1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Right, Hi, guys, It's Lauren Rosa and this is the 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Latest with Lauren de Rosa. 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: This is your daily. 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Dig on all things entertainment, pop culture, and exclusive news. Now, 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: y'all know, we like to get into the conversations that 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: shake the room, baby, So we're gonna get right on 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: into it. But first we gotta check on it because 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: we and grinding. When you're moving around, a lot of 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: times people don't people don't check on you. I saw 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: a tweet from Sexy Red where she's like, YO, check 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: on your strong friends, And that is what the behind 15 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: the scenes of the grind is. It's a check in 16 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: on your strong friends, on yourself, on each other. I 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: do it because y'all know, I'm sitting here recording majority 18 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: of the time by myself. So I do it because 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: a lot of times I need to check myself, Like, girl, 20 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: where you at with it? How are you? How are 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: you feeling? You know what I'm saying, Like, what's what's 22 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: really going on? So today I am f H how 23 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: am I feeling today? I've had a lot of feelings 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: this morning. One of the biggest overwhelming feelings that I 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: had this morning that I can't put into one word, 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: which we like to do here, but I can put 27 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: it to a few. It's just this morning, I was 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: just thanking God for being able to do what I 29 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: love every day. I got back in from La last night. 30 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: It was pretty late. My shower, got my life together, 31 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: like you know, through my clothes out and skin, you know, 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: social media and news Outlet's one more time to figure out, 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: you know what. I kind of wanted to prioritize to 34 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: talk about today on the Breakfast Club here on the podcast. 35 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: And I woke up this morning I felt. 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Rusted, even though I know I need like another good 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: day of early sleep do you all the way back 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: from that La trip? 39 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: But I felt rested. 40 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: However, I was like, man, I wish I had the 41 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: type of job where I could just call off work 42 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: and take a date to myself, just to honestly regroup 43 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: from people and all the interactions that I've had with 44 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: people lately and recently. 45 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, but my type of 46 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: job is not that type of job. 47 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: And then I was just thinking about and thinking back 48 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: to the days where I work jobs where I would 49 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: have been thinking that just because I was so miserable 50 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: at what I was doing, not even because I needed 51 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: the actual recuperation time, but just because I wasn't happy. 52 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, God, thank you so much, because 53 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 1: I'm so happy with where I am in life. It's 54 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: a blessing, and just be like, Hey, things are going 55 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: so well and I am busy and I am working 56 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: so much that I just kind of need just a 57 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: little pause, a little fill my cup up day versus 58 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: I am so miserable. I don't want to be in 59 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: the space that I'm in, in the space that I'm in, 60 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: completely different mental spaces to be in. And I just 61 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: remember being in the other mental space versus where I'm 62 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: at now, and all morning is warning driving into work, 63 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 1: I was just like God, thank you, Like thank you guy, 64 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Like we really came up out of that and it 65 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: ain't never looking back. So I hope you guys are 66 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: feeling lovely as well. You know, there's been a lot 67 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: going on in courts with Diddy as a transition into 68 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: the latest, because y'all know, I love to take you 69 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: out of court, lot to take you out of court, 70 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: So did he Chriald, There's been a lot going on. 71 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: But you know what I would love to hear from 72 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: you guys via social media is because we've had this 73 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: conversation before. Is this stuff's just you know, adding color, 74 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: adding context and adding and providing for verius relations really 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: good headlines or are these witnesses now on the government 76 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: side that are actually needed for the case? 77 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: Right? 78 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: So we have not talked about court here in detail 79 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: in some time, and since we haven't, there's been a 80 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: lot that has happened. So Diddy's team actually acts for 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: a mistrial. The mistrial was denied by a judge. And 82 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: the reason why did he seem acts for a mistrial 83 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: is because Diddy's attorneys alleged that one of the witnesses, 84 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: a woman named Brianna Bungalen, who was a friend of Cassie's. 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: They believe that she took the stint and testified false testimony. 86 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: She testified that Diddy allegedly dangled her over the edge 87 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: of a seventeenth balcony seventeenth floor balcony at Cassie's old 88 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: apartment in la in September of twenty sixteen, which Cassie 89 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: did testify that she witnessed as well. 90 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: But the defense, you know, came in. Diddy's team came 91 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: in and. 92 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Tried to poke holes in the store using metadata from 93 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: the photos of her alleged injuries from this incident, and 94 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: they're saying that it happened on a completely different day, right, 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: So there was an argument about that, and they tried 96 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: to say that the testimony was false and things of 97 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: that nature. Right now, the judge has come in and 98 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: said no, not happening, not moving forward whatsoever. 