1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Stacy, would you please read this document? 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: Okay? This is a court document affidavit of probable cause 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: from Berks County, Pennsylvania, Honor. About Thursday, January fifth, twenty 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: twenty three, a detective received information that the defendant, Justin Rutherford, 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: was requesting to have someone murder a juvenile. 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Mail detectives in Running, Pennsylvania learned that a Justin Rutherford 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: had concocted a scheme to take the life of a 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: teenager who was set to testify against him in a 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: criminal case. Rutherford told his hitman to use gloves and 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: to wear layers of clothing so no DNA would be found. 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: Rutherford said he could be buried in the forest somewhere, 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: or he could be burned in a barrel. This would 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: be a good way to get rid of any evidence. 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Stacy, do you know Justin Rutherford, the man who was 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: planning the murder? 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: I do? 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: And who is he? My husband? 18 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Season three of Betrayal, 19 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: Episode one, storybook Romance A listener Note. Some names have 20 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: been changed to protect privacy. I'm so grateful to be 21 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: back for another season of Betrayal. When we started this 22 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: project with Jennifer Fason's story back in twenty nineteen, we 23 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: really didn't know where it would go. Thanks to you, 24 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: we're back for season three, and there's even more big 25 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: news if you love betrayal. This summer, our podcast will 26 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: become a weekly series addressing all kinds of betrayal, from relationships, 27 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: to financial deception and more. There are betrayals you won't believe, 28 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: but they happened. What we've discovered is that there are 29 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: people everywhere, millions actually, who are struggling with loss and 30 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: shame because something that they believed in turned out to 31 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: be a lie. Sometimes the lie is so egregious it's criminal. 32 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Other times it's just too painful to bear. We've also 33 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: learned that hearing you aren't the only one that has 34 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: been the victim of shocking deception is comforting. There is 35 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: something inherently therapeutic in sharing our stories, and that brings 36 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: me to Stacy Rutherford. 37 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: I can talk to my best friends till I'm blue 38 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: in the face, but not a single one of them 39 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: have any idea what I feel like, and I hope 40 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: none of them ever have to know what I feel like. 41 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: Stacy heard Ashley Linton's story from season two, and they 42 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: had a lot in common. Even parts of their story 43 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: are similar. 44 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: It was kind of one of those things that it 45 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: made me finally feel like I wasn't so abnormal for 46 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: feeling some of the things that I felt about the 47 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: situation and about grieving my marriage and everything. It was 48 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: just for the first time I felt like somebody knew 49 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: what I felt like. 50 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: But there are some very big differences. The stakes for 51 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: Stacy and her family are not like anything we've ever seen. 52 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: When she first reached out to our team, it was 53 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: from her home in a small rural spot called Jared'stown, 54 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: West Virginia. It's about two hours west of DC. She 55 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: works in the area as an administrative support for a 56 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: federal agency. She also spent many years working as a 57 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: medical assistant. Her story spans three states, two husbands, two courts, 58 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: four children, and twenty five years in the making. 59 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: It's a lot, and not everybody can handle that because 60 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: it's a wild story. It's nothing like you think you're 61 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: gonna hear. I found Stacy to be such a contradiction. 62 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: She's a joyful, spiritual person with a great laugh. It's 63 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: fun just being around her, but that laugh can turn 64 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: to tears in a matter of seconds. It's a fragile line. 65 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: She's holding it together, but not by much. 66 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: First, we need to look at where Stacey came from 67 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: to see how she arrived here. Stacy was still a 68 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: teenager when she got married and started a family. She 69 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: still remembers the night she met her first husband back 70 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight. We'll call him John. 71 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: My high school boyfriend and I broke up right after 72 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: senior year. I went to a party and just we connected. 73 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: John was twenty three, Stacy was eighteen. 74 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: He was fresh out the military. I got pregnant pretty quick. 75 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: You know. My dad will always say, I think he 76 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: did the noble thing. 77 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: John married after an accelerated courtship in their hometown of Decatur, Illinois, 78 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: but eventually moved to West Virginia. They had two kids together, 79 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Mikayla and Tyler. 80 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: Honestly, we didn't spend a lot of time together. I 81 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: know that that sounds crazy, but he loved a fish. 82 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: He could be out there for twelve eighteen hours a day, 83 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: so usually I would just stay home with the kids. 84 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Stacey admits that the relationship was imperfect, but she was 85 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: okay with that. 86 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: I knew we didn't have this fireworks and passion and 87 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: all this. But I was comfortable and I took a vow, 88 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: and I took that seriously. 