1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Hello, Sophie. How are you today? Wow, that's how you're 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: starting with podcasts, Margaret, I am well, thank you so 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: much for asking. Thanks. I'm glad to hear Brodie, how 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: are you? Um? Yeah, I'm also going to call out 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: this niceness. What is this? I'm just kidding. I'm great. 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: How is the weather? I want to know? Right, it's great. 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: My hair is wet and I need to dry it, 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: so it's perfect, excellent, excellent. Closer to the heat Death 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: of the Universe. Yeah, yeah, that's why I like joke 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: about the heat definitely universe and I'm like, we're just 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: the heat Death of life fund Anyway, Um, this is 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: cool People Who Did Cool Stuff a podcast about people 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: who fight against bad things. We don't currently live in 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: a time with a lot of bad things, which is 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: why we have to look to history for our heroes. 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: And this really doesn't reflect about anything about the present. 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: We just yearned for the past. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Um. 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: So this is part two. I go back and listen 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: to part one or you'll lose some context. This is 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: part two of a two part series looking at some 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: Japanese women who liked bombs and disliked tyrants. Let's get 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: into it. On the very first episode of Cool People 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: Who Did Cool Stuff, I told the story about the 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: Haymarket affair. There is this labor uprising in Chicago that 25 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: left several anarchists martyred by the state. In that story 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: is the story of a young man, Louis Ling's, a 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: poor German immigrant who died at twenty three seven by 28 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: suicide in prison. He'd been imprisoned more or less for 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: the crime of being an anarchist, and his trial had 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: been this massive scandal that captivated the nation. He also 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: wouldn't have minded doing what he had been accused of doing. 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: He just probably didn't do it. So today I'm gonna 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: go thirty six years into the future from then six 34 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: thousand miles away across the Pacific, to tell the story 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: of Konko fukum As, a young Japanese woman who's another 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: anarchist who died by suicide in prison at the age 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: of twenty three m I to a massive scandalous trial 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: that captivated the nation. You said you didn't like spoilers, 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: but um, yeah, you kind of started with the most 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: exciting stuff. But that's okay. I mean, it'll be like 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: Colombo who done it. Well, she did. It was a suicide, 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, totally. Well actually it's funny. Um well, 43 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: we'll get to it. It It was like kind of a 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like maybe she maybe they did 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,279 Speaker 1: this to her, maybe they killed her in jail. Um 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: And we'll get into that. But so Kindikofumiko was an anarchist, 47 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: but unlike most the rest of the Japanese movement, which 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: was concerned with labor organizing and social revolution and all 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: of that, she was a nihilist at the core of 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: it all. She she fought for the freedom of all people, 51 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: but she did it more out of a desire to 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: destroy the existent rather than specifically work on what to 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: replace it with. And her philosophy was more about celebrating 54 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: and embodying life by acting on desire, even if that 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: desire led to her own death. That was her Okay, 56 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: he did in this anarchists, Yeah exactly. Yeah. And I 57 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: want to start by reading a short bit of transcripts 58 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: near the end of her trial, because I think it 59 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: really frames her will. And this is quoted in a 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: book that's actually really good. Just bite the title of 61 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: the book. The book is called Treacherous Women. Of Imperial 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: Japan by Helene Bwen Raddicker. And and it's actually it's 63 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: like it's saying like treacherous women in a good way, right, 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, like this episode might be called ungrateful women. 65 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: You know. So Judge name Fumicomico fumom Judge age. According 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: to you officials, it's twenty four, but I myself seemed 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: to recollect being twenty two. But speaking frankly, I don't 68 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: believe either. Whatever my age, it is no bearing on 69 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: the life I'm living now anyway. That's how I'm going 70 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: to answer when people ask me how old? Yeah, can 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: you play? Yes? I am yeah, sir whatever. Judge family 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: status Humico divine commoner rather than you know, divine emperor 73 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. Judge occupation Umico, My occupation is the demolition 74 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: of what now exists, which I'm planning on putting on 75 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: maybe business cards, I'm not I'm not sure. Judge address Humico, 76 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: Tokyo prison. She's snarky, yeah, exactly. That's how we know 77 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: she's not lying about that. Okay. So she's born in 78 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: three Probably she was she was born out of wedlocks 79 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: or birth was never registered, which causes all the mess 80 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: figuring out like figuring out her age. You know, the 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: official records would say one thing blah blah blah, but 82 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: eventually both of her parents were like yes, three. Her 83 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: father was an abusive alcoholic from a Samurai family who 84 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: refused to marry her mother because he was a classics 85 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: little ship, a misogynist. Every morning he would drag out 86 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: the families thousand year genealogy scroll and be like we 87 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: were descended from royalty and make everyone bow to the scroll. Mhmm. 88 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: Her mother was a peasant. Dad didn't like that he 89 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: was dating a peasant. She wound up with the family 90 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: named Kinnico her mother's name, and then Japanese naming convention 91 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: places the family name before the given name, as I 92 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: understand it, so her given name is Fumico, and that's 93 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: what we're going to call her from here on out 94 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: rather than and so ever. Since the Meiji Restoration, people 95 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: had to be officially registered to do much of anything right, 96 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: because centralization will do that to you. Just funny, because 97 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: I actually like, like you were talking about earlier, like 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: overall the major restoration seemed like mostly do good ship 99 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: mm hmm. But I keep running across like some also 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: real bad ship that it. I mean, like any government 101 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: institution or whatever. It's of course bad from her perspective, 102 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to live in it. But at the 103 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: same time, it was like, this is a period when 104 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Japan was coming out of isolation, um really and or 105 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: this might have been also during some isolation as well too, 106 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: but like they were kind of falling behind technology wise, 107 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: and I think during this period they were only trading 108 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: with the Dutch, and they have like a very weird 109 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: friendly relationship with the Dutch. Okay, yeah, I'm like, I 110 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I understand why people get fascinated by Japanese sister. 111 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's the uniforms, I said. I think all 112 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: people really care about as the freaking close in the architecture. Yeah. 113 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: And and swords, yeah exactly, like if you know, Europe 114 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: didn't hold onto the swords as long and just not 115 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: as cool. Swords are cooler than guns, exactly. So for 116 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: the first years of the first nine years of her life, 117 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: uh is basically a non person and when she started 118 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: when she started school, she wasn't even registered in the classes. 119 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: She just was auditing the classes. And also her her 120 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: parents didn't have enough money to give her She was 121 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: supposed to like give a present to the teacher, but 122 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: she couldn't afford it, so that was like messing up 123 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: her ability to go to school. And then eventually she 124 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: was registered as her mom's sister. Like basically she was like, 125 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm the daughter my grandparents or whatever, which is a 126 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: common work around for children of unmarried parents. She wanted 127 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: to learn how to read. Dad refused to teach her. 128 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: Mom didn't know how, and she was kind of one 129 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: step above an orphan. Her dad is this piece of 130 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: ship who drinks and hits everyone. He's too proud to 131 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: work most jobs because he's like from the samurai class 132 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: or whatever. He spends all of the family's money on 133 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: gambling in brothels, and then he leaves Fumico's mom for 134 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Fumiko's mom's sister. Yeah, I know, I know he's gonna 135 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: come back with some hits later too. Fumo's mom not 136 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: much better. I started off being like I actually even 137 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: had written in the script on the first run through. 