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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Tyler Murray, that defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 4: All that was nasty right there?

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Speaker 2: Rights slam on the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic.

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Speaker 2: Al. I want you guys to think about something off

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Speaker 2: the top. No visuals here on Cardinals Underground this week.

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Speaker 2: But if there was a visual, a meme, if you will,

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Speaker 2: that would describe your mood or how people should think

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Speaker 2: Pacific Office Automation, Danny looks a little perplexed Danny's meme

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Speaker 2: might have glasses. She's wearing glasses today? Or am I

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Speaker 2: not supposed to reveal that? Sorry, Darren always wearing glasses?

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Speaker 2: Usually I should be wearing glasses. I couldn't even drive

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Speaker 2: home without glasses. But I have contact lenses in so.

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Speaker 4: You have contacts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, here, I'll go first. I'd say mine would probably

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Speaker 2: be the crying Jordan meme right now, Okay, because as

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Speaker 2: much as.

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Speaker 4: We're alloyated pretty quick, well, we're.

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Speaker 2: Enjoying the weather here, but the worst day of the

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Speaker 2: year is coming up quickly. I'd say it's Saturday, the

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Speaker 2: one hundred degree forecast, and there ain't no going back.

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Speaker 4: But see, that's the funny thing there might be. I

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Speaker 4: thought I saw like a week from like like late

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Speaker 4: next week, Thursday, Friday. I thought it was supposed to

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Speaker 4: dip back to the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, taking it one day at a time, so

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Speaker 2: I let it.

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Speaker 4: And normally I and I did throw a tantrum at

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Speaker 4: home the other day when I saw it was going

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Speaker 4: to be one hundred, But then I tried to look

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Speaker 4: longer out.

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Speaker 3: Why are you guys confused? We've already hit one hundred,

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Speaker 3: Like a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: You knew it wasn't there to stay.

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Speaker 4: You prayed it wasn't there to stay again one day

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Speaker 4: at a time.

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Speaker 2: The worst moment, what really drives it home for yours, truly,

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Speaker 2: thanks for asking, is when you have to put these

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Speaker 2: screens on the back windows for good. It's going to

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Speaker 2: be up for at least six months. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: and I have to put away my Kurt Cobaine flannel shirt,

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Speaker 2: you know with the blown out elbows. You know, enjoy

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Speaker 2: wearing the flannel shirt, maybe in the morning or in

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Speaker 3: And I've only ever seen you in a Cardinals polo,

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Speaker 3: but I'd love to see.

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Speaker 2: You in that. All you have to do is go

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Speaker 2: go call up their Nirvana live at Paramount YouTube Video

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Speaker 2: there a concert and it's pretty much the same flannel shirt.

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Speaker 2: Not by design, I'm just saying it is. And it's

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Speaker 2: it's almost in as bad as shape as what Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cobaine was wearing for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's kylish, right.

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Speaker 2: It just serves a purpose, you know. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: What are you going to offer up a meme at all?

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Speaker 4: You're playing here? I'm not going to get into details

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Speaker 4: of the how and the why. But if I had

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Speaker 4: a meme right now, it's pretty anxious, pretty pretty anxious.

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Speaker 2: Pretty anxious.

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Speaker 4: Yes, interesting, A lot of stuff going on here at Cardinals. HQ. Oh,

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Speaker 4: pretty anxious.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you what are you allowed to say?

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Speaker 2: What can you share? In terms of you know, what's

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Speaker 2: for the record, what's off the record?

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Speaker 1: What you know?

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Speaker 2: It's just us here in the trust tree, Cardinals on

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Speaker 4: I think I think there's some cool content coming. That's

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Speaker 4: as far as I'll go with it. But there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of moving parts, Paul.

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Speaker 2: There's some complexities.

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Speaker 4: I see a lot of moving parts. So I'm actually

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Speaker 4: And and number two, because we are not doing video

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Speaker 4: this week, I don't worry about anybody seeing how dressed

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Speaker 4: doing some manual labor today, so which is all I am?

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Speaker 4: The way I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to get a full day's work out

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Speaker 2: of you. Is that what you're saying? That's good? All right?

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Speaker 2: I think Danny's sitting there in silent protest as the

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Speaker 3: No mine is the pajama kid meme, the little boy

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Speaker 3: who's wearing pajamas on school day and he's just looking

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Speaker 3: I love that, I say everything.

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Speaker 2: so maybe that's the segue. And what was the question

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Speaker 2: number choice? Really okay, I mean I just thought it was.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know that some combination of you find

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Speaker 4: podcasters have already talked about the numbers at some point.

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Speaker 4: I forget which combination it was, but but I did.

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Speaker 4: I do think it's an interesting topic, especially given everything

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Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, what's okay, impromptu powerpol give me your

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Speaker 2: best number attached to which player I do.

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Speaker 4: I do love a cornerback with a zero. I do

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Speaker 4: think that could be really cool, especially if you have

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Speaker 4: be a shutdown call.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, especially yeah, if you if you shut out

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that has marketing potential. Absolutely, yeah, no doubt. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's my number one, Danny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna go with Will Johnson at zero

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Speaker 4: I like, I do like ninety seven. Everybody, especially like

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Speaker 2: I want to go with Kalais Campbell at ninety three,

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Speaker 2: just because you know that's it's a double dang. But

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Speaker 2: I'm going to advance pass the eighteen year veteran now

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to go to rookie Cody Simon. There's

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Speaker 2: something about a mic linebacker wearing fifty a Mike's singletary.

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Speaker 2: Just that mic linebacker wearing fifty at the epicenter of

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Speaker 2: and if you're that dude, it just makes so much

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Speaker 2: that to me has potential just the position itself.

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Speaker 3: I agree Tho's probably been my top three. So rookies

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Speaker 4: Yep, not too No offense to Kalays Campbell. We are

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Speaker 4: happy he's back in ninety three.

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Speaker 2: What about ten for Josh Sweat? I mean, I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at this and I'm saying a little confused.

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Speaker 4: We're not on video, Danny. You need to you can annunciate.

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Speaker 3: I gave two thumbs down because it just doesn't feel

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about ten versus five, which is

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Speaker 3: If I had three thumbs, I'd give it three thumbs down.

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Speaker 3: It's not personal. Clearly my opinion doesn't matter. They didn't

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you don't have three thumbs. I'm just going to.

