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Speaker 1: Welcome back in our number two Thursday edition Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show Hoopaul of you are having fantastic Thursdays

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Speaker 1: as we roll into what should be a fun weekend

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Speaker 1: finally February over. Maybe weather's starting to get a little

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Speaker 1: bit better wherever you are as we roll into March.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it is still very cold where we're about

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Speaker 1: to head next up to Maine, where State Representative Laurel

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Speaker 1: Libby has been fighting a battle that I think most

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Speaker 1: of you who are listening to us in Maine will

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Speaker 1: agree with, and certainly the vast majority of you listen

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Speaker 1: listening nationwide will agree with as well. Laurel, Your governor

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Speaker 1: was Janet Mills, I believe, on Friday, directly confronted by

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Speaker 1: President Trump over whether she was going to continue to

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Speaker 1: allow men who identify as women to be competing in

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Speaker 1: women's sporting events. She said she was. She said she

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Speaker 1: was going to sue Trump. You've been fighting back against

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Speaker 1: this absurdity. What is the latest on the ground in

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Speaker 1: Maine and what has happened to you for being as

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Speaker 1: outspoken in favor of a crazy idea men should compete

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Speaker 1: against men and women should compete against women.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, thanks for having me on today. You know,

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Speaker 2: Governor Mills is completely out of touch with her constituency.

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Speaker 2: The vast majority of manors do not agree with her

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Speaker 2: extremist viewpoint that biological meals should be paying female sus.

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Speaker 2: They support comment and ensuring females takes and level playing fields,

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Speaker 2: and so most folks are quite disappointed to see Governor

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Speaker 2: Mills having this standoff with President Trump when he's simply

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Speaker 2: speaking up and standing up for main girls where our

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Speaker 2: governor should be. Frankly, I have been now censured for

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Speaker 2: my views because of a post that I made on Facebook,

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Speaker 2: and my right to vote constituents and speak on the

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Speaker 2: floor is now has now been as of this week

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Speaker 2: because of speaking out for me and girls.

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Speaker 3: Well, Laurel, let's get into what exactly happened here my understanding.

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Speaker 3: Our understanding is that you posted on Facebook last week

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Speaker 3: showing a trans student, so a man or a young

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Speaker 3: man or whatever winning a female state championship pole vaulting competition.

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Speaker 3: So oh, here was this is the quote, I believe

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Speaker 3: another day, another instance of an unremarkable biological male athlete

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Speaker 3: who couldn't win against other males dominating girls' sports. That

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Speaker 3: is a statement of largely at least a statement of fact.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they could say there's some aspect

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Speaker 3: of opinion in there, but that's also protected by the

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Speaker 3: First Amendment. What are you being censured for? What is

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Speaker 3: the problem according to the people who think you need

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's not even the post I'm being

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Speaker 2: censured for. The post I'm being censured for was on

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Speaker 2: Facebook and its simply highlighted that John had won fifth

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Speaker 2: place at a regional competition last year, and that as

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Speaker 2: Katie this year he won the state championship. He last

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Speaker 2: participated as a male as a young man last year

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Speaker 2: in June, and now this February he's winning a state

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Speaker 2: championship as a quote unquote girl. It is absolutely, completely,

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Speaker 2: without question, completely unfair. He has displaced biological females from

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Speaker 2: their rightful place at the top of that podium. And

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Speaker 2: the left are incredibly angry that this has been pointed

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Speaker 2: out and that everyone in Maine and across the country

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Speaker 2: can see that the emperor has no clothes and that

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Speaker 2: this is absolutely going on in our state and they

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Speaker 2: think it's unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: So let's go into this In particular, Trump lost the

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Speaker 1: state of Maine by seven points on a political basis.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, he won one electoral vote in

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Speaker 1: the northern part of the state. Because Maine divides its

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Speaker 1: electoral votes. What percentage you live in Maine. We've taken

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Speaker 1: a lot of calls from people in Maine, gotten a

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Speaker 1: lot of reaction. What percentage of the residence of the

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Speaker 1: state of Maine do you think agree with virtually everything

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Speaker 1: that you are saying.

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Speaker 2: I think that Maine follows the national eighty percent polling.