138 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: It was like, but I understand, she's a single mom. 139 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: It's really hard you know all of this stuff. And 140 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: then as I learned, as I learned more about her 141 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: later I'm like now, Fumika's mom wasn't much better. She 142 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: drifts around and is pretty much absent, and at one 143 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: point considers selling FuMO to a brothel. She's like eight 144 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: or nine at this point. One day, one of her 145 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: mom's boyfriends bound and gagged young Fumico and left her 146 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: hanging from a tree by the river. I maybe as 147 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: someone eventually found her and brought her home the a 148 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: family scavenged for trash in the street. She didn't have 149 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: a fucking good childhood, right. She's finally registered and becomes 150 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: a real person. This is a year after Suga has died, 151 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: just from context whatever, and her mom finally gets rid 152 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: of her successfully. She gets sent to Korea, which has 153 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: just been annexed by the Japanese Empire, to be raised 154 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: by her dad's mom, whose family was part of the 155 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: colonial administration and who made its money by renting farmers 156 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: back the land they had stolen from them in the 157 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: first place, and then loaning money to the Koreans that extortion. 158 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: It rates. She's a good way to get money if 159 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: all you care about it's getting money, m hm. And 160 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: so she goes to Korea to be raised by her 161 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, grandparents, and her life is ship in Korea. 162 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: She's basically an unpaid made Her grandmother hates her, punishes 163 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: her constantly for the slightest infraction. Made it real clear 164 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: that she's unwanted. It's like fairy tale. It is. It's 165 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: it's messed up, Like you read a tale like Cinderella 166 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: and you think that it's just like a rare thing 167 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: that someone made up for a story, and it's actually, 168 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: oh yeah, this is actually extremely common back then. This 169 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: is this is most people's lives. Yeah, yeah, because like yeah, 170 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: you're like, you know, like, oh, okay, she's secretly a 171 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: rich kid, and I'm like, no, she goes from eating 172 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: trash on the street to being an unpaid made who's 173 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: yelled at every day. Yeah, and she she lives in 174 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: this fancy place with a family who tells strangers that 175 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: she's not related to them. They're like literally like, oh, 176 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: this is just a poor orphan that we picked up, 177 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, because they don't want to admit. But and 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: she's forbidden from telling anyone the truth. She's also forbidden 179 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: from playing with the neighborhood kids because they're Korean. She's 180 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: forbidden from doing anything that might damage her fancy clothes. 181 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: So also when she goes to school, everyone picks on 182 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: her for being a rich kid. Right, she can't. She's 183 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: wearing nice clothes and can't get them dirty or she'll, 184 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: like you know, suffer. So at twelve, she contemplates suicide, 185 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: and she decides instead that she's going to take out 186 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: her anger on society, not herself. So she decides knowledge 187 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: is power, Right, I'm going to learn everything I can 188 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: and wield power against society, which is the most super 189 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: villain origin story. But I don't know whatever fun Yeah, 190 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: and and the only people who show her any any 191 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: kindness while she's in creative the Koreans themselves. And so 192 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: at this point, I probably gotta explain the Japanese colonization 193 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: of Korea, So let's do that. Yeah. So, so Japan 194 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: had been trying to conquer a career for this long 195 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: as time. Like. The first time they started was two 196 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: invasions in fift and they were beaten back largely by 197 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: guerilla armies called Righteous Armies, which were made up of 198 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: a mix of scholars and peasants and utist warrior monks 199 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: and ship There's got to be movies about this, and 200 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: I want to see them totally exist, and they beat 201 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: back the largest C invasion the world had ever seen. 202 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: At that point, three hundred thousand Japanese soldiers land in Korea. 203 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: It took until d Day for there to be a 204 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: larger CE invasion, and you know, obviously proportionate of population 205 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: um then and then, but they're beaten back. Around the 206 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: end of the twentieth century, they finally do successfully take 207 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: control of Korea. In eighteen seventy six, a treaty assigned 208 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: that ends Korea's status as a protector of China and 209 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: passes them off to Japan instead, and Japanese businesses start 210 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: to open. By nineteen o five, they're under the sphere 211 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: of Japanese influence. By ten they're officially part of the 212 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: Japanese Empire. And obviously this doesn't go down without a fight, 213 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: but it's a fight that Koreans lose MHM. And And 214 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that it worked this time, right 215 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: is because instead of just showing up with an army, 216 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: they first showed up with businesses. They first showed up 217 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: with economic interests. They first showed up and did you 218 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: know something that's very familiar to people in the twenty 219 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: one century, like economic colonialism. Yeah, they proceed to do 220 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: colonial ship. They tear down huge chunks of the Korean 221 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: Royal Palace and turn the rest into a tourist attraction, like, 222 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: look at these people we conquered. Yeah, a hundred and 223 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: seventy thousand Japanese settlers come over and settle on stolen land, 224 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: which is and then the Koreans have their land stolen, 225 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: and then not all of it, but huge chunks of it, 226 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: and then they become tenant farmers, like they have to 227 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: rent back their own land. Korean peasants get conscripted into 228 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: labor building the infrastructure, and like you'll you'll run across 229 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: people who write like this all modernized Korea and says like, oh, 230 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: well they ended up with infrastructure at least, right, because 231 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: they all got conscripted to build structure by a foreign power. Exactly. Terrible. 232 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: It's like it's funny because even the Japanese themselves a 233 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: thousand years before that were invaded a lot by the Chinese, 234 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: and their writing system even today is still stems from China. 235 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: Actually it's they the kanji that they use derives from China, 236 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: even though it's been branched off, and it is very 237 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: different now. It's um, you know, it's it's almost like 238 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: sometimes I can read a word and be like, oh, 239 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: this is almost like um reading Spanish in English. It's 240 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: like these are the same alphabet, but I don't know 241 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: what the funk this is telling me to do. Yeah, yeah, 242 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, And I feel like that's important to write 243 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: because it's like, again, I'm not trying to be like 244 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: Japan is an evil empire filled with evil like it's 245 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: it's just not the case. It's governments. Governments do these 246 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: things exactly. There. There's it's when you study history and 247 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about actually I do know 248 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: a lot of and yeah, it's a lot of people 249 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: just have the same problems that we have now. It's 250 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: just rich people who are too greedy who decide to 251 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: do with everyone else and want more and hire people 252 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: to go to war for them, and it's a it's 253 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: a mess. Yeah, there are whole species deserves to die. Yeah, 254 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: you would actually agree with Young Fumiko actually shifts off 255 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: of that by the end, but that is absolutely her 256 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: position for a while. Yeah, So the Japanese show up, 257 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: they destroy the forests and then replant them. With Japanese 258 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: trees so that the Japanese people feel more comfortable. That's 259 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: the definition of shade. Yeah. Koreans are forced to worship 260 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: at Shinto shrines like some people like just show up 261 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: and leave, and some people actually start praying there, and 262 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: you know they in nineteen eighteen, Japan has this rice shortage, 263 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: and so they forced Koreans to produce more rice, export 264 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: more rice, and then go hungry themselves, which is familiar 265 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: to anyone who really likes potatoes and or the country 266 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: of Ireland. And the largest rebellion against all of this 267 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: was the March First Movement of nineteen nineteen, which led 268 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: two million people joining hundred antioccupation demonstrations more or less 269 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: all on one day. I'm not crazy expert in it. 270 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: That's named the March First Movement because happens in March 271 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: one and they declare the independence of Korea. The Japanese government, um, 272 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: but do you want to guess how they felt about 273 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: whether or not to respect this independence that they declared. 274 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: They were totally for it. They were like, you guys 275 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: have been through a lot. We're gonna listen. We're here 276 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: to listen, We're here to learn. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and 277 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: there's been reparations to this day. Uh no, m no. 278 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: They actually decided they don't care for it, and so 279 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: their reaction is swift and brutal. The police and military 280 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: kill more than people. They weren't twice as many as that, 281 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: and they arrest forty six thousand fucking people. Just I 282 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: don't even I assume that they're not even being keptain 283 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: jails at that point, I assume they're being keptain. Japan's 284 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: not as cool as a lot of people think it is. Yeah. Yeah, 285 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: there's like there's cool stuff about you know, it's like 286 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: there's cool stuff about all of these people. Right, they 287 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: got that show where the toddlers go outside, but other stuff. Yeah, yeah, 288 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: And a bunch of the people get publicly executed for 289 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: the participation, and maybe another country shouldn't rule our country. 290 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: And this is it's actually noteworthy that they were executed 291 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: because actually part of the Meiji Restoration reforms is that 292 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: the number of crimes that are punishable by death goes 293 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: down dramatically. And so when we're talking about all these 294 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: executions today and on Monday, it's really easy to be like, oh, yeah, 295 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: they're just you know, killed a lot of people they 296 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: actually didn't write. They didn't. It's kind of like, I'm 297 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: kind of this might be a stretch, but sort of 298 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: like how the US has capital punishment, but it's it's 299 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: not the go to Um. Yeah, I hear you. I mean, 300 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: like a lot of history before, you know, things like 301 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: even just the television were extremely brutal. I don't think 302 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: people understand how much more brutal governments were before we 303 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: got iPhones. Yeah, totally, yeah, I got in another episode 304 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: I talked about like other people in England would uh 305 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: hang drawing quarter people and oh, yeah, it's it's not 306 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: it's not polite, you know. So the Japanese occupation of 307 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: Korea is it's real bad news. It ends up actually 308 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: lasting until when Japan and surrenders at the end of 309 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: World War Two, and then everything's happy for Korea ever since. 310 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Just kidding. The USSR and the US split up Korea 311 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: like the spoils of war cutting up a Turkey and 312 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: basically North and kras South Korea have been at war 313 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: ever since, and mostly not a hot war, mostly a 314 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: cold war, but hor a fun times. Back to Fumco. 315 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: So she's in Korea and she's being mistreated by her 316 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: colonial family that hates her, and she gets real anti authoritarian. 317 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: You'll be shocked to know h after the March First 318 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: Movement is crushed in and she's sixteen years old, she 319 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: gets sent back to Japan and she's supposed to like 320 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: go get married or whatever, right, but this is not 321 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: not her plan. You will be also shocked to know 322 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: that she doesn't want to go get married because she 323 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: has to acquire superhero super villain levels of knowledge. Right yea, 324 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: she has a society to fight against. So her dad 325 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: shows up and he's like, I'm so sorry, I'm so bad. 326 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 1: I'll be a good dad now, which was a plot 327 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: to sell her into marriage to her own uncle as 328 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: end priest and who was also legally her brother because 329 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: of the fun treat with the registration. Yeah. Fortunately, and 330 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: this is one of the advantages of of sucking around. 331 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: She gets caught dating a boy her own age and 332 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: her uncle was like, oh, never mind, your dirty horror 333 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: and not a virgin anymore, so he decides not to 334 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: marry her. So when in doubt, find an age appropriate 335 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: person of a gender you're attracted to and fuck them 336 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: if you have problems, you know, Yeah, exactly. So she 337 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: can't handle her father anymore, and so she sucks off 338 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 1: to Tokyo. It's she's seventeen, and once she's there, she 339 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: gets job as a newsy, which is mostly a job 340 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: for boys, but she convinces her employer that she's more 341 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: of a boy than a girl. Anyway. She's like, look 342 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: I in my character. This is later she writes about 343 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: her autobiography. She's like, in her character gait, speech and 344 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: general behavior, more of a boy than a girl. So 345 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: she gets an advance on her salary as a news 346 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: eh and goes to schools full of mostly boys because 347 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: most of the schools for girls were like about needle 348 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: work and ship. She wants to study math, English, classical Chinese, 349 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: and she wants to go to medical school. Every day, 350 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: she goes to school until four pm and then sells 351 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: newspapers till midnight. Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know what 352 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: time in the school started, but I'm assuming this to her. 353 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So on the street she's selling papers, and 354 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: she sees the city because she's just basically hanging out 355 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: by this bridge selling newspapers, and she sees soapbox orders 356 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: the Salvation Army, an opposing Buddhist salvation Army that didn't 357 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: like the Christian Salvation Army. She tries to get into Christianity, 358 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: but it doesn't stick, I think, because she keeps sleeping 359 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: with people and she wants to and she doesn't like 360 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: the people that she can't. So she starts selling. But 361 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: while she's sort of Christian, she sells soap on the 362 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: street at a soap vendor's stand. This doesn't pay her 363 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: well enough too in order to keep going to school, 364 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: so she can't keep taking it. So she becomes a 365 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: living made for a Christian family, but she didn't have 366 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: time for class if she's a living made. And she 367 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: hated them because they're all rich hypocrites who oppressed everyone 368 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: and she eat on each other and we're just real 369 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: bad folks. So she gets a job at a socialist 370 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: newspaper and along the way she dates various boys, but 371 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: she's just fucking pissed at how noncommittal they are, how 372 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: they refused to take her seriously, and the general attitude 373 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: that of being used right. She she refers to it 374 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: as she gets treated like a toy by the boys 375 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: that she's dating, and she doesn't like it, And she 376 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: came to Tokyo just in time for this off swing, 377 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: and the leftist movement across every level of society rites 378 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: the blooming again after the winter period. The government is 379 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: full of young blood who want parliamentary rule, and the 380 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: masses are full of communists and anarchists and feminists. Despite 381 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: constant repression, she stays out of this. She works for 382 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: the newspaper and all this other ship, but at her 383 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: core she's a nihilist. She's twenty one. She worked days 384 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: as a living waitress at a socialist restaurant called Socialists Do. 385 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: I'm I can imagine this, but not easily, you know, 386 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: like you have your restaurant called socialists Do. Yeah, probably 387 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: not the same alliteration. Yeah, no, no it's not. It's um. 388 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: I wrote it down in Japanese, and then I didn't, 389 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: and then I deleted it when I made my final script. 390 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: And in exchange for tuition, basically, she's like, all right, 391 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: I get room and board, I work here, and you 392 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: pay for my schooling and it seems to work out 393 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: well in general. She goes to classes at night. She 394 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: still doesn't join any formal movement. She's pissed that the 395 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: socialist boys are just as shipped her as the regular boys, 396 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: which unfortunately is not surprising, and she borrows books on 397 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: politics and philosophy from one of her best friends, this 398 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: woman who's a fellow student, who's a nihilist, and gets 399 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: her into all this philosophy, and she writes about her 400 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: political awakening them the quote this, This is from her autobiography. 