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Speaker 3: Say that for the record, I want higher numbers. I

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Speaker 3: want higher numbers for those spots. It just feels better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the five for someone along the defensive front really

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Speaker 2: feels like college, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, and that was his college number, and then and

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Speaker 4: tent thing, if you recall correctly, Josh Sweat was asked

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Speaker 4: And uh, he said he wasn't sure. And obviously he

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Speaker 2: Ten? Last year was blank? He was a receiver, right,

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Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissec getting seven, So yeah, that's that's probably. Uh,

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Speaker 4: Probably, I think that would probably. I do know, you know,

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Speaker 4: I would, I would anticipate that. But once they drafted

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Speaker 2: Hunter, Wow, Wow, Okay, sorry, carry on, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Danny.

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Speaker 2: All right, nobody's wearing number eleven. And that's my segue

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Speaker 2: to Larry Fitzgerald and Darren your entry recently for Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame consideration, So update us where what is the latest?

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Speaker 2: This is the year, is it not?

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Speaker 4: This is the year. I'm really excited about it being

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Speaker 4: the year for if no other reason, the fact that

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Speaker 4: a minute, he never retired. How can he go in

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Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame? He has to retire. First, all

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Speaker 4: of those were incorrect. We've talked about this before. As

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Speaker 4: it was Luke on the Luke and Wolf Show or

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Speaker 4: somebody on the Luken Wolf Show making the suggestion of

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Speaker 4: how much they would love it for him to I'm

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Speaker 4: back and play one because he finished in twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: come back and be able to play one more game

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Speaker 4: in front of fans. I'm like, no, because that would

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Speaker 4: to do that, not just for that. So but yes,

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Speaker 4: it'll be in well, I guess technically will be February.

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Speaker 4: I think the week of the Super Bowl would be

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Speaker 4: the first week of February and twenty twenty six. That's

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Speaker 4: when he would go in.

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Speaker 2: Because the class is inducted around the Hall of Fame day.

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Speaker 4: You didn't all those games that we got to sit

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Speaker 2: The most remarking, and I could do a whole hour

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Speaker 2: I worked on the The Quintessential Larry Fitzgerald Career documentary.

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Speaker 2: But just gonna say, a few years ago I communicated

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Speaker 2: Where's the official retirement. Because we've been working on this

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Speaker 4: That sounds like him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I started the twenty twenty one season and

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Speaker 4: I just on a quick throw that though it was funny,

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Speaker 4: But the way they change the rules now it is

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Speaker 4: there was only a class of four guys. I'm not

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Speaker 2: But you know what, Look, Larry's getting in and I'm

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Speaker 2: He's getting in.

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Speaker 4: He's getting in.

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Speaker 2: I'm just but if it's more stringent standards for the

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Speaker 2: when Chubby Checker goes into the rock and Roll Hall

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Speaker 4: So if Eli mannings better, if Eli Manning gets in

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Speaker 2: Issue with it a little bit, a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest, really, I would do.

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Speaker 2: You know what, This is a good time for a breather. Okay,

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Speaker 2: here we go. We're gonna turn over to our own

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Speaker 2: Jim almhandro behind the keyboard. It is time for out

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Speaker 4: Please tell me your clip in that you have to

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Speaker 3: Can we have like an out of context slooperheel or something?

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Speaker 2: It shut is resplendent. Can I just say thank you?

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Speaker 2: You know the light will come on just like that.

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Speaker 3: And you're the keeper of the light.

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Speaker 4: Actually that is still getting clipped.

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Speaker 2: I mean, why won't anybody call me we cut the UFOs?

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Speaker 3: Really, I am not a good bartender. I have a

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Speaker 2: You and Dave pash that stories for another time. Speaking

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I forget that.

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Speaker 2: When I say edit it out and then it purposely

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Speaker 3: Our next autographed item is something signed by Darren Urban.

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Speaker 4: I love that point. Danny sol props to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's daily drivers and then there's collector cars. Ah,

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Speaker 2: I mean totally lit their hype. I mean the cops

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Speaker 4: You don't want to be out here, don't be in

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Speaker 2: There's some misinformation flying somewhere.

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Speaker 4: It's okay. You're allowed to disagree with Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 3: So strong and so fast and have such intense teeth

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Speaker 2: What is the point of the discussion.

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Speaker 4: The point is is social interaction.

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Speaker 3: Paul, I think that the average human male is being

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Speaker 3: vastly overrated. Felt to ass turn the lamp on top.

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Speaker 2: That thing needs an extreme makeover. And this point that.

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Speaker 3: Bus anyway, you are a man of grudges.

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Speaker 2: This is just abject incompet It's just her tone of

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Speaker 2: her voice sounds like she's setting up and she's really not.

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Speaker 3: I wish you would have the nerve to make eye

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Speaker 4: Wow, So I do kind of wish we had video today.

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Speaker 4: There was some quality reactions to the out of context.

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Speaker 2: Had had an edge to it, pretty contentious. That go

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Speaker 2: out of context right there? All right? That would qualify

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Speaker 2: was done and out of context. Yes, most definitely out

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Speaker 2: And but winning behavior a little bit later, not so

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Speaker 2: Want or need? Okay, wide receiver two? Want or need?

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Speaker 2: Because Darren, you have your finger on the pulse of

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Speaker 3: Well, and then that I mean bringing in a new receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yes, a Marii Cooper, A Marii Cooper. Is that still

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Speaker 4: Among the red side somebody. I saw some articles saying

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen that, and they've done that.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I saw one of the car the Cowboys beat

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Speaker 4: but if that happened, I'd be really angry that he

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Speaker 2: Because well, here's the article I just saw a half

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Speaker 2: and it was Cowboys one, Jets two, and basically summarizing

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Speaker 4: That's pretty tough fair probably, although if somebody did most people,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with need for your question. Okay, the

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Speaker 3: we heard from players and coaches alike that they wanted

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Speaker 3: you get more out of Zay Jones who we hardly

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of questions. I think that is

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Speaker 4: It's funny because I was trying to give. I saw

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Speaker 2: The one handed grab this week, right one too.

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Speaker 4: Like again, we've seen good Greg Dortch. I just wonder sometimes,

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Speaker 4: like where where does all this fit? Like, let's say

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Speaker 4: right the way this offense is and the way Trey

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Speaker 4: Is Amari Cooper enough of a blocker that you're going

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Speaker 4: Is he going to be the blocker Michael Wilson is.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what Rob Frederickson said on the Red Sea Report.

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Speaker 2: Canny block really block.

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Speaker 4: A fine, upstanding gentleman.

