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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 2: This this Morning.

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Speaker 3: Combat back like a bad habit. On the sixteenth of

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Speaker 3: May of twenty twenty two. It is time for episode

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Speaker 3: three hundred and whatever the f right here on Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Hi everyone, I am merely one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 3: My name is Luke Thomas. I join you from the

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Speaker 3: Capitol status of Needles right here in Washington, DC, joined

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Speaker 3: by the Viceroy of Connecticut. He's got a haircut straight

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Speaker 3: from LFO the Band in nineteen ninety nine. Chinese food

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Speaker 3: also makes him sick. It's my friend in yours. It's

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Speaker 3: Ryan Campbell. What's up? BC?

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Speaker 4: Look? I love it. I love it when you dip

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Speaker 4: into the nineties, Luke like that. It makes me feel

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Speaker 4: good in my loinage right there. Thank you, Just like

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Speaker 4: MK luc It's something unpredictable but in the end feels right.

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Speaker 4: So I hope you have the show of your life today, Luke,

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Speaker 4: because I'm ready. I'm fired up. Okay, look at me

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Speaker 4: in that white crew neck right there from J Crew.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, wow, I wouldn't say that's PRIMEBC, but you

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Speaker 4: know that guy's a finalist.

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Speaker 3: Okay, finalist of PRIMEBC. All right, we see. Speaking of finals, man,

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Speaker 3: there was a bunch of games over the weekend which

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Speaker 3: were pretty cool, but we're not going to talk about those.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about all the fights that happened. There was

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Speaker 3: pretty incredible to put it mildly, and an amazing, amazing fight.

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Speaker 3: So we'll get to all of those. Thumbs up on

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Speaker 3: Of course, if you had showtime over the weekend you

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Speaker 3: got to watch Belt or you got to watch Charlo Costania.

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Speaker 3: You'll like it, keep it if not something else with

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Speaker 4: Yes they can, Luke. And if you're watching us abroad,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Yes, very very good, BC. Was your weekend

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Speaker 4: Yeah? You know it was very relaxing, Luke. Okay, A

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Speaker 4: lot of time spent outside in the backyard. It was

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Speaker 3: Luke, I don't, but it's probably some vague reference to

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Speaker 3: Look, it was very direct, okay, very direct. BC. I

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Speaker 4: What are you expecting out of this hit with Bryan

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and he's so well rounded that sometimes you can

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but who cares? They're they're losers. You think I

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Speaker 4: Get some Connecticut shit right there. That's why Luke.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you think I give a shit what the

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Speaker 3: two seventy five.

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Speaker 4: That's what I said before we we we cut out

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Speaker 4: there before that that I would rather Blohovich go back

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Speaker 4: to the title. I think he look again, I learned

435
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Speaker 4: what I learned from this fight. If you can take

436
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Speaker 4: as much as I thought I did, I learned a lot.

437
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Speaker 4: So I would rather that. Does Uncle I have Uncle Auntie,

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Speaker 4: I have have Anthony Smith lined up?

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Speaker 3: Is that correct fact, Luke, I don't know if it's full.

440
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Speaker 3: I'll double check before.

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Speaker 4: I think that's in the International Fight Week card.

442
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Speaker 3: Right I'm gonna look right now. I'm gonna look right now.

443
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Speaker 4: If Uncle Iav gets through that, he would be without

444
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Speaker 4: a major reward. It could happen, Luke, It could very

445
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Speaker 4: well happen. I think though, UFC can go either way,

446
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,959
Speaker 4: and I don't think they get criticized either way because

447
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,640
Speaker 4: you know, former champ going back in there in a rematch,

448
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Speaker 4: or the former champ going back in there against a

449
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Speaker 4: Prohotska who just you know kicked the door in against

450
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Speaker 4: the sheriff. It goes that way either way, Luke, I

451
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Speaker 4: could I could see why that would be the stronger

452
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Speaker 4: matchmaking choice. Not that Yon's a giant draw, but just

453
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Speaker 4: I think that'd be the better direction right now. But

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Speaker 4: let's see what Uncleia does, Luke, you never know he

455
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Speaker 4: may blow away Anthony Smith to a degree that we're like,

456
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Speaker 4: oh shit, that guy has to have the next This

457
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Speaker 4: is why you watch the fights. I love this show.

458
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Speaker 3: I like how you, I like how your your viewing

459
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Speaker 3: of the potential future is only on Calia potentially blowing

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Speaker 3: away Smith and not the other way, although I certainly

461
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Speaker 3: would grant that.

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Speaker 4: No, No, Anthony Smith has been known to surprise me

463
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Speaker 4: inside that cage, Luke. Okay, seriously, he's he's he's well

464
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Speaker 4: rounded and gritty and and I would love to meet

465
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Speaker 4: with him personally, Luke and talk about.

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Speaker 3: That b see. To answer your question, no, it is

467
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Speaker 3: not International Fight Week that on Calive has a potential

468
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Speaker 3: fight with Smith. It is, however, still in July July thirtieth,

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Speaker 3: UFC two seventy seven on Calia versus Smith has been

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Speaker 3: knowledge of the Bross plans confirmed MMA fighting. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if it's official, but that's the way it's looking.

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Speaker 3: So there you have it. Okay, So if you have

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Speaker 3: that and you know, yeah, I mean I guess, well, okay,

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Speaker 3: then but I'll be see hold on, we're not answering

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Speaker 3: the question if on Cali and Smith fight and you

476
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Speaker 3: have Belhovich, I'm not like, who gets you would? I mean,

477
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Speaker 3: I know what Blohovich is the former champion, But dude,

478
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Speaker 3: if on Cali have wins that and it continues what

479
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Speaker 3: is basically like not an undefeated streak, but it's been

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Speaker 3: one since the Paul Craig mishap or whatever you want

481
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Speaker 3: to call that, dude, wouldn't he be your runaway number

482
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Speaker 3: one candidate?

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Speaker 4: It would depend how you know, if he blows away

484
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Speaker 4: Anthony Smith and blows your doors and he easily could.

485
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Speaker 4: I think though, knowing UFC's matchmaking history, they would run

486
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Speaker 4: the former champ right back in. That's all I'm saying,

487
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and make him once more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and also I don't know how you would

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Speaker 3: else do it, because you wouldn't have Belhovitch fight the

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Speaker 3: winner of Smith and on Calive. It would be like

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Speaker 3: like Blhovitch would get it, and then the winner of

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Speaker 3: that would get it. They wouldn't meet again, right there.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't have that, So okay, fair enough, And you're

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Speaker 3: the thoughts on the main event.

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Speaker 4: Well, this division, which is in transition of course, and

496
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Speaker 4: these names aren't the you know, the household known across

497
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Speaker 4: the board. But dude, this top five or all hammers

498
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Speaker 4: right now? I late havev youweight how many of them

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Speaker 4: do you think could beat John Jones at two A

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Speaker 4: five right now?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I thought Reyes beat him. To

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Speaker 3: be clear about that, I've said it before some one time.

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Speaker 3: I've scored it for him. So Glover probably not. Blahovich No,

504
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Speaker 3: because of the wrestling. Uh, Pratska is a weird one.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to answer that one. Proska is

506
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Speaker 3: a weird one. Racket.

507
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Speaker 4: You know who Rackage is. Rackitch is the kind of

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Speaker 4: guy that John Jones could leave the back door open

509
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Speaker 4: to and lose three too, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: See that one'ld be tough on Calive, I think beats him.

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Speaker 3: Un Calive, I think beats him.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're so you're that high on old uncle I have,

513
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Speaker 4: You're real, real high.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, he's real good. He's real good. I don't

515
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Speaker 3: think that the Santos fight was a great demons stration

516
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Speaker 3: of his to bring up the turnback upper bound abilities.

517
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Speaker 3: In this case, I thought it was a very you know,

518
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Speaker 3: I thought it was actually more the middle to the

519
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Speaker 3: last slash lower end of his game, and so for

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Speaker 3: that reason I do I think he beats John Jones

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Speaker 3: at two oh five. Now, who knows, I mean, Jones

522
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Speaker 3: could come back at heavyweight and be like completely rejuvenated

523
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Speaker 3: and whatnot. I don't know. I'm a little skeptical he's

524
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Speaker 3: gonna come back and not be good but just be

525
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Speaker 3: the dominating force that he was. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: on Calive beats him for sure.

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Speaker 4: Luke, are we like leaving money on the table by

528
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Speaker 4: not having RJ make upper bound limits MK merch t shirts?

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Speaker 3: Luke, you're better. You have a better read on that

530
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Speaker 3: stuff than I do. But probably probably all the little

531
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Speaker 3: stupid catch phrases that we have on the show, we

532
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Speaker 3: should probably monetize those if we can. Not that we

533
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Speaker 3: see a dime of it, but certainly.

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Speaker 4: Our j let's make money together, all right, Let's.

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Speaker 3: Make money, all right? B see point number two. Let's

536
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Speaker 3: move to it. Now we stay with the UFC card.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to read a list of names. These are

538
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Speaker 3: all winners. I want you to tell me which of

539
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Speaker 3: these winners on Saturday at the UFC event had the

540
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Speaker 3: biggest of the wins. So these again, these are all winners,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Span Tetsuro Tyra mean his UFC debut, Michael Johnson,

542
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Speaker 3: or who beat Alan Patrick, or Virna Jenji Rova who

543
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Speaker 3: beat Angela Hill? What do you think?

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Speaker 4: It's almost weird to answer it this way, but in

545
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Speaker 4: a low level way. The stakes were super high for

546
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Speaker 4: Michael Johnson, so for him to.

547
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Speaker 3: Come out here, it's the only answer.

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Speaker 4: Oh see. I looked at it more as sort of

549
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Speaker 4: the hipster potential best answer, but kind of curving in

550
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Speaker 4: from the outside you're saying, no, it's obvious. Well either way, Luke,

551
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Speaker 4: I mean, this was a return to form, and this

552
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 4: is such a dangerous time to be and when you've lost,

553
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Speaker 4: you know, four in a row, and your win loss

554
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Speaker 4: record of the last five six years is real bad.

555
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Speaker 4: Yet you're always dangerous, Yet you tend to always find

556
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Speaker 4: a way to come up short. And that's sort of

557
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Speaker 4: a Michael Johnson's run. And this just looked fresher pinpoint.

558
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Speaker 4: The power is obviously still there. I mean, Luke, that

559
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Speaker 4: first power shot he land had sort of changed the

560
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 4: tenor of that fight right away. And you know, obviously

561
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Speaker 4: it's weird to have a guy with basically a five

562
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Speaker 4: hundred record who has three or four wins that you know,

563
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Speaker 4: any Hall of Famer would want on the resume, and

564
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Speaker 4: he has those, But this looked like he could buy

565
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Speaker 4: himself some time like this looked like he may have

566
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Speaker 4: one more run in him. And what does that run

567
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Speaker 4: mean if it's just a run of being a tough

568
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Speaker 4: out against big names, even that you know is something there,

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Speaker 4: But there's no talk after this in my mind of Okay,

570
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Speaker 4: you know, this guy could be be BKFC tomorrow. I

571
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Speaker 4: think Luke, he could have one of those late career

572
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Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens type runs, you know, where you kind of

573
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Speaker 4: put it together for three four fights. I saw that

574
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Speaker 4: spark in him. Who knows Luke, but I saw that spark.

575
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Speaker 3: Dude, I completely agree. I mean, listen to these names

576
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Speaker 3: of who he has beaten in the UFC. Okay, he's

577
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Speaker 3: beaten Tony Ferguson, Danny Castillo, who, for folks who may

578
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: not know, was a very good fighter at tam Malfamel

579
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Speaker 3: is now a coach over there. He beat Joe Lazan,

580
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Speaker 3: Gleason Tebow, Melvin Gallard, eds Barboza, by the way, those

581
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Speaker 3: four in a fucking row, and he beat Melvin Glarden

582
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Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen, which was still late stage with Melvin

583
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Speaker 3: Glarden in terms of being good. But you get the

584
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: idea Dustin Parier, Andre Feeley, Ardam Lobov and now Alan Patrick. Dude,

585
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Speaker 3: those are like, those are all super legitimate wins. But

586
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Speaker 3: then you look at the losses and of course they

587
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: add up as well, and Miles Jurry and raise A

588
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Speaker 3: Madatti and Nate Diaz and Vianiel Daryush and then he

589
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: lost three in a row and never go made off

590
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Speaker 3: Gaegee Elkins. Okay, fair enough, it's the last one that

591
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: made you lose confidence, right, the last losing streak, because

592
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: it was Josh Emmont, who's very good, But then it

593
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Speaker 3: was Stevie Ray, who I don't even thinks in the

594
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Speaker 3: UFC anymore. I think he's over in Bellator, Thiago Moisas,

595
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Speaker 3: and then Clay Guida back in twenty twenty one, very

596
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 3: late stage Claig Gueda, and you thought, okay, well that's

597
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: got to be the end for Michael Johnson. Folks have asked, like,

598
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Speaker 3: how can his career be so up and down, so

599
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: weird in this particular way. The answer is, dude, like,

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Speaker 3: here's the truth about Michael Johnson his upper to go

601
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Speaker 3: back to it when he's at his best, Dude, he's

602
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Speaker 3: firing with the handspeed, and he's moving with his phenomenal footwork,

603
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Speaker 3: and he's in and out of range, and he's changing

604
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: angles on you. Yeah, dude, he'll light anybody on fire.

605
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 3: Go look at that Dustin Poarier fight. How did he

606
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: beat Dustin Poarier. Parier led with an uppercut and Michael

607
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: Johnson reacted just like that, fired a hook and knocked

608
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Speaker 3: him out. He was just incredible like that. You can't

609
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Speaker 3: make mistakes against Michael Johnson in that particular way. On

610
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Speaker 3: the other hand, BC, even a lone Patrick was able

611
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Speaker 3: to rock him in this fight a couple of times.

612
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Speaker 3: He got him kind of wobbly there a little bit.

613
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Speaker 3: It wasn't like he served it up for him, no problem.

614
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Speaker 3: But then how did Michael Johnson win four punch combination

615
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Speaker 3: off an angle change, got it, dropped it two hammer

616
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: fists closed the show, dude. Michael Johnson, Like the thing

617
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Speaker 3: about him that's so amazing is his offense is very, very,

618
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: very good, but his defense just has it carries with

619
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Speaker 3: it a lot of problems. It just carries with it

620
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Speaker 3: a lot of weight, and so it was hard to

621
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Speaker 3: know which one you're going to get a fight to fight.

622
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Speaker 3: The four in a row told you that maybe this

623
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Speaker 3: was kind of the end of it. This was a

624
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 3: huge win for Michael Johnson, rallying past being rocked, getting

625
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Speaker 3: a clear and concise finish, reminding people what he can

626
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Speaker 3: do when he's really dealing out there. I don't know

627
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: if this proves that his problems are behind him BC,

628
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: which I think is a separate question, but in terms

629
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Speaker 3: of the to your point, the magnitude of this win,

630
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Speaker 3: Man five in a row is usually walking papers in

631
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Speaker 3: the UFC, not for everyone, not all the time, but

632
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Speaker 3: usually this was a monster win by him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would necesariously would have been BKFC online one

634
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Speaker 4: had you not won this. And yet it wasn't just

635
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Speaker 4: the knockout. He looked fluid throughout, which was the thing.

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Speaker 3: Luke.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that the stigma of going, you know,

638
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: from being cut by the UFC directly to BKFC on

639
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: the last stop in the desert is the equivalent of

640
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: like finding out your buddy's new girlfriend used to strip.

641
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: Does it still have that level?

642
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Speaker 3: I don't even understand that your buddy's new girlfriend us

643
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: to ship. Why would you care?

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00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: Well, maybe you're a less judgmental person than most, or

645
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: maybe that bit of news could have excited you.

646
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: So why would I even care what my buddy's girlfriend

647
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: used to do?

648
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 6: Uh?

649
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: You know? Here?

650
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 4: Like is she still working? Now that's the question.

651
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: It's like BC, you used to work at you know,

652
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: the worst places on Earth. I haven't held that against you,

653
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: have editorially married you. You know what I'm saying.

654
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: Okay, So what stigma is what Luke is ultimately me?

655
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: See what do you make of that idea? Though? That

656
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: like Michael Johnson has a very Doctor Jekyl and mister

657
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: Hyde kind of game. His offense is phenomenal, but his

658
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: defense just keeps getting him in trouble.

659
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: Right absolutely, I mean it's and it's not like you know,

660
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: I always try to make like boxing a mere con equivalent.

661
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 4: It's not like, you know, it's because of his chin.

662
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: He just finds a way to lose or isn't well

663
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: rounded enough or focused enough or whatever it was that

664
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: that against really good competition are now in the last

665
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: most recent lost streak, as you mentioned, not so elite competition.

666
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes guys hit these ruts. The probably the

667
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 4: thing is a lot of times guys don't recover from

668
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 4: these ruts and then they're fighting in the carnival tent

669
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: with Noloe and that happens. But good to see him back.

670
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: Fun guy at all times. But Luke, who else on

671
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: that list do you think is in this conversation that

672
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: jumped through your screen from this card?

