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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, August third, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number seven. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: It's State thirteen Training Camp twenty twenty one, presented by

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Speaker 1: American Airlines. Were outre in Oxnard, California. Man, we were

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Speaker 1: schedule looks like. We have our show today and then

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Speaker 1: be a travel day for the Cowboys. They'll be heading

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Speaker 1: of Fame game on Thursday. On Friday, there will be

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Speaker 1: a joint podcast. We will have our writers on. Dave

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Speaker 1: But they'll talk to you a little bit about what

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Speaker 1: happens in this game. On Thursday, Saturday, we've got a

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Speaker 1: live broadcast of Cowboys practice. It'll be a joint practice

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Speaker 1: all of our channels. On Sunday, we'll jump back in.

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Speaker 1: then we will end training camp and we will head

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Speaker 1: back to our confines in Frisco, Texas. So a lot well, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like as far as the shows are concerned,

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Speaker 1: back our coverage after that the following week in Frisco, Texas.

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Speaker 1: How much did you learn in that thing? I got lost,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, day at a time, many

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Speaker 1: man Jason Garrett taught me that I thought, Nick, I

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Speaker 1: thought you were going to send out that email to

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Speaker 1: Why am I letting everybody in the air knowing Dave

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Speaker 1: I just didn't send it to you. Oh yeah, they

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Speaker 1: look on days spaces like that happened really? Okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: sure that happened. He's everybody, all our producers, all of

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Speaker 1: was like he didn't send an email. Just play along,

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Speaker 1: all right, Let's jump into this thing. Man. It's eight

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Speaker 1: practice now, it's okay. We can make sure that's sure

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Speaker 1: start first school. We always start. I want some observations

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Speaker 1: your helmet. It means you have the radio and they,

423
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Speaker 1: you know, the coaching staff makes the defensive calls to you.

424
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Speaker 1: So and then do you tell the huddle, what's going on.

425
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: But you got to know the plays really well. So

426
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Speaker 1: Layton and Jalen have one too, I mean, the only

427
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Speaker 1: one guy can have it during the season, but at

428
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Speaker 1: training camps, so he's not doing everything, but he is

429
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Speaker 1: making calls on defense. They're used him in pass rusher,

430
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Speaker 1: they're using him in coverage, which is something I was

431
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: worried about. I was like, how versable was this guy

432
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Speaker 1: gonna be? Is going to contribute to the to the

433
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Speaker 1: pass rush. Well he's doing that. Um, haven't heard a

434
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Speaker 1: peep about him being a problem of any sorts since

435
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 1: he got drafted, by the way, so hey, it's very early.

436
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: It's very early. So but having said all of that,

437
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Speaker 1: this is what you should expect from a top twelve pick.

438
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Speaker 1: Like so, he's probably not above the expectations of where

439
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Speaker 1: he was drafted, but he's probably above the expectations that

440
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Speaker 1: I had. So I've been very impressed. All right, let

441
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Speaker 1: me say one thing about before we move on to

442
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Speaker 1: the next pig. As great as Parsons has been so far,

443
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Speaker 1: and we're all excited about him, you know, the Rashaun

444
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: Slater debate is going to go on for a while

445
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: because when you think about where we are at offensive

446
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 1: tackle and guard and some of the question mark there

447
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: and some of the injuries and all that, Like having

448
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: him on the team right now would have really been Yeah,

449
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 1: a good thing, sure, you know, and linebacker's kind of

450
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: a jumbled thing. Um. You know, who knows if Layton

451
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: he might have had the fifth year option. They might

452
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Speaker 1: have given him that option if you didn't if they

453
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Speaker 1: didn't draft Parsons. So you know, it's certainly not a

454
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Speaker 1: point where you're like, well, good call. They got Parsons,

455
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Speaker 1: and I I I that's who I thought they should

456
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Speaker 1: have taken, was Parsons to help the defense. But we're not.

457
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Speaker 1: We're not out of the woods on this debate. But

458
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Speaker 1: which is. And that's the fun thing about the draft

459
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Speaker 1: is those debates go on for year years. I mean,

460
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: Zeke looked like a better pick than Ramsey for a

461
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Speaker 1: few years. And now you can certainly make the case

462
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Speaker 1: that Ramsey was the better decision. I think that's probably

463
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Speaker 1: an easy case to make right now. Um, And well,

464
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: that's a different show. And that's not even just about

465
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Speaker 1: what's on the field. I'm talking about all the other stuff.