401 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: I knew what socialism preached was true, but I could 402 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: not accept socialist thought in its entirety. Socialism seeks to 403 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: change society for the sake of the oppressed masses, But 404 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: what would it accomplish truly for their welfare? Socialism would 405 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: create a social eppeaval for the masses, and the masses 406 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: would stake their lives in the struggle together and those 407 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: who had risen up on their behalf. But what would 408 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: the ensuing change mean for them? Power would be in 409 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: the hands of leaders, and the order of new society 410 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: would be based on that power. The masses would become 411 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: slaves all over again to that power. What is revolution, then, 412 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: but the replacing of one power with another. Even one 413 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: did not have an ideal vision of society. One could 414 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: have one's work to do, whether it's successful or not, 415 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: was not our concern, it was enough that we believed 416 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: it to be a valid work. I want to carry 417 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: out a work on my own for I feel that 418 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: by so doing, our lives are rooted in the here 419 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: and now, not in some far off goal. It's pretty cool. Yeah, 420 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: so that's like you earlier You're like, well, yeah, it's like. 421 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: Nihilism is the most amorphous fucking word in the English 422 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: language as far as I can tell, you know, like 423 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: it can get it can mean so many different things. Um, 424 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: so this is what it means to her, And and 425 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: she writes about this, and she basically says, and I 426 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: actually really like, I'm not a nihilist. Um, I actually 427 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: do believe in the specific creation of better societies. But 428 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: but I I really like this attitude she has, which 429 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: is that we all have our one true task and 430 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to fulfill the task, you only have 431 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: to work at it nice. And then one day, as 432 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: she's living her life, she reads a poem in a 433 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: journal by a young Korean poet and nihilist named Paciol 434 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: and she basically is like, I like this poem so much, 435 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find this guy and fall in love with him. 436 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: Typical a right typical Nathan Fielder fan. And I think 437 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: this is why twenty three year old boys right poetry. Yeah. 438 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: So her friends introduced into him, introduced him to tak 439 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: and he's been a rickshaw driver, a maleman, a ticket scalper, 440 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: and a longshoreman. Some of the longshoreman's unions were Korean 441 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: at that point. As I understand, basically, the Koreans living 442 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 1: in Japan are living as this, you know, essentially permanent 443 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: underclass m hm. And but he's unemployed at the time 444 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: that they meet. He's living, as his friends put it, 445 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: a stray dog. He stays with and relies on his friends, 446 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: and he writes poetry, and he does odd jobs and 447 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: he like publishes anarchists, you know, newspapers and ship um. 448 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: And I want to say I've known people like that, 449 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: but really I'm just actually describing my own early twenties 450 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, yeah, it could work. If can get it, 451 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: then your other friends do the work. Oh, I see 452 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: the problem in this plant. Okay. So, so he comes 453 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: to visit her at work at her request and then 454 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: waits for her as she left school one day, like 455 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: goes and waits into the trees as she leaves school. 456 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: And they have their first date. They go to a 457 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Chinese restaurant and neither of them understand the etiquette around tea, 458 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: and they like flirt over their awkwardness about not knowing. 459 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: Like both rich people ship and something from another culture. 460 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: It like bonds them. But our girl Foumi com he's straightforward, 461 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: she said, And I'm actually I'm usually paraphrasing when I 462 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: say things as cheeky is I'm about to say, but 463 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm quoting her autobiography. I'll get Troy to the point. 464 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: Do you have a wife or well, if not exactly 465 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: a wife, someone like, say a lover, because if you do, 466 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: I want a relationship to just be one between comrades. 467 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Well do you? And he's like, no, I'm single. She says. 468 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: I'm Japanese, but I think I can say I'm not 469 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: prejudiced against Koreans. I wonder, though, if you have any 470 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: feelings against me. He replies, no, it's not ordinary people 471 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: that I hate. It's the Japanese ruling class. And I 472 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: even feel a bond with people like you who aren't prejudiced. 473 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: So far, so good. There's only one test left in 474 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: the way. Okay, are you working in the nationalist movement. 475 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: She asks, and he says, I sympathize, but now I 476 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: am paraphrasing it. He's like, I sympathize with it, but 477 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm an anarchist and I basically can't participate in the 478 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: nationalist front directly, right. I have to fight for independence 479 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: in my own way, not for the nation of Korean. 480 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: And this is the answer for whom he goes looking for, 481 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: partly because it's not just being like, oh, you can't 482 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: be like because like nationalist aren't cool. It's actually because 483 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm Japanese and I don't want to be 484 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: doing anything shitty by like fucking with your ship. It's 485 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: a match. Fumico pays for the food because he's a 486 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: fucking crust punk um and but they sort out that 487 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: she has more money than him. I think he offers 488 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: to pay, and she's like, oh, I got it. And 489 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: she finally meets a boy who takes her seriously and 490 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: doesn't treat her like a toy, and I love their 491 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 1: loves or they Paciole for his part, he had been 492 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: born a commoner, born of commoners, just going back forever. 493 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: His father had died when he was for His mother 494 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: was very kind and loving. He was very much a 495 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: mama's boy. He was really good in school, but he 496 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: had to drop out to work on the family farm 497 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: to make enough money. So he runs away from home 498 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: and he goes back at fifteen in order to go 499 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: to school anyway, and he guess all into radical politics, 500 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: but he saw that swapping out Japanese rule with Korean 501 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: rule wouldn't bring people out of poverty, so you know, 502 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: it becomes an anarchist. Seventeen, he moves to Tokyo and 503 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: the two of them, now that they're together, they they 504 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: end up in a crew of and this gets really 505 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: messy because they basically made up new names for their 506 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: groups constantly, and they were like, oh, yeah, we're we're 507 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: an official organization called the Outlaws or the Society of Malcontents. 508 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: But they like they changed their name when they're bored. Yeah, 509 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: they're like bands, I get it. Yeah, yeah, totally totally, 510 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: and you know, and that's the Society of Malcontents is 511 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: one of the main ones that they get called because 512 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: mainstream papers love to complain about all the malcontent Koreans, 513 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: so they're like, yeah, we're fucking malcontent. What do you 514 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: fucking want that sounds cool. Yeah, And they published a 515 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: bunch of different newspapers and you know they're probably just 516 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: sucking zines and or maybe they're full on magazines or 517 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: maybe their news you know, I don't, I don't know. 518 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: I dare zines ones called black Wave because you know, 519 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: they because they're not they're anarchists and others called the 520 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: Insubordinate Korean or the title is actually translated also as 521 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: the Cheeky Koreans. Mm hmm. Just funny because earlier I said, 522 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't usually say something so cheeky as this. 523 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not actually not a word. That's part 524 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: of my right to their vocabulary because I've been thinking 525 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: about the Cheeky Koreans for days and added back in, 526 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is getting a couple more rotations this week. Um. 527 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: So they actually right fairly moderately. They're super radical in 528 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: their politics, like personally, but they're writing really moderately because 529 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: their whole point is that like we're trying to actually 530 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: change people's minds, right. And then the other thing is 531 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: is that they actually have advertisers, Like there's like department 532 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: and stores and ship advertising in their papers. That's funny, 533 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: and the history books I read are like, you know, 534 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: we're not actually really sure whether this is like earnest, 535 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: like this department store was like, oh, yes, this is 536 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: where we will find our customers, or if basically they 537 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: showed up and we're like, it's such a nice story 538 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: you got here. Wouldn't it be a shame of the 539 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: people around here thought you were the enemy of the 540 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: working class? Mm hmm. So maybe it was extortion. Maybe 541 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: it was regular advertisers, much like how this is how 542 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: we get our own advertisers on the show, isn't that right? Yeah, 543 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: see Sophie's not in Yeah, so here are the ads 544 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: from people who have very nice department stores, and we 545 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: are back. Okay, Bomico's family doesn't like her, right, Her 546 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: family is not the best people. Her family sucks. Yeah, 547 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: her family was here punched in the face and they 548 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: would deserve it. They also, you will be shocked to 549 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: know this are racist. Oh, they formally disinherit her because 550 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: she's living with a Korean um. In court later, this 551 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: is like not like in court that because they're all 552 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: on you know, and they're like, why did you disinherit her? 553 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: And they're like because she's living with a Korean. So 554 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: they move into a flophouse together and they talk about 555 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: how the rich and they're like, you know, then and 556 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: become like common law husband and wife, but they don't 557 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: get married m and they're like, well, rich people get honeymoons, 558 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: but we're not rich. So we're gonna publish political tracks 559 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: together to celebrate our relationship. And then in addition to 560 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: writing stuff, they decide, or rather Pak and his friends 561 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: actually first decide, without Fumico's knowledge at the beginning, we 562 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: should get our hand on some bombs because there's this 563 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: problem or there's an emperor. You see. It's a very 564 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: similar problem as people have faced in the past m hm. 565 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: And so they decided to solve the problem directly, and 566 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: Fumiko finds out that they've been trying to get bombs 567 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: and not telling her, and she's fucking mad. She's like, 568 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: you said you would be treating me as you're equal 569 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: in a comrade, and he's like, I'm fucking sorry, and 570 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: from you know, classic sorry babe, yeah exactly, like oh yeah, 571 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: totally yeah, and it's you know, he might have been 572 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: like trying to protect her. She clearly didn't want to 573 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: be protected or whatever. He's He's not without his faults, 574 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: but I think he's he's doing way better than everyone 575 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: else that she's ever dated. It's it's hard to tell 576 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: exactly how far into planning the assassination they got. It's 577 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: like they might not have had an actual specific plan, 578 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: and they might have they might have been but the 579 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: specifically they're actually not going after the Emperor. They're going 580 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: after the Crown Prince was soon to be the Emperor. 