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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, so live on a first Friday, a Miraicle

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Speaker 2: edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 3: I am merely Bo, he is the great z. How

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Speaker 3: you living, buddy? I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 2: Did you know that in a season full of the improbable,

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Speaker 2: the impossible happened thirty seven years ago today?

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Speaker 3: Did I know this? Did you know that? Did you know?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: One of the great calls of all time, unless from

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Speaker 2: your perspective, probably what are the worst calls of all

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Speaker 2: Oh god?

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Speaker 3: Thirty seven years ago today, nobody cares. Everybody cares.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 6: Well, in a couple of days, it'll be McGuire's walk

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Speaker 6: off home when Winter, which was all we had in

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Speaker 6: Game three, which is all Yeah, that was that's thirty

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Speaker 6: seven years ago, thirty seven years ago today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the next levels next, our our work here

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Speaker 3: is done it.

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Speaker 2: It's the for for those who aren't familiar with the terminology,

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Speaker 2: it's the Kirk Gibson home run that that wins uh

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Speaker 2: the game of the World Series against Eck who was

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Speaker 2: the MVP ANDSI Young Award winner that year for the

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Speaker 2: My beloved Dodgers, your beloved days. But what the So

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Speaker 2: it's thirty seven. But what I was thinking about is

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Speaker 2: do we even now can people who grew up in

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Speaker 2: the last twenty years? Do you have calls like that

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Speaker 2: that those because it calls like that typically come like

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Speaker 2: the legendary calls like and that one is and I

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Speaker 2: know it's not for you, but that one is, and

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Speaker 2: like Jack Buck for the twins and let's see.

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Speaker 6: You tomorrow night because I doesn't care to listen to it,

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Speaker 6: but you are familiar.

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Speaker 3: Yes, is this? Yes, it's all I can see. It

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Speaker 3: makes me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it really I was thinking about it. So

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Speaker 2: it was that and it's I mean, it's golf, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's like vern at the Masters with Jack, yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: and then him with Tiger on sixteen, like you remember

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Speaker 2: those moments. But a lot of that stuff is stuff

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Speaker 2: that you would see, like in a VHS, that you

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Speaker 2: would get with your sports Illustrated subscription. Yeah, like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what is the modern equivalent of that. We

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Speaker 2: have so many calls that we revere from Jim during

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Speaker 2: his time that are so iconic, But like, does a

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Speaker 2: younger generation have moments like that that they can that

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Speaker 2: put them in a spot immediately and you know exactly

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Speaker 2: where you were, where you were when it was said.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: No. I think it's I think it's different and we

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Speaker 6: have I mean, obviously Jim Nance's as good as it gets.

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Speaker 6: So my guess is that you know, there are tons

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Speaker 6: of Nance calls, But I don't think it's that we're

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Speaker 6: not that kind of a society anymore where we even

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Speaker 6: remember things like that. I feel like we're on the

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Speaker 6: next Yeah, our attention span is so.

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Speaker 3: Quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that you don't remember or those things aren't savored

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Speaker 2: the way that they were.

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Speaker 6: Right well, and it's and the irony of it is

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Speaker 6: that it's more readily available. It'll be clipped on YouTube,

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, on X on Instagram, on TikTok, it'll be everywhere.

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Speaker 6: But people don't even I don't think people digest I

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Speaker 6: watch my kids do it, you know, in this like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awful.

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Speaker 4: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: We're the old men right now yelling at clouds.

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Speaker 6: But whatever, fine, where we are. But I do notice

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Speaker 6: that their brains still work that way. But that I

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Speaker 6: think for us was important stuff to have in our brain,

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Speaker 6: Now it's like, Okay, it stimulates me for five seconds

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Speaker 6: and now it's right out. Like when I watch it,

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 6: It's just all in, right out, and like, what did

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Speaker 6: It's dopamine. It's a dopamine chase. Yeah, they're always the.

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Speaker 3: Next, next, next, next, and then nothing marinates.

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Speaker 6: Now you don't even like really savor things anymore, which

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Speaker 6: is because that is something that like you can savor,

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Speaker 6: Like there's a whole process to it. So then it

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Speaker 6: and yeah, that year and that region and all of

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Speaker 6: it's I'll even admit it's happened to me, like and

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Speaker 6: I'm sure for you maybe or maybe not. But even

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Speaker 6: watching a show that I'm into just out of habit,

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Speaker 6: I'll pick this up at at some moment if there's

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Speaker 3: Like not I can, and then I'm like so that

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Speaker 6: Which is why I really love Showgun because I had

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Speaker 3: So I enjoyed that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I just think that's part of it's unfortunately

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Speaker 6: it's just part of it's part of society.

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Speaker 3: It is. Yeah, it's funny you mentioned Showgun. I was.

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Speaker 2: I just was watching some of Narcos Mexico and it

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Speaker 2: was the same thing, Like you can't pick up.

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Speaker 3: Hey, do you really got to watch it? Read? Otherwise

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Speaker 2: And I think even maybe that's why I really love

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Speaker 2: it's why I really still love if there is a

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Speaker 2: wait for it and then watch it and then consume

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Speaker 2: it and think about it. It's just so easy to

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Speaker 2: go on to the next and hit the next episode.

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Speaker 2: I wonder, what's gonna happen next week? Well, I've gotta wait.

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Speaker 3: I can just hit skip intro and it's up in

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Speaker 6: I will say, for my governce, if I had to

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Speaker 6: wait two years after that to Eason one finale, that's

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Speaker 3: But no, one hundred percent and.

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Speaker 2: The week to week, and I think it goes to

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Speaker 2: We talked about this, I think on Monday or maybe

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Speaker 2: yesterday on the show, and we talked about the ratings

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Speaker 2: for the Buccaneers and forty nine Ers. So those aren't

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Speaker 2: the Buccaneers and forty nine ers. The forty nine Ers

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Speaker 2: are an iconic franchise. The Buccaneers are not an iconic franchise.

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Speaker 2: But the forty nine ers, they didn't have party. It

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Speaker 2: was Mac Jones, like if this isn't like the Stars,

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Speaker 2: this isn't Montana Rice, nothing like that. Nou no, no

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Speaker 2: star power, nothing. And the Bucks didn't have Mike Adams.

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Speaker 2: And Baker's a really fun story. But he's not like

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Speaker 2: some big national brand that everybody there. He's getting there,

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Speaker 2: but he's not like Mahomes or something like that that

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Speaker 2: drives it. But football still has that. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: why this show works, It's why sports talk radio works,

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Speaker 2: because football still has that thing that you have to savor.

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Speaker 2: You only have it once a week. You get your

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Speaker 2: team gets to play once and you get to watch

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Speaker 2: the one game and then you can digest it however

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Speaker 2: it all week, and then you get to talk about

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Speaker 2: what's next, what's coming up, and it just it feeds

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Speaker 2: the beast in a way that nothing else is and

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Speaker 2: it allows for contemplation where so many other sports don't.

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Speaker 2: Every other sport baseball playing every day, basketball, hockey playing

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Speaker 3: How big is a loss. It's not baseball, it's not.

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Speaker 2: You're you're playing by the time a game is a

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Speaker 2: game is over on Monday night, or let's say a

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Speaker 2: playing on a Wednesday afternoon, and and by the time

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Speaker 2: you're talking about it, they're already ready to start the

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Speaker 2: next game. Football is once a week and it's never

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Speaker 2: going to be more than that, And so you have

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Speaker 2: all of this time to digest. And I think in

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Speaker 2: a way there's there's some nostalgia for all of us

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Speaker 3: I totally agree.

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Speaker 6: By the way we're watching a show that and this

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Speaker 6: is I find myself these kind of shows I find

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Speaker 6: almost more interesting now than show shows like and I

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Speaker 6: want to watch this Guinness one that looks like it's

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Speaker 3: Let's what I tell you. The music takes me.

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Speaker 2: Out of it a little bit. Yeah, but I'll give

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Speaker 6: It's called Knife Edge and it is it's a it's real.

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Speaker 6: It's like kind of pseudo documentary and it's about they

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Speaker 6: profile like the first ones in New York. They profile

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Speaker 6: three restaurants that are either trying ones trying to keep

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Speaker 6: its Michelin star and so trying to get a Michelin star,

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Speaker 6: and it goes through kind of that, and then you

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Speaker 6: hear from they never show the people on campus, but

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Speaker 6: the Michelin inspectors, and then it ends with the award

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Speaker 6: show and you find out if any of them got

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Speaker 6: their star or kept their star or whatever. And it's

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Speaker 6: not all happy ending. So yeah, it keeps you guessing

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Speaker 6: at least, which is cool. What's this I want to say, Apple.

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Speaker 6: So we watched the first one and now they're going

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Speaker 6: to go into Chicago I think is the next city.

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Speaker 6: But it was It's really cool, but it was funny

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Speaker 6: watching it. You know, first of all, they have a

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Speaker 6: British guy who's a food blogger who's kind of the

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Speaker 6: host of it. But he says, Michielan like a Michelan

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Speaker 6: star and it's such a big deal in the restaurant world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Sure, So we're going and we're watching. They get to

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Speaker 6: the point where it's like the Award Show and like

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Speaker 6: there's it's a I mean, we're talking black tie gala.

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Speaker 3: This is a big deal.

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Speaker 6: Like they say, one Micheline Star awarded to and they

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Speaker 6: go alphabetical and like, your restaurant either comes up when

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Speaker 6: it's your time in the alphabet or it doesn't, and

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Speaker 6: that means no Micheline Star for you, or you get

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Speaker 6: a Michelin Star, which changes probably the trajectory of your everything,

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Speaker 6: of your as your chef, change the trajectory of your restaurant,

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Speaker 6: all of it. So they go and then like, as

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Speaker 6: people are coming up next to this woman in his

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Speaker 6: beautiful gown, who's kind of the announce making the announcements?

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Speaker 3: Is the Michelin man.

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Speaker 7: Like the white guy with the tires, Yes, really yes,

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Speaker 7: like the mask he's in the mix, the Micheline mascot

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Speaker 6: Well, Like, my favorite wine that I've ever had is

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Speaker 6: Currently no Michelin Star restaurants in Cleveland because the Michelin

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Speaker 6: But even though you didn't lose, just they don't cover.

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Speaker 2: We ated a Michelin Star joint in your hometown when

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Speaker 2: then we ate it too in Napa one in Sonoma

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. That's that's fantastic. Yeah, good good. I

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Speaker 2: The blond would like that as well, which is always

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Speaker 2: a win for everybody. It is Miami Week, Week seven

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Speaker 2: No reason was given for that. Jack Conklin, the Chief,

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Speaker 3: But then again, aren't we all? That's Eisen right is Eisen?

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Speaker 3: Miles Yeah, why he was not present? All right?

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Speaker 2: This is a island bum weighing in with this fun

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Speaker 6: To hear that he did not use the word turd

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Speaker 2: That's actually the hashtag is the word turd is in

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Speaker 3: Dean Pritchett. Yeah, sheees, it's right. That's right. Last time

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Speaker 3: Here's your head coach, Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Dolphins week.

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Speaker 9: You know, they're a team that presents a lot of

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Speaker 9: The pressure game and the coverage game, really keep you

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Speaker 3: A couple of days.

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Speaker 5: Hasn't gone what you want.

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Speaker 5: Obviously he's a leader. We we put a lot on

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Speaker 9: identified some of the things that we can help them with.