466
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Speaker 1: You get, you get my point. These things evolved well,

467
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: and so yeah, if if if is there any second

468
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Speaker 1: third fourth round pick in that twenty sixteen draft, No, yeah,

469
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Speaker 1: if there isn't, No, I'm oh not none that or

470
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Speaker 1: as important as Dak is. No. No, no no, I don't

471
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Speaker 1: mean Dad. I mean I mean Ramsey plus the running

472
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: back that you draft later helps, you know, because we've

473
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Speaker 1: seen McFadden have success. I mean, we've seen Alfred Morris

474
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Speaker 1: have some success. So we think you know that that's

475
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Speaker 1: always the debate there. I don't know if there's a

476
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Speaker 1: second third fourth round. I mean, Anthony Brown was the

477
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Speaker 1: sixth round corner that came in. Henry was that draft,

478
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Speaker 1: but I don't remember if he might have been off

479
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Speaker 1: the board before the Cowboys picked. I don't remember that

480
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: it does. Yeah, no, I think people say, you go, yeah,

481
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: you could have had Ramsey and Hens or Henry any

482
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: of the off the rails a little bit, but those

483
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: things if But I said this yesterday on Twitter, is

484
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: I was worried that we were going to be watching

485
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater ball out and I would just be upset, like,

486
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, this sucks. And now it's really more like, well,

487
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 1: maybe I wasn't wrong, but maybe both teams will be happy.

488
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I feel. That's how I

489
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: feel right now. You said something a few minutes ago, Derek,

490
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: I think I don't want this to get kind of,

491
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Speaker 1: you know, um forgotten. But yes, he looks great. Michael

492
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: Parsons looks great doing all these things. But rookies, their

493
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: head is got to be spinning, and to put them

494
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: in four or five different spots is very very important.

495
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact he can go here, here, here,

496
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: he I believe will turn into the player, whether it

497
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: be this year or next year, where the quarterback will

498
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: go to the line of scrimmage to find out where

499
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: eleven is. You have to yep, yeah, where is he?

500
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: Because that tells you this whole thing. You don't really know.

501
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: He's right here, he's over here, He's over here changes

502
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: the whole play. And that sounds great, But not everybody

503
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: has the capability of learning all of those spots. When

504
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 1: name the last time the Cowboys had a guy like

505
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: that that they moved around that much, I can't think

506
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: of one. I mean, you start going back to some

507
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: of the old day guys like they would do that,

508
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: and they'd have that you know what we call in

509
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: high school the monster position where you basically roam around

510
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: the field and you're in different spots. Right, Cowboys haven't

511
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: really traditionally done that because it takes a very special

512
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: player to be able to do that. In to your point,

513
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: he's doing that in his first training camp. So how

514
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: much more growth does he have to where he can

515
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: possibly be graded all those different things? And I know

516
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: I've said this all the time, but I think people

517
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: forget this when you talk about corners that travel and

518
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: linebackers that move, Well, if they're moving around, that means

519
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: someone else is moving too, and there is that person

520
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: capable of moving all this stuff. Because you can have

521
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: a corner that travels everywhere, that means this, well, the

522
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: right corner has also got to travel and got to

523
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: be able to learn the left side. And so if

524
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: if if somebody if MICA's rushing off the edge on

525
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: this play, well where's where's d Law? And well he's

526
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: sliding in and where did this guy go? Well he moved,

527
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, So everybody's got to be disciplined. And that's

528
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: why I think dan Quinn is here. I think this

529
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: what that's what we're gonna find out? How good he

530
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: it really is. Henry was on the board by the way,

531
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: just saying sorry. Moving on. Second round pick Kelvin Joseph

532
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: Um better better than I thought. I was the one

533
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: that said, you know, I didn't love the pick. I

534
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: didn't love the pick. Didn't love what I've thought was

535
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: a reach. Didn't understand maybe where what he's done in

536
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: his back ground and where he's been here in his

537
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: dedication and all that. Uh, he's a little bit better

538
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: than that. He's still here, he's competing and all that.

539
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: He's cocky. I like that. We'll see I think I

540
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: think lights come on, he might be a gamer. I'm

541
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: excited to see him. But you know, I think he's

542
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: probably where I thought he'd be. Um. I am impressed.

543
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't really have a spring because of

544
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: covid um or. He was behind a little bit um.