673
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a tough one, right because Ryan

674
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 3: Span he got mounted, got out of it, got taken down,

675
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: got out of it, and then threw on a trying

676
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: or not trying to excuse me, a guillotine on an

677
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 3: over zealous opponent in the way that kuter Laba we

678
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: have known him to be. So it's a very solid

679
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: win just for me. Doesn't match up to what Michael

680
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: Johnson did. Tetsuro Tyra had a very i would say

681
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: good performance, but it was his UFC debut. This is

682
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: not the same kind of stakes overall, though he showed

683
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: pretty strong overall ability. And then Jenji Robot like, dude,

684
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I have a lot of respect for Angela Hill,

685
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: and I think she's been robbed, not rob but you know,

686
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: the judges didn't get it right. A couple of times

687
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: in her career, and I think it's affected her record.

688
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: So that's a super solid win by her. And you know,

689
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 3: Angela Hill has tightened up some of the defensive liabelity

690
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: in the grappling department that she once had, like Jenji

691
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: Orba had to earn it. At the same time, though,

692
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: you know, just with the with the stakes that Michael

693
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 3: Johnson was facing here, it's just hard to put that

694
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: on the same level as him. That's where I come

695
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: down on those names. Do you disagree?

696
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 4: No, I agree with you on that one. I wanted

697
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: to actually add to this conversation just shout out everything

698
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: surrounding that Chukegian Heboss fight, because Luke, I remember questioning

699
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: the why are we making this fight again? But in

700
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: the end, not only was it a really fun fight

701
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: and worth your time, but I really love how both

702
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: fighters kind of looked coming out of it. It's like Jukegan,

703
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: you know, she just won't go away, and she got

704
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: the new deal and she's won what like four in

705
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: a row against elite names and she's still number one ranked,

706
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: and you know, this was a fun fight and aggressive

707
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 4: and a hard fought one, and she fought an action style,

708
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: which she doesn't normally want to do or typically do.

709
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 4: And you know, she showed that her technique, her timing

710
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: was the difference. And she probably does get back into

711
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: that Valentine a conversation even though you know there wasn't

712
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: anything to watch in their meeting. But it's it's gonna

713
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: be hard to deny her. On the other side, you

714
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, you could, you could a question

715
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: coming in why he Boss did this? Was it an

716
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: opportunistic sort of one off? Hey, if I could beat

717
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: the number one fighter, I could suddenly be right there

718
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: for a title shot. That from that standpoint, I have

719
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: a lot of respect that they took this fight and

720
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: that she emptied it and went for it in the

721
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: way she did. But Luke, unfortunately, because I love Amanda Heboss,

722
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: I learned that she's got to really tighten up some

723
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: elite parts of her game that are not elite, Like

724
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: she's got to tighten up the defense. And and they

725
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: mentioned it on the broadcast. You know, Chickagian's shots were

726
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: just so much just better technique, you know, right to

727
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: the point A to B. Heboss can can be moving

728
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 4: opening up her guard, she can loop in shots. I

729
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: think it's still there in either division for Hebos to

730
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 4: be someone and to be someone big maybe, but she's

731
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: farther away than I think I realized. In this fight

732
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: really exposed that to me, although it's her moving up

733
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: and wait and sort of you know, going for it.

734
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: And also her father was apparently saying she had here's

735
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: the thing, like, I'm not saying that he's wrong, but like,

736
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: great me if I'm wrong. Did her dad not say

737
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: that she had a full biceps tear in one of

738
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: her arms. I didn't hear that the entire time.

739
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 4: I didn't hear that in double check that that could

740
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: be a big part of it. And also I don't

741
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 4: want to miss that it was a split decision and

742
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 4: that there's a lot of people that thought he Boss won.

743
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: I think you can make an argument, but I guess

744
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 4: my point is, even though this would have been a

745
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: monster win and could have put he Boss in position

746
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: for a title shot at one twenty five, I can

747
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 4: see how great she has the potential to be. I

748
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: don't know if she gets there, though, Luke, because she

749
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 4: got pieced up at and you know, in key moments

750
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 4: in this way.

751
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So I mean I listen I'm no medical doctor,

752
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: but apparently her father says she suffered a total rupture

753
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: of the biceps tendon. Wow. Well, here's the thing about that. Like, again, dude,

754
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: I'm not a doctor. I have no idea if that

755
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: is true at all. Please, like, let's see whatever the

756
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: doctor has to say about that. I'm also not saying

757
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: she didn't have an injury. Here's the only thing I

758
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 3: would say about that. I've seen a lot of bicep tears,

759
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: and like what a to someone Matt Sarah has that

760
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: where it completely MisShapes the bicep because you get a

761
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 3: tear here the bicep tendon is that one at the little

762
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: that the very hard one rightther crook of your elbow

763
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: or in the center of it where you bend, And

764
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: if that tears, the whole muscle comes up a little

765
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: bit because there's literally nothing holding it to the bone.

766
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: Her arms look normal. So I don't know if it

767
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: was like a partial tear, which case, by the way,

768
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: would still be a very commendable effort, or I just

769
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: don't know what I'm talking about, which is also quite possible.

770
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: I'm just saying like I've seen a bunch of them,

771
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: and it's very obviously different. It looks malformed. Her arms

772
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: do not look malformed. Whatever that is worth.

773
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, interesting, that could certainly play a big role in it.

774
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: And look, I mean she fought a gritty effort, you know.

775
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: I just it's got some things to fix, but we'll

776
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: give her time. I mean, look, do you do you

777
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 4: agree though that? Like there's something about Chukegan. Maybe it's

778
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: the fact that she went to decision so often, but

779
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 4: it's like no one really wants her to get back

780
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 4: in this position. But she's hair Luke and she's.

781
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: A problem for the UFC. Do you listen to her wins?

782
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 3: She has wins over Lauren Murphy, Ida n A El Donna,

783
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: let's see, Mara Romero, Borella. I don't know how you

784
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: pronounce her name because she's Italian. I think whatever Alexis Davis,

785
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: Joan Calderwood, Jennifer Maya, Antonina Chevchenko, Cynthey Calvijo, at vvn

786
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: al Rujao, Jennifer Maya again, and then Amanda Hebos. Granted

787
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 3: this one was a split. Almost all of these are splits.

788
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Let's see or decision. Excuse me. Yeah, In fact, I

789
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 3: don't know she has a UFC stoppage on her record.

790
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, yeah, she does not. I

791
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: don't think so to that point. That's why people aren't

792
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: necessarily high on her. But BC is here's the basic question.

793
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: Is she capable of beating routinely elite opposition? Yes, yes

794
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: she is. She matter of factly is. The record is

795
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: not ambiguous in that regard. The record doesn't say that

796
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: she's the very best in this weight class, but it

797
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 3: does say she is a fucking handful for basically everybody else.

798
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: She's got to figure out what to do with that.

799
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 4: It's definitely the decisions. And I think the other part

800
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: of it is, like for somebody who's proving to be

801
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 4: elite herself, because she's beating everyone else who's trying to

802
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: become elite, we don't give her a chance against Valentina.

803
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 4: And that's also you know, rough time to be climbing

804
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 4: the ladder when you have an all time great ahead

805
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: of you, like Valentina is freaking amazing. But Luke, she

806
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: doesn't have a path to victory like at all, like

807
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like not even in ways

808
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: that like Jennifer Maya competed or that, andrage you know,

809
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 4: we thought could have, although she got demolished, Like, I

810
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: don't think you can really give Chakegian, you know, much

811
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 4: of a chance against her. Is that being too harsh, Luke?

812
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it is too It's like, okay,

813
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 3: so this one was a fight of the night because

814
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: this was a great fight. So you like that she's

815
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 3: upping the ante a little bit. But it's like, okay,

816
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: so since she lost, since she lost to Valentina. She

817
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: beat Antonina, which I'm sure broke your heart. Then she

818
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: got TKO inside of a round by Jessica Androge, and

819
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: then of course she beats Cynthia, Vivian Jennifer and then

820
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: Amanda Heboss most recently. So dude, those are like a

821
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: that's a super solid four fight win streak that she's on.

822
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 3: But it's like, what in the course of that told

823
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: you things would be different the next time with Valentina.

824
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that it wouldn't be, but I personally

825
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 3: didn't see anything that would make me believe a second

826
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: fight would go a whole lot differently.

827
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 4: If you didn't, if Valentina was so dominant that they said, okay,

828
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 4: instead of defending your title against one, there's gonna be

829
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: three fighters. It's gonna be Calvi Ivan, Sorry, it's gonna

830
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 4: be uh Jessica I, Lauren Murphy, and Chikegian And they

831
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 4: each fight one round against Valentina and if they get finished,

832
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: they just go to the next round of the next opponent.

833
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: Does Valentina go three and oh that night, Luke?

834
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 3: Probably? Probably. I think she's just that much better than

835
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: all of them, which is which is crazy because those

836
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: other women are great, but are good enough anyway, And no,

837
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: I know, I think I think Valentina. I mean, I

838
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: think it is possible for a number one contender to

839
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: take a round from her, maybe even two if it

840
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: goes to a decision. That's it. That's the most I

841
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: could grant anyone else in that division at this present time.

842
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: It's crazy that we're saying that because we just watched

843
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 4: paynya upset newness in a way that like, dude, of any.

844
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: Scenario, Chirchenka was so much more careful than no.

845
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: I know, but like in any scenario if you were like, oh, yeah,

846
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: Paya's gonna pull the upset and she's gonna stand and

847
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: brawl with Amanda until Amanda, you know, goes down and

848
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: succumbs and kind of just tabs. No, I never would

849
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 4: have believed that, But yes, I think Valentine is just

850
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 4: a little bit different. Damn she I mean, I don't know.

851
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: People hate goat debates. Valentin Amanda up. The goat is

852
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 4: one day, is all I'm saying, Luke.

853
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, all right, See let's move to point

854
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: number three here. Now this was a weird one. I

855
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: didn't hate this as much as everybody else did. Maybe

856
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: it's because I've been high on Logan Story for a

857
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: little bit longer than some folks. But Michael Venampage and

858
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 3: Logan Story fought in the main event of Belator London.

859
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: This was on Showtime on Friday afternoon. Logan storly wins. Now,

860
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 3: of course, what this means is he'll have an eventual

861
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 3: rematch with Arslov Amasov, who is the reigning welterweight champion.

862
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: But there's some dispute about this pc because Bellatour president

863
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: Scott Coker afterwards saying, well, I actually thought MVP should

864
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: have one, because yes, Story had much better wrestling about that,

865
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: there is no debate, but the argument would be that

866
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: he didn't do enough ground and pound or you know,

867
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: positional advancement with the ground and pound to really make

868
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: it count. Do you agree with Scott Coker? Is MVP

869
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: the actual rightful winner of this contest?

870
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 4: Yeah? He is, Luke, and I and I'm somebody who

871
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 4: it took a while for me to come around on that.

872
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: And what do I mean by that. I was somebody

873
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: who comes from boxing, and we're kind of judging MMA

874
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: fights with a boxing mindset where some of these categories

875
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 4: are more even, and you're looking at sort of five

876
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 4: points of discussion rather than a descending order with aggression

877
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 4: and damage as your you know, number one focuses in

878
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: that regard. Yes, MVP should have won this fight. Coker's right,

879
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: Aaron Bronsteadter and Sean Sheehan and everybody else Twitter who's

880
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 4: going nuts about it, they're right, They're right. I came around.

881
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 4: I realize it now too. MVP did enough in the

882
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 4: beginning of most of these rounds to have that argument

883
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: because when your boy logan story took him down and

884
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: it was the right strategic move, but there was just

885
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: no intention to inflict damage. And sometimes, Luke, people just

886
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: feel activity, whether they're on the top or bottom, just

887
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: to show the judges. Look, I'm doing something. There wasn't

888
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: even that, you know. I know that he was trying

889
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: to advance positions to set that up. I get that

890
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 4: he's not just out there thinking lay and prey is

891
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: the only way. But it got lay and prey ish

892
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 4: and we are on the title level here. So this

893
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: disparity that we have in rule changes in MMA and

894
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 4: the way it leads to judging. And you know, I

895
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: finally stopp being ignorant came around, like we got to

896
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: get every commission aligned and every judge's mind and training aligned,

897
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: and even those in the media and fans subset as well,

898
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: because you know, I never wanted to agree with it,

899
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: but they're right. Logan slowly did shit with the position

900
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: he got. Luke, you can't win it. You can't want

901
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: to fight on that on the chat.

902
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: I don't think he did shit, but I would agree

903
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 3: that he didn't do enough. The fact that the argument

904
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: that he did nothing is not quite true.

905
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you could argue MVP was busier on the

906
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: bottom offensively than Logan was with that.

907
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: Position, maybe in certain rounds.

908
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: Except for round five. Logan was good in Round five,

909
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 4: aggressive middle of the cage intention with the ground and pound.

910
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: There's no debate over that.

911
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: Round, right. That one was a good round and round

912
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: four was clearly MVP's round. It's the first three where

913
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 3: you're like, well, which way would this go? Now? I'm

914
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: gonna like Scott Hooker's in an unenviable position because Dany

915
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: gets killed for this too. But I don't know what

916
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: the right answer is supposed to be, Like, what do

917
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: you want from the promoter? Do you want the promoter

918
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: to back the guy, the hometown guy and just take

919
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: his you know, take his side and then promote it,

920
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 3: or do you want the promoter to be honest? Now

921
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: in this case, the two could be aligned, or depending

922
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 3: one's perspective, they could be not aligned. But like, what

923
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: do you want from a promoter when and the wrong

924
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: guy wins? What's the right answer for they should?

925
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 4: Do you want honesty? It's just you You typically assume

926
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 4: you're not gonna get it because promoters are you know,

927
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: professional used car salesmen, and their whole setup of everything

928
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: has to be calculated and with the intention of selling

929
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: and you know, and attracting attention and all that. But

930
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: I think why people tend to really like Scott Oker

931
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 4: is because for the most part, you feel like you're

932
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 4: getting honesty, and I think this was just him being honest.

933
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 4: I don't think this was well corporately. We would have preferred,

934
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: you know, MVP to have one and then we can

935
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: do MVP AMSOV and it'd be a big deal. No,

936
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: I think he was just being honest, and I think

937
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 4: those are the moments that people just chase from data

938
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 4: and so rarely ever get luke Okay.

939
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: So there's two big stories here as far as I

940
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: can tell. One is the scoring, and I agree that

941
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: in general the positional control of Storly was admirable but

942
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: insufficient by itself or with whatever, you know, fairly minimal

943
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: ground pound he was able to get. I don't know

944
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: if I would give all three of the rounds to VP.

945
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: I'd have to go back and look, but certainly I would.

946
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: I grant that there were three rounds for him there,

947
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: and that should be quite clear. So that's one part

948
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 3: of the story. But b C people are missing the

949
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: second part of this story, which is I hope you

950
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: dullards out there can learn to appreciate Israel ATASNYA after

951
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: this different organization, different weight class. But look at what

952
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: he does two significant differences. Number one, his ability to

953
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: break off the fence and reset the fight in the

954
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: middle of the cage to make it a striking contest

955
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: again is again different fighters, different organizations, different worlds, but

956
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: vastly superior to MVP's ability to do that number one.

957
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: Number Two, even if he gets taken down, his threat

958
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 3: off of his back with either sweeps or attacks from

959
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: submissions either creates space or he gets on top, or

960
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. He is so much more

961
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: dynamic in these positions. I know everyone wants to make

962
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: the story about Logan story he didn't do enough. Fine,

963
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even disagree with you, he didn't really do enough,

964
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: but okay, it is what it is. The Other part

965
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: of the story, though, is that MVP this was his

966
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: what twenty first or twenty second MMA fight and BC.

967
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty clear, as we said on Friday,

968
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: that there is still a reputation that I don't think

969
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: fits him, because he has vastly improved since the days

970
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: where he was fighting nobody's he could easily beat like

971
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: he gave. He arguably beat Logan Storley, who is a

972
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: very very good fighter. I think that should be recognized.

973
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: If you're complaining about the scoring, what you're saying is

974
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: MVP is better than this guy and the other guy

975
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: is extremely good, so that whole can crusher thing. I'm

976
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: not saying it didn't happen. I just don't think it

977
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: represents the reality now. But even with that BC, I

978
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: hope people can look at the UFC middleweight champion, who

979
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: is a very similar frame and gets attacked in very

980
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: similar kinds of ways. Look at the difference of what

981
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: he is able to do to extricate himself or weaponize

982
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: the position in ways that MVP, who is as good

983
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: as anybody else that wiltorweight division, simply cannot do that.

984
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: To me, is somewhat being lost a little bit here.

985
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: Of what you're saying in the end is right, You're right.

986
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: I mean we're not comparing MVP and out of Sonya,

987
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 4: and in the points you're making on what Auta Sonya

988
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: has done to separate himself in some of these situations.

989
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 4: He's grown and learned from it, but he also had

990
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 4: to learn from it, Luke, in my opinion, because Auta

991
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 4: Sonya left, you know, said to the judges against Romero,

992
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 4: here's my art project. Judge it all you want decide

993
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 4: whether I'm keeping this title.

994
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 3: Then people disregard the leg kicks like MVP doesn't he

995
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: led kicks a little.

996
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: But your point is out of Sonya versus MVP, you

997
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 4: win the debate. But the out of Sonya argument still

998
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 4: had some holes. I wanted to point that out, and

999
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: I think that why I need to point it out

1000
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: is because that's exactly what MVP did in this fight,

1001
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: and that upset me. He did what I said I

1002
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: saw out of Sonya do against Romero, which is, Look,

1003
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 4: it's the title fight. It's the biggest fight of your life.

1004
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: You can't leave no doubt and I know we'll BC.

