA, don't.
Speaker 3: I want an issue where he was in the NBA
Speaker 3: because he was a responsible gun owner.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm telling you. This is the point Pavey
Speaker 1: is about to make. Go ahead, Pavy, I don't think
Speaker 1: neither one is.
Speaker 5: Oh fucking k one of them also is, because hold on, wait,
Speaker 5: let's hold on way, that's not to be real.
Speaker 4: Were talking Job Moran and Chris Kban number one. If
Speaker 4: this was fucking I don't know. Steve Nash at the
Speaker 4: height of the m v P Prime with fucking two guns
Speaker 4: on them, we may have had a different discussion.
Speaker 3: See, this is why I feel like you live in
Speaker 3: a silo. This is why I feel like you live
Speaker 3: in a silo. I don't think you live in a
Speaker 3: silo because I'm not trying to take people guns from
Speaker 3: them or telling they.
Speaker 2: Responsibly.
Speaker 3: What did I but if you but by the stance
Speaker 3: he's taking as the NBA, you're telling your players they
Speaker 3: can't have guns if they're.
Speaker 2: Responsible with them, be a.
Speaker 3: Fucking gun shot buying rifles, honnysols good as.
Speaker 4: You want to. Why are you taking picture with them,
Speaker 4: showing them off like that?
Speaker 2: Honestly because I look so so? What I so so?
Speaker 3: Now you're telling them, oh, I can't legally buy firearms
Speaker 3: or be seen with legal firearms, you know, in an
Speaker 3: environment in which you're supposed to have legal fires.
Speaker 1: What we're saying to John marit right now?
Speaker 2: Man, get the no, that's not what we're saying. That's
Speaker 2: not what we're saying.
Speaker 1: Yes, all all right, that's not what we're saying with
Speaker 1: We don't want to know what we're saying with John Moran.
Speaker 3: Now, what we're staying with John Moran, the difference is
Speaker 3: one is at a gun range and at a gun
Speaker 3: store and the other one is on Instagram, in the
Speaker 3: strip club, flashing it and riding around the city of
Speaker 3: Memphis in a car in a passenger seat.
Speaker 4: But if it flashing it, hold on way. If it's
Speaker 4: a legal carry state.
Speaker 5: Because again we're saying it is because Chris Came isn't
Speaker 5: breaking the law doing what he's doing.
Speaker 4: If it's a legal carry state.
Speaker 1: Neither is John Moran.
Speaker 3: So my question, so you don't deem John Moran's activity
Speaker 3: to be irresponsible in the way he's been brandishing and
Speaker 3: showing off his guns to be irresponsible.
Speaker 1: I just don't do it.
Speaker 2: No, I asked you a question. It's yes or no.
Speaker 2: I you believe that. No. I asked you both a
Speaker 2: yes or no question.
Speaker 4: No, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's wrong for him. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you why if you're in another First off, I've had
Speaker 1: guns in other states, in other strip clubs, so I
Speaker 1: can't say that now. I've never I don't drink, so
Speaker 1: I've never turned up, and I don't listen to that
Speaker 1: type of music that he listening to like to where
Speaker 1: I get that super energy. I need to show you
Speaker 1: I come from. Listen, Dray and Snoop when I was
Speaker 1: younger had guns in the video. If you look at
Speaker 1: number the g thing fucko dre A, they had guns. Again.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's about Tee. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: about I think it's about what he represents to them,
Speaker 1: which is why I keep saying it's the same thing
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson represented. Listen. Neither one is breaking the rules.
Speaker 1: He ain't broke no rules. He ain't been in no
Speaker 1: arena with no guns. They ain't call him in no
Speaker 1: arena with no guns. He been on no planes with
Speaker 1: no guns. The guns are legally his because if they wasn't,
Speaker 1: he'd be in jail for sure, they'd got his ass. Right,
Speaker 1: all of these things would be happening if he broke
Speaker 1: the law. All we're saying is you could be having
Speaker 1: guns and listen to country music like Chris Caman. You
Speaker 1: got have these crazy real killer rifles that everybody right
Speaker 1: now is using the murder thirty seven people, fifty six seven,
Speaker 1: eighty people. But you can't have this rifle at a
Speaker 1: strip club where your life could be threatened at because
Speaker 1: you are a wealthy person going to this strip club
Speaker 1: where other people be. We're saying you can't ride around
Speaker 1: mephis one of the most dangerous places in the country
Speaker 1: right now. Worth, you know that just your check, your
Speaker 1: last check just cleared, you probably got thirty four million
Speaker 1: for the year with a gun. And if you show
Speaker 1: people you got a gun, it's irresponsible. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: Back to the I digress difference.
Speaker 1: Also, it was like years ago, it was like.
Speaker 3: Even when Draymond was shooting guns with the Israeli Army.
Speaker 1: Let me, let me make my point.