545
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: And I think it's a testament to his athleticism and

546
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: his dedicate Like he's not he's not lost out there.

547
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: I mean he's getting reps. He hasn't made a ton

548
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 1: of splash plays, but uh, and and he even he

549
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: had a day or two where he couldn't go because

550
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: of a hamstring and he's still but you know, they're

551
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: not afraid to put him out there, and he's competing.

552
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: He's had some PBUs. He's a talker for sure. Um,

553
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: but I'm not surprised by that because he did have

554
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: the athleticism in the tape to be a top fifty pick.

555
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: So he's He's where I thought he'd be, all right. Also,

556
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: Diggi Zula. Oh, I'm way better than I thought I was. There.

557
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: You know, I spell his name right, I say his

558
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: name right to I'm going I'm doing much better than

559
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: I ever. Have you guys been in your hotel rooms,

560
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: like literally just writing his name over and over? Actually,

561
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: well you get it right, Yeah, that's exactly what I

562
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: do for something. My brain. My brain just wouldn't let

563
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: me remember that he had a W in his last

564
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: name for the longest time. But I think I finally Yeah,

565
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: William had to give me a talking had I had

566
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: to break that one down with Oh, dig Hi zua

567
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: and dig hi za whatever helps, whatever helps. It's like

568
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: connect I cut Superman. Here's everyone Lake Superior or Michigan

569
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Speaker 1: here on anyway? Sorry Ontario Erie, No, you never heard that?

570
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, Wow, I never never heard that. No, not

571
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: like that Superman. Here's everyone superior Michigan, Ontario. Sorry, wow, anyway,

572
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: I'll do things a little different. I guess what's a

573
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: little different if it's what's the one for the planets?

574
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: I mean there's different ones. Oh my excuse my d No,

575
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: that's math that's math y, my very something mother, educated mother,

576
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: just something I don't know. You've never, you never. We

577
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: just learned the names. Like no, it's called it. It's

578
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: called the nemonic. I know that we just learned the names.

579
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Like we didn't need My daughter did that the other day.

580
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: My very educated mother serves us. There we Hey, whatever works, man,

581
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: whatever works. Were all right, let's get back on is above.

582
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: I think you know, we who do the draft, we

583
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: were a little surprised to hear his name called that early. Um,

584
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: so you thought, where do you where do you think

585
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: you should go? Like where would you guys? Where were

586
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: you guys projecting him to go? He went in the

587
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: round that we like, he went in the range. I

588
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: would say, I just I wouldn't have guessed that he

589
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: would be the first guy off the board with that

590
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: third round pick. And he wasn't a guy that we

591
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: had heard a lot about, which it's harder during COVID

592
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: and all that. So I was a little down on

593
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: just because and I'd have to go back and look,

594
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: but there were other names available that I was higher on. Um.

595
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: But he he looks impressive. No, he looks the part

596
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: for big and he's act and he gets behind the

597
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage absolutely. Um. So I above, Yes, so far,

598
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: I want to see he's one of those guys. I'm

599
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: excited to see what he is after a year in

600
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: the training, in the in the strength and conditioning program.

601
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Because he's already a big dude and you add some

602
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: muscle and some strength to that, He's gonna be a

603
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: handful long term. I think really like a cool guy too.

604
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: I got a chance to spend some time with him

605
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: during media days and he was very friendly and personable.

606
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: And then he had his first media availability of camp

607
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: last week, and just like he's a he's a dude

608
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: that I think it would be fun to like hang

609
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: out and get a beer with for whatever that's worth. Yeah,

610
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: hopefully these two guys are really really good for years

611
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: to come. But I can't imagine I could see a

612
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: radio show with Neville Gallimore. They have personality, you know,

613
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: we saw we saw Galloway last year, like he has

614
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: gall sorry last year, he has that that personality, definitely

615
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: has that personality. Yeah, Tristan Hill is not that so much,

616
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, but those other two I think they definitely

617
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 1: have a personality to be able to do it. Um,

618
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump over Chauncy Gold. I haven't just haven't

619
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: been able to play. We haven't seen enough of him.

620
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do. We're gonna take our break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll jump in talk a little

622
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: bit more about Nashan Wright U and Bill Cox and

623
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: some other names uh there in the later parts in

624
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: later rounds. Well, when we come right back. This is

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Speaker 1: segment here at the break. We're talking about the rookies.