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Speaker 3: Here's my follow up question. Can't you have enough plays

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Speaker 3: staff prioritizes wide receivers who can block and I completely

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Speaker 3: up for Marvin Harrison Junior, It's possible that's going to

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm also saying,

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Speaker 4: run this offense the vast majority of the time. They

439
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 4: want to be lined up, so you don't know if

440
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 4: they're gonna throw or if they're gonna run. And if

441
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 4: you put Amari Cooper out there, you're probably not running.

442
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 2: The Drew Petsing word is multiple. You always want to

443
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: be multiple, at least pose the threat. I'm gonna go

444
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 2: back being multiple.

445
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back to when I talked to Monty

446
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 4: Austin for at the owners meetings and I ask them

447
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 4: about the potential of a speed receiver. And I'm pare

448
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 4: phrasing now, but he basically said, with we need people

449
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 4: that do everything, and if you're just a one trick pony,

450
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 4: that doesn't help us.

451
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Speaker 2: You know what, It's funny because I can.

452
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 4: Say it quite like that I'm I'm interpreting.

453
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 2: On Friday when I carried Wolf s Keister speaking to

454
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Speaker 2: the Wolf of Luke show, and we got into it,

455
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: and he continues the narrative. Well, you know, a speed

456
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 2: receiver would be nice, someone to take the top off

457
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 2: stretch the field everybody. Now, I said, I'd rather just

458
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Speaker 2: have a receiver who is money on third down when

459
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Speaker 2: it's third and gotta have it. I'd rather have the

460
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Speaker 2: receiver a Keenan Allen, for example. You know a guy

461
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: who's been there and done that can get to the sticks,

462
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: you can find the window, can be a reliable target,

463
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 2: developed that trust in chemistry with Kyler. To me, that's

464
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: and for everything Greg Deorch did at times last year,

465
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Speaker 2: there were also a number of times where he just

466
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Speaker 2: ended up a yard shy of the first down marker.

467
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Speaker 2: And so, okay, do they have a Xavier Weaver who's

468
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Speaker 2: ready to take a jump. A guy who flashed in

469
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,959
Speaker 2: practice got some opportunities the end of the regular season.

470
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: He got open, he got some targets, he got his

471
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: hands on the ball, couldn't quite finish. He finished a

472
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Speaker 2: lot of those in practice and during camp and full

473
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Speaker 2: speed drill. So does he have it in him in games.

474
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Speaker 2: Maybe he's pretty quick, he's not a four to three guy,

475
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: but or go ahead.

476
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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, But going back to Danny's point,

477
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Speaker 4: which is I don't want to get too far field

478
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Speaker 4: on the speed receiver thing, like again a wide receiver too.

479
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Speaker 4: Is that guy still out there? Is that something? I mean,

480
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 4: it feels like at this point, and you guys can

481
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Speaker 4: disagree with me if you want, excuse me, but it

482
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Speaker 4: feels like if you win after a veteran guy at

483
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Speaker 4: this point, it's probably not gonna be intil August, right.

484
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Speaker 4: I don't see them finding somebody to come in for OTAs.

485
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Speaker 4: And if I'm a MARII Cooper, I'm not sure I

486
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Speaker 4: want to do that. Like, if you're a Mari Cooper

487
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Speaker 4: and nobody's offered you the kind of money you want,

488
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Speaker 4: you're gonna want to go to a place that might

489
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Speaker 4: even see was receiver one.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a big question of bringing in a veteran

491
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: receiver is what are they wanting from a team. And

492
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Speaker 3: if you're going to come here and know that you're

493
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Speaker 3: going to be behind Harrison and you know the role

494
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 3: that McBride has, and you know that they like to

495
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: use James Connor out of the backfield. Are you okay

496
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: coming here knowing you're probably not gonna, you know, have

497
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: a lot of games where you are the main target, right,

498
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Speaker 3: It's probably gonna fluctuate.

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Speaker 4: And the other thing to me also is is like, look,

500
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Speaker 4: and we've seen it. They've brought veteran receivers in here

501
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Speaker 4: before near the and I'm not saying it Marik Cooper's

502
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Speaker 4: near the end of his career, but like Michael Crabtree

503
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Speaker 4: or even AJ Green, although AJ Green had a pretty

504
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Speaker 4: good first season when he was here, a decent first season,

505
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Speaker 4: and I think they would love to have the kind

506
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Speaker 4: of season AJ Green had was at twenty one. I

507
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 4: think it was twenty one. But you know, if Amari

508
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 4: Cooper was all that, he would be signed by now.

509
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Speaker 2: Well, and a lot of Bills fans will back you

510
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: up on that and say, you know what is last

511
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: year or the Bills was pretty underwhelming and when he

512
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: missed the final five games the last year and the

513
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: Bills were still scoring thirty points a game, sort of

514
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: like that rant GM Brandon Bean went on with those

515
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: Buffalo radio hosts right after the draft when they were

516
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: lamenting the lack of receivers in the draft.

517
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Speaker 4: I don't think that was winning behavior, by the way.

518
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, the film is not that great from

519
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and Amari Cooper. Plus, I think there's

520
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: enough competition, or at least enough need out there. You know,

521
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: teams like the Cowboys and the Jets who probably are

522
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Speaker 2: gonna drive his price tag beyond what MANI considers feasible

523
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Speaker 2: and acceptable.

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Speaker 4: I'm asking this genuinely, is not to poke at you,

525
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 4: but you're gonna know a little bit better. Do you

526
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 4: think the Cowboys would entertain bringing him back or do

527
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 4: you think the okay?

528
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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Just checking absolutely.

529
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Speaker 2: Then again, what if Marvin Harrison Junior explodes in year two.

530
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Speaker 4: Then you definitely need wide receiver one because he's dead.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, like Danny and I say it's a need, but

532
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 2: maybe it does become only a want as I just

533
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: continue to cruise pass that you there cracks himself up

534
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: over here because NFL dot com has an article out

535
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: today ten notable year two players or a poie for

536
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Speaker 2: a breakout campaign in twenty twenty five, number three Marvin

537
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Speaker 2: Harrison Junior for the first two I don't have an

538
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: in front of me thanks for asking me a question

539
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: I can't answer, Darren.

540
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 4: Damn it.

541
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Speaker 2: This is Mark Ross who's a NFL network former front

542
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: office guy, and so.

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Speaker 4: I mean, could I pose the fact that if Marvin

544
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Speaker 4: does not have a breakout year two, that that's all

545
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 4: kinds of problems he cites.

546
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Speaker 3: I've got the list he site, go ahead, number one,

547
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: Drake May Okay, number two, Caleb Williams, number three, Marvin

548
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior for Xavier Legette, and.

549
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Speaker 4: Then the list goes on Les Xavier Leguts in Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Yes, those first two guys didn't have an offense of lines.