1005
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: How do you say that he's getting taken down, he

1006
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: can't get up. Okay, I get that, I get the

1007
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 4: obstacle he was against. But even in the starts of

1008
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: the fourth and fifth, and I know this is why

1009
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: people make the argument for open scoring, so that at

1010
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: least the fighters can know. And I'm saying, hold on,

1011
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: I still want my entertainment and the suspense and the unknown,

1012
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: But shouldn't the fighter also realize the stakes and realize

1013
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: what he needs to do to prevent this from happening?

1014
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 4: Where he loses such a close decision. I didn't love

1015
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: that overall lack of urgency. I know that some of

1016
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 4: that is just his style, you know. It's like I'm

1017
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: gonna do my art project and it's up to you

1018
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: to decipher if you can understand it. I get mad

1019
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: at some Cuban boxers sometimes who are so beautiful, but

1020
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: they don't put the pressure on with it. I just

1021
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: as much as I thought Paige should have one, even

1022
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: if he had one, I still think we would come

1023
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 4: out of this fight going I don't know if we

1024
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: really learned everything.

1025
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 3: I'll just say this too, as like a general rule,

1026
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: if you really want to win at the elite level,

1027
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: and I would consider MVP and Logan storrely elite fighters.

1028
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 3: You can say wherever they would fall in the UFC's

1029
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: walterweight division, but they're good. They would beat good fighters

1030
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: in that division. Somewhere along the line. You need more

1031
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: than one way to win. You need more than one

1032
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: way to win. I've knocked UFC Middleway Champion is a

1033
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: lot of sign your that a little bit, but he

1034
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 3: is able to make it work, especially at middleweight obviously,

1035
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 3: where he's undefeated by virtue of these facts that I

1036
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: have brought up. He has excellent takedown defense for the

1037
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: most part, certainly today, he can extricate himself off the fence.

1038
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: He has good clinch breaking, and then underneath he has

1039
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: good guard attacks and sweeps and whatnot. Like he really

1040
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: gets busy with that, and so you can see that

1041
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: that has weaponized these other positions that MVP has not.

1042
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: But Logan Storley he was able to like strike his

1043
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 3: way through Neman Gracie. That was winning a different way

1044
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: and he sort of wrestled his way here. For the

1045
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: elite fighters out there, you should really pay attention to this.

1046
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: Who is able to win a fight genuinely, genuinely in

1047
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: multiple different ways. This is why Charles Olivera is such

1048
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 3: a fucking THREATBC. Right, we're talking about different fighter, different organization,

1049
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 3: but again it goes back to it. He can beat

1050
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: you anywhere on the floor for the most part. I mean,

1051
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: we'll see about that, but you know, certainly he is

1052
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: very gifted there on the feet now is very gifted,

1053
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: and the clinch is very gifted duty He's just a

1054
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: complete offensive machine in all these dimensions. And you're seeing

1055
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: now today ABC very good fighters, elite ones guys able

1056
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: to get very far up the list, but they've only

1057
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: really got one way to win. The guys who are

1058
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: gonna separate themselves from the pack are gonna be the

1059
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: guys who or the ladies who have genuinely multiple ways

1060
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: to win a fight against even other elite opposition. And

1061
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: I think if they're missing that, they're gonna have some problems.

1062
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 3: Although you could make that argument about Logan story.

1063
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 4: I was just gonna make that argument. I was gonna

1064
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 4: put him under that same microscope and say that I

1065
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: think your breakdown is perfect in regards to story, though.

1066
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: Was it a case of not having that second way

1067
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: to win or was it a case in your eyes,

1068
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 4: not minding your eyes of story looking at the equation

1069
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: in front of him? If he stood in trade with

1070
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 4: MVP and he didn't get pieced up enough to get

1071
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: the feel of what's coming that it would you know,

1072
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 4: he wouldn't have a chance to win the title. So

1073
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 4: was this just the smart strategic way to go? Even

1074
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: if if I thought he didn't do anything on top.

1075
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: I wonder that could be. That could be I also

1076
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: wonder like the Nieman Gracie fight was pretty brutal and

1077
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: was not that long ago. I wonder if he's still

1078
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: feeling the effects of it a little bit, like how

1079
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 3: brutal it was, and how long it was and how difficult,

1080
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: and how many times he had to kind of dig

1081
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: deep and like, you know, like you can't do that

1082
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: all the time. Those are special moments for a reason.

1083
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: You can't just be automatic with it. I kind of

1084
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 3: wonder if he was feeling good, because this this was

1085
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: not the fight that they had scheduled, but we all

1086
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: sort of known, you know, Amasava was supposed to be

1087
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: the guy. But I wonder if he's I wonder if

1088
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: there's a little bit I'll say, this was there a

1089
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: little bit of nim and gracie, brutality of that fight

1090
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 3: hangover a little bit. I kind of wonder about that,

1091
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna do just enough of what I need

1092
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 3: to win a virtue of how MVP fights, And also

1093
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: like maybe he was still feeling a little bit. It's

1094
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: hard to say. We'd have to have bad news.

1095
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 4: And this isn't me hating on Logan so early. I

1096
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 4: love the guy, but the bad news is, you know,

1097
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: the difficulty of the striking and the opponents you face

1098
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 4: will get a lot worse than Gracy, you know, for

1099
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: the most part from here on out, although he fought

1100
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 4: Amisov like nobody has before it. So if our reward

1101
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 4: for all this is the Amasof rematch, then then look,

1102
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 4: that's fantastic. I still think MVP can regroup get himself

1103
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 4: back into a second title opportunity. But you know, this

1104
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 4: is still gonna be a very fun road because their

1105
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 4: first match, as we glowed about all the time and say,

1106
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: I mean, it's one of the best fights in Belator history.

1107
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: For a damn reason. I'm excited that just in principle

1108
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: about what this rematch could be because when Amasof does

1109
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 4: come back, you know, to just assume that, you know

1110
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 4: what I mean, you transition from the front lines back

1111
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 4: to the fight game. It's just gonna be you know,

1112
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: with ease, it would be ignorant. Who knows the timeframe,

1113
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 4: you know, I'm making that transition back and the mental

1114
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 4: you know, journey of that as well. So I hope

1115
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 4: we get it soon, but you know, I hope to.

1116
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 4: I hope it, Luke. You know, so this is Christmas

1117
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: War is over? Okay, Luke? Please we a right?

1118
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: Well, last thing on this though, Like I remember watching

1119
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: the Amasof fight was Storly. When it happened, it was

1120
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: super close. Please don'tmost understand me. It was very close.

1121
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 3: But I remember when the round the fight was over

1122
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: because I was kind of thinking, like, oh, Storly, like,

1123
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: you know, four time All American, He's gonna win this dude,

1124
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 3: Amasof beat him there, you know what I mean Amasof

1125
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 3: When I remember when I think what I I had,

1126
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: it was I had Amasof winning the first, Storly winning

1127
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 3: the second, and then Amasov winning the third, And it

1128
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 3: was like because there was only three round fight. This

1129
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 3: was before they had made all the changes or wherever

1130
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: it took place in the car, and it was only

1131
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: three round contest. But the point IM trying to make is,

1132
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 3: I remember when that fight was over, I'm like, I

1133
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: think story got out wrestled, dude. This is the pun

1134
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 3: trying to make, like, we'll see what happens with Amasov

1135
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 3: coming back to the front lines of what this all

1136
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: does for his development. But the reality from the first

1137
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: fight was, like, dude, you the wrestling wasn't enough. It

1138
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 3: wasn't enough. Amasov was able to match it and then

1139
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: slightly exceed it through the course of three rounds this

1140
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: is what I mean. I'm going back to you need

1141
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: you like it's very easy. It's very very easy for

1142
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 3: me to say, you know, you need multiple ways to

1143
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 3: win a fight, because if you're thinking about building your game,

1144
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: it actually makes a lot of sense to kind of

1145
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: drill down on one, you know, major aspect when all

1146
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: the little intricacies they're in like just standing or you know,

1147
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: just grappling or whatever, and then to build a game

1148
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: in that way. But the realities with Habib, for example,

1149
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 3: it was just one way in the sense of it

1150
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 3: was just mostly grappling, but he had submission threats and

1151
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 3: he had ground and pound threats, so there actually was

1152
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: a couple of different ways going on there. With with

1153
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: Logan Storley, wrestling is everything that he does. But like,

1154
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: you can't rely on that either against Amasov because the

1155
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 3: first time they met Amasov was it was slight, but

1156
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: he was the better one of the two. It's not

1157
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: like that's an ace in the hole that's going to

1158
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: be here for them for him anyway.

1159
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: No, I agree with that. Indeed, Amasov is a badass dude,

1160
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 4: absolute badass. We'll see Luke going forward. Is there anything

1161
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: else in this card that we missed. I mean there

1162
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: were some bangers shout out to Fabian Edwards getting that

1163
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 4: getting that big Leon's brother getting that big knockout Luke.

1164
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say that was that Fabian or

1165
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 3: Fabian Edwards just bulldozing off the clinch break Leoda Machita

1166
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: hitting him with a vicious elbow in the clinch. Now,

1167
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: I gotta pull up Macheeda's record here. I don't have

1168
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: it just right now. I'll find it in the second

1169
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 3: but here, actually, I'll pull it up now. Leoda Micheita is,

1170
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 3: by the way, forty three years old. He was born

1171
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: before me. If you can believe that, that's how old

1172
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 3: he is. And he's on a four fight losing streak.

1173
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: He lost a split to Gey Guard, no big deal,

1174
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: then lost a split to Phil okay, no big deal.

1175
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 3: Then lost a decision to Ryan Bader, which, okay, three

1176
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: in a row is not great, but at.

1177
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 4: The end of the one it was a split decision.

1178
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: No, it was unanimous with Bader, it was unanimous, okay,

1179
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 3: And then he gets crushed by Fabbia Edwards. Now, Fabbian Edwards,

1180
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: I admit on Friday Show I underrated him a bit.

1181
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: He that was really great what he showed, and I

1182
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 3: will adjust my opinion accordingly based on what he turned in.

1183
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: But four fights in a row, be see forty three

1184
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 3: years old. You could say, oh, he wasn't getting blown

1185
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: out before, but now he gets blown out. What he's

1186
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 3: supposed to make of that?

1187
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: No, I mean it is what it is. The age

1188
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: in the consecutive defeats, it's you know, it's against this competition.

1189
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 4: It's over, and it might be over overall. It probably

1190
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 4: should be. But you know, this was about Edwards bouncing

1191
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 4: back from those two defeats and re establishing himself off

1192
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 4: as a tough out. And you know, it was good

1193
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 4: to see that. It was good to see the the

1194
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 4: emotion come out of him afterwards and hearing him talk

1195
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 4: about the journey to get back here. But this was

1196
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 4: a big win. And even if it came against the

1197
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 4: guy who's who's not only on the way out, this

1198
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 4: is probably it, Luke, it's still a you know, a

1199
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 4: big name on your resume, and in the manner in

1200
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 4: which he did it, it was a good, good bounce back.

1201
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 3: But you mentioned from this card, by the way, as well,

1202
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: Denise Kilholtz losing via triangle, which was somewhat surprising. I

1203
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: gotta say, Paul Daily ending his career with an absolutely

1204
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: vicious ko over Wendel or Vendel Giacomo BC at four

1205
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 3: o nine of the second round. You gotta be kidding

1206
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: me with this one. Did you see the Gray Book?

1207
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? It was storybook. It was like Kobe going for

1208
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 4: sixty in his final game, you know, rip Luke. It

1209
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 4: was like, this is the most Paul Daily thing to do. Go,

1210
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 4: you know, go down on the cards against a guy

1211
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 4: who's trying to you know, use your name to make

1212
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 4: himself and you rally and land the big blow. And

1213
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 4: it wasn't one punch, it was too but it was

1214
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: just so perfect and so brutal, like only Paul Daily does.

1215
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 4: Luke Semtex always had, you know, supernatural power mixed with

1216
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 4: the desire to go through anything against anyone, and it's

1217
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: produced so many memorable fights, even if you know, you

1218
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 4: look back. He got a raw deal by the UFC

1219
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 4: h never never being allowed back in, but you know,

1220
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 4: considering the aggression, the uh, the the missteps of others,

1221
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: but he put together one of those like damn, do

1222
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 4: I love and respect this guy type of careers, even

1223
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 4: with what like twenty losses. Basically in the end, it

1224
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: doesn't matter.

1225
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 3: Luke, No, I've been looking at this finish here goal

1226
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 3: Lee Due that was just I mean, you know, it

1227
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 3: wasn't just a spectacular win. It was vintage Semtex as well.

1228
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: You know, he's a little bit more of the left

1229
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 3: hook guy, but still just the same, just you know,

1230
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: blasting someone. They fall faced first and then he walks off.

1231
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: You gotta love it for him, and I'm glad Scott

1232
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: Hooker found a place for him even though Dana White

1233
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: couldn't after the whole Josh Koshtchik incident. He has been

1234
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: a fixture of my mind, i MMA fandom and experience,

1235
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: and he had a great career. He had, you know,

1236
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 3: a lot of ups, a lot of downs, but he

1237
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 3: had a great career the whole way through. So shouts

1238
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 3: to Paul Della also BC. I'll just add real quickly,

1239
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 3: Daniel Weischel beating Rob Whiteford one twelve into the first

1240
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: round via tk O. Daniel Weischel the consistent measure of

1241
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: whether you're elite or not at Bellator, still out there

1242
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 3: turning in quality wins.

1243
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 4: Thirty seven, thirty seven. He's doing some Jim Miller type

1244
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: stuff right now. Shout out to him. That was that

1245
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 4: was great to see.

1246
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: Luke. Uh, look, that was not a buggy choke in

1247
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: the oliver In camp. It was an inverted triangle.

1248
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: So absolutely no, there was. There was some good stuff

1249
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 4: on the on the undercards they're leading up to it,

1250
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 4: and it didn't seem like a good aggressive crowd. Luke

1251
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 4: Beltour knows how to how to uh you know, build

1252
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 4: the events in Europe. Well, but that doesn't this car

1253
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 4: feel like it was two weeks ago just because it.

1254
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 3: Was Friday after? It really does? It really does? All right,

1255
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: let's move on here to point number four. Let's talk

1256
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: about little bit of boxing that happened over the weekend.

1257
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: Incredible fight. Incredible fight. Damel Charlows stops Brian on you

1258
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: in the tenth round. He not only unifies the belts

1259
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: between them, he is now the undisputed single belt holder

1260
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 3: all four belts, first one in the modern era. Obviously

1261
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: Winky Right in the three belt era, but since Winky

1262
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 3: Right first one in the four belt era. Incredible. So

1263
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: let me start the conversation this WAYBC Charlo got all

1264
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: four belts in this weight class by stopping his opponents

1265
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: in all four of those bouts. Does he belong in

1266
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 3: the pound for pound rankings?

1267
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 4: Now? I think he does. This was the performance that

1268
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 4: a lot of us who have had him in the

1269
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: honorable mention or other receiving votes category in the you

1270
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 4: know as it put as it is, to the top

1271
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 4: ten of the pound for pound rankings. For a long time,

1272
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 4: we've wanted this, we've needed this because we've known it

1273
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 4: was in him, Luke, the well roundedness. But what this

1274
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 4: time went with that well roundedness. Look, Jamal Charlie Jamel.

1275
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: Charlo always has the snarl, he always fights with the

1276
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 4: chip on his shoulder. But this was different, dude, This

1277
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 4: was grown ass man shit Luke. This this was that

1278
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: gear we needed to see so he no longer gets entangled.

1279
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 4: In the loss to Tony Harrison that was very disputed,

1280
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 4: and boy did he come back and avenge that by knockout.

1281
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: And now the draw the first time round against Castano,

1282
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 4: which we all kind of thought it was a Charlo loss.

1283
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: This is how you fix that that issue. The issue

1284
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 4: is never about the ability, even if he's if he's

1285
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 4: become more slugger than boxer in his prime run here,

1286
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 4: but Luke he didn't you know, out hustle or out box.

1287
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: He outfought the bully in Brian Castano here and that's

1288
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: the difference between what happened the first time around last

1289
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: year and what happened right here. Is he pound for

1290
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 4: pound ability? Yes, I think now he has the win

1291
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 4: where you want to put him in there nine to

1292
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: ten wherever you you know, you feel, yeah, he's of

1293
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 4: that ilk now, Luke, he's one of my favorite fighters

1294
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 4: in this game to watch, even if he can be

1295
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 4: a roller coaster of emotions and sometimes performances, but this

1296
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: seemed to be that dialed in performance that that frankly,

1297
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 4: we've been waiting for, even with the knockout of Rosario

1298
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 4: to unify belts, you've still been waiting for one of

1299
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 4: those start to finish, Like I'm gonna go in there

1300
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 4: and handle my business. The thing is, Luke, I think so.

1301
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 4: I've always thought he's been better than he realized. And

1302
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 4: that sounds dumb because like he talks a big game, right,

1303
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 4: both Charlo's they're they're very good marketers and they're there,

1304
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: they boast a lot. But the belief in every part

1305
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 4: of his game was was the reason I think he

1306
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 4: won this fight.

1307
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: It was next level, dude. You know what's amazing to

1308
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 3: me is if you show the highlight one more time

1309
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: of how that's by way just a brilliant short left hook.

