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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 2: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling Railvalry.

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Speaker 1: No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth, revelry.

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Speaker 2: That's good. Oliver Hudson here reporting live from Sibling Revelry Radio.

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Speaker 2: This is no longer a podcast. This is a radio station.

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Speaker 2: I've changed my whole fucking voice. Welcome to w k

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Speaker 2: RB Sibling Revelry Radio. We play all the hits and

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Speaker 2: all the cuts, no if snow ans, and no butts.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Let's start it off with a little

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Speaker 2: Oasis Wonderwall kick it. Oh sorry, our fucking music doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: Let me just talk then. I don't know what I

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Speaker 2: just did, but I just did it. That's kind of

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Speaker 2: my motto in life. I don't know what I just did,

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Speaker 2: but I just did it. You know what, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: put that on a T shirt, actually on on my phone,

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Speaker 2: and I'm doing this as we speak. You can see this,

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Speaker 2: hear this in real time. I have on my notes,

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Speaker 2: I have like a list of all kinds of crazy

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Speaker 2: T shirt ideas. I would read them off, but I

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Speaker 2: don't want anyone to steal them because I'm going to

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Speaker 2: create an online store and sell these. Hold on right

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Speaker 2: here we go. I don't know what I just did,

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Speaker 2: but I just did it. Boom, billion dollar idea right there. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: it's me, oh double lie the number one MC and

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Speaker 2: we're just kicking it. We're in Colorado. It's a bit

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Speaker 2: of a gloomy day, but it's about to get much

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Speaker 2: brighter because my boy, my friend. I've actually worked with

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Speaker 2: this man before. He's extremely funny, he's borderline iconic and uh,

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Speaker 2: he's got a cool ass movie coming out with Christina

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Speaker 2: Reached called Guns Up. I haven't seen it, saw the trailer.

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Speaker 2: It looks amazing. My boy, Kevin James is here and

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Speaker 2: we get to talk about his life, his brother is

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Speaker 2: growing up, how he became so funny, and what it's

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Speaker 2: like talking to me, which is the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: So without further it's bringing keV. What's happening, man? How

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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good? How about you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good. I'm in Colorado and where my

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Speaker 2: sundown room?

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Speaker 3: Yeah you're not in Colorado, man, you have to go.

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Speaker 2: Something I've got decorating issues if I'm not in Colorado. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I'm on the floor of my kid's room because

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Speaker 2: it's such a packed house. I got to find a

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Speaker 2: quiet at place like I love it. This is my

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Speaker 2: new life. I know where are you.

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Speaker 3: I am in Beverly Hills right now too. I'm out

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Speaker 3: here doing Uh. Jelly Roll is a guest hosting Jimmy Kimmel,

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Speaker 3: so he he's I guess. I guess Kimmel takes off

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Speaker 3: like a week or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Didn't you just do something with him?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 2: Were you came in on stage with.

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Speaker 3: Jelly Yes, yeah, performed it? Uh gosh, it was Ohio

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Speaker 3: State Stadium, seventy people.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, how was that?

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Speaker 3: It was insane? It was? It was really it was

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Speaker 3: absolutely nuts. It was scary as can be. Yeah. The horseshoe, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: not fun. It was fun, but it was fun once

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Speaker 3: it was over. Put it that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, No, I get it. I get you.

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Speaker 2: But I've been good man. I'm here for a little bit. Actually,

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Speaker 2: go to New York to the Happy Gilmore Too premiere.

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Speaker 2: I was in it, so I saw it. Yes, it

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Speaker 2: was Did you see the movie? Yes, here's the thing

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet, You haven't, No, No, I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen it yet. It's ridiculous, Yeah, of course, the

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Speaker 3: It literally it made me want to have and I

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Speaker 3: know it's not going to happen, but these movies in

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Speaker 3: and it was like, that's what I want. And I know,

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Speaker 2: Well, it feels like the movie experience is slowly coming back,

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Speaker 2: you know, but it's not there.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: We see all these big tent pole movies, you know,

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Speaker 2: these Marvel movies, and you know they're they're making some money,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, that experience, man, I hope hopefully it does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all the they're all the big you know,

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Speaker 3: romantic comedy in Rome that I really I'm so excited

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Speaker 3: we're doing that in theaters, So I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Who'd you do that? Who did you do that with?