89 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: They were busy young parents. 90 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: He was a forklift operator, but he worked so many hours. 91 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: He works like twelve to sometimes sixteen hours a day. 92 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: It never occurred to her that it wouldn't last forever. 93 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: Divorce was impossible to me. I was just like nu uh, 94 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: you know, like we're going to be old sitting on 95 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: a porch with our grandkids, because that's what my grandparents were. 96 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: And my parents were like, divorce wasn't in my family 97 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: like that. I'd made a post on MySpace or MySpace 98 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: like thank you God for this life, and I just 99 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: I'm so blessed and I have two great kids and 100 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: a husband, you know. And two weeks later, he rolled 101 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: over in bed and he just said I'm not happy 102 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: and I haven't been for a really long time. I'm like, 103 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: what the hell. I was like, shut up, and he 104 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: was like no, I'm serious, and I just started streaming. 105 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: Michaela was eight and she ran into the bedroom and 106 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 2: started screaming, Daddy, don't hit her, don't hit her. She 107 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: thought he was hitting me. Because I was screaming like agony. 108 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: He said it was nobody, that he just wanted to 109 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: be alone, that we got married too young. You know, 110 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: he was never going to get married again. 111 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: Stacy is no fool. She knew something was up. 112 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 2: My sister calls me Angela Lansbar because I won't find 113 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: it out. Within days, I knew he was seeing somebody. 114 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: Ended up finding out it was a coworker that was August. 115 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: I come home one day and I had told him 116 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: I was going to move back where our family was, 117 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: and then I changed my mind and I was like, 118 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: I can do this, you know, we can try to 119 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: work this out. He was like nope. 120 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Stacy's daughter Mikaela remembers her mom confronting the other woman, 121 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: though she didn't really know what was happening at the time. 122 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: One day, we were waking up for school and we 123 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: did not drive to school. We went to some random 124 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: lady's house and my mom gets out of the car 125 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: and is throwing gravel rocks at this lady and I'm 126 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: just in the backseat, like I don't know what's happening, 127 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 4: and my dad had come out. 128 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: Without a shirt on. 129 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: Mikaela was too young to understand. Stacy knew exactly what 130 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: was going on. 131 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: It was soul crushing. I said, just tell me what 132 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: it is and what I can do. And I remember 133 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: he did tell me, you know, well you got big 134 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: and I didn't, you know, like to look at you. 135 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Then it was like, oh, it's my fault. 136 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: This moment. It fractured her. So many people know this 137 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: feeling not feeling enough that haunted Stacy. 138 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: I had no self worth, no self worth. I mean, 139 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: I had never in my life been suicidal, and I 140 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: remember I knew I wanted to be alive for my kids, 141 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: but I just had this attitude of like, I'm not 142 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: going to take my life because I'm a Christian and 143 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: I don't you know, but if you don't wake me 144 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: up in the morning, that would be okay. 145 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Stacy kept her pain hidden. Her children only saw her 146 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: beauty and strength. 147 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 5: Anything could happen to her and nothing would phaze her. 148 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 5: She's great and I want to be her when I 149 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 5: grow up. Mom actually worked too jobs, and so a 150 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 5: lot of the time it would be Tyler and I 151 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: at home by ourselves, and I'd be watching him. And 152 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 5: even when I would go hang out with friends in 153 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 5: a neighborhood down the street. He would always tag along 154 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 5: with me. 155 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: Although Mikayla is six years older than Tyler, they formed 156 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: a close bond during those years. 157 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I loved it. 158 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: I loved being around Tyler when mom was a single 159 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 5: mom and it was just him and I a lot. 160 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: Mikayla has grown up a lot since looking after Tyler. 161 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: She's a master's candidate and a newlywed, but when she 162 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: was a kid, she admits to being a bit of 163 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: a wild child, like I was a hot mess, express 164 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Stacey says. Tyler, on the other hand, was a happy 165 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: kid who adored his mom. 166 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: When my first husband and I divorced, he was two. 167 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: So Tyler and I have always had a huge bond, 168 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: and he's always been a MoMA's boy. He loved the 169 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: Kardashians and he'd be like When's Sister Wives on, And 170 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: you know there was so much as SI in that 171 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: house at that time, Like the poor guy had no chance, 172 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: but it made him the sweetest soul. He will die 173 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: if I tell you this, But like I am a 174 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: bath and body works and that like my probably need 175 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: a twelve step program, but I always like have it 176 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: and so he would lay in bed when he was 177 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: little and he'd smell my arm and he'd say, oh, mamma, 178 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: you smell so beautiful. 