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: And the reason why he. 100 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: Did that because the judge basically said, look, Brianna has 101 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: already admitted to having taken a lot of drugs, you know, 102 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: particularly during that time and question he said, it happened 103 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: years ago, and you know, we thank god that she's 104 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: sober and sober enough to come into the court and 105 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: be able to provide her testimony. But giving you a 106 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: mistrial or even excluding her testimony is perjury. So basically, 107 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: like I'm not going to say her testimony didn't have 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, she didn't miss quote certain dates and times 109 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: on the testimony, but she provided a good background as 110 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: to such. The government provided enough information around that. And 111 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: when did he team came in and tried to poke 112 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: holes in it. The government came in and said, no, 113 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: here's exactly what happened. Because if you guys remember, the 114 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: government came back in after did he seem tried to 115 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: say she got the dates wrong, and did He was 116 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: in New York and said and provided you know, a 117 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: text messages conversations from Cassie which proved that it actually happened, 118 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: but the timing was wrong. Now, in addition to that, 119 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: there's been other things, like there's been a lot of 120 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: talk of you know, just jealousy on Jane Doe's side, 121 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: and Jane Doe admitting that she wanted to be more 122 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: with Diddy, that you know, there were birthdays that she 123 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: wanted to spend with her boyfriend and with you know 124 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: who was allegedly Ditty at the time, and her idea 125 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 1: of birthdays and celebrations and just time with him didn't 126 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: always include other men. She said, at one point, you know, 127 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: she got together multiple other men, three other men outside 128 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: of Diddy who were escorts, and performed sexual acts with them, 129 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: allegedly for Diddy because she just wanted to make them happy. 130 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: And she called this to all thir team, but she 131 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: said that this is not something she wanted to do, 132 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: but she felt like she was under certain pressures because 133 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: Diddy was financially supporting her and because she loved him. 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: So that was very similar to Cassie as well, So 135 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: that I kind of added to that as well. But 136 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of what is being 137 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: provided here it's very similar to what we've heard prior 138 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: to with Cassie, and I think Cassie's testimony painted that 139 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: very well, and it was a lot stronger because there 140 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: was like the physical abuse that they showed in court 141 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: when it came to Cassie, and Jane Doe has admitted that, 142 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, her and Diddy, you know, they've had their 143 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: exchanges of words and different things. But the evidence that 144 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: they provided when it came to Cassie showed very strongly, 145 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, the leaning into the force and the coercion 146 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: and all these things that the government is trying to show. 147 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: Did he uses to make people do things they do 148 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 1: not want to do, such as fly to different states, 149 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, allegedly and have sex with these escorts and 150 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: things of that nature. I personally, you know, in keeping 151 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: up with Jane Do and her testimony, I kind of 152 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: knew from the start of this, because when she first started, 153 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: you could tell that there was still a bit, you know, 154 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: of admiration for Diddy, and she did admit on the 155 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: sand that she's still and currently in love with Diddy. 156 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: I knew that. 157 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Diddy's team was going to try and use small things 158 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: like the fact that you know, she's still working with 159 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: one of the attorneys who Diddy had provided for her 160 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: in the beginning of all of these things. Once the 161 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: government approached her about everything about the investigation right in 162 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: his favor, like to. 163 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: Make her not credible. But I don't know. 164 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: I guess I'm just saying, I don't know if this 165 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: is a big enough hit or big enough witness to 166 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: trump a lot of the other things that we've seen. 167 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: And I know, for me, I'm gonna fatigue by it. 168 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Just as a normal person listening, I'm feeling like, Okay, 169 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm hearing the stories. I'm hearing all these things, but 170 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: this woman in particular, the biggest overall thing for me 171 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: from this was, yes, this is a man of power 172 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: and of influence, and drugs were introduced, and you know 173 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: what wrongs were done to her according to her, You 174 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: can't take away from her. 175 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: But a lot of this seems. 176 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: Like, and he spent a lot of time talking about this, 177 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: like her feeling away because he was doing things with 178 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Young Miami and spending money on her and doing things 179 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: for Young Miami's birthday that she was not getting. And 180 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: if I'm the government, I'm sorry, and if I'm Ditty's 181 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: attorneys at all, that is what I lean into because 182 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: it does sound like you know, a woman who's heard. 183 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, even Cassie when she was 184 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: talking about that time period of her life appeared hurt 185 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: as she would have been because there was love for 186 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: this man, although he was doing the things that we've 187 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: seen him do in that CNN video and the other 188 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: things that are alleged right, well she alleged. We don't 189 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: know if that was done, but that she alleged. 