1310
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: I mean, super accurate, because if you look at the

1311
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 3: hand of Castano, it's up. It just comes right in

1312
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 3: front and then tags him along like maybe the side

1313
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 3: of the face, even the temple line. But that's not

1314
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 3: even the point I wanted to make. The point I

1315
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: wanted to make was look where the fight was at

1316
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: that moment in time. Castano had backed Charlo up to

1317
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: the ropes, and Charlo was trying to fight inside. But

1318
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 3: the difference was he was fighting on the inside. He

1319
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: was brawling rounds four to six, right, But at this

1320
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 3: point the fight, this is round ten, what you see

1321
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: from him is much more scientific, fighting on the inside,

1322
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: at times wrapping up with Brian Castano, at times pushing

1323
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 3: him away, much better about lateral movement. This time he

1324
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 3: got trapped along the ropes and he was constantly looking

1325
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 3: for that left hook over the top dude, or you know,

1326
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 3: in this case it was right in front, but he

1327
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: was constantly looking for he was waiting to feel the

1328
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 3: right from Brian Castino so that he could come right

1329
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 3: over the top of it. Remember it hurt him in

1330
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: the second round of the first fight. Dude, this was

1331
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: he to me. Charlo won the first three. I agree

1332
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: with Steve Farhood's scorecard. He won the first three. Kastano

1333
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: won the next three, So you're through six. It's about even.

1334
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 3: Charlo could have won that fight with the way he

1335
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 3: won from seven on, which was jabbing, keeping distance, slowing

1336
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 3: down the output of Castano. But he did. He was

1337
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 3: winning the rounds. But in this moment, Gastangyo was trying

1338
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: to reassert himself and Charlo was still better. Charlo beat

1339
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 3: Castano in the phase of the game where Castanio is

1340
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: considered to be his best throwing combinations high guard, backing

1341
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 3: you up against the ropes. That is where Charlo took

1342
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: his belt from him, at the very center of where

1343
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: Kastanio excels. You can. I mean, if that doesn't put

1344
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: him on the pound for pound list, what the fuck

1345
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 3: does I mean?

1346
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, man, the intention. When I said

1347
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: Logan Sterley didn't show enough of the intention. I went

1348
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: back and rewatched this fight, Luke. The first two rounds.

1349
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 4: It's like Charlo stood there and basically said, without saying

1350
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 4: to Castanio that when you crossed that line and try

1351
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 4: to pin me to the ropes, I'm fighting my way out.

1352
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 4: That type of consistent infliction of intention was not there

1353
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 4: in the first fight. There were you know it was.

1354
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: It was Charlo at times trying to, like always like

1355
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 4: it does, look for the perfect shot that could change

1356
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 4: the fight. This time it was Charlo not worrying it. Look,

1357
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 4: there were times he throw he threw you know, poorly

1358
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 4: tech technique hulks, because this was a fight. The fact

1359
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 4: that he committed to the fight part of it and

1360
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 4: the commitment of that intention. You're right, he stood up

1361
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 4: to the greatest skill Kastano had and said I can

1362
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 4: still beat you heads up with this and not He wasn't.

1363
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: He wasn't doing it to show off. That's the way

1364
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 4: you have to beat bullies like this. You got to

1365
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 4: stand up to them and show them that you can

1366
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 4: take what they have, but you're gonna be better. And

1367
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: Luke he was better. I don't know how I saw

1368
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 4: Coppinger had Kastano ahead at the time of the stoppage.

1369
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: I had at six rounds to three. I don't I

1370
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 4: don't see how you could.

1371
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: I think all judges had Charlo up at the time

1372
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 3: of the stoppage of memory, Sir, I.

1373
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 4: Don't see how you could have Kastano up, even though

1374
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: I really loved his effort and his adjustments and I

1375
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 4: loved everything about it. But look, when you really look

1376
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 4: at you know, the replays after each round, Charlo's ability

1377
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 4: to do things like sidestep and throw the hook to

1378
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 4: the body like there were there were nuances added to

1379
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 4: his game. Along with that added aggression and intention and

1380
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 4: anytime the you know, the play didn't work and it

1381
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 4: was time to fight. The fact that Charlo stood in

1382
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 4: there and banged. I mean the end of round four,

1383
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 4: that ten seconds was like you know, I mean, that

1384
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 4: was like an afrodisiac luke. And then the end of

1385
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: round five they did it again for like thirty seconds.

1386
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 4: They both dug in committed to what was coming at them.

1387
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 4: But Charlo's defense was really good.

1388
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 6: I know.

1389
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 4: He ended up going on a huge rant at the

1390
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 4: press conference about this. It was aimed at Coppinger. More

1391
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 4: on that to come and have you seen the shit

1392
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 4: part of that ran did?

1393
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 3: He killed Coppinger too. I didn't see this.

1394
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was. It was a murder. But

1395
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 4: part of the rant was, you know, he looked at

1396
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 4: Coppinger and was like, you're a fan boy. You've never

1397
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 4: been in there. You don't realize that I'm I'm you know,

1398
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 4: moving with these shots, and Luke, I really focused on

1399
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 4: Charlo's defense on the rewatch and a lot of those exchanges. Man,

1400
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 4: Kastania's just not touching him clean and Charlo's coming right

1401
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 4: back with bombs. So even though the punch stats showed

1402
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: Kastanio was more aggressive, landed more dude, Charlo won almost

1403
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 4: all of these exchanges except for you know a couple

1404
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 4: of them in the early rounds. I mean, dude, he

1405
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 4: he just out manned them, and you'd love to see it, Luke,

1406
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 4: but he out manned them in this fight.

1407
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 3: You know what's amazing BC. You go back to this one.

1408
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: He loses to Tony Harrison, comes back and avenges the

1409
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 3: loss and had the draw with Castano and then comes

1410
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: back and then gets the win. So you have these

1411
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: two performances, the Harrison fight, or I should say the

1412
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: Harrison rematch and the Castano rematch where you saw granted,

1413
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: you know, Harrison was having his moments in the rematch too.

1414
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 3: But the point I want to make is sometimes the Charlos,

1415
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: they get criticized for having a level of they have

1416
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 3: this desire for acclaim that sometimes you'd say, well, you're

1417
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 3: very good, but you haven't quite shown us this these

1418
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 3: rematches with Harrison and Castano, it clearly shows that when

1419
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 3: at least in the case of Dremel Charlo, when he

1420
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: really buckles down and he really trains, and he talked

1421
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 3: about the fact that he was like way underweight for

1422
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 3: this one. When I say way, I mean like a

1423
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 3: pound or two, but still, you know, underweight for this

1424
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 3: one because he had put in so much work. It

1425
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 3: almost shows that the critics are a little bit right

1426
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: about them, which is that, yes, dude, you guys are

1427
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 3: crazy talented, but maybe just maybe not that they're lazy.

1428
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 3: You know, that's not quite true. But we don't all

1429
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: always get the best out of them. What was so

1430
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: magnificent about this one is even in the rounds that

1431
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: Castagno won rounds four to six, Charlo was in that

1432
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: one biting down on the mouthpiece, be not abandoning the

1433
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: game plan, not panicking, really firing it off, and then

1434
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 3: getting back to the game plan and then finishing off

1435
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,919
Speaker 3: his foe. Dude. When these guys actually give what they

1436
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: have to give, when they actually give what is really

1437
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 3: truly inside them, it is magnificent to watch. So I

1438
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: don't want to say that the critics are always right

1439
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 3: about Charlo's That's not what I mean. But I do

1440
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 3: mean to say that, like Derek James pulling the most

1441
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 3: out of him, it was a sight to behold.

1442
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: No, you nailed it without being rude. You're still correct,

1443
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 4: and that's that. You know, do they get hate that's

1444
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 4: disgusting and wrong? And yeah, you know, they're public figures.

1445
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 4: They probably get a lot of bad shit. But I

1446
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 4: do agree that the critical critique, the stuff that they

1447
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 4: get super mad about at times, it is driven in

1448
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 4: the idea that we see the greatness in there, but

1449
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 4: sometimes it's selective on when it comes out. And the

1450
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 4: fact that Charlo fought this waygainst Castano in one, it

1451
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that I expect him to fight this same

1452
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: way every time out. It just means that he's showing

1453
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 4: you now that he can do this and he's willing

1454
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 4: to when needed, and it's going to be needed at times.

1455
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 4: But you know, the difference between this and how he

1456
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 4: avenged the loss to Harrison was that, you know, he

1457
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 4: was facing a more pure boxer in Harrison than Castano is.

1458
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 4: And even though I was you know, at times I said, look,

1459
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 4: I still didn't think Charlo threw enough punches in that fight,

1460
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 4: and I thought he was down on the scorecards at

1461
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 4: the time of the knockout against Harrison. He's still showing

1462
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 4: you that he can literally win a fight in every way.

1463
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 4: That's how damn well rounded he is. So I don't

1464
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: know if he's needed the two the loss and the

1465
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: draw to really fire something up in him to get

1466
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 4: that extra level of focus. But whatever he did to

1467
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 4: harness this performance, whatever he had to do to get

1468
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 4: right or prepare or whatever it was. You know, sometimes

1469
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 4: it's a spiritual thing. Sometimes it's just a I'm dialing

1470
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 4: in more than normal, or sometimes maybe I'm just working

1471
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 4: harder than normal. I'm not sure what it is. But

1472
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 4: he's pound for pound great when he dials into that. So, Luke,

1473
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 4: it's gonna be really interesting, in my opinion, where Jurmel

1474
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 4: goes now that he is the un disputed champ, because

1475
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 4: he did throw out that tease of potentially wanting to

1476
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 4: go to middleweight in the post fight interview. But dude,

1477
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 4: I still think there's business at fifty four, big big

1478
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 4: business if he wants to hang around.

1479
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 3: So I don't know who would be next. You have

1480
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: a better sense of that, but I do well. I

1481
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 3: do want to make sure we make a point in

1482
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 3: this conversation to say something about Derek James. Derek James is,

1483
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 3: of course his trainer. And for folks who may not realize,

1484
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 3: boxing fans know this, but for MA fans who don't,

1485
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 3: that's the trainer of Erl Spence. Errol Spence BC and

1486
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 3: I were just at that fight in Arlington, Texas. We

1487
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: may have been in the bleeders BC, but we were

1488
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 3: there and we saw what Spence did to Yodadani's ugas.

1489
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 3: Who is a supreme talent dude, Derek James. Let me

1490
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: ask you this right now pound for pound rankings, not

1491
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: of fighters, but of boxing trainers. Where is Derek James? Dude?

1492
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you. I'll say it as fair and

1493
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 4: honest as it is. It's either al Eddie Renoso right

1494
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 4: now as the best trainers in the game, and it's

1495
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 4: not to me about you know how many great fighters

1496
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 4: you have, because we've seen it before. Trainers become Hall

1497
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 4: of Fame great like a Freddie Roach and then suddenly

1498
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 4: they have this factory and everyone's trying to run to

1499
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 4: them to get rescued. I like that. Derek James is

1500
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 4: almost more like a if you want to make an

1501
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 4: MMA comparison, like a Trevor Whitman. He you know, he's

1502
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 4: only got to select few couple clients, but they're super elite.

1503
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 4: Although I'm sure he's working with younger fighters and always

1504
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 4: on the lookout, but it's you know, it's it's Spence

1505
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 4: in Charlow or the or the reasons why we know him,

1506
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 4: and he takes their greatness, which is them, but just

1507
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 4: figures out that the tiny wrinkles or whatever he has

1508
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 4: to do to you know, to motivate or get them

1509
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 4: to focus on the part of their game that they're

1510
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 4: not seeing that they need to either clean up or

1511
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: or you know, he enunciate more. And yeah, Luke, I

1512
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 4: think you know, you want to make the argument right

1513
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,839
Speaker 4: now that he's the best in the game. The proofs

1514
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 4: in the putting, as Floyd would say, Luke, he's got

1515
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: two of the ten best fighters in the game right

1516
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 4: now operating on high cylinders. And it's great to see

1517
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 4: because Derek James used to be a fighter himself, but

1518
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 4: you know, never had some super big moments to be

1519
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 4: in your living room necessarily. But you know, he works hard,

1520
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 4: he still keeps a full time job. He he loves

1521
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 4: this game, and it's good to see him get in

1522
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 4: that respect now.

1523
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 3: All right, So in terms of next fights, what makes

1524
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 3: the most sense for Jamal Charlo?

1525
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 4: All right, if he wants to go to sixty, you know,

1526
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 4: go for it. It's fine. I know his brother's eventually

1527
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 4: gonna move up to sixty eight, and there's you know,

1528
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 4: there's a lot to chase there, but there's much more

1529
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 4: to chase dollars wise, storyline wise, attention wise at one

1530
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 4: fifty four. I know when people get the four belts,

1531
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 4: sometimes they go, Okay, I've climbed them mountain. Let's move on.

1532
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 4: But think about this right now. Charlo has two mandatories,

1533
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 4: and I think they're both huge events, depending on how

1534
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 4: you set them up and play them out. One is

1535
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 4: Tim Zoo, who beat who did he beat Goshe? Terrell

1536
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 4: Goshe and his US debut and really showed us. Okay,

1537
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 4: maybe he takes more damage than we thought he should,

1538
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 4: but he's on this level, Luke, if they want to

1539
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 4: do Charlo versus like tim Zoo, like, that's a potential event,

1540
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 4: Like that's a great fight on paper, and if you

1541
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 4: wanted to get Australia heavily involved, I mean, that could

1542
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 4: be an event. But then there's also Sebastian Fundora, who

1543
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 4: knocked out ericson Lubin and is such a fun attraction

1544
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 4: of his own almost six seven.

1545
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: The Tim Zu fight is interesting to me, But let

1546
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 3: me just interrupt. Doesn't Charlo absolutely torch Fondora?

1547
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 4: So in theory, yes, But Luke, I would have said

1548
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 4: the same thing about Lubin. I would have said the

1549
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 4: same thing about everyone I've seen him fight. Is you know,

1550
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 4: Fondora doesn't doesn't use his size, doesn't move his head

1551
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 4: a whole time. He just stands in front of you

1552
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 4: and throws so much volume. But he lands clean and

1553
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 4: he hits hard, and he's almost six seven for a

1554
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 4: junior middlewaight, which is ridiculous, and he kind of just

1555
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 4: wears you down in the brawl. That dude, I'm just

1556
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 4: talking about as an attraction fight Charlo versus him for

1557
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 4: all four belts. I think there's money to be made

1558
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 4: there if if PBC wants to get involved in that

1559
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 4: in and convinced Charlot to stay, if they're convincing is needed.

1560
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 4: But Luke, also think of the names that are still around,

1561
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 4: like like a Jared Hurd if he can get referbused

1562
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 4: like at Julian Williams. You know, former unified champions of

1563
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 4: this division that are still here. Terrence Crawford's probably more

1564
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 4: of a long shot, but that's also you know, was

1565
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 4: teased and rumored after a potential Spence Crawford fight. I

1566
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 4: think there's more business at fifty four because sixty is

1567
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 4: a little bit more splintered to other networks and other promoters.

1568
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 4: But you know, he did just climb the mountain, Luke,

1569
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 4: so I'm sure the decision's on.

1570
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 3: Him, and also Jamal Charlow, the bigger of the two

1571
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: moving to one sixty eight. This is a Canelo bid

1572
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 3: as well. I mean a Canelo is still with his

1573
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 3: his own contract, but even Eddie Hearn is like, yeah,

1574
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna be gone when this contract is up, right,

1575
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 3: So that part of that is the Canello sweepsticks, right, Yeah,

1576
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: But plus I.

1577
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 4: Also think it's time for Jamal to move up, because

1578
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 4: you know, he's kind of beating everybody he could get

1579
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 4: in the ring with him. And I know he's got

1580
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: Machi Seleski coming up on Showtime this summer, and you know,

1581
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 4: a guy who's tested a lot of these elite guys.

1582
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 4: But if he goes to sixty eight, after that you're

1583
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 4: talking about David Benavitez, Caleb Plant. You know, they're much

1584
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 4: more Canelo, much, much, much bigger potential for names here.

1585
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 3: All right, let's move to point number five and we'll

1586
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: wrap up our top five here on Monday Show BC.

1587
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 3: We stay with show Time Boxing BC. We've been warning everybody,

1588
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 3: We've been telling them. I don't know if the message

1589
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,839
Speaker 3: is getting through, but it better. Jiron Ennis, dude, Custio

1590
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 3: Clayton is not a joke. But this idea of making

1591
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 3: Jiron Ennis fight the Custio Claytons of the world, or whoever,

1592
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 3: Thomas delarm or whoever it's a waste of his time.

1593
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 3: He dispatches him in less than two rounds made it

1594
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 3: look absolutely effortless. This now officially makes him the number

1595
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 3: one contender mandatory for the IBF title held by Eryl Spence.

1596
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 3: So my question to you is, not BC, is Jiron

1597
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: Ennis as good as we think he is. He appears

1598
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 3: quite obviously to be that. My question is, dude, they're

1599
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 3: going to avoid him. I want to bring up a

1600
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 3: quote that I saw my guy real quick are yeah, yeah,

1601
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 3: real quickly? My guy a box cutter pass. I VI

1602
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: any pass from Jedime Trix. He posted about this over

1603
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: the weekend. He's from Philly, He's a huge Giron and

1604
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 3: his fan brought up a quote that Joe Lewis told

1605
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 3: to Marvin Hagler, which was, you have three strikes against you.

1606
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 3: You're Black, you're Southpaw, and you're good. They're going to

1607
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 3: avoid you like the plague. Now, certainly it's a bit

1608
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: of a different circumstance in today's boxing than it was

1609
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 3: back then, but it's the same point. Is Jeron Ennis

1610
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 3: going to be able to get the fights that we

1611
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 3: want him to be in?