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Speaker 9: But incremental improvements from our young players is what's most important.

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Speaker 8: He d Bell though.

443
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Speaker 9: If he's the start, he felt the player. Yeah, talk

444
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Speaker 9: to Dave yesterday. He's a favorite of this building. He's

445
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Speaker 9: a favorite of the coaches of the staff. He's just

446
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Speaker 9: a guy that from the moment he got here, he

447
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Speaker 9: always did did it the right way. Super dependable. You know,

448
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Speaker 9: I think back to that game where he was injured

449
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Speaker 9: and I'm making it up, but he played like fifteen

450
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Speaker 9: plays or something and was so impactful in those fifteen plays.

451
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Speaker 9: Had a big catch off of play action, had a

452
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Speaker 9: great scrambled drill catch, was making plays, doing dirty work

453
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Speaker 9: for us in the run game. So just you don't

454
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Speaker 9: think very highly of the person. He'll do great and

455
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Speaker 9: whatever is next for him. But also just a guy

456
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Speaker 9: that was fun to coach because he was just the

457
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Speaker 9: consummate professional. When you look at that Miami running back,

458
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Speaker 9: does he have special speed and like what jumps out

459
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Speaker 9: about him?

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Speaker 5: Speed?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he's a great runner, he's a great receiver.

462
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Speaker 5: They can lie them up everywhere.

463
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Speaker 9: They do a great job of using all fifty three

464
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Speaker 9: and a third of the field and making you defend

465
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Speaker 9: all of it. So he gets your attention very quickly.

466
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Speaker 9: Just that speed's legit.

467
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Speaker 5: Good player.

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Speaker 9: Again, that's a really nice marriage of the scheme and

469
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Speaker 9: his skill set with how quickly he gets the ball out,

470
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Speaker 9: how accurate he is when he gets the ball out.

471
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Speaker 9: I think he sees it really really clearly, can get

472
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Speaker 9: the ball to all areas of the field and get

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Speaker 9: the ball in the hands of the playmakers.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but when you talk.

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Speaker 4: About the speed that the Dolphins have, is yet an

476
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Speaker 4: element that you would like to incorporate more in your

477
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Speaker 4: own offense that you have it on the roster, and

478
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Speaker 4: if so, can.

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Speaker 5: You use it without a doubt?

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Speaker 9: I mean, speed is something that defenses respond to, obviously,

481
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Speaker 9: Mary Kay. And the more ways you can get the

482
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Speaker 9: ball in the hands of guys that can go, I

483
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Speaker 9: think that's the important piece of playmakers, is getting the

484
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Speaker 9: ball where they can, you know, put the foot in

485
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Speaker 9: the ground and get vertical and make your yards and

486
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Speaker 9: if with speed, when you block things cleanly, it can

487
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Speaker 9: really be an explosive play.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully adjusted the loss Tyrene.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think obviously they're adjusting a little bit, just

490
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Speaker 9: personnel wise, and some of those plays.

491
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Speaker 5: He's a great, great player, as everybody knows.

492
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Speaker 9: But they continue to be explosive in the ways they

493
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Speaker 9: get the all of their play market play makers involved, Keven.

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Speaker 11: In recent weeks, it seems like teams, especially Steals and

495
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Speaker 11: the Pitons, and been kind of neutralizing the pass for

496
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Speaker 11: us by getting the ball out quickly.

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Speaker 10: And the Dolphins are no different with their every depth of.

498
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Speaker 11: Target and how quickly to look gets the ball out.

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Speaker 10: As a defense, how do you guys contract that to

500
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Speaker 10: still be affective.

501
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think if you'd look definitely over the last

502
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Speaker 9: couple of years, Daniel, every team that plays us gets

503
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Speaker 9: the ball out quickly. That's that's a by design obviously

504
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Speaker 9: with Miles being on our roster, so uh, there's ways

505
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Speaker 9: that we try to mitigate that with rush and coverage involved.

506
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Speaker 9: And then when you can get offenses into those down

507
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Speaker 9: the distances where they have to hold the ball third

508
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Speaker 9: and longer call it third and seven plus where they're

509
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Speaker 9: longer developing plays potentially, that's when you can play to

510
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Speaker 9: your strengths. But understand that all teams come in versus

511
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Speaker 9: us trying to get the ball out quickly. You have

512
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Speaker 9: a right zone right as wall or or maybe on

513
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Speaker 9: third down two because both of those percentages are high.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a great player for them.

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Speaker 9: You can see the element that he's added to their

516
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Speaker 9: offense from like you mentioned Joe in the red zone

517
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Speaker 9: with his size and he can run. He's always been

518
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Speaker 9: a player that can get down the field. You know

519
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Speaker 9: a lot of these tight ends that are so big

520
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Speaker 9: but can cover ground and can separate vertically as much

521
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Speaker 9: as horizontally, and he's certainly one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, your head coach Kevin Stefanski

523
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524
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525
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Speaker 2: Seats Official Fan Experienced partner of your Cleveland Browns. They

527
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Speaker 2: are one in five on the season, that is good

528
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Speaker 2: for third in the AFC East. Their head coach is

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniels. His fourth year still as a winning record

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Speaker 2: despite the one in five start. This year, he is

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Speaker 2: twenty nine and twenty eight overall. The Dolphins lead the

532
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Speaker 2: all time series with the Browns thirteen to nine. Last

533
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Speaker 2: time out, they beat us in twenty twenty four late

534
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Speaker 2: December twenty to three. The last time they played was

535
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Speaker 2: last week at home against the LA Chargers in a

536
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Speaker 2: loss twenty nine to twenty seven that did the scores

537
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Speaker 2: no favors. League rankings, their offense ranked twenty six overall,

538
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Speaker 2: twenty seventh against the rush, twenty first against the pass. Defensively,

539
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Speaker 2: they are thirtieth in the league, thirty second against the rush,

540
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Speaker 2: twentieth against the pass. Turnover margin is minus two. For

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Speaker 2: more on the Miami Dolphins, we turn it over to

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Speaker 2: Duck Dizzy.

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Speaker 6: All right, this is not a great football team, but

544
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Speaker 6: they can score. They've scored more than twenty points in

545
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Speaker 6: five straight games, and so if you're the Cleveland Browns,

546
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Speaker 6: to beat them, feels likely you might need to score

547
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Speaker 6: twenty points. Now.

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Speaker 3: Good news, Good news, good news.

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Speaker 6: They've given up more than twenty points all six games.

550
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Speaker 6: Oh everyone, buddy, every single one of them. To the

551
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Speaker 6: tune up thirty three, thirty three, thirty one, twenty one seven,

552
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Speaker 6: twenty nine. That averages on a season twenty nine points

553
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Speaker 6: a game, twenty ninth in the n Worth Most. This

554
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Speaker 6: is the thirty second ranked run defense quin sean Quin,

555
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Speaker 6: sean Quin, sean Quin, sean Quin, sean Quin, sean The

556
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Speaker 6: next levels next number thirty overall defense, thirtieth on third downs,

557
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Speaker 6: thirtieth on fourth downs. They give up twenty three first

558
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Speaker 6: downs a game. We're averaging about seventeen. So bump that

559
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Speaker 6: number up for us in this game.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: The one the area where they're good. They force a

562
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Speaker 6: lot of fumbles. They forced nine fumbles in six games,

563
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Speaker 6: they've covered five and in the red zone, well out,

564
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Speaker 6: they're the number four red zone defense. So that's where

565
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Speaker 6: they've been very good offensively. You know, you got two

566
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Speaker 6: He led the NFL and passing yards in twenty twenty three,

567
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Speaker 6: led the league completion percentage last year this year seventy

568
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Speaker 6: percent completions twelve hundred and thirteen yards.

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Speaker 3: Look at him.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. What did you notice?

572
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Speaker 4: I don't know about that. I don't know what that.

573
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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I don't know what we

574
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Speaker 3: just saw. I don't know what that well, I don't

575
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Speaker 3: know what right back. I don't know we got a beback.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that was. No, what that was,

577
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

578
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Speaker 6: Looked onto a lovely monk strap, though it looked to

579
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Speaker 6: it's a little bit yeah, yeah, to a tongue Bylow.

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Speaker 3: That's a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Now you start eleven passing touchdowns, only three people on

582
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Speaker 6: the roster have caught them. Jalen Waddle's got three, Devin A.

583
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Speaker 6: Chan's got three, Darren Waller's got four. Darren Waller Darren

584
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Speaker 6: Waller hadn't played since twenty three and in three games

585
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Speaker 6: has ten catches, one hundred and seventeen yards and four touchdowns.

586
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Speaker 6: That's guy who's got two thousand yard seasons, was a

587
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Speaker 6: pro bowler, all of that, but that's who they get it.

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Speaker 3: So the weapons.

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Speaker 6: Waddle leads team twenty nine catches three or nine yard,

590
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Speaker 6: three touchdowns. Remember Tyreek kills out for the year, yep,

591
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 6: totally horrific, injury horrific. So they got Devin H.

592
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Speaker 3: Chan eight.

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Speaker 6: Chan's run for three hundred and ninety yards, so he

594
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Speaker 6: has as many rushing yards as Wattle has receiving yards.

595
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Speaker 6: He's averaging five point one yards of carry, three touchdowns

596
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Speaker 6: on the ground. Also, twenty nine catches one hundred and

597
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Speaker 6: ninety five yards and three touchdowns receiving, so six total

598
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Speaker 6: touchdowns will lead the team. Last year had fifteen hundred

599
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Speaker 6: total yards twelve touchdowns. Waller I mentioned, but that's pretty much.

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Speaker 6: It like those are the guys who touched the ball.

601
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Speaker 6: For example, last week, Wattle caught six passes, eight Chan

602
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 6: caught four passes, Waller caught two. But in terms of

603
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Speaker 6: other receivers, he had Malik Washington at four for twenty

604
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Speaker 6: two and Leek Washington is an interesting one. He was

605
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Speaker 6: their six round pick out of West Virginia. A small

606
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Speaker 6: guy but fast. Has nine rushes for sixty one yards

607
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Speaker 6: this season. He's averaging six point eight yards a rush.

608
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Speaker 6: He's got sixteen catches for sixty nine yards four point

609
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Speaker 6: three yards a catch. How many people average more yards

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Speaker 6: per rush than per catch. I don't know if I've

611
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Speaker 6: seen it, if I've come across that. They will play

612
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Speaker 6: two tight ends a good amount. Julian Hill's their second

613
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Speaker 6: tight end. He's got a nine catch for seventy six years.

614
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Speaker 6: Solid line up front. The left tackle Patrick Paul was

615
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Speaker 6: their second round pick last year. Larry Borham's a journeyman

616
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Speaker 6: who's playing it at the right tackle spot. Was a

617
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Speaker 6: fifth round pick from Chicago. Cole Strange is the right

618
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Speaker 6: guard from her first round pick of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't he with us?

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Speaker 4: Could be?

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Speaker 3: Feels like that?

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: Was he with us and they signed him off our

624
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Speaker 6: practice squad because he's playing great ball and quite which

625
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Speaker 6: that makes me really sad.

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Speaker 4: Cole Strange, Yeah, oh yeah, it had a jersey that

627
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Speaker 4: I wanted.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well he's wearing the same he's wearing the same

629
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Speaker 6: number in Miami, so you could get a Miami one.

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Speaker 6: Aaron Brewers the center, and then Jonah Sa Sava Naya.