190 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: Right. 191 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think that this is 192 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: first of all, this is a lot more of a 193 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: recent girlfriend. That's number one. Secondly, I don't know. I 194 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: just and maybe some attorneys can chime in. I think 195 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: that this is lower hanging fruit. And I think that 196 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: you do, like I get it, you need that because 197 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: you want to kind of drive it home to a 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: point where no one can even think any different if. 199 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: You're a juror. But I just don't know if. 200 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: A testimony like this gets it to the point where 201 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: now you know, now the durors are like, okay, wait, 202 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: hold on, like is it just a jealousy thing or 203 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: did these things happen like you know what I'm saying. 204 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: So I just don't know for me, y'all. 205 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: I think when it comes to this whole situation again, 206 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: I'm paying more attention to, Like the government is laying 207 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: out with their land out, and it's very clear with 208 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: their land out, I'm paying more attention to the defense 209 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: because I think when I see the defense come back in, 210 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: I see how they fight it, and that to me 211 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: makes me wonder how a jury is thinking. Like when 212 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: you poke holes, like like what they try to do 213 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: with Brianna, and you're like, okay, the metadata says boom 214 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom, and you're like, okay, you got 215 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: a bombshell, And then the government comes back in and 216 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: shows text messages from Cassie. It's like the defense kind 217 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: of gives the government their like strategy, and then the 218 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: government comes back at them. And if I'm a duror, right, 219 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: not even right if I'm ajurer. One of the biggest 220 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: things that I want to do is is I want 221 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: to try and look at it from both sides, of course, 222 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: but the rebuttal is everything, Like being able to prove 223 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: or disprove is everything in these cases, because it's so 224 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: many details that are being thrown at you, and only 225 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: big things are going to stand out, like someone not 226 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: having a date correct, Like you know, I know the 227 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: government is leaning in with Jane Doll that Diddy's financial 228 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: status and power and just influence because of love and 229 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: emotional distress and all these things over this woman and 230 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: things that she had, you know now because she saw 231 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: the gassy beating videos and she mentioned that things like 232 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: that is how he's able to get her to do 233 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: these acts that she does not want to do, as 234 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: she's allegedly telling him that she does not want to 235 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: do him. Right, But I want to see how Diddy's 236 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: team comes in and is able to kind of break 237 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: this whole thing down, because that's honestly, y'all. I just 238 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: I just really think we got to get to the defense. 239 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: Like I really think we got to get to the 240 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: defensive side, because we've seen the picture that the government 241 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: has been painting over and over and over and over 242 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: and over and over and over. So at this point, 243 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: that is what I'm looking forward to, all right, y'all 244 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: and rapping. I know the BT Awards are done, done, done, 245 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: and I promise y'all this is the last day I'm 246 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: even mentioning the BT Awards anywhere. But in fairness, if 247 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: you took a listen to my report that I did 248 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club about walle music artists Lea and 249 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: Kai Sanat. 250 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: Wile ran in the Kai Sanat and this took place, 251 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: So hold up, bussy, good what I'll beat you a 252 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: gang Walley? Oh my god, that was somebody crazy. Hey, 253 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: the whole chat knows him. 254 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: What do you do? All work? 255 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: Looking like lotus la oh shit. And then while they 256 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: ran back into Kysannai and he said this. 257 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: That should make me look crazy right now to say, 258 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: you know what, that's making me look crazy. 259 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: The exchange that we had in the hall way, I 260 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: mean they're running with it. 261 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: But later, because of this an interaction, some people have 262 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: been saying, yo, it's so whack. While A got such 263 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: a big ego, he's mad that kayson I didn't recognize him. 264 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: That's corny. Kay Sanat is younger. 265 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: He wouldn't recognize you because you haven't put out music 266 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: and you know all these things, which while has dropped 267 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: a few little things here and there, but basically people 268 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: mean like he has had like a big splash recently 269 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: of music or like you know, hits or hit singles 270 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: or things of that nature. Now, While responded in the 271 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Shaperoom comments, and he said, this is crazy. I didn't 272 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: even know we was being filmed both times we played 273 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: in a celebrity football game last year. 274 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: I was really confused. 275 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: And what while as referring to is in the audioce 276 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: you guys just heard Kay Sana is filming because he's 277 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: live on stream. 278 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: Kay Sanat is always live on stream. 