Speaker 1: Ruby. I had a client who ended up using movers
Speaker 1: and he lost an entire wardrobe box. There was I
Speaker 1: believe thirteen Gucci shirts in there. His entire collection of
Speaker 1: ties was in the bottom of the box, and his
Speaker 1: collection of belts Man. So not only was his move
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred dollars, he also lost thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: worth of products.
Speaker 2: WHOA Welcome back to grown Up Stuff, the podcast where
Speaker 2: we figure out all of the things you feel like
Speaker 2: you should know by now but maybe don't, because I
Speaker 2: know I certainly don't. I'm Leah Palmery and I.
Speaker 3: Met Stillo, and today we're talking about moving, which can
Speaker 3: be so exciting until you realize you have to move.
Speaker 2: I think moving is the universe's way of making you
Speaker 2: a question every single thing you.
Speaker 3: Own, especially when you're carrying a box labeled miscellaneous that
Speaker 3: weighs seventy five paths. And then come all the adult
Speaker 3: things that no one talks about, like transferring utilities, changing
Speaker 3: your address, setting up your Internet.
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, somehow the Wi Fi appointment is
Speaker 2: always at least three days after you've already moved in
Speaker 2: always yeah.
Speaker 3: Every time. Today we're getting the ultimate moving checklist from
Speaker 3: relittered Dag Larsen, So your next move can be a
Speaker 3: little bit more organized and a lot less chaotic.
Speaker 2: Well, we look this up and found that affordability is
Speaker 2: the number one reason people in the US relocate. Moving
Speaker 2: for a job is the second reason. So with affordability
Speaker 2: top of mind, let's talk about the hidden or unexpected
Speaker 2: costs of moving, because I think one of the first
Speaker 2: things people think when I think about moving is just, oh,
Speaker 2: this is going to get expensive. So, Dag, what are
Speaker 2: some of those costs that people often overlook or don't
Speaker 2: know about.
Speaker 1: Ooh, my first three? Remember utilities and starting utilities. People
Speaker 1: always forget that you have to go and get your
Speaker 1: heat and you're cooling. Those can be three four hundred
Speaker 1: dollars initiation fees all the time. Same with if you're
Speaker 1: setting up internet for the first time, you're moving from home.
Speaker 1: You've never had internet that could have an upfront charge.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you have good credit that you can actually get
Speaker 1: approved and get that. I would say those are big surprises.
Speaker 1: And then people also forget little expenses that you have
Speaker 1: right when you move in, like key deposits. I've seen
Speaker 1: them up to three hundred dollars nowadays. Wow, So you
Speaker 1: start to factor in that, and I think people underprice
Speaker 1: how much moving costs and what you're quoted and what
Speaker 1: you actually pay are rarely the same.
Speaker 2: I also factor in things like how much am I
Speaker 2: going to spend at the container store when I want
Speaker 2: to organize myself, So that's also one thing that.
Speaker 1: I keep in mind.
Speaker 3: Yet, Yeah, I hadn't even thought about that. I'm just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm going to get a new couch. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean the utility fees, the Keith deposit, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the small ones that definitely count. And
Speaker 1: also in this type of day and age, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people who might need to put down more
Speaker 1: than first and last. And I do tell people, you know,
Speaker 1: you should be ready for that. Yeah, it's not a
Speaker 1: mandatory thing, but if you really need to move when
Speaker 1: other people need to move, sometimes that can happen too,
Speaker 1: So be ready for that.
Speaker 3: Do you have like a number you recommend setting aside,
Speaker 3: like three thousand dollars?
Speaker 1: I have two numbers. Okay, I have a number for
Speaker 1: a person just moving for the sake of moving, and
Speaker 1: then I have a number for a person who's moving
Speaker 1: out for the first time. So for the person moving
Speaker 1: out for the first time who's not used to paying
Speaker 1: a monthly rental bill, you don't think about it until
Speaker 1: you start paying it. I always say, within your budget,
Speaker 1: have an extra month of rent ready because you just
Speaker 1: don't know what will happen. You really don't, and you
Speaker 1: might be lined up for your second month of rent.