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Speaker 6: Sava Naya is the left guard who was secon round

632
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Speaker 6: pick out of Arizona. Yeah, Cole Strange playing great a

633
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 6: single sack this year at right guard. He was with us,

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Speaker 6: That is, he was interesting. He's played really really well.

635
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 6: Was a first round pick out of Tennessee Chattanooga of

636
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Speaker 6: the Patriots in twenty two. Bounced around, But man, that

637
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 6: feels like with our depth issues, he might be he

638
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Speaker 6: might have been a valuable member of our community.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was signed to the practice squad on August twenty eighth,

641
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Speaker 2: so right after cutdowns, right after cutdowns, he's released by

642
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: the Patriots as part of their final cutdowns and then

643
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: signed by US two days later, and then they signed

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Speaker 2: him on September ninth to the active roster.

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Speaker 3: After their first game.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

647
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Speaker 6: Interesting very defensively. It's a four man front.

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Speaker 3: They've got a lot of investment on this line.

649
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 6: Their Ed Dresher's Bradley Chubb, former first rounder, Chop Robinson,

650
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Speaker 6: a first rounder, Jalen Phillips, a first rounder. Kenneth Grant,

651
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Speaker 6: a defensive tackle, was their first rounder this year. Zach Seeler,

652
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Speaker 6: who was the defensive tackles at ten sacks in each

653
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Speaker 6: of last year, he struggled no sack so far this year.

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Speaker 3: Their linebacker Jordan Brooks leads.

655
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Speaker 6: The NFL sixty six tackles and sixty one of them

656
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Speaker 6: or forty one of them sorry solo. That is also

657
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: the most solo tackles in the NFL. They have been

658
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 6: not great on defense. Like I said, you can run

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Speaker 6: on them. Their secondary has not been great. Remember they

660
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Speaker 6: get rid of Jalen Ramsey. They brought in Minka Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 6: He's got an interception, which is their only interception of

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Speaker 6: the whole season. They only have one, So this is

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Speaker 6: not a great defense. I think we absolutely should be

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Speaker 6: able to get after this football team. I mean, it

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Speaker 6: seems to me like it makes the most sense that

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Speaker 6: we would be able to get after them. They have

667
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Speaker 6: struggled there. He is great swag, but yeah, this is

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Speaker 6: they're not.

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Speaker 2: He gives you the shout going down the stairs, little

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Speaker 2: little taste, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not.

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Speaker 6: This is not a great not a great defense, bottom line,

673
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Speaker 6: not a great defense. And we've got to be able

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Speaker 6: to take advantage of that and hopefully we can favorite

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Speaker 6: dolphin of all time it's probably Dan Marino. Those Isotona

676
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Speaker 6: ads were great, so great. Got he could sling a glove,

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Speaker 6: couldn't he. Yeah, and then you had like the Mark

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Speaker 6: Clayton mark Duper, super duper super duper is incredible nickname

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Speaker 6: to have. Yeah, it's they don't have.

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Speaker 2: For all of the glamour that Miami is, they don't

681
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Speaker 2: really have like this history of glamorous players. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean more recently with Waddell and obviously Tyreek's was

683
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Speaker 2: incredible when he was at his apex for them and

684
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Speaker 2: arguably the best weapon in the league when he first

685
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Speaker 2: got there. But they don't have like a steady diet

686
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Speaker 2: of those guys like Ricky Williams is a big deal

687
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Speaker 2: down there for a little bit, resuscitated his career, but

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Speaker 2: they they just haven't had those guys, I mean.

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Speaker 3: They haven't been glamorous on offense.

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Speaker 6: I mean their best players if you think about from

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Speaker 6: Marino till now are are Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas

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Speaker 6: both defensive players?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pats Are Tan, right, Patser Tan? Yeah? Sam Madison

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Speaker 3: was he a Dolphin as well?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think he was? Was Jalen Ramsey there too?

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Speaker 6: After after La Right, they traded they make a trade?

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. No, Yeah they don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't really have a lot of glamour to it.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because it's actually a pretty good fan base.

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Speaker 3: There's a die hard fan boy. Yeah, they're Dolphin fans everywhere.

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Speaker 2: But anytime somebody shows you that would show you, especially

703
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Speaker 2: before they did the same renovation. People complain about people

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Speaker 2: not going. I'm like, it's ninety degrees. If you go

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Speaker 2: to South Beach. There's two hundred and fifty thousand people

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Speaker 2: on Miami Beach having the time, like having the time

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Speaker 2: of their lives. They're not giving you their Sundays. They

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Speaker 2: got options.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're on boats. Options, they're on boats. They've got

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Speaker 3: a real option. I think it's a pretty dang good.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a pretty dang good fan base. I

712
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Speaker 3: really do. It's a very good fan base.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been down there since they did like the

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Speaker 2: canopy and stuff.

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Speaker 3: It still doesn't when it's hot, it's hot.

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Speaker 6: I mean we were down there in November because I

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Speaker 6: remember it was right after El Boot's Barmit bar Mitzvass,

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I had to fly in that morning. I

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Speaker 6: did my sideline hits in the morning, did Browns Countdown

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Speaker 6: on News five, And I took my jacket off and

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Speaker 6: I had a sweat stain on my shirt that perfectly

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Speaker 6: matched everywhere my jacket was like it was. However, my

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Speaker 6: rest of the shirt and different type of heat, different

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Speaker 6: type of heat.

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Speaker 4: Different.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we just talked about the upcoming Dolphins game on

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Speaker 2: We're right on everything on this segment. Basically everything just

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Speaker 3: And I can't confirm nor deny those reports. We'll get

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Speaker 2: shop for football of the collegiate variety. It's time for

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Speaker 2: four Downs with college football, Nate and your uncle Bo.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Gibbe, Hi, what's wrong? Did you just get an email?

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Speaker 4: I don't know? Did I.

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: Just say no, That's what I'm saying. Just say, no,

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Speaker 3: I feel does anything? Does this have anything to do

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Speaker 3: with me? Defect me? No? O, thank god? No me?

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Speaker 3: And you know And I'm saying forgive me.

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Speaker 4: Know either forgive No, I don't even know what that means.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this guy ain't gonna be there. Nope, nope, I.

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Speaker 10: Don't know who is.

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Speaker 3: That's a hard note. New phone? Who is phe? New phone?

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Speaker 3: Who does? That's a hard that's a hard note for me, Dog.

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Speaker 4: I think you have the wrong number.

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Speaker 3: That's a hard no for me. I'm gonna go ahead

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Speaker 3: and go ahead and decline.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't even know what that could possibly

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Speaker 4: but nope, not it.

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Speaker 3: I click declined.

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Speaker 4: Nope on that note. Thank you for bringing it to

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Speaker 4: my attention. I deleted time for four downs.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it?

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Speaker 4: Keperstown, all right? Before I ask you who should be?

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Speaker 4: I did want to ask this, what is the infatuation

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Speaker 4: with giving college football coaches like ten year contracts?

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Speaker 2: It's a product of one man, Billy Sexton, who's the

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Speaker 2: uh Jimmy Sexton rather, who's the age agent, is the

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Speaker 2: agent of college super bowl agent, super agent.

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Speaker 3: He basically works for.

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Speaker 2: It feels to me like eighty percent of college football

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Speaker 2: coaches are represented by him, and he's incredible, and every

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Speaker 2: time that there is an opening, he will leverage multiple

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Speaker 2: of his clients against their current employer for that opening.

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Speaker 2: So James Franklin was given Barber was her name. The

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Speaker 2: previous athletic director was given a massive contract. I can't

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Speaker 2: remember which job was open at the time. It could

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Speaker 2: have been when Lincoln Riley went to USC, it could

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Speaker 2: have been when Marcus Freeman went to Notre Dame. But

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Speaker 2: they leak out that they could have an interest in

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Speaker 2: James Franklin and then they go back and he gets

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Speaker 2: a massive long term deal and so that's it. And

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Speaker 2: in the old days they would hide it under the

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Speaker 2: guise of like, well, I have to be able to

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Speaker 2: tell recruits I'm going to be here.

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Speaker 3: That's what I would think. I got to tell the kids,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be here. I need a ten year deal

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Speaker 3: so that they know I'm here for their whole career

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Speaker 3: and all of that. But with then IL and free portal,

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Speaker 3: it's all nonsense.

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Speaker 4: This is this is ridiculous, and it is eights and

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Speaker 4: colleges need to step in enough of these ten year

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Speaker 4: like yeah, okay, you want to go, I'm gonna call

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Speaker 4: your bluff. I don't think someone else is that interested

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Speaker 4: and you'd give you a ten year deal.

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Speaker 3: Let me break it down for you.

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Speaker 6: You know who needs to step in is the nil

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Speaker 6: collectives and say we're not every few years selling out

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Speaker 6: an extra fifty million to correct a problem.

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Speaker 2: They're the only ones who can. But the problem is,

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Speaker 2: and this Franklin thing is a good example of this.

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Speaker 2: You reach a tipping point as a as A as

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Speaker 2: a big money booster, where you've had enough, and then

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Speaker 2: at that point it's like, I'm sick of bailing out

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Speaker 2: my university, but damn it, I'm gonna bail them out

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Speaker 2: because I can't stand for this anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And that's how it happens. That's how Franklin was fired. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there was. There was a thread

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Speaker 2: about that, but I talked to my buddy Rich Scarcela,

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Speaker 2: who writes has covered him for thirty years at The

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Speaker 2: Reading Eagle, and he was saying that three or four

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Speaker 2: boosters just kind of came in and.

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Speaker 3: Said, yeah, we're good, we're out.

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Speaker 2: There is some smoke to the Adida stuff, but it

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Speaker 2: doesn't have to do with the Franklin gotcha.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, But that's why it is.

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Speaker 2: They that's why they're doing the trying it talking about

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Speaker 2: doing private equity, all these things because none of them

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Speaker 2: want to give back the money. Like athletic directors shouldn't

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Speaker 2: make three and a half million dollars a year either,

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Speaker 2: But that's they're not giving their money back. Coaches aren't

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Speaker 2: giving their money backs. The cats out of the bag

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I was doing some research, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 4: the highest paid college coach is Kirby Smart at thirteen

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Speaker 4: million a year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, there's five or six NFL coaches making

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Speaker 4: more than that?

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Speaker 3: Is there? Now?

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Speaker 4: Not men? Is that many more? But there are? I

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Speaker 4: want to say, I think it's five.

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Speaker 3: Like Andy and Andy.

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Speaker 4: I think Harbaugh, it might be both.

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Speaker 2: Hardball's Actually yeah, I'd be surprised if Rabel wasn't making that.

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Speaker 4: I'll look here, I had it posted.

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Speaker 3: But that's why. Okay, but it's there.

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Speaker 4: That's why I'm deal. It's it's like a three year,

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Speaker 4: four year deal in the pros, maybe a five if

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Speaker 4: you're if you're lucky.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's like Jimbo Fisher. They had to write that

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Speaker 2: check for Jimbo Fishers. Yeah, to get out of that deal.

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Speaker 3: Gross.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, that being said, who should the next

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Speaker 4: coach of the Penn State Nitney Lions be college football Nate.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to dig deep into the corllege

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Speaker 2: football Nate recesses here.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be honest with you. It really should be.

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Speaker 6: It's a guy whos named India Signetti.

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Speaker 4: Signetti.

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Speaker 6: It should be Signetti. He should leave there, go to

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Speaker 6: Penn State. Bigger history, probably bigger pocketbooks. I know that Indian.