179 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Seventeen years later, Stacy has acquired the wisdom to view 180 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: the end of her first marriage with a different lens. 181 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was doing. You know, I'm 182 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: a young mom. I'm a young wife, not knowing how 183 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: to manage money. So I completely accept that I had 184 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: a hand in the devise of my marriage too. 185 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: Still, the loss of her dream left Stacy wounded. 186 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: I can honestly say that I've never been the same 187 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: since my first marriage ended. 188 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Even after the demise of her marriage, Stacy hoped to 189 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: find love and a partner to share her life with. 190 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: She was cautious she had to be. 191 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 2: I didn't want to be that mom that just had 192 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: random different men coming in and out of her home, 193 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: and then for the kids to like lose that person. 194 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: That was always my fear. 195 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: The divorce was in two thousand and seven. Stacy has 196 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: had a few long term relationships and some forgettable dates. 197 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: Stacy's son, Tyler, recalls one boyfriend that left an impression she. 198 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 6: Was a real bad drunk and would just scream and yell. 199 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 6: So he wasn't too much of a good guy either. 200 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 6: He was just good to us kids. She always kind 201 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 6: of had bad experiences with men. 202 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: And Stacy's daughter, Mikayla, harbored the fantasy of many children 203 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: of divorce. 204 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 4: I want my mom and dad back together still, So 205 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: I was also like, who are you coming into my house? 206 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: I was always mean to like every boyfriend she had, 207 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: anytime she would tell me she was on a date, 208 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: something was dying, or my toe nail was falling off 209 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: and she had to come home because like fat guy. 210 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 4: And then like there would be times if she had 211 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: like a boyfriend over and they were in the living room, 212 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: I would purposely interrupt and you know, be an annoyance. 213 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: Then in twenty fifteen, a new man came into Stacy's life. 214 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: My name is Karen, and I met Stacy when my 215 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: son dated her daughter in high school, and we've been 216 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: close friends ever since. I met Justin when he was 217 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: doing like a round or rotations. I worked at a 218 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: lab at the doctor's office and he was a student 219 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: there and we just started to chat. 220 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: Justin was in medical school. 221 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: I knew he was single, and I'm like, I feel 222 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: like you and my friend were really hit it off. 223 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: He had a good sense. 224 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: Of humor and she had a good sense of humor. 225 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure if I gave her his number 226 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: or if I gave him her number, but either way, 227 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: he ended up reaching out and they met up. 228 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: Him and I met at All of Garden Right off 229 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: the bat, we started joking. Our whole entire meal was joking, 230 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: and he just kind of said to me, you know, 231 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm a poor Med student. I don't have time for anyone. 232 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: I don't have any money. I can't really take you 233 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: on dates like this, you know. He actually our biggest 234 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 2: joke was he used to coupon on our first date, 235 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: and he was mortified to bring it out of his pocket. 236 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: He's like, you know, I got like a bye one 237 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: get one half off kind of thing going on. And 238 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: he was just like, you know, so do you want 239 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: to adopt a poor Med student? And I was like yeah, 240 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: I mean, like, why not add another kid to it? 241 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: You know, I'm all for it. Our joke for years 242 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: was that who once already made family? And he was 243 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: like whooh me, you know, And that's kind of how 244 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: our relationship started. Telling me he had no time for 245 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: me and then ended up. We were together all the time. 246 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: He said that she was nice, but I think that 247 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: he was attracted to her sense of humor because that's 248 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: what makes her really beautiful, because she's so funny. 249 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: Stacy and Justin were vibing. They just loved being together. 250 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: I had butterflies when driving home from our first date. 251 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: I remember calling my dad and I was like, Dad, 252 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: I think I just met my husband. And he was like, 253 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: oh my god, did you tell him that? And I 254 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: was liked, no, I didn't tell him that, Like why 255 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: would I tell him that. He's like, oh, thank god, 256 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 2: because he would have run her. 257 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: Dad didn't need to worry. The affection was mutual. 258 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: They hit it off and I was pretty proud of 259 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: myself for being a matchmaker. 260 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: All the years I had dated. Between my first husband 261 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: and him, it was so just ugh a cesspool. Really, 262 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: people felt like they had an agenda or there was 263 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: something that they wanted from me, but Justin it was 264 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: just wholeheartedly. I never felt there was anything that he 265 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: wanted from me. He just wanted to be with me, 266 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: and for me, I was like, wow, that's the first time, 267 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: you know, I've ever felt like that. 268 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: When it was time for Justin to meet Stacy's kids, 269 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: fifteen year old Mikaela had every intention of giving the 270 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: new guy the same treatment every other man had unwelcome. 