551
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 2: So a lot of it has to do with the

552
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: personnel around them, with the Patriots and Bears on office,

553
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: always quarterback, but Marvin Harrison Junior, this is about Marvin,

554
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: and Mark Ross cited and I forget about this, And

555
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: it's true. There were seven games he was held a

556
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: fewer than forty yards receiving. So for everything he did

557
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: do his rookie year, there is ample room for improvement.

558
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: True.

559
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: And you know it's interesting because what did Jonathan Gann

560
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: until Adam Shine on satellite radio that he has loved

561
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: everything about Marvin's offseason so far, including the fact, when

562
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: the very end of last season occurred and they had

563
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: their player coach meeting, Marvin walked in with a list.

564
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: He's the one who headed JG the list and said,

565
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: here's what I need to work on. So then we

566
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: got into okay, would what should be on that list?

567
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: We all watched every snap of his rookie season, and

568
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 2: I went back with the old four c's. You know,

569
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: when you go to buy a diamond ring for the

570
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: misses and there's the cut color, clarity, and I always

571
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: forget the fourth one I can never remember and that

572
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: other fourth one because it's all scam, Darren. It's all

573
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: a scam to get you to pay big money for

574
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 2: a for a diamond ring. I know it works, cut color, clary,

575
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: and the most obvious one karrot.

576
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: Thank how big is the rock?

577
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll edit that out later. Okay, So here's what

578
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: I have, uh, four c's. I have contested, get better

579
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: at the contested catches. Confidence. You know there were times

580
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: where he talked about okay, you know, game was fast,

581
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: all right, So hopefully after year one confidence consistency, because

582
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: he had some great games and then he had those

583
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: seven games forty yards or fewer and then I have

584
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: to come up with a synonym for separation. Is there

585
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: a word that starts with C that's a synonym for separation,

586
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: because that's that's the last one I think needs to

587
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: be in there. Well, I mean or routree.

588
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 4: You could just spell it with a sea and say

589
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 4: it's a soft sea and separate.

590
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: It's French Canadian, So we could do that.

591
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: Anything else, well, this goes with the confidence. But I

592
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 4: just Drew Trell's words kind of ring in my ear

593
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: at the end of the season when he basically said,

594
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: I want Marvin to go out there and realize that

595
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 4: he's Marvin effing Harrinson and they've got to defend me

596
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: rather than worrying about And I do think that's natural

597
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 4: for anybody in any profession. That first year you're never

598
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: going to feel like you're that person, But the second year,

599
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: you definitely can feel like you're that person.

600
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Speaker 2: That was low key, a really good interview that Drew

601
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: that was.

602
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 4: I agree it was low key because nobody, not a

603
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 4: lot of people talk. But I based the whole Marvin

604
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 4: Harrison's story at the end of the year based basically

605
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: that interview.

606
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: Remember that, Yeah, there's some really insightful.

607
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: Really, he had a pretty uh powerful, should a passionate

608
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: answer when I had asked about separation, because at the time,

609
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: you're the end Cardinals like Michael Wilson and Marvin Harrison

610
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: junior through the NFL were listed as some of the

611
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: players who were having the fewest yards of separation, and

612
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: I was asking him about that, and he went into

613
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: a whole answer about how he doesn't even know how

614
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: that socided, and it has to do with the timing,

615
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: and it has to do with if the route had

616
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: to change or what the defender was showing, and when

617
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 3: did the quarterback throw the ball and what were the

618
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: yards after catch and all of these things. And I

619
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: was like, that's great.

620
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: Too long, didn't read Drew Trell does not believe in

621
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Speaker 4: the statistic of separation.

622
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Speaker 3: He does not.

623
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Speaker 4: That's right.

624
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: I am right there with you, though, Paul. And what

625
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: you want to see in a jump consistency, absolutely, and

626
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: consistency in all of those facets you were just talking about.

627
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't until the final two games of last season

628
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: when Harrison had games where he surpassed fifty receiving yards

629
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Speaker 3: and back to back games it was it was an

630
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: EBB and flow right. There were games he would pop

631
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: off in the first quarter and we wouldn't see him

632
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: again until the fourth, or he would have a really

633
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: great game and then be why at the next game,

634
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: whatever that might have been. When you're a number one receiver,

635
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: you need to go out and you need to be

636
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: a number one receiver on a week to week basis,

637
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: and even if you are demanding attention, you have to

638
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: be able to make those contested catches. You have to

639
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: be reliable, and he showed that. He showed that a

640
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: handful of times. The game against the Rams. He actually

641
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: looked good. Both games against La Miami was a fantastic

642
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: game for the rookie. He has all of the qualities

643
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: and the tangibles and a lot of the intangibles you

644
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 3: want of the work ethic and the humility and the

645
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: team first mentality that leads you to believe he will

646
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: have a jump in year two.

647
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Speaker 2: And the reason we heard the word swoll in out

648
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Speaker 2: of context there was in regards to some of the

649
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: pictures on Azcardinals dot com Marvin Arrison Junior, I mean

650
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Speaker 2: he's added some muscle mass.

651
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 3: Darius Robinson, who was already a large human being, looks

652
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: like he has put on some muscle.

653
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Speaker 2: I've heard that from a number of people.

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00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: I haven't seen him yet. Really a ton of videos. Okay,

655
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Speaker 4: all right, I think we got that's good sizzle. I

656
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Speaker 4: would I would check it out, check that out. Right.

657
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Speaker 2: So so I've come up with a new concept that

658
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: might be a staple for years to come, or it

659
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: could flop miraculously right now and you'll never hear it again.

660
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: But en below plays it's our leaving the Nest list

661
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: breakout players leaving the nest out on their own established That.

662
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: Makes it sound like they're leaving the Cardinals.

663
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: I know, I know it's not the greatest.

664
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: You know, he's work shopping.

665
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 2: So in addition to Marvion Errison Junior, I have eleven nominees. Okay,

666
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: here's the including or not including not including Marvin. That's

667
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: kind of you know, captain obvious and NFL dot Com

668
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: sort of grabbed him. So any other player on the

669
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: Cardinals current roster is fair game. Here's my top three

670
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: leaving the next poised for a breakout, yet.

671
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: Like you you need them to have a breakout, just.

672
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: They're poised for a breakout. Like Number one for me

673
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: is Trey Benson. I'm not saying you necessarily need it

674
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: because of James or is healthy. He's the dude and

675
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: he's running back one, but Trey Benson, number two, Will Johnson.