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Speaker 2: And I say that because I've had so much outreach

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Speaker 2: about this because this is an issue where Augusta Democrats,

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Speaker 2: those in power are outliers. I think from what I'm

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Speaker 2: seeing that by and large, Maine Democrats at ordinary, everyday

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Speaker 2: manors follow these national trends, this eighty twenty where sixty

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Speaker 2: three percent of Democrats you know, ninety some percent of Republicans.

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Speaker 2: I think we follow on those lines twenty issue in

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Speaker 2: I am a Democrat.

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Speaker 3: You are right or speaking to Maine State Representative Laurel Libby.

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Speaker 3: And Laurel, let me ask you, why do you think

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Speaker 3: the governor of your state, apart from the ideological adherence

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Are there donors or big NGOs or something that are

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Speaker 3: just seems to your point, it's an eighty twenty issue.

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Speaker 3: It's rather straightforward. The photo you shared of the bilock.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a man, Okay, it's a young man

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Speaker 3: competing against women. Anyone can see this and realize it

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Speaker 3: is absurd and it's wrong. So is there any outside

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Speaker 3: reason or any external reason beyond ideology that is making

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Speaker 3: the in your opinion, making the governor of Maine take

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Speaker 3: this bizarre position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's multifactorial. It's certainly catering

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Speaker 2: to their base, which I think is a political error

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Speaker 2: on their part because they're so off. But I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that they just don't think that they can lose,

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Speaker 2: and that's the thing they've gotten really cocky, because you know,

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Speaker 2: Governor Mills is in six years now and has another

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Speaker 2: two years in this second term, and the Democrats have

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Speaker 2: maintained a majority for those six years, despite the fact

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Speaker 2: that they are flushing me in down the toilet. This

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Speaker 2: is far from the only extreme policy that has been

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Speaker 2: passed in our state, but this is the first time

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Speaker 2: that I've seen such a significant awakening to how extreme

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Speaker 2: their policies are. And Governor Mills is not used to

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Speaker 2: being challenged by anyone who has the power to actually

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Speaker 2: take action, so this is the first time she is

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Speaker 2: facing our significant challenger to the tyranny going on in

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Speaker 2: our state. I think there's multiple factors at play here,

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Speaker 2: but I think one of those is just a feeling

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Speaker 2: proven very wrong.

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Speaker 1: Would you ever believe, Laurel, that we would have a

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Speaker 1: situation where the Democrat Party would basically support men who

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Speaker 1: are identifying as women being able to compete in women's sports,

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Speaker 1: and Republicans would say, hey, we don't do this, and

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Speaker 1: to your point, this is not really a political issue.

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Speaker 1: Sixty seven percent of Democrats agree with that statement, seventy

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Speaker 1: nine percent. As you mentioned earlier, this according to the

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Speaker 1: New York Times of people nationwide, ninety four percent of Republicans.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to get eighty percent of people to agree

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Speaker 1: on anything. We've got eighty percent agreement here. There's a

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Speaker 1: vote coming up on the Senate floor Monday. Senator John

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Speaker 1: Thune's office just sent me a message to make us aware.

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Speaker 1: They wanted me to share with the audience that they

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Speaker 1: in the Senate that has already passed the House. Isn't

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Speaker 1: this just basic common sense, Laurel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is just basic common sense. But you know,

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Speaker 2: the main Democrat party is not known for common sense.

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Speaker 2: So let's make that really clear. They don't have an

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Speaker 2: abundance of that. It's in short supply here in Maine.

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Speaker 2: And so it does not surprise me at all that

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Speaker 2: we are here because they are out of touch with

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Speaker 2: their manor with fellow maynors in so many other ways

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Speaker 2: as well. This is just the most recent illustration of it.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any interest? Oh, go ahead, Claig, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say, do you have any

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Speaker 1: sense on how Susan Collins comes down on this? Because

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Speaker 1: she's up for reelection in twenty twenty six, and that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest statewide battle. I would imagine that will happen

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Speaker 1: in the near future. Has she reached out any of

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Speaker 1: thinks about this debate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've seen her quoted in speaking up

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Speaker 2: that girl sports should should be for girls and not

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Speaker 2: biological males. I believe that she was also quoted saying

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Speaker 2: that it's a state issue, so you know, walking that

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Speaker 3: Do you have any interest in running for governor yourself?

