1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. The Ravens scored 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: a twenty five to nine win over. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: The Houston Texans. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: It's a size them up Monday, Garrett, when you're all 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: listened to this. We recorded this immediately after the game. 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: But the size of Up month, YEA. 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: Whenever you win, it's Week one, you get a win. 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 3: It's always a good feeling, exactly. 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: So great way to start off the season. Except for 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: the injuries. Yes, you know, a win is a win 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and you. 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Always want to win and that shouldn't be taken for granted. 13 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Despite the Texans record last year and all the different 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: factors that went. 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Into this game. A win's a win. Celebrate it now. 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: The injuries took some of the shine off Baltimore's win. 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: The season ending achilles injury to JK. Dobbins also saw 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: safety Marcus Williams, left tackle Ronnie Stanley, and center Tyler 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Linderbaum all leave the game with injuries and not return. 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: We did not get much clarity from John Harball after 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: the game on the severity of their injuries, that all 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: of them will have MRIs to determine that, but unfortunately, 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: this week one win will have negative consequences or negative 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: ripple effect on next week and beyond as the Ravens 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: get ready to face the Bengals next week. 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that there's no doubt. There's 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: kind of a black cloud hanging over this win. When 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: you look at losing JK. 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: Dobbins. 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: I just feel so badly for him, Like this is 31 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: a guy who I don't know, he just was poised 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: I think to have such a really big season. I 33 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: think we saw that early in this game, like he 34 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: was running great, he was catching the ball. Well, I 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: just feel. 36 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: Horrible Superman touchdown. 37 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: I just feel horribly for him. I just think that 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: he's worked so hard to come back from a devastating 39 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: knee injury that's basically taken two years to recover from, 40 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: and now he feels like he's in position to be 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: back to his old self. You know, he made it 42 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: clear that he wanted a new contract this offseason, and 43 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: that was another factor at play here. He's in a 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: contract season and to suffer this injury in Week one 45 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: when it seemed like, you know, I'm writing notes down 46 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: early in this game about what we're going to talk about, 47 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: and one of the things I've written down was like 48 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: JK Dobbins looks back to his old sef and he's 49 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: gonna be a huge piece of this offense, and so 50 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: I just feel horribly for him. I think that his 51 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: teammates felt really badly for him. I think that like 52 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: being in the locker room after the game, like it 53 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: was people were happy to win, but like there's no 54 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: doubt that, like having that injury to him, just like 55 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: I said, cast a black cloud over the game. And 56 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: it's hard to totally enjoy it when you've got guys 57 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: like Patrick Queen and Odell Beckham Junior, like Borderline getting 58 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: emotional talking about JK Dobbins going down with his serious 59 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: injury and losing him for the season. Like guys feel 60 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: for him. They feel for him personally and mentally. It's 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 3: it's really tough. It's really disappointing. Yeah. 62 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean you could have a heart of stone, you 63 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: could be a Steelers fan for goodness sake, and you 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: still have to ache for JK. 65 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: Dobbs. 66 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, just as a human, right, I mean, all that 67 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: he's gone through and like you said, with the contract here, 68 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know this is why players want their 69 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: long term contracts earlier as soon as they can get 70 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: them right. 71 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: And that's why. 72 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: They make noise at times like this in the offseasons, 73 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: because you never know right and it's always It's just 74 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: kind of another reminder that. 75 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: This game, in this business can be brutal. It just can. 76 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: And there's no you know, it's nobody's fault. Obviously, there's 77 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: no way around it. It just happens sometimes. And unfortunately 78 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: for JK, it's just you know twice now, I mean, 79 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: the guys just had terrible luck, terrible luck. He was 80 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: on the looked like he was going to have a 81 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: breakout twenty twenty campaign. I mean, I thought the guy 82 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: was going to become an NFL superstar and he goes 83 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: down with a preseason you know, in a in a 84 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: preseason three game, you know, or four at that time, 85 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: and yeah, you just you just really ache for him now, 86 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: you know. I'll say that I think that the Ravens 87 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: running back depth is strong. I think of all those injuries, 88 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the position groups at 89 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: which these injuries have happened, and we don't know how 90 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: long Marcus Williams, Ronnie Stanley retired, Linden Brom We're gonna 91 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: be out but if you're looking at the four spots 92 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: where they had these injuries, running back is pretty darn 93 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: deep and talented. 