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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: app or wherever you get your podcasts. Were there a

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Speaker 2: bunch of executive orders signed by Biden that are invalid

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Speaker 2: and it involves an autopen A lot of discussions to

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Speaker 2: be had about this, but also the transband inside of

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Speaker 2: the Pentagon, the Hohofy's Trump, so many things to dive into.

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Speaker 3: Gabby Kucia is with us once again.

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Speaker 2: She is the Pentagon oaan correspondent and she comes to

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Speaker 2: us now from inside of the studio that she operates in,

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Speaker 2: but not in fact from the Pentagon, but she covers

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Speaker 2: the Pentagon every day.

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Speaker 3: What's good?

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Speaker 2: Do I need to call? Secretary Hegseth? How come you're

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Speaker 2: not set up yet inside the Pentagon? What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Correction? I am this is actually the first time, Buck,

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Speaker 4: you're the exclusive.

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Speaker 1: This is the first time that we are.

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Speaker 3: Phis Okay you are yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We're in the Pentagon building with Wi Fi as of

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Speaker 4: this week, of which it usually takes at a minimum

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Speaker 4: three months apparently to get any service when you come

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Speaker 4: into the Pentagon.

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Speaker 1: But there's reporters that don't.

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Speaker 4: Have Internet access that haven't had it for like over

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Speaker 4: a year, just in certain parts of the press core

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Speaker 4: wing so pretty wild. Usually I just run outside and

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Speaker 4: report my news from the outdoors.

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Speaker 1: But we're inside. This is insider. Look, we're almost done.

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Speaker 2: How is the food in the Pentagon. I've never been

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Speaker 2: to the Pentagon, you know, I've I've worked in Langley

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Speaker 2: for years. Never I went to all of the White House, Congress,

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Speaker 2: don't you different, Intel, Intel Agency buildings. Never went to

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, Buck, haven't you you know this doesn't the CIA.

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Speaker 4: The CIA always has the best food, the best ye

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Speaker 4: Lot cafeteria.

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Speaker 1: That stuff still stands.

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Speaker 4: But I will say the Pentagon Pentagon slaps when it

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Speaker 4: comes to the food because I worked at the White House,

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Speaker 4: you know, so like I saw the cafeteria, I see

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Speaker 4: the Capitol Hill Cafeteria. Pentagon Cafetia is pretty good. The

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Speaker 4: IA one is definitely still number one. But yeah, they

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Speaker 4: got a courtyard. Actually, funny funny fact about the courtyard.

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Speaker 4: It used to there's in the middle of the courtyard

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Speaker 4: is a pot bellies now, but it used to be

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Speaker 4: I believe it was the nineties eighties or nineties, Russia

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Speaker 4: thought that this hot dog stand was They didn't know

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Speaker 4: no one knew about. And so then Peegon officials drew

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Speaker 4: a bull's eye on top of the hot dog stands

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Speaker 1: Anyway, there's that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Langley, we used to I used to get like pressed,

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Speaker 2: fresh pressed panini and with my cappuccino. You know, it

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Speaker 2: they actually had pretty good, pretty good food over there.

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Speaker 2: I hope that internet works, considering that you're at the

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Speaker 2: institution that has the biggest military budget on the planet,

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Speaker 2: so hopefully the internet can stay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're moving. They're bumping up, which I'm sure you've

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Speaker 4: talked about this already. It's true, around nine hundred billion

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Speaker 1: Golden Dome at a minimum, but.

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Speaker 4: They do have DoD does have some questions that need

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Speaker 3: What's the Golden Dome?

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Speaker 1: The Golden Dome, you know, the Golden Dome.

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Speaker 4: It's similar, of course to the Iron Dome in which

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Speaker 1: Just very similar to the Iron Dome of Israel. And

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Speaker 4: the damage that was done.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully you are something of an autopen expert and

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Speaker 2: you can tell everybody why that is. And you think

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Speaker 2: that there's a very good chance that the autopen was

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Speaker 2: perhaps particularly his final year.

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Speaker 3: Why and what would that mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, so, Yeah, I worked at the Executive Clerk's office.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the oldest office of the executive branch

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Speaker 4: and of which those people do not change per administration.

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Speaker 4: So and before I even worked there, when I was

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Speaker 4: regularly during the Obama administration. So I've seen the autopen,

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Speaker 4: I know how it works, and then utilized it myself

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Speaker 4: when I was an executive clerk. But it's not even

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Speaker 4: hyper fixated on whether or not Biden had this cognitive decline.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's people, I mean, our former reporter here

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Speaker 4: in the beginning of the administration, So I'm actually saying

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Speaker 4: he utilized the autopen from the beginning of his administration

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Speaker 4: all four years. When you look at those signatures, that

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Speaker 4: autopen signature gets updated and reflective of the most current signature.

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Speaker 1: Over time.

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Speaker 4: People's hands can get a little bit shakier as they

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Speaker 4: Like signatures can change naturally over time, the autopen will

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Speaker 4: reflect any changes. The autopen was never changed. And the

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Speaker 4: signature of Joe Biden, the alleged signature, right, the authentic one,

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Speaker 4: never changed either. Majority of those executive orders within those

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Speaker 1: So being able to discern signatures in and of itself

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Speaker 4: Not that it's it's pretty easy, but someone probably with

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Speaker 4: that appears to be machinery, especially when it's identical. So

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Speaker 4: being understanding the autopen and from my perspective from being

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Speaker 4: I'm not blaming the executive Clerk's office at all. Again,

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Speaker 4: they've retained historically they are part of an email thread

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Speaker 4: that requires presidential authority, presidential signature, so most commonly would

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Speaker 4: be say your executive orders, your proclamations, your memos, disaster declarations,

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Speaker 4: whatever it may be, you see those from start to finish.

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Speaker 4: clerks answer to directly. They are given in this email

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Speaker 4: main staff secretary When that happens, you print the document

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Speaker 4: signing everything in person, the press releases are being done,

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Speaker 4: Those press releases were going out because there was hardly

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Speaker 1: I would just.

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Speaker 4: Say every ounce of anything that President Biden at that

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Speaker 4: of which there were three. You had near a tandent,

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Speaker 4: And that's all you need to do is look at them,

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Speaker 1: The executive clerks.

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Speaker 4: Would never ever put out a presidential signature on autopen

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Speaker 1: That's their main job.

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Speaker 3: That was the deepest dive on autopen I have ever

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Speaker 3: heard or experienced. So that is a very interesting background.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: We're let's talk here in a second about it's basically

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Speaker 2: a lot of Biden executive orders. Might it might be

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Speaker 2: ever be proven. So Trump said that the Hoothies are

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Speaker 3: What can you tell us about what's going on with this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that came to a surprise from everybody

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Speaker 4: Houthis in the Red Sea was that the quote being

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Speaker 4: the Hoothies for it. But then you saw immediately after

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Speaker 2: what is the latest on what's going on in the Pentagon?

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Speaker 1: Going back to we're gonna cut the fat.

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Speaker 4: completely compatible. I mean, this is no different than you

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Speaker 4: Literally, But if that's how they determine deployability, then okay,

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Speaker 1: at what.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, maybe not maybe I get you. I get

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Speaker 3: I get what you're putting down. Yeah, thank you, I

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Speaker 2: We gotta leave it there for today, but people can

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Speaker 3: so much.

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