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Speaker 3: At some point sounds like this might be a good

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Speaker 2: I've certainly been hearing that question a lot, But right

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Speaker 2: now my focus is on main girls and their rights,

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Speaker 2: which are being absolutely trampled in our states. But I

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Speaker 2: think we have a window of opportunity here, thanks to

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Speaker 2: some point in the near future. It won't happen because

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Speaker 2: of state intervention. That's absolutely one hundred percent in my book,

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Speaker 2: but I have hope that thanks to the administration, we

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Speaker 1: Changed outstanding stuff.

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Speaker 5: Laurel.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you reaching out. Laurel Libby State Rep. In

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Speaker 1: Maine fighting for basic common sense when it comes to

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Speaker 1: women's sports related issues. Laurel, we appreciate the time and

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We mentioned this before,

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Speaker 3: but might be worth getting into in some more detail.

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Speaker 3: At my former home agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, it's

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Speaker 3: a long time ago, and it was a very different

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Speaker 3: place then. I will have you know, very different ethos

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Speaker 3: post Obama years within the intelligence community. I think you

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Speaker 3: of time within the IC. I think Trump had to

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Speaker 3: deal with the aftermath and ramifications that. Remember Trump comes

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Speaker 3: into office in twenty sixteen and they were already coming

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Speaker 3: after it, right, So it was set in place in

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Speaker 3: the Obama years, and I think it was transformed and

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Speaker 3: the transformation was occurring then. Anyway, you have a number

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Speaker 3: of people now I think over one hundred who have

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Speaker 3: been fired because they were writing crazy stuff. This is

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Speaker 3: Chris Rufo, hatship, Chris Rufo once again finding the information

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Speaker 3: the evidence needed to bring to light what's really going on.

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Speaker 3: And Clay they were talking about stuff. I had to

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Speaker 3: And also I think polluting these these institutions with crazy ideas.

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Speaker 5: How many other uh, you know, trans lunatics are running

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Speaker 1: All right, we talked about the Washington Post and Jeff

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Speaker 1: Bezos having in some way a moment of recognition that

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Speaker 1: know if you read this article, Buck, but there were reports.

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Speaker 1: We know Bezos was at the inauguration. We know Bezos's girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: And Buck the reporters out there that Bezos called Trump

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Speaker 1: Doug Bergham set up the call between Bezos and Trump

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Speaker 1: So there are reports that Bezos reached out to Trump

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Speaker 1: That's all he said. Buck. Here is Marty Baron losing

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Speaker 8: Only his point of view is going to be represented

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Speaker 8: It says that, no, the only opinion that is permitted

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Speaker 1: All right, I ran until I sold out, kickbuck out.

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Speaker 1: Kick Jeff Bezos paid two hundred and fifty million dollars

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Speaker 1: to buy the Washington Post. He should be, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: intimately involved in setting the agenda for that newspaper. That

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Speaker 1: is an anti democratic that's pro capitalism. When you own

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Speaker 1: a company, the very foundation of owning a company is

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Speaker 1: you set the agenda. I I the idea that you

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Speaker 1: would and I give credit to Bezos for finally stepping forward, buck,

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Speaker 1: but the idea that you would employ a thousand journalist

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Speaker 1: of them when they're upset about the trajectory you want

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Speaker 1: to take the business. Excuse me, he's the owner of

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Speaker 1: the company. If you don't like it, leave all right.

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Speaker 1: Like this is where I got Bezos's back one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: This is there's a common thread here that goes through

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Speaker 3: And the threat is these are supposed to be objective,

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Speaker 3: neutral spaces. This is what they tell us. They tell

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Speaker 3: us that these are objective and neutral spaces, neutral politically, right,

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Speaker 3: And I know that that's laughable, but I'll just let

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Speaker 3: me finish. They tell us this while we know that

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Speaker 3: they are completely dominated by one side politically and have

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Speaker 3: become little fiefdoms of that political party. But there's always

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Speaker 5: Not oh, I'm just a journalist, man, I'm just reporting facts.

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Speaker 5: Like we're just all about free expression. Washington posts about

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Speaker 5: free expression. Where were they when Facebook was censoring and

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Speaker 5: Twitter was censoring all intelligent commentary about COVID?

