1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Did you ever float there? 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: I don't float. I don't like to have much. I 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: never like to have my shirt off. I don't float now. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: I don't float. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm Bobby Bones and I don't float. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: All right, the guest will be Caitln Butts coming up. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Kaitlyn Butts. She has the 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: song you Ain't Got to Die to be Dead to Me, 9 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: and she put out a record called the Ehaw Sessions. 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: We talk about it. It's covers, but she did Jimmy 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: Eat World the Middle, which I thought was great. We 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: get into all that, but just so you have some 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: context about who you're listening to. She has the Roadrunner 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: Tour two point zero in Europe and the United States, 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: and tickets all up at Caitlin Butts dot com k 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: A I T L I N b U T t 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: s dot com. Caitlyn has spelled so many ways, which 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: I've learned because that is my wife's name and everybody 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: spells it wrong. There's with the K, there's the C, 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: there's for the y. So Tulsa Oklahoma native, and let's 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 2: talk to her now, super funny, love her music. It 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: is Kaitlin Buttes, Caitlyn Good to see you. 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Got to see you too. 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: I gotta start by saying I never wear cowboy hats. 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: Yeah it looks good on you. 26 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: And this wasn't for you. It wasn't because I would 27 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: have thought perfect timing. Yeah, but I got a package 28 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: from Landman today. 29 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's perfect. You know we're in it backwards. It's perfect. 30 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: You did well. 31 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm from Arkansas, so I mean I wore cowboy hats 32 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: a little bit as a kid. Yeah, but I grew 33 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: up more white trash country than cowboy country. Yeah, there's 34 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: a distinct difference. 35 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, truly, I didn't grow up either way. So I've 36 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: definitely been on stage before and gotten off stage and 37 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: been like, my hat is on backwards right now? 38 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: No way? 39 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like it felt kind of funny on 40 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: my head the whole time. But it's like I get 41 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: ready in the dark half the time in my van, 42 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: like in between seats. I that's why I have so 43 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: many wardrobe malfunctions. I have a lot of the way 44 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: to get ready is not always like in a green 45 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: room with all the lights. It's normally in my van 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: and putting my hat on backwards. For a couple of shows, 47 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: I was just like, dude. 48 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: What you want to get? You want a cowboy? Growing up? 49 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't. No, I was in musical theater growing up 50 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: until in the middle of the city of Tulsa. 51 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: You sell it perfectly things. 52 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I so my background is like really different. 53 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, but what's weird is like musical theater. I 54 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: think I said this last time. It was so weaved 55 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: into what I sang about. Even in musical theater, I 56 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: was doing like tap dances to Johnny Cash or The Chicks, 57 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: or songs about murder, which is always a common theme. 58 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: And you know country, and I mean I always was 59 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: in country or like I was Mary Rogers and Will 60 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: Rogers Polly's growing up or doing any get your gun 61 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: with a with a rifle on my back, like I 62 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: was always in country music, get up, and I mean 63 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: being from Oklahoma, that's just like a part of the culture. 64 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: But no, I didn't grow up doing that. And it 65 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: wasn't until I was probably twenty probably twenty three or 66 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: twenty four. My mom and I moved to Lone Grove, 67 00:02:54,639 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and got twenty acres and we got donkeys for 68 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: esthetic purposes. And that was like the only time that 69 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: I've actually felt like I had that kind of life 70 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: of I mean, we were such city girls. We literally 71 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: the only time I'd ever seen a bale of hay, Like, 72 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: how I get these delivered these donkeys from a guy 73 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: that had a podcast at the time, You. 74 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: Got a donkey delivery from a guy with a podcast? 75 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeaheah. I told him that I like the happiest part 76 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: of my day going home was my mom and I 77 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: would take this like road less traveled or they're long 78 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: way home so that we could go look at the donkeys. 79 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: And they were just so cute to us. And he 80 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: was like, do you want donkeys? And I said I 81 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: would kill for some donkeys, oh my gosh. And he 82 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm trying to get rid of these 83 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: two miniature donkeys, and so I named him Thelma and 84 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Louise and what was crazy? So he dumped them at 85 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: my house and I had no idea how to take 86 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: care of him. And the only place I had seen 87 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: Straw this is so this is so embarrassing. Every cowboy 88 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: is going to be like, you, dumb girl. The only 89 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: time I'd seen Straw was like at hobby lobby, like 90 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: for like. 91 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: All crafts, I did work in hobby lobby for a 92 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: long time, so I'm very familiar with that straw. 93 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I yeah, you know the little thing. I was like, 94 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: this is little will get them through the day until 95 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: I know where to buy straw. And I called the 96 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: guy and was like, hey, yeah, I got to them 97 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: some straw. I'm on my way home right now, but like, 98 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: where can I get like more? And he said where 99 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: did you buy the straw? I said, hobby lobby. This 100 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: only place that I've ever seen straw, or hey, I 101 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: don't know, and he was like, good God, so he 102 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: dropped off this big barrel. It was actually my car 103 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: dealer that I called to ask for That's so crazy. Yeah, 104 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: so I definitely didn't grow country, but I kind of 105 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: morphed into it in my mid twenties and lived that 106 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: country lifestyle a little bit more. 107 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, did the donkeys live, Uh? 108 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: Yes, they actually so my mom moved out of that house. 109 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: It was a lot to take care of after I 110 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: had moved out, taking care of twenty acres. It's just 111 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: not something a woman like by herself can really manage, 112 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: and so they can, but you know, she just didn't 113 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: want to, and so she gave that those donkeys. Thelma 114 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: and Louise are at the CAFETERI. She's a teacher, so 115 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: she gave him to the I think like a cafeteria 116 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: lator or a janitor or something like that. But she's 117 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: got kiddos and who love them and. 118 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: They're still alive. 119 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 120 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that hobby lobby. That's funny. 121 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: It's embarrassing, and first embarrassing story ever on Bobby Bones. 122 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: It could I see where that could be confused though. Yeah, 123 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: but you grew up in Oklahoma, so I would say 124 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: your version of a city girl is still a little 125 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: bit country. 126 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's I feel like, 127 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: at least the stories and the appreciation for the lifestyle 128 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: is something that I've always looked to and wanted to 129 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: be a part of. But like even like Vince gill 130 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: or Willie Nelson, they've never like claimed to be cowboys 131 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: or lived that life. But you really appreciate it and 132 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: you look to it, and you know know that it's 133 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: necessary in this world. 134 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: My uncle Rick had a bunch of hogs and horses 135 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: and he lived on the like a side of him 136 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: he still does side of a hill mountain In Arkansas, 137 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: we have mountains but they're not real mountains. They don't 138 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: have no mountains. Yeah, that kind of mounts. If you 139 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: don't have a name, you're not really a mountain. But 140 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: I'm from a town called Mountain Pine, and so on 141 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: the side of this mountain all the hogs lived, and 142 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: on the top of the mountain where he lived, all 143 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: the horses were. And so grew up trailer park poor 144 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: for the most part, but not cowboy poor, except he 145 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: was a cowboy. And that's the only time I felt 146 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: like I could wear a cowboy hat because I had 147 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: to slap his hogs when I was there, and I 148 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: would ride his horses a lot when I was there, 149 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: and I kind of stopped being a weekend cowboy I 150 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: was riding. Have you done much horse riding at all? Okay, 151 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: I've only done a minimal amount. But I used to 152 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: ride his bare bag because they just existed, and I 153 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: was a kid, so I would get on the horses. 154 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: And I remember being a teenager and riding one of 155 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: his horses and it took me underneath the power line. 156 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, it literally closed line. I guess it 157 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: wasn't a power line, it was a it was a 158 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: clothes line. Yeah, it literally closed line me off the horse. Yeah, 159 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: power line would have been a hold the store. And 160 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: so I have a real respect and I thought I 161 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: cannot pull. I'm not tough enough to be a cowboy. Yeah, 162 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: and I don't look like it. Yeah, I look like 163 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: Weezer meets a cowboy. 164 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean, what an aesthetic. Though. If I were to 165 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: see you on the side of the road dress like 166 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: this on a horse in Fort Worth, Texas, Cardigan, I'd 167 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: believe it. He's on brand for himself. I mean, you know, 168 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: authentic to you. 169 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: When did you want to do music that wasn't theatrical music. 170 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean it was around the time that Miranda Lambert, 171 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: the Wreckers, Brandy Carlyle, and Taylor Swift. They were all 172 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: just like all these women that I already I just 173 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: love their music and listen to it. But I mean, 174 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: I love I grew up listening to nineties country like 175 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: most kids in Oklahoma and whatever was on the radio, 176 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: and so it was just girls that After I had 177 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: seen the Wreckers play at Kaine's ball Room a long 178 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: time ago, I was like, that is what I want 179 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: to do because I loved I love that their storytelling 180 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: wasn't always super bright it was about real life they 181 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: as I saw it. And I love obviously Taylor Swift. 