581 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: They want to introduce him to a stick of dynamite 582 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: and see how that the pair of them get along. 583 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: And once again, part of the reason they're doing this 584 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: is because people say the Emperor is descend into the 585 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: gods and that the Emperor is a god, and they 586 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: wanted to prove he was a human being by watching 587 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: him die like a human being. Or, as Fumaco later 588 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: said in court, the notion that the Emperor is sacred 589 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: and august is a fantasy. The people have been led 590 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: to believe that the Emperor and Crown Prince represent authorities 591 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: that are sacred and inviolate. Nominee is another word I 592 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: don't know how to pronounce, but they're simply vacuous puppets. 593 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: The concepts of loyalty to the emperor and love of 594 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: nation are simply rhetorical notions that have been manipulated by 595 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: the tiny group of the privileged classes to fill their 596 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: own greed and interests. So that's her justification. She goes 597 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: to try and find some bombs. She would have been 598 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: great on Twitter too. I know she probably would have 599 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: gone rested for what she said on Twitter, but she 600 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: would have come out with a lot of I know, 601 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: would be a really good threat. The quote tweets would 602 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: have been worth it. Um. And then while they're running 603 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: around trying to find a bomb, one of the deadliest 604 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: earthquakes in human history hits Japan. Have you have you 605 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: heard of this? The Kanto earthquake of I'm not sure 606 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: to put you on the spot. I just like, literally 607 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: don't know how much, not that one specifically, but I 608 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: just know that they have a ton of earthquakes. Um, 609 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: they're right by fault line. It sucks. Yeah. Yeah. On 610 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: September one, the Conto earthquake leveled much of Tokyo and Yokohama, 611 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: just the second largest city in Japan. Mhm. This it 612 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: only lasts four to ten minutes. In those four to 613 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: ten minutes or the resulting result of it. The death 614 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: toll stands at one five thousand, three five people filled 615 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: by the earthquake. Many are killed by fires that raged 616 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: throughout the city. Some people get their feet stuck and 617 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: melted asphalt and couldn't run away from the fires. A 618 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: single fire tornado hid an army depot and incinerated thirty 619 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: eight But who are sheltering there? Uh? People couldn't put 620 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: out the fires because the water mains were broken. Mud 621 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 1: slides buried houses, an entire village fell into the sea 622 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: thirty ft high. Tsunami waves struck the coast within minutes. 623 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: One point nine million people are left homeless. Thirty seven 624 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: miles away from the epicenter. The quake moves a hundred 625 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: tons statue of Buddha like two ft h And unfortunately 626 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: the Emperor was off somewhere else at the time, so 627 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: he's totally fine. H. And then things got bad. Yes, yeah, 628 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: in the wake of the earthquake, he started blaming Koreans. Uh. 629 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: They not for the earthquake itself, but for the fires. 630 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: This is like how they blamed um like tornadoes on 631 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: gay people. Yeah, a couple of years ago. Yeah, I 632 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: wish I had this power, you know. Yeah, And so 633 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: there's rumors that Koreans are running around starting fire and 634 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: poisoning wells. It's possible the government started those rumors. They 635 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: definitely at least repeated the rumors and proclaimed as part 636 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: of their official proclamations starting it all, quote, Koreans and 637 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: socialists are planning a rebellion and treacherous plot. We urged 638 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: the citizens to cooperate with the military and police to 639 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: guard against Koreans. And they declare martial law and send 640 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: seventy thousand soldiers out into the streets. And during all 641 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: of this, right, the Korean longshoreman unions go out and 642 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: do what leftist do when there's crisis, actually what people 643 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: do when there's crisis, usually when they don't do the 644 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: other bad thing we're about to talk about, and they 645 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: start to immutulate. They run around and just start feeding people, 646 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: and they're just trying to take care of people. They're like, 647 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: we're an organized group of people who carry around heavy 648 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: ship for a living. Let's go fucking save some people, right, 649 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: But they had red flags with them, and that was scary, 650 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: and people don't like being scared, so they got angry, 651 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: and so violence ensues. And when there are these massive 652 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: wildfires out west, you know, in the Pacific Northwest, people 653 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: from all of these like like mutual aid groups formed 654 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: and went to small towns as a mutual aid disaster relief, 655 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: and then armed right wingers who were also from out 656 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: of town showed up and blamed them for starting all 657 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: the wildfires. Um, so something's never change. Yes, if you 658 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: look at enough history, a lot of political things are 659 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: very predictable in a sad way. Ye, yeah, which is 660 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: actually in a weird way. It's like part of why 661 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: I study history. I mean, like part of we can 662 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: like fuel inspired that people actually can like step up 663 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: and do things. And part of it is just like 664 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: literally like you know, I don't know, if you're playing 665 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: a video game and there's like the swinging blades that 666 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: you gotta run past, you like looking at them for 667 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: a fucking minute and figure out what the fucking pattern 668 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: is before you run through. You know. So this means 669 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: open season on Korean's biggetts run around and massacre all 670 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: the ethnically Korean people they could find. Six to ten 671 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: thousand people get murdered in all of US vigilantes, which 672 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: of course, includes cops and military set up checkpoints and 673 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: just kill people. They like have people show up and 674 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: they're like, pronounced the following words, and if you pronounced 675 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: it with an accent, they kill you. And I promised 676 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: you swords in this episode, and I also told you 677 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: that I'm very sorry about how the swords get used. 678 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: One of the one of the images that sticks with 679 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: me from this whole thing is that people would go 680 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: and take down their grandfather's katana off the wall, right 681 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: from the Meiji restoration era stuff, and run around and 682 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: then go murder the ship out of people. At one point, 683 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: the army arrested three thousand people and then just murdered 684 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: three hundred of them. And and it wasn't only Koreans 685 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: who got targeted. Chinese folks and other ethnic minorities were 686 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: mistaken for Koreans and killed. Even Japanese people with regional 687 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: accents couldn't pronounce certain words right, so they would get murdered. 688 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: And in some cities a quarter of the Korean population 689 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: was killed. So and credit words due some of the 690 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 1: cops in military actually do try and stop the violence. 691 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: It was kind of like a crap shoot. If you 692 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: ran into cops of military, whether they were going to 693 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: help you or kill you. But some of them run 694 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: out and try and stop the violence. And for good 695 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: and bad motivations, they placed twenty four thousand Korean people 696 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: into protective custody. Right, and this actually saves a lot 697 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: of people's lives. But this will this will shock you. 698 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: They use it to be bad. Oh man, They like 699 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: they are in the movies one time. I know, I know, 700 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: they just round up and kill everyone they have their 701 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: eye on. Anyway, right, the socialist, the anarchists, and the communists, 702 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: all all three of those, like major political leftist parties 703 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: lose leaders during this time. Uh. Some of the anarchist 704 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: who got killed was this couple who was the most 705 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: prominent feminist in Japan and then the most prominent anarchists 706 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: in Japan and their six year old nephew get killed. 