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Speaker 3: Where were there editorials saying that that was an absolute

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Speaker 3: betrayal of the first moment. That's shutting down churches was

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Speaker 3: an absolute betrayal the first. These people are clowns. They

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Speaker 3: live in some alternate universe. They might as well think

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Speaker 3: that they're in North Korea. As far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 3: They are completely delusional. And this guy, what he's saying

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Speaker 3: have pushed an agenda, and now Jeff Bezos is just

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Speaker 3: trying to push it back toward the center a little bit,

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Speaker 1: Which is exactly what an owner should do. And the

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Speaker 1: whole purpose of having ownership of something is you are

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Speaker 1: speak out about it. I look, this is what I've

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Speaker 1: Buck is, just try to return the paper to some

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you or I is going to

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't get to the opinion page, and every opinion

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be America sucks and capitalism is awful and Trump

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Speaker 1: is literally hitler. I'm sorry, that's not a business I

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Speaker 1: would want to run. And I I tend to break

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Speaker 1: from a lot of people in even in the media

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Speaker 1: on this issue. I mean, if you go back to

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Speaker 1: go back and you know, read about like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Independent Chronicle, look at these different uh,

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Speaker 1: you know papers at the time of the Founding they

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Speaker 1: were in favor of certain candidates, in favor of a

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Speaker 1: You know, anyone can have a printing press more or less,

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Speaker 1: air waves to TV. In the twentieth century is when

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Speaker 1: we came up with this idea. And it's really post

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Speaker 1: World War two, of there's an objective news media, Walter Cronkite,

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Speaker 1: we can trust this is there a bunch of libs.

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Speaker 3: This was the Brown University faculty lounge, pretending that they

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Speaker 3: don't have an opinion while they're presenting the news to you. Now,

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Speaker 3: it has gotten worse over the last twenty years, it's

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Speaker 3: gotten more obvious. But it was never objective. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is I just think everybody's understand that was always

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Speaker 3: a fiction. Was totally a fiction.

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Speaker 1: You know what, it was a really lucrative fiction because

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Speaker 1: if you study the history of American media, the reason

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Speaker 1: why they started saying, hey, we're going to do all

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Speaker 1: New York Times was because you could sell way more

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Speaker 3: There's also an advantage. It's like claiming you're an expert

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Speaker 3: when you're giving testimony in court. Right all this person's

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Speaker 3: an expert. They have to be waited more thoroughly, more

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Speaker 3: strongly in whatever they say. The journals, the journal industrial

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Speaker 3: complex has done this thing New York Times, Washington Post, CNN,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. They've done this thing where they try to

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Speaker 3: while constantly beating the propaganda drum.

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Speaker 1: And it's more effective. That's why they do it.

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Speaker 3: It also means that they don't have to deal with

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Speaker 3: people like you and me, or at least not the

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Speaker 3: same way arguing with them, because they say, we're just reporting.

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Speaker 3: We're just reporting, we're not actually making editorial decisions. And

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Speaker 3: as you and I both know well and I've talked about,

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Speaker 3: it's critical. The biggest editorial decision is what you talk about.

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Speaker 3: That's bigger even than how you talk about it and

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Speaker 3: your assessments and your analysis, what you do and what

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Speaker 3: you don't think is important, important enough to spend your

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Speaker 3: time on and spend your platform on. That's the biggest,

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Speaker 3: single one. And so the notion that any of these

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Speaker 3: places we're doing anything other than propaganda for for decades

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Speaker 3: is just a fantasy. And I'm glad the fantasy has

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Speaker 3: been shattered. Which is also why I think the White

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Speaker 3: of of you know, imbeciles decide who gets access to

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Speaker 4: that for five ten years, and then come back and

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Speaker 4: run for office, and you have real world experience. And

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Speaker 4: I thought, wow, that is spot on and really shows

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Speaker 4: me a lot of what's going on today.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point, and Buck, you and I have

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Speaker 1: hammered this. I would love if everybody who represented us

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Speaker 1: in Congress or in the Senate, or in our respective

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Speaker 1: governor's offices had done something that is a normal person existence,

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Speaker 1: had had some success in life and was trying to

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Speaker 1: give back, not to be a permanent politician forever. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of permanent politicians, and that's on us.

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Speaker 1: When we come back. Get Spicy on the show, Ryan

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Speaker 1: Gerdusky thinks I'm a moron for my five million take

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Speaker 1: on immigration. We'll talk