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Speaker 6: Obviously he's built it. He was a winner, he said it,

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Speaker 6: but he would be. He would be somebody that I

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Speaker 6: think would be on that list.

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Speaker 2: So he's a Pittsburgh guy, so he's got natural ties.

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Speaker 2: The only thing with him is he's sixty four, so

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Speaker 2: it's a tighter window maybe, Yeah, but what you're looking for,

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Speaker 2: you're looking for a three to five.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's what you're looking for.

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Speaker 6: Three to five and you're looking for you know that

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Speaker 6: hopefully there's somebody a star on his staff that would

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Speaker 6: be a.

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Speaker 3: Natural yeah, replacement. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the one that's one that's getting a lot of

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Speaker 2: noise is Matt Ruhle, who's currently at Nebraska. He's a

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Speaker 2: former Penn State player, so he's getting a lot and

878
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: he did not he was pressed about it and did

879
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: not deny it in any way and talked glowingly about

880
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: his alma mater and the BRESSA a really hard job.

881
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't think that I would not do that. This

882
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: is what I've said about Penn State. Isn't the off

883
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: his rows well put? Yeah, I think they're five and

884
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 2: one this year, so it could be getting back on.

885
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: But this is what I think. Don't worry about ties

886
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: to Pennsylvania. Don't worry about does he know the recruiting base.

887
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: The critical thing is be charismatic, because what that job

888
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: is now, You're a salesman. You're selling your boosters, you're

889
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: selling recruits, you're selling the portal. You are always be closing.

890
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: That's that business now, you see. And if it's someone

891
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: who's charismatic with an offensive lean, all the better. Like

892
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't want this guy to ever leave All Miss,

893
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: but like I would love to see Lane Kiffin in

894
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 2: a job like that where he had unlimited resources and

895
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: all that goes with it. Feels like Old Miss is

896
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: perfect for him, So I don't think he will. But

897
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: at the same time, like, go get somebody young, bright,

898
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: full of energy, full of charisma. Don't worry about ties

899
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: to Penn State. Ryan Day has ties to the state

900
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: of Ohio. Not ties to Ohio state that's worked out.

901
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: Steve Sarkisian had no ties to Texas. Dan Lanning had

902
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: no ties to Oregon. Nick Saban had no ties to Alabama.

903
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer had nose ties to Florida. Get somebody good

904
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: who's young and got energy, g man.

905
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 8: Bring back Bill O'Brien.

906
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't feel any of those boys, I got

907
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: a name for you. What about Matt Patricia?

908
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 5: Uh?

909
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: I actually thought about him. I just don't know if

910
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: after just this short of time in Columbus, if he

911
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: would have a full to fully wrap his head around

912
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 2: everything that goes at being football head coach. Not quite

913
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: sure that that He's been very charismatic in Columbus. It's

914
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: a totally different dude. And I thought, like, Yeah, my

915
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: impression of it was maybe he thought that's how he

916
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: had to be in Detroit, because that's only new from Bill.

917
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: Dude. He is so fun.

918
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's joking, joking in the press conferences. He calls

919
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: every reporter by name, everybody. Yeah, because all of a

920
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: sudden he's a mad scientist with the most talent, have

921
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: the time of his life.

922
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: I like that name.

923
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: I just don't know. If it was a year later,

924
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 2: I probably want one. They're in a critical spot. They

925
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: really got to hit that coach. They got to hit

926
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: leave about her now, No, his name is being talked about.

927
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: I think the thing with Signetty is just age. And

928
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: then right now, like he has, he.

929
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: Wins, he's a winner.

930
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: He does google him right now. There's actually a really

931
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: cool story I can't remember where I read it over

932
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: the weekend about Indiana and how like Cuban who's an alumnus,

933
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 2: Like they are really mobilized football school.

934
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

935
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: So like they got there, they got their money rolling,

936
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, we can win here.

937
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: He's embraced free agency absolutely football.

938
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got Mendoza from Cal.

939
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: Exact opposite of Debo, so they.

940
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: Might opposite exact opposite. Yeah, so he might think this

941
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: is a better So.

942
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: He might say, I'm sixty four, like these guys, if

943
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: I stay here front of the three or four years,

944
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: they're going to build a statue of me. I'm doing

945
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: stuff that's never been done at Indiana, like versus trying

946
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: to fix that. I already got this hummon at this

947
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: point in my life. This might be a better job.

948
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: I think Patricia, I think rules not old, but he's

949
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: not young. No, he's uh what what in Baylor he was?

950
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: He had really good success.

951
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: He had really good success at Temple, pretty good at Baylor,

952
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: fell on his face in the NFL. And he does

953
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 2: have Nebraska kind of heading in the right direction now.

954
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

955
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: I don't what about uh Matt Campbell, Yeah, I just

956
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: don't know.

957
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: Like his name has been bandied about for honestly about

958
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: a decade. He's a local guy, He's a perry guy.

959
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: Oh shut up.

960
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: What I don't know, though, is like I don't know

961
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: if he's a good coach or not. Like he's got

962
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: three losses this year at Iowa State. He had Brock

963
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: Purdy and brace Hall. They didn't win anything, Like I don't.

964
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: It seems like he doesn't. That's a really hard place

965
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: to play, So I'm not. I just don't know, Like

966
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: what would happen if all? Why hasn't he gotten a

967
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: job yet? That's what I always coming back to, Like

968
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: he's wanted a place that it's really hard to win,

969
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: and he can't get a job, and he's he would

970
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: have called bare chested from Ames, Iowa to ann Arbor

971
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: under barbed wire for that job and didn't get it.

972
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: And same thing at Ohio State.

973
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: They didn't even interview him, Like what's where, where's the disconnect?

974
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: What am I missing? There's something there I don't know.

975
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 6: Is Penn State in terms of attractiveness of an opening

976
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 6: in college football?

977
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: It is number one?

978
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 6: But if you were going to like just rank if

979
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 6: every job became available, it's a.

980
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: Job right there.

981
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: There are true blue Cadillac jobs are Ohio State, Michigan,

982
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Alabama, USC, Texas, Oklahoma, maybe LSU, Georgia, Georgia.

983
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 2: Penn State's in that group. Yep, they're in that. To me,

984
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: they're that LSU, LSU Florida, Probably not Georgia because you

985
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: know the resources they're they're right around there. They're somewhere

986
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: between eight and twelve.

987
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 4: Would you put like, but would they be third in

988
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: the Big ten behind Oregon and Ohio State?

989
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: Michigan's they're behind Michigan. I would go Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon,

990
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: Penn State.

991
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're the fourth in the Big ten.

992
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: And USC they're like, that's a really interesting one, Like,

993
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: is us see a better job than Penn State?

994
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 4: Not given the surroundings.

995
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: And the thing with USC, like Urban always said this,

996
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: like the problem with US is there's.

997
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: Enough fat people. That's what he's said, you know, like

998
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: where's all my Where am I getting my linemen? You know?

999
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: And so that's always But I mean, also the other

1000
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: thing I keep coming back to is like the right

1001
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: coach at USC, but you can have a dynasty because

1002
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 2: there's an in factor to USC that Penn State does

1003
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 2: not have. Yep, Like you can recruit the number one

1004
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: player in the country to USC. It's harder to do

1005
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: that at Penn State.

1006
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: So I mean maybe they're not even top.

1007
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: Four, yeah four, say right in there.

1008
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 4: All right? Going back to that Kirby Smart and who

1009
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 4: makes more in the NFL? Andy Reid at twenty million,

1010
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 4: Sean Painton at eighteen, John Harbaugh seventeen, Tomlins sixteen, Jim

1011
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 4: Harbaugh sixteen, Sean mcvagh fifteen, Kyle Shanahan fourteen.

1012
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: That's seven coaches. That's a new development. That's a recent

1013
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: development because it used to be like a lot of

1014
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: guys stayed in college because they paid more, But the

1015
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: NFL has flipped that in the last few years.

1016
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: Yep.

1017
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 6: Uh, first seventy sports second. Oh yeah, I love those

1018
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 6: every year.

1019
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 4: All right, second down mel kiper Junior's top twenty five

1020
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: Big Board out this week. He also lists at the

1021
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: end his top ten at every position, including quarterback. Who

1022
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: should be higher, who should be lower? College football Nate

1023
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: his quarterbacks. I'll read them off while you go through them.

1024
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 4: One Dante More, Oregon. Two Fernando Mendoza, Indiana, three, Ty

1025
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: Simpson Alabama, four Leonora Sellers South Carolina, five Matier from Oklahoma,

1026
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: six Carson Beck from Miami. Sevens Smyer from LSU. Eight

1027
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: Is Levit from Arizona State, Mayaba, ninth from USC Drew

1028
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: Aller from Penn State, YO.

1029
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: What I think's really funny about this before college football,

1030
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: Nate goes, if you go just back to the start

1031
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: of this college football season, which is six weeks old,

1032
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 2: the top of this list, had he done this in August,

1033
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: would have been in some order arch Manning, Leonora Sellers

1034
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: probably would have been on there. Nussmeyer would have been

1035
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: very very high on that list. Kid Clubnick would have

1036
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 2: been on that list. He's nowhere even on this list.

1037
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 2: Drew Aller would have been at the top. Aller's ten

1038
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: Sellers is still four. Manning's nowhere to be found, and

1039
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: club Nick's nowhere to be found. Manning might not be

1040
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 2: there because he knows he's not coming out well, but

1041
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't know Dante Moore's coming out.

1042
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: He's not a senior, true, Lenora Sellers isn't a senior.

1043
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw it out of there. I don't think

1044
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,479
Speaker 4: he's got number one right as of right now.

1045
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Dante Moore started one year at UCLA, sat last year

1046
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: at Oregon, and then started this year for Oregon, and

1047
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: he sat last year behind Dylan. He's really good. He

1048
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: threw two pretty bad picks last weekend in the loss

1049
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: to Indiana. I would not I would not say, like, yeah,

1050
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: take him number one overall based on what I've seen

1051
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: to this point. That's it's funny, like this all shifted.

1052
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: Everyone said, oh, this is your quarterback draft. There's gonna

1053
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 2: be six first rounders, and maybe there will. But there's

1054
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: not a consensus like there even last year starting to

1055
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: build with like cam Ward, there just isn't.

1056
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: I think I probably like Mendoza one.

1057
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 4: More to.

1058
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 6: Matier three. I don't know enough about ty Simpson college football,

1059
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 6: and he doesn't know can you give me some ty Simpson.

1060
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: Ty Simpson, he's I mean, they have no run game

1061
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: right now in Alabama. He makes a lot of clutch plays.

1062
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: He was brutal in the game against Florida State. But

1063
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: he's played well the last three weeks.

1064
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 4: To say, as a team they've played.

1065
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 2: They've played really well. They've they've escaped. I mean, they've

1066
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: definitely played with fire a lot of close games. Matier,

1067
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 2: you've seen him, He's kind of like a B plus

1068
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: version of Bake. I would say, Yeah, I think my

1069
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: Ava could end up being decent. The kid at USC

1070
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: he throws a really nice ball. He plays at Michigan

1071
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 2: this week, so that'll be or No, they just beat Michigan.

1072
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 2: He plays, oh, Notre Dame, so he get Michigan Notre

1073
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 2: Dame back to back. So he played really well against Michigan.

1074
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: Can he stack that against Notre Dame this week. I'll

1075
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: be watching for that.