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Speaker 1: We've gone through most of the third round picks except

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Speaker 1: for Nashan Right. Talk to me about Sean Right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be above just because we tried to

681
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Speaker 1: bury the guy on draft night because nobody had ever

682
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Speaker 1: heard of him. I mean, like that's just the honest truth,

683
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Speaker 1: Like he wasn't a guy that anybody but the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: was talking about as a third round pick. And six

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Speaker 1: four just limbs for days. I mean, looks like he's

686
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Speaker 1: gonna have a hard time moving in space and he

687
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely not perfect. He's lost his fair

688
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Speaker 1: share of stuff out here, but he's out there competing

689
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Speaker 1: getting his hand on the football. Did it during OTA's

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, like very candidly, I'm just like

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Speaker 1: this guy's gonna like have a hard time getting a

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00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: jersey on game days as a rookie and sitting here like, no,

693
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Speaker 1: he's gonna make the team and probably be a viable

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Speaker 1: member of it. Man, you know, I don't think he's

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00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: gonna take anybody's starting job. But people people killed that

696
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Speaker 1: pick when it happened, and it looks like early early,

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Speaker 1: but like it at least doesn't look stupid right now,

698
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: which is more than a lot of people said on

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Speaker 1: draft night. I'm anxious to see what kind of role

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Speaker 1: he'll have on a on a game day. I think

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Speaker 1: for sure he makes the team. I'm just curious to

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Speaker 1: see what, you know, and then that'll come down to

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Speaker 1: what he does on special teams, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a long strider. He's got to be, so he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get down there, probably quicker than the most. Can't

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Speaker 1: he be physical enough to do anything when he gets there? Now,

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Speaker 1: I did see him throw this receiver to the ground

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Speaker 1: the other day and I was like what, and then

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Speaker 1: it was Reggie Davis, who is about one forty fifty.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Davis, by the way, had a really nice catch yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it. It It was on

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Speaker 1: my Twitter. Um I got it. But yeah, pretty good video,

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Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm trying to I'm helmet. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: that acces. I was trying to take Chris's job. We're doing.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point. No, because he has Chris has

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Speaker 1: the better equipment. Okay, is that what it is? Because

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Speaker 1: he got he's got the better eye, but he's got

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00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: a better equipment. Okay, it's having a really good care.

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Speaker 1: I always get the headset on. He's like, we can

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00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: switch if you Yeah, let's go give it a go. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I gave it to Shannon the other day and he's like, no,

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Speaker 1: take this back, I'll take the camera. Yeah, it's a

724
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Speaker 1: little different when you got to pick up the big

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Speaker 1: boy camera. Yeah. I don't know. No, he's I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's It's amazing though, seriously, because we don't have I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have good access, but we just don't have as

728
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Speaker 1: many people as we normally have out here. And every

729
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: time there's a great catch a CD or whoever, it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know we have that Chris, did you get it?

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Speaker 1: And he's right there, he's right there, or he's over

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Speaker 1: here and he's still got it and all that. We've

733
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: had some really good stuff. Yeah good, no doubt, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: you know, honestly for me, Sean Right, it's just gravy

735
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: this year. Whatever you give from him as gravy. I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about him long term. Is he a guy that

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Speaker 1: you can count on at whatever point they decide to

738
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Speaker 1: move on from Anthony Brown and and Lewis? Like those

739
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: are those are the more that's the more important question

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00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is he's going to develop into that?

741
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: And if he can, then great. The pick was a

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: great pick. I don't care what they really get out

743
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: of him this year. Play some special teams, that's it.

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00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't really care. I just want to know, can

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Speaker 1: you play for him long term? Can you can you

746
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Speaker 1: ease that pain when you have to move on from

747
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: those vets because you're gonna move on from them in

748
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: the next year or two. All right, let's move on

749
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: to we just go quickly? Hear both of them down? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Down and ball? Yeah? Well, I do want to get

751
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: a little color on on on Jabril Cox because I

752
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: think a lot of people had high hopes for him

753
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: when the pick was made. Yeah, um. And he was

754
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. So expectations can't be great when

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00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: it's a fourth round pick. Yeah they can, can they? Yes?

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00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: Well should they be well, yes, that's a different conversation. Yeah.

757
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: But Jabril Cox is interesting. I mean a lot of

758
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: people saw him as a second round pick. A lot

759
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: of you know, like, oh, I'd love to have him

760
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: at seventy five, but I doubt he last that long.