Speaker 1: But once you move in and you're paying these initial
Speaker 1: startups for everything, the money is depleted. So I would
Speaker 1: say you want that, And I always say, if you're moving,
Speaker 1: try to have a buffer of fifteen hundred to two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars just incidentals. Your first initial buy. You need
Speaker 1: to get some detergent, some toilet paper, the most simple
Speaker 1: you know, oil, salt, pepper, basics, and that's all going
Speaker 1: to add up for sure.
Speaker 3: So let's think about moving as three separate parts, packing
Speaker 3: and getting ready moving day, and then the early days
Speaker 3: at a new place. So what are some packing up
Speaker 3: the house tips?
Speaker 1: Get really clear in what you like and don't like
Speaker 1: that's in your existing home, And why are you spending
Speaker 1: time moving stuff that you don't want? Why are you
Speaker 1: paying movers to move things you have no use? For
Speaker 1: you're moving clutter from one place to another that will
Speaker 1: just go down a garbage choot or into a donation bin.
Speaker 1: Number one, declutter and b ruthless. You already know that
Speaker 1: you winter coats you have no use for yep out,
Speaker 1: don't move them to your new place. Start fresh.
Speaker 3: I love that Marie condo it and then whatever is
Speaker 3: left you can just pack up. And another tip I
Speaker 3: heard you can leave clothes on their hangars and in
Speaker 3: dresser drawers to make packing and unpacking easier. Oh and
Speaker 3: if you're taking a part in any furniture, to make
Speaker 3: it easier to move, keep all those little bolts and
Speaker 3: screws and things together in a little baggy and tape
Speaker 3: it to the piece of furniture they belong to so
Speaker 3: it all stays together. But then if you hire movers
Speaker 3: you can pay a little more and have them pack
Speaker 3: everything for you. They usually assume the liability of something
Speaker 3: they pack gets broken and transit, but if you packed it,
Speaker 3: it's on you.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So that makes me wonder if I spend the money
Speaker 2: and hire movers or am I really a boss lady
Speaker 2: and I can do this all myself? So dag, what's
Speaker 2: your advice for like movers or not movers.
Speaker 1: I've said this before in a video, and I was
Speaker 1: very clear in how I worded this. If you are
Speaker 1: physically able to move boxes and do your own move,
Speaker 1: do it. Just do it, especially in a first move.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you will spend thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars on movers. There is no guarantee that things
Speaker 1: will not break, so it is out of your hands.
Speaker 1: And I also, again outside of finance, I'm a big
Speaker 1: believer that says, you know, stretch yourself to the limit,
Speaker 1: and if you can do something, do it. If you
Speaker 1: know how to make yourself a coffee, make yourself a coffee.
Speaker 1: If you can lift a box and you're kind of strong,
Speaker 1: do it. I mean call it exercise, and call it
Speaker 1: an effort in using your will to do the most
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I moved myself all the time.
Speaker 3: I lived in Manhattan, and I kind of moved around
Speaker 3: to different dorms and stuff. And I always moved myself
Speaker 3: because I was a kid and I had no money,
Speaker 3: and I had a lot of friends.
Speaker 1: And so friends and a pizza party, yes the way
Speaker 1: to move.
Speaker 3: And we actually we carried a couch one time through
Speaker 3: Washington Square Park. One of my favorite photos that I
Speaker 3: have of me and my friends will helping me move,
Speaker 3: like sitting on that couch in front of the arch
Speaker 3: in Washington Square Park. But now that I'm older, and
Speaker 3: because they do rank moving up there with one of
Speaker 3: the most stressful things that you can do in your life,
Speaker 3: and now that my knee doesn't really work that well more,
Speaker 3: I would probably go the hiring movers right perfect, you
Speaker 3: have your out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is actually a perfect thing. And this was
Speaker 1: going to be my next segue. Outside of physically able,
Speaker 1: there are also people who are physically able, but they
Speaker 1: work around the clock NonStop, so that is where there's
Speaker 1: always an exception. And then another thing I would say
Speaker 1: is there's so many different tiers of movers. So maybe
Speaker 1: if you have the heavy couch and you have the
Speaker 1: heavy table, you can find movers that will just move
Speaker 1: these large items, but they do not pack, They are
Speaker 1: not wrapping your things, and you're holding onto all of
Speaker 1: your valuables yourself. So I would say you can always
Speaker 1: use movers for the heavy lifting and then do the
Speaker 1: light stuff yourself. Nothing wrong with that, and lots of
Speaker 1: companies do that.
