1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: When you can get to this level, we can make 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: sure we knock you from a twenty million dollar man 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: to putting in the news that people won't hire you 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,159 Speaker 1: know more, and your career is done. Yeah, so you're 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: saying that you said it was. What I'm saying that 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: everything that happens in a business that's based off of 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: pretends that seems like a setup is And that is 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: his take on the slap. We'll be back in just 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: a few seconds. Every champion and carry champion is to 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: be a champion of champion and carry champion and carry 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: champion the champion and carry champion and carry champion. Fraid 12 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: it's the sports and entertainment can make it work in 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: the world. Were vulnerable considered, We come and remove the 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: veil from entertainment elite. It's a different tween what's real 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: and with the public seas. So here's your favorite celebrities 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. It's refreshing up then the whole story 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: specific life all too rennivents to shape the person that 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: you here. We gotta champion, they carry champion. They got 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: you did it. It's the greatest sports and entertaining connected 20 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: with very champion. They carry champion is to be a 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: champion of champion. They carry champion and they yo champion, 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: they carry champion, they carry champion fraid of sports and 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: then the taming cannecked warm. Hey, everybody, welcome to another addition, 24 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: Nick Um. So this week I've been been having all 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: these different conversations about um, what is our responsibility as 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: black folks, and what is our responsibility as a culture 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: as a country, what's our responsibility as a human being? Right, 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: all of the heavy conversations, I've been happy. And oftentimes 29 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: when I have these heavy conversations, I find comedy helps me. 30 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Meaning I listened to certain comedians, I listened to certain 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: comedy specials. I look for laughs in the sadness. I 32 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: look for laughs to make sense of what's going on 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: in our our world. And if you follow this podcast, 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: you know I talked about this often. So the other night, 35 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: Cat Williams World War Three, his Netflix special is out, 36 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: and I'm watching it and I'm laughing because Cat Williams 37 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: humor much like UM a couple of other comedians that 38 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: I enjoy. It's very cerebral. It makes you think, you're like, wait, 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Explain that to me? Um? And 40 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: there were a lot of funny. There are a lot 41 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: of a lot of funny moments. It was a good special, 42 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: It really was. But then I get a call on 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: him and they're like, hey, Cat is doing press. I'm like, great, 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: cann he come on the podcast and he is. That 45 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: is our guest. We have Cat Williams Specials drops at midnight, 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: I believe midnight going into Thursday. He's on the podcast 47 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Thursday the day and we're giving it to you right now, 48 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: and he didn't hope back like it is special. We 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: talked about what he does for a living, how he 50 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: how he gathers his content, the process of doing what 51 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: he does, and how he's really truly a boss in 52 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: this business. It's interesting because everyone's claiming to have money 53 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: and be this and be that, but he's doing it. 54 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: He owns everything. His relationships with certain people, i e. Prince. 55 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: We talked about that and how influential he was in 56 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: Prince's life. He told me about his relationship with Steph 57 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Curry and the NBA and what he shared with stuff 58 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: about just shooting from the logo like just let it 59 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: loose because they ain't gonna set up the defense. They're 60 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: not gonna be ready. He is surprising, smart, intelligent, probably 61 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: think yes, most definitely a deep thinker. Uh. And oftentimes 62 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: you'll hear I'll say, explain that, what do you mean? 63 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Because it's truly so um ahead of what I'm thinking. 64 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: I want to make sure we're on the same wavelength. 65 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: And then we get into Will Smith in the slap 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: with Chris Rock, and what he says about Chris Rock 67 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: was a little jarring to me, true but jarring. So 68 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: pay attention to that, like literally, pay attention to that. 69 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: He talks about what a hero Jada Pinkett Smith is. 70 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: I repeat that woman deserves to be respected. I'm tired 71 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: of people slandering her, saying she did Will wrong, and 72 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: what she did was Will's she may will slap that 73 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: man No, man on on, no, no, you don't understand 74 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: even how the game works, that's not how she moved 75 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: and that's not what she did. I need you all 76 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: to pay attention to that. Uh. And last, but not least, 77 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: and there's still more. Catt Williams is a solid human. 78 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm not an artist, nor am I comedian in that respect. 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm an artist in my own way, but I think 80 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: people who think differently and who have different thoughts and 81 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: who are bold and speaking their truth are often are 82 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: often shunned by a commune. You give people who want 83 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: the status quo to remain because you don't want to 84 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: upset the apple cart. You want to keep it. Don't 85 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: be out here, be a free thinker, y'all here thinking 86 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: for free y'aut here coming up, what ideas, especially for 87 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: you black stand down. Please follow the system that says 88 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: y'all don't matter, and then we'll pick a few of 89 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: the automatter and be happy with the few that we 90 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: allow into the world to matter. So his Netflix special 91 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: up ready, rolling right now. Watch it. Either watch it 92 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: before you listen to the podcast or after you listen 93 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: to the podcast. But when you watch it, this podcast 94 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: will then click for you. Cat Williams is naked and 95 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: um so, so the podcast is what i't even explaining 96 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: what the podcast is, but explaining what it is. I 97 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: just interview people that I'm a huge fan of and 98 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: I think that have amazing things going on in your life. 99 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: And I've been a fan of yours for a very 100 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: long time. Um So, thank you for doing this. I 101 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: do appreciate it, I really do. I only accept interviews 102 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: by people that I respect, and I am a fan 103 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: of their work and the fact of how they ask 104 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: people questions. I don't get paid for any of it, 105 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: and I don't have anybody that's in charge of me 106 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: doing things to sell products. So I have conversations with 107 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: those who I am honored to have a conversation with. 108 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: And there's only two two of the greatest things from Pasadena, 109 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Hamblea Jones, and I receive it. I receive it. Thank 110 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: you well now that we know we're mutual fans. I 111 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: watched the special last night and then I woke up 112 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: this morning and I saw you were trending, and I'm 113 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: sure you knew all that would happen. The first thing 114 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: that I must ask you is pretty pretty obvious, but 115 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: why did you call it w W three? I write 116 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: these hour long sets an hour, I mean a year 117 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: before they're going to be filmed. So the risk on 118 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: my side of things is I have to write a 119 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: conversation and then have this conversation still be true, valid, current, 120 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: and relevant nine and a half months after I originally 121 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: write it. Um That means I have to know that 122 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: World War three is coming in order to trademark the 123 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: name and to write a special called that and have 124 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: in mind to have these conversations. Um. When you do 125 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: things like that, there's a chance that you're gonna be 126 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: successful and a chance that it won't connect. There's a 127 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: lot of different variables at play um, but UM. The 128 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: titles of the specials are based upon a feeling attached 129 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: to them. So in pimp chronicles, there aren't any pimp jokes, 130 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: or any Lady of the Evening jokes, or any jokes 131 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: about prostitution. It's just you are chronicling something. So World 132 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: War three is because that was the time that it 133 