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Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. I'm Chris Bruce are he is Kelvin Washington,

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Speaker 1: and this is the Dan Patrick Show. We're obviously filling

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Speaker 1: in for Dan. We got two hours left. We hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed the show, and we got plenty to get to.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of football to talk on this Tuesday

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Speaker 1: after Black Monday and then like Monday, wasn't that bad?

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Speaker 1: Kelvin pos everything bad gotta be black? It don't it

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Speaker 1: don't Well I don't even read anything into that because

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Speaker 1: I ain't with that at all. I know Black Friday, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Robie said Black Friday. No, it's not your go broke.

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Speaker 1: See black you're gonna say that, No, it's not because

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Speaker 1: you go broke Black Friday. Least you're spending all your

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Speaker 1: it's it's a blimber or you can look see it's

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Speaker 1: how you look at it. It actually is. You're you're

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Speaker 1: spreading joy because you're buying gives to other people and

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Speaker 1: then you and then you go with black people spread joy. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'll take that. Fine. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: finding the silver lining. And by the way, happy New

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Speaker 1: Year's Eve to you brother. Yes, you as well. You

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Speaker 1: got big plans with the family tonight. Ye changing diapers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hear you and I on the total opposite extremes

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Speaker 1: of child rearing. Yeah. My girls are twenty one about

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Speaker 1: to graduate from college. Man, well, congratulations for that. And

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Speaker 1: then then then I just need to know how you

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Speaker 1: made it. I'm having days with my three year old.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it like, I mean, you might have

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Speaker 1: because I can't deal with this right now. Well, because

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Speaker 1: mine maybe coming right back after they graduate. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that comes back for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So but look,

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Speaker 1: let's uh interest. You know, this is, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: this New Year's Eve, and of course that means the

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Speaker 1: end not only this year. It's not only the end

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Speaker 1: and we're about to enter the twenty twenty. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: Roaring twenties. Yeah, yeah, we're about to have another Roaring twenties.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be part of it. So everyone is releasing

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Speaker 1: their All Century, All Decade teams, and uh, we talked

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Speaker 1: I know you have plenty more to say about the

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Speaker 1: NFL's top one hundred team All Century Team. But for

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Speaker 1: the NBA, ESPN released it's All Decade team, just a

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Speaker 1: starting five. And the interesting thing is this, Kelvin I

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Speaker 1: here it was at guards, Steph Curry and James Harden

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. I obviously have no issues with it, do you?

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Speaker 1: he is, right, Ad you could argue is more talented

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Speaker 1: the person who was omitted that everybody has beef with,

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Speaker 1: and that is Kawhi Leonard. Let's let's get straight to

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Speaker 1: it so most people don't jumping in there. Most people

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Speaker 1: this list and people are upset. They're saying he's been

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Speaker 1: Harden hadn't even been to the finals. But then I

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Speaker 1: he had been to the finals. He just was a

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Speaker 1: sixth man. Yeah, I mean that was a whole. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I I looked at the numbers and really, Kawhi

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Speaker 1: didn't become a dominant player until twenty the fifteen sixteen season, correct,

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Speaker 1: All right, Kelvin, this is your turn to talk. I

431
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: talked about the NFL's Top one hundred list from the QBS.

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Speaker 1: We got ten quarterbacks on the list. I've given my

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Speaker 1: views on it. I want to hear yours quickly. You

434
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Speaker 1: want me to run down the list again, and then

435
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Speaker 1: you can go ahead and do your thing. We got

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Speaker 1: in no particular order, Dan Marino, Brett Farve, Roger Starback,

437
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, John Elway, Sammy ba Otto, Graham, Johnny Unitus,

438
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and Joe Montana. Well, I'm a little offended

439
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: that you didn't want to talk about the place kickers

440
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: and punters and stuff you don't want to talk about

441
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: and you know all those guys. All right, No, let's

442
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: get to what people really care about his quarterbacks. You

443
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: said earlier that the incorrect me from you know, for

444
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Speaker 1: make sure I'm saying this correctly. That a couple of

445
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Speaker 1: guys that you were you Dan Marino was a little

446
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Speaker 1: shocking to you, right, No, no, no, no, not shocking.

