WEBVTT - Single Best Idea with Tom Keene: Abby Joseph Cohen

0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:18.119
<v Speaker 2>An extraordinary set of days. This is a single best

0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:22.200
<v Speaker 2>idea with two of what could be fourteen vignettes today.

0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Abby Joseph Cohen was at Goldman Sachs and developed so

0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.400
<v Speaker 2>much for the CFA Institute. Full disclosure, I'm a member.

0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.680
<v Speaker 2>She's now teaching at Columbia Business School. And to have

0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Jean Beauvain of Canada and Blackrock with us, to have

0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Carl Weinberg of high frequency economics and all he did

0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.680
<v Speaker 2>at Lehman over the years, Barbara Reinhart Avoya, and on

0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.279
<v Speaker 2>and on. I thought David Gerrow was fascinating about what

0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:50.800
<v Speaker 2>we would see tonight at the Joint Session of Congress.

0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:56.560
<v Speaker 2>But Abby Joseph Cohen was piercing in her critique. I

0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.520
<v Speaker 2>alluded to what Kevin Gordon of SCHWAB said, which is, well,

0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.840
<v Speaker 2>this gets a back to the nineteen forties. Many people

0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:07.240
<v Speaker 2>will say to the nineteen thirties. Abby Joseph Cohen disagrees.

0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.559
<v Speaker 3>It's not going back to the nineteen thirties. It's going

0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:17.080
<v Speaker 3>back to the nineteenth century. Tariff based economy is something

0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.399
<v Speaker 3>that didn't work then didn't work in the nineteen thirties,

0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.000
<v Speaker 3>and I think it's very dangerous. You know, you have

0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:27.600
<v Speaker 3>had other guests on who have talked about quantifying the impact,

0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:32.640
<v Speaker 3>which will be very substantial if in fact these tariffs hold.

0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.000
<v Speaker 3>And it's not just the US tariffs on our best

0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.200
<v Speaker 3>neighbors and best trading partners, but also what they decide

0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:46.000
<v Speaker 3>to do. I'll use the word to reciprocate, but this

0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:51.560
<v Speaker 3>is a very difficult situation. Obviously. The thing that is

0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:56.080
<v Speaker 3>somewhat odd about this and different from what was seen

0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.640
<v Speaker 3>in previous periods of history, is these are tariffs being

0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:05.360
<v Speaker 3>levy on our friends, and the blowback, the damage economically

0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:10.840
<v Speaker 3>can actually be extremely severe on our own economy, even

0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:16.520
<v Speaker 3>without the so called pushback and reciprocal nature.

0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Just some of the data that we try to dig

0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:24.040
<v Speaker 2>up today, little anecdotal like Nebraska, what does Nebraska do

0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:29.880
<v Speaker 2>with China? It's overwhelming. The China business that Lincoln, Nebraska

0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.119
<v Speaker 2>over to Coosad and onto Carne and what they do,

0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:37.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just absolutely overwhelming. I learned a lot ready for this, folks,

0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.320
<v Speaker 2>It's not chicken feet, They're called chicken paws. I guess

0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.840
<v Speaker 2>that sounds better or whatever. The business in American chicken

0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:51.560
<v Speaker 2>feet going abroad. My fancy word is ginormous. All these

0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.160
<v Speaker 2>little things that all of a sudden are under threat.

0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Just interesting seeing of course we picked up on a

0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.800
<v Speaker 2>gilded age idea there with the abbey. We then spoke

0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.120
<v Speaker 2>to Abby Joseph Cohen about any things, including the resiliency

0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to be in the markets. We heard that from Barbara

0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Reinherd Atvoya as well. I thought Jay Bowen and Bowen

0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Haines Florida was just brilliant. Basically said shut up and

0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.919
<v Speaker 2>buy as the way I would put it. But there's

0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't enough talk about the FED. Here's Abby Joseph Cohen

0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.480
<v Speaker 2>and the FED in Jerome Powell.

0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Mister Powell and the other members of the FOMC need

0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.640
<v Speaker 3>to be doing what they have been doing, and that

0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.760
<v Speaker 3>is to focus on the data and to keep in

0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:40.200
<v Speaker 3>mind the dual mandate of inflation but also employment. And

0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.280
<v Speaker 3>one of the things that has been terrific throughout the

0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Biden administration has been this ongoing creation of jobs and

0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.320
<v Speaker 3>then the increase in the average wage adjusted for inflation

0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:56.280
<v Speaker 3>for the America American family. They will be watching at

0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:00.120
<v Speaker 3>the FED whether that good news continues. If we see

0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.320
<v Speaker 3>in erosion in the labor markets. If we see an

0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:07.440
<v Speaker 3>erosion in wages adjusted for inflation, I think at that

0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.720
<v Speaker 3>point they're going to need to adjust the policy and

0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:15.840
<v Speaker 3>provide some stimulus to basically offset some of these policy

0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:17.599
<v Speaker 3>decisions coming out of the White House.

0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.479
<v Speaker 2>Emma Joseph Cohen, the Columbia Business School. We will continue

0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.920
<v Speaker 2>to work on the set of stories now as a

0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.680
<v Speaker 2>president speaks tonight. The Joint Session, of course, will be

0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:32.039
<v Speaker 2>with you tomorrow to pick up the pieces. On your

0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.559
<v Speaker 2>commute across the nation on Applecarplay, Android Auto, Good Morning

0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.760
<v Speaker 2>on Serious XM channel one twenty one across the corridor

0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:44.560
<v Speaker 2>from ninety two NINEFM Boston to nine point one in Washington.

0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.719
<v Speaker 2>On YouTube, subscribe to Bloomberg Podcasts and I must say

0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.919
<v Speaker 2>good evening to all listening in India on YouTube podcast.

0:04:53.040 --> 0:05:02.400
<v Speaker 2>This is single best idea seven