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Speaker 3: I did it with? You know, it was all Italian

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Speaker 3: actors and Kim Coates, you know, Kim Coates from you know,

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Speaker 3: Sons of Anarchy, and Jonathan Roomy was another guy, and uh,

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Speaker 2: And well it seems like the romantic comedies is sort

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Speaker 2: I mean me too. Movies are just in a funny place.

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Speaker 2: But you had a cool one. So I watched the

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Speaker 2: trailer for Guns Up. It looks fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a fun one. Yeahci is so bad ass

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Speaker 2: Man, dude, I know, because you're not used to seeing her.

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Speaker 2: I've known her like for a million years. You're nice

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Speaker 2: to seeing her in these kinds of roles and halfway

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Speaker 2: through the trailer she's fucking pulling out guns. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, she's obviously some sort of an operative, some kind.

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Speaker 3: She she and she stepped up. She was so game

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Speaker 4: Just she was awesome in it is What do you

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Speaker 4: like doing that kind of it's not drama necessarily, but

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it's got a fun you know,

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Speaker 3: Like I do love working the action. Of course, as

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Speaker 3: I get older, it's getting so freaking hard. I wore

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Speaker 3: like you got to keep yourself in shape. I gotta

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Speaker 3: And I go out to this stupid stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well that's because we're used to because you're an athlete,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I had such a false sense of my

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna show them. I'm almost fifty. But I was

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Speaker 2: always pretty fast. It was humbling. I was so slow

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Speaker 3: I've always loved, you know, being able to think like

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Speaker 3: The balance was off everything like slow. I'm like, that's

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Speaker 3: They're like, well, this is I mean, we we this

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, did you find that? You know, because

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Speaker 2: concerted effort to do shit. Yeah, I mean not the

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Speaker 3: I didn't care as much as like it appeared like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I did a movie called Becky, which was

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Speaker 3: I have to play show the world that you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm Christian bale Man. I can show you

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Speaker 3: I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's it's story, not that I don't wants

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Speaker 3: and like it is fun to have a challenge where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I guess you got you gotta eat it.

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00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just part of the It's.

433
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 3: Important, and it's important, and I ate it for a while,

434
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 3: Like I I would have good shows. Thank god, I

435
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 3: had good shows in between. Keep me going. It's like golf, man,

436
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, good golf shot, it brings you back.

437
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 2: No, it's so true. Golf is that completely that sport.

438
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: And for some reason, it always happens on eighteen. You know,

439
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: it's like you're playing horribly and then on eighteen like

440
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm done with this sport. I've played it

441
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 2: all my life and I am done, and then you

442
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 2: have an amazing whole exactly, it's still there, ye still there.

443
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: The way it really stand up?

444
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: No, you know, it's funny because I love to tell stories.

445
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't write jokes. I did a show with Bobby

446
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 2: Lee for two years, and he's because we were just joker.

447
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, you got to do stand up. You

448
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: gotta do five minutes. I get you five minutes and like,

449
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: no way, man, Like it's too scary, so scary to me.

450
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know what to do.

451
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: I am easy for you. Are you kidding?

452
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,120
Speaker 2: Just tell tell some stories, but I don't know what

453
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 2: the hell you go up and.

454
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: You do it. You act like you're bringing someone else up,

455
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,479
Speaker 3: you're bringing them just tell one story, right, and then

456
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: you just expanded.

457
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 2: A little Yeah, yeah, yeah.

458
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 3: You're feeling man, it's like.

459
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: It looks it does like it says, looks fulfilling, you know,

460
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 2: and the eating part you just have to take. And

461
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 2: I guess there's something beautiful about that as well. There

462
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: really is, because you're in a club. Everyone has eaten it.