707 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: And there's one story where they had killed in the 708 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: street and thrown into a well, and there's another story 709 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: where they're in protective custody and strangled to death in jail. 710 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: Years ago, I met some Japanese anarchists who gave me 711 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: a zne about the martyrs of the Japanese anarchist movement, 712 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: and there's a bright kning number of like actual literal 713 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: like under ten years old children in their zine about martyrs. Interesting. 714 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: The one upside is September one is now a disaster 715 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: prevention day in Japan, with people like Drill about how 716 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: to deal with tsunamis and typhoons and ship I hope 717 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: it includes curriculum about how not to become a racist 718 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: murdering bob. Yeah, this was only a hundred years ago, insane. Yeah. 719 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: Uh so that's the earthquake and the massacre and the massacre. 720 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: It's not looking good right. The government is like, okay, 721 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: First of all, the newspapers can't report on this for 722 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: a couple of days, and in the meantime, we need 723 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: someone to take the blame. So why not some dirty 724 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: Korean anarchists to take the blame? Why not Parkile or Pacule? 725 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: His name gets spelled both ways, but I believe it's 726 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: pronounced pack m hm. So after the earthquake, both Fumiko 727 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: is not even Korean and Park were taken into a 728 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: quote protective custody from which Fumco actually never returns. Almost 729 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: certainly they got arrested right away because cops have been 730 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: tracking the organization because let's be real, they were like 731 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: not really good at their job of being revolutionists. Um yeah, 732 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean they were printing a lot of literature. They 733 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: put themselves out there. Yeah, and they've both been arrested 734 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of different times through various demonstrations and actions. 735 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: Pack you all used to beat up anyone who's like 736 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: stealing from the movement. Um, they get charged with vagrancy 737 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: while they're in jail, and the reason they get and 738 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: first of all, it's a little weird that the government 739 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: decides to charge people of vagrancy. Now at one point 740 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: nine million people are homeless. But worse, the police actually 741 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: set them up to be arrested for vagrancy because they 742 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: went to their landlord and said, look, these two aren't 743 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: coming back, so rent out to someone else. So they're 744 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: evicted while they're in jail, and they're like, oh, you 745 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: don't have a home. I guess you're a vagrant. I 746 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: guess you belong in jail. Yeah. A bunch of the 747 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: rest of their friends, mostly Korean, get arrested as well. 748 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: Most of these are released. One guy, Kim Chun han, 749 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: got charged with explosives but not high treason in the end, 750 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: I think he's the one who went to Shanghai to 751 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: get bombs from and I actually failed at this. I 752 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: think I think they I think in the end they 753 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: didn't even have any fucking bombs m hum. And it 754 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: was his lover, who, probably under torture from the government, 755 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: had informed on everyone. I don't want to call her 756 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: snitch because I think she broke under torture, and I 757 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: believe those are functionally different things. Um. But she told them, Yeah, 758 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: they're trying to get bombs from Shanghai to kill the 759 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: imperial family and Fumico herself. She's in jail. She confesses 760 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: this was a really bad plan. Um. This is pretty 761 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: much the mistake that ends her life. And because in 762 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: the end there's actually not that much material evidence except 763 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: for uh, fumaco IMPACT's own confessions m hm. But they're 764 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: in jail, they're facing all this crazy ship and they 765 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: decided to get married. Uh. They have been sort of 766 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: against getting legally married, but then they decided, let's get 767 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: legal be married. For a couple of reasons. One the 768 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: legal protections that allow Fumiko to be buried alongside Pok 769 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: in his family graveyard, and Korea rather than have her family, 770 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: her family who sucks like fuck to get her body. Um. 771 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: But it's also this fuck you to Japan, right because 772 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: she's a Japanese woman and she's going to marry Korean 773 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: and it's like bad or whatever. But there's all this 774 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: really interesting ship where some of the people involved in 775 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: their case are like kind of sympathetic to them, and 776 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: I think I think it's partly because they know that 777 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: they're just being fucking set up. Um. They get allowed 778 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: to take their portrait together around the time of their 779 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: wedding and things before they get married, and this photo exists, 780 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: and because they're like last nihilists, they take the scandalous 781 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: photo where Pak is sitting in a chair and Fumic 782 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: goes close up against him and she's reading a book 783 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: and his hand is just like on her tip um, 784 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: and it's just like yes, here we are, you know, um, 785 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 1: everyone should google this photo. And then after this photo 786 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: they're left alone for a conjurgable visit it and their 787 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 1: trial is a big funk off deal, especially in Korea 788 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: of course, but Japan is obviously following it too, and 789 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: people know the point of this trial is to come 790 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: up to cover up the massacre. They're trying to retroactively 791 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: justify the martial law that they've declared m HM and 792 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: Fumiko and Pack know it too, right, so they're defiant 793 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: as fucking court. The first day, they both show up 794 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: in traditional Korean garb, which they were like, I had 795 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: to go through a lot of hoops in order to 796 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: do because of this big uproar, and overall they're just like, 797 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: continue to just be like fuck you the whole time 798 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: they're in court, and you know, their defiance get met 799 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 1: gets met with uproar. In the courtroom, everyone's applauding, so 800 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: it becomes a closed trial. Public can't see it anymore. 801 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: Fumico said to the court, quote, you'd better kill me. 802 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: However many years you keep me in prison, if you 803 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: let me out into society once more without fail, I'll 804 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: show you I can start afresh. I'll show you I 805 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: can annihilate myself and save you the trouble. Come come, 806 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: send this body of mine anywhere you like, even to 807 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: the scaffold Choji prison. Bodies only die once. Do as 808 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: you please. If you do something like that with me, 809 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 1: it would just be proof positive for me that I've 810 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: lived my life to the full. I'll be satisfied with that. 811 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: Mhm um. So she knows what she wants. Yeah, that's 812 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: extremely badass me. I don't think I'll ever get to 813 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: that point. Yeah. Throughout history, there's all these times where 814 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: like left us get you know, an anarchist, I get 815 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: thrown up in court and and like some portion or 816 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: like fucky, I did it, I'll do it again. And 817 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: then there's another portion it's like I'm real sorry approach 818 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: on that, and then like I'm real sorry, buds like 819 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: you usually go to jail for a while, but are 820 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: like more likely to go home in the end, you know. 821 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 1: And I am not picking. I am not picking between 822 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: those two. I'm holding both options open. I'm not committing 823 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: to it to find I'm more like, fuck you, I 824 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: did what I did, and I'm going to sit in 825 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: my cell and wait my time. Yeah totally yeah, and 826 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 1: then when I get out, I'll be good, and I promise, 827 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: because like whatever, I mean, when you get out, you 828 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: do whatever you want, you know, but you know who 829 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: else wants you to do whatever you want? Is it 830 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: one of your sponsors? It is it is actually well, 831 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: it's actually the toddlers who smile unsolicited don't solicit smiles 832 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: for people especially Yeah, that's right, thank you, as well 833 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: as these other advertisers. And we are back and things 834 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: that are not looking good, except they are looking good 835 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: because their motivations are entirely opposite of what my motivations 836 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: would be at this point, because they get sense to 837 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: death on March, and ten days later, fearing riots and backlash, 838 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: especially in Korea, the emperor pardons them and gives them 839 