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: was going to happen. It was destined to happen. It 134 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: says it in everybody's religious books. It um says it 135 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: everywhere that it could say it. And time is circular, 136 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: so we can read what happened and what led up 137 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: to World War One enough to know that between World 138 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: War One and World War Two, we know exactly what 139 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: environments and settings have to be involved in the world 140 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: for one of these things to kick off. And that's 141 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: just where we are. Comedically, it means it's um cross 142 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: road period um. And personally for all of us with 143 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: COVID and the pandemic, it meant that the world was 144 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: going through some things right now that we couldn't really 145 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: look through history and see something like this happening. So 146 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: anytime something new is coming, this as a critical part 147 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: of evolution, and you have to document those commediately. I 148 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: do those with comedy specials, and that's to up one. 149 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: It is congratulations, by the way I think it is. 150 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: I read. You can correct me if I'm wrong. It's 151 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: the second one for Netflix. It's your twelfth one. But 152 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: the second one for Netflix. Is that accurate? Okay? So 153 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: how it works is for the first ten specials, I 154 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: funded the specials, wrote the specials, paid for the specials 155 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: to be shot and directed and produced and edited, and 156 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: I own all of them. Um. This was the first 157 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: time that I had to be UM partnered with Netflix 158 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: and the producers that they used, and I had to 159 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: be collaborative UM to put out a collaborative effort. It 160 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: was the second time that we did that. Yes, how 161 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: does it? What's the different process? I would think that 162 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: you would have more freedom creatively when you don't have 163 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: to partner. How was that working relationship? I'm curious after 164 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: everything that happened with Dave Chappelle, were they and I 165 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: know you filmed it a year before, but I'm curious 166 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: about their freedom and and letting you have all the 167 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: license you want to say and do. Um. Okay, it's 168 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: a weird situation because, um, I've never been given creative license. 169 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: I am the one hundred percent owner of all things 170 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: Cat Williams, own all my masters, all my specials. I've 171 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: not been sponsored or nobody put me on tour, put 172 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: me under their wing. I'm not the process of a 173 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: holding deal. Um, none of that. I this is all 174 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: done by us, our team only. So you can't give 175 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: me creative control. I had that when you met me, 176 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: um so eleven times I was able to do a 177 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: special where we were just able to do a special 178 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: good enough for you to put on the network. This 179 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: meant that, in my pursuit of trying to do the 180 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: best special I possibly could, that I took some of 181 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: the responsibility and handed that off to others, trusting how 182 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: they would do it. Um. So, even if I was 183 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: terribly disappointed with how it went or it turned out, 184 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't bad mouth it because we all in our 185 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: life have been in a relationship and we know that 186 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: no relationship is perfect. And um, all days are come 187 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: secum side. In real relationships, when it's good, it's great. 188 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: When it's bad, we're working on it. That's how that 189 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: goes in any relationship. So, um, this is no friend. Um. 190 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: Even people in real relationships right now can think back 191 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: to when they were single and what they might be 192 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: doing with their schedule would be Like if I was 193 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: single and didn't that in the streets in the street, 194 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: in the streets in the streets. My my my job 195 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: is to do things I haven't done before and to 196 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: continuously to be striving to be better. Um. So if 197 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: you were to tell me that my last foray was 198 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: on strikeout, I wouldn't take anything bad from it. I 199 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: understand that I'm the league leader in strikeout. I just 200 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: understand that I'm also the league leader at home run. 201 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: If you understand that those go together, then you will 202 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: understand why I'm where I'm at the twelve times I've 203 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: taken this risk, you know, And it's a risk that 204 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: in our lane as a comedian, you're not guaranteed to 205 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: be funny because you think you are. The customer is 206 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: always right. So that's that's how we do business. And 207 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: it's the I said this before too. Any time I've 208 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: ever interviewed anybody in committee and I've ever talked to 209 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: It's the hardest job. I don't like. I don't like 210 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: when I go and I and you know, if the 211 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: audience is sometimes audience is wat it just is. In 212 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: this case. Last night, I'm watching and I'm laughing because 213 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: you come right off the back about everything's alive. They've 214 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: been lying to us. So I was, as is everyone 215 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: having this conversation. I think you probably were more aware 216 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: than most of us to to talk about it. But 217 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: within the last two years, you cannot deny that we 218 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: don't trust anything. Misinformation is at an all time high. 219 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: And if you are slightly aware of what is happening 220 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: in this country, you know they're lying. You can't believe it. 221 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: So you start off with this, and in my mind, 222 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm like this genius. You wrote that a year ago, 223 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: But that is exactly how we feel. And we have 224 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: seen this country. We've seen these politicians whoever leaders are. 225 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: Everybody's a liar. Everybody's lying. They tell you when you 226 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: did them, the shortest ever accepted that they could lie. 227 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: We thought you had certain jobs meant you had to 228 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: tell the truth. We thought that there were certain ups 229 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: that meant you were a truth teller. We now see 230 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: that there are no jobs like that, and the judge, 231 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: being a politician, being a police officer. There is no 232 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: thing you can be that guarantees your righteousness and you're 233 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: willing to do for others above yourself. And so we're 234 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: all people in this and we we have to have 235 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: these conversations and um, yeah, I that that's the part. Yeah, 236 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: it's the hardest job in the world. I could agree 237 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: with you, but every reality, it is not. Really, it's 238 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: the most blessed job possible. Well, it's being an analyst 239 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: or sports commentator is a dream job for the world. 240 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: This is even better than that. At that you're being 241 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: forced to criticize, because that's part of the process, is 242 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: being critical. This is your ability. You don't have to 243 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: do any of that. You can do it exactly how 244 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: it's best for you and the audience that is being 245 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: uplifted by you. So yeah, it's a it's hard, but 246 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: it is so rewarding and it's such a wonderful relationship 247 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: to be in between comedian and the audience that is 248 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: involved with that. Oh my goodness, Like understand I've literally 249 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: been in this conversation with this group since nine. Every 250 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: time I just come out with, Hey, this is how 251 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: I feel, and this is what's going on, and this 252 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: is how I see. And to have a relationship where 253 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: there's been great communication for twenty years, who could say that, well, you, 254 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: it's impossible. It's impossible to have a great relationship for 255 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: twenty years. That's impossible. People change and don't like you. 256 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, it's impossible, so that you're doing something 257 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: that's rare, right, And I'm saying So however, it goes 258 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: like I can't cry about a misshot because I didn't 259 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: allow myself to get as excited as I would have 260 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: been about the maid shot. Like this is not about 261 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: highs or loads. This is the search for balance at 262 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: all times. So even as an artist, you have to 263 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: understand that our job is just to put out the work, 264 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: correct