94 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: You have you have Gus Edwards. 95 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: You have Justice Hill, I mean Justice Hill punched a 96 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: two yard touchdown on the very next play after Jk's injury, 97 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: scored another two yard touchdown later in the game. You 98 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: have Gus the bus that you know what he is 99 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: and what he offers. He got loose for one or 100 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: two nice runs. Then you have Melvin Gordon on the 101 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: practice squad, who would not be surprising to see the 102 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: Ravens bring him up. And then waiting in the wings 103 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: is Keith and Mitchell, the undrafted rookie who was so 104 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: spectacular this preseason. So obviously the Ravens are a much 105 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: better team I think with JK Dobbins obviously, but I 106 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: think that their running back depth is strong. 107 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 3: I think it is. I think that JK gave you 108 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: something that that was just different, and it looked to 109 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: me like they were really gonna, at least on the 110 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: early going, they're gonna ride We're gonna ride him. It 111 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: just seemed like, okay, like Jk's been saying, give me 112 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: fee me and give me the app he. 113 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: Was giving it in the game, he was giving it. 114 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: He was giving me to feed me right to play before. 115 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: It just seemed like and they were gonna do that. 116 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 3: It just seemed like that was what was going to happen. 117 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: So losing him like beyond just like the emotional toll 118 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: of it. I think that like it's a very that 119 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: there is a significant impact. I agree that the depth 120 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: is strong there. I think the depth is strong there. 121 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: But I'm also not going to act like it's it's 122 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: not a significant loss. Yeah, no, I agree, and so yeah, 123 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: and then with the other guys, like just basically what 124 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: John Harbo said is they've got to get MRIs and 125 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: then they'll see the severity of it and how long 126 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 3: they're going to be out, So you know, we'll see. 127 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting with Marcus Williams to talk about 128 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: that one like it happened, you know what I saw. 129 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: It happened to a few plays before, and it was 130 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: similar to last year. He basically finished the series and 131 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: I saw he kind of came up for a hit 132 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: and he was he got up slow, and he was 133 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: kind of grabbing his shoulder and chest and just seemed 134 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: to be like uncomfortable. And then there's a few more 135 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: plays that came out and he broke up a pass 136 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: down the field, and there was another had a couple 137 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: tackles like it seemed but he seemed to kind of 138 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 3: be protecting it a little bit to me, And it 139 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: reminded me of last year when he broke his wrist 140 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: and then he stayed in the game for like a 141 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: half after that. Just a super tough dude, but I 142 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: just I saw it happen. I saw him get up slow, 143 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: and I just saw him kind of didn't seem right 144 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: the rest of that series. And certainly hope that it's 145 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: not a long term deal with him because she's such 146 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: an important player for this defense. But you know, that 147 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 3: would be a really tough blow if he's out any 148 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: considerable amount of time. 149 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. 150 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know, Gino Stone is a 151 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: guy who's played significant number of snaps. 152 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: He stepped in before, you know. 153 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: And then you look at left tackle Patrick McCarry, you 154 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: know he has a lot of experience in NFL games, uh, 155 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: And then at center, you know Sam Mustifer would be. 156 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: The guy, right. 157 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: Sure, all these guys have experience, right, but all of 158 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: those would be tough losses if the if they're out 159 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: for any chunk of time. Yeah, specifically Week two against 160 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals. Yeah, you want to have those guys against 161 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: your your biggest rival on the in a big road 162 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: game next week. 163 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's the thing you talk about injuries, Like injuries, 164 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: it's just tough to predict them, and it's like you 165 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: could be great, like that was the story coming again. 166 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: John Harbaugh got asked on Friday, I think, hey, how 167 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: great is it to be healthy? 168 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: You know, finally this team is healthy on ends of 169 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: the years. 