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: life in prison instead. And it's actually quite possible that 840 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: the judge the entire time had been trying to get 841 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: them to be a repentant so that he could get 842 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,839 Speaker 1: away with giving them life in prisoners and of death 843 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: to avoid all this political scandal. So a lot of 844 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: times in the trial it was like kind of like, mon, 845 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: aren't you logally a little bit sorry? Like look how 846 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 1: bad your life is? Don't you think it's like And 847 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: they also were like you com plead insanity, you're like 848 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of crazy, right, So actually, in a lot of 849 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: ways their strategy at trial was literally, how do we 850 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: get the death penalty? How do we take control of 851 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: our own lives? And like control this narrative the only direction, 852 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: the only direction that we know how to control it 853 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: interesting and it and their insistence on on their own 854 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: guilt of treason right because there's the high treason is 855 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: their charge. It frustrates the government's plan, and the courtroom 856 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: drama was just about how the story would be presented 857 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: to the world. So this is her whole fucking plan. 858 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: When she's given her pardon, Fumico tears it up to 859 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: shreds and her cell while crying, says to the chaplain 860 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: and prison officials, you toy with people's lives, killing or 861 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: allowing to live as it suits you. What is the 862 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: special pardon? Am I to be disposed of? According to 863 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: your winds? She doesn't like it, And then in prison 864 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 1: she writes more than two poems, writes her untitled autobiography, 865 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 1: Jealous um Yeah, and she she her biography just goes 866 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: up to when she meets Pack and then cuts off 867 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: there because it's like going to be kind of like 868 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: part of her It's part of her defense strategy in 869 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: a way, it's part of her like let me show 870 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: you how fucked up the society has, let me show 871 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: you what happened to me in my life. And but 872 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: kind of interestingly, right in prison, she becomes more optimistic 873 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 1: of a person like her. Nihilism remains, but it becomes 874 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: this way to affirm the beauty and joy one can 875 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: find in life, and she's no longer on the like 876 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: fuck it, humanity should be over. Now you know I 877 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: can't relate. Well, you just clearly need to go to 878 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: jail for hi. No, no, one shouldn't do that. Get 879 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: some poetry written to She makes another confession near the 880 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: end of her trial, and she confesses that she wasn't 881 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: as guilty as she had claimed. She's like, look, I 882 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 1: only heard of the bomb plot after they failed to 883 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: get the bombs, and she didn't do this because she 884 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: wanted mercy. It was actually just that she basically wanted 885 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: to have the record be accurate and honest, um and 886 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: she didn't want to like stolen valor basically right. She 887 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: didn't want to, like claim to be more badass than 888 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,959 Speaker 1: she was, which is funny because I struggle to find 889 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: people who are more badass in history. M hmm. At 890 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: one point, when she's still in school, she's talking to 891 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: her best friend, who's another nihilist, about death and what 892 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 1: there is to fear in it. Umko told her friend, 893 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: I can state from my own experience that what people 894 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: fear and death is the loneliness of having to leave 895 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: this world forever. Though people may not be consciously aware 896 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: of all the phenomena around them under normal circumstances, the 897 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: thought that that that which makes them themselves be lost 898 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: forever is a terribly lonely thing. So she she writes 899 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: and thinks about suicide, and then the headlines in Tokyo 900 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:07,240 Speaker 1: on July read from a hemp rope tied to iron bars, 901 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: death by hanging in the bright morning sunshine. Kniko Fumico 902 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: hanged herself in prison under the very noses of those 903 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: checking on her every ten minutes or so, and her 904 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 1: death is recorded as suicide. Right, she had been refusing 905 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: to eat. She had been refusing work. Detail that the 906 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: women in the prison did this is a little bit 907 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: odd to me. The work detail that women in the 908 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: prison we're supposed to do was we've hemp rope. So 909 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: she had been like, all right, fuck it all work, 910 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: give me, give me some empor we've a rope. So 911 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: she weaves a rope and hangs herself, and prison authorities 912 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: tell her mother and offer her mother the body, which 913 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: is like not the plan, right, Fortunately, her mother's a 914 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 1: piece of ship, so her mother refuses to take the 915 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,359 Speaker 1: body um Instead, her mother apologizes for her ungrateful daughter 916 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: having killed herself instead of doing what she was supposed 917 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: to do what the emperor told her to do, which 918 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: is live in prison. At one point earlier, her mom 919 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: thought Fumaco had died in the earthquake and said she 920 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 1: was glad because her daughter's ideas had become twisted. And 921 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: it seems really likely that there's actually no foul play 922 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: involved a lot of people at the time, and a 923 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: lot of people when you first kind of hear about 924 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: this thing, you're like, okay, yeah, right, Like of course 925 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: she you know, much like Epstein or whatever, she totally 926 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: killed herself or whatever. But I actually I agree with 927 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: some of the historians I read about this, that that 928 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: she she killed herself because she the prison wanted her 929 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 1: to live, because she had been ordered by the emperor 930 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: to fucking this divine command that she's refusing in her 931 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: like final act of refusal. Yeah, they didn't want her 932 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 1: to be a martyr. Yeah, totally exactly, And and she 933 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: ends up a martyr. And the Korean independence movement makes 934 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: a lot out of it, and for her her willingness 935 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: to die was necessary to a firm life, and it 936 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: was the only way to live free was to be 937 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,720 Speaker 1: willing to die. And here's a poem she wrote in prison. 938 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,760 Speaker 1: The moon shines, It shines, and yet people still follow 939 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 1: an endless dark road after her death. It was her 940 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: It was actually the preliminary court judge that gives her 941 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: manuscript of her autobiography to her friends who published it. 942 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: But it's not long before her death before her legacy 943 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: starts getting used by whoever wants to use it. I 944 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: actually talked to the currently living Korean anarchist about this, 945 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to be named. The story of Fumico 946 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: and Pack gets used a lot by Korean nationalists who 947 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: see them as as heroes of national liberation, but the 948 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,719 Speaker 1: two were adamant in that they were internationalists, that they 949 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: were anarchists, and for Fumico in particular, she was a nihilist. 950 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,399 Speaker 1: They want to Korea to be free from Japan, right, 951 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: but not just to create its own authoritarian state. Uh 952 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: Their trial lawyer a few decades later gave this speech 953 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: about how Fumico is a pure, self sacrificing woman who 954 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 1: gave herself for her husband and her husband's country. Um 955 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: and I I get the feeling. And Fumico wouldn't be 956 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: happy about that. No, Yeah, she might have some bombs 957 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: to answer to that. And while the pair is on trial, right, 958 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: this is part of how it's proven. It's just all 959 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: this show trial. It's like they're focusing on these two 960 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: so that they can blame about this other thing. They 961 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: actually kind of don't care as much about the conspiracy. 962 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 1: Not to be outdone by the nihilist, a communist tries 963 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,320 Speaker 1: to take down the crown Prince hiro Hito too. Tasuke 964 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: Namba is a communist who takes a shot at the 965 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: guy's carriage on December. He only shoots once. I don't 966 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: know what's with these historical assassins. The shoots once he 967 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: injured someone else in the carriage. He gets arrested, beat 968 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: and tried and executed. He said that he did it 969 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: in part to avenge the death of Cotaco, the anarchists 970 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: who have been killed during high trees and incident. The 971 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: boyfriend and I just want to say, this is the 972 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: kind of left unity I can get behind. Yeah, And 973 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: if you know, if communist wants to avenge my death 974 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 1: by trying to kill a tyrant more power to word. 975 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister takes a responsibility for this lapse in security, 976 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: and he and the cabinet, a ton of other people 977 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: resign and more conservative people take over. They passed the 978 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: Peace Preservation Law, of which basically makes it illegal to 979 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: criticize the idea of private property. You get ten years 980 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,359 Speaker 1: in prison if you criticize the idea of private property. 