the content you. It's interesting because I believe comedians 265 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: are the great observers of the world, like you observe 266 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: the world and whatever your lenses. And and I read 267 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: in our research that you have met Prince at a 268 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: young age and you thought he was a higher thinker, 269 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: and that changed the way you you moved. Tell me 270 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: about that when you met him, and what was it 271 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: that had that whatever it is, if it was a 272 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: genese qual, whatever you understood, how he connected with you, 273 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: How did that change for you? How did that change you? 274 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: I've really just had a really blessed existence, like I've 275 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: been blessed to know life UM changing people, Um John 276 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: with his spoon and Heavy D and Charlie Murphy, and 277 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 1: there's this a cavalcade of people that I've been blessed 278 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: to be able to know and new at an early age. 279 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Prince was the first famous person that I met um 280 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: in my lifetime. And I didn't understand. I didn't know 281 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: him or his music or any of that. But Um, 282 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: he taught me the um link between what you do 283 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: as art and the preservation of your actual self. So 284 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: the fact that he was able to do complete work 285 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: for others while still working on his own complete works, 286 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: the fact that he was doing more today and the 287 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: time Vanity Babylonia and he is all that. The fact 288 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: that regardless of whether you liked how he looked in 289 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: his hair or dress or post or presentation, you had 290 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: to agree that you had not seen it before and 291 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: you had never seen it done the way he was 292 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: doing it, and he held himself to the type of 293 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: standard that you pay people for, you pay people to 294 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: hold due to a standard where you can be a 295 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: professional and always shapes and forms. I watched the guy 296 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: go for ten years party and I watched him ten 297 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: years not drinking or doing nothing, no caffeine. I watched 298 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: them be a Jehovah's witness. I watched, I watched all 299 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: of the different things. Um, he shared all of that 300 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: with me, and he was just a brilliant thinker and 301 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: a person who really understood, um the value of women 302 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: on the planet and the value of the feminine. And 303 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: he um understood that if your mother is a woman 304 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: and your father is a man, your mixed. Okay, I 305 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: gotta go back. Do you call him a brilliant thinker? 306 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: What makes him? Subjectionly because it's your opinion, but people 307 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: definitely agree with you. What makes him a brilliant thinker? 308 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: How does he see the world differently from anyone else? 309 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: How does he value women? As you mentioned more so? Okay, 310 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: that's separate, that's separate, But but the first part of 311 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: it is Um all of his moves were planned out 312 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: ten years in advance at all times that knew him 313 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: from when he was when I was twelve to UM 314 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: when he ascended. So that's was our discussion. Our friendship 315 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: was based upon the fact that there were three or 316 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: four things that he really valued my opinion on, and 317 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: there were ten things that I valued his opinion on everything, 318 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: but there were certain things that he trusted my opinion 319 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: on UM, And so that was always a connection between 320 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: ours is Prince never believed UM that anybody owned information 321 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: or knowledge, and so if he needed to know something, 322 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: he just wanted to know whoever was the smartest person 323 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: about that. He always just wanted to me who was 324 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: the best. If he was looking for a girlfriend, he 325 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: didn't care who she was. He cared if he thought 326 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: she was the most beautiful woman on the planet. And 327 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: that's who he wanted, and he was able to let 328 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: that fluctuate. He he appreciated and valued the arts. You 329 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: can't play twenty six instruments and not be above the 330 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: rest of us and thinking process. Whoa okay, so true artist, 331 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: And you're right about what he saw. His stories are legendary, 332 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: and I think whenever I meet someone who knew him 333 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: in an intimate way, I'm always fascinated I have. I 334 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: am fascinated by the group of people in which he 335 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: decided to commune with. He gave an audience to and 336 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: he enjoyed. I am not surprised that you are. You 337 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: guys were close friends. It makes sense on how he moved, 338 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: and he moved so stealth like. It wasn't loud. It 339 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: was really quiet. It was the opposite of someone as 340 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: famous as he is. Yeah, and in every single thing. 341 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: When you found out about it, he was already done 342 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: and he and I will work on things for four 343 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: years and then they just wouldn't happen, but we would 344 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: know why they didn't happen. I'm the one that meant 345 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: that had him start selling his albums himself, because as 346 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: a comedian, I put out an album and got the 347 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: distribution and pay for that and had the bar codes 348 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: on all of my music, and I gave a copy 349 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: to everybody who bought my tickets for the tour, and 350 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: so I sold two million copies of the record and 351 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: was on Billboard. And when he found out, he was like, 352 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: how is that even possible? You don't even have a 353 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: record deal. And I showed him how it happened. And 354 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: that's why he refused to ever sell that music through 355 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: anybody other than himself after that. Is that what he 356 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: changed his name to symbol is that you are you 357 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: telling me? You know this is this is when he's 358 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: doing crystal Ball and now he's only selling things through 359 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: MPG and he's not letting his music be sold by 360 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: a record label or a company or entity. So you're 361 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: very instrumental and how he's moving his music in society. 362 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: He asked you how you did it, and he followed 363 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: the plan. I am instrumental in all the relationships that 364 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm in. Hey, all the relationships that in those people 365 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: are instrumental in myself. I told Steph Curry to shoot 366 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: from out there because he had had the ability because 367 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I was haying him five thousand dollars for celebrity basketball games. 368 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: And I'm telling him, do you understand that they don't 369 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: even set the defense until you get to the three 370 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: point line. So if you will agree to shoot before 371 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: you get there, they don't even have a defense to 372 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: set up a game, will just be the greatest shoe 373 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: that had ever lived. I told Tyron lu to go 374 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: into teaching. I have. I'm blessed to have had relationships 375 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: where I'm able to be valuable and I'm useful because 376 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: of a certain skill set. Like we all trust the 377 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: doctor because he went to school eight years more than us. 378 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: But if he's in the kitchen, he needs to shut up. 379 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: In the kitchen, he's not a chef. On the plane, 380 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: he has to shut up. He's not the pilot. The 381 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: adopter is only good in the hospital scenario. Um. So 382 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, we're all just good at what we study. 383 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: And I just have studied people for forty years. So 384 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: you having said that, I'm thinking about the special especially 385 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: from last night, and there are things that I'm like, 386 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: I have to ask him about this because either went 387 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: over my head or I didn't. I didn't know where 388 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: you were going with it. So it's like a fax 389 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: machine twice Like a fax machine, um, because when you 390 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: sunk her, she makes a copy of you. Continue. A 391 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: fax machine is taking an original image and then making 392 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: copies of this image. Preserving this image is copy and 393 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: if I make ten of them, at some point they 394 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: won't look as close to this. But this process is 395 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: a mechanical process, and this this is a process that 396 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: is existing and everything is predicated on this, Like there. 