1612
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 4: Yes? And part of that is because he likes Spence

1613
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 4: before him becoming the mandatory for kell Brook and traveling

1614
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 4: to England while all the stars under his own you know,

1615
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 4: universe and silo of PBC Showtime, even though he's not

1616
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 4: a PBC official fighter. We've talked about this before, but

1617
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 4: he's a showtime fighter. They don't seemingly feel the need

1618
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 4: to do it now. They don't want to be the

1619
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 4: first one, right that goes in and finds out how

1620
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 4: great he can be. So he's gone the mandatory route.

1621
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 4: The good news is by blowing away Clayton, he's now

1622
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 4: the number one contenders you mentioned, So they're gonna have

1623
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 4: to it's just when. And you know, is it going

1624
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 4: to be Crawford first, which which we would not be

1625
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 4: unhappy about, but he's already secured Luke that side of it.

1626
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 4: If you won't fight me, I'll force myself in. So

1627
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen. The question is next or if not,

1628
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 4: who next? I know I've talked about Staniosis, who has

1629
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 4: the secondary WBA belt, could just be a you know, okay,

1630
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 4: we'll test him against there, but against this level and

1631
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 4: is whatever you want to say about Custio Clayton, Dude,

1632
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 4: he was undefeated and he had never been down, and

1633
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 4: he had been like durable and contest guys. Dude, this

1634
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 4: looked like the Harlem Globetrotters against the Washington generals. I mean,

1635
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 4: at this level, like we're done here, and he may

1636
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 4: do that to Staniosis. I don't know, dude. Stanios is

1637
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 4: a tough out that could be a fun style fight.

1638
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 4: But the whole point is, no, I don't I don't

1639
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 4: even think there's there's enough upside for these big stars

1640
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 4: right now to fight him if they don't have to,

1641
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 4: especially like a Keith Thurman where there's no belt involved.

1642
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 4: He's not gonna fight him now. He'd fight him for

1643
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 4: the belts, but he's not gonna fight him right now.

1644
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 4: But the good news is, you know, he's gonna Spence's

1645
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 4: gonna have to I loved even though there was this

1646
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 4: long delay on the Showtime broadcast because Castanio arrived late

1647
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 4: for the main event to the arena. No one knew

1648
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 4: if he was, you know, doing gamesmanship stuff or just

1649
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 4: was late. But we we got to see Spence interviewed

1650
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 4: in the crowd with Jim Gray, and you know, he

1651
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 4: gave Boots his flowers. You know, he said, no, the

1652
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 4: kid's good, you know, and and and you know, we

1653
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 4: got our focus is on Crawford trying to make that

1654
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 4: fight happen. But you know, he basically said, we're gonna

1655
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 4: have to see him and I you know, he threw

1656
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 4: the joke in at the end about you know, uh

1657
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 4: Boots his comment about how he's ready for the big

1658
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 4: the big guys and all that and you know, don't

1659
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 4: be careful what you asked for. But it was Spence's

1660
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: way of showing like, I know who he is, I'm

1661
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 4: gonna have to do it and it is what it is,

1662
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 4: Luke that's gonna be such the I said this on

1663
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 4: the on the post fight Analysis show after uh after

1664
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 4: Charlo on Morning Combat. If Boots enters his first real

1665
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 4: elite fight test, and we still don't really know, you

1666
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 4: know what I mean, how great he can be. Plus

1667
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 4: are those intangibles for real, you know, the chin, the backbone,

1668
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 4: the ability to adapt your game plan when someone's controlling you,

1669
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 4: all that stuff that you only find out at the

1670
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 4: elite level when you're this much of a freak and

1671
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 4: you're blowing people away, you know what I mean, Normally

1672
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 4: you'd find that out in your first twenty five fights.

1673
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 4: We don't really know all that, dude. If he goes

1674
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 4: to a Spence fight without us knowing that Luke or

1675
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 4: a Crawford fighter whomever, Uh, you know, line one hanover Ohio,

1676
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 4: How do I walk with this erection?

1677
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 3: Luke?

1678
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 4: How do I you know what I'm saying? You know

1679
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Luke? Do you really know what I'm saying?

1680
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's ask this question. What is a mechanism? Okay?

1681
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 3: So if Bud Crawford signs with PBC, we're confident that

1682
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 3: would be next Spence versus Crawford. It's it's been forever

1683
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 3: in delays, but appears like if there's ever been a

1684
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 3: time to make it, it's this one. What are some

1685
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 3: possible options for Jaron Ennis because he is the number

1686
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 3: one mandatory? Couldn't Spence just drop the belt and then

1687
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: he has to fight whoever the fuck for it?

1688
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 4: Yes, Spence could do that, He could play that game.

1689
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to because he wants to unify with Crawford.

1690
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 4: Spence has not been about doing that shit that ship

1691
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 4: that you can do when you have the leverage, when

1692
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 4: you're the unopposed a side. And and I don't mean

1693
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 4: to say that if you've done that, you know you're

1694
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 4: a bit. Everybody who's achieved that power has abused it

1695
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 4: to an agree to a degree, from you know, Oscar

1696
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 4: to Floyd to even Canelo waiting out triple g almost

1697
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 4: two full years there for you know, no reason but

1698
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 4: to maybe see him get old. Like no one's perfect here.

1699
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 4: But I think Spence is about this, about this life.

1700
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 4: And yes, if Spence beats Crawford for all four belts,

1701
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 4: is that is it possible that he breaks our hearts

1702
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 4: and just gives up all the belts, Luke and goes

1703
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 4: up to one fifty four? I mean I guess right,

1704
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 4: you know what if he win? What if Spence became

1705
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 4: the undisputed champion and then only sought Canelo in a catchwaight,

1706
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 4: that was his only focus from here on out. It's

1707
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 4: not like we'd say, you know, dude, you know you're

1708
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 4: a bitch, you're running from boots. I mean some would.

1709
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 4: I don't think he's about that, Luke. Spence has that

1710
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 4: old school mentality. And that's why this new era is

1711
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 4: so fun right now when they're making the fights and

1712
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 4: the fights are delivering, which they are last year in

1713
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 4: this year, it's why it's so fun. Put your blinders on,

1714
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 4: forget about the past, enjoy this right, put your face

1715
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 4: up against the screen, just just just enjoy is Uh.

1716
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 4: People don't want to leave their division, their time, their era,

1717
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 4: with questions that they weren't the man. That's old school mentality.

1718
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 4: Spence has that, So I feel confident that, like who

1719
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 4: cares Boots isn't a PBC fighter. Apparently the relationship works.

1720
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 4: He's a showtime fighter. We're gonna make this. We're gonna's

1721
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 4: gonna happen. Luke Spence ain't dumping that belt in the

1722
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 4: garbage like Ridick Boa, you know, to avoid lenox Lewi's

1723
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 4: not happening. I believe. Look, you don't get a lot,

1724
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 4: you don't get tattoos on your back that aggressive if

1725
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 4: you're not about that life.

1726
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair, BC, that's fair. All right, that's it

1727
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Speaker 3: All right, there you have it.

1761
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Speaker 4: There it is. That felt good.

1762
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it for our top five. It's time now

1763
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 3: for the viewers to ask us questions. It's time for

1764
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 3: dms from the old.

1765
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 4: Diggity hehaw he haw.

1766
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, let's go first. Oh, of course this

1767
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 3: is the first one from Tylareans thoughts on the Tony

1768
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 3: Kelly debacle. This would be the incident between let's see,

1769
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 3: it was Andrea Lee and Vivian Aroujo fighting and in

1770
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 3: between rounds, Tony kel who's in here a corner, uh,

1771
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 3: says that you know you're fighting some dirty uh Brazilians.

1772
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 3: You know they're gonna cheat, and on and on and

1773
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 3: on BC. What do you think?

1774
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, e f and dirty. Look the quote itself just

1775
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 4: it was abrasive in this climate and culture, and I say,

1776
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 4: what is this comment? And culture one where we don't

1777
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 4: do shit like this? It screams horribly, It screams almost racism.

1778
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 4: And I get his response was sort of like, you know,

1779
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 4: was terrible, trying to cover it up, but not really

1780
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 4: you know, into the letter of the law. Could he

1781
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 4: really have had no malicious intent and was really focusing

1782
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 4: on the fact that he believes Brazilian fighters cheat, Like, yeah,

1783
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 4: I guess it could have. But even that, it just

1784
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 4: it just looks bad. It sounds bad. It's a it's

1785
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 4: it's a it's aggressive, and it's offensive. This is also

1786
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 4: the fight game, so I get it. And sometimes we

1787
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 4: we allow trash talk between fighters when it gets super

1788
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 4: personal and aggressive because it's he heightened emotions. But just

1789
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 4: take the l and do better because it's not it's

1790
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 4: not a good look at all. In fact, it's very offensive.

1791
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 3: I mean, is there like, is there like in the

1792
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 3: world of possible interpretations, is there an interpretation that is

1793
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 3: not necessarily good? But is there one that isn't explicitly racial? Yes,

1794
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 3: in the world of possible interpretations, it is possible to

1795
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 3: come to that. However, it is extremely unlikely. It's an

1796
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 3: absolutely awful thing that he said, only made worse by

1797
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 3: his absurd defense of it, claiming cancel culture, like, you're

1798
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 3: not popular enough to be canceled. I'm not popular enough

1799
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 3: to be Joe Rogan might be, or somebody will know.

1800
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 3: None of us are popular enough to be canceled, so

1801
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 3: like that is not even remotely in play here at all.

1802
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 3: And also like, what's so bad about it is not

1803
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 3: just that he did it. It's like, dude, in what

1804
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 3: like maybe in siri A when they have a team

1805
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: that has a player who's black and then they're the

1806
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 3: fans show up with like bananas, which is like horrible

1807
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 3: and the worst shit ever. Maybe maybe that that's worse

1808
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 3: in terms of like sports, But like, dude, ask an

1809
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 3: ESPN executive, what sport from women's softball to UFC to

1810
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 3: everything else gives you more headaches in terms of this

1811
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 3: kind of like retro grade nineteenth century bullshit? How much

1812
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 3: of that do you have to clean up in all

1813
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 3: the other sports versus this one? And I fucking guarantee

1814
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 3: you MMA is at the top of their list. Dude,

1815
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 3: mma is like my favorite sport. But like he comes

1816
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 3: out and he says this, and then he has this

1817
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 3: terrible response afterwards, and there are, of course, of course

1818
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 3: there's gonna be people who say, what's the wrong with

1819
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 3: what he said? Let me explain something to you. Look

1820
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 3: at me very look at me very clearly, and listen

1821
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 3: to me very carefully. If you don't understand what Tony

1822
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 3: Kelly said is wrong. You have no capacity to reason

1823
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 3: morally whatsoever, none zero. Your brain does not work. It

1824
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 3: does not work if you don't understand that what he

1825
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:02,520
Speaker 3: said was absolutely reprehensible. Defense of this, to me is sickening,

1826
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 3: and more to the point, the ubiquity of this is

1827
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 3: also sickening. The culture and MMA, which by the way,

1828
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 3: absolutely gives rise to racist bullshit all the time, is

1829
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 3: fucking awful. MMA is my favorite sport, and I mean that,

1830
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 3: but mme, culture is shit. It's trash, it's awful. I

1831
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 3: hate everything about MMA culture. I don't like it at all.

1832
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: It's got nothing for me. And this leniency about it,

1833
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 3: this pervasiveness about it, this ubiquity. Dude, you can't go

1834
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 3: into the proverbial MM forest and turn over a rock

1835
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 3: and not find worms. It's everywhere. It's every fucking it's everywhere.

1836
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 3: It's everywhere, and it is oppressive and awful. And you know, listen,

1837
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 3: I'm not expecting I'm not expecting every person's worldview to

1838
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 3: agree with mine. Believe me, I'm in a world where

1839
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 3: it's the exact opposite all the time. And I have

1840
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 3: made peace with that, but only up to a certain point.

1841
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,280
Speaker 3: You cannot get on national TV and say the shit

1842
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 3: he said and then get after words and then blame

1843
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 3: kick like like it's fucking comical to blame cancel culture.

1844
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 3: It's like, no, reasonable people just don't want to hear

1845
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 3: racist shit when they turn on their TVs. It's really

1846
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 3: no more complex than that. And in a bare minimum,

1847
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 3: even if you want to call it racial xenophobic to

1848
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 3: the nth degree, certainly that as well. Well, that's it's

1849
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 3: really unenlightened no matter which way you want to cross it.

1850
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: And if anyone out there is like I'm gonna defend

1851
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 3: this or I don't get what the problem is, you

1852
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 3: are fucking lost.

1853
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 4: The best case scenario is like blatant ignorant xenophobia. So

1854
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 4: it's like either way, horrific, Look, move it out, you know,

1855
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 4: move it on over. But Luke, isn't that twice now

1856
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 4: for KGB's uh.

1857
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 3: Oh man, I know. It's like it's like even if

1858
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 3: you do, like, okay, well Tony Kelly made a mistake

1859
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 3: and maybe he'll figure it out later. Fine, I mean,

1860
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: it's entirely possible. But I wasn't born with enlightened ideas either,

1861
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 3: you know, not that I haven't even now, but like

1862
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: you know, it takes time. Fine, whatever. The point I'm

1863
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 3: trying to make here is in the case of Andrea Elite,

1864
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 3: it's like, let me see if I understand this. She

1865
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 3: had tear rible corner advice uh on national TV. And

1866
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 3: yet this woman is the same one who like didn't

1867
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 3: fully get why having a boyfriend with Nazi tattoos. By

1868
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 3: the way, you look up why he was in prison

1869
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 3: to begin with, that's a whole other story. And then

1870
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: like it was like, wow, why would we have to

1871
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 3: defend or why would we have to cover up Nazi tattos?

1872
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: Because they're fucking Nazi tattoos. Why do you have them

1873
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 3: at all? After you get out of prison, the first

1874
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 3: fucking thing you do is go and get them covered up.

1875
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 4: If you have even a slight.

1876
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 3: Ability to morally reason or care about other people at

1877
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 3: fucking all. This was even this was debated, This was like, Wow,

1878
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 3: why would someone want to do that? Holy fucking shit.

1879
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 3: Next time people have terrible opinions about the folks who

1880
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 3: like him, which, by the way, hand raised that's me too,

1881
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 3: don't ever question them about why they have it that way.

1882
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 3: Don't ever question them about why they're like, why would

1883
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 3: you have a bad opinion about folks who like nim

1884
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 3: Because there is so much rancid shit coursing through the

1885
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 3: veins of this sport and nobody ever wants to say

1886
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 3: shit about it. Lest you be accused of being a snowflag,

1887
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 3: lest you be accused of cancel culture. No, a lot

1888
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 3: of you have real shitty ideas about the world, and

1889
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 3: you have not had this reflected upon you because you

1890
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 3: live in a bubble. And then when he gets on

1891
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 3: National TV, all all of a sudden, the lights turn

1892
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 3: on and you don't know what to do about it.

1893
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 3: That's the reality here, dude. The MMA is the greatest sport,

1894
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 3: but the culture around it and the ideas that floated

1895
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 3: are horrific.

1896
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 4: Tune into Luke's live chat on Thursday where he tackles abortion.

1897
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 3: It just drives me nuts, dude, It drives me nuts. Uh?

1898
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 4: All right, Lee would take the loss by unanimous decision

1899
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 4: in that fight.

1900
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 3: Let's move on, Okay, at Maddox Clan one one one,

1901
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 3: how how do you think Benavitez versus Lemieux goes? And

1902
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 3: what's next? Given he gets a solid w can't wait?

1903
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 3: I'll be out there with my boy David next Saturday.

1904
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 3: Hashtag team Benavidez asta Lamerte.

1905
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 4: This fight is gonna be fantastic. David Lemieux, former middleweight champion,

1906
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 4: is in the in the ending the second chapter of

1907
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 4: his career here at one sixty eight. But what does

1908
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 4: he do? He comes in there to bang. The guy's

1909
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 4: left hook is still a problem. He's always been, you know,

1910
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 4: too in love with his power. Not as good of

1911
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 4: a boxer against the other super elites, but he can

1912
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 4: still throw. And when Benavidez brings in that style and

1913
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 4: they go, you know, Mano Imano in the center of

1914
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 4: that ring, it's gonna be fun as crap. It's gonna

1915
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 4: be a wild fight. But yes, one I believe Benavidez

1916
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 4: should be able to stop him and make a huge statement.

1917
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 4: But really it's the same statement he keeps making here

1918
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 4: that you know that he may have lost his title

1919
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 4: twice both his fault failed recreational drug test and scale mishap,

1920
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 4: but he's still, you know, in conversation outside of Canelo

1921
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 4: as the best one hundred sixty eight pounder in the world.

1922
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 4: I mean, he's that good. So what would he go next?

1923
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 4: Hopefully now no more rest stops along the way. Let's

1924
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 4: let Benavidez fight a champion. I want to see him

1925
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 4: against Caleb Plant, who I know doesn't have a belt

1926
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 4: right now because he lost to Canelo. I want to

1927
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 4: see him against Jamal Charlow would be a massive fight.

1928
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 4: And Luke, I want to see him against Canelo just

1929
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 4: like everybody else does, as long as he gets one

1930
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 4: of those massive names or Demitrius Andre Andred who can't

1931
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 4: get anybody in the ring. I know that's not an

1932
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 4: easy fight to make. The whole point is it's got

1933
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 4: to be super elite after this because even though the

1934
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 4: mishaps have been his fault, Luke, he keeps doing the

1935
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 4: penance to earn back the standing of where he was

1936
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 4: when when those bad things happened.