Speaker 2: So what are some things that people should definitely not
Speaker 2: pack to put in the mood being truck? Like, what
Speaker 2: are some things that I should like maybe put in
Speaker 2: a box and carry it myself or put it in
Speaker 2: my car? Like, what are the things I should keep
Speaker 2: not necessarily on my person, but kind of like in
Speaker 2: my eyesight for the whole time I'm, you know, doing
Speaker 2: this move.
Speaker 1: Any important personal documents those are key. Your passport right
Speaker 1: should be with you, insurance should be with you, and
Speaker 1: anything of like true sentimental value. Yeah right, anything that
Speaker 1: is really personal identifiers, keep that on your person. And
Speaker 1: then medications.
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah good.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I moved across the country
Speaker 3: and I remember like a big thing was that we
Speaker 3: got to our house way before the moving truck did.
Speaker 3: So for those who are going to have kind of
Speaker 3: like a first night in their house before the truck arrives,
Speaker 3: what should be in that first night box? And why
Speaker 3: is it important people pack one?
Speaker 1: Okay? So number one, I think every single human being
Speaker 1: needs to have a blow up mattress. They fold down
Speaker 1: to nothing. Those are the best. Obviously, your medications, a toothbrush,
Speaker 1: and I always say you can keep the same clothes,
Speaker 1: but maybe your undergarments, like one of each. Like maybe
Speaker 1: bring some underwear, some socks, maybe a little, you know, undershirt.
Speaker 3: I always say paper towels. I don't know what you
Speaker 3: feel like. You get into a new place, you don't
Speaker 3: have anything, you need to cook, you order a pizza.
Speaker 3: Maybe things are a little dusty in the bedroom, and
Speaker 3: you want to do some cleaning up before before the
Speaker 3: boxes get there.
Speaker 1: So I'm the person who goes before the moving truck
Speaker 1: to do the thorough clean first, because I don't want
Speaker 1: to put my things in other people's dust. Yes, So
Speaker 1: I say, your first night, you should probably also bring
Speaker 1: a bunch of cleaning products and you should just go
Speaker 1: and be like a great cleaning person for the day
Speaker 1: because you are moving your stuff in there. And also
Speaker 1: when you do a deep clean, you can discover all
Speaker 1: kinds of things that you maybe didn't notice before. Here
Speaker 1: is a fun thing that people don't realize. You could
Speaker 1: move into a place that has carpet and everything looks wonderful,
Speaker 1: and the second you put a heavy box on the carpet,
Speaker 1: termites can start to come out of the carpet, or
Speaker 1: cockroaches can come out of the carpet. I've seen this
Speaker 1: happen before, and this has been in places that are
Speaker 1: like brand new, newly renovated, and maybe have some original
Speaker 1: carpet in one part of the house. So you want
Speaker 1: to clean and know everything in your house before you
Speaker 1: start moving your stuff in.
Speaker 2: No thank you to bugs.
Speaker 4: Yeah new fear unlocked.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, new fear unlocked for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I want to add a few things to our first
Speaker 2: night box. Some betting to throw on that blow up mattress,
Speaker 2: something to cover the windows with, and maybe coffee and
Speaker 2: my coffee maker. But the most important thing might be
Speaker 2: the phone and device chargers. Put those in that box
Speaker 2: and mark the box with some different color packing tape
Speaker 2: or make sure it's like really labeled in large print.
Speaker 2: I also think you're going to want to tell your
Speaker 2: movers if you're using movers, to put that box on
Speaker 2: the truck last so that it comes off first.
Speaker 4: And if you know you're going to beat the movers
Speaker 4: to your new home, just keep the.