397 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: We live in a society where we get a chance 398 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: to decide whether women get rights or decide how much 399 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: a woman should decide about her. But everybody on this 400 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: planet came from a woman. It's the one discussion we 401 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: cannot be in, like if the aliens. If the aliens 402 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: come to this planet and they say who created everybody 403 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: on this planet? Until they meet God, the answer or 404 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: is the woman, which is why in everybody's religious books, 405 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: the woman is the end all, be all of all things, 406 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: even if it's Adam and Eve, or if it says 407 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: God and the Devil got in the fight and Satan 408 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: got thrown down here. Okay, so Satan and the demons 409 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: came down to the earth, and they could have had 410 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: anything on the earth, but all they wanted was pussy, 411 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: and nobody's books says they wanted anything other than that. 412 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: There was never any stories of diamonds or gold or 413 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: oil or anything being valuable or to anybody's supernatural except women. 414 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: They saw women made bodies and then had sex with them, 415 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: and that's all. It's sets. You have to understand the 416 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: importance of that as a commodity in your world. It's 417 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: bigger than the act of the enjoyable sex. It's the 418 00:26:53,280 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: fact that you come from there. So a society as 419 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: having a struggle figuring out who's on top and who's 420 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: on the bottom, and who should have the most rights 421 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: and who shouldn't it that that's a bad recipe, So 422 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: that joke is about the importance of the vagina, like 423 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: we would all we would have to have. Everybody who 424 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: has a business that sells eggs or omelets is having 425 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: to deal with the fact that the cost of eggs 426 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: is now extraordinary and it used to not be and 427 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: you were paying you were paying forty dollars for a case, 428 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: and now you're paying a hundred and twenty dollars for 429 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 1: a case. But you can't raise the price on an 430 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: omelet because you're already at the maximum price for two 431 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: scrambled eggs, and you lose your customers ass on. You 432 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. What I'm saying is never, never, 433 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: can the most valuable thing be taken for the practice. 434 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: That's what that joke is. The facts, mission and amen, 435 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: it is. It is the most valuable thing. I don't 436 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: think women even understand that. Sometimes you it for you 437 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: to say that and for me to be a woman 438 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: to ask you to explain that talks about sometimes how 439 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: they don't understand the value in that, but once they do, 440 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: it turns it into a whole another game, like once 441 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: you understand its value, it changes everything. But but they've 442 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: always known the value. That's why they made sure that 443 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: every woman represented in the Bible is either a whore 444 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: or a reformed whore. Tell me about that. Why do 445 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: you think that was in the Bible? Because in a 446 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: male driven society, there's no way that we can let 447 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: women be uplifted or that's the end of that discussion. Correct, Correct, 448 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: And they have to make sure they try to try 449 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: to anyway keep us down. It is necessary that it 450 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: would be done. We don't have to get into how 451 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: many religions don't let women talk. Well, we're in a 452 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: society right now. You mentioned it very casually. But roe 453 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: versus Wade, everything is on the table if they were, 454 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: if they are overturning roe versus ways that things that 455 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: aren't allowed to be on the table, they're not even 456 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: allowed to be on the table. Correct. There isn't a 457 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: person qualified to take a woman's right on this planet. Correct, 458 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: There isn't There isn't a woman There isn't a person 459 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: that's qualified to call it into questions only because no 460 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: one has ever questioned a man's right, because who would 461 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: do it? And and if they did, it would even 462 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: be if a man could give birth, this would even 463 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: be a question. We wouldn't even be having this conversation. 464 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: How is it mania tell me about something he's never 465 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: done before ever and what it should be and what 466 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be. It's crazy. It's crazy. As men are 467 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: in charge of contraception. That will be the end of 468 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: civilization because there's not gonna be anymore back. That's the 469 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: end of that. So when I'm time, what I'm trying 470 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: to do is not be funny in these specials. I'm 471 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: trying to have a conversation that's not being had, And 472 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry that these conversations are being had by 473 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: a comedian. I wish too, that it was a religious 474 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: leader of some kind having this conversation or somebody's politician 475 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: talking about this stuff. Um, I'm talking about legalizing we 476 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: ten years before it happens and going to jail for 477 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: it in every city and state while having my doctor's prescription, 478 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: and nobody cares that I'm going to jail. They just 479 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: assume I must have be doing something to get me there, 480 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: and they don't even care about get out because they 481 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: just assumed, I guess you must have paid them off. 482 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy what we allowed in a society that 483 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: we say is free. Um, even if we believe that 484 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Roe Versus Way was a problem. We vote on everything 485 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: in this country. We we we vote on the p 486 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: t A, we vote at a city council level. When 487 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: when did anybody vote on this stupid, unpopular thing. No, 488 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: they don't. It's not even left it's it's it's just 489 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: because they need to do things that have never been 490 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: done before. In order to do that, you need to 491 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: do some stuff that's never been done before. Oftentimes we 492 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: look for our comedians I do anyway, to give us 493 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: a perspective about society that we don't, that we have 494 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: taken for granted. And I know, while there may be 495 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: humor injected in it, it's always a sobering story of 496 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: where we are. Like comedians, for me, really good ones, 497 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: really are able to take what's going on in society 498 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: and say this is what it is, make it palpable, 499 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: make it digestible. And so you do exactly what the 500 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: boards commentator does. That's what this endless does. They're they're 501 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: they're not. We at home are already given our opinion 502 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: about the game as it's happening in real time. What 503 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: we're missing is the facts and the eloquence, the artic 504 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: in lay, and the information and analysis to be able 505 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: to do it, or we would all be doing it 506 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: at the house where at the house going wait a minute, 507 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: that ain't been done since uh the analysts walks us 508 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: through the rest You that's how you are able to 509 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: be one of two black women in your lane in 510 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: the course of fifty years people and kept it by 511 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: people that pay Like it's the same thing, Like we 512 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: are being trusted because of something and it's our job 513 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: to maintain that as much as we can. We can't. 514 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: We can't, we can't. I didn't want to break away 515 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: because it's juicy. It's juicy, right. We have more with 516 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Catt Williams after the bring Every champion and carry champion 517 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: is to be a champion of champion and carry chappion 518 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: and carry Chappion champion and carry Chappion and carry Chappion 519 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: sport and then the sameing can make it work. Chepi 520 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: and the car Cheppi Champion. They carry Cheppion and they 521 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: care Chepi and the Hey everybody, so welcome back. Cat 522 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: Williams still talking to us. We've got We've got This 523 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 1: is juicy podcast. So if you've worked out, you've been 524 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: driving for a few minutes. It's longer than usual. We 525 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: didn't break it up into two segments, but it's enough 526 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: for y'all to listen to over three days and recommended 527 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: to your friends because Cat keeps it a buck. You 528 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: do not want to miss this here he is. I 529 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: feel like when you you talk, you they're just they're 530 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: handful that have that Oh I'm paying attention. What did 531 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: he say? That is a beautiful thing? What it? I 532 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: don't know if you view it the way I do. 533 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't have any pressure being a black woman in sports. 