182 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I love Miranda Lamber and like that fire that she 183 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: has and I feel like I have that too, some 184 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: like buried inside of me and need to get it 185 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: out somehow. And I had a really cool guitar player 186 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: or guitar teacher who sat me down for my first 187 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: lesson and was like, knew my mom had kind of 188 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: sidebar conversation with him, was like, she needs quick gratification. 189 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: So she like, if she's gonna play guitar, like she 190 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: needs to know something by the end or else she's 191 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna you know, don't teach her theory upfront. She will 192 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: not be interested in that, which is so true. And 193 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: so he asked me what my favorite song was right now, 194 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: and I said Karrosene by Miranda Lambert and he taught 195 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: me that. 196 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: They like at the beginning yeah, And. 197 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I feel like a rock star. 198 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: This is the coolest thing ever. And so he showed 199 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: me GCD and said, find all the Miranda Lambert songs 200 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: that have GC and Danna and Taylor Swift and all 201 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: the girls that you like. You now will be able 202 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: to play those songs if you get the rhythm right. 203 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: And so that was my homework, was to print out 204 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: all these ultimate guitar tabs and chords and just listen 205 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: to them and sing them and try to play them. 206 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: How old are you, Dan, I was fifteen. 207 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: Did you become obsessed with learning the guitar? Yeah? 208 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean it was more just I wanted I love 209 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: to perform in front of my family in the living 210 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: room and just like play songs for them, and yeah, 211 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: I just love to play the song. It wasn't more 212 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: like obsessed with learning how to be a shredder, but 213 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: it was more about just performing and getting to sing 214 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: because it feels good. 215 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: I love the records. Yeah, they came and played a 216 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: show with my band at the Rhyme and two years ago. 217 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: It was the first time they'd been together in like 218 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: ten years. Yeah and so and individually and together. And 219 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: I was a massive Michelle Branch fan. Yeah, back in 220 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: the day. 221 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Can I tell you something really cool? 222 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: I would love to hear it. 223 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: She liked my middle video on Instagram the other day, 224 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: And I let out a scream in the middle of 225 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Heart's Cafe the other day by myself, because I'm such 226 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: a huge fan of her and the records. That's like 227 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: why I play guitar and she's That was the cool 228 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: moment I met her. Yet, No, I haven't, but I 229 00:09:59,600 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: love her. 230 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: She's super cool. Yeah, And I was worried that she 231 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: wouldn't be because you know, she became kind of reluctant, 232 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: that reluctant star after a while because she hit so 233 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: hard so young, and then on her own accord a lot, 234 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: she just kind of fell back and then came back 235 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: and released a couple of songs, and we were doing 236 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: this big show for Saint Jude, and I get I 237 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: don't take rejection. Well, I don't get angry, but I 238 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: get hurt, Like I take everything so personally, and I 239 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: tried not to. I've read the four Agreements like twenty times, 240 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: and one of the four agreements is take nothing personal 241 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: in business. But I still I like, I have an 242 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: affinity for her music because I loved it when I 243 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: was younger. She spoke to me the young girl, Yeah, my. 244 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: Younger young everyone's got a young girl and. 245 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: Says them, and so I was nervous that they were 246 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: going to say no, and they immediately said yes, that's awesome, 247 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 2: and Jessica flew down from she lived in Midwest, maybe 248 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: Saint Louis, and they came and did my show, my 249 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: radio show, and then they came and played with us 250 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: at the rhyme and not only did we do lead 251 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: the pieces from which A plus Michelle Branch was cool 252 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: enough to do her songs too, and it was it 253 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: was really, really great. And I thought for a minute 254 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: they were going to do a record again because I 255 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: was really come on. 256 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Gay kind of talked about it. 257 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and then they haven't yet. I'm still holding 258 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: on done. 259 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm holding on for it. I mean, those those songs, 260 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, even listening to them when I was a kid, 261 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: it just opened me up to like Patty Griffin, I 262 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: didn't know before I was really into this, I didn't 263 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: realize how many artists like cover other songwriters and it's 264 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: not always their song, like Miranda, you know, picks other 265 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: people's songs, and but Patty Griffin was one that I 266 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: was introed by the records and that just opens up 267 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 1: your whole world of you know, like those are the 268 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: chick songs that I love. That's Patty Griffin, And yeah, 269 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: I love the records. I need them to make another album, 270 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: but I will hang on to, you know, leave the 271 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: Pieces album with Rain and One More Girl. I covered 272 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: One More Girl for the Saddihaw sessions last time I 273 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: did it, and I just love. 274 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: Them the project you did with the Middle, and I've 275 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: talked about the Middle, and I've played that song a 276 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: lot on my radio show because I just think it's 277 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: so good. I thought, I think the song itself is 278 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: so good, but I thought your version was wonderfully poignant, 279 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: and it felt different because that song by Jimmy heat World. Listen. 280 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: I was an alternative kid in the nineties. I was 281 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: an alternative kid and I was a country kid because 282 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: country music talked about where I was from and alternative 283 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: music talked about how I felt. Although I don't know 284 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: if I was really that angry, no. 285 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: But I relate to that a lot. I mean, I 286 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: listened to a lot of emo music growing up in 287 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: that alternative world, ever, Lavine, I mean everything, I mean 288 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: red jumpsuit apparatus or even like Rob Zombie like on 289 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: that world. I felt like that kind of angst that 290 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: they had, but I also had same with like country music. 291 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: It's like you relate in all kinds of ways. I 292 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: feel like country has that inks too. 293 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Sometimes In Jimmy world, that song was so that tempo. 294 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: It was an outbeat song, so it didn't really ever 295 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: translate to me what he was really saying until I 296 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: started to read the lyrics. And I've talked about it 297 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: so many times. This is way before you put it out. Then, 298 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people, because they just love 299 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: the song and there's an electric guitar and the tempos fast, 300 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 2: that they probably are just like this fun song, like 301 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: just partying. Yeah, but it's rich, really a heartfelt song, 302 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: it really is, and it's really like a a like 303 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: a motivating you can do it type song. Yeah, and so, 304 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: and I'd have had many conversations about that, even doing 305 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: music podcasts. And then when you did this song, like 306 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: I was affected by it. I was like, wow, this, 307 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: this is kind of capturing what the secret of that 308 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: song is. Ye, why did you do that song? 309 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: I'd been at Frans karaoke night here in Nashville on 310 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: Gallatin and I was after you and Got to Die 311 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: went viral. I got lots of attention, which is I 312 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: love attention, So I was taking it in lots of 313 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: label started sniffing around. I had lots of really cool opportunities. 314 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: I had people singing my songs and like more people 315 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: listening to my music than ever before. I just saw 316 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: this huge spike of attention, and at the same time, 317 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: I was getting just like this overwhelmingly huge amount of 318 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: just negative attention at the same time. And I'd never 319 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: seen that level of just like critiques about my hair, body, face, personality, 320 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: am my talent? Am I not good enough? Like? And 321 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't typically like take in those comments and take 322 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: them to heart, but once about every twenty eight days 323 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: or so, I start to become very fragile and frail 324 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: and wonder like, are they right about me? Am I? 325 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: Am I not? 326 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: Am I not good? Am I not? Am I ugly? 327 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: Am I not talented? Like? Am I not funny? And 328 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I know I'm funny, but like I 329 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: I so it just kind of makes you check yourself. 330 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: And I wasn't feeling very good one night and went 331 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: to karaoke to make myself feel better, because that's what I, 332 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: as a professional singer, do to make myself feel better 333 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: is go to karaoke. And she started A girl started 334 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: singing the song and it I love that dive bar 335 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: so much. It's like it's such an unassuming place and 336 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: but this girl gets up there and she's singing this 337 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: song with like all of her passion, and like there's 338 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: like maybe four people in the front doing their thing, 339 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: and the lyrics come up on the screen and I 340 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: just start like crying because I was like, oh my god, 341 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: I needed to hear I didn't know what the song 342 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: was about, like you said, but I needed to hear 343 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: those words. And it was just such a moving moment 344 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: for me to like see that. And so the next 345 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: day I looked at my manager I was like, oh 346 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: my god, this song is like making me choke up. 347 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: And the next day I just pulled up the chords 348 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: because whenever I want to hear something again or just 349 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: like I just wanted wanted to play it and see 350 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: what it would sound like. And then I played it 351 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: at sound check and my band was just like WHOA, 352 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: Like that sounds so cool. I like how you like 353 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: slowed it down, and they started playing it with me, 354 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: and before you know what, we're playing it at our 355 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: shows and I'm I'm just looking out into the crowd 356 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: like realizing, like these people everbody needs to hear this too. 357 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: I feel like every show I need to say it 358 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: to myself, and so it just felt like one of 359 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: those really cathartic songs that I need to sing for 360 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: my own self. But then like look out to individual people, 361 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: like that's a moment for me to just like really 362 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: look