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00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a very real thing. Had they

762
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: taken Rashaunce later, they take Cocks in the second round,

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00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: I firmly believe that. Really, I wouldn't be believe that,

764
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Speaker 1: and and then we'd really be saying he is not

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Speaker 1: they need a Yeah, maybe if they had gotten certain

766
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Speaker 1: maybe I think that's possible. I don't know. If they

767
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: had an addressed corner in the first round, I think

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00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: they still take. But he was a second round grade

769
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, so he that is true. He was,

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00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: And they were just as shocked as everybody else that

771
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: he hung around. And that's how and the reason why

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00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: you get a second round grade on someone and have

773
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 1: three third round picks and not take them is because

774
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: you already took Michael Parsons in the first round. When

775
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: you're in the fourth round. Now, it's kind of like

776
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: all guys get the best guy, and that was an

777
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: easy pick for them. But that and I do one,

778
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: and so the answer is below. But what we got

779
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: to figure out is is that because he's not ready

780
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: or just because it's tough to get opportunities at that position.

781
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: And I think that's I think that's the problem he's

782
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: dealing with right now. Is top twelve pick, seventy million

783
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: dollar veteran, fifth year veteran, you know, leader of your

784
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Speaker 1: defense or one of them at least Laton and then

785
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: Keane O'Neill, who's the coaches guy and a high priority

786
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: free agent. I mean, there's just not a lot of

787
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: room for reps. But I'm gonna kind of play devil's

788
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: advocate there because I've seen Giffords made. We've seen Gifford

789
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: kind of active for sure, and he's got a head

790
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: starting on him, you know. I mean, um, obviously in

791
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: three years that Gifford was making some plays early there,

792
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: but he didn't have those guys at all in front

793
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: of him either. Let's see what happens when the lights

794
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: come on. I think he's gonna get a chance to

795
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: play a lot in prese I think that's the thing.

796
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: He's gonna get live action reps and and we'll have

797
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: to play a lot of special teams, if I had

798
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: to guess. And so, you know, speaking of Gifford, nobody

799
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: was talking about him until he played in a preseason

800
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago, had an interception. Every

801
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, let the lit the fan base on fire.

802
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm not ready to bury him. But

803
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: it's been below what you thought, given everybody thought he

804
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: was a much higher draft grade. Yeah, I would have

805
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: thought you'd see some flashes because as you say, he's

806
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: been buried a little bit down the depth trap. But

807
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: that also means he's playing out there against lesser quality talent,

808
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: and that's where you thought maybe he would flash a

809
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: little bit more. And I really haven't seen a lot

810
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: of flash plays for him. Let's talk about Simi Fehoko

811
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: wide receiver, um at this being the draft nerd that

812
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: I am like that. I mean, I thought you'll say it.

813
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: Let's just say that the next two And I thought

814
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: you were talking about ball in there. Okay, is that

815
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: what you were saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, I didn't know.

816
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: It's been below for Ball, he's got ankle injury with Yeah,

817
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: I though you're saying below for both of them, So

818
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of similar, Like you know, people,

819
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: the thing on Ball was like he'd be a much

820
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 1: higher draft pick without the domestic violence. It hasn't looked

821
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: like that. It didn't look like it in the spring.

822
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: It hasn't looked like it out here. Um, he's hurt

823
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: right now, so it's below Simi. The thing is like fifth,

824
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. You're you're like, oh, any same thing.

825
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: You're like, anything you get from him is gravy. But

826
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, No, no, I'm laughing. He keep going, keep going.

827
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: He's six to four and runs a four four. He's

828
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: big on TikTok. He's got a TikTok. He's Will mcclay's

829
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: pet cat, Like that's the guy. He was like, yeah,

830
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: if you if you want me to, I'm I love

831
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: all my guys, but like Simmy was a guy I

832
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: was excited about. And so everybody builds these expectations like

833
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: we got it, we got the next got the next day,

834
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: three steal Um, So I don't. He hasn't been that

835
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: good that everybody's made some no he has looked good

836
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: out here, but I think he's probably right where you

837
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: where he should be as opposed. You know, at one

838
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: point in the spring, people were like, this guy should

839
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: have been a top fifty pill Like, no, calm down,

840
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: change the question. Not when he was drafted. How about

841
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: heading into camp after we've because heading into camp, we

842
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: were like this camp right here, we were like, this guy,

843
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: he hasn't done anything of the Sunday he's done more

844
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: out here. And and I remember writing a note or

845
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: something about that because I was looking at his career.