Speaker 3: Bucks with you.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: So the other thing about moving, I'm a big post
Speaker 2: it gal myself. I love a to do list and
Speaker 2: I'm always making big ones.
Speaker 1: I'm a cue carter.
Speaker 2: Oh see look at you. Okay, great, wonderful.
Speaker 1: Mine are always color coded.
Speaker 2: Yes, good, okay. So on that list is going to
Speaker 2: be everything that I need to take care of, when
Speaker 2: do I start changing my address and who are the
Speaker 2: companies that I really need to let them know, like hey,
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm leaving this one place and I'm
Speaker 2: going to this other one, so charge me accordingly and
Speaker 2: make sure you have my information up to date.
Speaker 1: I would say the two most important ones are your
Speaker 1: driver's license okay, And I always suggest to people for
Speaker 1: mail forwarding. Once you have your least signed in an
Speaker 1: order you're moving at the end of the month, get
Speaker 1: mail forwarding, And I always suggest do it for six months,
Speaker 1: just so that you can slowly, one by one go
Speaker 1: into the apps and you can change your stuff. But
Speaker 1: you know, something might just go on the wayside. You
Speaker 1: don't really think about it and then you're like, oh, right,
Speaker 1: like I needed to change that. I would say, once
Speaker 1: you know your move and start doing that. But number
Speaker 1: one license and then let your bank know. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: those are the key ones and also really important if
Speaker 1: you're ever moving in with another person, let's say, into
Speaker 1: their least property, make sure you're getting all of your
Speaker 1: mails sent there, so there is proof that you are
Speaker 1: somebody who lives there.
Speaker 3: That's a great point. You typically need proof of address
Speaker 3: for government and financial services, things like getting a real
Speaker 3: ID at the DMV, registering to vote, opening a bank account,
Speaker 3: applying for loans, setting up local utilities, or enruling children
Speaker 3: in public school.
Speaker 1: This is very important for people for sure, and again
Speaker 1: that is for your own protection of going into a home.
Speaker 1: If there's no mail in your name going there, it's
Speaker 1: hard to prove you live there.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about setting up utilities, because one of the
Speaker 2: easiest ways to avoid moving day headaches is to do
Speaker 2: that before you arrive.
Speaker 3: About two to three weeks before you move. Contact your
Speaker 3: providers to schedule services at your new home, aiming to
Speaker 3: have electricity, gas, and water turned on at least a
Speaker 3: day before you move in. Don't forget trash and recycling
Speaker 3: pickup if you're moving into a house, and don't forget
Speaker 3: internet services either. Installation appointents can book.
Speaker 4: Up quickly, so schedule yours as early as possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then leave your old services active until the
Speaker 2: day after you move out. You're gonna want things like
Speaker 2: water and electricity while you're doing that last clean so
Speaker 2: you get your security to.
Speaker 1: Paus it back.
Speaker 3: And another tip I heard was to snap pictures of
Speaker 3: the electric, gas and water meters before you leave your
Speaker 3: old home and when you arrive at your new one.
Speaker 2: Wait, how come?
Speaker 4: Oh, just so you have proof in case you get
Speaker 4: charged for the previous or future person's usage.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. I'm not paying for them, only
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: Thinking about logistics paperwork, what documents, receipts or records should
Speaker 3: people keep throughout the process that might come in handy
Speaker 3: down the line.
Speaker 1: You should always maybe have a monthly bank statement and
Speaker 1: have a clear line of where your rent came out,
Speaker 1: your utilities came out, and all of that, just because
Speaker 1: then you can always explain it down the line. If
Speaker 1: you're moving again, it's like, hey, here's all of my
Speaker 1: proof of rent. That's what you want to hold on to.
Speaker 5: We'll be right back after a quick break, and we're
Speaker 5: back with more grown up stuff.
Speaker 4: How do I don't?
Speaker 2: So we talked about getting ready to move and then
Speaker 2: moving day, But now I want to talk a little
Speaker 2: about what you do once you get your keys. What
Speaker 2: are the first three things that you should do? Like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is where I'm going to be living. So what
Speaker 2: do I check off right away?
