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Speaker 1: Jen Mueller. Gosh, it's been so long since we've heard

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Speaker 1: John Boyle from Seahawks dot Com. It has been several

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Speaker 1: But what we know is the conversation around Seahawks football

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Speaker 1: never stops exactly, and especially this time of year, everything

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Speaker 1: starts heating back up again. You get that little lull

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Speaker 1: to come up. People are just in Indianapolis for the Combine,

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Speaker 1: It's the NFL rarely rests is what this league has

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Speaker 1: make sure that that partnership was going to continue. John,

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Speaker 1: I mean I sure seemed like the logical conclusion. Gino

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Speaker 1: some people read into the timing of this a little

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Speaker 1: they had to make that decision by this week. But

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Speaker 1: it's kind of natural timing that it happened right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: the draft. You know what's great about this, Jen, It's

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Speaker 1: not our job to have the answers. We're just here

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Speaker 1: I can give you an answer, sir. You might not

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