170 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden the next day, you know, 171 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: it comes out that Mark Andrews isn't going to play, 172 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: and of course Molin Humphrey isn't gonna play yet he's 173 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: still working his way back. And then Al said, you 174 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: have four marquee players on your team, get hurt one 175 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: of them at least with a season ending injury. I 176 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: mean that's just a rough, you know, rough game with rough, 177 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: rough twenty four hour stretch there, and again hopefully that 178 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: those other three aren't long term, but uh, it's a 179 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: it's a rough opener. And and look, it's great to win, obviously, 180 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: but like, it's hard to it's hard to clust over 181 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: the injuries when talking about this game. 182 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent, hundred percent. 183 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: So unfortunately, injuries are going to be the storyline of 184 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: the week or weeks to come, that will again be 185 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: the predominant narrative or one of certainly of the Ravens 186 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: here early in the season. So we just got across 187 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: our fingers and hope those MRIs turn up. 188 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: Well. All right, let's talk about the offense a little bit. 189 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: That was the unit. 190 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: I think we were all looking forward to seeing the 191 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: most kind of an uneven day. You know, in my estimation, 192 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: never really got to a point where it felt like 193 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: it was rolling. 194 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: You know that there's a lot of momendument. 195 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: It would start to kind of get there, and then 196 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: there would be fumbles, you know, Lamar Jackson had the 197 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: ball punched out of his hand, ones had a bad interception, 198 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: had dropped one that looked like Justice Hill kind of 199 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: bounced off his arm and hit the turf. Just kind 200 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: of an uneven day offensively, saw some spurts, obviously, but 201 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, it was winning. It was winning football. For 202 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: the most part. They won the game, so it was 203 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: winning football. But you know, it wasn't the for all 204 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: the excitement about this new offense and all that stuff, 205 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: it didn't blow the doors off the Texans and leave 206 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: you saying, oh my god, yeah, like this offense is ridiculous. 207 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 3: Now right, No, it didn't. I mean I think what 208 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: I attribute some of that too. I think I think 209 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: a little bit rusty. Basically, the entire starting offense didn't 210 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: play in the preseason. Zay Flowers did for a handful 211 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: of you know, a handful of snaps, but the rest 212 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: and John Simpson did, but the rest of the guys 213 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: really didn't. And so I think that that was. 214 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: Part of just not not really didn't they did. 215 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: They didn't play outside of Flowers, which is fine. I don't. 216 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: Look, look, we're all going to sit here and talk 217 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: about no, no, no, no. I'm still fine with that decision. 218 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: Like you see JK. Dobbins go down. I'm still fine 219 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: with that decision. But like I think to be expected 220 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: that there there's a little bit of rust potential. 221 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit of russ. It's 222 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: a new system in general, so I think that that 223 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: takes a little bit of you know, there's that comes 224 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: with challenge. I also think that, like you had, I 225 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: think there was probably some emotions, Like you had some 226 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: guys that were really eager to get back on the field. 227 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: Odell Beckham Junior made no bones about the fact that 228 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 3: he was just like anxious. 229 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: Was he ramped up for this game? Did he seem 230 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: a little emotional to right? 231 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. Lamar Jackson I think was really eager to 232 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: get back and play. JK. Dobbins, I think was really 233 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: eager to get back and play. Like I just think 234 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: there was a lot of that that probably fact Baitman, 235 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: you were Bateman, Yeah, like go down the line. I 236 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: think that there's probably a lot of that, and that 237 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: I think factored into some of the unevenness and jitters. 238 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: I guess with the offense, I think that, like, I 239 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: think they worked through some of that. I saw certainly 240 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: there were bright spots. I mean when they marched down 241 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: the field in the second half, that was kind of 242 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: the command, the convincing driver of the game. But so 243 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: there were bright spots. But I think that, like it's 244 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: still very much a work in progress. 245 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that. 246 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: You know, one thing when I was working on the 247 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Todd Monkin cover story that opened my eyes a little 248 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: bit was when I got Ryan Fitzpatrick on the phone 249 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: late last week to talk about Monkin. The two play 250 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: together in Tampa Bay, and you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick is 251 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: now analysts for Amazon Prime Football or Amazon Video Prime 252 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and he was just like, you know, 253 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: there's gonna be some inevitable growing pains. You have a 254 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: new offense, you have a bunch of new wide receivers. 