534 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: I feel like when I first started, it was me 535 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: just finding my way and trying to make sure that 536 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: I could get respect in a place where there was 537 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: no respectability for women, especially a black woman. Um. And 538 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: then if you do the work, it eventually pays off. 539 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: If you do the work, it pays off. You know, 540 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: my rookie season, I do all the work. It pays off. 541 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: If that was true, no NBA player would play another 542 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: game into the w NBA players get a real salary 543 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: and they wouldn't do but they won't do that. Man, Okay, 544 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: so so so so are you saying that? Tell me 545 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: why you say if that were true? Because clearly isn't that. 546 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: It's not it's not true, but there are there are 547 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: these ideas, right that woman I am talking about from experience, 548 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: they don't know. I'm not going to get into that 549 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: because it's clearly not true. You're right, it's stupid. But 550 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: when you say something right and you make a and 551 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: you really bring something that's very sad but very true. 552 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: For instance, last night, you talk about well we can 553 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: have Bernie's and and every moment you talk about bit 554 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 1: and you're like, he might said, and he's not gonna 555 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: answer the questions. He never answers it. Right. I look 556 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: at that and it makes me laugh because it's like, 557 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: this is so true. Yes, I know listening to this 558 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: man president, but I don't know what he's talking about. 559 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: He forgets thoughts, he's saying the wrong thing. Everyone says, 560 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: and his camp says he's lucid and aware. He is not. 561 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: What are our options when we're sitting there watching this 562 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: man talk, we don't have our options. I'm I, I 563 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: look at the way you described our country last night, 564 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, we're correct, like like we're we got 565 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: a nine year old man and and I don't see 566 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: anybody who could beat Trump. And so you make this joke, 567 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if it's really resonating with the people 568 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: that I think it should resonate with. Your audience should 569 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: be up in arms about this, even though we're laughing 570 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: and joking about it. We should not be distracted, right, 571 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: But they are professionals that have propaganda on both sides, 572 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: and so that's how it's done. So the reason the 573 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: joke is set up that way is because, Um, if 574 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: I say something mentory about Joe Biden that makes me 575 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: on the left, and if I say something against Joe 576 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: Biden that would make me on the right, My job 577 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: is neither. My job as a public officialist to be 578 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: in the middle. What I'm saying is as ridiculous as 579 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: what we just experienced. Is this not equally equally read home? 580 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: Thing about right? See the thing about Weekend that Bernie's 581 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: is not the fact. If the movie is an old reference. 582 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: But if you know the reference, you understand that the 583 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: man who is Bernie is deceased. You're looking at his 584 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: movements as if this is a real creature. This is not. 585 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: He is propped up and supported by this agenda, and 586 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: this agenda is who you see answering the questions, making 587 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: the moves and the decisions. That this is a puppetary 588 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: figure year and so I, as a comedian, have to 589 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: go the opposite way. Now, yes, I hope that you 590 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: give it on either side that it is this system 591 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: we don't we have a system. We would never let 592 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: um a retired basketball player, UM win MVP for the league. 593 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: You didn't have right, No, no, no, right, you're you're 594 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: not old, You're not right. So the fact that this 595 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: is the only place that we decide that we're gonna 596 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: hire the elderly, it's not um the way that anyone 597 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: does business anywhere in the country. If you can show 598 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: me the seven year old CEO of a fortune five company, 599 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: then I'll have a conversation. The United States is the 600 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: top of that. So it doesn't do us anymore service 601 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: to have someone who is negligent than it did for 602 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: us to have an erratic maniac in there. Say that again, 603 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: there's still no accountability. Say that again. My job is 604 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: I'm trying to take a terrible, unpleasant, un unlikable position 605 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: and say it. I hope it's funny, but if it 606 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: gets discussed and it's not funny, I'll win. If it's 607 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: funny and don't get discussed, I win. But what I 608 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: really want is this conversation is supposed to be happening 609 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: about all of this. So that's that's what I the 610 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: experience I've tried to make my stand up into. But 611 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: it requires me not to be on a side. Essentially. 612 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: That's hard to do because I feel like all of 613 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: us are subjective and we all have our own unconscious 614 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: bias and our regular bold ass bias. So to be 615 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: able to talk about either side it is, that's tough 616 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: to do. And try to be neutral, right, because that's 617 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to do. I'm not. I've given that. 618 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: I know. No, you are neutral. Um, I love my Lakers. 619 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 1: You're biased, oh, ma'am. You're biased to champions, Yes, exactly, 620 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: you only care about those that win. Are again the 621 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: pursuit of winning. Um that there is that bias, but 622 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: that doesn't affect how you do business, and we don't 623 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: pick up bias from you. Um we we we have 624 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: the expectation for everybody on the news that they're being unbiased, 625 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: but we can tell that they're not. We understand they're 626 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: just reading the teleprompter. Correct if you think it. Never 627 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: in our lives have we seen somebody get charged with 628 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: a crime and then see that crime get lessons for them. 629 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: We watched a guy with a gun and a knife 630 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: tackle Dave Chappelle live while assaulting them. That's already a 631 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: felony in California, aff the fake gun, of felony for 632 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: the knife, then a felony for the assault. We watched 633 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: three felonies get turned into a misdemeanor. Because we're trying 634 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: to make it where it's okay for people to respond 635 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: if they don't like something. And that's how the Will 636 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: Smith Chris rob things happens. That's how I get a 637 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: gun put on me for telling a joke, and that 638 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: guy doesn't go to jail, and nothing happens, and there's 639 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: no hub of things. Things are changing at all times, 640 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: and so we have to understand that and make our 641 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: moves accordingly. I must ask you, because we are talking 642 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 1: about it. I remember after the Will Smith slap incident 643 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: and Chris Rocking. After Will Smith slapped Chris rock Uh, 644 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 1: comedians were like, it's crazy. Y' don't understand how tough 645 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: it is for us out here. This is ridiculous. This 646 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: happens all the time. I remember not feeling like I 647 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,959 Speaker 1: was aware of comedians lives being threatened or in danger. 648 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: So you just say you had a gun put to 649 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: your head. We watch what happens with um Dave Chapelle. 