1937
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when he's on, he's on right, Like

1938
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 3: when David Benavidez his cooking, he's great. It's just he's

1939
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: got a lot of well he's I should say, he

1940
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 3: has had a fair amount of issues outside of the

1941
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 3: ring or on the scales that have kind of cost him,

1942
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 3: as you alluded to. But dude, when he's when he's delivering,

1943
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 3: he's delivering all right, my vision, it's still not great

1944
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 3: even with glasses from mart c nineteen ten. Who do

1945
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 3: you think is the best MMA fighter with a losing record? Now?

1946
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 3: You see, when they say a losing record, they mean

1947
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 3: majority losses, Like I don't know.

1948
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 4: I think they mean an under five hundred record, or

1949
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 4: I guess they could also mean somebody whose record is

1950
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 4: above five hundred, but they've got like twenty career losses, right,

1951
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 4: Like you know, like a Paul Day who has like

1952
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 4: eighteen losses, Rady Cotuur's got a ridiculous amount, Andrea Alarvski

1953
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 4: I think has twenty losses, right, I mean.

1954
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alix Obreeme has a bunch of losses too.

1955
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean we forgive losses in MMA in ways

1956
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 4: that we would never do in boxing, fair or unfair.

1957
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 4: But is there a specific person with a losing record

1958
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 4: who carries that? Like if it was Michael Johnson, right,

1959
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 4: if he retires with a losing record, he'd like, damn,

1960
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 4: that's probably the best guy I've ever seen with a

1961
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 4: damn losing record, Right? Who else jumps out? Look? Anyone?

1962
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 3: Well? In the end, got I hate to say it,

1963
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 3: but I think BJ Penn's record at the end was

1964
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 3: kind of close. Let me double check that. I'm pretty

1965
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 3: sure he was close to five hundred at the time.

1966
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 3: Let's see.

1967
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 4: So are you factoring in the two fight series at

1968
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 4: the Lavashak or not?

1969
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 3: I think he might put him under, so, dude, kind

1970
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 3: of close. Cole Lee, I cannot believe he finished this way,

1971
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 3: but he did sixteen fourteen to two sixteen, so with

1972
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 3: technically winning, but still I mean basically basically even more

1973
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 3: or less so that he might be him. Dude, It

1974
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 3: might be him because he's considered like Mount Rushmore or something,

1975
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 3: you know, uh.

1976
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, or at least the future governor one of the

1977
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 4: two Luke.

1978
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. He missed the debates, did you see that? No?

1979
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 3: Why what happened there was? I guess for just the Republicans,

1980
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 3: of which he that is the that's the party he's

1981
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 3: running with. There was a GOP debate for the primaries,

1982
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 3: and apparently his team missed it. So I don't know

1983
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 3: what that means, but they missed it all right at

1984
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 3: O'Reilly seven four zero two. But these are very inspired names.

1985
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 3: Does anyone have a weirder MMA record than Michael Johnson

1986
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 3: to that point being even rocking former champs and interim champs,

1987
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 3: but losing to some less than good fighters. It is

1988
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,639
Speaker 3: weird that you knocked out Dustin Partier in the first

1989
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 3: because like, here's the thing, b see, we've all seen

1990
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 3: the guys who have like one like really amazing, Like

1991
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 3: who is it that knocked out con Britus Prescott? Right?

1992
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 3: He knocked him out? Right? Yeah, but then Britis didn't

1993
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 3: have any other con like win. Johnson is different. Now

1994
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 3: maybe the party one stands a little bit alone, but

1995
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 3: not really like he beat Edsen Barbosa early into Edsen

1996
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,759
Speaker 3: Borbos's run, so like he's got a few of those

1997
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 3: high end wins. I don't know, it's it's I don't

1998
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 3: know if anyone.

1999
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 4: Has the quality controlled by our producers and the variety

2000
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 4: of questions, Luke, is the is the last one about

2001
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 4: Michael Johnson as well?

2002
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

2003
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 4: Uh, it reminds me of it's rare in boxing when

2004
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 4: somebody can get, you know, ten losses and fight for

2005
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 4: and win a title. But do you remember light heavyweight

2006
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 4: Glenn Johnson, Glenn Coff Johnson from Jamaica, Luke, when he

2007
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 4: he was a journeyman with like ten losses, and then

2008
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 4: he like went on this run and won the light

2009
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 4: heavyweight championship and was like the fighter of the year

2010
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 4: in like two thousand and four or five ish area

2011
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 4: beat Tarvar. I mean, he'd beat everyone for a while

2012
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 4: and then went back to kind of being a tough

2013
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 4: out journeyman. But it's it's rare, Luke. When it's certainly

2014
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 4: rare when somebody gets to the title level. Although that

2015
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 4: the standards of that boxing wise are much different than

2016
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 4: the standards of MMA. But yeah, yeah, I don't know

2017
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 4: if I've if I've got a better answer to Michael

2018
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 4: Johnson for either of these questions.

2019
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 3: I mean, art some Lobov beat paulymel Naji.

2020
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I think the judges missed that one too, Luke.

2021
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:32,560
Speaker 3: Okay, they wait, okay, but it was still pretty competitive.

2022
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, it was. It was something Luke, all right,

2023
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 4: all right?

2024
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 3: From at math dot U dot sale dot era.

2025
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I love that.

2026
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas versus see him punk in an MMA fight.

2027
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,799
Speaker 3: Who wins and how probably? Well I guess I'm bigger

2028
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 3: than him, so I guess I would just win in

2029
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 3: that sense. But BC, I will tell you the truth.

2030
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 3: I didn't tell you this yesterday. I'll tell you today.

2031
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 3: I was in the hospital yesterday, yesterday morning. Yeah, I've

2032
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 3: told you guys this. Probably i'll tell the audience. It's

2033
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 3: kind of funny given brock Lesner had the same one,

2034
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 3: although he had like a super severe version of it.

2035
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 3: I don't have that. But in the last eighteen months,

2036
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 3: I've had three pretty remarkable flare ups of diverticulitis. And

2037
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 3: I'm at the point now where the doctor I saw

2038
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,480
Speaker 3: because I woke up sure enough in pain. I recognized

2039
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 3: it immediately, so I went and they hooked me up.

2040
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 3: I'm all right, I've got a bunch of stuff I

2041
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 3: have to take now. But the point trying to make

2042
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 3: cairing me again, No no, no, no, no no. Well, here's

2043
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 3: the thing. Even losing all the weight that I did it,

2044
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 3: I still wasn't giving my body the specific kinds of

2045
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 3: nutrients it needed. And now I'm at the point where, dude,

2046
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 3: like I was, I've been pretty good about it. The

2047
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 3: last week I went two days without drinking a lot

2048
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 3: of water. Not that I had no water, but not much.

2049
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 3: So the doctor now thinks that I might have like

2050
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 3: you know how if you get like heat exhaustion, one

2051
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 3: time you're more and more prone. Every subsequent time to

2052
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 3: get it gets easier and easier to get it. Now

2053
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 3: I'm at the stage where it's like very easy for

2054
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 3: me to get it. So I have to go see

2055
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 3: a gat was a gastro entrologist and uh and see

2056
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 3: if there's anything they can do for me, because now

2057
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 3: it's coming back like that, like nothing.

2058
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, I had the shit out of issues with

2059
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 4: heat exhaustion in my in my prime basketball and drinking days. Luke.

2060
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 3: You know, I got heat exhaustion for the first time

2061
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 3: my first week at boot camp and I've never been

2062
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 3: the same since, dude. And that was a crazy experience too.

2063
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 3: So now yeah, so now brock lesnar lett it I Dude,

2064
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 3: I don't know how he let it go so long

2065
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 3: because the one version I have is relative to what

2066
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 3: he had, quite mild. And it's painful, bro Like, it's

2067
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 3: real painful.

2068
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 4: Well, he's that old school bite down and don't.

2069
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 3: Complain, dude. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, it's not

2070
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 3: that you couldn't keep going like you could. It's not

2071
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 3: The pain that I had is not so debilitating you

2072
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 3: can't just go about your day you sort of can

2073
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 3: I'll be it would be on. It wouldn't be great,

2074
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 3: but you could do it. But it's like, dude, like

2075
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 3: your body is telling you something. Something's definitely not right.

2076
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 3: It's very unusual pain. How do you ignore that for

2077
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 3: as long as he did?

2078
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm proud of you for for addressing this. Let's

2079
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 4: get fixed up, Luke. You know between my various issues,

2080
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 4: the uh, the liver, I gotta I got MRI. Look,

2081
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 4: this is you know, I'm aly.

2082
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 3: What It also might be related to my gallbladder, which

2083
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 3: I've not had taken out, so that could be another

2084
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 3: problem as well. So it's a few things happening there.

2085
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, boy, yesterday morning, your boy was was the

2086
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 3: old back of the old doctor okay, doctor's chair, whatever

2087
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 3: the fuck you want to call it.

2088
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 4: What if you got really sick and you were also

2089
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 4: like down on your luck financially career wise, would you

2090
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 4: agree to let the MK docs document your entire journey

2091
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 4: if if like they like you know, filled in the

2092
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 4: gap and paid your bills and got you back up

2093
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 4: to speed.

2094
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 3: I mean, you say the entire journey like you're gonna

2095
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 3: watch me get a colonoscopy or something.

2096
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:47,639
Speaker 4: Like Jake moves in basically, and it's like, you know, this.

2097
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 3: Is no, no, no, no. By the way, has Jake gone

2098
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 3: to your house yet? No?

2099
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 4: I had to cancel that one time because my son

2100
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,559
Speaker 4: was sick and uh and and it was chaos here.

2101
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 4: But uh, I gotta get him here because we're supposed

2102
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 4: to go to the supposed to go to the factory town.

2103
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 4: We're supposed to you know, we're supposed to go to

2104
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 4: where it all began. Luke, it's it's it's wid We

2105
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 4: had some wild ideas there. But we'll see what happens.

2106
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

2107
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 4: You ready for the ship, Luke, Let's do it all right?

2108
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 3: Uh?

2109
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Every Sunday I sco with the Globe for the

2110
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 4: good and the bad, the ugly, the highs, the lows,

2111
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 4: the in between and combat sports and beyond. And then

2112
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 4: when Gaffney Pierre assembles that ship, pulls the colonels out,

2113
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 4: and then I ask you, Luke Thomas, have you actually

2114
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 4: seen this ship? All right? Luke? Uh, well, this is

2115
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 4: a tip to tip branded show. What did you did

2116
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 4: you get any movement from Friday's UFC weighan When Blahovich

2117
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 4: and Rackets were like invading each other's space, Luke, I mean,

2118
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,200
Speaker 4: just kiss already, right, the tension is killing me here.

2119
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a bit much. I mean it's like

2120
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 3: I get, I get, because the whole point is if

2121
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 3: someone moves into your space, you don't move away. Yeah,

2122
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 3: but I mean this is February fourteenth, if nothing else is.

2123
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 4: You know, yep, indeed, that's that's an eskimo kiss they

2124
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 4: just did on each other. Luke.

2125
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 3: Well, that's why I forgot about eskimo kisses, right.

2126
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Luke. Speaking of violence, how about we

2127
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 4: speak about violence. Davy Grant did some violent shit in

2128
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 4: this three round bandon weight brawl with Lewis Smolka until

2129
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 4: this late finish.

2130
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 3: Dude, damn yeah he I mean he could have stopped

2131
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 3: to hear.

2132
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 4: I mean, he's just like pot. I mean, he's pounding sand, Luke.

2133
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 4: That's damn wow.

2134
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,759
Speaker 3: That's vicious, accurate ground and pound. Good shots from Davy Grant.

2135
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 4: But speaking of violence, Luke, lightweight Manuel Torres sent Frank

2136
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 4: Camacho to the pit of hell. Did you see this, Luke,

2137
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 4: Frank that got krankd right here?

2138
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I used to train with Frank Camacho back

2139
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 3: in the day Long Long time ago. I love him,

2140
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 3: but this is how he fights, bro, That's how it's

2141
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 3: just win or lose. That's what you're gonna He's not.

2142
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 3: It is what it is, you know what I mean? Like,

2143
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 3: that's what you're gonna get with him. And usually it's

2144
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 3: almost always excited. It's always exciting. Not so great for

2145
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:08,759
Speaker 3: allays winning, but it is great for excitement.

2146
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,679
Speaker 4: Luke, didn't you say your wife once rolled with Cyborg.

2147
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 4: You're we talking Santos or.

2148
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,759
Speaker 3: Or know with Roxanne motor Ferry. She's a fan of Cyborg.

2149
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:17,799
Speaker 3: She likes Cyborg.

2150
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,759
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, okay. Was Roxanne wearing knee and ankle

2151
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 4: pads and a screwba out? Yeah?

2152
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't. I honestly don't know. I don't.

2153
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 4: All right, look we're gonna throw to the post fight

2154
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 4: interview of Jan Belohovich, who had Luke, uh a terrible, horrible,

2155
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 4: no good, very bad week leading up.

2156
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 3: To this victory.

2157
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 7: First of all, they they stole my car. After that,

2158
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 7: I have you know, I have diarrhea. I cannot train

2159
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 7: by three two days, you know, when I come back

2160
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 7: to starting session, starting part of the cat in my eye,

2161
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 7: you know, And I said, well, thanks to Dara my

2162
01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 7: mental cology said, she thinks that we are us enjoy

2163
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 7: our life.

2164
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 4: Luke, what if Yan was one of us, just to

2165
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 4: slob like one of us? Right?

2166
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 3: Just did you did you steal his car? BC? Did

2167
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:13,120
Speaker 3: you steal it?

2168
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 4: Well? I stole it because I had diarrhea, Luke, So

2169
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 4: you know it just it's just it's ironic that way.

2170
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 3: Uh.

2171
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,719
Speaker 4: Atlantis was sitting in the back seat. It was great, Luke.

2172
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 7: Uh.

2173
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 4: Apparently this diarrhea things going around because a week before

2174
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 4: on UFC Fight Pass, we had a regional MMA interview

2175
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 4: gone the same direction, but deeper. Let's go to the

2176
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 4: video team.

2177
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 8: Last fight, I was tired, I was exhausted. I'm about

2178
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 8: to launch this NFT that's going to change the fight game.

2179
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 8: And I put in thirty all nighters before that fight

2180
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 8: at Herpes before that fight, two outbreaks in the span

2181
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 8: of a week. I'm here, I'm healthy. Let's go whatever,

2182
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:48,599
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter.

2183
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 4: I fight, Luke, I said, diarrhea, I met.

2184
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the herpes will The claim that

2185
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 3: the NFT is going to change the game.

2186
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 4: Do you think the NFT is is of herpees? Luke?

2187
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 4: Of like a like this is how I got it right,

2188
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 4: it's you know what I mean, Like it's wow.

2189
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,679
Speaker 3: Well, when they say herpes, what they mean is Matt herpes,

2190
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 3: which is you can just get in the gym. It's

2191
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 3: actually much more transmissible and common than you might imagine.

2192
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 3: He doesn't mean like sex herpees. He means Matt herpes.

2193
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 4: Oh, Matt herpes. Got it, got it? I never had

2194
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 4: that that type of herpes.

2195
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 3: No, no, I know you're doing a bit, but it

2196
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 3: is real. In fact, who was it from the The

2197
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 3: Ultimate Fighter? Who got bounced for that? Somebody as Luke?

2198
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 4: This segment, this chegment's already off the rails. Fuck it,

2199
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 4: let's just vape, Luke. You think you're a professional vapor bro,

2200
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 4: here's vaping two point zero. Okay, you got to get

2201
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 4: up on this level.

2202
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 3: Luke, Dude, what the fuck is he doing? Are you

2203
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:49,920
Speaker 3: shitting me?

2204
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about.

2205
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 3: This is a superpower if you've ever been hit in

2206
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 3: the head with a wrench.

2207
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 4: I mean, he obviously has this vape thing in his hand, right,

2208
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 4: But that's brilliant. That's great.

2209
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 3: That's so gross, dude, like that. I can't believe someone.

2210
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 3: I guess, like, you know what yes, I can't believe

2211
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 3: someone will.

2212
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't believe it, Luke. I mean, vayping's like

2213
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,640
Speaker 4: a real piece of shit vehicle. Look, okay, speaking of

2214
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:16,519
Speaker 4: you better be careful your grandparents don't catch you vapor.

2215
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 4: And let's go to this one, Luke, you got dad vacant,

2216
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 4: little bastard.

2217
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 3: I'll catch you vapin. I catch you vap and you

2218
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen. That vapon is gonna end up

2219
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 3: your wrest. You got dad vacant.

2220
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:34,440
Speaker 1: Little bast.

2221
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 4: Okay, cut it, cut it.

2222
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 3: Here's a here's a live shot of this of the

2223
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 3: set at morning combat when I pull out the vape.

2224
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, Grandpa is shipping all over that ship. It's

2225
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 4: gonna end up in your ass, Luke. If you stick

2226
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 4: to it. Though, vaping isn't just a white tresh dirtbag habit.

2227
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 4: It can become an art form. Let's go to uh,

2228
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 4: some countries got talent.

2229
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 3: These guys like the Okay, oh that's all he's pretty. Yeah,

2230
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 3: he's pretty. I was ready to ship on him, but

2231
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 3: I gotta say that's actually pretty cool.