255 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: There's gonna be growing pains, right, Like, let's not kid ourselves, right, 256 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: And it was kind of you know, when you've been 257 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: watching the Ravens all off season and there's all this 258 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: hype and there's all this excitement and we've all gotten 259 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: swept up into it, and you've seen it in practice 260 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: and you know it's looked good in practice and whatnot, 261 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: you're just kind of get blind into the fact, like, oh, yeah, 262 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: let's step back and just like look at the bigger 263 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: picture here. There's a lot of new stuff here, and 264 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: so like, maybe our expectations should have been tempered a 265 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: little bit, not too expect it to come out of 266 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: the gates and just be gangbusters immediately. 267 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: I think that's fair, and I think it, like, I mean, 268 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: I think we kind of said that on the on 269 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: some of these podcasts leading into today, like you know, 270 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: you got to keep in mind just where the same 271 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: is in terms of it's new with system and all 272 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: that stuff. So I agree, I'm with I'm with Ryan Fitzpatrick. 273 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: I think that like that is part of this process 274 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: and like beyond just it's new again, it goes like 275 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: it's new. You have some guys that haven't played football 276 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: in a long time, Odell being a huge piece of that. 277 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: So I think that all that is part of the 278 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: growing pains that you're seeing. But like one player who 279 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: I felt like didn't have any growing pains was was 280 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: Zay Flowers. I mean, wow, I think that like talk 281 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: about like surpassing expectations. 282 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: One thing I just want to point out Lamar Jackson 283 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: just defeeded. Rusty is black beet, you know, the curse face, 284 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: but thank you just to you know, so he kind 285 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: of emits, you know, it was a little uneven yeah, 286 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, and little rust there. And Odell golly, he's 287 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: just on Twitter, I mean from that guy or just 288 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: off the chain you know about how grateful he is 289 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: to be back and all that stuff. 290 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 2: But yes, let's turn the page. Zay Flowers. I mean, 291 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: good night, good night this dude. He was a wide 292 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: receiver one in this first game. 293 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised wide receiver was that line on 294 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: Zay is nine catches, seventy eight yards. He also had 295 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: two carries for nine yards, had ten targets in his direction. So, 296 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: like I expected him to be a big piece of 297 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 3: the offense. I'd be lying if I thought he was 298 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: gonna get ten targets. I did not see that. I 299 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: just thought, I just I didn't see that. I thought 300 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: he would be used as some creative ways and they 301 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 3: would get in the ball. But I did not expect 302 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 3: that he would have twelve touches, you know, eleven touches, 303 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: ten targets. When it's all said and done. 304 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: I completely agree. Yeah, I thought it'd be more spread out. 305 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: It almost feels like Todd Monkin. You know, I don't 306 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: think every game is going to be like this, right, 307 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: we'll just say that. I don't think that every game 308 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: is going to be Zay far and away wide receiver 309 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: one in. 310 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: Terms of targets and whatnot. 311 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: Like, I think that you'll have games where Odell is 312 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: clearly the top guy. But it almost felt like Todd 313 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: Monk was like, let's let's let's get this rookie ready 314 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: to roll for the whole season, because he's gonna have 315 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: he he might not be wide receiver one the whole year, 316 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: but he's gonna have a very big role all year long, 317 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: right and uh and it was kind of like a 318 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: let's get him. Let's get him really going just throw 319 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: him in the deep end week one, give him lots 320 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: of touches, like he will be accustomed to NFL speed 321 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: at the end of this game. 322 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what it felt like to me. 323 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: Well that's what Day said after the game. He's like, yeah, 324 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm using to speed now. 325 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, a mission accomplish. 326 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: And it sure looked like it. 327 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Like, I mean, the guy looked like he he looked 328 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: like he played with the swag of a veteran. Yeah right, 329 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: it was not like a rookie where like he just 330 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: looks like his eyes are just you know, popping out 331 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: of his skull, like just like, oh my gosh, doesn't 332 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: know where which sidelines are run to after a play, 333 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, like he just look like I've been doing 334 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: this for years. I know, I'm a dog, Like I'm 335 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna break y'all's ankles whatever. 336 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: It ain't no thing. 337 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he was. I thought he was just 338 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: excellent and and played with the attitude of somebody that 339 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: is not scared. Like that's something that since he's arrived, 340 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: like he has never really been like you know, some 341 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: of the guy's like, oh man, it's it's gonna be 342 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: crazy in my first NFL game, and I got to 343 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: get used to the speed, and like he's been kind 344 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: of refreshing, like refreshingly honest about that stuff. When when 345 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: it gets he gets asked, he's like, yeah, you know, 346 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: it's I gotta you know, I got to just speed 347 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: a little bit. But I think I'm there. Yeah, yeah, okay, 348 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: one game. One game, and. 349 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: Then he woul at one point be like yeah, I 350 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: thought college was kind of harder. 