1076
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 4: I like.

1077
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: And I still think Carson Beck is still solid.

1078
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always the thing with him is always I

1079
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 2: always go back to this anytime I talk to somebody

1080
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: down from the South, and that is it didn't seem

1081
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: like Georgia cared that he left no, and that was

1082
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: weird to me, Like a guy who led him to

1083
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: heights and was a projected number one pick, had he

1084
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 2: not gotten hurt and all those things. And then they're like, yeah,

1085
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 2: good riddance, We're going to go with Gunner Stockton, who's

1086
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 2: totally middling.

1087
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 6: Is so I've seen limited, limited, but have seen some

1088
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 6: What am I missing on Lenora Sellers?

1089
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 3: He's just not accurate?

1090
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 6: Well yeah, and he's not. Also, yeah, it's not like he's.

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Speaker 2: He's already been hurt, like he's just not he's really raw,

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Speaker 2: just really any But he's not.

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Speaker 3: Also, he's not a he's not dynamic.

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Speaker 2: He's not a cam like he's jumping over people and

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00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: running through people like he's not that he's a really

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00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: big kid. He's a good athlete, not a great athlete.

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Speaker 2: And he's just not very accurate. That doesn't That doesn't

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Speaker 2: work for me, Typically doesn't work. Now, That's what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 2: what we thought this was gonna be it right now

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Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it is.

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Speaker 3: Yep, next turn down, all right.

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Speaker 4: We gotta go rapid fire here because we're up against it.

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00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 4: Contender Pretender Indiana Contender, Contender, Huge Contender, Alabama contender, contender,

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Speaker 4: Texas pretender.

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Speaker 1: Next fourth down.

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Speaker 4: Halfway through the college football season, slow down time, give

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Speaker 4: me your way too early. Heisman Trophy winner, and give

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Speaker 4: me the two teams playing each other for the national

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Speaker 4: championship in January.

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Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I mean, it's hard for me to think that

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Speaker 6: it could be anybody other than at this point, it's

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Speaker 6: either gonna be Mendoza or Julian saying.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith wins the Heisman. And I think the reason

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Speaker 2: that's going to happen is these quarterbacks are all going

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Speaker 2: to kind of even each other out, and I think

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Speaker 2: saying is going to play the best. I think actually

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Speaker 2: saying playing as well as he is is going to

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Speaker 2: help Jeremiah because I think what's going to happen is

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Speaker 2: Julian saying when we get to yeah, but if you

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Speaker 2: watch like it's of course what he does.

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Speaker 3: So like the one.

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Speaker 2: Pick Julian stats is going to be better than every

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Speaker 2: other quarterbacks, and then you're going to as a voter,

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Speaker 2: you're going to go, Ohio State's going to be undefeated

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Speaker 2: or one loss, and you're gonna go, that's the best

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Speaker 2: team in the County's a quarterback of the best team

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Speaker 2: in the country. Yeah, but he's not even the best

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Speaker 2: player on his own offense. And Jeremiah is There's gonna

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Speaker 2: come a time, right anytime they want, they can throw

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Speaker 2: a fade or a slant for a touchdown for him

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Speaker 2: whenever they want.

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Speaker 3: Whenever they want.

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Speaker 2: They just aren't choosing to because they're playing in a

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Speaker 2: different way right now. But I think he's going to

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Speaker 2: have a couple of games, Like I think in the

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Speaker 2: Michigan game he will be completely unleashed. They will unleash

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Speaker 2: him in the Penn State game, and he'll do enough

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Speaker 2: statistically week to week, like he gets a touchdown every week,

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Speaker 2: so he's by the time you get to after the

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Speaker 2: Big Ten championship game, he's gonna end up with thirteen

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Speaker 2: hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns and like that's where it's

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Speaker 2: gonna end up.

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Speaker 3: And then what was the other question, Hio State versus Yeah, same.

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Speaker 2: I think the synergy with the last time they too

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00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: played for a national title. That time, Miami hadn't lost,

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00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: they were undefeated, defending national champions. This time it's the

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00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 2: Buckeyes trying to do the same thing. This Miami team

1150
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: is very real. Beck's playing great. They got a freshman

1151
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: receiver who is a lightning bolt. Their both lines of

1152
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: scrimmage are pretty dominant. They really pushed around Notre Dame,

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00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: which tells you how physical they are. So yeah, and

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Speaker 2: their schedules really easy. They don't leave the state. They

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Speaker 2: don't leave the state of Florida. And I want to

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Speaker 2: say until next week or the week after they go

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Speaker 2: to SMU. It's like eight straight games in the state

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Speaker 2: of Florida for them.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're gonna make some hay here for a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 4: That is four downs for this week.

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Speaker 6: of the program, the safeties coach for your Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 6: from Bonda.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for having me coach.

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Speaker 3: Good to see it, I mean great to see you.

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Speaker 3: You'll expectacular by the way.

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Speaker 10: Now let me just start with that, just trying to

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Speaker 10: be like you.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't have access.

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Speaker 10: This is too good. It's Jim Short and then you.

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Speaker 11: In terms of game day fits, that are you know,

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Speaker 11: top one, top two?

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Speaker 6: Well, hey, I appreciate you saying that. Last week I

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00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 6: came with a vintage sweater. Yeah, I had a Vintance

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Speaker 6: what Earth brownie on it, and Ceciliana was giving me

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Speaker 6: grief about universally praised.

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Speaker 10: Other than that, I think he's gonna give you grief

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Speaker 10: no matter what.

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Speaker 6: I think you'd probably I think you've assessed that pretty accurately.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's just talk a big picture your room.

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Speaker 6: How do you feel your guys have done here through

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00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 6: the first six games.

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Speaker 10: I'm proud of the resiliency.

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Speaker 11: I'm you know, like I said before, when I first

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Speaker 11: got into this room and we talked about it early

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Speaker 11: early in camp.

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Speaker 10: It's a new room.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't you totally.

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Speaker 11: And I'm excited about, you know, where they've got themselves too.

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Speaker 10: In terms of a group.

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Speaker 11: I think the people are understanding their roles, you know,

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Speaker 11: and understanding how they can affect the team positively in

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Speaker 11: different areas.

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Speaker 10: So I've liked how it's gelled to.

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Speaker 11: This point, and I really like the focus and the attack,

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Speaker 11: the constant attack that needs to be had despite getting

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Speaker 11: the results you want. So I'm I mean excited about

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Speaker 11: that part.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, the one game where we did get the result

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Speaker 6: we wanted, Grant had a huge interception in that game,

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Speaker 6: and it seems like he's really kind of blossomed a

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Speaker 6: little bit into a leader on this team. Is that

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Speaker 6: fairness And how have you kind of seen him perform?

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Speaker 10: It was a point of Uh, it was.

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Speaker 11: It was a big point for us to get Grant

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Speaker 11: to really do that for this team. Kevin, you know,

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Speaker 11: talked about it, Jim talked about it, him and I

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Speaker 11: talked about it, and I'm proud of Grant really doing

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Speaker 11: that in a multitude of ways, whether it's vocal on

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Speaker 11: the field, which we all know in the field he's

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Speaker 11: gonna do is gonna do. But taking the reins and

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Speaker 11: really leading this group through good and bad times, he's

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Speaker 11: done a great job. And obviously you know in that

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Speaker 11: situation that that play was huge. I was happy for

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Speaker 11: him his birthday, the whole thing h to make that play,

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Speaker 11: and and him and his desire to get the ball,

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Speaker 11: which is a point of emphasis is this year for

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Speaker 11: the team, but also for him to make that play

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Speaker 11: was fun to see.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 6: So we broke that one down on the film breakdown.

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Speaker 6: And now you can expose me for not knowing any because.

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Speaker 4: I do not.

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Speaker 3: When I do those, I am not I'm not privy.

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Speaker 6: To the calls obviously, yea, but you know, he kind

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Speaker 6: of that was he went on his own a little

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Speaker 6: bit there and baited them.

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Speaker 10: No, I mean, the biggest thing is and it starts

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Speaker 10: way before.

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Speaker 11: He probably can't even see it on the exos copy,

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Speaker 11: but the communication between him and the rest of the

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Speaker 11: group was key. He identified a look, he identified a split,

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Speaker 11: he identified a situation, and he communicated.

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Speaker 10: Across to that I'm gonna pass him on basically.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And we were working, you know, on the backside

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Speaker 11: with the quarterback who can become a little bit of

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Speaker 11: a runner at that point, Ronnie did a good job

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Speaker 11: just making sure it wasn't and then kicking to the kicking,

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Speaker 11: you know, back to the middle of the field. But ultimately,

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Speaker 11: and it's the biggest thing I've told Grant, good players

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Speaker 11: are good players. Great players make the ones around them better.

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Speaker 11: And the more you can affect those around you and

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Speaker 11: make them better.

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Speaker 10: The better you are and everyone can be.

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Speaker 11: So that was a moment of greatness in the sense

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Speaker 11: that he talked it out, saw it, identified it, and

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Speaker 11: made a play for the team.

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Speaker 6: So in a situation like that, and again you can

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Speaker 6: correct me if I'm wrong, but let's say that was

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Speaker 6: just that was man. But he said, I know what

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00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 6: they're gonna do here, I'm gonna let him go. You

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Speaker 6: pick me up on the backside, and I'm jumping.

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Speaker 11: It was an in end call and we did a

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Speaker 11: great job communicating all that awesome. So and again in

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Speaker 11: certain releases, certain situations where.

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Speaker 10: You have that or you don't, you can't.

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00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 11: But again, it was just a really good job throughout

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Speaker 11: the week of identifying something that we've talked about on tape,

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Speaker 11: something he saw and then applying it on the field

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Speaker 11: in game.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome. Man, Yeah, helped us get you a

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00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 3: much needed win there.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about the guy who's hit back there with

1279
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 6: him the majority of time, Ronnie Hickman, third on this

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Speaker 6: team in tackles. He's had some big weeks, especially kind

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Speaker 6: of the last three or the two going into the

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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh game, and played well in that game as well.

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Speaker 6: He's it feels like he's just kind of blossomed.

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Speaker 10: He's playing really well. I'm proud of him.

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 11: We've talked about how big this year is for him,

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00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 11: but also if he can play great, how that's going

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Speaker 11: to help this group in this team. He's taking the reins,

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00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 11: he's he's really a super intelligent player, but now he's

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Speaker 11: able to just orchestrate back there and communicate, and he's

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Speaker 11: doing a great job of just keeping everyone on the

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Speaker 11: same page, making.

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Speaker 10: Sure that we're all right and we're all doing.

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00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 11: The same things. But then, you know, the other part

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00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 11: that I'm just really pleased with him is is his tackling.

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01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 11: You know, he's really really done a great job of

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01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 11: ten two weeks ago.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it was his career high. But it's

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Speaker 10: the it's the tackles that are key.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 11: It's one thing if you're assisting and all that, which

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01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 11: is good, and he's getting to the ball because he's

1302
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 11: chasing the ball, But those high leverage situations, open field

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 11: tackles are tough and you're not gonna make them all

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01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 11: and you know he had, he's missed one or or

1305
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,479
Speaker 11: maybe two throughout the year. But if you can get

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Speaker 11: those open field tackles on the ground and attack defense

1307
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 11: where you're gonna be susceptible to some situations because of

1308
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 11: how we play. If your free safety can eliminate the

1309
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 11: rack and those situations and give us another opportunity to

1310
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 11: keep playing defense, we do that consistently, we'll get off

1311
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 11: the field. And that's what I'm really proud of him.