Speaker 2: I didn't see a big story about dreams.
Speaker 1: He didn't look like a nigga holding them.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, there Israeli police. He didn't look like actually
Speaker 3: you know, actually, you know what. Technically he did get flat.
Speaker 3: This article says that he gets flat, that he is
Speaker 3: under no no, It says he's under criticism by American
Speaker 3: left wing activists. I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 3: to hear all of this liberal conservative bullshit. I believe
Speaker 3: in the Constitution to you have the ability to have
Speaker 3: your guns, and therefore, you know.
Speaker 1: What might have anything bad to say. This is a job.
Speaker 2: Listen, it's not about laws. I said.
Speaker 1: The only thing it could be if you are, if
Speaker 1: you are a constitutionist like yourself. The only thing it
Speaker 1: could be his laws. It can't be how I do
Speaker 1: my thing within the law.
Speaker 3: It's not about within the law. It's about It's not
Speaker 3: that I say he needs to go to jail. Have
Speaker 3: you ever heard me say tell you? Why would you
Speaker 3: ever heard me say he need to get a ticket?
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard me say he needed to be indicted?
Speaker 3: You heard me say anything involved in law enforcement? Or
Speaker 3: have you heard me say that he is on a
Speaker 3: path to crashing out and he keeps doing stupid ship
Speaker 3: with guns and eventually.
Speaker 2: Not gonna end rite.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
Speaker 3: You only heard me say the ladder. You didn't hear
Speaker 3: me say none of the other ship. And even before
Speaker 3: when I said it, I said they need to suspend
Speaker 3: him to show him that like we understand, But there's
Speaker 3: another way you can go about doing this. But it's
Speaker 3: for eight games.
Speaker 1: And he wanted let me ask you a question again.
Speaker 1: Let's I digress. My original point is if your job
Speaker 1: that pays you thirty six million dollars a year, you're
Speaker 1: not to wear a green shirt. Just don't wear green shirts.
Speaker 1: So I do think he's on drugs or drunk, something's
Speaker 1: wrong because why'd you wear his green shirt? But again,
Speaker 1: somebody like you right at the same time, if he's
Speaker 1: not breaking the law, if he just looking like a
Speaker 1: nigga with a gun, there is it. We don't want
Speaker 1: nigga activity.
Speaker 2: Hold on without activity.
Speaker 3: Can I say what about the energy and the things
Speaker 3: that way marketing? Because actually what he's doing right now,
Speaker 3: it's a arrible fucking market.
Speaker 4: And I say, okay, okay, and it's not good.
Speaker 1: It's not the right wingers back in the basketball.
Speaker 3: Can I say, wait, but that's also I don't have
Speaker 3: a problem with with him having a gun, but why
Speaker 3: do I need to see it on Instagram while you
Speaker 3: raning around here?
Speaker 4: I say one thing.
Speaker 5: Granted, these Chris came in videos and move I don't
Speaker 5: know how old they are. I have no idea how oh, y'all,
Speaker 5: he's been retired for a very long time. But let's
Speaker 5: just say he posted this.
Speaker 4: Ship in twenty twenty three, and he was Chris.
Speaker 5: Came in and light out all these fucking school shoes
Speaker 5: and ship that people doing. If you a fucking white
Speaker 5: man posting big ass rifles, I'm a thing.
Speaker 2: I'm like shoot up one day? Is you the n
Speaker 2: b A and you have an issue with that too?
Speaker 3: Or you have the issue with Chris came and you
Speaker 3: know what you're gonna do? All them fucking people in
Speaker 3: the South that love they gone. I'm sorry, So are
Speaker 3: they guns and the gun have them?
Speaker 4: We never we never said you couldn't have them?
Speaker 2: Okay, if it's responsible, we hold on?
Speaker 5: Wait, hold wait, who am I to judged the level
Speaker 5: of responsibility, especially when we see it got them mass
Speaker 5: shoot every a week. All I'm saying is this, you
Speaker 5: can have all the guns you want to have, but
Speaker 5: why do we.
Speaker 1: Need to know you.
Speaker 2: That's a stereotype. That's a stereotype.
Speaker 3: That's like somebody saying because you's black, you will walk
Speaker 3: around with a fucking gun.
Speaker 2: It's a fucking stereotype. Let's sit out of here. I
Speaker 2: don't like that. That's a stereotype. That's a fucking stereotype.
Speaker 3: You ain't never heard ship about Chris came in Brandon
Speaker 3: or hurt anybody with.
Speaker 2: His fucking gun.
Speaker 4: Never heard nothing about Joamraan hurt. Nobody was guns either? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah about yeah, how oldest Chris came?
Speaker 2: How is joa Moran John Moran twenty three. Chris came.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's be honest. Chris came in is more
Speaker 1: likely to kill more people than Ja Moran.
Speaker 2: Uh just yeah, jo No, No, you wanted something funny.