846
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: He had a decent career at Stanford and he was

847
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: doing okay. Then he plays it. You see LA's last game. Yeah,

848
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: sixteen catches, two thirty I think two or three touchdowns,

849
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: about an hour from here, and I'm like, well, maybe

850
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: maybe he's a southern California guy. You know. Then he

851
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: comes out in the first couple of days of practice

852
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: and he's looking pretty good. He's kind of tapered off

853
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. It'll be interesting to see what

854
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: happens because he's a draft pick. But I don't think

855
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: he's been better than the league turner. I don't even

856
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: think he's been better than O Cyrus Mitchell number fourteen.

857
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: A lot of those guys have had good cans that.

858
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: But that's the fun thing about the games is there's

859
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: these guys are so easy to notice because the ball

860
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: goes through the air and you get you get to

861
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: run thirty reps per practice, even though even the second

862
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: and third string guys get a ton of reps, especially

863
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: with a Marian gallop out. While on Thursday, you're gonna

864
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: get targeted three times. Yeah, and maybe one of them

865
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: is more than five or six yards down the field,

866
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: so you better make the most of it. Yep, that's

867
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: exactly right. All right, let's talk about future Hall of

868
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Famer Quintin Bohanna Abo. I might owe you an apology.

869
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: He's not he's knocking to start. He's not at all

870
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: of ye, he's not. He's not gonna start either. That's

871
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: you don't think, no, at least not snap probably not probably.

872
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: But he looks really good. I like him. He doesn't.

873
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: He does not get moved easily. Can y'all still hear me?

874
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: I feel like I cut out So he doesn't get

875
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: moved easily. He's he's a hoss and he moves people,

876
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: and he he penetrates. Will you know that's not his

877
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: m O. He's a trash can full of dirt right, Well,

878
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: he gets into the backfield better than I would expect

879
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: a trash can full of dirt too. I like the

880
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: way he goes kind of laterally too. It's a good

881
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: it was a good thirty pounds that he lost, you know,

882
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: because at three fifty he was just a different guy

883
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: there and and but now he's like a three twenty five,

884
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: three thirty and he's still, like to Dave's point, doesn't

885
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: get moved. But he's a lot more probably more agile

886
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: um and I think he's gonna be I think it's

887
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting with him as well, because it's not

888
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: like Nashan Ride or somebody where you know, you draft

889
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: him and you know, maybe the next guy on your

890
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: list here or that a guy that could probably make

891
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: the team, but maybe inactive. I mean, if Bohanna's on

892
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: the team, you need to use him because nobody else

893
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: can do what he does. So it'll be it'll be

894
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: interesting to see if he is a guy that it

895
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: makes the He's gonna make the team, I believe, I

896
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: think says he does. He make the forty six game

897
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: day roster, because what good is he going to be

898
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: inactive if he's just sitting over there with with a

899
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: with a four X. I think so much that depends

900
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: on what's happening with Tristan Hill. Yeah, if Tristan Hill

901
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: is a six week pop guy, then didn't I think

902
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: there's a good chance Bohanna's gonna be Let's say he is.

903
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: Who are your defensive tackles in the game like week one,

904
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: I think you already talked about Gallimore, Neville Gallimore, Brent Urban,

905
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins, Quentin Bohannah. Yeah, wait, who am I forgetting? Oh?

906
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I think but but I think Urban.

907
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: I think Urban's kind of a guy you have to

908
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: think about as kind of an in slash tackle, like

909
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: their moving him around. He's playing both. So on game day,

910
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you necessarily, like I think they're

911
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna have four defense, Yeah, nine active, you could probably

912
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: gonna have four. He's he's a Tyrone Crawford. You're gonna

913
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: have four that a defensive tackles. You're probably gonna have

914
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: four defensive end. You're gonna have Urban that can pop one.

915
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: Watkins is the same way. By the way he's done

916
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: five technique law Gregory Doran's arms and um and probably

917
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: bash him Basha. Chauncey can be a Chauncey seems like

918
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: a game day and active. Yeah, Chauncey's the guy that

919
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to work his way in which not

920
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: to get ahead of ourselves. But do you remember last

921
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: year on cutdown day like or cutdown weekend? I should

922
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: say how like tricky they got with it. You know,

923
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: they they cut a couple guys knowing they would. You know,

924
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: CJ got cut for like eighteen hours. Remember they're gonna

925
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: do that. They're gonna have to do stuff like that

926
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: again this year. I think they're gonna get They're gonna

927
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: get weird to make sure they accommodate all these guys.