351 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like he's not scared, and I love the 352 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: way that he plays. He's gonna be a huge piece 353 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: of the offense. And yeah, I just great debut for 354 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: say Flowers. 355 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean the guy dropped dropped the NFL linebacker on 356 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: like his second play in right, just. 357 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: Well that's the thing like I expected him to have, 358 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: like some like highlight reel juke moves, but like, like 359 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: I expected that, like the drop in the linebacker on 360 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: the second play, like that didn't surprise me. It was 361 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: the volume that went to his direction, Like that is 362 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: what really stood out to me. Like, Okay, I knew 363 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: he would make some highlight reels and like right, I 364 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: mean it's kind of like in the in the preseason 365 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: what he had that one carry where he broke a 366 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: guy's ankles, but then it was like one yard carry, 367 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: and it was like, well that was a lot more 368 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: than one yard carry. It was more much more exciting 369 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: than that. Like I knew that he would have those 370 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: like highlight reel moments. I just didn't realize that, like 371 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: the volume would be there right away to the level 372 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: that it was. So I think that bodes well for 373 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: the future. I do think that, Like you know, Lamar 374 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: said this after the game. He made the point that, 375 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: like there's a lot of guys to get involved, and 376 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: so I think that like they are going to spread 377 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 3: it out more. I didn't get the sense at all, 378 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: like the offense after the game was like, oh man, 379 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: we're great. You know that was that was a stellar effort. 380 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,359 Speaker 3: Like I think Odell someone asked him like this basically, 381 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: you know, do you feel like this was like the 382 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: appetizer to what you guys can be. And he made 383 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: the point that like it was kind of an undercooked appetizer, 384 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: Like they feel like they have a lot more left. 385 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: They've got a lot more that they can they can 386 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: get to. And so he said, there's a lot of 387 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: things I got to clean up. He pointed at himself 388 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 3: and said, there's things I got to clean up. And 389 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 3: and so I think that that's kind of the feeling 390 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: of the offense after this game, like glad to get 391 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: the win, of course, but they feel like there's a 392 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 3: lot more meat left on that bone. 393 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: Oh, there absolutely is. 394 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: I mean I thought for Odell, you know here he 395 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: didn't didn't get a whole lot of action early in 396 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: this game. It was kind of like, all right, you know, 397 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: I think both of us were kind of feeling like, yeah, 398 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna get Odell one. 399 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: Like maybe the first play the game. 400 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 3: I thought the first play of the game was going 401 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: to I just thought it was gonna happen. I said 402 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: it on the podcast last week. I was like, I thought 403 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the case. 404 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, not the case. You know, he did draw a 405 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: couple you saw kind of the savvy veteran in drawing 406 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: a couple of long pis, you know, the one underthrown 407 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: ball by Lamar, and he kind of sells it trying 408 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: to get back to that ball and really sells the 409 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: contact against the defender like that's just a veteran. 410 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 411 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: And then the twenty nine yard passed down the middle, 412 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: he kind of makes the basket catch over the shoulder. 413 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: Just a really pretty throw, really pretty catch that catch that. Yeah, 414 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: that was a great catch, great throw. That's the kind 415 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: of play that I expect to see a lot more 416 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: be seeing Lamar Jackson and OBJ for sure. 417 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I also think that, like, honestly, 418 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: there was a play it was on It was the 419 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: play where Lamar fumbled where he was kind of trying 420 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: to scramble and was carrying the ball out of his 421 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: body and then ended up fumbling it. But on that 422 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 3: play and the Ravens recovered that, but just kind of 423 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: not really protecting the football. But on that play, Odell 424 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: was actually wide open deep down the field in the 425 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: end zone, and you know, Lamar kind of took off 426 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: to run on that play. But you know that lamar 427 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 3: Odell was open, So I think that they he's going 428 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: to get his his shots and his opportunities. And like 429 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: the stat line two catches, When you have two catches 430 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: for thirty six yards, I think like he'll have much 431 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: bigger days than that. And I think that you change. 