2232
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:29,800
Speaker 4: We gotta go full screen on that ship. Can we

2233
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 4: put up a smaller.

2234
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 3: Dude, we got to do an interview with him, and

2235
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 3: he has to teach me some vaping tricks. That's what

2236
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

2237
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 4: If you're going to lean into it, you better lean

2238
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 4: into it. You can go professional. Indeed, look, this one

2239
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,560
Speaker 4: isn't a vape, but heck, this might be the We

2240
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 4: might have uncovered the first prehistoric bong. Your thoughts.

2241
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 3: Is there? Let me see if I understand this. This

2242
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 3: lady is smoking the ass marijuana marijuana Brontosaurus. Did I

2243
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 3: get that right?

2244
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 8: Yes?

2245
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, my daughter loves Bronnosaur.

2246
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll love the tail on that one too. If

2247
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 4: we can get at one of those.

2248
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 3: You know, if I see my daughter on have you

2249
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 3: seen this ship smoking a Bronosaurus blunt? You don't know

2250
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 3: what I laugh or cry?

2251
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 4: I learned it by watching you. Luke, Let's have some

2252
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 4: mascot fun. Not everybody is interested in dinosaurs. Just ask

2253
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 4: these kids at this party.

2254
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, what what happened? Wait? Where is it? Okay?

2255
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, the kids are shipping their pants, Luke.

2256
01:45:58,080 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 4: I might be a piece of shit, but I would

2257
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 4: love to be in that costume scaring those kids. That

2258
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 4: looks like so much fun.

2259
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 3: You know, I feel I feel bad for those kids.

2260
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 3: I genuinely feel bad for those kids. But that shit's hilarious, bro,

2261
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 3: watching kids laugh at trauma. That's not real. Yeah, I

2262
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 3: say it's funny, But it's funny.

2263
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 4: If you think I went too far and taking pleasure

2264
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 4: with that. Luke, here's a kid comeback getting revenge on Spidy.

2265
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 3: Just like something fat Spider somewhere and something full screen please, oh,

2266
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 3: just giving him the old hawk there. Huh.

2267
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 4: But I think that was a pull my finger bit

2268
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 4: by a famous defensive coordinator collegiately, looke, that's awful. All right,

2269
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 4: let's keep rolling on. Let's play some sound here, Luke.

2270
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 4: I'm new to this NFL call, but I was fired

2271
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 4: up way my hands and his.

2272
01:46:56,800 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 9: Ability to suck in these bahaws, way by crap trees

2273
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 9: Han and his ability to suck in.

2274
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 4: These I mean, say what you will about Michael Wait.

2275
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, play it again, play it again loudly.

2276
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:14,679
Speaker 9: You know, suck in these behas, way by crap trees,

2277
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:18,759
Speaker 9: hands and his ability to suck in these behas.

2278
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this show is pretty stupid. Wow, that's great, though.

2279
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 3: I said the same thing about knela skin meant many

2280
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 3: many times.

2281
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is that is great? All right? Boxing Weekend

2282
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 4: recap time, Luke Jamel Charlow knocked out Brian Costano and

2283
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 4: he feels fucking amazing. Let's go to the videotape.

2284
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 3: Here it fucking amazing.

2285
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 6: You know why, bro, he should because I could tell

2286
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 6: I could tell him back on who had that. I'd

2287
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 6: be up Bill before you, and you moved up and

2288
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,600
Speaker 6: you was like everybody in our own lane. And I

2289
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 6: fucking love Texas dollar. We got Earl Smith's at forty seven,

2290
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 6: at fifty four, my brother at sixty. We a fucking trio.

2291
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 6: We're fucking the bass Brothers, the mother fucking bass brothers.

2292
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 6: He gonna get that title next, I'm telling you, and

2293
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:10,080
Speaker 6: the money gonna keep going up, but we're gonna feed

2294
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 6: our family.

2295
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 3: So how do I feel. I'm fucking amazing, amazing.

2296
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about, right, dude?

2297
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 3: That is he earned that. That is a hell of

2298
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 3: a victory speech. I take my hat off to him.

2299
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 4: Uh, but not everybody got out clean. Luke.

2300
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 3: Here's Coppinger being sent to hell.

2301
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 4: Here's part of the It was like a double sent

2302
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 4: to hell because he went on a rant after his answer.

2303
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 4: But here's the first half of ESPN's Mike Coppinger stepping

2304
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:36,480
Speaker 4: to the microphone.

2305
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 5: Icopentry, ESPN congrabs on an amazing per formance playing on Disputed.

2306
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 6: All right you sure, yeah that listen?

2307
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,640
Speaker 3: I love you? Don't everybody love you?

2308
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 4: I didn't remember that, so answ your question.

2309
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 6: So first, you know, the other time was telling me

2310
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 6: to get your ship together. You always hate no people

2311
01:48:58,040 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 6: and ship. You see, you gotta come back to me. Now,

2312
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 6: you gotta respect me. Now you got.

2313
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 4: Luke in the uh in the spirit.

2314
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 3: Of glass House, wasn't so terrible dude? That well?

2315
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 4: He went on. He went on to call Mike Coppinger

2316
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 4: a fanboy and say, you've never been in the ring.

2317
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 4: You've never done it before.

2318
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 3: Now what did What did Mike ask him?

2319
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 4: I don't even remember at this when it wasn't an

2320
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 4: offensive question, it was a regular question. But what Charlo

2321
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 4: didn't know is that Mike had scored Kastano ahead in

2322
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:42,880
Speaker 4: this rematch at the time of the stoppage. But uh,

2323
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 4: not to be fair, both Charlo's have told me to

2324
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:47,720
Speaker 4: fun and hung up on the over the phone or

2325
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 4: over zoom before at different times. And also to be fair,

2326
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 4: Coppinger was right, he was like way too early putting

2327
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 4: them on his pound pound list. But he uh, Jermal

2328
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 4: took issue with something cop did, and boy did he?

2329
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,679
Speaker 4: Uh did he drop a deuce there, Luke. But let's

2330
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,640
Speaker 4: keep it going on the boxing side. I don't know

2331
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 4: if you saw in this trailer undercard Evan Holyfield, the

2332
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 4: song of the son of Evander Young holy they call him.

2333
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 4: He got upset by journeyman Jermaine MacDonald, Luke, and it

2334
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,680
Speaker 4: was it was pretty vicious here.

2335
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 3: Didn't one of the holy Field Oh that's oh Jesus

2336
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 3: on top of his own arm. That's a bad sign.

2337
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's only like his fourth pro fight or fifth.

2338
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 4: You know that that's not a good look here, Luke.

2339
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 3: Didn't one of the holy Field brothers our son, excuse

2340
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 3: me play for uga? Yes, I believe one was like

2341
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 3: a running back, Yes, something like that.

2342
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, indeed, Frank Gore also made his official pro debut, Luke.

2343
01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 4: He lost that exhibition fight against Darren Williams, former NBA guard.

2344
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 4: Did you see this highlight, Luke, of Frank Gore's pro debut?

2345
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 4: Good lord, Oh.

2346
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 3: Damn dude, dude, Darren Williams might be uh might be

2347
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 3: pretty good.

2348
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for Darren Williams is way better than

2349
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 4: we thought. I mean, who knows, you know this opponent's level.

2350
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 4: But Frank Or just sent that man to.

2351
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 3: Hell face first.

2352
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 4: That's you don't have to count as Freddy Patchet.

2353
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:19,120
Speaker 3: By the way, our esteemed producer Mickey Mormile is saying

2354
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 3: that the running back who is the son of Evander

2355
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 3: Holyfield is Elijah holy.

2356
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, good pick up there. I appreciate that Luke Golden

2357
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 4: Boys undercard of Zerdo Rameraz knockout of Basil or whatever

2358
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 4: that guy's name was, had John Ramirez against Jan Salvaterra

2359
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 4: and Rameiraz sending this guy Luke to hell via overnight.

2360
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:46,640
Speaker 3: Look at this Luke, Damn dude. I mean the photographer

2361
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 3: is the one who.

2362
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 4: So the photographer one hand caught the back of the head,

2363
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 4: and I mean it was a great it was a

2364
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 4: great move there. Technically, you know, he has twenty seconds

2365
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 4: to get back in the ring, which he did and

2366
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 4: then he was counted out. But you know, you're not

2367
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 4: supposed to have your team members can't help you up.

2368
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 4: But that photographer saved him from something vicious. I believe

2369
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 4: we got a second angle of this, dude, This was

2370
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 4: wild same thing. If you recall that.

2371
01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:19,919
Speaker 3: Right hand stunned him. He measures boom, yeah, right backwards

2372
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 3: as he's already backing up. Let me ask you something.

2373
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 3: Is there a promoter in boxing who is known for

2374
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 3: having shittier rings than the other ones, like less well protected?

2375
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 3: Not that I'm aware of, no, because I mean it's

2376
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 3: a commission's gonna inspect it, so that's the thing. But

2377
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 3: still I'd be curious.

2378
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. Indeed, that was how Bernard Hopkins in his final

2379
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 4: fight when he was like fifty one, went out against

2380
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 4: Joe Smith Junior, threw the damn ropes. Luke just I

2381
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 4: think it was two weeks ago. Golden Boy had a

2382
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 4: similar fight go like this. I think it was like

2383
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 4: four months ago. Let's throw to the videotape. What the

2384
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:58,640
Speaker 4: hell's going on here, Golden Boy? Oh boy, that's a

2385
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,599
Speaker 4: nice double leg through the second rope there.

2386
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, and boy Jesus he's in pain, good lord.

2387
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 4: Luke Jake Paul. Jake Paul is back on the boxing radar.

2388
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 4: Footage broke out of him preparing at the world famous

2389
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,960
Speaker 4: gym there in Brooklyn. What the heck's name of it? Luke,

2390
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:22,679
Speaker 4: the damn Lessons. Yeah, the damn Gleason's Luke, he says,

2391
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 4: preparing for an August return Tommy Fury, do you care,

2392
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:29,839
Speaker 4: Anderson Silva?

2393
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,640
Speaker 3: I care if showtime has it and I have to

2394
01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 3: cover it and get a check cut. I mean that'd

2395
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:37,720
Speaker 3: be sweet. But short of that, listen, I'll say this.

2396
01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:42,360
Speaker 3: I thought after Tommy Fury's last fight on the Dillian

2397
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 3: White and his Brothers undercard, that was the first time

2398
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 3: I was ever like, I don't know, dude, I think

2399
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 3: Jake Paul might beat this guy because the show he

2400
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 3: had in Cleveland wasn't a great one either, but he

2401
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 3: still was able to like rock that guy a lot,

2402
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 3: and he was this one too. He got a little

2403
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:58,400
Speaker 3: bit on. But I don't know, dude. I think Jake

2404
01:53:58,439 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 3: Paul might have something for him.

2405
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, You know what Dylan Danis

2406
01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 4: had for us video of Jake Paul exiting Madison Square

2407
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 4: Garden after Serrano's lost to Katie Taylor and their thriller Uh,

2408
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 4: getting soda dumped on him like he's leaving the palace brawl. Luke,

2409
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 4: look at that, here's your soda.

2410
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 3: This will keep throwing soda and food at people leaving

2411
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 3: a sports arena is always a dirt bag move. Yeah,

2412
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,639
Speaker 3: there's a caveat to that. Though. It's always funny, Yeah

2413
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 3: it is.

2414
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 4: It is always funny, especially since Jake's wearing that like, uh,

2415
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 4: you know that that sling for his firearm. I don't

2416
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 4: know what that is.

2417
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 3: Don't know what that was either. It's like this is

2418
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 3: where you're holding your extra magazines. I don't know what that's.

2419
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, Luke. Wedding bells are are a ringing.

2420
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 4: Here's Carla Asparza, fresh off her somewhat disputed maybe not

2421
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 4: decision went over Rosanama Unis. It was just an awful fight.

2422
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 4: But Luke, congratulations. That's her new husband on the right.

2423
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 3: I believe that is that's her, No, no, that's her.

2424
01:54:56,440 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 3: That's her managers last agent, Brian Butler, on the left,

2425
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 3: on the left of the screen to her right. Yes.

2426
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 4: TJ. Dillashaw also wore his belt in his wedding photos,

2427
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 4: and I'm told that war Machine did the same, Luke.

2428
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 3: Although it was like imprisoned so okay, well, I mean

2429
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 3: no one, let me just explain to you. You do

2430
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 3: have funny bits as much as I am reluctant to

2431
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:21,200
Speaker 3: admit that you do have funny bits. No one does

2432
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 3: war machine material like you like. And when I say

2433
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 3: no one, I mean like no one else even mentions it.

2434
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 3: You go back to that well more than anybody else

2435
01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:29,960
Speaker 3: I know.

2436
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, sorry, Luke, I'm sorry about that. Let's go back.

2437
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 3: Look.

2438
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 4: Imagine if this was your wedding and they brought out

2439
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 4: the cake. Okay, would your reaction no? No? Oh God?

2440
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 4: Can we zoom in here and show the couple's face

2441
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 4: upon the fall here? Oh the rossies, Luke?

2442
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 3: You know, well, I guess what, dude, you know, here's

2443
01:55:54,760 --> 01:56:00,080
Speaker 3: the thing. This uh, there was so this dude, you know,

2444
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 3: here's the reality. Let me ask you a question, serious question.

2445
01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 3: How much did your wedding cost?

2446
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 4: My wife and I paid for most of it ourselves,

2447
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 4: got some, you know, little help from relatives and friends

2448
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 4: who like donated their time for free to like, you know,

2449
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 4: shoot it and stuff. I don't even remember, but it

2450
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 4: took us a long time to pay it off. In it,

2451
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 4: we both, even though it was beautiful, said afterwards we

2452
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:20,160
Speaker 4: should have eloped.

2453
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,160
Speaker 3: Okay. A better question, how many people were at your wedding?

2454
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 4: The hall only held two hundred and fifty.

2455
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 3: Oh dude, Jesus fuck. No, it was like a barn.

2456
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like a barn.

2457
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so me and my wife, and this was less

2458
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 3: of an issue for me because you know, my family

2459
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 3: probably had to be begged to attend, but her family,

2460
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 3: as you can imagine.

2461
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 4: They had to be lied to. They're like family reunion.

2462
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 4: You got to be there right all the time.

2463
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 3: I think I had we only had forty people at

2464
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 3: our wedding, and I think I had I'm not gonna lie,

2465
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 3: I think eight guests something like that.

2466
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

2467
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 3: So she had the rest of them. And even then, dude,

2468
01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 3: it was like there was people we had to say

2469
01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 3: no to, and that was like it was a whole thing. Anyway.

2470
01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 3: We paid for oursel Let me just explain something to you. No,

2471
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 3: not only was it the best day of my life

2472
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 3: because it's my wedding, but like it was actually great.

2473
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 3: And then we paid for everything. We got like maybe

2474
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 3: a couple grand from like my dad or something and

2475
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 3: maybe some of her relatives, not not much, like just

2476
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 3: a little bit. We paid for everything ourselves. We had

2477
01:57:15,120 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 3: no debt whatsoever. When it was over, we went on

2478
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 3: our honeymoon without having to worry about the bills. I

2479
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 3: got to say, one of the best decisions we ever made.

2480
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 3: Never regretted it for a day, never the.

2481
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,840
Speaker 4: Only regret I had, And it's what made my wedding

2482
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 4: bit or suite. Even though it was a great time.

2483
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 4: It was probably the best dance floor anyone had ever

2484
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 4: seen because I curated that DJ list is the hall

2485
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 4: that we rented, it was like a barn. We didn't

2486
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 4: know it just we assumed. But we didn't know that

2487
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 4: none of them would be there working. We assume that

2488
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 4: when you rent the hall you get like the you know,

2489
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:46,560
Speaker 4: the staff or you know what I mean, Like, you know,

2490
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 4: you hired a caterer, there's catering staff there, but you

2491
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 4: assume there's like a point person that's orchestrating that. We

2492
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 4: didn't know that there wasn't until we got to the

2493
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 4: damn reception. So trying to be that and the and

2494
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 4: the room who just spilt Penny Alavaka on his white vest,

2495
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 4: tie and shirt on the first bite. Yeah, Luke, that

2496
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 4: was me, okay, trying to navigate that while yeah, it

2497
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 4: was it.

2498
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 2: Was a headache.

2499
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you very much for listening to my story.

2500
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 4: All Right, Luke, let's keep the shit going. You're already married.

2501
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 4: This isn't your wedding photo, but a lot of people

2502
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 4: DM me this and said, if you got in the

2503
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 4: best shape of your life right now, you could resurrect

2504
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 4: prime Luke. And this is what you would look like. Luke.

2505
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 4: Here's you potentially looking into a mirror.

2506
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 3: If this is some giant fat person, I'm gonna killy,

2507
01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 3: no zoom in here.

2508
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 4: Please, let's zoom in on all the videos here, Luke,

2509
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 4: that looks strikingly familiar.

2510
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, his haircut is better than mine. BC. I guarantee

2511
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 3: that haircut doesn't cost thirty dollars.

2512
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna point, Oh, that's that's the famous Dubai

2513
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 4: barber who's like Salt Bay. Basically, I'm sure it costs, like,

2514
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 4: you know, twenty five thousand to sit there for it.

2515
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 3: You know, I will say, show him one more time,

2516
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 3: very quickly, very quickly, I will say that is a

2517
01:58:57,160 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 3: uh yeah, that's a distinguished gentleman. I got to say,

2518
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 3: I mean, look, that could be you, bro, What do

2519
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 3: you think I have to lose another fifty pounds, which

2520
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 3: is possible, but yeah, maybe I've admit that guy's his

2521
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 3: haircuts solid.