928
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 1: You cut, you cut a guy, oh, because what happens

929
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: is you'll have an injured player that you have to

930
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: get have to be on the final roster. On the roster,

931
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: so you cut, you cut a veteran player, right who

932
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: you know you can talk into and say, listen, don't

933
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: don't sign. You can't get claimed because you're a veteran.

934
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: Don't sign with anyone else signed with US. I just

935
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: pure hunch on my part, But I wonder if we

936
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: see something like that with Tristan if he's not ready,

937
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: and like keep him on the roster and stash him

938
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: until later and cut a guy and all that fun stuff,

939
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: so it'll be good. Could Gholston be that's what's his

940
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 1: injury again? Hamstring? That shouldn't be that bad. You wouldn't

941
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: think I would have thought we would have seen him

942
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, obviously, all right, real quick, Israel above. Yeah,

943
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: he's been pretty good. These these late round guys have

944
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: been impressive, and you know, like we don't have the tape,

945
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: so who knows what all he I'm sure he's messed

946
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: up plenty of things playing back there, but he's long.

947
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: I think we talked about him at the end of

948
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: the other show, Like he gets to the football, he's

949
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: had a couple of picks, he's broken up some passes. Uh,

950
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 1: he just he seems like he flashes and I kind of,

951
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, I get. I don't want to say I

952
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: wrote him off, but I was like, Okay, he was

953
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: a cornerback, but he's already moving to safety before he

954
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: even gets here. Like that doesn't I don't know how

955
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: promising that is, but made an impression on his teammates.

956
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good. That was like funny.

957
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: He was one of the guys that for those that

958
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: don't know, you gotta go back and watch the video

959
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: if you have him. But he was one of the

960
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: guys that was pointed out by a few players as

961
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: the guy that on the team that they would not

962
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: allow to date their sister on national sister's days. Da

963
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: Dak and Randy had the best answers to that question.

964
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: Dak was like nobody half the team. Randy was like

965
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: none of these guys none. It was like smart, very smart,

966
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: not at all. I don't know what what I don't

967
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: know what Israel or CJ or Diggs Digs. Yeah, they

968
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, I think a few people are

969
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of like that. I think the Vikings also had that.

970
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: And his brother was that award. Yeah, like those Diggs boys.

971
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't know Hairphone, No, he's he's uh. Israel has

972
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: been above because I don't have high expectations for anybody

973
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: that gets drafted after the fourth round, and so if

974
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: you're doing anything, if you're doing anything, I think it's good.

975
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: So Matt farnioc um. Now I don't think as as

976
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: as good. If so, I don't believe they would, you know,

977
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: be putting in uh Connor Williams to try that out center.

978
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: It looks messy when he plays center. He's got some

979
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: snapping issues. Yeah, what about guard? I haven't noticed, and

980
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: which again, seventh round pick. My expectations are the lowest

981
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: of the low and so I wouldn't say he's been

982
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: below my expectations. And my expectations just weren't very high.

983
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: You know, when you when you get a guy in

984
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: the draft that's like, well, he's played center, he's played guard,

985
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: he's played tackle. That's awesome, and he's drafted in the

986
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: seventh round. Because if he was this Swiss army knife

987
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 1: that was cutting everything every single time at every position,

988
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, this is this is outstanding. But it's

989
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: this seems it smells like a master of all you know,

990
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: or jack of all trades, master of none type of

991
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: thing and that and and that's hard to do. You

992
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: can't just throw guys around all the time. Not everybody

993
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: picks it up. And so it helped it ed Nebraska

994
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: because hey, this guy can give any any he gets

995
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: in there and he can help. But when it's time

996
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: to evaluate him, he's never really great at one thing

997
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: and it probably hurts him. So versatility we stay this

998
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: whole time. Position flex versatility. While it might it might

999
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: help you get on the team or whatever, it doesn't

1000
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: always help your development. That's why what Micah Parsons to

1001
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: go full circle on this, That's why Micah Parsons is

1002
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: so impressive to move around in four spots and for

1003
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: this point, excel at it all right, real quick, before

1004
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: we end the show, I want you guys too quickly.