279 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: There's also a person if they're filming with a camera 280 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: that while I don't know how while they didn't see him, 281 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: the camera person, but I know when DDG came up here, 282 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: it was very clear that someone was filming. Even though 283 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: it goes to a stream, it's like a camera pack 284 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: that they have when they're doing it. So I don't 285 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: know while they missed that, But he's saying that he 286 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: didn't know that they were being filmed for people that 287 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: are basically saying that he was reaching for a moment 288 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: who was he was embarrassed because it was on video 289 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: or on stream or whatever, right, So from this conversation 290 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: while they then post it and add for a Nintendo Switch, 291 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: which is what he was playing, as you guys heard 292 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: when he first ran into time. And the people are 293 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: arguing back and forth because there's one side of the fence, 294 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, and this this is honestly taking us to 295 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: the streets and the tweets. 296 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: Outside outside, we outside, outside of every other page. 297 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: Because all of this is going down on Twitter. So 298 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: there's one side of the fence. Who was like, listen, 299 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: y'all love to sit here and act like while at 300 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: just be yelling and screaming for no reason. 301 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: Angel the singer. 302 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: Said, people in the industry have spent years trying to 303 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: treat while like a step child when he's really one 304 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: of the goats. And she put goats in all caps, 305 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: and she said, and I'll be damned, I'll argue with 306 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: everybody on this app. And basically what she's alluding to 307 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: is the other side of the coin. The other side 308 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: of the coin is that people are first of all, 309 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: people feel like Kay Sanat did know who while they 310 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: was and that he was just trying to play him. 311 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: What's y'all? That is so not in Kasanat's fashion. 312 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: He is he seems like I've never been him in person, 313 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: but from every interaction I've ever seen him have, he 314 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: seems very respectful, very honest, and he's never just trying 315 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: to put someone down for no reason. But the conversation 316 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: on whether Kai knew who he was or should have 317 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: known who he was or not begin fans to talk 318 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: about whether while At musically is in a position to 319 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: even feel like Kai should have known who he was 320 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: and who's fault is that? And when I say who's 321 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: fault is that, there's always been, you know, conversation around 322 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: while they choosing to remove himself from certain label deals 323 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: and you know just how his career went and how 324 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: much of the onus on himself needs to be put 325 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: there for that other You know, people are bringing in 326 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: age because of how young Kai Sanat is, but they're 327 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: saying it like, you know, while as songs are so big, 328 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: so no matter the age, like the Lotus, Flower Bomb 329 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: and things of that nature, you should still know who 330 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: he is now. Another person said, Dasha Goat says, while 331 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: A gets a bad rap for standing up for himself 332 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: and not letting certain shit slide, you guys stand up 333 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: for yourself. You can't let a person play with you ever. 334 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: And that is in response to people saying that the 335 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: second interaction they have with Kai Sanat was uncalled for 336 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: because Kai Sannat wasn't being you know again, wasn't trying 337 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: to directly play with while he just honestly didn't know 338 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: who he was. But while Ay, that has always been 339 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: another conversation around him as well too. He speaks out 340 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: when things happen to him. He's very vocal about and honestly, 341 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: it's so crazy because as vocal as he is when 342 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: he does decide to speak out and say certain things, 343 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: he's also very secluded into himself and don't say nothing 344 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: about nothing unless it's about his outfits. 345 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 346 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: I thought that this was interesting because as a Walay fan, 347 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna speak for myself. 348 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Wallet's creativity. 349 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: And when I say that, I mean, you know, his 350 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: ability to write and put words together the way that 351 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: he does and put it over music and understand like 352 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: sounds and you know, like he is amazing at what 353 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: he does. 354 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: And that's why when he puts out music things stick. 355 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: Now, whether he's done that recently in a way that 356 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: everybody's jumping and go listen to the song or not, 357 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: y'all can argue about that all you want. But when 358 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: you think about, you know, Wila in the era when 359 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: we got to know ya, he's amazing at what he does. Now, 360 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: who is there a finger that you can point on 361 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: who's to blame about? Why we don't know nor some 362 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: people care? I mean, and again I'm not talking about myself. 363 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: I'm a Walet fan, but there are some people who 364 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: will tell you in twenty twenty five, literally on Twitter 365 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: right now, there are people arguing that in twenty twenty five, 366 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: wallet is not relevant. 367 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: People just don't care, and it's not Kay's fault. 