into the eyes of people and let remind people 363 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: that they're in the middle of this, like, you know, 364 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: no pun intended, but like this ride of am I 365 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: gonna let people that are negative, like impact this huge 366 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: moment that I've had with you ain't got to die 367 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: or this huge career moment, let them like rain on 368 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: the parade. And it's like, hell, no, I'm not gonna 369 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: let some guys sitting behind a keyboard, you know, tell 370 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: me that you know I'm not good enough or I 371 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: don't deserve this, or I haven't worked hard enough for it, 372 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: and or tell me the'm ugly because I know I'm not. 373 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: But there's but I think getting to that vulnerable point 374 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: on stage and talking to people because I feel like 375 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't I talk about a lot of things, but 376 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: just connecting with them and letting them know that like 377 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm not perfect and I never claimed to be, but 378 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: I struggled and so connecting in that way on stage 379 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: is something I want to do with that song, like 380 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: every night feels so good. 381 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. The first line of that song is, hey, don't 382 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: write yourself off yet. 383 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 384 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of the message I'm not 385 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: going to stay lost, I think is translated yeah, different 386 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: because of how fast and how electric and how you know, 387 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: rock that song. 388 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: It's freeing too. I like the tempo of the bigness 389 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: of it because it's freeing. It kind of makes you 390 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: want to thrash around, and maybe that's what they wanted. 391 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: But playing it slow and being really intentional and like 392 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: making people hear the words how I want them to 393 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: be heard is like just another way to hear it. 394 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: I loved it. 395 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: Thank you. 396 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: I'm jaded, so I don't love a lot of things 397 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: like I loved it. 398 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 399 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: I also I don't have a period and don't min 400 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: stright in about twenty eight days. I bet every twenty 401 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: eight days I feel the same way. 402 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: So, well, you have a wife. My husband gets sympathy 403 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: pains or whatever. He calls oh my god. I'm like, no, 404 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: you're just email right now. 405 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: I just am affected too by that. Yeah, And I've 406 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: been doing this a long time. 407 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: There's no way you can't be human and not be 408 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: affected by people's critiquing you, because like we are all 409 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: trying our best ever at every point, like we're just 410 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: doing the best that we can with what we have, 411 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: and yeah, people are just terrible sometimes, but I think 412 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: that in those times, like I really every time there's 413 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: a negative person, I'm like, I click on their profile 414 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: to like see who they are if it's terrible, like 415 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: alarmingly terrible, And I have the best advice that I 416 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: was ever I saw on the internet. I don't remember where, 417 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: but it was like, never take advice from someone that 418 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: you wouldn't trade places with, and that like stuck with 419 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: me hard and all of these people, I would never 420 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: trade places with them. They are they're sad people, And 421 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: I think that then it kind of shifts your perspective 422 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: of like I feel bad for this person, Like I 423 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: feel genuine sorrow for them for them to get on 424 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: the internet and just like on some girl that they 425 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: don't know me, they don't know how my whole past, 426 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: or that I don't think that I'm perfect either, or 427 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: I just start to feel compassion for those people because 428 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: they're sad people who is busy and cool that is 429 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: sitting there on the internet. That's right, you're bored, Okay. 430 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: The Internet. So first what I do because I have 431 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: to manage and an even boundary myself or I spiral 432 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: hard because we wouldn't have got into this business if 433 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: we didn't have a screw loose ye, right, and we're 434 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: searching for affirmation, like we're doing creative things and we 435 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: need people to like them for different reasons. It could 436 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: be for success for personal But I now do not 437 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: allow myself to look at any comments at all unless 438 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: it's on a Tuesday. 439 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: Is it a Tuesday. I just had to pick a day, 440 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: just had one day. 441 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 2: I had to pick it a day that allowed me 442 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: to actually go over And it's almost like when I 443 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: would have a cheat day when I was super into fitness. 444 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: If I didn't have a cheat day, I would think 445 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: I'd always be on the edge, like maybe I should 446 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 2: just break down. But if I knew I had one coming, 447 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: I could always get through the next because Tuesday, I'm 448 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: gonna have freaking cokecakes. So I don't hit the app 449 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: replies on my Twitter. I don't look at comments in 450 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: my Instagram unless it's on Tuesday, and then I'm just 451 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 2: playing the odds because I've got to be in a 452 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: place too where I'm feeling sad or anxious or I've 453 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: got to feel a bit vulnerable anyway to be affected 454 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: in that way. Normal me doesn't get affected by stuff. 455 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: But if the world's if that ven diagram of all 456 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: the things hits and it's right, and I'm in it. Yeah, 457 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: I don't like the version of me that I turn 458 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: into because I get triggered and I fight and it's ugly. 459 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: I'll kill people on life. 460 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: And so but what you got to be perfect if 461 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: you're coming for me, is all I gotta say. 462 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: I think that if what I say to myself is 463 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to listen to anybody, like I'm not 464 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: going to take your critique if I wouldn't take your advice, 465 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: So that's not worthy in affecting me positively. But also 466 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: I do feel bad for them as well, because I 467 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: don't have one, I'm gonna say, well adjusted, balanced friend 468 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: that gets on controls people. Yeah, and so there's something 469 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: missing from their life that makes them act this way, 470 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: and that them acting that way is just a symptom 471 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: of the disease of something I ain't going right for them, Yeah, 472 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: and they're taking it out on what they feel are 473 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: people that do have things going right for them. 474 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, completely unprompted. It's just great. It's crazy. Sometimes I'm like, 475 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean, my response will be cutthroat, but I'll know, 476 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: like there's never a time that I would just like 477 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: be mean, even if I hated the person or disagreed. 478 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: There's that's such a waste of time to just sit 479 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: there and type or just be ugly or I don't know, 480 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: it just like reflects who you are. 481 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: I love the song. All that to say, I'm not 482 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: glad that all happened to you, but I benefited by 483 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: them being mean to you on the internet because I 484 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: had a great song to listen to. 485 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: Well. I mean, like literally everything you know has a reason, 486 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: and I think that if something positive can come out 487 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: of all that negativity and just people being hateful, this 488 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: is just my response to all of that. And there's 489 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: not anyone that I've ever known that hasn't been bullied 490 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: or hasn't felt like they're enough. Like, so that was 491 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: the whole purpose, was like this is for me. All 492 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: of my music that I put out is like to 493 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: make myself feel good and get that artistry out and 494 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: because I feel uncomfortable whenever I hold it all in, 495 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: but it really is to like to get it out 496 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: there and make people know that they're not alone and 497 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: feel in that way. 498 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 3: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor, 499 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: and we're back on the Bobby cast. 500 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: I was a weird kid because I was a creative kid. 501 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: And when you're a creative kid, and luckily I was 502 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 2: a smart kid, but I was at a bad school, 503 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: so I wasn't cool if you're like the art kid, 504 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: the performing kid. And also I got really good grades, 505 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I got the crap beat out of me 506 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: for those reasons, because there wasn't really a part of 507 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: my school that allowed, accepted or promoted that, Yeah, you 508 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: grew up in Oklahoma. I wouldn't again, I wouldn't say 509 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 2: that's like the mecca of Broadway. That's what a lot 510 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: of Broadway stars aren't coming from Oklahoma. Well, Chris and 511 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 2: chenaw with is, Yes, so were you accepted they'll being 512 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: a real artsy kid. 513 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean I grew up man. I had so many 514 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: different friend groups. I had like friends that were in 515 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: like the robotics, class I have. 516 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: It was on the robotics class. 517 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was at Tulsa Union. It was 518 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: a really big like sex huge football teams and like 519 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: we were in state like almost every year, and and 520 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: I was on the Palm squad. I was a part of. 521 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: I didn't do theater in within the school. I did 522 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: it outside because it was like a bigger situation at 523 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: theater arts. But I definitely had just different friends and 524 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: different friend groups, so I definitely did not and like 525 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: because Union was such a like healthy place where theater 526 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: kids were also pretty cool. I mean they're nerdy in 527 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: their own ways, but it wasn't like this like ugly thing. 528 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was terribly nerdy. I was Danny Zuko 529 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: and Greece. 530 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: If they were making fun of me, I just didn't 531 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: know about it. 532 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 2: Did they let me fists? 533 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 534 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: I really got told dang, that's awful. I got my 535 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: head stuck in the toilet. 536 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: You got like old school bullied. 537 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm also a little older school than you, 538 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 2: if we're just saying, but. 539 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's like movie style bullied. 540 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, it's great. 541 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: Like I didn't think that that really really, Like no 542 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: one I know that didn't happen. 543 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it happened. Yeah it sucked. But now I got 544 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: to be so funny because of it. 545 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: I mean everything has made me funnier. 