1005
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: Each one of you give me one player or position

1006
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: and you're going to be watching here in the Hall

1007
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: of Fame game and what you're looking to find out

1008
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: about that player or our position. Let's start with you,

1009
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: daveon Ah. This is cheating because it's so easy. But

1010
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the news. I'm really excited. I'm so

1011
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: serious too, Like I'm not being sarcastic. I think the

1012
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: poor guy, like the guy didn't have a preseason, he

1013
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: didn't get to do any of this last year. Hey, congratulations,

1014
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: and you're the starting quarterback because everybody else is dead.

1015
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: Go fight off Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham please on

1016
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: National TV. So now he like this is the environment

1017
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: he belongs in. Probably you know, he's a third string guy.

1018
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna get to go against third string guys. By

1019
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: the way, He's from Pittsburgh, so I'm sure a whole

1020
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: bunch of people he knows are gonna make you drive

1021
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: over there. Yeah, against his childhood team by the way. Um,

1022
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: so that's really exciting. This is something that he should

1023
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: have gotten to do last year, and I hope he

1024
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think he'll probably look better going against

1025
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: the lower level of talent, So that'll be fun. Nick

1026
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: god Man, I mean, I go all over the place here. Um,

1027
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm trying to find out is what

1028
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: can we take from this game? So what position are

1029
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: we gonna be able to see something and make a

1030
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, make a real impression. I'll say the defensive tackle,

1031
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: defensive line there I want to see because those guys,

1032
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna get in there. I want to see,

1033
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: uh Digizu. I want to see hopefully Galla Moore will

1034
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: play some you know, really that whole front seven. You know,

1035
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: you could say Mike and all that, but just just

1036
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: kind of how they rotate. I guess. I guess to

1037
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: give you a real answer, I want to see how

1038
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: they kind of line up. I want to see the

1039
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: line up, Quinn, what does he do again? You gotta

1040
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: be vanilla. They're not gonna be, but I just kind

1041
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 1: of want to see what it looks like. Even vanilla

1042
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: would be nice, though, because like it's so hard to

1043
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: get a read on what they're trying to do here

1044
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: and by you know, if we tried to break it

1045
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: down too much, they'd freak out on us. Yeah, so

1046
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna be on National TV Thursday. You can't completely

1047
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 1: hide it. So at the very least, it'll be nice

1048
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Speaker 1: to be like, all right on second and eight, Urban

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Speaker 1: was out at five Technique and this guy was doing

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Speaker 1: that and like you just kind of have an idea

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Speaker 1: of the shape, because I know that sounds dumb, but

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I have that right now. And

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Speaker 1: usually in camps you see like predominantly first teams out there,

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Speaker 1: you see, this guy's gonna always line up here, this

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Speaker 1: guy's gonna always like that is It's not It is

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Speaker 1: so different from that in this camp, more than any

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Speaker 1: other camp I've ever been been a part of, or

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Speaker 1: watched up close and personal. Yeah, and I'll say this

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Speaker 1: to you know, it's not just rookies that are going

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Speaker 1: to get out here and play their first time there.

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Speaker 1: I bet you you've got ten to twelve guys that

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Speaker 1: have never played a preseason game before, Guys that have

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Speaker 1: played a lot of Terrence Steele's played, Nucci has played,

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Speaker 1: these guys have played, Reggie Robinson has played some games

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Speaker 1: they haven't played. Connor McGovern has not played a preseason game.

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Speaker 1: So it's amazing. So there are a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: that haven't gotten an opportunity to play. That's terrible. I

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Speaker 1: haven't got, you know, a lot of guys that's been

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Speaker 1: able to play in situations where they should be able

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Speaker 1: to at least compete, you know. So that's exciting. All right,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys joining us. Like I said, we've

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Speaker 1: got a lot going on over the next few days.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check the website. We'll have schedules up

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Speaker 1: to let you know when things will be happening. Make

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Speaker 1: sure on Saturday you check out the live broadcast of

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Speaker 1: our practice with the Rams. It will air locally in

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Speaker 1: Dallas on CBS eleven, but you can watch it wherever

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Speaker 1: you are around the world on all of our platforms.

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Speaker 1: We will be streaming it. That'll happen at three pm

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Speaker 1: Pacific time on Saturday, so make sure you check that out.

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Speaker 1: To them for Keatman, Dave Helm and I'm Derek Eagelson.

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