432 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to short change anymore man. I don't 433 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: want to short change a man. But add in those 434 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 3: two penalties too, and it's like, okay, like that's pretty 435 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 3: solid day for a debut of a guy who's been 436 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: out of football for the last you know, two years. 437 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 2: Almost Yeah, absolutely agree. 438 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's say Breagan then we'll foot it over 439 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. 440 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: We're coming to you from the seat Geek studio here. 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You got to be over 450 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: twenty one and physically present in Maryland to play. All right, 451 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: So defense, great showing by the defense, I mean Rokwan Smith, 452 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: no surprise is dominant. Guys got sixteen tackles sixteen. 453 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: I just saw that. 454 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 3: Sixteen tackles, sixteen tackles yees sixteenth good and uh. 455 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: I asked in a sack. 456 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 3: And a sack and two tackles for loss, and I 457 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 3: has to have. I was like, what got idiot there? 458 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: Like you played like a man possessed. And he's like, eh, 459 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: it's just good to be playing ball again, and like 460 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: that's just what he expects. Like he's just like, yeah, 461 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 3: that's just how that's just how it goes. And I 462 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 3: got the sense from Roquwand this week that he was 463 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: eager to hit some people. And there's a few times 464 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: and practices where it's like, oh, this guy wants to 465 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: hit some people again. And so in training camp really 466 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: and and I. 467 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: He had he had a really good stop on that 468 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: fourth down play. 469 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: He's just like everything right, He's always in the right place. 470 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 3: If there's anything that leaks through, like he cleans it up. 471 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 3: And him and Patrick Queen like that. That tandem is 472 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: something special. Like it they are the best one two 473 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: punch at that position in football, and they played like 474 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: it today. I just think that that those two guys 475 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: are great. I think there. I think that the heart 476 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: and sold the defense, Like, I think that's what that's 477 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: where this thing starts. And this defense is going to 478 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 3: be as good as those two guys take them. And 479 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: I think it's I feel pretty good about that. 480 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Mean one hundred percent. I mean totally shut down the 481 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: run game. We talked about some of the keys to 482 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: the game coming into this. Damian Piaris is a good 483 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: running back for the Houston Texans. Eleven for thirty eight. 484 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: That was his day with a long of seven yards, right. 485 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: I mean you talk about making a team one dimensional 486 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: against a rookie quarterback the check, yep, that's what they did. 487 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: CJ. 488 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Stroud threw the ball forty four times. That's the kind 489 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: of stat line that you want against a rookie quarterback. 490 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: And now I thought Stroud like played pretty well. Yeah, 491 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: I agree, you know, I mean didn't turn the ball over, 492 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: he didn't have he did well, he did actually what 493 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: David a job and made sure that but didn't have 494 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: any interceptions, one sack strip, but you know, he went 495 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: twenty eight to forty four for two forty two. Seemed 496 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: to get better as the game went along. But I 497 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: thought the Ravens making them one dimensional certainly helped, and 498 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: that leads to some of those sacks and some of 499 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: the sack strips and all that stuff, especially with the 500 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: Texans having a banged up offensive line where they lost 501 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: the right tackle part way through the game. So you know, 502 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: I thought the Ravens defense it was kind of mission 503 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: accomplished across the board, and even without Marlon Humphrey, uh 504 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: and even losing Marcus Williams early in the game or 505 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: in the second quarter, I thought that they played pretty 506 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: well in the secondary. Also, I thought Brandon Stevens held 507 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: his own, Ronald Darby made some plays, tackled well. I thought, 508 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, they completed some passes. That's gonna happen when 509 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: you throw up forty four times. Yeah, but I thought 510 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: pretty pretty good job by the Ravens defense all across 511 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: the board. 512 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you don't give up a touchdown. That's a 513 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: pretty good game for your defense. Like you give up 514 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: nine points, give up nine points, We'll take it. They 515 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 3: had ten quarterback hits on C. J. Stroud in five sacks, 516 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 3: And we've kind of talked about how the pass rush, 517 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: like I don't think that it's gonna be from one guy, 518 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: is gonna be kind of a group effort, and that's 519 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 3: exactly what we saw today. Roquwan Patrick Queen get one, 520 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: justin Mattabiker got one. Who am I missing out? And 521 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: then of course a job but with a strip sack 522 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: and Jadevian Clowney had a couple slip out of his 523 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: grasp there. So he's going to be you know, he's 524 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: going to make some of those plays. So like the 525 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: pass rush, yeah, I thought it was. I think you 526 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: come out of it feeling pretty decent about the pass rush. 527 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm not going to act like Stroud was under dress 528 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: the entire game, Like there's times where he had you know, 529 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: he had he had time to sit back there and throw. 