447
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: What I here's what because Marino's mystical. I actually wasn't

448
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Speaker 1: shocked that he was on the list. But what I

449
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: would say is this, if I I think Aaron Rodgers

450
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: should have been on instead of Brett Farve, and I

451
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Speaker 1: you can certainly. I mean Marino had the better arm,

452
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: he was phenomenal, But Drew Brees is done more. He's

453
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: been more accomplished, both individually and team wise because he

454
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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, which Marino of course did not.

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Speaker 1: So I would put Breeze on above Dan Marino. All right,

456
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Speaker 1: So here's will be my two replacements. Right, So here's

457
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: the troubling part. The only one that you could really argue,

458
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Speaker 1: because we said, we both agree we're not going school. Guy,

459
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: Sammy Ball, do your thing, brother, I know the name.

460
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: You're a legend. And Johnny United is kind of he

461
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: was the v quarterback for some time. You know, Peyton

462
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: Manning modeled his game after him, so on and so forth.

463
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: So there's no replacing those guys. Brett Farve, to me,

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Speaker 1: is the only one that you can debate. It can

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Speaker 1: be replaced de Marino. You cannot, because he is the

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Speaker 1: guy when it comes to the air attack, when it

467
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Speaker 1: comes to you know, slinging that thing around, when it

468
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Speaker 1: comes to setting records, and when it comes to passing

469
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Speaker 1: yards and touchdowns, he is that guy. So you, to me,

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Speaker 1: you can't. Yes, we can argue the fact that he

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Speaker 1: didn't win the Super Bowl, but it always helps when

472
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Speaker 1: you're the first. And he was kind of the first

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Speaker 1: guy to just have this amazing arm where we were like, okay,

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Speaker 1: we've not seen anything like that. We've seen other great quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: other great leaders, we haven't seen an armed talent like that.

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Speaker 1: So him kind of being the maybe you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: not the first ever, but the first of that the

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Speaker 1: more modern era. I think that's why he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: on the list permanently, because he's the thing that's the

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Speaker 1: good argue. He's the guy that we now say, oh

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Speaker 1: he throws like Dan Marino. Right, he now set the

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Speaker 1: trend where we now say, oh he has he gets

483
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Speaker 1: it out as quick as Dan Marino. Man, he put

484
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Speaker 1: up numbers at the same rate Dan Marino did. So

485
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: you can't take that guy. Now. The guy we can't

486
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Speaker 1: take off is Brett Farr, because you can't be the

487
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Speaker 1: guy when I don't even know if you're the best guy.

488
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: And that's who wore the same uniform anymore. Yes, you

489
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Speaker 1: were before him, and being before someone always helps because

490
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Speaker 1: we have an infinity for you. He was more much,

491
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Speaker 1: much more likable than Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers comes off

492
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Speaker 1: as pompous as arrogance. He has personal issues with his family,

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Speaker 1: and I won't dive into that because I think that's

494
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Speaker 1: a very serious matter. That's that's not really you know,

495
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Speaker 1: that's a serious thing. That's his family. But he's all

496
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Speaker 1: these things where maybe he's not as beloved as Geo Golly,

497
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm playing sandlot football Brett Farr, And you cannot discount

498
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Speaker 1: those things from mattering because at the end of the day,

499
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Speaker 1: think about it, he be when you have one guy

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Speaker 1: versus another, and you've done this, You've voted for things,

501
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: You've had to put out lists where they've been know

502
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: you've been the expert on these things. When it comes

503
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 1: down to it, there's always something in an eight bias

504
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: that you may have why you choose the person when

505
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Speaker 1: it comes down and it really is just between the

506
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Speaker 1: two and I just like him better, or he was

507
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: just more fun, or he just seemed like more of

508
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: my type of guy I'd rather have a beer. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what edged out Brett Farve over Aaron

510
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Speaker 1: Rodgers because listen, you already touched on some of the numbers.

511
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Speaker 1: What Aaron Rodgers has been able to do is absolutely remarkable.

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Speaker 1: The guy only has interceptions. You're talking about interceptions, He

513
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Speaker 1: has what eighty three and he has three hundred and

514
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Speaker 1: sixty two touchdowns, all time leader in touchdown the interception

515
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Speaker 1: Brett far through almost thirty in one year. Think about that,

516
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Speaker 1: more than a third of Aaron Rodgers Jameis Winston tendencies. Yes, exactly,

517
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: and that is not the good ones. Okay, And I

518
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: don't know that Jamis does. Maybe his speeches, that's about it.