1312
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 11: And again, it's the hardest play for safety in football

1313
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 11: to make. We wrap it a lot, you see us

1314
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 11: in practice. But he's done a great job of sinking

1315
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 11: his teeth, you know, into a body part violent rapping

1316
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 11: and get it on ground. Sometimes you're gonna get run over,

1317
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 11: but the balls stopped and we get a chance to

1318
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 11: play again.

1319
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 6: What does it say to you that he's doing a

1320
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 6: lot of this from kind of a single high position.

1321
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 3: We play as much of that as anybody in the.

1322
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 6: League, but to still be reading his key's reading it

1323
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 6: correctly and then making sure he is a part of

1324
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 6: the plays because you know, sometimes you see single hized

1325
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,479
Speaker 6: safeties are just they're just gonna chill back there and

1326
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 6: let you know, you guys take care of this.

1327
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, I hate that, and it's probably been if people

1328
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 11: watch safeties that I've coached over the years, there they

1329
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 11: know that that's not.

1330
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 10: That's not the way we work.

1331
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 11: Oh way, I'll coach it because you can't. I mean,

1332
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 11: you can't play ten on eleven. It's because you're a post.

1333
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 11: Safety doesn't mean you give you twenty thirty yards. Now,

1334
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 11: there's times and ops for that, but you need to

1335
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 11: be involved. And he's done a great job again of

1336
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 11: overlapping the third level and then being there when things

1337
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 11: you know, go wrong and putting fires out. We talk

1338
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 11: about it. Safeties are firefighters. They got to put fires out,

1339
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 11: they got to run into the fire, and he's done

1340
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 11: that at a high level. So you know, again, I'm

1341
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 11: just really pleased where he's at. Hopefully these things continue,

1342
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 11: which I think they will, and he's worked really really

1343
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 11: hard to get to this point.

1344
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 6: And we play as much three safety as anybody Ray

1345
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 6: Sean obviously, guys come in over one hundred games in

1346
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 6: the league, a veteran.

1347
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 10: How's he been He's been awesome. And again for Ray

1348
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 10: one hundred games, right, that's what you said.

1349
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 11: It's correll Y that's wild and has been a really

1350
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 11: successful safety in this league. And now he's transitioning into

1351
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 11: you know, that last part of his career a lot

1352
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 11: like Roddy McLeod and and now he's learning a new

1353
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 11: role right in a new situation for himself, and how

1354
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 11: does he fit in? And I'm really really happy and

1355
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,959
Speaker 11: pleased with with that. You know, he's he's the OG

1356
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 11: now and he's got to take the OG roles in

1357
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 11: the situations. And he's done a great job special teams.

1358
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 11: You know, he's killed it on special teams. The thing

1359
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 11: that kind of sometimes goes unnoticed is some of those

1360
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 11: those tackles he's made that if he doesn't get it

1361
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 11: on the ground, it can be even worse.

1362
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 10: He's done a lot of that.

1363
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 11: He's came in on third down situations and is finding

1364
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 11: his ways to impact the game and situational downs and

1365
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 11: then whenever we need something on you know, on normal downs, he's.

1366
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 10: Ready in there. So I'm really glad.

1367
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 11: It's fun for me to have coached him in college

1368
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 11: and now getting the opportunity to coach him now, it's

1369
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 11: been it's been really good to have him here.

1370
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: That's school. How has he kind of evolved since he

1371
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 3: coached him in college?

1372
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 4: Oh?

1373
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 11: Man, Uh, he's just grown as a father, as a man,

1374
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 11: as a professional. You know, people don't understand like Rayshawn

1375
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 11: at O crazy background coming up.

1376
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 10: Uh, you know, he's he's special. He's a one percenter.

1377
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 11: And for him to come from everything he's been through

1378
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 11: to this point to see the father he is to

1379
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 11: his children, the husband he is you know to his wife,

1380
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 11: and and the professional he's become. I mean, that's why

1381
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 11: I coach. Those are the things that you do it for.

1382
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 11: Those are the things that you enjoy seeing young men

1383
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 11: grow into to you know, really beautiful strong men.

1384
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 10: Is what's fun about it?

1385
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 6: Yes, and and we talked to that, as your daughter

1386
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 6: would say, what also is fun about this game?

1387
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 3: Winning is more funner.

1388
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 6: We've got to we've got to get there right, you know,

1389
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 6: how do you guys look the defenses, you know, one

1390
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 6: of the top three depending on with what's that You're

1391
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 6: looking at the top three, top five defenses in the

1392
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 6: National Football League and we're not getting the results we

1393
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 6: want in a very much a team game. How do

1394
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 6: you keep the guys focused? How do you keep you know,

1395
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 6: this team all rolling in the same direction. And I

1396
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 6: know you have a small portion of that defense, but

1397
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 6: you know safe it bleeds into everything.

1398
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, now, it's a good question.

1399
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 11: And like I said, my daughter, she she tells me

1400
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 11: it's not whether you win or lose, but winning is

1401
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 11: more funner.

1402
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 10: So she is one hundred percent right.

1403
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 11: And to answer that question, all you can do is

1404
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 11: understand that the gift is the present.

1405
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 10: That's the true gift, and you got to live in it.

1406
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 11: And yes, I get that the past can pull and

1407
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 11: chain you and try to pin you down, and the

1408
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 11: future can scare you. The only thing you can control

1409
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 11: is right now, and that's all you can focus on.

1410
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 11: And you got to let go of the of those

1411
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 11: chains that are pulling you back, and you can't think

1412
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 11: about the future. And you just have to be delusional.

1413
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 11: You have this mindset of delusion, delusional attack on what

1414
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 11: you're doing right now, and if you do that, if

1415
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 11: you just stay here in this moment and you focus

1416
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 11: on what's in front of you and this day, and

1417
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 11: you attack it with the mentality that if you do this,

1418
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 11: things will.

1419
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 10: Work out for you. You'll be fine. And that's the

1420
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 10: biggest thing for us in the room right now.

1421
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 11: What can we do right now to get better to

1422
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 11: help this defense that ultimately helps this team achieve the

1423
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 11: funner things in the game. And that's what we're solely

1424
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 11: focused on. And I will say this the room, I'm

1425
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 11: very very I'm very very proud of that mentality and

1426
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 11: that attack that constant just go keep pushing mentality. It's

1427
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 11: the resiliency that Kevin talks about. It's the culture, and

1428
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 11: I'm very very as a coach, those are the things

1429
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 11: that you love to see for.

1430
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 6: Your guys and really kind of for the defense in general.

1431
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 6: But it feels like kind of three weeks in a

1432
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 6: row now, teams have had a similar game plan and

1433
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 6: that they're just they're going to get the ball out

1434
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 6: quick and they're gonna take some one on ones on

1435
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 6: the outside when they get them. But for the most there,

1436
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 6: you get out quick and they're not gonna give us

1437
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 6: really chances to make plays and they're.

1438
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: Happy to punt it back to us. Yeah, how do

1439
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: you kind of stay patient with that?

1440
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 6: Because teams are basically saying, we're not gonna let you

1441
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 6: guys win this game. We're just gonna kind of take

1442
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 6: our chances where we can.

1443
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 10: You know, you got to you gotta stay disciplined.

1444
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 11: You have to just do your job, like Kevin and

1445
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 11: Jim say, and you got to let the things come

1446
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 11: to you when they do. You got to let the

1447
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 11: plays come to you when they do. Our d line's

1448
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 11: done a great job, Jock and Amo. You know, those

1449
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 11: guys are getting after it and there's not a lot

1450
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 11: of time to throw the ball. And you know, if

1451
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 11: you do try to tack the middle of the field

1452
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 11: on us, you know it's gonna.

1453
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 10: Be very, very difficult.

1454
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 11: You're we're gonna force the really tough throws and we're

1455
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 11: gonna lean on our corners the tip of the spear

1456
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 11: to make those plays.

1457
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,959
Speaker 10: And they're gonna make the majority of those plays for us.

1458
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 10: We just have to do our job.

1459
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 11: And when they do, when they actually say I'm gonna

1460
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 11: go ahead and take this chance, we got to capitalize.

1461
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 11: And that's the key. But you can't chase. If you chase,

1462
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 11: bad things happen. And that's the hardest part because the

1463
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 11: anxiety and the desire to do something is hard hard

1464
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 11: to fight when you just got to stay disciplined in

1465
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 11: your role. And that's the focus right now. And they'll

1466
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 11: turn it will happen. We'll get our ops, just like

1467
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 11: you know, the media was asking me about, you know,

1468
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 11: takeaways and turnovers early in the year, and I said, hey,

1469
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 11: just do your job.

1470
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 10: They'll come. And sure enough they started to come.

1471
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 11: And we've had a couple other ops where we've just

1472
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 11: they we didn't get the ball one time, they didn't

1473
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 11: wardice the ball one time. A couple of times we're punching,

1474
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 11: we're scratching. That ball's moving around. If you watch some

1475
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 11: of those things, it's coming.

1476
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 10: We just got a state of course.

1477
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 6: All right, Dolphins a lot of pre snap motion. Yeah

1478
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 6: they don't have Tyreek Hill, but they still love Jalen Waddle.

1479
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 6: They got a chan who's got a lot of speed,

1480
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 6: Darren Waller. And one of the craziest stories I think

1481
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 6: in the league right is just out of the league

1482
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 6: and it comes back and catching touchdowns every single week.

1483
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 6: You know, they've got speed, they've got a lot of motion.

1484
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 6: They're going to try to cause confusion kind of right

1485
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 6: as the ball is snapped, how do you kind of

1486
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 6: deal with and try to slow them such a ri

1487
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 6: it's very much a rhythm rhythmic offense when when it's functioning.

1488
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 11: Very well designed, I mean, just eye candy everywhere, motion shifts, trades,

1489
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 11: lead the NFL speed. Like you said, they're gonna tack

1490
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 11: your edges, you know, to who can put the ball anywhere?

1491
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 11: You know, balls out fast. It's just a very very

1492
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 11: well designed offense. And they have all the pieces around it.

1493
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 11: Obviously don't have Tyreek and and you know it's unfortunately

1494
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 11: what happened. But for us, it's about staying true to

1495
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 11: our principles right, protect our edges in multitude of ways, right,

1496
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 11: lean on the things that we do well, right, don't

1497
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 11: get too crazy and complicated.

1498
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 10: They want to get all wild.

1499
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 11: We're cool, we know, you know, Jim's got a great

1500
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 11: plan for us, and it's our job to go in

1501
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 11: there and be us right.

1502
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 10: Ultimately, be us, do what we do well.

1503
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 11: Don't get discreted, don't get you know, don't get blinded

1504
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 11: by all the different stuff. Right, keep your eyes focused

1505
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 11: on what you need to be focused on and communicating,

1506
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 11: talk and deal it out right. That's the key in

1507
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 11: these situations. We've that's how this leagu's turned into this

1508
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 11: leagu's turned into that. Yes, everyone does it at a variance.

1509
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 11: No one does it at the variance that they do

1510
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 11: the Niners other places like, but we understand how to

1511
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 11: play against these defenses. We're built that way, Jim's designed

1512
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 11: it that way, and we're ready.

1513
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 10: For it, and we're exciting.

1514
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 3: We're excited as well.