650 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: The guy rushes the stage, got his ass beat rightfully, 651 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: So in your ass beat has never given you leniency 652 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: with the law. If I robbed the bank and while 653 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: in the process of me robbing in the bank, I 654 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: dropped the gun and everybody in the bank whoops, my 655 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: ass is that less in my charge? You know you're 656 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: going to jail. You did what It don't matter, Yeah, 657 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Those things happened. Those things happened when 658 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: somebody benefits from those things happen, and then that's the 659 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: only time you see those things happen. And they can 660 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: tell you whatever story they want to. They tell you 661 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: a story where well, the police asked, did anybody or 662 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: want them to be arrested and they didn't know, and 663 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: then the police asked the victim and you said so, 664 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: then the police just didn't arrest him. Is that how 665 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: the police work? Have we ever heard of anything like 666 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: that lifetime? Of course not so Will Smith, Chris Rock, 667 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: you watch that? What do you think? How do you 668 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: digest it? I am in the production business. I understand 669 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: what is worth doing for ratings. I understand what is 670 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: worth doing when the industry is canceling one black guy. 671 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: I know what happens when they are going to elevate another, 672 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: and I know what happens when they don't care about 673 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: either of you. This is how quarterback and go. So 674 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: the question is, hey, your quarterback just get sacked. Did 675 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: we know we was spend to stack your quarterback? We 676 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: absolutely did. It was a play, buddy. We've been rehearsing it, 677 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: working it out. Mega sure that at some point, when 678 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: you get to this level, we can make sure we 679 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: knock you from a twenty million dollar man to putting 680 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: in the news that people won't hire you know more, 681 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: and your career is done. Yeah, so you all that 682 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: you said? It is what I'm saying that everything that 683 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: happens in a business that's based off of pretends that 684 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: seems like a setup. Is Everything that happens in the business, 685 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: everything that happens in the business that seems that's based 686 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: off of pretend that seems like a setup is. Yeah. 687 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if just Smoley and Lee Daniels 688 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: for a living make stories that are not real, and 689 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: they make them so good that people believe them and 690 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: buy them, and that that's what business they're in. Why 691 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: would you think it would be weird if they flipped 692 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: out and set a story that turned out to not 693 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: be true. Why why would we think that? If they 694 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: are capable, that's what they do for a living. They 695 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: do that three episodes is take something fictitious and make 696 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: it seem real. That's the business. Why would you I 697 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: don't understand that. But I don't think Will was presenting 698 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: very many mistakes. I don't think what was pretending. I 699 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: thought he was having a nervous breakdown in front of us. Well, 700 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: here's the thing for a Will to be having a 701 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: nervous breakdown for it to affect him like that. This 702 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: is collaborative. So for when Will Smith speaks, Will Smith 703 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: is not the giant that he is solely on the 704 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: merits of Will Smith or his family. Um, there are 705 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: three hundred corporations that are a part of the Will 706 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: Smith business operation. That is the twenty million dollar a 707 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: movie mega thing that Will Smith represents. And if you 708 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: are the people that are in business with him, where 709 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: you decide that you're gonna do something, you can do 710 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: it too. These circumstances are not um. We we see 711 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: him as all. This is why he said something about 712 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: his wife and he got mad and jeopardized his career, 713 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: and then the other guy had to decide what he 714 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: was gonna do with his career, and then he you know, 715 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: we have to understand that these are two giants in 716 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: our field. If you're a black person, this is two 717 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: guys too big and too good to be involved in 718 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: what they're in. That would make sense if it's me 719 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: and Michael Blackson slapping each other, not now, not Will 720 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: Smith and Chris rock These are when two large boulders 721 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: come together and you can't see Chris Rockland and at 722 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: all he's humiliated. If you were gonna slap a comedian, 723 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: he was the number one to slap head of the coons, 724 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 1: so slappable. And if you're gonna slap him. You just 725 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: need the greatest guy, the bestest guy, the one who's 726 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: shown us him being on his best behavior since the nineties. 727 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: That guy is the one that would have to slap 728 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: them in order for the type of ratings we need 729 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: an attention to be on this. See what I'm saying 730 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: is in business, nothing is coincidental, or you would be 731 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: hearing who's losing money and all of these situations, it's 732 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 1: only the artist that's losing. Somebody makes a big money 733 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: when these rappers get killed. Not incidental. Somebody made a 734 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars and now don't have to talk to 735 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: that artist or none of their crew, don't have to 736 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: validate none of their contracts. Now only got to deal 737 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: with the mama, only got to see her once a year, 738 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: and it's over. And the money he goes up and 739 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: up and up. So they killed this twenty million dollar guy, 740 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: but they reached sixty million in benefits and they have 741 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 1: some people from your city do it. Wow, I'm saying 742 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: there there's the good side and the bad side of 743 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 1: of of these businesses. And buts ab what you just 744 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: just think about what you just said. That's extremely thoughtful 745 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 1: and powerful. It could only be what it was if 746 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: it were those two, those two Will Smith and Chris Rock. 747 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: It could only be what it has been with those 748 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: particular those two black men, if you put any other 749 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: names together. Um, the police are out on stage, they've 750 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: cut to commercial. You didn't see what happened. By the 751 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: time they come out, people have been removed. It goes 752 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 1: on it. It's certain ways things are handled when it's 753 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: not intentional. When things go smoothly but they seem chaotic, 754 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: that means there was forethought in a plane somebody even 755 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: if it looks like, yeah, Jennet Jackson just had a 756 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 1: wardrobe malfunction, Yeah, there's no such thing, correct. I believe. 757 00:47:54,360 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 1: I believe that somebody benefited. So in all of the situations, 758 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: there's a business involved and there's real money involved, as 759 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: somebody's benefiting from this thing that looks like, oh that 760 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: just happens. Nah, no way, no way. It would be 761 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: hard for a homeless guy to get into the Hollywood Bowl, 762 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: let alone a homeless guy be able to rush the stage. 763 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: And actually, so you're saying same for Dave Chappelle and 764 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: this random homeless person. I thought the same thing I'm like, 765 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: how do you rush the stage? I've been to Hollywood Ball, 766 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: how do you rush the stage? Yeah, this is the 767 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: business where in the business where make believe happens, where 768 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,760 Speaker 1: the job is to have something that costs nine cents 769 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: for us to make and we sell it for four 770 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 1: ninety nine to you for a good deal. And it's 771 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: okay that it costs us nine cents. But in the 772 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: in the in this business, the star is the commodity. 773 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: These are real people, real lives. When things you see, 774 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: things happen and you don't have all of the information. 775 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: The true tragedy is what Jada Pinkett Smith is having 776 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: to go through in that scenario. Considering if at most 777 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: you can say maybe she disappointed Will, other than that 778 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 1: she is upheld black women actresses. We've never been embarrassed 779 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 1: of Jada Pinkett Smith. She always worked hard for every 780 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: role and worked hard and is she always was willing 781 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: to give us every She's being successful through. She didn't 782 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: get made by Will Smith. Regardless of what you think 783 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: about her relationship, that's not your relationship. I love for 784 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: you talking about Jada, how people have tried to vilify her. 785 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: That's especially after her quote unquote entanglement. I think it's 786 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: so disrespectful. I think she has been nothing but class personified. 787 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, Like she could as 788 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: a block, she's been more than that, more than that. 789 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: And I don't like how she's getting such a bad 790 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: rap because I was like, this is That's not what 791 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: this is when you go on No, there is a 792 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: business where they fiddle with the perception of the people. 