463
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 2: So it's not like, you know, it's like there's a

464
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: commiseration where it's like this one time, yes, you know,

465
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: maybe I will.

466
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see see a good bucket listing.

467
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: So did you and Gary? Are you and your siblings

468
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: get along well growing up? You know? Or was there

469
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 2: was there infighting? What was the vibe?

470
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 3: We were Okay, the vibe was kind of normal. It

471
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: wasn't like we were We weren't buddy buddy though older

472
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 3: than me and my sister's two years younger. It's kind

473
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: of like, you know, we fought a lot in the house,

474
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, like like any kids around, you know, grab

475
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: my stuff that's mine? Is that? But uh, didn't you

476
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: know we weren't buddy buddy either. I remember I got

477
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: good at sports because I played with like Gary's friends.

478
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 3: I would play tackle football in the street, like he's

479
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: crazy where I didn't have my friend to do it.

480
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: So these guys are three years older and I'm running

481
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: the ball with them and they're throwing me down, you know.

482
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: So it's like I toughened up a lot with them,

483
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: which was good.

484
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: Was it competitive with you and Gary, especially him being

485
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: your older Yeah, you know, brother, where all of a

486
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: sudden you're coming up and bang bang bang.

487
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 3: I gotta say he there wasn't. I'm sure there were

488
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: times where it's like, you know, I always brought him on,

489
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: you know, and I always hated it because I didn't

490
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: want to give him like a spot on the show,

491
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 3: because you know, I didn't want him to think like

492
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: you know, or anybody think like I'm just doing it

493
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 3: because he's my brother.

494
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was funny and I love money. Yeah,

495
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: I played a ton of golf with Gary.

496
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

497
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like.

498
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 3: How do I do this without doing it? But there

499
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: can't not be I'm sure, you know, I don't know.

500
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: There's times where it's like, you know, he's like, yeah,

501
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: I remember this when I came out with Ray. When

502
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: Ray had his show, I remember I had just got

503
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 3: The King of Queens and I would follow Ray on

504
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 3: the red carpet, like I learned everything from Ray on

505
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 3: how to do a sitcom. Like I watched because I knew,

506
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: you know, we've been friends, you know in the standard yeah,

507
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: you know, for so much. And then the fact that

508
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: he got a show, I was like, first of all,

509
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it because he's such a low, you know,

510
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 3: energy guy, and like totally it was a different like

511
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 3: what guys were to me, like the big wacky you know,

512
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 3: like you know, he's got I'm like this, this is death.

513
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen. And then it did, and he

514
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: was so good on his sitcom and the way he

515
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 3: threw things away, I was like, I have to watch him,

516
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: you know, and learn from him because I'm gonna be

517
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: too big on camera. And and by the way, still

518
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 3: like even in the King of Queens, when I see

519
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: episodes now I'm like throw away, I'm like, I wish

520
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: I could go back and do it. But like the

521
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 3: first few years of with you know, going with Ray,

522
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 3: you know, even when our shows came out, we go

523
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: to the CBS like functions and things like that, and

524
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: red carpet things was so rough off because they knew

525
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: him and my show had just come out, so they're

526
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 3: taking like, you know, it's like the Red Ye taking

527
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: a thousand pictures of Ray kind of standing there and

528
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: nothing's clicking.

529
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: There's no no flashes, nothing. Man, maybe maybe are disposable,

530
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: some dis I'm trying to.

531
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: Get closer to him, and they're like, I just don't

532
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: one to ray by him. It was tough. So, I mean,

533
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: I'm sure Gary feels that sometimes, but he's he's so

534
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: funny on his own and it's like, I just want

535
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 3: him to find his own lane. And it's hard.

536
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: It's hard, of course, Yeah, dude. I mean, look, you know,

537
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 2: we've had so many siblings on yeah, and we've had

538
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: a lot of celebrity siblings and they're you know, and

539
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: their brothers or sisters right right, and some of them

540
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: are not even in the business, so the question is moot,

541
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: but a lot of them are, you know, And I

542
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: always ask the question, is there jealousy? Is there envy?