676
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: And the reason I throw that out there is, look

677
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: at Devin Witherspoon, right, he came in. He started every

678
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: single game for the Seahawks the last two years. He's

679
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: been all pro. I mean, Sauce Gardner, I looked it up,

680
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: started all seventeen games as a rookie. Patrick Surtan started

681
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: fifteen games out of the sixteen he played as a rookie.

682
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: It's to me, it's definitely doable. It's definitely feasible. Will

683
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: Johnson could break camp as CB one. I don't think

684
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: that's unrealistic. I don't think that's I don't take.

685
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: I don't think that's unrealistic in the least. I will say,

686
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: when you have a head coach who is a secondary guru,

687
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 4: I wonder about the experienced part of it and how

688
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: much love he probably already has with some of the

689
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: guys that are here. By the way, before we go

690
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: any further, almost, how about who will spread their wings

691
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: rather than who will leave the nest?

692
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: Who will spread their wings. I like that.

693
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: I like that. Okay, anyways, who's number three?

694
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 5: Then?

695
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: And for that reason, cornerback Max Melton was really tough,

696
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: and at the very end, it came down to either

697
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: Max Melton or Rabbit for top three, and I went Rabbit.

698
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: I went Rabbit. I just every time he was stinking

699
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: on the field, he made a play, his presence was known.

700
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: He's just a hard hitter. He's a difference maker. And

701
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, you know, or everything I love about

702
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: Jalen Thompson. I wonder if that's a competition more than

703
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: we think possible. I wonder if a Rabbit isn't out

704
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: there with Buddha Baker in the base defense.

705
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 4: That would be incredibly interesting. The whole secondary safeties and

706
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 4: cornerbacks together, It's going to be fascinating to see how

707
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: they end up keeping who they keep on the roster

708
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 4: and then how they deploy everybody. I would say, and again,

709
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 4: you've had a chance to actually do research on this

710
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 4: where you just kind of threw this at me and

711
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: Danny so true. My first thought, and I was thinking

712
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: this even before Danny just mentioned him, would be Darius Robinson.

713
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 4: I think he's been anxious to get back out there

714
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 4: and do things full speed since he went through everything

715
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 4: he went through last year. I think he's the kind

716
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 4: of kid who it's eating at him that he was

717
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: not able to be more successful as a rookie. And

718
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: I think being in that room is going to be

719
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 4: awesome for him because he's going to be He's the

720
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: kind of kid who's going to glomb up everything that

721
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: they try and feed him. And I think he's got

722
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: a real chance to be He played just enough last

723
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 4: year where I'm not worried about him going through rookie

724
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: growing pains and being able to be in his quote

725
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 4: unquote second year, you know.

726
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: And what does a Koalais do for him? What does

727
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: a Dalvin Tomlinson do for him? And here's the other

728
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: thing I'll throw out about Daris Robinson. Midway through his

729
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: rookie season, he lost his mom and so none of

730
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: us really knows exactly, but you know that had to

731
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: have been really tough, really different.

732
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: Just the way he kind of talked about it on

733
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 4: social media, you could or put it out there on

734
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 4: social media, you could tell.

735
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: So if he's a different person this year, both physically

736
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 2: and mentally spiritually, you know it makes a lot of sense.

737
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: He easily could be in the what is it spreading

738
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: the wings list? Now? Is that who will spread their wings?

739
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: Who will spread their wings? All right? Danny? Anyone come

740
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: to mind?

741
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: Well that was only one player, but sure I would

742
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: stand on would Darius Robinson was on my list for

743
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: sure for all the reasons you just mentioned. Going into

744
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 3: year one and a half essentially for him and knowing

745
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: the work ethic that he has and the tangibles and

746
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 3: what we had already seen before he got hurt, and

747
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: then to come in late and having a full off

748
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: season and being healthy and ready to go, I think

749
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: it's it's really going to give him the opportunity to

750
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: kind of jump onto the scene here. I'm going to

751
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: go with Josh Sweat, who had some of the best

752
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: years of his career in Philadelphia under Gannon and defensive

753
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 3: coordinator Nick Rollis. Last year he had eight sacks, nine

754
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: tackles for loss, fifteen QB hits. And you put him

755
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: behind a defensive line that's got Dalvin Tomlinson, Kalais Campbell,

756
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 3: Daries Robinson, Justin Jones, LJ.

757
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: Collier.

758
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: I think he is poised for success in this defense.

759
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 3: And my third I was going back and forth between

760
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: offense and defense. Offense, I want.

761
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: Don't take them all, so I need stilling to give

762
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: to me.

763
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: You had the opportunity, and you passed it to me.

764
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: You said, Danny, I wanted to go with guard Isaiah

765
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: Adams going into year two. I think I'm gonna go

766
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: with cornerback Max Melton and just what we saw from him,

767
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: and he was competing for a starting role with Star

768
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: Thomas and kind of sharing responsibility. He's there, and I

769
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: know that, you know, with good reason, everybody is very

770
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: high on Will Johnson. I don't think it's as easy, truthfully,

771
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: as you guys are making it seem like Johnson's going

772
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: to come in and have a starting role based on

773
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: what we saw from Melton and from Thomas, I don't

774
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: think it's going to be that simple for him to

775
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: come in and take a starting role. And I would

776
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: put Melton as my third player.

777
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a current Cardinals cornerback and you

778
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: were just sitting there over draft weekend, you're like, wait

779
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: a minute, they took Will Johnson. Hang on, they took

780
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: a kid who started fifty one games at Ohio State

781
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: and Denzel Burke. I mean, you are on high alert

782
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: if you're in that cornerback room right now.

783
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not possible by any means. I'm

784
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: just saying I think it's going to be a competition

785
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: with those three, specifically for two starting roles outside.

786
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: I would put Milton on my list because I think

787
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: Max Max is a really good dude, but he also

788
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: has a high opinion of himself in a good way,

789
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 4: and I think there's a part of him thinking, well,

790
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: wait a minute, if you're taking this Will Johnson guy

791
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: in the second round, and he can be an immediate starter.

792
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 4: What I'm not chopped liver here, So I do think

793
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be anxious to get out there.