530 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: But I thought that he got cranked up in the 531 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: second half more certain. 532 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: I think the Ravens made it hard on him, and 533 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about just the overall defense is showing. 534 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: It's hard not to feel good about the defensive showing 535 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: as a whole, Like when you just look at it 536 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 3: a big picture. Nine points. No, like that's great, that's 537 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: that's a great start to the season. 538 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely. I mean you look at a guy 539 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: like a Jabo, and again, he's so young in his 540 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: football career. He's going to get better as the season 541 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: goes along and he plays more snaps. But I'll tell 542 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: you what, if you get one sack strip in a 543 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: game the Ravens recovered it, by the way, that's a 544 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: good game. You had a good game, you know, so, 545 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: like I care what you do on the other snaps, 546 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: but you get one sack strip that we recover. Job 547 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: well done, buddy, you did your job today. 548 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: Oh you can tell his teammates. 549 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, on the sideline, Ronnie Stanley was really talking 550 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: in his ear. All the defensive guys came up and 551 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot of helmets slaps on the sideline. 552 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were very happy for I. 553 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: Think he was kind of hearing, you know, the questions 554 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 3: about the preseason and as we said, like I'm not 555 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 3: overreacting to nineteen snaps in the preseason, but I think 556 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 3: he felt that, you know, he felt those questions and 557 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 3: so it was it was a big moment for him 558 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: to get that play and felt really happy for him. 559 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: So that's good. I mean, I think that's I think 560 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: that's really good. Another I think interesting note defense defense wise, 561 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: is it was Ronald Darby who got the start opposite 562 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 3: of Brandon Stevens. And just like just and Brandon Stevens, 563 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: that's who, that's who. You're two starting corners were Brandon 564 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: Stevens and Ronald Darby and of course Marlin's out. But 565 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 3: I think that a lot of people felt like Rocky 566 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 3: scene would be the guy in one of those starting spots. 567 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: You know, they gave him a nice contract this offseason 568 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: and and you know, felt like he could be that guy. 569 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: But it's ends up being Derby, who the Raven signed 570 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: late in the process. Rock dealt with a soft tissue 571 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 3: injury during camp and missed some time and it was 572 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: working his way back. So I think that was a 573 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: huge it was a knee Oh you're right, You're right. 574 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: I think I was like a big factor in that. 575 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, Derby, well yeah, I. 576 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: Mean to me, to me, this just says who's looking 577 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: better in practice. That's what it says to me. 578 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Rocky Ronald Darby and didn't get there until 579 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: late midway to late in training camp. Yeah right, So 580 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: you can't sit here and say, well, Rock is scene 581 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: missed a lot of time because the THEE so that really, 582 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, it was a determining factor. 583 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: Ronald Darby wasn't even on the team. Yeah, yeah, true 584 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: all summer, you know. 585 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: So to me, it's just like they they I think 586 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: they've been pretty clear about they felt like Ronald Darby's 587 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: looked good in practice, and to me, that's probably what 588 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: made this this call. You know, it's who's who's playing 589 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: better out there. That's what it comes down to. And 590 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, we'll probably hear from John Harball and what 591 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: went into that decision, but that's what I would expect 592 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: it would be. 593 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did say after the game that with Rock 594 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 3: you know that he's he's continuing to work his way 595 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: kind of back and he missed some time, you know. 596 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: So so Harball just say that, like Rock being sidelined 597 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: was a played a part. It was not opening the 598 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: door at least, And but yeah, you're right, Ronald Darby. 599 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: It's not like Ronald Darby's been here since April. I mean, 600 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: the guy was got here a month ago if that, 601 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 3: and so credit to him, because keep in mind, he's 602 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 3: coming off of torn a cl from last year, so 603 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: he like, this is a guy who of all all, 604 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: you know, we spent all the time talking about other 605 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: players coming back from major injuries. He's one of them, 606 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: and he just got here a few weeks ago. And 607 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: so to get out there and get the start, I 608 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: thought it said a lot about him. He played well, 609 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: and yeah, I think I think Ronald Darby deserves a 610 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 3: lot of credit there. 