543
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 2: And they all say, oh no, we support each other,

544
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: and I'm like, bullshit, because we all have that and

545
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 2: I I admit the I have envy of my sister,

546
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: and there's some jealousy there. Others fucking crushing right now.

547
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, eh, you know, not to say that I

548
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: don't support them or love them or want them to

549
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: be amazing, but there is that feeling. The only person

550
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: was Chad Low. We had Rob Low and Chad, and

551
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: Chad's like, are you kidding me? Is that a real question?

552
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: Of course? Look at my brother, look at this, look

553
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: at how hot, look at his career.

554
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, But honestly, he has been the

555
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: supportive part, which I'm always whether he's biting his tongue

556
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 3: and hating you know, there might be some of that.

557
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

558
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: He's funny as hell too, yeah.

559
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: And he's honestly, I have to say, I don't think

560
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: like if I would have found stand up first, I

561
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: don't think I would have taken him on my little

562
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: brother and brought him to the clubs and showed him

563
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: all the things, right, you know, like find your own thing, man,

564
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: I did.

565
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: So, how did King of Queen's come about? Were you?

566
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: How did that? How did you get to because I

567
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: know you, I know you had a deal there, right.

568
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had. It was through stand up. I got

569
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: a deal, and I got it. I got booked at

570
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: the Montreal Comedy Festival, like nineteen ninety six or five,

571
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: five or six somewhere around then. And back then, stand

572
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: up is so hot that like all all the you know,

573
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: anybody who was in TV and you know, all the

574
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: executives and from Hollywood would come out go to Montreal.

575
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: And I was, you know, been friends with Rogan forever.

576
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 3: We've started with the same manager, and we would always

577
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 3: go out and do the Montreal Comedy Festival together and

578
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: get spots. And this is this one year that I

579
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: was up there and he was kind of with me

580
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 3: and just it. He was he was the one telling me,

581
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: just get out of your shell you're at you know,

582
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: because I was like every other stand up and still

583
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 3: and to something were you know, it's the kind of

584
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: you know, the sleeves rolled up and the jacket, what's

585
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: going on here? You know, the questions and he's like, dude,

586
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: you're not like that. Man. He's like, I want you

587
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: to just snap go out there, yeah, don't be And

588
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: I really learned from him that, you know, instead of

589
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: like serving the whole audience, you know what you have

590
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: on the platinum do you want to take? Just he

591
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: would just do what he cared about and if the

592
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 3: audience that would have this you know feeling of like

593
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: if if I don't know what he's doing, it was

594
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 3: not funny. Everybody else thinks it's funny. Like it was

595
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: just he had such confidence that it was like that

596
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: was it really powered through and like I didn't have

597
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: it like I was. I would get nervous and try to,

598
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: you know, raise the volume or whatever. It's like I

599
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: was that confidence and he kind of helped me with

600
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: that a lot. And I had a really good set Montreal,

601
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: a couple of good sets, and we did well enough

602
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: that I got a I got a development deal at.

603
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: NBC's that's that's that's like pretty amazing.

604
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was yeah, the fact that they

605
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: were interested and while I was in Montreal, this is

606
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: again this is when people it was like the wild.

607
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: It was so crazy because deals were happening and they

608
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: were giving them like and it's like, wow, we could

609
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: hit a big While I was in Montreal, they called

610
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: me to audition for SNL and I was so excited

611
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: about that. I flew back and I didn't know. I

612
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: thought they were gonna just like kind of give it

613
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: to me.

614
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: They liked me, Yeah, like I got it.

615
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they saw my stand up. I didn't know

616
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: why I go, Why am I flying back if they're

617
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: gonna get it? Because I love it. I would love

618
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: to have done it, but I had to audition and uh,

619
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: they said, just do some of your characters. And I

620
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: had no characters. I had stand up. That's what I did.