2522
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 4: You may need need a health condition to get that thin. Luke,

2523
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 4: I'm not sure you know what I mean.

2524
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 3: I'm working on it, bro, it's a fucking struggle. I'm

2525
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 3: working on it, all right.

2526
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 4: Let's have fun. Let's hit the golf course, Luke. A

2527
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 4: lot of people still being influenced by former tour member

2528
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 4: Happy Gilmour.

2529
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 2: Luke.

2530
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 4: Check out this drive. I mean he crushed it.

2531
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 3: First of all. Why is he bet over like he

2532
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 3: just had a heart attack or learned terrible news.

2533
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that's gotta be the most aggressive swing I've

2534
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 4: ever seen, Luke, That's true.

2535
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, his hands could go back, keep

2536
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 3: showing it. We're not done. Could his hands be further apart?

2537
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 3: Look at him, He's got one hand halfway down the

2538
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 3: shaft of this thing.

2539
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's you know. I bet his first sexual

2540
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 4: experience ended in like two seconds, Luke.

2541
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is a three pump chump if all right?

2542
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 4: Speaking of those type of people, Luke, John Daily is

2543
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 4: still drawing large crowds to him being ridiculous. Check him

2544
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 4: out him hitting a t shot off off a beer

2545
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 4: can row.

2546
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:16,000
Speaker 3: John Daly. I fuck it love John Daily. I mean,

2547
02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 3: look at this piece of shit. He is unbelievable. So

2548
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 3: he one time called it. He was a guest on

2549
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 3: like my favorite radio station show or radio show show

2550
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 3: shouts to the Junkies one to six seven the Fan,

2551
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:29,200
Speaker 3: And he was a guest one time, and he has

2552
02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 3: some business where it's like it's like not water, but

2553
02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:34,360
Speaker 3: it's like tasty water or whatever the fuck you know,

2554
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:35,880
Speaker 3: and they were like, why do you have this? Why

2555
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 3: don't you just drink water? He's like, man, I hate water.

2556
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 3: Water tastes so bad. I just hate it. It's like, dude,

2557
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 3: this guy is like a golf savant who is an

2558
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:50,720
Speaker 3: absolute real life version of Larry the Cable Guy. Yes, awesome.

2559
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:53,320
Speaker 4: The only athlete I can compare him to who got

2560
02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 4: to that level of both fame and accomplishment while being

2561
02:00:57,160 --> 02:01:00,080
Speaker 4: that much of like a pos is Tanya Harding, Like

2562
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:00,960
Speaker 4: really like they're like.

2563
02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 3: They're like one in one, but even Tanya was like

2564
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 3: in Tanya was like in good physical condition. John Daly

2565
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 3: is a fat piece of track. He crushed.

2566
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:14,520
Speaker 4: Dude. He I mean, the stories on him are ridiculous

2567
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 4: and they're probably all true. Luke, I mean, he is

2568
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:18,880
Speaker 4: he's interesting. Hey, Luke, check out this uh this tee

2569
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 4: off here at this top golf watch this t shot closer.

2570
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 4: We gotta go full screen.

2571
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 3: Oh dude, wait, that never happens.

2572
02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 4: You ever have that happen with another guy?

2573
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 3: You mean tip to tip? You forgot about tip to tip? No,

2574
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 3: well bring it at all?

2575
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:42,120
Speaker 4: You know. It's like it's like, you know, I already

2576
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:44,640
Speaker 4: put out my country record, my jazz record, now you know,

2577
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 4: and now I'm going back to straight roots.

2578
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 3: Right now you're putting out your war machine record.

2579
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's called from the Can.

2580
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2581
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 4: Okay, Luke, the bank is open on this golf shot. Dude,

2582
02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 4: I don't think this is trickery. I think this is legit.

2583
02:01:57,440 --> 02:01:58,960
Speaker 4: I don't know how many shots they had to do

2584
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 4: to get it, but I got this, dude perfect like

2585
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 4: bullshit that damn.

2586
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 3: Wait, I don't get it. Did they hit they chip

2587
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:11,440
Speaker 3: it in the air and then with the backspin it

2588
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:12,600
Speaker 3: came backwards or did.

2589
02:02:12,480 --> 02:02:15,400
Speaker 4: It bu they carim did off that wall right there?

2590
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 3: Dude, Okay, because I lost the ball and sorry I

2591
02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 3: lost the ball in the in the video, I couldn't follow.

2592
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 4: It like Crabtree came around. All the balls were those

2593
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:29,760
Speaker 4: balls in? Okay? Luke, Big week for karate for defense

2594
02:02:29,840 --> 02:02:33,400
Speaker 4: purposes only, But let's go to karate combat. No mercy

2595
02:02:33,520 --> 02:02:35,360
Speaker 4: in this game, Luke against defence.

2596
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:40,240
Speaker 3: Good lord, damn, my man's just chilling. That's like me

2597
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 3: at the beach.

2598
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:44,240
Speaker 4: Look, I think that's a grounded opponent, isn't it.

2599
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 3: I don't know the rules of karate combat, to be

2600
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:49,440
Speaker 3: honest with you. They definitely have the coolest sets of anyone.

2601
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:52,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. I just don't have time

2602
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:53,760
Speaker 3: for more karate.

2603
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 4: But that backdrop is awesome, and I bet you I

2604
02:02:56,760 --> 02:03:00,240
Speaker 4: basically compare karate combat to like the NHL. If you

2605
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:02,280
Speaker 4: make me watch it, I'll probably love it, right, but

2606
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go out of my way.

2607
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:07,840
Speaker 3: And until playoffs, Yeah, and until playoffs are yes, speaking of.

2608
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 4: Karate combat, this from a few weeks earlier. Check out there,

2609
02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:12,920
Speaker 4: or maybe maybe it's wrong, maybe it's from the same card.

2610
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 4: Check out this running slam Luke.

2611
02:03:16,240 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 3: Oh that was cool. Okay, I like that. That's super cool.

2612
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:23,280
Speaker 4: I mean they kind of took remember BKB pit boxing,

2613
02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:26,400
Speaker 4: They had like a circular area with like the ramps.

2614
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 4: They kind of took that. But I like how they

2615
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 4: utilize the ramps in this game, maybe I'll.

2616
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:33,360
Speaker 3: Start to say, that's pretty cool, that's pretty cool, that's

2617
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 3: a that's like a showtime Pettis takedown.

2618
02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 4: Yes, let's go to these karate showmen.

2619
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:46,480
Speaker 3: Luke bare knuckle shoots the arrow, Adam get into that

2620
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 3: or what I mean? They're just bouncing back and forth,

2621
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 3: not really and he's got a UFC shorts on, Like

2622
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:52,640
Speaker 3: what's that all about? Who's this?

2623
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:55,640
Speaker 4: I can almost guarantee you won't be into this, Luke.

2624
02:03:55,680 --> 02:04:00,120
Speaker 4: When we talk about plane etiquette, right, this is the

2625
02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:02,360
Speaker 4: one percent that grinds your gears, Luke.

2626
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 3: I mean, just throw them off the motherfucking plane. Who

2627
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:07,360
Speaker 3: is this piece of motherfucking trash.

2628
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:11,120
Speaker 4: Imagine if you found out that was KGB's trainer.

2629
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 3: Look, listen, I'm not this person is Whoever this person

2630
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:20,560
Speaker 3: is with their feet up. I want to be clear

2631
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:23,280
Speaker 3: about this. They should be on the FBI's Most Wanted list.

2632
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:26,440
Speaker 3: And I'll make this point too. If this is two

2633
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 3: people where one person has their foot up and then

2634
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:32,600
Speaker 3: another person is rubbing it lovingly, they should be executed

2635
02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:36,000
Speaker 3: by the authorities upon landing or just crash the motherfucking plane.

2636
02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 4: Either way, I don't disagree.

2637
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:42,080
Speaker 3: I think it's again, okay, throng with people that they

2638
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 3: think that that's okay.

2639
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:46,160
Speaker 4: There's a line. There's a line. You can wear flip

2640
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:47,880
Speaker 4: flops on the plane. I do it in the summer.

2641
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 4: I think you could even take your flip flops off

2642
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:52,000
Speaker 4: as long as your feet are stuffed under.

2643
02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 3: You can't.

2644
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 4: No, you can't run.

2645
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:56,240
Speaker 3: No, you can't. You can wear flip flops on the plane.

2646
02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 3: That's fine.

2647
02:04:56,760 --> 02:05:00,040
Speaker 4: Wait, but can I with my with my klie flower toes.

2648
02:05:00,200 --> 02:05:04,440
Speaker 3: With your hammer toes and fungus with with with germs

2649
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:06,280
Speaker 3: the size of turtles. No, you cannot.

2650
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:08,920
Speaker 4: They are a roadmap of my life, Luke.

2651
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, mine or two. I put socks on them.

2652
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 4: Uh finally, Luke, you know that's old saying the parties

2653
02:05:15,160 --> 02:05:18,000
Speaker 4: where you're at. I love people who are like, I'm

2654
02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 4: not in the club, but I'm gonna pretend like I'm

2655
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 4: in the club right now.

2656
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 2: Okay, they should fire you, admit her.

2657
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:48,320
Speaker 4: I don't know how those officers are holding so firm,

2658
02:05:48,440 --> 02:05:49,800
Speaker 4: like they're like a palace guard.

2659
02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:52,800
Speaker 3: And you know in London or something, Luke, that she's

2660
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:57,920
Speaker 3: really just flopping those today's everywhere she can. Then she

2661
02:05:58,080 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 3: twerks on them.

2662
02:06:00,240 --> 02:06:03,520
Speaker 4: Maybe she just works at a diner and they sell pancakes. Luke,

2663
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:05,720
Speaker 4: and this is the best way to advertise. I don't know,

2664
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 4: but that's the shit of the week. Hope you saw it, Luke,

2665
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 4: Thank you. Wow. Two hours today, two hours.

2666
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:13,720
Speaker 3: Two full hours, full hours. That is it, you see.

2667
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:16,640
Speaker 3: Remind the folks, Remind them what we have going on

2668
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 3: on Wednesday.

2669
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 4: So if you're if you missed it earlier, Wednesday are

2670
02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 4: normal time for Morning Combat eleven am Eastern Time on

2671
02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:28,720
Speaker 4: the YouTube's YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. Instead of

2672
02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 4: a regular MK episode, you're getting the launch of our

2673
02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:35,680
Speaker 4: new interview series titled Redshoe Diaries. God, that's a great

2674
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:40,760
Speaker 4: showtime vehicle room service Diaries. You may know the label

2675
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:44,400
Speaker 4: and it's it's previous iteration of just reckless talk and

2676
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:47,280
Speaker 4: ruthless comedy. Well now we've taken that model and we've

2677
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:51,360
Speaker 4: just inserted a UFC fighter episode one, the light Heavyweight

2678
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 4: Champion of the World Glover to share a while. We

2679
02:06:55,120 --> 02:06:57,800
Speaker 4: do have fun and games. You're gonna love the conversation

2680
02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:00,280
Speaker 4: that we have, not only of course about come up

2681
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:03,560
Speaker 4: defending his title against Yeri Prohotzka and Singapore. But we're

2682
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:07,640
Speaker 4: just talking about one of the better backstories of of

2683
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:11,560
Speaker 4: who he became today. That's that's very undertold because of Luke.

2684
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 4: How much of a quiet badass this guy is? I mean,

2685
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:18,320
Speaker 4: dude serious From hanging out with him for a couple hours,

2686
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 4: like he's all that and then some as far as

2687
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:21,760
Speaker 4: a real man right.

2688
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:24,120
Speaker 3: There, you know you would want him to be your neighbor.

2689
02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:26,200
Speaker 3: That was the vibe that I got. You would want

2690
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:28,600
Speaker 3: that guy in your neighborhood for sure, you know.

2691
02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 4: Indeed, look I asked.

2692
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 3: Him, like do the other the neighborhood kids, like do

2693
02:07:32,840 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 3: they know you're a maniac? And he said did they

2694
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:36,600
Speaker 3: come over and ask him to show him things like,

2695
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 3: you know, different jabs or whatever.

2696
02:07:38,960 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 4: I love that.

2697
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 3: I love that.

2698
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:42,000
Speaker 4: I love that that Dan Barry has embraced him that

2699
02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 4: you know, he deserves it all. So check that out, Luke.

2700
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:47,120
Speaker 4: We already have another one that we filmed in the

2701
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:48,840
Speaker 4: can so people are gonna enjoy that. And Luke, I

2702
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 4: hope that they're just you know, they're different flavors every episode.

2703
02:07:52,240 --> 02:07:55,560
Speaker 3: It's like fanta, you know, it's like what's the uh,

2704
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 3: what's the soda that the Juggalos drink?

2705
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 4: Oh, the one right the Uh like no, It's like

2706
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 4: it's like, is it fago fago? Yeah, that's something like that.

2707
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:08,600
Speaker 4: It's a Michigan tradition. Like have you do you have

2708
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:10,840
Speaker 4: you ever drink that that new Hampshire cola? Luke, what's

2709
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:12,440
Speaker 4: it called the Moxie?

2710
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:14,480
Speaker 3: Never had it?

2711
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 4: Oh dude, I love moxie. You gotta try it it

2712
02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:17,560
Speaker 4: could you know?

2713
02:08:17,960 --> 02:08:20,080
Speaker 3: It's Oh, hey, I got some breaking news. You want

2714
02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 3: to hear it real quickly before we go.

2715
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:23,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have any other jobs, Luke. U.

2716
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:28,120
Speaker 3: Kane Velasquez, who had his I think his bond hearing today,

2717
02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 3: will remain behind bars. He was trying to get out

2718
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, not that he was. He would

2719
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:36,920
Speaker 3: still face you know, trial and everything, but that he

2720
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:38,960
Speaker 3: could be like, let's say, on house arrest or something.

2721
02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:42,720
Speaker 3: He will remain behind bars. After Judge Selina Brown to

2722
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:45,280
Speaker 3: not a second request, excuse me for bail, I should

2723
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:48,120
Speaker 3: say not bond this morning. Quote this was such a

2724
02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:53,120
Speaker 3: reckless disregard for human life. End quote. So Kane Velaskia's

2725
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:56,000
Speaker 3: will will remain behind bars.

2726
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,960
Speaker 4: Look. According to reporting on Twitter from Nolan King of

2727
02:08:59,120 --> 02:09:03,040
Speaker 4: mm A Junkie, the official request from Velasquez's defense team

2728
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 4: was They said TBI and potential CTE caused Velasquez to

2729
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:13,080
Speaker 4: act impulsively. So that is the the the attempt that

2730
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:14,000
Speaker 4: the judge shot down.

2731
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:19,400
Speaker 3: Whoa that is so wait wait let me I understand this.

2732
02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:22,120
Speaker 3: That's Velasquez's own team saying.

2733
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:26,480
Speaker 4: That their defense was essentially you know, it's not insanity, but.

2734
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:30,280
Speaker 3: You know, CBI and potential ct caused Velaskiz to potentially

2735
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:34,600
Speaker 3: act impulsively. Wow. So his own team is saying that

2736
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 3: the brain trauma from his mm A career caused him

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Speaker 3: or at least you know, I don't I have not

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Speaker 3: caused him, but aided him or whatever you want to say.

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Speaker 3: The word is to act in the way that he

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Speaker 3: did where he chased the guy down who he thought

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Speaker 3: had allegedly molested his son. Wow. What a terrible situation,

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Speaker 3: bro terrible, terrible.

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Speaker 4: And I get everyone wearing free Kine shirts, and I

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Speaker 4: get the whole you know, the whole dilemma that the

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Speaker 4: whole situation faces. I also get how reckless it was.

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Speaker 4: I get it all. Looke, It's sad, that's what it is,

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Speaker 4: you know, And I think, look, that's probably they summarize

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Speaker 4: would be the best defense to try to get them

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Speaker 4: free correct, whether they believed it or not.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I think they seem to have come

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Speaker 3: up with the best chance that he had, but the

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Speaker 3: judge apparently was not hearing. I'll read up on it.

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Speaker 3: But Nolan King is there so being a lookout for that.

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Speaker 3: BC want to remind everyone Showtime dot Com is the

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Speaker 3: label that pays. You can go to Showtime dot Com

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Speaker 3: get a thirty day free trial. If you like it,

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Speaker 3: keep it. If not, go do something else. You've seen

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Speaker 3: know where to go for all of that. Morning Combat

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Speaker 3: at Gmail. So I guess BC, we're gonna push fan

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Speaker 3: subs to Friday. Is that what's gonna happen? I guess so?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Why not? Well, it'll be a little bit different

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Speaker 4: this week. We're foregoing our actual episode. We'll push fan subs.

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Speaker 4: So we hit up the email for dead wrong or

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Speaker 4: fan subs there it is, yep, Morning Combat at Gmail

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Speaker 4: f with our sponsors to Luke, shout out to Athletic

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 3: We love them Luke fair enough because they protect us,

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Speaker 3: all right, so be on the lookout for Wednesday's interview

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Speaker 3: with Glover to share episode one of the brand new

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Speaker 3: room service diaries for CBS Sports, for Showtime for Malka,

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Speaker 3: for Brian Campbell, the official Viceroy of Connecticut, I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: We will see you when we see you, and until then,

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Speaker 3: may all of your gains be loyal.