519
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Maybe they have a southern thing. They both had that

520
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: southern thing, him and Brett. But that's my biggest thing

521
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers is man. Look, he's we all say

522
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: he's the most talented, arguably most talented quarterback we've ever seen,

523
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: arguably top three five most talented football players bar none

524
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: any position we've ever seen. But you know something about

525
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: that word talent, It only gets you so far before

526
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: people become annoyed, before people use it against you. Because

527
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Speaker 1: you're so talented, Aaron Rodgers, why have you only won

528
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: one super Bowl? You're so talented? Why are your team's

529
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: good on record but they don't really do anything in

530
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: the postseason? If you're so good, why does Ben Roethlisberger

531
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Speaker 1: have two? Why Eli Manning have two? Tom Brady has

532
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: forty two? I mean all these guys have, all your

533
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: peers have all these super Bowl rings and you Joe

534
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: Flacco's got one? You know, so here is the issue.

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00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is so talented that why does he only

536
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Speaker 1: have one? And we saw that happen with somebody else,

537
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Lebron James. If you're so talented, Lebron, why don't you

538
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: have a ring? Why don't you have this? Why can't

539
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: you find a way to win? If you're so talented.

540
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: Once you start becoming so good that we want to

541
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: knock guys off Mount Rushmore who've been there for decades,

542
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: then you have a fan base and a group of

543
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: people and analysts and talking heads like us who actually

544
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Speaker 1: starts to hold on, hold on wo wo wo wo woa,

545
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: pump the brakes. You I'm not taking Joe Monte. He's

546
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: not more talented. He's not better than Joe Montana. He's

547
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: not better than Tom Brady. He's not better than this guy.

548
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: And this guy showed me prove it why. And we

549
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: did that with Lebron who wa wall He's not better

550
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: than Magic, he's not better than Bird, he's not better

551
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: than these guys. Whoa doctor Jay whoa? Will tell me why,

552
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: and we start having that ring conversation, and then we

553
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: start to save. If you're so talented, why haven't you?

554
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: And I think that is what's happened to Aaron Rodgers,

555
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: because it can't be numbers right, and it can't be

556
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: ability like pure talent. I think it has to be

557
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: you haven't done enough of that talent, so that's why

558
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: you're out the list. I do think there may be

559
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: some of that to it. I think people question and

560
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: this year so far, so far, Rogers may be going

561
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: a long way and dispelling some of those myths you

562
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: know about. But going into this season, what was the talk?

563
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Does he have the intangibles? I said it myself. The

564
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: dude is so great, but yet he's not lifting his team,

565
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: at least not lately. You know, because it looks like

566
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: he may lack some of the intangibles, you know, And

567
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I think this year he's going a long way in

568
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: dispelling that. You know, everybody wondered how to get along

569
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: with Matt Lafleur. He's gotten a long, swimming lead with him.

570
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Everything's been great. He stayed within the offense obviously as

571
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: the you know, the opportunities and the rights to check

572
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: down in audible and things like that as the line

573
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. But he's still staying within the offense. He's

574
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: not getting out of the pocket as much as he

575
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: used to, not you know, trying to make the big plays,

576
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: taking what the defense is giving him. So I think

577
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: he's dispelling some of that. But yeah, those questions about

578
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: him were out there. I just don't see how in

579
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: the world. It's hard for me to fathom how he's

580
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: not on this list. There is no doubt in my

581
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: mind that he's better. He's a better quarterback than Brett Farve.

582
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Speaker 1: Is he better than Paid Manning? I would put Manning.

583
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: I would take Manning by accomplishments. No, I mean, I

584
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: think Manning. Manning changed the game we weren't seeing. I mean,

585
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: now you even see it at the high school levels,

586
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming up there, you know what I mean, pointing

587
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: out the defenses and the coverages and watch this dude,

588
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 1: and you know all that stuff. So Manning was the

589
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: first to do all that. He was an offensive coordinator

590
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: and a quarterback. He was remarkable to watch. I remember

591
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: when I other than man It's been years since I

592
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: played Madden because I just between work. I've never played

593
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: Madden in my life. I always sam, I need you

594
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: to hit me with the find the nack, Doc, Hold up,

595
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: I need that. What do you wait? How how have

596
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: you ever waiting? Gave me a lot of money too, No,

597
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: it didn't. You could did see it? Like, I really

598
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: let me how much I like you? I really really do.

599
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: You're a good guy. We're both you know, men of faith.