794
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: The third guy I would have on my list, I

795
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 4: think would be Baron Browning, who flashed a little bit

796
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: at the end of last year, and I know he's

797
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: been in the league a couple more years than that,

798
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 4: but I think now that he's comfortable in his defense

799
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: and I think they're going to I think they're going

800
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: to use him. It'll be interesting to see. I mean,

801
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: I'm I think the Cardinals really need either he or

802
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 4: Bjojali to take a big jump. And it's funny we

803
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: don't even think of bj Ojalari when we're talking about

804
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 4: these things right now, because Adams I did do and

805
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 4: it's just like as you sit here and it's like

806
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 4: he could. We talk about this draft class and we

807
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 4: talk about who they didn't take. Oh, they didn't take

808
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: an offensive lineman, or they didn't take that. I mean,

809
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: we got guys like Bjojalari who would be essentially bringing

810
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 4: a draft pick into the mix. Darius Robinson really didn't

811
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: do much last year. He's coming into the mix. Elijah

812
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 4: Jones another cornerback, a third round cornerback. Yeah, he hasn't

813
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 4: even had a chance. Like you're gonna be putting some

814
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 4: guys in the mix of playing time that are essentially

815
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: like adding a free agent and or draft pick that

816
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 4: didn't do anything much last year that that hopefully will

817
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 4: also help this team.

818
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: Hey, Max Melton, I thought finished with a flourish his

819
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: last two or three games. He may have had some

820
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: pass breakups. He looked really good all accounts from the

821
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: head coach. He was tracking very well. But I like

822
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: the Josh sweat. In addition, what you said, Danny, what

823
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: did Josh SWT tell us when he met the media,

824
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: that Vic Fangio and that Super Bowl just said, go

825
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: get him, just unleash me, unlock me, just them, go

826
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: get them. And that's what Jonathan Gannon did with Josh

827
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: Sweat in Philadelphia. So if that's the you know mo

828
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: o with Josh Sweat in this defense, that's a good pick. Also,

829
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, how much better are the edge

830
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: rushers based on how much you improve the interior d line?

831
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: How much better is this secondary just based on how

832
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: much better the defensive front is right now? So the

833
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: other names I had on my list that you know,

834
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: sort of the watch list, tip Ryman, what's it going

835
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: to be all about in year two? Can I mean

836
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: he can catch the ball? Will you get any targets?

837
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: Once again, it's the mandatory give me one tight end

838
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 2: screen to Tip Ryman per game. And then I actually

839
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: had Chad Ryland in my list, believe it or not.

840
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: But Isaiah Adams. Has anyone seek out a visual on

841
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: Isaiah Adams? I mean Daris Robinson winning the off season,

842
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: Marvin Arrison Junior, what about Isaiah Adams? Anybody's seen what

843
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: he looks like? Is even living in the squad rack.

844
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know.

845
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: I can't speak for his living conditions, and nor have

846
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 4: I really seen him yet.

847
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: Can always count on Darren to take it literally appreciate that.

848
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: All right? You last, I answered, Rookie Mini Camp, what

849
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: are these guys going to get out of this? What

850
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 2: should they expect? I mean, I'll just take a quick

851
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you're certainly not gonna win a job in

852
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: Rookie minicamp, but you can tell. You can tell who

853
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: doesn't belong. You can usually get a quick grasp of okay,

854
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: that guy, Yeah, guess what, he doesn't have NFL measurables

855
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: or doesn't seem to be keeping up, and so it

856
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: really can be more of a disaster than it can

857
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: be a positive.

858
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 3: I think you get to that point of knowing maybe

859
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: when you get closer to OTA's right, you put him

860
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: through Rookie Mini caamp, and then when you get him

861
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: out there with the veterans, it's okay, is he drowning

862
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: or is he you know, staying above water? Rookie Mini

863
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 3: camp is it's a lot about just adjusting. The rookies

864
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: haven't even been in the building yet, so when they're here,

865
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: it's Thursday, Friday, Saturday of this week. It's about physicals

866
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: and getting your footing of where everything is in the

867
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: building right, where are you going for meeting rooms, what

868
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: is the schedule going to look like, and then what

869
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: the expectations are, expectations in the weight room and the

870
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: meeting room, out on the field, what you're doing at home,

871
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: what you're putting into your body. It's kind of getting

872
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: everything at once and getting assimilated and to meet the

873
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 3: draft class that way. When I believe it's the following week,

874
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 3: OTA's is it two weeks later?

875
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: I think we got another week after this one.

876
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: When when you're out there mixing with the veterans and

877
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: by that point, that to me is where you can

878
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: really tell, Okay, who is getting a grasp on the playbook,

879
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: who is understanding what is going to be asked of them.

880
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: They might not know everything perfectly right now, but you

881
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 3: can tell that they are working to that point.

882
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 4: Rookie Minnie camp is tremendously different, Paul, from when we

883
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 4: used to when we covered it once upon a time,

884
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: it used to be a true mini camp that used

885
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 4: to be out there for a number of praices. You'd

886
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 4: have not only all the rookies. But you'd have a

887
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: number of you know, inexperienced players out here and a

888
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: bunch of trial people and you'd be running eleven on eleven.

889
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: That's not what Jonathan gannon amanias for it, liked to do.

890
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: There's a couple of extra people, but for the most part,

891
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 4: it is just what Danny said. It's it's about acclimation

892
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: and is not about getting on the field. They will

893
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: get on the field next week. They can be part

894
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: of the Phase two stuff, which is a step below

895
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: OTAs and they can start doing that after Rookie Mini

896
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: Camp is over and then OTA start and that's when

897
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 4: you can start figuring out, you know, where they really fit.

898
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 4: But rookie Mini camp now is again just what Danny said,

899
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 4: is it's about learning how to what it's going to

900
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 4: be like to be a pro on a daily basis

901
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 4: rather than any kind of real practice.

902
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: And dare I say with this draft class, you really

903
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: want to see how they process the playbook as well. Yes,

904
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: especially like a Cody Simon. You know, how much is

905
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: he swimming, is he getting a good grass? Is he

906
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: getting initial traction in the playbook? You know, Hayden Connor Okay,

907
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: intriguing as an offensive lineman, how complex is this offense

908
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: compared to Texas? And so that'll just be a it

909
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: will be an indication as to where they are mentally

910
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: with the playbook. Because first thing you have to do

911
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: is you have to gain the trust to your coaches

912
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: before you ever get out on the field. And then,

913
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: of course, if you, you know, are responsible for any

914
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: sort of poor behavior, that can really you know, work

915
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: against gaining trust, which brings us that's our segue, hand

916
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: handed as it is for winning behavior this week.

917
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 5: Can you display winning behavior? You have to consistently display

918
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 5: winning behavior.

919
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: That's winning behavior.

920
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 5: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

921
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 5: people to that standard.

922
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: Yes, who's batting lead off? Here?

923
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: I can bat lead off if you?

924
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: Okay, for here we go, Darren, I have to.

925
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 4: Bring this up. I noticed this, Paul. I noticed you

926
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: don't use the Clorox wipes as much as you once did.