1515
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 6: It's going to be get you guys back home in

1516
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 6: front of the home crowd and hopefully have a little

1517
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 6: bit more magic and get one of those big wins.

1518
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 3: Coach, thanks so much for the time and all the insights.

1519
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 10: Appreciate you guys having me. Always good to be here.

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Speaker 2: He's the best man, he's the best. And you know

1521
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: the thing, we had Zastil in here yesterday and he

1522
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: and I were talking about it, and we're talking about

1523
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: I asked him, I'm like, you know, how do you

1524
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,879
Speaker 2: make sure that everybody keeps rolling in the same direction?

1525
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: And he gave kind of a simple answer. He said, Look,

1526
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: it's professional football, you're pros go do your job. And

1527
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: that's something that is hard to shut off, that part

1528
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: of your brain when the struggle bus is on, do

1529
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: your job, handle your business, four to six, eight to

1530
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: Z and onto the next He's you.

1531
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 6: Know, he's been obviously a defensive coordinator in college. He

1532
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 6: speaks like a head coach. I think he's another one

1533
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 6: of our really really really good coaches who gets it here.

1534
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 6: You know, between Tarvor and him and b Lynch jaxies

1535
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 6: are on the defensive side, you have really great coaches.

1536
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 6: And I think that's what's so. I think when people.

1537
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 3: Get so focused on man, you.

1538
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 6: Know, calling for significant change, there's a lot of trickle

1539
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 6: down in that. Now, some people survive and stay through,

1540
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 6: but that's that's often rare. And we've got a lot

1541
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 6: of good coaches here, certainly on the defensive side of

1542
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 6: the ball. That's not anything about the offenseite. But yeah,

1543
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 6: you know we have good coaches there. Some of them

1544
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 6: are new, some of them have been here for a while.

1545
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 6: We think we have a new tight end coach, new

1546
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 6: offensive line coach, obviously, a receiver coach have been here.

1547
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 6: Quarterback coach has been here at least for a year.

1548
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 6: But first you new year in that role, and then Deuce,

1549
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 6: who's awesome. There's just a lot that goes. There's a lot,

1550
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 6: it's it's it's a big deal. But I think the

1551
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,839
Speaker 6: world of Coach Bonda. I think our safeties have been excellent. Yeah,

1552
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 6: and we just we gotta find ways to win because

1553
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 6: it affects all of these guys so so much.

1554
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does.

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01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 2: So get one and it makes it's an elixir at

1557
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Speaker 2: a play by play voice of your Cleveland Browns. Andrew

1577
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 2: Siciliano joining us. Usually, I accuse you of in the

1578
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 2: being in the middle of something right off the gate,

1579
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: so I thought, in order to change it up this week,

1580
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 2: I would just say, what are you doing right now?

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01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 8: I am sitting on the floor in my office.

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 4: Okay.

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01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 8: I was just watching the Dolphins being totally unable to

1584
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 8: stop the run last week against the Chargers, and honestly,

1585
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 8: I was also tapping my foot there to that music

1586
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 8: that you were playing on the bump in because that

1587
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 8: is when I hear that music, I think of Chris

1588
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 8: Berman Sunday Night Highlights with Tom Jackson, and I honestly

1589
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 8: think of Eric Metcalf for whatever.

1590
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 3: Reason, oh as a rookie.

1591
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 8: Specifically his game in Tampa were because I had those

1592
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 8: those highlights from that year on a VHS tape as

1593
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 8: a kid. That's right, and I would wear that VHS

1594
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 8: tape out. And I believe Berman said that day. You've

1595
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 8: heard of stopping on a Paeso, Eric Metcalf can stop

1596
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 8: on a sombrero. And I don't know what that means,

1597
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 8: but that's what I think of when I hear that music.

1598
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 8: That is what I'm doing. Gentlemen, how are you?

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01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 3: We'd We're good.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing like, as you know, you and

1601
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 2: I similar in this regard, and that the teams we

1602
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 2: rooted for were not in our market. Now you at

1603
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: least had a home market for which you could have

1604
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: seen NFL football. I was, We've got a steady die

1605
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: of the Broncos when I was a kid, even though

1606
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: it was well over twelve hours away. Doctor Z got

1607
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 2: to see all of the Niners games, every game that

1608
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: he ever wrote. Baby, So the Berman that was your

1609
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: only way of seeing.

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01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: I was it? Yeah?

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01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 8: Well there was.

1612
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 3: There was one of Moday Night half lights.

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 8: Monday Night half lights but you got to see on

1614
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 8: bah blah blah ba on Inside the NFL on HBO

1615
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 8: so'r NFL films treatment, but you might only get if

1616
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 8: they did the game. You might only get a two

1617
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 8: play at like fifty three past the hour, and then

1618
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 8: you'd be waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting,

1619
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 8: and it would be a super slow mo of like

1620
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 8: Bernie back pedaling and throwing a moon ball to Webster

1621
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 8: Slaughter and that would be the whole highlight. That's it,

1622
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 8: my aunt.

1623
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: But when did that air that entered inside the NFL air?

1624
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: Was that Tuesday night?

1625
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 8: Tuesday night?

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01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 3: Tuesday night?

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01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 8: My aunt would send me the plane dealer in like

1628
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 8: a Manila envelope from Monday morning, but it often wouldn't

1629
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:42,839
Speaker 8: get there until Friday.

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 3: That's awesome. That's that's the only way I used to be.

1631
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was no other way to do it, man,

1632
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 2: was that way to do it. And now you can

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01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 2: watch anything you want whenever you want to watch it. So,

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01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: uh yeah, the times they are a change in my friend, Look,

1635
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: this is this has been a weird schedule.

1636
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it just is what it is.

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: You guys, you got a bus trip to Detroit, then

1638
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 2: a flight to London and then a bus trip to Pittsburgh.

1639
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 3: You haven't been home in a long time.

1640
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 2: I know the home fans are you know you want

1641
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: you can't wait to get back in front of him.

1642
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: This is a very winnable game Sunday, Andrew.

1643
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 5: Yes.

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01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it might be pouring rain too. You guys

1645
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:15,959
Speaker 8: have noticed that, right.

1646
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'll get you the ACI weather up there.

1647
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, it might be rain.

1648
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 6: I think that that's good for us. This is this

1649
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 6: is a Quinshine game. He should be fresh, he should

1650
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 6: be fresh.

1651
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 8: Has changed since last night? No, we're looking at rain

1652
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 8: much like last year. Remember week seventeen?

1653
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god, chance it hasn't It hasn't changed in

1654
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 4: three days?

1655
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Saturday looks spectacular though, as beside seventy eight

1656
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 2: and gorgeous, gorgeous.

1657
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 8: Last year this game was rain.

1658
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 3: You know.

1659
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 8: So I was going through the box score and like

1660
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 8: a couple of things about last year. Number one, I

1661
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 8: forgot that Riley Patterson kicked for the Browns in one

1662
01:15:58,600 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 8: game last year.

1663
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 3: Yeahpensive kicker.

1664
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 8: I remember twenty twenty three, and he was the kicker

1665
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 8: that I obviously beat. The Jets made the playoffs. He

1666
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 8: was the kicker in the playoff game against the Texans.

1667
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 8: All of that I had forgotten that he had kicked

1668
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 8: last year, number one, number two. If you look at

1669
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 8: the skill position players that touched the ball in the game,

1670
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 8: and the quarterbacks were snoop and dtr in the game

1671
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 8: last year. The only three left are Jerry Judy, Jerome Ford,

1672
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 8: and Blake Whiteheart for the.

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01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 6: Browns, yep, and Johnny Smith, if I recall, had a

1674
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 6: pretty solid day and he's now a Steeler exactly.

1675
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 8: So, I mean, this game is so vastly, vastly different.

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01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 8: And like you said, Nathan, you said it before. Qqqq

1677
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 8: qq q. The Chargers were down to their fifth offensive tackle,

1678
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 8: Bobby Hart had never played in a game. He was

1679
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 8: at right tackle, and they mauled the Dolphins on the ground.

1680
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 8: They had one hundred yards well total yards in the

1681
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 8: first quarter alone. Dolphins can't stop the run, they can't

1682
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 8: fit the run, they can't tackle. You need to and

1683
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 8: it's not just Quinn Sean Dylan Sampson. Get him the

1684
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 8: ball too, Like, get these guys the ball and run

1685
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 8: and run and run.

1686
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 6: I think that it's a great idea. Can I get

1688
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 6: some of that. Can I get some of that music again?

1689
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 6: That would be like the countdown music. Yeah, once you

1690
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 6: throw in our primetime, I guess it would be prime time,

1691
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 6: the prime time. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, from last week

1692
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 6: up from last week exactly.

1693
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 3: There it is waiting here you there, you go.

1694
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 12: The LA super Chargers head to Miami without Amarion Hampton,

1695
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 12: but come oni. Vandal Sassoon was silent and profiling as

1696
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 12: he ran for one hundred and twenty four yards and

1697
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 12: had a touchdown out of the backfield.

1698
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 8: I mean, guys, fifth offensive tackle and third running bead well,

1699
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 8: done well. And they they they grinded level.

1700
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 3: I just had Kimani vedallsas.

1701
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, the voluminous hair back in the eighties as well.

1702
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 3: That's right.

1703
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

1704
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 6: Look, I mean it's they're gonna score. We've got a score.

1705
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 6: They've scored twenty plus in five straight. They've given up

1706
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 6: at least twenty in every single game. This has to

1707
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 6: be the game that we break the curse of eighteen points.

1708
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it also, uh, it's also really critical.

1709
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: You have to remember, like we're all in the entertainment

1710
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: business here. Yeah, and these fans just sot. You just

1711
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 2: out there, you just right there. There's the entertainment that's

1712
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: Big B broadcast, But no, you're in the entertainment business.

1713
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 2: And the fans haven't seen this team play in person

1714
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: in a long time. They're gonna sit out there in

1715
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 2: the rain put on a show man, yes, show, time

1716
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 2: to do it.

1717
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 8: But we also have to remember as well that Devon

1718
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 8: Han is as dangerous and offensive players the Browns have

1719
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,839
Speaker 8: faced this year. And I know they faced Jamiir Gibbs,

1720
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 8: but he is that talented. He may not have the

1721
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 8: numbers that Jamiir Gibbs have, they're different guys, but he

1722
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 8: is that explosive. Go back to Week one. The way

1723
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 8: you talk about Jamar Chase and t Higgins, you should

1724
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 8: be talking about Devon h Chan And that might sound blasphemous,

1725
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 8: but this guy is that explosive, not only as a

1726
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 8: running back, but lining them up wide or however they

1727
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 8: use them. Him and Darren Waller is a tough cover.

1728
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,799
Speaker 8: You know, he's off the couch and out of the studio,

1729
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 8: the music studio, that is, he is a tough cover.

1730
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 8: So you can laugh at that either.

1731
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 6: Listen to us throw the e eleven touchdowns this year,

1732
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 6: three to Jalen Waddle, three to h Chan, four in

1733
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 6: three games to Darren Walla. The only other person who's

1734
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 6: kind of touchdown from him all year is Tyreek Hill.

1735
01:19:58,600 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 3: He had one.

1736
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,799
Speaker 6: He is out for this season after that gruesome injury.

1737
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 6: So they're one of those teams where it's like you

1738
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 6: kind of know where the ball's going. Yep, it's going

1739
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 6: to Waddle, it's going to a Chan, or it's going

1740
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 6: to Darren Waller.