600
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: You see it and you know your stuff. But this

601
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: just set me back right now because how have you that?

602
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: I was like saying, I never heard of hip hop? Yeah, like,

603
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: how have you not? I'm not even saying you had

604
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: to love man but how have you not played it?

605
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's just an age thing by the time. Yeah,

606
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: when I was in college, the big thing was in television.

607
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: Did you play tech mo Bowl. Yeah, all right, I

608
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: played tech Moobowl, played it twice. No, I played well it.

609
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: Techno Bowl was obviously in the arcade, and I was

610
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: in arcade sometime, but I wasn't like, no, so you're

611
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: not a video in there all the time. Uh No,

612
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge video game guy. I like him

613
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: like I did get kind of hooked within television in college.

614
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Me and some of my boys would played that all

615
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: the time. But I'm not I've never been like just

616
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: this gamer like where I always got to play. I

617
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: don't think you're just having again a big forty outs

618
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: of Mountain dude and eating some you know, chips and

619
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: playing games all night. I didn't think you're that guy,

620
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: but I thought you accidentally fellable. You've been in sports

621
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: too long where I thought you'd have to be at

622
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: like a you know, covering a Madden big Super Bowl

623
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: party and they made you play Madden like something that

624
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: had Chris Broussard playing Madden. However, I've been with my

625
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: cousins when they were playing that was it. That was

626
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: one time. Because here's the thing though, and you might

627
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: attested this, it's too complicated to just roll up that

628
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: every thing like, I'm like, look, that's like Star Wars.

629
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Speaker 1: I'm too far behind. I only saw the first Star Wars.

630
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: I ain't see him. I saw bits and pieces of

631
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: Empire strikes, all that stuff. I was balling. Listen. I

632
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: was on the court's break the ankles while y'all playing

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Speaker 1: video games and watching science fictions. So you don't think

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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson never saw Star Wars. And I know Magic

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Speaker 1: Jordans me Lebron, we ain't in all that man ball.

636
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Speaker 1: You know, we got we gotta talk to somebody else

637
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Speaker 1: because I don't care. We get back to this all right.

638
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Speaker 1: Let me this brother goes way back with me to

639
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Speaker 1: win my daughter before my daughter's even born. And uh,

640
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Speaker 1: we worked together in Cleveland with the Cavaliers. Now he's

641
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Speaker 1: gone on the just bigger and better things than it.

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Speaker 1: Had a tremendous careers with NBC. Dallas fort Worth knew

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Speaker 1: he scrugs knew he what's happening in brothers? What's up? Man?

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Speaker 1: So I turned forty nine yesterday. I did a spin

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Speaker 1: class started day. So now I'm in the Wayne class.

646
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Speaker 1: Why trying trying to make sure I can get the fifty.

647
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Speaker 1: So that's good. You know, I always got tough for you,

648
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Speaker 1: my man. And well that's good motivation for me too,

649
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: because I need to do some of that myself. But

650
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Speaker 1: you were, you were right there in the center of

651
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Speaker 1: the universe apparently right now. And what is going on?

652
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett still alive? What's going on down there with

653
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Speaker 1: the cowgoys? Forty young kids out there? They won't remember it,

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Speaker 1: but you and I we remember it. The movie called

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Speaker 1: Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Yes, And at the end of

656
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Speaker 1: the movie, after all the credit you see Ferris come

657
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Speaker 1: back there. He says, what you're still here? Go home?

658
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: It's over shooting. And that's what I'm thinking yesterday with

659
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Speaker 1: this went Wait a minute, Jarret's still here. It's over.

660
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: He should go home. But this, you know, and I

661
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: come back to this thing. I say all the time.

662
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: If people tell me another franchise to operate like this,

663
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: it wins, You don't, man. And that's the part for

664
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Speaker 1: me that's so frustrating. It's like, come on, man, this

665
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Speaker 1: guy doesn't deserve to come back. It's ten years. After

666
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Speaker 1: ten years, you know what you've got, and what you've

667
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: got is not a winning head coach. How about this? Now?

668
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Speaker 1: I had to write and Chris, you know about this

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Speaker 1: one before being a new favorite business. You got to

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Speaker 1: write the obituary before it happened, right, So I had

671
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: to write this Garret obituary, and you know, we cut it.

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Speaker 1: And so I looked up and I said, the last

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00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: ten years have Garrett's been here? Twelve different NFC teams, Okay,

674
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: twelve different teams have played in the NFC Championship Game.