546 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade it for anything. Yeah, I got my head. 547 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 2: I got picked up in the hallway and taken in. 548 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: What I remember is this is gross. They were taking 549 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: me in in our bathrooms. They didn't allow doors on 550 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: the stalls because it was a bad school. And I 551 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: say that I love my school, like I have pride 552 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: for it. Yeah, but bad. We took gang members kicked 553 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: out of other schools into our school. So when I 554 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 2: say bad, I don't mean like the people are bad. 555 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: It just the environment wasn't good. Yeah, and so there 556 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: were no doors on the bathroom stalls, and so they 557 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 2: were taking me to put my head in the toilet. 558 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: What happened in the girls stalls too. 559 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: I didn't go in there. I don't know. 560 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: Oh I know, but like, what if y'all had to 561 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: do something else in there? 562 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: But no, that's really you weren't allowed to because they 563 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: would rather you have to poop with no door, then 564 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: you go behind the stall and be up to something. 565 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: So they removed all the doors. 566 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: My gosh, yeah, that is my worst nightmare. 567 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: So they were picking me up to put me in, 568 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 2: and I look in the toilet's full of pee and 569 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: so I'm fighting back and slapping the handle so it flushes. 570 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: And as soon as it I knew I wasn't gonna 571 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: win forever. But as soon as it totally flushed, I 572 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: was like, all right, take me, and so they dump 573 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: me in. I went back to class with the wet 574 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 2: heead and you can't You also can't tell. 575 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Then then what does the teacher say when you walk 576 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: in there with the toilet heead? 577 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't say it was toilet heead. I said 578 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: I was fixing my hair, but I had water all 579 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: on my shirt collar too. I think, dude, I. 580 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: Think I would be such a snitch if that happened 581 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: to me. I'm not that cool. 582 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want it to happen again, but I, 583 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: you know, not the best environment. But we had plays 584 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 2: and I was on the plays and so I was 585 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: Danny Zuko johns Folda's part in Greece nice and I 586 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: loved it. Yeah, I just couldn't sing like I had 587 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: everything else. The charisma, yeah, you name it, and I 588 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: c plus at best, and it had so much charisma. 589 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard you sing. 590 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: I should check out a little something called Hobby Lobby Bobby. 591 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: One one of my better comedy. 592 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Songs, Hobby Lobby. We've been talking about Hobby Lobby. 593 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Oh so I wrote. Yeah, So I 594 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: have a song called Hobby Lobby Bobby. And I play 595 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: in a musical comedy group and I am the lead 596 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: singer of that group. But it's mostly about the comedy. 597 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: That's why you like you Ain't Got to Dies because 598 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: of the comedy. 599 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: I think I like the theater of it, Yeah, more 600 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: than just a comedy of it. And I like the theater, 601 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: and I liked how non traditional it was in a 602 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: very traditional space. I liked playing it. And I have 603 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: a national radio show, obviously, but we don't play a 604 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: lot of music on the show. It's mostly us talking 605 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: for five hours. So we strategically have songs that we 606 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: play and I don't program the music, but I can 607 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: spike music if I want, and so I would play 608 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 2: your song and I would just see so many messages 609 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: like what is that? And I like that. I like 610 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: what is that for? If I'm doing something and if 611 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm playing something, I like that that song hit like 612 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: a freaking wrecking ball. Yeah, And I think I saw 613 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: it first on Ella Langley's TikTok? Is that what launched 614 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: that whole song? 615 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: It was Averyanna first and she started because we were 616 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: on upper next Stage Class of twenty twenty five together, 617 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: and so she just started making tiktoks to it, and 618 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: I was like seeing a quit, like an a just 619 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: a reflection of a spike just everywhere, and I was like, 620 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: I need to play into this. This is going to 621 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: be this could pop off in any kind of way 622 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: or just feed into what she's doing. And because she 623 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: was like making You never want to make your own trend, 624 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: but you as an artist kind of have to like 625 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: encourage people. But she was like making the trend and 626 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: it was spiking. And then Ella did hers, and that 627 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: just like blew it out of the water. 628 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 2: Because all this the finger quote stuff was happening. Yeah, 629 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: all the disc it was Riley and l and people 630 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: were wondering and Oh, I'm. 631 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: Like, happily feed me into this whatever drama that is 632 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: not even real or not, I don't know, just like 633 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: just help me. 634 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: Do people sing that song really loud when you play 635 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: it shows. 636 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I after that went viral. I went 637 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: on tour with White Flores and it was the loudest 638 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: and like opening shows and stuff, you don't always people 639 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: don't always know who you are. They're not singing back 640 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: to you. And I knew whenever I got to that song, like, 641 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: I was excited to see the reaction because people are talking. 642 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: It's a social event. And when I got to that chorus, 643 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: man phones shot up. It was the first time that 644 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: I'd seen that for my own, for my own song. 645 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: To just see just like a wall of phones go 646 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: up and. 647 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: Just keep screaming. It's so cool. 648 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: It's so cool, and it feels so good that it's 649 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: a you don't get to choose your viral moment. You know, 650 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: it could just have been me doing something crazy or stupid, 651 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: or a song that you know doesn't like reflect me 652 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: as a human. I guess. I mean that song is 653 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: me to my core. It's country as all hell, there's 654 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: fiddle on it, there's like I mean, there's this message 655 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: of standing up for yourself and writing off someone in 656 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: your life that's toxic, or there's this like southern aspect 657 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: to it. And I just I'm so glad that that 658 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: is the song that like shot into outer space. 659 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: I think that would be such a cool moment the 660 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: first time everybody knows your song. 661 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, they might not know me, but they know that 662 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: that blurb. 663 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: For me, I was touring a bunch. I did a special, 664 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: a comedy special, and CMT bought it and it was 665 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: great and it was fun. And then I was like, 666 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 2: I'm not on the road anymore. It was too much. 667 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: I was working, still am working every day doing all 668 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 2: these podcasts, but I didn't want to tour any more 669 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: because I was exhausted because I would work five days 670 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: and then be on the road three that's eight days. 671 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: But one of the days I'd be doing both the 672 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: show and I would be out. And there have been 673 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: a couple of times, and the opera is always really 674 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: cool if this happens, but where I would tell a 675 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: joke and the people would laugh and then go into applause. Yeah, 676 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: it's just like you can't even it's like a dru. 677 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: I have even done a drug, but it's like, I 678 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: think that's what I think. That's what heroin is. 679 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: Is this an opiate? 680 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: Yes, It's like, do you hate it's like your tangles 681 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: inside of your body. I just feel like that's what 682 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: it feel like when everybody knows your song, everybody pulls 683 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: out their phone to do that. On my show, I 684 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: played your version of Tulsa time. 685 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: Hm. 686 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: Again, I'm not trying to just build you up here. 687 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 688 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: Thank you. 689 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: I love that song anyway, the original Yeah, obviously Keith 690 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 2: recently Yes, yeah, and so there's a lot to live 691 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: up to with that. Yeah, I think you crushed it. 692 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks. 693 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: Why did you record that one? Because of Tulsa? And 694 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: it made sense pretty much. 695 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they're all songs on the sessions. It had 696 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: been songs that we'd played on the Roadrunner tour for 697 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: probably the last year and a half or so, and 698 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: those songs we just have so much fun with and 699 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 1: I just every we did red Wine super Nova by 700 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: Chapel Roan, we did, we did Tulsa Time, we did 701 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: the Middle, we did Sydwagon by The Chicks, and they're 702 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: all songs that I'd wish that I had written and 703 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: that we just love to play live. And I was like, 704 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: we need to deliver this so that they can have 705 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: like a portion a piece of the road Owner Tour 706 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: to come home with, and those were the covers that 707 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: we kind of rotated. And now people are asking if 708 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm a cover band. I'm like, no, I've got three 709 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: albums of original songs. 710 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: But I think that would annoy me just a little bit. 711 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: But I'd have to, like I talked to myself about 712 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: the earlier stuff, like yep, I got to tell myself 713 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: again they don't they. 714 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Don't know how Yeah, that's not for them. Yeah, but 715 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: so I did Tulsa Time from Tulsa Love Don Williams, 716 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: love all of his music, and I just wanted again 717 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: to like change the tempo to to fit my vibe 718 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: because I definitely sped it up and just wanted to 719 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: feel a little bit more fiery. And band loves playing it. 720 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened? Did you talked to labels? Did you? 721 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: Did you sign anywhere? 722 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: I signed with Republic Records. 723 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: That's a real one. 724 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: That's a that's a real label. One that's not like 725 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: someone it's. 726 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 2: Not Caitlin but sink. Sometimes it's not someone's I kind 727 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: of know, how did you decide who to sign with? 728 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: Or even now because the environment is so different, you 729 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: don't have to sign it's definitely a different hustle. 