621
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: So when I tell you I did, I remember Marcy

622
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: Klein was there. I did stand up in a in

623
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: a in a room with nobody. It was just a

624
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: microphone and myself. The cameras were going. I didn't see anything.

625
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: And again I ate it. I can't so bad and

626
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: had no idea, no characters, nothing, no reaction, nobody laughing

627
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: at any of my bits. And obviously I didn't get it,

628
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: which was the best thing for ye Ever, Yeah, I

629
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: couldn't do you know anything else?

630
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? And so then so then you got this

631
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: deal and was it was your concept or did they

632
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: bring you this concept.

633
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: Michael Whitehorn, who was the writer the creator of the show,

634
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: had the concept of like he wanted to do like

635
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: a classic honeymooner it's like an updated version of the Honeymoon.

636
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

637
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he had seen a stand up tape of

638
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: mine and we met with him and then we started,

639
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 3: you know, working on it together. But it was his idea.

640
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: Initially we went to NBC, and NBC had shows like

641
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: Friends at that time, they were doing the office cubicle comedy.

642
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: They didn't want this one. They felt this one was

643
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: kind of like it was like kind of stupid, and

644
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: they didn't they didn't like they wanted me. They didn't

645
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: want me as a truck driver. They literally said that.

646
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 3: They said, does he have to be a truck driver?

647
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: Like the packages? Can he be? You know? And then

648
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: it was like, well that's what this guy is, you know.

649
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: It's they said, well at least can he They literally said,

650
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: can he be like go downstairs in the basement and

651
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: like play chess with somebody like in London on the internet?

652
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: Is when the Internet was coming through. They're like, well,

653
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: that's not this guy and they're like, well, if he's

654
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: not that guy, I guess then he might not be

655
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: a for us or And that's when we said, all right,

656
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: we're done with it. And then thank God's CBS called

657
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: and we did it there. They gave me because of

658
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: Ray's I think because of Ray being there and they

659
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: knew you know, I knew Ray, And I was able

660
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: to write an episode about golf yeah and be on

661
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: that and I think that gave him a little confidence

662
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: that we could do.

663
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the casting process. Were you heavily involved

664
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: in that as well? Yes, because that's it. I mean,

665
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: you guys had such stupid chemistry, you know what I mean.

666
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: She was what I wanted her right from the beginning.

667
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: Leoh you did did yeah? Oh without I said we

668
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: have to get her. I just you know, we just

669
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: finally made it work. It just you know, she was

670
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: able to do it. She came in, she said she

671
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: didn't want to do a sitcom. Uh but she uh,

672
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: she she agreed to a meeting and she came in

673
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: and we just hit it.

674
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

675
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: She was like she was just so yeah.

676
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: And then then once, you know, once the success happened,

677
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: was it just kind of like, oh my god, I

678
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: cannot believe that this is where it is or did

679
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: you always have that belief that now someday I'm going

680
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: to be here?

681
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: You know, No, I definitely didn't have that. You didn't

682
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: have it it was like I thought, like, you know,

683
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: the good things are happening, you know, I feel like

684
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: I'm meant to do all this stuff. I didn't expect

685
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: to be there. And even when I was there, when

686
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: we first, you know, first couple of years of having

687
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 3: a show, you're you're always looking over your shoulder.

688
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that now you think you.

689
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: Were this, you know this is gonna happen. I know,

690
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: where do I go? I'm sorry?

691
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Now we had that with rules of engagement.

692
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: It was always like with Spade, and I was always

693
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: kind of I don't know, like are we yeah, this happening,

694
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: no idea, you don't know.

695
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: What it's gonna end, right, Like yeah, Chierco's all right,

696
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: we got picked up or we'd get like picked up

697
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: for like half Yes, it's kind of exactly slap in

698
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: the face.

699
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I love you that much, right exactly exactly.

700
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

701
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 2: But you know, as you progressed, how many seasons did

702
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: you do with the show?

703
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: We did nine?

704
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's still in syndication right after all these.

705
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: By the way, it's doing better now than it did

706
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: when we came out again. It was friends, it was Raymond.