Speaker 1: The second I'm walking into the door. One, I'm going
Speaker 1: to check all of the keys work and they've all
Speaker 1: been cut properly. Quick tip, and then we'll circle back
Speaker 1: to that. We always pay key deposits. If you're paying
Speaker 1: a key deposit, don't ask for one key, ask for multiples.
Speaker 1: I don't care. You tell them I need one, my
Speaker 1: wife needs one, and I need one for the dog walker.
Speaker 1: You were pre paying them two hundred dollars for keys.
Speaker 1: They don't cost that much, so that would be number one.
Speaker 1: Number two. Once I go in, the first thing I'm
Speaker 1: checking is the furnace. I'm checking that the air conditioning works.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to the furnace and I'm going
Speaker 1: to make sure the filter is fresh and good. And
Speaker 1: then I'm going to go to every single water anything.
Speaker 1: I'm going to run a sink to confirm the pressure
Speaker 1: and make sure it's running smoothly. I'm going to check
Speaker 1: the showers and run them a few minutes, and I
Speaker 1: might run some of my water ten to fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: and go watch around, maybe have somebody in the lower
Speaker 1: level make sure there's no leaking and no surprises. And
Speaker 1: then also check your electrical plugs because if you notice
Speaker 1: a whole panel is off, it's a great way for
Speaker 1: you to learn how to use your fuse box. Or
Speaker 1: it's your first move and day, so your landlord is
Speaker 1: going to be more accessible than two months down the line.
Speaker 1: And then there's never a oh, maybe you broke it. No,
Speaker 1: I just moved in. I open the door, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: So make sure the moving components of the home are working.
Speaker 1: That is your key. And make sure the furnace and
Speaker 1: heating and cooling are in good order, super important. And
Speaker 1: also I'm a firm believer you got to live in
Speaker 1: space to know what works for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one of those people that's like, I just
Speaker 2: want to be settled right away, But until you're in
Speaker 2: the space, you really don't know how your body moves
Speaker 2: in it, sort of like where you want to put
Speaker 2: your coffee cup down each day, or where the sunlight
Speaker 2: is going to be strongest at different times. And so
Speaker 2: like I do think a little bit of time living
Speaker 2: somewhere first then helps give you a better idea of
Speaker 2: like what furniture you're going to need and where absolutely.
Speaker 3: One thing I wanted to talk about is what are
Speaker 3: the services that people should be thinking about around this time.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking like home insurance, lawn care, past control, security.
Speaker 1: If you rent a place that has grass, it's not
Speaker 1: your problem. That's the problem of a landlord, unless you
Speaker 1: work out a deal where they're kind of like, are
Speaker 1: you good with this this, and then it becomes a
Speaker 1: tenant landlord together thing, and a lot of people are
Speaker 1: good with it. They're like, well, of course I live here,
Speaker 1: I'm going to shovel my snow. You're not legally obligated.
Speaker 1: And because you don't own the home, it makes sense,
Speaker 1: right because at the end of the day, it's if
Speaker 1: somebody trips on property. I'm not the existing owner of
Speaker 1: the property, so you can't tell me you need to
Speaker 1: salt your stairs on property that isn't mine.
Speaker 3: And then renters insurance or homeowner's insurance, that's definitely something
Speaker 3: to look into. Renterer's insurance is designed to protect you,
Speaker 3: not the building you live in, so it typically covers
Speaker 3: your personal belongings if they're stolen or damaged, provides liability
Speaker 3: coverage to someone who's injured inside your home, and can
Speaker 3: help pay for temporary housing if your rental becomes unlivable
Speaker 3: after a covered event. What it doesn't cover is the
Speaker 3: building itself. That's your landlord's responsibility, or certain disasters like
Speaker 3: floods and earthquakes, which usually require separate insurance. And renter's
Speaker 3: insurance is generally pretty reasonable for what it covers.
Speaker 2: I think I paid twelve dollars a month.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Like I like to think it's
Speaker 1: all pretty manageable.
Speaker 3: A lot of people use like home security systems and
Speaker 3: stuff when they set up, you know, like locks on
Speaker 3: the doors and the windows and alarm systems.