793 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: And that's part of the job. Back in the day 794 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: used to be called propaganda. Now it's just called business. 795 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 1: They don't say we gotta smear the candidate. They smear him. 796 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: He ever made jewics who was qualified to break you? 797 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: That's the end of it. When they bought you and 798 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: put you on that Fox show, it was because you 799 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: were going to do this and only this. You'll never 800 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: do that. As soon as you breache that, they've done 801 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: with you too. So they have decided that they were 802 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,760 Speaker 1: finished with will when he did After Earth with Jaden, 803 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: because there was no way they was gonna let Jade, 804 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: knowing because Jade didn't have to do what you had 805 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: to do to get the We're not gonna let you, 806 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: but Jade man Willow and from there. They've done what 807 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: was necessary to take him from a twenty million dollar 808 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: A movie to put him in a position where maybe 809 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: it can appear he has a nervous breakdown and now 810 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 1: is unemployable. And it's not racist. They did it with 811 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: the white actors as well. They cut down Angelina Jolie 812 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 1: and Brad Pitt and all of them from twenty million 813 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: dollar A movie. People too, left them out there to 814 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: drive and restructure everything. This This is business at its 815 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: highest level, people's life, and you can't understand that. So 816 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: if someone's listening to you and doesn't have an understanding 817 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: of a little small understanding of how this world works 818 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: and how they build you to destroy you, they can't 819 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: really get what you're saying. But it's real as hell. 820 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: And I want to go back to what you said 821 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: earlier about women and how important they are, and then 822 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 1: you and then you and I appreciate you talking about 823 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: how dope Jada is. I feel like, and it's even 824 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: feel it's true. Women don't get the credit that they deserve, 825 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: especially Black women in a society. We we sit here 826 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: and we're fighting on the front lines for a lot 827 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,400 Speaker 1: of things, and we're told all the things were not, 828 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: and you said she's more than class, right, But there 829 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: has to be responsibility taken as well. Though, yes we're yes, 830 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 1: we're responsible. No no, no, that's not what I mean. 831 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,879 Speaker 1: What I mean whatever women feel like they don't get 832 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: credit for who were they supposed to get it from? 833 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: What do you mean you birth? You birthed us as 834 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: a baby. We don't get to be in charge of y'all. Hm. 835 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: So the expectation that we should be understanding what you 836 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 1: are no no, no, no child is misconfused, of misinformed 837 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: or u no, no child is wondering what the relationship 838 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,479 Speaker 1: is between me, child and mama. See what I'm saying. 839 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: Every child instantly knows what that relationship is and what 840 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: it means. But something happens between the time that you've 841 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: given birth and you become an adult and you're indoctrinated 842 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: by society and you feel like it's okay to to 843 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: to repeal Roe versus Wade, right, Something happens in between 844 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 1: and the society in which we live in that says 845 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: that we don't matter. We're given because it's a it's 846 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: a it's a patriarchy right, even although we are the 847 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: giver of life it's still a patriarchy. It's still male dominant. Yes, 848 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: just because um, we're not equal. We're not equal, we're superior. 849 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: We keep trying to put the sexes on equal footing, 850 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: and the sexes and ever be on equal footing unless 851 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: a man produces life out of his penis. Other than that, 852 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:17,480 Speaker 1: it's never gonna be equal footing. Now in business, um, 853 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: men were thought to be um better in business and 854 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: haly business as societal things because of how great the 855 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: woman was and how vast her responsibility was before she 856 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: ever left her home. So the woman had already done 857 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: eight jobs already at this place we lived. Um, this 858 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: wasn't the great mother. This was all mothers. They had 859 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: got up, got the kids together, dear food, taking care 860 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,439 Speaker 1: of about it. Ain't no money she're handling this, doing 861 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: that she got that's the house. It's to the point 862 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: where it would be like, why would I want a 863 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: woman to work? She do so much like women shouldn't 864 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: even be able to do nothing else that they should 865 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: just do this thing they do and make life enjoyable. 866 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: And we the guys go out and do whatever the tough, ugly, dirty, 867 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: nasty sax stuff is that makes money. So that we 868 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: can bring that home and enjoy bliss at this house 869 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: with this woman. That's what everything was set up for. 870 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: In the patriarchal system. It was respect first. It was 871 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 1: we respected what the woman brought to the table so 872 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,279 Speaker 1: much that she shouldn't even be doing. Even in the 873 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: religions where they cover a woman and they'd be like, 874 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: that's so disrespectful to women, it's really not. It's really 875 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,240 Speaker 1: because it's really refusing to let you be objectified. Nobody 876 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,800 Speaker 1: can say she's fine. It's held because they don't know, 877 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: and because their religious books said that the devil came 878 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,360 Speaker 1: down and found you attractive and you fail for that, 879 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: and and Adam and Eve you ass that's what the 880 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: snake and well that women can't be trusted with the heart. Yeah, 881 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying these are uncomfortable conversations. Say stuff like comedian. 882 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 1: No comedian would pick these type of conversations to talk 883 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: about in the first place. I could talk about having 884 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: about movement and be funny for thirty minutes. Guaranteed I 885 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: could just talk about, Hey, I went to the drive too, 886 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: and this took like I could tell those type of 887 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: stories with my time and be guaranteed to be funnier 888 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: than all of the peers I have. But I'm trying 889 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 1: to have I'm trying to curate the most impossible conversation 890 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: to have comedically, and I try to have it. So 891 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 1: when it works well, it does. Um. When it doesn't, 892 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't. But we're all in this together. We all 893 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 1: have shared experiences. They're only top eight type of people 894 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: on the planet and everybody else is an alien. We 895 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,760 Speaker 1: live in a society where people don't believe in aliens, 896 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: but they do believe in the angels, and they do 897 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: believe in God, and you do believe that loved one 898 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: is going to heaven and they do, but they don't. Yeah, 899 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 1: so it's at a time where the truth is still 900 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 1: king and UM. Sometimes you have to shame the populace 901 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 1: into having in these conversations. If it takes me for 902 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: me saying something stupid like a woman's vagina is a 903 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: fact machine for a conversation to UM. You talk about 904 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: uncomfortable conversations, you always have them. It takes a lot 905 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: of courage to do that, and not even courage. Sometimes 906 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: it's just in you and you don't even know that 907 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I I ask you what 908 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: do you need? And I'll wrap with this because or 909 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: what or where do you find your piece you have? 910 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: I can only imagine that your mind is going and 911 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: you're aware, and you observe, and you see and you think, 912 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: and you'r ten steps ahead, if not thirty steps ahead, 913 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: and you're having these conversations with sometimes could appear in 914 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: mere mortals who don't get it. Where do you find 915 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: your piece? How do you turn off? If at all possible? 916 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: I found in my whole life all I wanted to 917 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: do is be an explorer. I wanted to find out things. 