1741
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: That is it.

1742
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 6: I mean, Julian Hill, the tight end, has nine catches

1743
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 6: for seventy six yards on the season. Tanner Connor's got

1744
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 6: six for fifty seven. Then you go over here, they're

1745
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 6: full back alec Ingolds got four for thirty six.

1746
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: There are other receivers.

1747
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 5: D s.

1748
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 6: Gridge has two for seventeen, Nick Westbrook A Keene has

1749
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 6: four for twenty six, and Malik Washington. Yeah, he's got

1750
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 6: sixteen catches for sixty nine yards. He actually have more

1751
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 6: yards per carry than he does by fifty percent. Then

1752
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 6: he does yards per catch. I mean, it's really it's

1753
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 6: the ah Chan, Wattle Waller show, and we've got to

1754
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 6: just neutralize those guys.

1755
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 8: You know what this team also does Nathan sorry to

1756
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 8: cutch Off. They really play to the competition like they

1757
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 8: have not been a team with a winning records since

1758
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 8: December of twenty three. They they beat up on I

1759
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 8: would say they beat up on bad teams, but they

1760
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 8: get in the mud with bad teams. They kind of

1761
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 8: hang with good teams. I mean, go back to the

1762
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 8: game in September. Oh maybe maybe they could. They're gonna

1763
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 8: get beaten by the Bills by three touchdowns in prime time.

1764
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 8: They hung around, So, I mean, they they're a weird,

1765
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 8: weird team. But the thing you had to remember is

1766
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 8: they give up four hundred yards a game.

1767
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 3: Yep.

1768
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 8: That's that's the headline here.

1769
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 3: Yep.

1770
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 6: By the way, just while we have you on, we

1771
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 6: got the injury report from today has come out from practice.

1772
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 6: Joel Betonio not injury related, rest limited, Malie Collins not

1773
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 6: injury related, rest limited, Jack Conklin concussion, did not practice.

1774
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 6: Miles Garrett elbow that's the designation they're limited. Mike Hall

1775
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 6: knee limited, Shelby Harris knee limited, Jerry Judy knee limited,

1776
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 6: Gage larvad and concussion did not practice. Cornelius Lucas back full,

1777
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 6: David Njoku knee d NP, Cam Robbins neat limited, Joe

1778
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 6: Trianshoyinka hip limited, Blake Whitehart shoulder limited. For the Dolphins,

1779
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 6: their center Aaron Brewer peck limited. Brooks the leading tackler

1780
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 6: in the National Football League, Jordan Brooks neck limited. Elijah Campbell,

1781
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 6: who I guess was with the Browns on the practice

1782
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 6: squad and be was an underefted pre agent a few

1783
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 6: years ago. DMP quad Terrell Dodson concussion full. He missed

1784
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 6: last week. He is their second leading tackler despite missing

1785
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 6: last week, so it looks like he will be back.

1786
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 6: The Great Storm Duck full participant with his ankle injury.

1787
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 8: Don't you want terrain with Storm Ducks?

1788
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 3: Oh you got it?

1789
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 6: Squatter off a Duck's back. Let's go touchdown? Judy, I

1790
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 6: can hear you call it right now.

1791
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 8: Jerry Judy had twelve receptions in the rain last year

1792
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 8: against the Dolphins, like he did, like bring those days.

1793
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 6: Back, Yeah, those are fun days. Trader, I think it's

1794
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 6: Dante Trader. It is.

1795
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 8: He's the one who missed the tackle on Lad McConkey

1796
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 8: last week in Space and Change.

1797
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 3: He hates it well.

1798
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 6: Now he's limited with a shoulder injury, Darren Waller not

1799
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 6: injury related rest, and then Cedric Wilson, who does not

1800
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 6: have a catch yet this year, but it's probably one

1801
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 6: of more accomplished receivers on their roster from a career standpoint.

1802
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 3: He is full with a knee.

1803
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 8: So the weird thing about Cedric Wilson is they signed

1804
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 8: him off the practice squad out of New Orleans when

1805
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 8: Tyreek got hurt, and then they made him inactive, so

1806
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 8: they signed him to the active roster, like we'll take you, hey,

1807
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 8: we'll give you a real job. But then he's been

1808
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 8: sitting there and I think there's some question and some

1809
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 8: frustration as to why with Tyreek out, you're going to

1810
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 8: take a guy off somebody else's roster but not put

1811
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:38,839
Speaker 8: him on the field.

1812
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: What do you guys make of two of postgame and

1813
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 2: his comments? He apologized for it today, I made a mistake. Postgame.

1814
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 2: They get the loss for the audience. They lose last week, Yeah,

1815
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: lose by two to the Chargers. Comes up postgame and

1816
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: he starts talking about accountability, and he's talking about how

1817
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: guys aren't showing up for players only meetings and all

1818
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 2: of these other things. And when I initially heard it.

1819
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 2: The first thing I thought of, well, aren't you the

1820
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: leader at this point in your career? Aren't you the

1821
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 2: face of the Miami Dolphins at this point based on

1822
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 2: who's left down there? And you're the most tenured. So

1823
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: that was a little bit interesting to me. And then

1824
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 2: he made the apology for today. What did you guys

1825
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: kind of make of that story?

1826
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 8: So I was watching the apology, I was actually doing

1827
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 8: the two things at once. I had you guys on

1828
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 8: one screen CBD and I had two on the other. Yeah,

1829
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 8: of course is how we multitask during the afternoon because

1830
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 8: and two it came out and owned it immediately said

1831
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 8: I was wrong and I shouldn't have done it, and

1832
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 8: this is my public apology, and I've talked to my teammates.

1833
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 8: But he also kind of slipped in one of those

1834
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 8: how the media perceives it things which made you go, hmm. Interesting.

1835
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 8: What stood out to me, guys is at every single

1836
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,799
Speaker 8: and I think I mean this, every single former player

1837
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 8: in the media, without fail, has all been in lockstep.

1838
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 8: They've all been in lockstep agreeing that Tua was wrong

1839
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 8: and crossed a line. And I thought what Manti Teo

1840
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 8: said on Monday on GMFB. Really he stood out as well.

1841
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 8: He said, listen, we're friends. We're not best buddies, but

1842
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 8: we're more than acquaintances. Obviously we have the Hawaiian connections.

1843
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 8: Polynesian connections are really like the guy and he goes

1844
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 8: the tua that I see on the podium this year,

1845
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 8: is it the tua that I know? He's always been

1846
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 8: the really positive, like, let's build on this, let's put

1847
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 8: a positive spin on it, move forward kind of guy.

1848
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 8: And this guy kind of kind of sounds like evil,

1849
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 8: not maybe not evil to it, but like bad cop tua,

1850
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 8: like bizarro tua, where he's trying to clean up other

1851
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 8: people's messes and it's out of character and it's not him,

1852
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 8: which I think speaks to bigger issues down there.

1853
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's I think sometimes we're in this

1854
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 6: weird we live in this weird world. Where he obviously

1855
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 6: said something that was hinting at an issue. Now, I

1856
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 6: don't know that he should even be apologizing for perhaps

1857
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 6: what he said, but just for the venue that he

1858
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 6: chose to say it in, right, Like, that's probably something

1859
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 6: that you would go tell, say in the locker room

1860
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 6: or say to the teammates directly, But I didn't think

1861
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 6: it was that big of a deal. I think they're

1862
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 6: in a way bigger deal about it than it was.

1863
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 2: I didn't, and I, to me, it felt like if

1864
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 2: that that's something that leaders do, like who knows what's

1865
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 2: going on? And Andrew's right, like, there's obviously much more

1866
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 2: under the scene there that are below the surface there

1867
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 2: than what we know. But I, to me, like, you've

1868
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 2: seen guys do that before, call out teams and say hey,

1869
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: we got to be better on the things in our

1870
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 2: own building. To me, has every right to do that.

1871
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: He's one of the longest, most vested veterans of the

1872
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins.

1873
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1874
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 8: So yeah, and bo I had the same reaction you

1875
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 8: did it first. Yeah, because I think all of us

1876
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 8: in the media we appreciate the candor, like we can't

1877
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 8: have it both ways, and we see this all the time.

1878
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 8: It's like, oh, yeah, thanks for giving us the real scoop,

1879
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 8: and then five minutes later, go, but you really shouldn't

1880
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,799
Speaker 8: do that, right, you should take that in house. We

1881
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 8: we kind of go back and forth we in the

1882
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 8: media here, but I haven't heard a single player in

1883
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 8: the media players I respect and players that I think

1884
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 8: maybe do a lot more screening then they do actual analysis.

1885
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 8: I haven't heard a single player say yeah, man, good

1886
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 8: for you for being a leader. Every single one of

1887
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 8: them is taken the other side.

1888
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 3: I wonder some of that.

1889
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes that can be a shot at him too, though, right,

1890
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 2: kind of like a shot at two a little bit

1891
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 2: by them almost Like so there's a little bit I'm

1892
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: gonna tell you right now. There is on our monitor

1893
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 2: two of you.

1894
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 6: There are three. There are really three Sicilians.

1895
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 8: There's three.

1896
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 6: Why you get one and then you bet, and then

1897
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 6: then you get the more you get more of that

1898
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 6: one in the bottom left.

1899
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 8: And who is that I'm looking at looking at the

1900
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 8: back of games.

1901
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 3: That there's the that was so good look for.

1902
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 6: You.

1903
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 8: So I'm gonna say it probably likely.

1904
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 6: He kind of turned around a little bit like when

1905
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 6: Will Ferrell was Robert Goulay.

1906
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bob Gulay yea, and he is on the twisty

1907
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 3: turny thing.

1908
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1909
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey buddy, we'll see you this week. Yeah, I

1910
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 3: just saw I saw it on the delay.

1911
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 8: Well done, cheat man, Yes, isn't that great?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,280
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1914
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Speaker 3: safe travels.

1915
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1945
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Speaker 2: You guys are really mobile this week, boy, I mean

1946
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 2: for the last month. I mean, I don't know about

1947
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 2: the last month.

1948
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 4: When trains, automobiles, buses. What else would you like? Yeah,

1949
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 4: we've covered the gamut and.

1950
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 2: A trip to London. You get to say the country estate.

1951
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,799
Speaker 2: Though it's a lovely estate in London.

1952
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 3: That's nice.

1953
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:19,879
Speaker 6: It was not in London, not not even really adjacent.

1954
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 6: You consider staying in Columbus staying in Cleveland, No.

1955
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 5: I would not.

1956
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 3: How about Mansfield? Would you call that Cleveland?

1957
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 9: No?

1958
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 5: From No?

1959
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 2: You know, every time I think of you said in Watford,

1960
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 2: that's in Uh, what's the holiday movie where Uncle Billy

1961
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 2: sings the.

1962
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 3: Song with the one in name of Love. Actually when

1963
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,839
Speaker 3: he's at Radio Watford. He's in Watford.

1964
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's at Radio Watford and he signs the when

1965
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 2: he says it's pure crap and all that he's he's

1966
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: on radio radio.

1967
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Speaker 4: That would help.

1968
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Speaker 3: That'll make me happy.

1969
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 4: So pulls that out. If we've been gone for five weeks.

1970
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 3: I do what I can.

1971
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: I do every once in a while, I'm good for something.

1972
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Speaker 2: That's it for us kids. Thanks for listening. Cleveland Browns

1973
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1974
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1975
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1976
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