675
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Speaker 1: The Cowboys were not one of them. The four who

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00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: didn't Dallas, Washington, Detroit, and Tampa Bay. This is where

677
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans need to understand. This is where your organization is.

678
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: You're on the level with the Lions. You're on the Levelington.

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Speaker 1: So when you get armed with this kind of information,

680
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: it should tell you something. Now, three three different years

681
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: in a row, okay, three straight years in a row,

682
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: Garrett had an opportunity to win the NFC East, lost

683
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Speaker 1: to Philly, lost to the Giant, lost of a rookie

684
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Speaker 1: RG three in Washington, and then last two weeks ago

685
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Speaker 1: they faces Philly. You know this is for the division,

686
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Speaker 1: and they lost again. So four times he's had an

687
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Speaker 1: opportunity to take the division and he's lost them. I

688
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: don't care that he's won three. Can we talk about

689
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: the four you lost? And when he lost the Philly

690
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: you lost to a team that was destimated through injury.

691
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: This guy has done an excellent job of conning Jerry,

692
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: and they're letting Jerry do all the things he wants

693
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: to do, is saying and believing he's got all his

694
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Speaker 1: control and staying the head coach of the team. This

695
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: guy is a nice person, but he's not a good coach.

696
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: And just go back to the movie Jerry McGuire when

697
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: Bob Sugar says it's not sure friends to show business,

698
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: are you in or are you out? And they need

699
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: to be out on Jerry and Evans on Jason and

700
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: Jerry needs to make this decision today while we got

701
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Speaker 1: to wait till Thursday because they won't do on Wednesday

702
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Speaker 1: because wednesday's the Winter Classic game that they're gonna have

703
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Speaker 1: in the NHL, the outdoor game and at the Cotton

704
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: Bowl eighty four thousands of people, so it's not happening

705
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Speaker 1: them all. So it's got to happen today. Man knew

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Speaker 1: he should happen today. NEWI scrugs with us on Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick's show Christy star covin Washington, NEWI scrugs, NBC Dallas

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Speaker 1: Fort Worth, giving us all the insight what's happening down there?

709
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Speaker 1: And Dallas by the way. Unlike you CB New, he

710
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: seems like he knows some movies and some pop culture

711
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: stuff right now. I mean, he's hitting me with Jerry McGuire,

712
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: see me with Ferris Bueller. Um, those are from my era.

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Speaker 1: I know those movies. Well, we'll see you later, all right,

714
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: but let me let me throw this one at you here.

715
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Speaker 1: So let's assume what you're saying. It looks like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Adam Stefter's even and tweeting out that, UM, expectations continue

717
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: to be that Garrett in Dallas. Part ways, they're gonna

718
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: be a meeting at noon Central today, another meeting. Let's

719
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: say they do move on. What where do you go now?

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Speaker 1: Do you find a prominent NFL coach, maybe a guy

721
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Speaker 1: who's sitting out. Do you go find the next hot

722
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Speaker 1: guy out of college? Do you talk to Irban Meyer?

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Speaker 1: What is? What are you hearing down there that they're there?

724
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Speaker 1: The next the next coach is? The resolution is? Um,

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00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: here's my thought and you just kind of start to thinking,

726
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: you know, just go through your history of Jared so

727
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: you've gone through a guy who's gonna do whatever you want.

728
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: So now you may go for a guy who's a

729
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: bigger fish, bigger name, and a guy who's had some

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Speaker 1: cut head coaching experience. I don't believe you could bring

731
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: in the guy like Lincoln Ryler Irban Miner has never

732
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: had any NFL experience. I just think it's too much,

733
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Speaker 1: especially with this Yet, this job is not just about football.

734
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: This job deals with the entertainment and crazy stuff. I mean,

735
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Speaker 1: you could be trying to you would you want to

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Speaker 1: use a part of the facility, and you can't because

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Speaker 1: they got some party or some entertainment thing going on

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Speaker 1: around here. I mean, it's pretty interesting of how this

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Speaker 1: thing operates. So I don't think you can take a

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Speaker 1: college coach who doesn't have any experience. Matt Rule of

741
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: Baylor has coached for the Giant. That could be a

742
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: guy they talked to because I said, he understands the NFL.

743
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: I look at a list, and this is gonna sound crazy.