Speaker 4: JOA.
Speaker 2: Moran is more likely to kill himself being dumb with
Speaker 2: a gun that Chris came in? Is this I got?
Speaker 2: I will I'm not even you not know? So that's
Speaker 2: my whole fucking point.
Speaker 3: One, just right, But but you can't. But you can't
Speaker 3: discern between what you see as a possible it's not
Speaker 3: a slippery fucking slow. You just told me you know
Speaker 3: what he was doing was irresponsible.
Speaker 4: Because because again responsibility.
Speaker 3: Flopping again, flip flopping, you flip flopping if you made
Speaker 3: is a responsible adope?
Speaker 1: Yeah no.
Speaker 4: But if I was Chris off either probably not.
Speaker 5: If I got an F sixteen, I'm probably not going
Speaker 5: online and showing that ship, so don't ask me.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be doing shit that neither one of them
Speaker 4: is doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never had to ask me. And again I'm
Speaker 1: I'm making this point. If your job that pays you
Speaker 1: thirty six million dollars a year tells you don't wear
Speaker 1: green shirt I'm not gonna wear a green shirt. If
Speaker 1: my job that passed me thirty six million dollars a
Speaker 1: year might tell me not to wear braids, I probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't wear braids. Have been consistent arguments from you know,
Speaker 1: our dish for about how we want to do our
Speaker 1: things versus how people feel like it represents what Tom
Speaker 1: is saying. The way he looks carrying and brandishing that firearm,
Speaker 1: he looks like his idea of a guy in the streets,
Speaker 1: even though guys in the streets don't do that. Some
Speaker 1: of my homies are some of the craziest people in
Speaker 1: the world. I ain't never seen him putting no gun
Speaker 1: on traffic and be just doing all that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's like TV or something. It's like something from television.
Speaker 1: I don't quite know where that comes from, because the
Speaker 1: gods where I'm from, that's really get active. And maybe
Speaker 1: these new guys are different. Maybe these new guys are different.
Speaker 1: That's what the street guys do now. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if he's doing it within the legal
Speaker 1: ramifications of the law and he's not breaking any written
Speaker 1: rules in the NBA, I can see if he brought
Speaker 1: on the plane. Let's be different conversations. I can see
Speaker 1: if he brought an arena, it's a different conversation. But
Speaker 1: you mad that he the reality is you mad because
Speaker 1: what you think he's doing is thugging. He's going to
Speaker 1: a strip club. Just listen.
Speaker 2: I don't care about I don't care about himself.
Speaker 1: Let me make my do.
Speaker 2: I need to see it.
Speaker 1: It don't don't matter if you see this.
Speaker 2: I've only seen you thugging in your music videos.
Speaker 1: But listen to the point. Listen to the point. That's
Speaker 1: what people say to suppress homosexual or trans people. Look,
Speaker 1: whatever you do in your bedroom is fine. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see it. That's the same ignorant approach. It's
Speaker 1: okay if I have one hundred guns and they're legal
Speaker 1: and I want to show them. Stop following me again.
Speaker 2: I'm with you time.
Speaker 1: Listen. I already agree with you. If my job that
Speaker 1: pay me thirty six million said don't wear a green shirt,
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing it. It don't even got to be
Speaker 1: a rule. If they advise me not to wear green shirts, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, the boss really don't like green. They
Speaker 1: give me thirty six million, Yeah, I ain't wearing No,
Speaker 1: they'll be pinching me on it. I'm not fucking around.
Speaker 4: But which is why he might be a drug.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying he's taking some kind of drugs
Speaker 1: that they're not testing for out with them guys. Or
Speaker 1: he drunk because he still know the rules. Why he
Speaker 1: don't got guns in the locker room. Why you don't
Speaker 1: got guns on the plane. He's having these weird moment lapses,
Speaker 1: these these these these weird moments where his like even
Speaker 1: he ain't even gone live this time, like he knew,
Speaker 1: let me not go live. His partner went on live
Speaker 1: and will turn the keemra, oh he got the gun out.
Speaker 1: I know why the young boys is pulling out the camera.
Speaker 3: I don't really believe that his partner was even trying
Speaker 3: to show him with the gun. No, I think it
Speaker 3: was a damn like damn is why you do that?
Speaker 3: But like I don't think his partner had the intention
Speaker 3: of like, oh no, yeah, probably yeah, I'm with yoah.
Speaker 2: But you don't think Jos fin a pull even if
Speaker 2: it's my gun.
Speaker 1: I know out the console, And I'm not feeling that
Speaker 1: people blaming the street dude.
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming him I'm not blaming his head.
Speaker 4: I'm that ship John, crazy ass. When to do that ship,
Speaker 4: that's on you.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm trying to tell y'all some wrong.
Speaker 4: With the boy.
Speaker 1: He on the dope.
Speaker 2: He owned that ship.
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