730 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: If you don't why, I mean it was. I think 731 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: I needed more. I have such a great team, but 732 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: we're very small. It's really just me and a couple 733 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: people that run everything for me. And I've done the 734 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: smaller label thing, and I think I just really wanted 735 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: some fire. I really wanted to I as a country 736 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: female artist, like wanted some just wanted to give it 737 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: a go. I'd never done it before, never been asked, 738 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: and I had like over a dozen labels reach out 739 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: after you Ain't Got to Die? 740 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: Wow, did it feel weird to be wanted? After? 741 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh? To be wanted? It didn't feel weird. It felt 742 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: really awesome because for the first time I really felt 743 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: I used to think when I was like twenty two 744 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: or twenty three, like I'm ready, you know, like put 745 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: me on wherever. And I've been doing this for a 746 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: long time, and I truly feel like I'm ready for 747 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: you can put me anywhere. That's how I feel now. 748 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: And I feel really confident, confident in whatever stage I'm 749 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: in or or like not even in a musical setting, 750 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: like talking in an interview. I feel pretty confident, confident 751 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: in who I am and what I have to say, 752 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: like I know, I can entertain, and so I feel 753 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: really happy that it happened when it did because I 754 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: truly feel ready for it. And so when it came 755 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: to picking I it was really hard. 756 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: How did you know who was telling you what they 757 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: wanted to tell you? Yeah, versus what you the truth? 758 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: I think it was hard. I mean, you can feel 759 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: really giddy about people because they see something in you, 760 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: and you can kind of be dangled here. Lots of 761 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: flattery goes on and lots of great ideas too. I 762 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: mean they're great teams. It just kind of felt there 763 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: was one deciding factor. I mean a couple really, but 764 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 1: I already knew Mary Catherine, who they just put her 765 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: in charge of Nashville at Republic and she's signed Marcus 766 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: King and others that I really love, and I've always 767 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: had a good relationship with her. And she sought me 768 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: out just and told everyone about me before she could 769 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: even benefit from it, from probably like five six years ago, 770 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: and was like, I'm obsessed with Katelyn Butts. And she 771 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: would showed me a text the day that we signed 772 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: that it was before she had any reason to care 773 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: about what I was doing. She had sent sent like 774 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: several people, Caitlin Butts is a star and she's going 775 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: to be huge one day, so that was really cool, 776 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: and just someone who I really believed in and the 777 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: whole team, especially someone like Roppo who's over there at Republic. 778 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: I always try to determine how I feel about a person, 779 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: no matter who it is, based off of how I 780 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: act around them, and I felt like, if I'm acting 781 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: as my true, authentic self, that's how I kind of 782 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: determined my what I think about them, if that makes sense. 783 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: If I'm over inflating my ego or trying to convince 784 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: them but I'm this person, or I'm shrinking myself or 785 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: being quiet or not saying the funny thing that comes 786 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: to my head, I obviously feel a certain way about 787 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: that person. And so after reflecting after those label meetings, 788 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I've felt like I could say, I 789 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: felt like my true self when I left, Like I 790 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: left being me and I didn't feel like I was 791 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: trying to convince them that I was something or I 792 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: was trying to, I don't know, be too humble or whatever. 793 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: I've felt like myself when I left, and that's who 794 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: I want to work with. And yeah, that's why I 795 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: signed with them. 796 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: That's a good point. It's not just how they are, Yeah, 797 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: it's how you are when you're with them. I think 798 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: that's also in relationships. 799 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: Oh totally. I mean every relationship that I've ever had, 800 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: business or not. It's like that's something a tool that 801 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: I've found, like do I do I actually like this person? 802 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: Why am I trying to convince them to like me? 803 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: Like that's something that I've had to really reflect on, 804 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: just doing business with anyone or just not or just 805 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: a relationship wise too. 806 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: My wife's from Tulsa, right near Tulsa. 807 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: And I forget that. That's so cool. 808 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, her favorite movies is Oklahoma. I'd never seen it 809 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: until now, well until she made me watch it. We 810 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: did a thing where we watched it when we were dating. Yeah, 811 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 2: we've now been married for almost five years. But when 812 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: we first started, and it was also because we dated 813 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 2: for a bit and then COVID hit and we moved 814 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: in and at first we were just going to just 815 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: stay with each other during COVID. It'll be over in 816 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. It wasn't over in a couple 817 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: of weeks, right, Yeah, And so we would just watch movies. 818 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: And so we did the thing where we watched each 819 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: other's favorite movies. And I had her watch Man on 820 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 2: the Moon, which is about Andy Kaufman. Jim Carrey plays 821 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 2: Andy Coffman. He's like my favorite performer ever. 822 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: I think I've seen that. 823 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, and she had me watch Oklahoma. 824 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 825 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know some of those songs were from Oklahoma, 826 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 2: for you know, oh what a Beautiful Morning. Oh. I 827 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 2: had no idea that was from Oklahoma. Yeah. But also 828 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 2: there's so many references like in pop culture that come 829 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 2: from real that I never realized. I just knew them 830 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 2: as they were. And I thought it was good. The 831 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: dream scene. They should cut that. 832 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: Aesthetically. Aesthetically, it could definitely be sped up. 833 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 2: I agree, way too long. Always not a big dream 834 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 2: scene guy, anyway, because I thought it waste of time. 835 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: I don't even know your dreams. I don't even want 836 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 2: to know my friend's dreams, much less people in a movie. 837 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 2: I thought it's symbolism, yeah, yeah, a little too much, 838 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 2: a little too heavy on the symbol. Other than that, 839 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, because you don't 840 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 2: like black and white stuff. 841 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's not black and white. 842 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: I'm colorblind, But is it not black and white? No, 843 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm not that color like Wizard of Oz. Maybe maybe 844 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: you are color blind, it's not the dream sequence is 845 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 2: black and white. 846 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: No, it's definitely not it like goes. Are you sure 847 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: there's a glimpse of it that might be black and white? 848 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 2: I know for a fact part of that thing is 849 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: black and white. And I say, for a fact, but 850 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: I am also extremely colorblind, but not so color blind. 851 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 2: I can't see those colors. 852 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: It's not there's no I've watched it one million times, Bob, 853 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: I know you're right. 854 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: I mean that's my wife, she says, maybe she just 855 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 2: gave me a bad version. Yeah, I'm not seeing any 856 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: black and not even. 857 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: The dream the most colorful like scene in the whole thing. 858 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: Anyway, I still think it's supid, the dream sequence. I 859 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: did like the movie. And one of our friends, like 860 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 2: one of my closest friends is the singer Bret Eldridge, 861 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 2: and he was in Oklahoma when he was in high school, 862 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: and he performs that at my wife's birthday every year. 863 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 3: Wait. 864 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and there's a whole beginning part of it. 865 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a bride. Golden hayes on the meadow. 866 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 2: That's it. There's a bright golden hay That's awesome. Yeah yeah, 867 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: And so he does that every year at our birthday. 868 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: And give me any song. 869 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the second most famous song in that movie? 870 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: I would say, Oh, Oklahoma where the wind comes up 871 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: and down the plane? 872 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you know that? At the end, always tell 873 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: my wife they all moved to Arkansas to get a 874 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: better life. 875 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: That is so not true. 876 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: Where do you think they're moving at the end, you 877 00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 2: tell me, because it's not so. 878 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: They're moving to Claremore or Kansas City. They want to 879 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: go to Kansas City. I went to Kansas City on Friday. 880 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: They're like, they're like going up to the big city. 881 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: I think it's Arkansas. 882 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: Well, agree to disagree. 883 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 2: Did you ever go to Arkansas or anything for nothing? 884 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 2: The mall, for its met or anything. No. 885 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: And I've been begged to tour there, and I just 886 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: I've never. I don't think I've ever played a show 887 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: in Arkansas. Maybe once, maybe not. Fan I don't think 888 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: I have. I have, I don't know. I don't know 889 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: where I've been. 890 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: You weren't an Oklaholma. You weren't an alcohol my top, 891 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 2: I got top. 892 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: He is top, he's a top. I can tell. 893 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm here, I'm here, I'm on my feet right now. Uh. 894 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: Did I just fluster Bobby Bones? 895 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: No, there's there's about four four jokes and I decided 896 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 2: to pull all four of them back and just living. 897 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, just living it. 898 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: So when are you releasing new Caitlin Butt's music. 899 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: I have written now four songs for the next album, 900 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: and the goal is and labels like, uh, now would 901 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: be a great time if you have the songs and 902 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: obviously that that's what labels want and people fands want. 903 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: Have you recorded which just written now? 904 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: No, I've Yeah, they're just like in my brain. At 905 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: this point, I need to go right that's my whole assignment. 906 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: But as soon as possible, as soon as I can. 907 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the 908 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 4: Bobby Cast. 909 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: Your husband's also in a band? 910 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. So. 911 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: How's that going? 