927
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: That is true, you're absolutely right.

928
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: But I saw this story that said, even after everything

929
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 4: that we've gone through in the pandemic and the resulting

930
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: rules that everybody was again reiterated upon about how much

931
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: and how often and when you're supposed to be washing

932
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 4: your hands. That apparently nearly half the respondents of their

933
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 4: survey still forget or choose not to wash their hand

934
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 4: at key times, such as after visiting grocery stores, restaurants,

935
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 4: coffee shops, and healthcare settings including a doctor's office or hospital,

936
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 4: and oftentimes it's forgetting. But twenty percent of the surveyed

937
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 4: people actively choose not to wash their hands, some thinking

938
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: the practice wasn't necessary, they don't have the time, or

939
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 4: they didn't want to dry out their hands.

940
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 3: Who did the survey?

941
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: I don't have in front of me, but it was

942
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: somebody important.

943
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: We did not want to dry out your hands.

944
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: That is the most disgusting thing.

945
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: It's the epitome of indolence right there? Are How lazy

946
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: are we people? You don't want to dry your hands? Really?

947
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, it's just it's it's so gross if

948
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: you're not washing your hands after you're touching sweaty gym

949
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 3: equipment when like the amount of people who don't wipe

950
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 3: down the equipment is done, you're not washing your hands

951
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: after you're going to the grocery store and touching produce

952
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: that everyone else has picked up and put back down

953
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: like it just discussed. It almost makes you wonder, do

954
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 3: you trust go into a potluck and people cooking in

955
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: their kitchens not knowing if they're washing your hands.

956
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: There's a reason why buffets shut down during the pandemic.

957
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, people.

958
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 4: Look there's still people out there that. Okay, I'm not

959
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: going to go there. No. Now we're going to get political,

960
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: and then we're it's going to be like it's a

961
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: slippery slope. Okay, but not washing your hands as a

962
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 4: gateway drug in some ways to some thought process.

963
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: Speaking of slope, did you hear about the Mount Fuji story?

964
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: I can't say I have a climber was rescued twice

965
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: in one week from Japan's Mount Fuji. Twenty seven year

966
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: old tried to make the climb, had to be airlifted out,

967
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: couldn't make it, got sick. A few days later, realized

968
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 2: couldn't find his phone, no no way, decided to scale

969
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: Mount Fuji again in search of his phone, and once

970
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: again he had to be rescued. What twice in one week?

971
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 4: Okay, when you started that story, for sure you're gonna

972
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 4: say he got sick, but he was going to think

973
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: it was a one off and I've got to conquer

974
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 4: Mount Fuji. You're going up there to look for your phone?

975
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: That's what I thought. I thought, Mount Fuji is not

976
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: going to get the best of me. I'm gonna climb

977
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 2: that mountain. Literally, that would have been bad enough. Instead

978
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: of was dude, where's my phone? And I probably left

979
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 2: it at the top of Mount Fuji. Ah, I forget

980
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: about the fact I was there, lifted there three days ago.

981
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 2: Let's try it again.

982
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: That is not only not winning behavior that I hope

983
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: he has to repay them every single penny of the

984
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: costs of doing that.

985
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: I used to do a segment called Dude Factor. That

986
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: would definitely be a dude right there. What else do

987
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: we have here? I'm looking, Oh, Miszoo journalism, Danny, this

988
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: one's for you.

989
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: How about that the Kentucky Derby the winner circle. Did

990
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 3: you see the man right front and center behind the

991
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: owner of sovereignty wearing his Mazoo journalism hat, which was

992
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: a bit of a sting because journalism the horse came

993
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: in second place, but hey, tigers were everywhere.

994
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: If they would have been wearing a cronkite hat, would

995
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 4: you have mentioned it?

996
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: No, because you would have been obnoxious about it.

997
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have seen it. I didn't watch the Kentucky Debrie.

998
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: Usually the Lakers qualify as obnoxious. Yes, that's true, except

999
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: when Luka Doncic does something to save the day, not

1000
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: the series. He couldn't save the series. He's out of

1001
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: shape in the opening round in the playoffs. By the way,

1002
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: how out of shape do you have to be for

1003
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: your head coach to call you out in a press

1004
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: conference the season? Any press conference when you've only been

1005
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 2: in town two months.

1006
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 4: I was imagining Nico Harrison.

1007
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 2: So anyway, I was not aware of this story. Somebody

1008
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: vandalized the Kobe and Gigi Bryant merl in downtown LA.

1009
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 4: Before we get to Luka Doncic. Why would somebody do that?

1010
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: That's like somebody it was. There was a statue in

1011
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 4: Kansas City. I think of Jackie Robinson or Mike that

1012
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 4: got like like why what do you?

1013
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

1014
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 4: But anyways, sorry.

1015
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: So anyway, Luca donated the funds necessary to restore the mural.

1016
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: That's cool, and so.

1017
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: That is well early world. I do like that, And.

1018
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: I mean when you have the when you have the means,

1019
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 2: like a Luka Doncrich does financially. To me, that's got

1020
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: to be arguably the best aspect of being that wealthy. Right,

1021
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: you can step in and do the right thing because

1022
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: you have the means to be able to do that something.

1023
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: It's so meaningful to everyone else, and you're the one

1024
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: who can come in and sort of be responsible for it.

1025
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: That's hopefully that's really gratifying for him, and it's just

1026
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: start of what he'll do, you know, going forward, because yeah,

1027
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: he can afford it, there's no doubt about it. Okay,

1028
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 2: all right, so there you go. I'm looking here. So

1029
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: DC is getting the draft in twenty twenty seven? Is

1030
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: Phoenix even in the mix? Is the asy? Are we

1031
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: even being talked about it all for a draft?

1032
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 4: I have not seen that because Number one, it feels

1033
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 4: like they try and focus draft sites on place is

1034
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 4: that probably wouldn't get a super Bowl because the weather

1035
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: is such good points.

1036
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: Weren't you out there? You said it was hot at

1037
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: the draft part.

1038
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 4: That's the other problem.

1039
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: No, I was not whining. I don't whin. I was

1040
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: not griping and grousing. It's been a lot hotter in

1041
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: years past. But yeah, it knows all right, as soon

1042
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: as the sun went down, though. It was perfect, absolutely perfect.