744
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: When I thought of somebody in the organization, they said, hey,

745
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: we'll call Belichick. Okay, Sean Payton is their dream candidate.

746
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: Sean just signed that extension. But you know, hey, contracts

747
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: or contract you know, they they mean whatever people want

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00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: them to mean. Sometimes they mean you can't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they do m Mike Zimmer is a guy who's

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Speaker 1: been here exam, was on the ass that won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, ast Super Bowl thirty. He's in Minnesota, he's

752
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: got one year left. You want to trade a pick

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Speaker 1: and get him out of Minnesota. That's the guy that

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00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: they could talk to. UM. I really believe Rich Masaccia

755
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: of the Tampa Bay formerly as the Tampa Bayuccaneers with

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Speaker 1: John Grew and now with Oakland and John Grew, he

757
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: used to be with the Cowboy. This is a leader

758
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: of men. And you look at John Harbaugh and what

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00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: he has done in Baltimore. I believe guys don't give

760
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: enough consideration to special teams coaches because these guys coach everybody.

761
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: You know, they have to deal with everybody. To me

762
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: and Rich Besachi would be a perfect fit for what

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Speaker 1: they need. There's not a talent issue down here. It's

764
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: an accountability issue down Jason gets afraid to confront guys.

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00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: Rich Besichi would not be afraid to do that. So

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Speaker 1: there's a guy I would love for them to interview

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00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: Will McClay. He's a player personnel director. There's a wildcard

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Speaker 1: name after there's a guy that they like, know and

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Speaker 1: trust that he's been able to procure them some talent

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Speaker 1: through the draft. At some point in time, you couldn't

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Speaker 1: let Will McClay coach. I know he coaches the Arena

772
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Speaker 1: League and some people who may scoff at that, but

773
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: Will McClay knows what he's doing and has respective men.

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Speaker 1: That's just kind of a wild card name. Jim Carwell

775
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: is a respective guy. He's coached the team to a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Will McClay and his work he did with

777
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco when the Ravens went on that Super Bowl run,

778
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: but that was Jim's work there, worked with Tayton Manning. Um,

779
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: this guy's really good. And they've got Dak Prescott. They

780
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: want to continue to built Dak Prescott. So Jim carl

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Speaker 1: Will think guy that they in my opinion, they need

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Speaker 1: to talk to. UM. Those are some of the names

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Speaker 1: for me. This is just me and my list of guys,

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Speaker 1: and I think that they should give a give a

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00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: phone call to or have a conversation with with where

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Speaker 1: they're at right now. That's a nice list all right, nui,

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Speaker 1: we appreciated brother. Happy New Year, have a great night tonight.

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Speaker 1: could change both the NFL and the world of college

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Speaker 1: This is the latest to come out within the past hour.

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Speaker 1: if I'm the Giants and I can get Wink Martindale

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Speaker 1: to work with Daniel Jones Danny Dimes, sign me up. No,

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Speaker 1: that's great, because you're what you be doing also is

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Speaker 1: fact that Danny Danny Dimes is so young. Whether there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be games, he's gonna make mistakes, there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: games he's not producing at a high level, but you

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Speaker 1: have a steady defense. If you look at the young

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Speaker 1: guys who've had success, not just success, but have taken

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl level, what do they have on the

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Speaker 1: other end, Tom Brady wasn't this Tom Brady? Well he

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Speaker 1: actually more like this time Brady, but he wasn't the

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Speaker 1: you know that twelve year run he had. He was.

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Speaker 1: Don't hurt us, manage the game. We got a great defense,

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Speaker 1: the great special team. Same thing with Ben Roethlisberger, great defense,

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Speaker 1: great special team. Same thing with Russell Wilson, great defense,

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Speaker 1: great running and graceful teams. So if you can come

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Speaker 1: in with that development of the quarterback position and while

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Speaker 1: able to win some games that way, that bowls very

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Speaker 1: well for your young quarterback. Yeah. I love it. I

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Speaker 1: mean and I see I think it was great. That's

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Speaker 1: why you play Danny Dimes this year. Let him learn

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Speaker 1: he had a lot of mistakes. I mean, I thought

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Speaker 1: they were in that Eagles game. They were in that

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Speaker 1: Eagles game until the fumble, you know, for the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: But I think you'd be covering the offensive end and

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Speaker 1: the defensive end. I like that a lot if I

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Speaker 1: am the New York Giants. All right, Kelvin Washington, Chris Bruce,

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