912 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: It's going good? 913 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 914 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 915 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 2: Which part, the husband of the band part? 916 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: All of it? Yeah, I mean they do really well. 917 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 2: They do. Do you want to talk about that? I 918 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 2: don't want to make it about it. Of course, your 919 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 2: husband is Yeah. 920 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: He's a Cludic Cordero flatline Cavalry. 921 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 2: And they're doing pretty good. 922 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 923 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 2: Do you guys get to see each other? 924 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: We do sometimes. 925 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: Is it like a Tuesday Wednesday? Those are the days 926 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: you see it. 927 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: It's like Sunday through Wednesday sometimes. But I mean sometimes 928 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm off and he is not off, or vice versa. 929 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: Or we'll meet each other, like we've had airport dates 930 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: before where he's going out of Austin and I'm coming 931 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: in and I've got to go somewhere else, and we 932 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: just have always made it work that way. It's definitely 933 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: not easy and it's definitely not fun sometimes. 934 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: How long he has been married. 935 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: Five years but together ten? 936 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 2: Oh wow, you weregather five years before we got married. Yeah, 937 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: that's quite the long. Yeah, what's up, buddy? I know, Cooper, 938 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 2: get off the pot, That's what I say. 939 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I I think it was. I don't know 940 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: it really was. That is a long, you know, time 941 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: to date. I mean, but the thing is, like I 942 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: look back in our dating and he was already sending 943 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: me rings like to that he wanted to buy, like 944 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: six months into it, and so it was never like 945 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: a I don't know, it just didn't feel like we were. 946 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: We were in different areas of our I mean, he 947 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: lived in Lubbock at the time. I lived in Ardmore, Oakama. 948 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 1: And then we moved together. No, I live. I moved 949 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: here in twenty nine I started so I was traveling 950 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: here probably starting in twenty sixteen when we started dating. 951 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: I'd come here once every month or every couple of months, 952 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: and we were just both kind of doing our own thing. 953 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: And then in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, I moved here. 954 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: I left. We had moved in together into fort Worth, 955 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: and then I was like, you tour, I have a 956 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: publishing deal in Nashville. I'm going to go rent, go 957 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: get a couple of roommates and live in Nashville. You 958 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: can stay in fort Worth. And then COVID happened, and 959 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: then we both moved into my mother's house in Ardmore, Oklahoma, 960 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: and then moved back here in twenty twenty one and 961 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: bought a house. 962 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: How do you like it here? 963 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: I love it. Like I'm trying to convince everyone that 964 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: I know to move here. My mom's going to retire 965 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: at the end of this year and come moving with us. 966 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 2: How about we keep them out? 967 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: But there's so many cool Oky's that I'm maybe okay, 968 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: here's the thing we need less like maybe West Coast 969 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 1: and more like actual like Okies. 970 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: Maybe fair enough. Favorite Oklahoma band ever. 971 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: Band ever turn Pitriy Badoers, you. 972 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: Know with those guys. They came and played my rhyme 973 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: and show too, and it was super fun. My wife 974 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 2: is a massive fan of them because she's from right 975 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 2: near Talaquah, which is where they're all from. And they 976 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 2: were so surprised. The even knew how to say that 977 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: town's name. And I'm like, say it. We go to 978 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 2: the pizza place there. I think Carrie used to work 979 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 2: at the pizza place. 980 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: And will you ever float there? 981 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't float. I don't like to have 982 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 2: my I never liked to have my shirt off. I 983 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,439 Speaker 2: don't float now. I don't float. 984 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm Bobby Bones and I don't float. 985 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 2: Thank you all to this message paid for by Bobby Bones. 986 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 2: Should I'm not a big floater. It's not a big 987 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 2: water guy. 988 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: You got the perfect hat to float right now. 989 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 2: I just got the hat from Landman, though, so if 990 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 2: I would have had it previously, maybe I don't like 991 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 2: to get wet, just generally. 992 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: Bobby Bones doesn't like to get wet. 993 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 2: Unless they're like soap. I don't really see the need 994 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: to get wet. 995 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can float to be wet. 996 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: You can just be in a tube that doesn't that floats. 997 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: And drink In't it? 998 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 2: Okay? Two things. One, I've never had drink of alcohol. 999 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: You are pale, so you guys. Yeah. 1000 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 2: I was in the middle of like telling you why 1001 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: you took a shot. 1002 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: So I am a redhead. I am more pale than. 1003 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 2: You, but you have red hair, yeah, which would make sense. 1004 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't even like the beach. 1005 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: Something's wrong with you. 1006 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 2: I we didn't have a beach in Arkansas, and we 1007 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: never went on vacation. 1008 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 1: Would Why would anyone from Oklahoma be like, I'm gonna 1009 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: go where there's not a beach. We have plenty of 1010 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: beaches in Oklahoma. 1011 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: No, those aren't beaches. 1012 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: There's such beaches. 1013 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 2: Those are called creeks. Lake you falla, Yeah, I've been. 1014 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 2: We stayed at Christmas on likeke you falla really. Yeah, 1015 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: we went and got a house and all because all 1016 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 2: of our famis fm Oklahoma, so we went and stayed. 1017 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 2: I'm very much you're kind of oky yeah, a little bit. 1018 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 2: And my wife's a massive Oklahoma football fan, and I'm 1019 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 2: obviously a massive Arkansas fan, and you guys are way 1020 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 2: better than us, and it's so annoying. 1021 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. Did she like, oh you're a OSU? 1022 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: Oh you okay? Okay ho, Yeah, that's why she likes this. 1023 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1024 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's very Oklahoma. And we did buy a 1025 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 2: house in Arkansas though, yeah, which was right on the line. Okay, 1026 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 2: so turn by, she got me into that. I was 1027 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 2: way late. So I'm not cool by any means when 1028 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: it comes to that. But I'm a big fan now. 1029 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: I just don't say that a lot because I'm not 1030 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: an og big fan and I feel like people will 1031 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 2: question me. I can't say, well, only started liking them 1032 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 2: two years ago, but even their music from you know, 1033 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: a decade ago, and those guys, when I was talking 1034 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 2: to them, they felt a bit surprised that they had 1035 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 2: kind of popped off doing the same exact thing, like 1036 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: they didn't change. Yeah, no, they just took a. 1037 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: Break, but those boys will not change. 1038 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 2: They came back and they just kept going and it 1039 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: was like, how are we here? We haven't done anything different, 1040 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden we're getting you know, we're 1041 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: playing these way bigger shows and new parts of America. 1042 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 2: It was super cool. Really love those guys. Give me 1043 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 2: another Oklahoma artist. 1044 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,439 Speaker 1: Man, I love so man. 1045 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 2: There's so many Yeah, I know read it. 1046 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: I literally I mean Reba. 1047 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 2: I don't go to your phone. This is from heart 1048 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 2: only God, because I can do. I'll do Arkansas, John Can. 1049 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: I tell you like artists that are like kind of 1050 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: that are new, that like. 1051 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 2: You didn't mind. There are no rules not to lose 1052 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 2: the game. I'm not taking your skylarsh of. 1053 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: I love a girl named Ken Pomeroy. She's one of 1054 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,959 Speaker 1: my good friends and I took her on tour last 1055 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: year and she's really really talented and she's very folky 1056 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: and mayer Conna, but she her voice is like unmatched 1057 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: and she's so good. I love Parker millsap. I love 1058 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: John Morland, I love Oh my God, I love. 1059 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 2: Kars There is all Oklahoma people, Yeah. 1060 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: These are all. I love Camille Hart, I love Kirsten. 1061 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 2: Why he was name of cousins now. 1062 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: I feel like cousins. I love Samantha Cranes music. I 1063 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 1: love Oh my God. I love Wink Bertram's music. 1064 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 2: I love. 1065 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, John Calvin. There's just so many talented 1066 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: people there that like live and exists there, and there's 1067 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: so much talent in Oklahoma, and I was kind of 1068 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: like the person that was put there, or like even 1069 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: like Cody Canada. Damn, Cody Canada. I love Cody Canada. 1070 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 2: Which not the first CCR? 1071 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1072 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: The second? 1073 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the second one. 1074 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 2: Do you know the first? 1075 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: I I've got to say, I. 1076 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,720 Speaker 2: Do you know the first CCR? 1077 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: I love Cody? 1078 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 2: Do you know the first CCR? 1079 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what's the for you choose me or 1080 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: for accuse me? 1081 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: Take your loose? Yeah? Why are you singing that? Because 1082 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: that's CCR see right behind you, John Fogerty, it's my friends. 1083 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: Damn. 1084 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for being impressed. 1085 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: That's cool. 1086 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his real signature. 1087 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: He's got some big lips. 1088 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 2: He's older now. I think his lips of shrank good 1089 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 2: for him. 1090 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of girls would kill for those lips. 1091 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 2: He can still go. He's like eighty two? Is he eighty? 1092 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: Mike? 1093 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 2: He can still sing like crazy. I was worried because 1094 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 2: anybody eighty, I feel like I'm gonna break. It's like 1095 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 2: a baby an eighty year old or a baby. I 1096 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 2: feel like I'm gonna break on and he came in 1097 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: and definitely, but man, he has a lot of energy. 1098 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 2: Yeah and still really great singer. Well, I'm glad you 1099 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 2: came over and God, we. 1100 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: Got to do this to thank you for asking me. 1101 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 2: Are you are you happy? 