1043
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 4: I think I think ultimately, uh yeah, the Draft will

1044
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: go to play for the most part. I know I

1045
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: went to Vegas ones. I think for the most part,

1046
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 4: they want to have the Draft in places that couldn't

1047
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 4: normally get a Super Bowl. Yeah, that's that's kind of

1048
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 4: my thing, and and it will be interesting to see

1049
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: in DC. There's some of the things I'd like to

1050
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 4: say about that whole thing, but I'm gonna refrain. But

1051
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I do think it'll be kind of a

1052
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: cool setting. And uh, it definitely caught the eye a

1053
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: little bit more than some other Like I'll be honest,

1054
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 4: I had to look up that next year's was in Pittsburgh.

1055
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 4: I didn't even know it.

1056
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: Was in Pittsburgh City with what is it, five hundred

1057
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 3: bridges something by the way.

1058
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. It's a good place to visit.

1059
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: Can I a little bit of a rant about the

1060
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: Draft twenty twenty five? A little bit we're still seeing,

1061
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: especially on NFL dot Com, the Cardinals Draft is being

1062
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: portrayed as MANIASI fort took big swings quote end quote.

1063
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: Austin Ford swung from the heels is another story. A

1064
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,959
Speaker 2: z rolled the dice. Really is that that that's really

1065
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: the narrative that Cardinals took such a huge swing on

1066
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: a Will Johnson at forty seven, or the character concerns

1067
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: were such that Walter Nolan qualifies as a swing from

1068
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: the heels at sixteen.

1069
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 4: That's really narrative until it's not. I mean again, that's

1070
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 4: what everybody's gonna run with, and that's fine, and then

1071
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 4: everybody gets a chance to throw in their faces.

1072
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, because.

1073
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 4: I'm sure all these people will write mea culpa's just

1074
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: as big as the original headliners.

1075
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay. I'm sort of sad though, I can't

1076
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: use the word balder dash until until all the mock

1077
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: drafts come out next year.

1078
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 4: You know, sure you could find a place to sort

1079
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 4: of like my flannel shirt.

1080
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: I have to go ahead and you know, pack it up,

1081
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: put in a box up in the closet, you know,

1082
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: balderdash and the flannel shirt, you know, just won't be

1083
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: seen again until once the weather cools off.

1084
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Speaker 4: Are you a shorts guy, Paul?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I'm just gonna let you guys know

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Speaker 2: right now my new term. As long as we're throwing

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00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 2: around terms and narratives. My new term for the forty

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00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: nine ers, I'm going to use the economic term stagflation

1089
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers, slow growth, rising prices. Forty

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00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 2: nine ers, What do you guys think about that sort

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00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to.

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Speaker 4: I saw some I saw some graund that'll stick based

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00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: on and not based on last year's winners.

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00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: Considering leaving the Nests lasted all four minutes to almost

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00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: came up with a better Moniker.

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00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 4: Not but based on the chances of wins for going

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00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 4: into the season, not necessarily based on last year's winning percentage.

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Speaker 4: Boat what these teams are expected to do this year?

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Speaker 4: The forty nine ers have by far the easiest schedule

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Speaker 4: in the league.

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Speaker 2: Really, yes, o'kay?

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00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 4: In the league, not just the NFC West.

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Speaker 2: Can I say though, when we look at the Cardinal schedule,

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00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: because it's very similar obviously to the Nights it is,

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00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: I mean the Cardinals schedule knock on wood, Yes, doesn't

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00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: look so daunting.

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00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 4: No, But again the problem is is you give the

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00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 4: forty nine ers two games against what was.

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00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: It the fourth Bears and the Browns.

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Speaker 4: Now the Bears might be a lot better.

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00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: Who knows the Browns have Joe Flacco.

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00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: One of five quarterbacks right now.

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00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 4: And I think this is I think this might be

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00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 4: the first podcast in like a month that we haven't

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00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 4: mentioned a certain quarterback.

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00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: So now that Hard Knocks has said see you to

1117
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: North Carolina, what a story that is? What about the

1118
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: Browns quarterback room that that should really should be the

1119
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 2: next destination for Hard Knocks, Come on the quarterback quarnerback.

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Speaker 3: I think I think they might be waiting outside Pittsburgh

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00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: to see what might happen there before they probably make

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00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 3: a final decision.

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Speaker 4: Could be my Tobum might vomit if he got Aaron

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00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 4: Rodgers and Hard Knocks cameras at the same time. Wait,

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00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 4: they just did Hard Knocks in Pittsburgh. They just did

1126
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: the ind season in the AFC North, so they won't

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Speaker 4: do it again.

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Speaker 2: I'll leave you with this. Walter Nolan didn't answer our

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Speaker 2: question as to which quarterback you would like to sack

1130
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: the most, So then Wolf and I did a powerpole

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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks you would like to see Walter Nolan sack.

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Speaker 4: Well, it can't be if Aaron Rodgers goes to Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 4: it can't be him.

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Speaker 2: Work with me, just Oky forget the schedule. Okay, work

1135
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 2: Daron taking it literally again, the whole NFL is wide open.

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00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: I went with Gino Smith. I went with Russell Wilson,

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00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: just done his past Seahawk days. I went with Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 2: So you're seeing a trend there.

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Speaker 4: This is where Paul holds all his grudging in.

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Speaker 2: Any Seahawk connections. I'm trying to think of the fourth one,

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00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: but number one.

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Speaker 5: Was Eric.

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00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 4: He's actually back in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Jim Zorn was not on the list, and then the

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was number one. You know, America, America would

1146
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: like to see Walter Nolan the third sack. Aaron Rodgers, come.

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00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: On Rogers with our come on with our record that

1148
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: we did of teams. How he screwed me over. Speaking

1149
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 3: of the AFC North, it is a bummer we didn't

1150
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: have getting culture because I have thoughts on what Joe

1151
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 3: Burrow wore to the Macala, and they're not friendly thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I was disappointed.

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Speaker 3: Next week, yeah, but at that point it's all news.

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Speaker 2: Was that the double breasted suit jacket that I saw was.

1155
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 3: That there were a couple NFL players. DeAndre Hopkins was

1156
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: there justin Jefferson Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying a small prayer to the fashion gods.

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Speaker 2: Please don't let the double breast.

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Speaker 3: What's his name, Jonathan Owen? He was there.

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Speaker 4: Don't get almost started.

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00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: Next year, I'm going to loan Joe Burrow my Finnel shirt.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 4: Will you wear it?

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Speaker 2: And why am I looking at the camera? Looking at

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Speaker 2: the camera? Why am I looking at the camera when

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00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: there's no camera to say goodbye? Fantastic see once again

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Speaker 2: full circle. Here's my crying Jordan meme for he had

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Speaker 2: another valid reason on this edition of Cardinals Underground brought

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