707
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: It was all these other shows that we weren't, like

708
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: top ten, we weren't you know, we were doing well.

709
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: It was after you know, we followed Cosby for a

710
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: little bit and we got a good lead in and

711
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: then Raymond came on, so we were in that little

712
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: basketball hammock and it helped us. But we were never

713
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 3: you know, Boom the President. They never talked about us.

714
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 3: But the better you know, we did much better in

715
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: syndication then we like, now I'm hearing more about it

716
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: than ever.

717
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Clark, someone who knows the Ken Queens would come on

718
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: Netflix and all of a sudden have a billion view resurgence.

719
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: So it's right, right right, it's it's yeah, it's crazy.

720
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Would you ever do

721
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: another stick coomedy? Think? Or are you done with that?

722
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: It's not that I would, I guess I would. I

723
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: mean do anything, I really. It's it's just different, you know,

724
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: you know, it's just a different kind of But I

725
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: loved it. I loved it.

726
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: Well. The schedule too, is so great, you know, you know,

727
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: and you got your family and you know, it's just

728
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: so it's always so nice to sort of be here.

729
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it was really cool and uh like

730
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: I did one after that called Kevin Can Wait and

731
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: it ate it after like two years. It was a

732
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: fun one. But it was by my house on Long Island.

733
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: It had all my buddies were in it. You know,

734
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: it's like it was like a group of people and

735
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 3: you know, it just felt like this is so much fun. Man.

736
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: We were hanging out Friday nights. We just you know,

737
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,240
Speaker 3: shoot the show and then stay around and but yeah,

738
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: you know it's it's a fun atmosphere.

739
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: It is if something cool comes along the Yeah, yeah,

740
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: I would definitely look at you consider would you would you?

741
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think?

742
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah I would. I would again if I

743
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: think there needs to be resurgence of the sitcoming. I

744
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: want to get back to the Rays or even your

745
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: show or Cheers, where you have incredible actors, incredible writers, playwrights.

746
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: People were on Broadway, you know, moving the camera inside

747
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: a little bit to have some coverage, to do a

748
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: sitcom that actually feels like something, you know what I mean.

749
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: I think it would be so great if a network

750
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: would take a chance on something like that rather than

751
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 2: going for sort of the big canned laugh stuff exactly.

752
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: That makes it smart again, how fucking smart and amazing

753
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: was cheers? It was great and characters there were dead depth,

754
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: you know, so yes, I mean I would love to

755
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: do some sick like that, you know, and if I

756
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: could stay in La of course it's the rest.

757
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: You know.

758
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: This was great, man, it's really fun talking to you.

759
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.

760
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: And when does when? When does guns Up come out?

761
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: It comes out Friday? Friday?

762
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: And where where can we watch it?

763
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: I think it's I don't know theaters. Everywhere where's it?

764
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: I even know theaters and.

765
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: Streaming theaters and streaming, and then when who cares? Just

766
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: go watch it? Go find it? And then what about

767
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: what about the special? When is when's that specials coming along?

768
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: We're doing it now?

769
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: I don't know the drop of it.

770
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, cool.

771
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: Well, it's good to talk to you, keV. Good to

772
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: see hopefully get to see him person to man. Alright,

773
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: alrybody later.

774
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: Ah.

775
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: He's the best, such a cool guy. I haven't seen

776
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: him in forever. He looks great, even with that bicep. Man,

777
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: when he pulled his biceps out, I think I put

778
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: a teacher that biceped. No, it's bicep and he and

779
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: he had torn it. He was still like yoked. You

780
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: don't want to get into a scuffle with him. He

781
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 2: will destroy you. He's so strong and so fast and nimble.

782
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: He will destroy you. So all, for all those who

783
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: are listening right now, do not pick a fight with

784
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: Kevin James. You will get destroyed anyway. That was awesome.

785
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: I love that guy and I'm out. Priest to the Gods.

786
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: Jay Quest the Boogeyman

787
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: A