1102 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: It's most days, every twenty eight days though, Just pray 1103 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: for me same. 1104 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 2: I've been doing sympathy paints. I tell my wife I 1105 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 2: get her sympathy pains. 1106 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,399 Speaker 1: She's pregnant, and you're like and she's like, plea over. 1107 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna piss me off because I'll go, Oh, 1108 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 2: I don't feel very good. My back hurts. She once 1109 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 2: she doesn't want to hear that she's pregnant. 1110 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, can I tell you a tip that I saw 1111 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: on TikTok to come behind? 1112 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: I didn't say yes, I didn't say you did it. 1113 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 2: Now I'm just looking. I'm deciding if I want to 1114 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: hear it not hold on. You said I said nothing 1115 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 2: my wife is pregnant, But then you said can I 1116 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 2: tell you a tip? And I did not raise it. 1117 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: Yes, Well I don't care, so come up behind her. 1118 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: How pregnant is she? 1119 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 2: Very? 1120 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: Okay? So come up behind her and like, lift the belly. 1121 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 2: I'm already elbowed in the face. 1122 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: No, no, it's gonna relieve the weight of it. So 1123 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: you pull up her belly and just give her the relief. 1124 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 2: If I surprise her by grabbing her belly from the back, 1125 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,240 Speaker 2: she's going to elbow me in the face. 1126 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: You're her husband. 1127 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 2: You should which is why she'll elbow me in the face. 1128 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: You should just let her and then then she'll ease 1129 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: into it. Tell her that I told you to do 1130 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: it or TikTok tip. 1131 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,839 Speaker 2: A TikTok tip from Caitlin, but said I should come 1132 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 2: up behind you when you're not looking and grab your belly, just. 1133 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: Lift it, like to relieve pressure. Do you not touch 1134 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: your wife? 1135 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 2: Less? 1136 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 1: Now, don't to his wife doesn't like to get wet 1137 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,240 Speaker 1: far less. 1138 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very pregnant. Nice, we're gonna have a kid. 1139 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: How exciting? 1140 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,760 Speaker 2: Crazy? Crazy? 1141 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: Do you know if it's a boy or girl? 1142 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 2: We don't know yet. 1143 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you waiting? 1144 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 4: Uh? 1145 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 2: Actually you want to know the truth. Yeah, we do know. 1146 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 2: I just say that because my wife will say because 1147 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: she has no problem with I don't mind awkward. I 1148 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 2: like awkward, but I don't want to have to make 1149 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: the conversation continue longer than I want. So people you 1150 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 2: know what it is, and I'll go, nah, we're just 1151 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 2: waiting to find out. 1152 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: And you were about to do that to me. 1153 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: I was, yeah, but I know what it is. But 1154 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: we're just not telling anybody, or we told like a 1155 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 2: select We've told a select few people. And if I 1156 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 2: said this, well, we've only told like ten percent of 1157 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 2: our friends, and those are the friends we like the most. 1158 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 2: And you don't make that ten percent. You shouldn't say 1159 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 2: that right then there's a whole different feeling about the 1160 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 2: whole conversation. So we do know, we're just not telling 1161 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 2: some people. 1162 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: The internet in Netflix, Yeah. 1163 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 2: That's it. 1164 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: I get that. 1165 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's pretty crazy. I didn't have a dad, so, 1166 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 2: like I have weirdness about dar. 1167 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: If there's anyone that is a dad, Me and Bobby 1168 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: are in the market for new dads. 1169 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:46,959 Speaker 2: Okay we are, I'm too old. I'm good you she'd 1170 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,479 Speaker 2: still like a dad for you out there, she'd still 1171 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 2: like a dad. My dad's alive with a boat. Is 1172 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 2: your dad alive? You're really? 1173 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 1: Yeah? He's dead to me? 1174 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 2: No, I know, I know. That's why but he has 1175 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 2: a lot of life because my real dad is alive. 1176 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1177 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 2: I don't call him my dad, but he's dead to 1178 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 2: me too. 1179 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. In the market, if anyone has. 1180 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 2: A boat, I'll just take it. Did you ever have 1181 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 2: a stepdad? 1182 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: No? 1183 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 2: I had a stepdad for a while. He was awesome. 1184 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,479 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, that's sweet. 1185 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 2: I had a papa. He was felt like, is that 1186 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 2: a grandpa? 1187 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1188 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 2: Is that your biological grandpa? 1189 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:19,879 Speaker 4: Well? 1190 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: No, so it was my he would be so pretty. 1191 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: My mom's dad passed when she was twenty one, and 1192 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: then my papa and grandma, their spouses were both simultaneously 1193 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: passing away in the hospital at the same time, and 1194 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: they became close. Wow, and then got married afterwards. 1195 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 2: Wow. 1196 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: And so that was my papa that I you know, 1197 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:43,879 Speaker 1: I didn't never knew anything else. 1198 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 2: A couple final questions. Do you consider Oklahoma the South? 1199 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: I do. I know a lot of people don't. 1200 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,760 Speaker 2: But if you go there, my wife doesn't. 1201 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, you got to go to southern 1202 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: Oklahoma maybe to see some south, but it is south 1203 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,879 Speaker 1: to me. It's wild. 1204 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 2: There's definitely parts where it feels like Arkansas, but also 1205 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 2: there's such a strong Native American presence there. 1206 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1207 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 2: And she's also like, we weren't the Confederacy, like we 1208 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 2: didn't lose the war. 1209 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, but I guess but I wouldn't determine 1210 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: the South as like the Confederacy. I would just be 1211 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 1: like Southern people. 1212 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 2: But either though, because I'll try any way to lump 1213 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 2: her in with us. 1214 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's how. But I feel like as an 1215 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: ident like that is something that Oklahoma like struggles with, 1216 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: is like the identity of what it is. 1217 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 2: And but it's like every Midwest. 1218 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: No, it's every it's everything. 1219 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 2: Not Southern. It's not really in the southern part of America. 1220 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 2: That handle though that you guys have some bad stuff 1221 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 2: used to happen there. Yeah, the Panhandle. 1222 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: Everywhere there was bad stuff happens everywhere. 1223 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 2: No, but this was like there were no rules, no laws. Yeah, 1224 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 2: it was like international waters. You just go to the 1225 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 2: Panhandle and do whatever you want, get wet, be a top. 1226 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,760 Speaker 2: There were no rules. 1227 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: There are no rules. Did you know that Oklahoma is 1228 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: the most like diverse like terrain in like the states. 1229 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: We have a desert, we have lakes, we have mountains. Yeah, 1230 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: and there's like a it's a place called the Little Sahara. 1231 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: We've got so many different We've got lakes, mountains. 1232 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 2: You listed to rivers, like sand dunes. 1233 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, does Texas have like actual sand dunes? 1234 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1235 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: I don't think. 1236 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 3: So let's take a quick pause for a message from 1237 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 3: our sponsor. 1238 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 2: And we're back on the Bobby Cast. Do you like Texas? 1239 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine, right, it's great, It's huge. Yeah, I 1240 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: love Texas. I like I like touring there because they 1241 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: are the most enthusiastic, like Lee country people ever. 1242 00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 2: They love. 1243 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: They have an idea that's the they you know a 1244 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: Texan because they'll let you know that identity. 1245 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 2: They have beer named after them, they do, they have 1246 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 2: music named after them. 1247 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: I feel like Oklahoma gets a little jealous of that. 1248 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: But because we're just not we're not Midwest, I don't. 1249 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: We don't make tater Talk cast rolls, but we make 1250 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 1: cast roles. 1251 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 2: But there's lots of other chicken. 1252 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: Charlie's chicken. Oh my god, don't get me seople dar. 1253 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 2: I spend a lot of time in Oklahoma, and they're like, 1254 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 2: what's your favorite part Charlie's Chicken? That is it? 1255 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: If you have you sparked a whole childhood memory. Well, 1256 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: I can taste that. 1257 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 2: There aren't other Charlie's chickens. There's none here, none but 1258 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 2: Charlie's Chicken A plus and Oklahoma. Yeah, let me go 1259 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: two more questions. When you were in junior high would 1260 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 2: you want to be when you grew up? 1261 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 1: I had different careers that I wanted to be. I 1262 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: always love performing. It was truly the only thing that 1263 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 1: I'm like so naturally just good at and love doing, 1264 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: like something that is cathartic in me. I wanted to 1265 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: be a party planner because that seemed fun. I wanted 1266 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: to be an designer. I like to decorate my spaces. 1267 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to go to college for that, 1268 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: but I got a really small scholarship to a music 1269 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 1: school in Oklahoma City, acm at UCO that kind of 1270 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,399 Speaker 1: do what to sing to sing? Yeah, vocal performance, that's cool. Yeah, 1271 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 1: I got my associate's degree. It was like the School 1272 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: of Rock, but I was like the only country person 1273 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 1: doing anything country there because the Flaming Lips manager was 1274 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: the CEO is the CEO of the school there, and 1275 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 1: so so rock and roll themed, and but I was 1276 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: like the country girl there from Tulsa. 1277 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 2: Did you think you would do country music? Was that 1278 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 2: ever a part of your Not? 1279 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: Not when I was little, but fifteen, like, I wanted 1280 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: to play guitar and sing and I love I knew 1281 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: I loved to do that. But the great thing about 1282 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: what I do now is I kind of do a 1283 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: lot of those things. Like I party plan, I like 1284 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: create events that and curate them, and I interior decorate 1285 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: for like my set and stuff like that. I just 1286 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: get to be creative. I knew I wanted to be creative. 