271 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: They had been dating for a couple of months, and 272 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: I remember I was at my dad's house when my 273 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: mom was like, Justin was coming over and I was 274 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: going to meet him. The whole time I'm talking shit, 275 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, Dad, f him. I already don't like him. 276 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: He's probably fat and ugly. And my Dad's like, michaela 277 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: be nice and I'm like, I don't care. I don't 278 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: want to know you. And then when we walked in 279 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: the house, it was immediately like Hi, I'm Justin and 280 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: like open arms, super talkative, asking me like what I 281 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: want to do when I grow up? How high school is? 282 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: You know, just like blah blah blah blah blah talking 283 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: to me. And I was still kind of stand offish 284 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: because I'm like, can you. 285 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: Take the heat. 286 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 7: I remember the first day we met him very vividly. 287 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: Actually, Tyler was about ten at the time. He was impressed. 288 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 6: He really just seemed like such a great guy from 289 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 6: the start. You came over, We're looking at it. Oh, 290 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 6: mom's got a new boyfriend. Here's another asshole. And then 291 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 6: surprisingly he was one of the first guys to ever 292 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 6: have an interaction with me and like, I actually played 293 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 6: football with me, so to me, I was like, Okay, 294 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 6: he's actually a pretty good guy. That was the first 295 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 6: time I really saw her with another man, truly happy, 296 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 6: and Mikayla thought it too. 297 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: I liked him a lot, and I was like, okay, 298 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: I won't scare him away. Yeah, they had a good relationship. 299 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: Like I thought they were good together. 300 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: We started dating in March and Thanksgiving we went to 301 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: Myrtle Beach with his family and I was like, oh, 302 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: this is so great. We spent a lot of time 303 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: with family and friends. 304 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: Time together was precious then. Medical school was all encompassing 305 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: for Justin, but they made it work. 306 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: I also, you know, would help him when he would 307 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: study because I'm in the medical field too, so when 308 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: he was studying prescription med names, we would like go 309 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: back and forth as kind of like a game. 310 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: Stacy didn't need to be wined and dine. She wanted 311 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: kindness and connection and someone to be part of her family. 312 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: It just never felt complex. We spent a lot of 313 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: time with like family and friends, and if we weren't 314 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: we were studying. You know, we didn't do a whole 315 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: lot in our first year. 316 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: Justin was also willing to be a father figure and 317 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: wanted to be involved in the kids' lives. 318 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 6: He was really nice to me and would do stuff 319 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 6: with me. He was a big video gamer. He helped 320 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 6: me build my first like big gaming computer, which was 321 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 6: really cool, and he was very tech savvy. 322 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 7: If I wanted to play games, he was a guy 323 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 7: to play games with. 324 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 6: So I was happy to have what I thought would 325 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 6: be a father figure. 326 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 7: It was like the dad and best friend in one. 327 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: It was now twenty sixteen. Stacy and Justin had been 328 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: together about a year, but he was on the medical 329 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: track and to relocate to continue his training. Stacy and 330 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: Justin's relationship was getting serious. Sometimes he'd stay at her 331 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: place for several days at a time, or she'd spend 332 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: the weekend at his apartment. It couldn't imagine being a part, 333 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: so the couple decided that Stacy and her kids would 334 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: move with him for his residency. It was the last 335 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: stage of training before becoming a doctor. 336 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: He was just kind of like our not really silent deal, 337 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: but our deal that he was going to take care 338 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: of me and I was going to take care of him. 339 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: Justin matched with a hospital system in Pennsylvania, so Stacy, Mikaela, 340 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: and Tyler packed up their life and moved with Justin. 341 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: This was the beginning of their next chapter as a 342 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: growing family. Stacy's sister Heather, it was. 343 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 8: Like the story book Growing My sister one of more 344 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 8: children having children. 345 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: He loved her kids. 346 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: And Justin wanted kids too. A year after the family 347 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: moved to Pennsylvania, the couple had a baby girl together, 348 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: and shortly after Stacey became pregnant again. She shared an 349 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: amazing family moment with me a video where Justin opens 350 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: a gender reveal envelope. 351 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: Oh God, thank you Jesus. 352 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: That. 353 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I was about two seconds away from actual 354 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 2: job into the ground. 