611 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: I also think that art Arius Washington. Yeah, you know 612 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: how many times I got to talk about the slot. 613 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: It's only I should have brought this should have been 614 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: the lead. 615 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: Washing played in the slot and played pretty darn well, 616 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: comes up with the sack. 617 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 2: It was a really nice play, real good feel for 618 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: the court of C. J. 619 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: Stroud being about ready to step up in the pocket, 620 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: kind of slid underneath and got that sack. Good game, 621 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: good start for him, six tackles for oard areas. I 622 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: thought he had a good game. And then you know, 623 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: another player. I'll be interesting to see what this interested, 624 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: to see what the snapcounts look like. It seemed like 625 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: Malik Harrison saw a fair amount of actions. 626 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: They kind of were using Malik Harrison basically as that 627 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: Sam as the Sam linebacker, which Malik is one of 628 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: the beauties of him as he can play inside or outside. 629 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: But the Ravens are so deep and talented inside, so 630 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: they've moved him outside and so he gets those early 631 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: downs of that outside linebacker spot. He can pass rush 632 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: a little bit too, but yeah, they put him at 633 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: that Sam spot and then they kind of let Bowser. 634 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: It seemed be more of just a true pass rusher. 635 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: You mean a job. 636 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so sorry, sorry a jabo. They let a 637 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: job would be more of that, just true pass rusher. Yeah, 638 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: and I think that worked out pretty well. 639 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when we were talking about Damian Pierce and 640 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: tell thee yeah, set the edge like you needed that. 641 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: You know. 642 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: One thing I think defensively, the Ravens got to clean 643 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: up a little bit his penalties justin Atdabee Gay called 644 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: for multiple Travis Jones extended one drive with the late 645 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: hit on the quarterback. That now, calling that roughing the 646 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: passer would be a stretch, but he opened the door 647 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: for the reft to throw that flag with a two 648 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: arm kind of shove extended shovey you do that, you're 649 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: going to get flagged in the NFL, and so kind 650 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: of a learning moment for him. 651 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: I think, you know, cutting down on some of those penalties. 652 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: The Ravens had just too many, too many in this 653 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: game really for I'm sure that's not what you want 654 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: to see. How many was it was like ten? What's 655 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: the penalties here? Thirteen for one oh six. I mean 656 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: both teams that Texas had nine for eighty eight. Yeah, 657 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: that's just a lot of penalties. Yeah, the rest of 658 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: throwing the hanky today. 659 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were. And I do think that could also 660 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: be somewhat connected to, you know, no preseason and slappiness. 661 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: I think that all could be a part of that 662 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: as well. 663 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. So anyway, any other final 664 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: thoughts for you, Garrett. 665 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: I think this is a kind of a quick turn 666 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: the pager, Like it's it's look, the Ravens were big 667 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: favorites in this game. They expected to win this game. 668 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: Texas are coming off you know, a season, you know 669 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: where they had the number two overall pick, new coach, 670 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: a lot of new players, Like this is a game 671 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: that Ravens should win, and they did, and they took 672 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: care of business. And I think they pretty quickly are 673 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: turning the page to the Bengals game and knowing what's 674 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: on the horizon there. Like Ravens feel like they've got 675 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 3: unfinished business there. Rook wants Smith told me the interview 676 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: coming right off the field, like we're gonna enjoy this 677 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: one tonight, but it's it's a quick turn the page. 678 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: You feel pretty good about our chances going in there. 679 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: Ada Fe always said the locker room after the game, 680 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: like I'm already thinking about that Bengals matchup. So like 681 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: I think that there is a quick turn the page here, 682 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 3: knowing what's on the horizon, you know, and they're going 683 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: up against the Bengals team that's gonna be hungry too, 684 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: after they had a really tough showing against the Browns. 685 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: You know, no one expected that. After Joe Berg is 686 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: the big contracted, their offense does nothing, So they're going 687 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: to be, you know, eager to get back on the 688 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: right track and that game next week is going to 689 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: be fun to watch for sure. 690 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: Well, thanks for listening. 691 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 1: As always, you can read us at the Lounge at 692 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 1: Ravens NFL dot net. 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