918 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: I found out that information and knowledge is free, and 919 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: that you cannot know something one second and the very 920 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 1: second that you know something that's an extra thing that 921 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, and it's a commodity of gathering information. So 922 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: I found out that a lot of times when we 923 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: can't get something to work because we're misunderstanding the directions. 924 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: We understand the directions, but we're misunderstanding them. So if 925 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 1: you follow religion, it says, um, the Lord is my shepherd, 926 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: I shall not want and then it goes on to 927 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 1: tell you other things. But I found out that that 928 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: first part is the actual instruction. The Lord is my shepherd, 929 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: I shall not want and that's the end. And so 930 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: my piece is the fact that I don't want anything 931 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:29,439 Speaker 1: ever from anywhere, any body, anything, any situation. I don't 932 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: have any expectations of you them nobody are you a human. 933 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't have an expectation of you. I know how 934 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: this goes. You could do whatever you want to do. 935 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 1: I I have no wants, I have no needs. Who 936 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm connected to gives me every single thing I have 937 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 1: ever wanted. If I didn't get it, I found out 938 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to have it. So now I don't 939 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: even want what I do want. I just know if 940 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: I look at something too long, I'm gonna have it. 941 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 1: So when you have no once and no needs, you 942 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: can't be put in a desperate situation. You can't be pressed, 943 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: you can't be under pressure. You can only have peace 944 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 1: and um if someone is listening and you want to 945 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: find peace, if you can find a body of water, 946 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: however long you can hold your breath under, there is peace. 947 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: So if you can only do ten seconds, and you 948 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: can give yourself ten seconds of peace underwater, you will 949 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: find that everything you need is within access of you. 950 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: You do not need anyone to complete you in anything 951 01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 1: or any journey, you are complete. The journey of this 952 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,439 Speaker 1: life is finding out that you were complete the whole time. 953 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Finding out that what you thought wasn't value but was valuable. 954 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: To find out the people that were being oppressed where 955 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: our most surprised jewel of all people. To find find 956 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 1: out that all these people were held down and is 957 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 1: they run every thing? The world is great because of them. Um, 958 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 1: you open yourself up to that. It's it's important that 959 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 1: you understand that whatever it is you're missing in your 960 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: life right now, as long as it's not money, because 961 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,479 Speaker 1: remember money isn't real. It's just something that represents something. 962 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: So when it was coli shells, it was, when it 963 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: was paper, it was when it was coins, it was 964 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 1: when it was rocks, it was. Now that it's bitcoin 965 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: and it's invisible like it does, it doesn't matter whatever 966 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: it is you think you're missing. You can access that 967 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 1: that it is uh able to be accessed by humans, 968 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: and you are humans and you are worthy, and it 969 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it looks like. That is what makes 970 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: living on this planet exciting and it is that way. 971 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: So there, that's um, that's how I get my piece. 972 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 1: That's why it's not chaotic for me. I understand when 973 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm punching that your job is to try to punch me. 974 01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: Now I understand the rhythm of it. I don't celebrate 975 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 1: because I understand that the punch is coming. And that's 976 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I got taught that from being a parent, 977 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: because you can never be a perfect parent. You can 978 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 1: just do the best you can. And that's seeing that conversation. Yeah, 979 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: because you don't know, you not that you know, and 980 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 1: you're like, and that's all I have. I'm just figuring 981 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: it out as we go. That's all I have, right, 982 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: And and understand that all all of us are trying 983 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: to be better than our parents. We don't even know 984 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 1: what that means. Is different circumstances like there are no 985 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: rule books like yeah, so you know when we understand 986 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: that you can control every single thing that you've been controlled, 987 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 1: but you can't control nothing. You can't control, and that's 988 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 1: the beauty of it. There's nothing stopping great things from 989 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: happening to you. That's why suicide is the only thing 990 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: you cannot do. You can never take yourself out of 991 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 1: a game. Don't worry, they'll cart Joe Cark gets off 992 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 1: as soon as you expire. But we don't take ourselves 993 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: out the game because that's champions. We know the next 994 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: game is the best game. That's it. We gotta keep fighting, 995 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 1: we gotta keep moving. I love it and know the 996 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 1: punch is coming. That, by the way, was a word 997 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,439 Speaker 1: for me, because look, they you're gonna punch up, They're 998 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna punch back. Just be ready because it's coming. And 999 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 1: that's the nature of the game. I whether you believe 1000 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 1: it and Zin or Buddha or whatever, whatever it is, 1001 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: whatever your religion is, I get whoever you pray to, 1002 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: whoever your god is, the universe, Jesus, whatever it is, 1003 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: I totally I'm picking up with you down, Cat Williams. 1004 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. I've taken far too much of your time. 1005 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. I've been a fan and this 1006 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: has been enlightening. And I do appreciate you. I do. 1007 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: You're a beautiful black man for giving me that, and 1008 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: you aren't a righteous namesake for yourself, and um, I 1009 01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: know that you know. Yeah that I've said enough, It's okay. 1010 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:09,640 Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take it in conversation. Yeah, just know 1011 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: how important you are too. I think. I don't think 1012 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: you understand how many people you represent, like underderstand it 1013 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't women that were happy to see you. 1014 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 1: It was it was you know what I mean, Like 1015 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: we shouldn't we shouldn't be cheated, Like we went through 1016 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: a whole fifty years where we weren't allowed to get 1017 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: our sports or information from somebody we thought was pretty 1018 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 1: even allowable. You were correct and even allowable talk. It 1019 01:04:52,800 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: had to be an old heavy boys trust correct, weel 1020 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: ball to the point where a supermodel and you and 1021 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Jamail can come out. And that's that's everything. We received it. 1022 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 1: We received it. Thank you. When you're you ain't lying. 1023 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: You had to look a certain way, and we said, no, 1024 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: thank you, I'll take it. I'll take something different. Um, 1025 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,919 Speaker 1: Cat Williams are naked, and just as naked and real 1026 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: and honest and educating and enlightening. I take it. Thank 1027 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate you. Thank you for being naked. 1028 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Just to recap, he was very clear about Chris rock 1029 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: One being a coon to Jada Pinkett Smith as a hero. Three, 1030 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 1: be your own boss, be willing to take chances, and 1031 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 1: when you are your own boss, and when you are 1032 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 1: winning the way in which he wins. They won't celebrate it, 1033 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 1: they won't talk about it out loud. They will make 1034 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: you out to be a villain because it's intimidating and 1035 01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: it's scary, and you don't make people comfortable. He loves 1036 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 1: to embrace an uncomfortable conversation. You've listened to this podcast. 1037 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: If you're not trying to do uncomfortable, you cannot change 1038 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 1: the world. You may not agree with what he had 1039 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 1: to say, but I will tell you this, When you 1040 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 1: make people think about things differently, you're leaving an impact. 1041 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 1: I hope you all are doing that. Are we leaving 1042 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 1: an impact? This man came and he was completely naked, 1043 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 1: and he was so gracious and so kind to me 1044 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: and knew who I was. He's a smart man. There's 1045 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 1: something to be said for smart people, not that many 1046 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: of them in the world. You may not agree what 1047 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 1: he has to say, that's fine. Being smart is a 1048 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: rare quality these days. Do you hear me? Rare quality? 1049 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: Las I thank you all for listening. More Naked next week.