1287 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to be in an environment that 1288 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: was fun. And this is like kind of all of 1289 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 1: those things into into one. 1290 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 2: Can you draw? 1291 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: Hell No, I can't. 1292 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 2: Draw, really I can. 1293 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,880 Speaker 1: I I can make lots of clawses on my iPad 1294 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: and tell graphic designers what to do. I have lots 1295 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 1: of vision, but I know I can't. Can I paint, 1296 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean I can, It's not it's not good. I 1297 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,280 Speaker 1: can do an I could do a sky colors. 1298 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 2: A sky, Yeah, I just do blue. I could do that, 1299 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 2: do clouds on it. 1300 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: I could my one of my things I want to 1301 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: do during the spread. 1302 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 2: By doing a sky. That's the one thing we know. 1303 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I can't. That's all. That's the extent 1304 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 1: of it. I could do. I really want to do 1305 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 1: like the Bob Ross thing where you like eat an 1306 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: edible and then you watch Bob Ross and try to 1307 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: do his like his painting. 1308 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 2: Is that called the Bob Ross thing? I thought you 1309 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 2: were going to say the Bob Ross thing paint. I 1310 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 2: didn't know it was get high and watch him then 1311 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 2: try to paint that. 1312 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,879 Speaker 1: That's my Bob Ross thing. I don't know if that's 1313 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,919 Speaker 1: a universal thing, but it's my thing that I want 1314 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: to do. I want to eat some edibles. 1315 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 2: I feel like you could do that anytime. 1316 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, some Howdy Delta nine ones that are legal in Tennessee. 1317 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,399 Speaker 1: And have you heard of Howdy? By the way, how 1318 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 1: doy do you do edibles? Ad Blaze? No, you can't 1319 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: say no, you're a father, he's a father. 1320 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 2: No. No, No, I've done nothing. I've not I've never had 1321 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 2: a drink of alcohol. I've never had a drug. I've 1322 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 2: never done any I'm as straight edge as you can be. 1323 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I feel pretty straight edged. Like I've 1324 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: never been offered like hard drugs before in my life. 1325 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 2: And I don't know what I want to do stuff. 1326 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, well I'm not anti the stuff I 1327 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 2: just have. 1328 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 1: I've never Bones who wants to do stuff. 1329 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 2: I want to do. I have so many graphics from 1330 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 2: this we can just put up Bobby Bones doesn't want 1331 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 2: to be wet. 1332 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 1333 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've never The only time I've ever been 1334 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 2: high and is one of the greatest moments in my 1335 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 2: life in the dentist chair. 1336 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: I guess it was on the opry they all clapped 1337 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: at your joke and you're. 1338 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 2: Like, yep, that is one. That's heroin. Yeah, I guess 1339 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 2: messed up in the dinnist Did you love it? I 1340 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 2: love for the first time you're laughing, But I really 1341 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 2: got so high off the laughing gas. 1342 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: That you saw Jesus Like Noah, Cyrus says, I was floating. 1343 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 2: This is not a joke. I was floating. Everything around 1344 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 2: me was black except for the occasional star, and I 1345 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 2: remember thinking to myself, WHOA life is all about relationships? 1346 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 2: And I had this moment of clarity. I was so fulfilled. 1347 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 2: I was so happy. I couldn't fill my lips. 1348 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: That's the whole point. And like an audience milkshake afterwards, 1349 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: I don't. 1350 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 2: I don't remember. I think my wife had to drive 1351 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 2: me home because it was it was obviously an intense surgery, 1352 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 2: intense for you. But I remember coming to and being disappointed. 1353 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 2: I was coming to oh Man, they were playing music 1354 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 2: on the I felt that in a little speaker beside 1355 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 2: the dental chair, and the music start. I started to 1356 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 2: hear the music through space, and I slowly started crackling 1357 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 2: away from my space, and the music kept getting I 1358 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 2: could tell what the song was. 1359 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 3: It was. 1360 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 2: I think it was Lifehouse Wow. And then I came 1361 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 2: out of it. It was the greatest. 1362 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: So your experience with dental uh juice is my experience 1363 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: with like mushrooms. 1364 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 2: Or weed, and it's your Thursday night. 1365 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: No, I I really I I don't do it very 1366 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 1: often because if I do it too often, it definitely 1367 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: like kind of makes me in a lower head space. 1368 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't drink very often. I I have 1369 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: never done anything hard in that way. 1370 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 2: I'd love to do hard drugs. 1371 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I know some people that I would do 1372 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: it too. 1373 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 2: I would just I'd be the best at I try 1374 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 2: to win. 1375 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: Do you feel offended that you tried to win? 1376 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 2: Try to win? Yeah, try to be the best. I 1377 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 2: would try to. 1378 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: That's scary, But like, do you ever feel if you 1379 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 1: haven't been offered them? Do you feel like a little 1380 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: bit offended? Because I feel a little offended. I'm like, 1381 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: what is it about me? Is it a good thing 1382 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: that I haven't been offered hard drugs before? I've been 1383 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: offered weed a lot so Canada jar the other day 1384 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: at the merch table. I'm like Jesus Christ. So now 1385 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: we're in California, but put this down. 1386 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 2: In your mind. The cooler you are, the heart of 1387 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,479 Speaker 2: the drugs you get offered. 1388 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 1: I maybe I don't know. I'm sure. I think it's 1389 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 1: a vibe that I put off. 1390 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 2: I think that maybe I'm your vibe to me would 1391 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 2: be a little whiskey, little weed. 1392 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Well am I or like cocktail? I'm like a gin person. 1393 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: But like I maybe they maybe I am like too 1394 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: hyper and they're like, they don't she doesn't need any 1395 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: more uppers. Yeah, so we need her down horizontal preferably 1396 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: and shut up. 1397 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 2: And then now like people talk about heroin, though it 1398 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 2: seems I could be the greatest. 1399 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard that black tar heroin is the greatest, 1400 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 1: or meth, you know, it's really great, you know, and 1401 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 1: then it's really really not Caitlin but's meth is the greatest, 1402 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 1: but really really not. 1403 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'm a fan, I really am. I'm a fan. 1404 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:05,919 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 1405 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 2: I think you're super talented. I think more so than talented, 1406 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 2: I think you work extremely hard. I think that's very 1407 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 2: evident by how long you've been doing what you're doing. 1408 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 2: And it's really cool to watch it grow now. 1409 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. 1410 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 2: So I'm a genuine fan. I hope you know that. 1411 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm not just no. 1412 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: I feel that and I really really do appreciate it. 1413 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many years it's My mom 1414 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: and I after our first interview and I'm like calling 1415 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 1: her all the way home and stuff. She's like, isn't 1416 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 1: it so crazy that someone that we've watched for so 1417 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: long and like I knew that, they're like liking you 1418 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 1: and seeking you out. And it's kind of across the 1419 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 1: board with a lot of people who I'm working with 1420 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: now and who I call friends, like Elizabeth Cook or 1421 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: Angelina Pressley or even Miranda Lambert texted me the other day, 1422 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: found my number through John Randall and like sought me out, 1423 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 1: and it's like all these people that I've watched and 1424 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 1: looked up to for a long time, like yourself, and 1425 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 1: just been, you know, hoping that one day, like our 1426 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 1: past cross in a natural, organic way where I'm not 1427 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: like a fan or like trying to get in your seat, Like, 1428 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: it's so cool that you've come across this in a 1429 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 1: really cool way in an. 1430 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 2: Marketing you love it. You've never been like me, Bobby Bones. 1431 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: But it just feels so good. It feels so good 1432 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: to be wanted. And thank you for like blasting my 1433 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: music everywhere. I really like it makes a difference and 1434 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 1: I can see an actual spike every time that you 1435 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: say anything. So thank you. 1436 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 2: Well, whenever you have the new stuff, let me know. 1437 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 1438 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 1: I'll like send you a work tape from my phone. 1439 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1440 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 2: I know that's a nice thing to say, but I 1441 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 2: would never listen to it. Why because then I wouldn't 1442 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 2: think that our version of friendship that we have is real, 1443 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,240 Speaker 2: because as soon as somebody real, because you would be 1444 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 2: sending it. This is my mind. This is the last 1445 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,479 Speaker 2: thing I'm gonna say. Okay, I never listened to music 1446 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 2: from and this is my last question from anybody ahead 1447 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,640 Speaker 2: of time, because I'm really scared that people only want 1448 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 2: to be my friend because I can do things for them. 1449 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that and what a what an awful feeling that is. 1450 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 1: And I hate that I feel that way sometimes and 1451 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm not even in any kind of like power position, 1452 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: but like I've felt that way, even being like Kleto's wife. 1453 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,919 Speaker 1: Sometimes it just feels you really start to wonder things 1454 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 1: like that, and I think it sucks, Like I've I've 1455 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: felt this weird thing about like even paying like my 1456 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 1: friends to work with me, and it's such a weird 1457 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: dynamic and you wonder like are they being nice to 1458 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: me because I pay them or you know, it's there's 1459 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 1: such there's so many weird dynamics. 1460 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 2: I said, it's all my friends work for me, now 1461 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 2: I know, but weird. 1462 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Weird feeling. It is a weird feeling as a as 1463 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,280 Speaker 1: a person doing it, and you just hope that the 1464 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 1: dynamic doesn't get weird or anything like that. I don't know, 1465 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: but I I understand, surely. But yeah, I just know 1466 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: that it's all it's all authentic and. 1467 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for coming. Yeah, and don't call me Sharley, 1468 01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 2: all right, there she is Caitlin Bites 1469 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 3: Everybody, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.