981 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: This clearly sucks up the left, and it's like in here, 982 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 1: I like actually even originally had the scriptmal say it. Anyway, 983 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: it's like, this is one of the problems with like 984 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: individual actions that are not backed by mass movements. Right, 985 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: It's like someone takes a fucking pot shot, or like 986 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I'm gonna throw a bump, but I'm 987 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: not actually part connected to anything, and everything just gets worse. 988 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: Most of the time. It's very hard. But this particular 989 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: one is interesting to me because Rokito fucking sucked and 990 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,840 Speaker 1: if it succeeded, okay, so so later during the same period, 991 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 1: another Korean independence activists throws a hand grenade at the emperor, 992 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: narrowly miss killing him, and he becomes here he too, 993 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,399 Speaker 1: the Korean independence actress. He becomes one of the longest 994 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: reigning monarchs in human history, rules from he's the emperor 995 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: in World War two, invades China, he takes Japan, and 996 00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:01,320 Speaker 1: it's fascistic direction. Uh. He's responsible for millions and millions 997 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: of death. The Korean source I talked to said picked them, 998 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: like used the number twenty million deaths that they could 999 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: blame here one uh on here he too, and God 1000 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: only knows what the world would look like if any 1001 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,799 Speaker 1: of these people have succeeded, you know. So I think 1002 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: it's messier because usually I'm kind of like these one 1003 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: off assassinations that are like brave and ship, but usually 1004 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: just make everything fucking worse, you know, yeah, exactly. It's 1005 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 1: like shoot shoot true, like you got it right behind 1006 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: the head or something like John and Wilkes booth. Even 1007 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: though I didn't, like nothing successful at the one thing 1008 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: that he did, Yeah, that's true, So I shouldn't have 1009 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: you one. No, I can't even make a joke about that. 1010 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: He's a sucking christ fun that guy. Oh my god, 1011 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: So I hated because he makes me a sympathy for 1012 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: a US president who was also a racist, you know, 1013 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 1: like like he makes anyway. M hmm. So to Paciole, 1014 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 1: he survives prison. Ah, he's freed in nineteen forty five 1015 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: when Japan surrenders and Korea is freed, well sort of freed, 1016 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: and his own path gets messy and hard to track. 1017 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: From here. We kind of know physically where he went, 1018 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: but I struggle to find how his beliefs shifted. Right, Um, 1019 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: I it doesn't look good no matter how you paint it. Though. 1020 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: The Korean anarchists I talked to said that he came 1021 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: out of prison pro Japan. He basically been broken. After 1022 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: like fifteen years in prison or whatever, he ends up 1023 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: and he comes out right wing. He wounds up in Seoul, 1024 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: and when North Korea captures Soul, he decides he's a 1025 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 1: communist because now he's in North Korea, and I think 1026 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: he's just kind of every way which way the wind 1027 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: is blowing. I think he's just trying to fucking live. 1028 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: That's my theory. Um. But he also works to unite 1029 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: North and South Korea, which is actually reasonably cool. And 1030 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: then he he dies in North Korea in nineteen seventy four, 1031 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 1: and some people say it was executed by the North Koreans, 1032 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: and some people say he wasn't, and then he was 1033 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: like a loyal North Korean and people like arguing about 1034 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,320 Speaker 1: his legacy. Very few of those arguments happening in English, 1035 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 1: and which is fine. It just means I can't access 1036 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: them besides asking people. You know, maybe he just couldn't 1037 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 1: handle resisting authority anymore, or maybe he stayed really fucking 1038 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: cool and just was like all right, Maybe the pure 1039 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: raw defiance was like fucking me up, and I should 1040 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: be a little more subtle, you know. I don't know. 1041 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 1: I don't know either. Yeah, I don't know the way 1042 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 1: to go. Sometimes it just like I want to burn 1043 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: every single thing down, and then someone else tells me 1044 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 1: to vote, and I'm just like, I don't. Fuck yeah, 1045 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: I think that do both seems like a perfectly reasonable solution, 1046 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 1: you know. And I want to I want to close 1047 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,839 Speaker 1: with a poem. I just finally, I don't normally throw 1048 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: much poetry in the show, but I'm talking about these 1049 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: two poets, right. I want to close with the poem 1050 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 1: written by Suga. The first woman was executed, and she 1051 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: wrote in her cell while she awaited death. The wounded 1052 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 1: kept up late in the night, weeping with the pain 1053 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,440 Speaker 1: of wounds. Old and new, frozen in my chill bed 1054 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: at night? How often I listened to the stealthy sounds 1055 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: of sabers, brave, brave children of revolution, timid, timid child 1056 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: of tears? Are they the one insane? I look at 1057 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 1: myself in wonder and I like it because it it's 1058 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: that ship you're talking but that we're talking about, right, Like, um, 1059 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: are we being brave? Are we also like scared and 1060 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: and crying and ship? And I think the answer is both, right, Yeah, absolutely, 1061 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean I think sometimes the most scared person can 1062 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: be the most dangerous, you know. Yeah, that's my quote. Yeah, 1063 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: And they're like, you know, one of the things I 1064 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: try and hold onto, right, because like I'm often scared 1065 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: of ship myself, right, And I'm like, okay, well, you 1066 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: like literally can't be brave unless you're scared, because otherwise 1067 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: you're like foolhardy the word for like not caring about 1068 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: dangerous foolhardy, which is fine, like more power of the foolhardy. 1069 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 1: But I hope bravery for myself and the other people 1070 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: who want to I want to fight against bad ship. Absolutely. Well, 1071 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 1: that is the story of these people. Hell yeah, these 1072 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: badass women, They make me want to read their books, 1073 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: and not a lot of things make me want to 1074 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: read a book. I will look up if there's a 1075 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: movie on either one of these and then watch that instead, 1076 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 1: But if not, I might read a book. There is 1077 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: the movie about kind of rules. It's called Anarchists from 1078 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: Colony and it's it's a South Korean film. It gets 1079 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: a little bit it's a little bit on the side 1080 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: of like that. It pushes a little bit hard on 1081 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: the them as Korean independence activists, which isn't a lie, right, 1082 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,880 Speaker 1: but it like focuses on one part of it. But 1083 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 1: it's really fucking good. It wins all these awards. It 1084 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: came out in seventeen or something. Yeah it I I 1085 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: recommend it to everyone. Um it is so good. You 1086 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: got it? Yeah? Yeah, very interesting. Um. I learned a lot, 1087 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me on. Um. I got 1088 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 1: some heroes to look up to. Um, got some d 1089 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: s A emails to respond to, call them to get 1090 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more badass. Ye, like yeah, can we 1091 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: can we go in this direction? Yeah? Yeah? Anything anybody 1092 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: wants to plug at the end here, Brodie, Margaret, any 1093 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 1: anything you want to plug? I mean, Neil, I'll just 1094 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: say the dark web again. Um, we really have to 1095 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: post an episode. Sometimes we take breaks when we're busy, 1096 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: but um, there's still a ton of episodes for eat 1097 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: enjoy um. And then yeah, if follow me on the 1098 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: socios ao brow brow uh, and come see me live 1099 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 1: if you're around, and you can follow me on the 1100 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 1: internet if you want to see me talk ship and 1101 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: then feel bad that I participated in talking to it 1102 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter and then log off for several days and shame, 1103 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: and then come right back on swinging to disagree with 1104 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: people about minutia in various leftism and then exactly plain 1105 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: about other people complaining about minutia or which is at 1106 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Magpie Killjoy on Twitter or martyr kill join Instagram where 1107 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: I mostly post pictures and my dog, which is a 1108 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: much happier place, but as much I don't use as 1109 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 1: much because I don't get that rush of complaining. Oh, anyway, 1110 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: you know it's bad. It's a mistake. The whole thing 1111 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: was a mistake. Sophie. Where can people follow you on 1112 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: the internet? Uh, you can follow me at why Underscore 1113 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Sophie Underscore Why on Twitter. You can follow at cools 1114 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: and media Cools and Media on Twitter and Instagram. Uh, 1115 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: listen to hood Politics with prop which is on the 1116 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media Network. Yeah, oh yeah, that's all. I'm 1117 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna plug. 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