368 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: So when interactions like this happen with a younger art, 369 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, with a younger creator and an older creator, 370 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: and you know, there's been so much conversation around Wile's 371 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: career and why things went silent and if he is 372 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: to blame, if he is the problem. People feel like 373 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: there has been self sabotage to some sorts Now, this 374 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: is nothing that any of us can you know, point 375 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: a direct finger to or confirm. There has just been 376 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: instances of various things with him, not you know, wanting 377 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: to be on labels and not doing certain things and 378 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: honestly just want to do things his way. But this 379 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: could also just be an artist who you know, feels 380 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: like he's not being treated well and that's how he 381 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: stands up for himself in this whole situation, I'm asking 382 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: you guys, who was right and who was wrong. 383 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: It's Kai to not wrong for honestly just not knowing who. 384 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: Wile was, because there are people on this app who 385 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: are making it seemed like that above the rim On excess, 386 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: Wile is legit probably the most disrespected rapper ever. 387 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: But how is that Kai Sannatt's fault? 388 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't understand how the conversation turns to that, Like, 389 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: how is that Kai Sannat's fault? Another person tweeted, it's 390 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: no excuse for Kai Sannat not to know who Wile is, 391 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: y'all bralaming us on age. 392 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: He was born in two thousand. He is twenty three, 393 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: not twelve. 394 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: And then on the other side, people are like, I mean, 395 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: oh wayle would have handed this way different two thousand 396 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: and nine, twenty ten, Wylee would have had twelve to 397 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: thirteen tweets about it. All he did was plug Nintendo switch. Obviously, 398 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm hoping you know, there's some sort of deal with 399 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: them now, He commented and explained why he felt weird 400 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: by the interaction. I think he was under their impression 401 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: at ky Son. I would have remembered him from that 402 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: celebrity football game based on his words, Wileet's words themselves, 403 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: and then he moved on. But I always think it's 404 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: interesting when the artist is isn't as big as some 405 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: people or none in that because Wallet is a big name, 406 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: Like I don't know why people I hate when people 407 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: have this conversation about Wallet because I think just because 408 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: someone doesn't have something that's streaming on the radio every 409 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: single day doesn't mean that this artist contributions doesn't matter 410 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: and that he is not who he is talent wise. 411 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: And I think that we need to be able to 412 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: separate the two things. 413 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: And because of how big social media is and how 414 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: loud things get and how big this interaction was for instance, right, 415 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: we aren't able to separate the two things. 416 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: And I think it's unfair to both parties. But people 417 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: are upset. 418 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: They're upset at Wilat because they feel like this made 419 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: him look bad, This made him look corny, this made him. 420 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: You know, have a huge or it leans into the whole. 421 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: Wila has this huge ego and that's this issue now 422 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: and that's why things are not working for him now. 423 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: Right. 424 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: But then on the other side, people are like, come on, Ki, 425 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: for you to be in this world of things doing 426 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: what you're doing, it makes no sense. 427 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: What do y'all think? Who do y'all think? Right or wrong? 428 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Kay Sanai, I don't believe that he 429 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: knew who Wiale was off rip. I think maybe if 430 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: you played him a couple of songs a bit and 431 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: gave him, you know, a little bit of like background context, 432 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: he might have came around to remembering him and even 433 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: might have remembered playing in the game with him. I 434 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: think kays s and I is just one of those 435 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: people who receives everyone very graciously and friendly. Even in 436 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: a video interaction him saying what's up to It's not 437 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: like like he just said what's up to him? Because 438 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: they were walking past each other and just had a 439 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: human interaction with him or do you think on the 440 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: other hand, you know, Wilele is you know wrong for 441 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: And honestly, it wasn't even the first interaction. It was 442 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: that second interaction that I was like, oh, that's not 443 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: gonna be taken well because it was more so like, yo, 444 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: you played with me on stream like it was kind 445 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: of like it was a soft come on, y'all, stop, 446 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: come on, stop playing with me, because I think you know, 447 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: I don't notice for sure, but based off of the 448 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: interaction that y'all just listened to from what I'm hearing 449 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: and what I'm in interpreting, while they felt a way 450 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: by how this was taken, by how he was made 451 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: to look, but it wasn't. 452 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: I don't believe it was intentional. 453 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: So y'all gonna take a look at videos, y'all listen 454 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: to the audio here. Now, let me know what y'all 455 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: think about it. Now. At the end of the day, 456 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: there's always a lot to talk about and y'all could 457 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: be anywhere with anybody talking about it, but you choose 458 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: to be right here with me, and I appreciate you, 459 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: guys every single time you do. 460 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: So I'll see you guys, in my next episode,