355 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: Their baby boy was born in twenty nineteen. 356 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: He delivered both of our kids my ob right when 357 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: the baby was about to come out, she stepped to 358 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: the side and let Justin deliver the babies. I remember 359 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: I made a Facebook post like after it and I said, 360 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: I didn't think I could love this man anymore, but 361 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: when I saw him with his babies, it made me 362 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: love him in a whole different way, you know, on 363 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: a different level. He was just so happy, Like you 364 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: could tell, he just was so excited to be a dad. 365 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: They had their love, their children, their family was complete. 366 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: As they set their sights on the future, Justin received 367 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: a full time job offer. It was official they were 368 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: staying in Pennsylvania. 369 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: After residency was over, he accepted a position with their 370 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: family med office in Exeter, Pennsylvania. 371 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: My sister worked extremely hard to bring in enough money 372 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: to take care of her kids and still try to 373 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: give them the life that they deserved. 374 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: But Justin offered her a sense. 375 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 7: Of freedom, I mean the salary. 376 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: And Stacey also had support. When the family moved to Pennsylvania, 377 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: Justin's godmother moved with them. Her name is Deborah and 378 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: she helped Stacy with the little ones. 379 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 6: We called her Nanny mcdee like the Nanny McPhee movie. 380 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 7: She was a part of our family. 381 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: D was living with Justin's mom since he was a baby. 382 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: When his mother died tragically during his college years, Nanny 383 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: continued to maintain a close relationship with him. Here's Justin's 384 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: college friend, Stacy Hayden. 385 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 9: Justin's mom got cancer and passed away and her best 386 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 9: friend was d and she had promised to always take 387 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 9: care of Justin. As soon as they moved to Pennsylvania, 388 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 9: Dee was living with them in like a taking care 389 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 9: of roles, so she was a living nanny and helped 390 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 9: around the house. 391 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: The extra set of hands made a huge difference. Dee 392 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: could watch the kids while Justin and Stacey worked. Although 393 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: the couple were financially comfortable, Stacy learned a lot from 394 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: her first marriage. Finally, those hectic years would pay off. 395 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: He made basically like what I make right now, So 396 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: we lived tight during that time, and then once he 397 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: ran graduated from residency, I was going to continue working 398 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: for the next five years instead of being a state 399 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: home mom like. He gave me that option, but I 400 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: was like, no, I want to work. 401 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: Stacey carried a lot of baggage from her divorce an 402 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: old debt, so Justin stepped in to help get control 403 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: of her financial life. 404 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: He was real focused on making sure that I was 405 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: out of debt and that I was in a good 406 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: financial position. He paid off my student loans, He got 407 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: my credit score back up to where it was actually 408 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: a normal decent credit score. 409 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: Justin didn't just look out for her well being, he 410 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: looked out for the kids. 411 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 5: He was more active in my life than my biological dad, 412 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 5: and I felt closer to him Stacy's father, Rodney. 413 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 10: I saw a good impact Justin had on Mikayla because 414 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 10: Mikayla was not a great student in school. You know, 415 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 10: I hope Michayla doesn't mind me favor. But the joke 416 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 10: of the family was always saying, God, she's too. If 417 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 10: you have told me she was going to be going 418 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 10: for her master's degree, I would say, well, I don't 419 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 10: know what you're smoking, but I'll take some of them. 420 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 10: And I think Justin helped her inspired her even to 421 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 10: go farther than even I think she thought she could go. 422 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 5: I had two dads, like they were both great and 423 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 5: I loved them equally. But I mean he was a 424 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 5: great dad, like I called him dad. I didn't say stepdad. 425 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: I had everything that I wanted. He took care of us. 426 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: He gave us the life that you know, I always 427 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: wanted my kids to have. 428 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: It was the life they both wanted. 429 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: It wasn't a card or something like that where he 430 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: said something to the effect of thank you for giving 431 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: me the family that I never thought I would. 432 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: Have, andally they manned an official. 433 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: Our plan was get married this year at the courthouse, 434 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: and then the following year on our actual anniversary, have 435 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 2: a big reception. 436 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, Justin and Stacy were married in a 437 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: civil ceremony with just family and attendance. She had waited 438 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: so long for this moment. 439 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: I remember just saying to him, if I knew that 440 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: I had to go through eight years of shitty relationships 441 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: and devastation to get to you, I would do it 442 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: all over again. I would tell him that all the time, 443 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: I would walk through every bit of it again to 444 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 2: find you. And you know, when I was single, I 445 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: would think of like I wonder what his name's going 446 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 2: to be, you know, and like I remember I tell 447 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: it him one time, like I just love saying your 448 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: name because I wondered for so long, like what your 449 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: name would be. 450 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: She finally knew her person and she was now missus 451 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: Justin Rutherford. Life got even sweeter when they bought their 452 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: five bedroom dream house, complete with a pool. The kids 453 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: were in heaven. They had made it. Cynthia worked with 454 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: Justin and went to his home for parties. They seem 455 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: like the best American family. 456 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: They had a beautiful home. 457 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: They had a pool, they had the space for the 458 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: kids to run around. They had a beautiful life. The 459 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: Rutherford House was always a hub for social activity. Tyler 460 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: and Michayla's friends spent a lot of time there. The pool, 461 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: a movie theater, and all the video games. It was 462 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: a big draw, and Stacy thrived playing hostess. 463 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 8: I loved when Tyler had all of his friends over 464 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 8: in the summertime. He never had to ask I had 465 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 8: friends over. It was just all such and such as 466 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 8: stand the night four of them are, and you know, 467 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 8: here I am cooking eight pounds of. 468 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: Food, you know. But we loved it. 469 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 8: I joked that I was going to claim some of 470 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 8: his friends on my taxes because they were there so much. 471 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: Their homeline is something that I strive for. 472 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: Pure happiness. 473 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: For the better part of six years, That's how Stacy 474 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: viewed her life too, pure happiness. That was until August tenth, 475 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, when she returned from work in the afternoon. 476 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: When I first walked up to the house, I just 477 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: saw a bunch of like vans and SUVs, and I 478 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: thought that he had like a bunch of Tyler's hockey 479 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: people over. 480 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: But there were no cars she recognized. Stacy quickly learned 481 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: that these were unmarked police cars. Her house was being raided. 482 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: The detective came out. He was like, ma'am, calm down, 483 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: Your family's okay, just come with us. I walked into 484 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: the house. He was sitting at our kitchen table. The 485 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: cops were on each side of him guarding him. Detective 486 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 2: Weaver said, well, I'm sure you know why we're here, 487 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: and I looked at him and I was like, no, 488 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: I absolutely don't know why you're here. There was such 489 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: a deep feeling of knowing this is going to be 490 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: bad and our life is never going to be the same. 491 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: The police then wanted to meet with Stacy privately. 492 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: I went downstairs into the man cave with the detectives 493 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: and Detective Weaver had kind of laid everything out on 494 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: the couch. I was sick. It was a sickness that 495 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: I felt as soon as I saw it. 496 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: Why were the police surrounding Justin and what did they 497 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: show Stacy? 498 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: It was just like, what is going on here? What 499 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: in the world is going on? 500 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: That's next time on Betrayal. On this season of Betrayal, 501 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: a family is thrown into chaos. 502 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I was going to shoot to kill if 503 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 2: he was coming after me and my kids. 504 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: A husband, doctor, and father shocks his family. 505 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 2: There's no way that he could have done this. 506 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: And his patients. 507 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: It was a totally different man. 508 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know who that idiot was, but 509 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: it clearly was not doctor Rutherford. As they learn who 510 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: Justin Rutherford really is and what he is capable of. 511 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: He to me is scarier than Jeffrey Dahmer. You know, 512 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: the level of manipulation was like a serial killer. 513 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal team, 514 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: email us at Betrayal pod at gmail dot com. That's 515 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: Betrayal pod at gmail dot com. We're grateful for your support. 516 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: One way to show support is by subscribing to our 517 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: show on Apple Podcasts, and don't forget to rate and 518 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: review Betrayal. Five star reviews go a long way. A 519 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: big thank you to all of our listeners. Betrayal is 520 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: a production of Glass Podcasts, a division of Glass Entertainment Group, 521 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: in partnership with iHeart Podcasts. The show is executive produced 522 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: by Nancy Glass and Jennifer Fason. Hosted and produced by 523 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: me Andrea Gunning, written and produced by Kerry Hartman, also 524 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: produced by Ben Fetterman. Associate producers are Kristin Melcurie and 525 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: Grace Bollinger. Our iHeart team is Ali Perry and Jessica Crincheck. 526 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Stacy Rutherford, Tyler and the rest of 527 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: Stacy and Tyler's friends and family. Audio editing and mixing 528 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: by Matt Salvechio. Editing support from Nico Ruka. Betrayals theme 529 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: composed by Oliver Bains. 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