Speaker 1: Oh, if you're renting in a home, security for the
Speaker 1: wind for sure. If you're in a condo or apartment building,
Speaker 1: I guess that's optional. But the thing is you already
Speaker 1: have a lot of cameras coming, Like they're going to
Speaker 1: notice if somebody I don't know comes with the big
Speaker 1: acts in the elevator and they got off in fourteen
Speaker 1: they know they're on the fourteenth floor. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: would say, oh, yeah, you definitely want some version of
Speaker 1: recording of something. I have internal cameras in my house
Speaker 1: because I'm really neurotic, And I've also had a person
Speaker 1: break into my home while I was there, so I
Speaker 1: keep myself very safeguarded.
Speaker 2: While we're talking about safety, what are checks that every
Speaker 2: homeowner should do during their first week in a new home.
Speaker 2: What should we be doing with our locks and with
Speaker 2: our garage door openers and security codes and things like that.
Speaker 1: I would always want to change everything. You want to
Speaker 1: change that garage coach, your own unique new one. If
Speaker 1: there's existing cameras, you want them to be signed out
Speaker 1: and you want to resign in. You do not know
Speaker 1: who's watching that other side. Yep, you just don't know.
Speaker 1: Locks and doors kind of hard and a rental because
Speaker 1: you can't do much about it, Like you can't change
Speaker 1: the locks, right, so that would be kind of tricky.
Speaker 1: And then one thing I always suggest to people too,
Speaker 1: especially if you're new to an area, is while you're
Speaker 1: looking at an area, my strongest suggestion is go during
Speaker 1: the day and see it, to see the light in
Speaker 1: the place. But you really need to go to your
Speaker 1: local neighborhood when it's dark out. You need to go
Speaker 1: there at ten at night, and you need to see
Speaker 1: what your neighborhood is. Yeah, because you know stuff comes
Speaker 1: out at night that we don't see during the day,
Speaker 1: so know what you're getting into. Take an hour or
Speaker 1: two walk around the neighborhood and maybe try to get
Speaker 1: a glimpse of who the neighbors are, because it could
Speaker 1: be very different living beside a group of twelve people
Speaker 1: in one house or living beside this little elderly couple
Speaker 1: and their cat. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I would also say, we have things like the next
Speaker 2: door app or like the Citizen app here where it's
Speaker 2: like next Door's supposed to be like neighborhood, like hey,
Speaker 2: we're having a tag sale, come whatever. Citizen is more
Speaker 2: like somebody is punching something over here on this block,
Speaker 2: like it's a little more crime driven. But all that
Speaker 2: is to say, maybe glance at the apps to where
Speaker 2: the neighbors are commenting on what's happening in the neighborhood,
Speaker 2: so that you can sort of get a feel for
Speaker 2: like what's happening and who your neighbors are going to be.
Speaker 1: And Facebook can also be your friend because there's so
Speaker 1: many condo buildings that will have these like little groups. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so for sure that I totally agree. Know where you
Speaker 1: are moving, yeah, and also make a list of your
Speaker 1: essentials that you need, Like if you are a daily
Speaker 1: grocery shopper. The nearest grocery store cannot be twenty minutes away,
Speaker 1: right right.
Speaker 2: Also, just on the technology front too, are there any
Speaker 2: smart home devices like security systems or other apps or
Speaker 2: technology upgrades that you recommend setting up right away when
Speaker 2: somebody moves in.
Speaker 3: One of the things I would be so just about
Speaker 3: if I moved into a new place is to get
Speaker 3: a smart thermost at thing, so let me control my
Speaker 3: home from my phone.
Speaker 4: That's how that I want to do.
Speaker 1: Absolutely that keeps heating and cooling really cost effective. You
Speaker 1: don't need to crank it when nobody's there, and then
Speaker 1: if you know you're home at I don't know, seven
Speaker 1: at night, you can go on your phone and adjust
Speaker 1: at six and get your home ready. But just never
Speaker 1: turn them off completely.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 3: A smart thermste that is one of those grown up
Speaker 3: purchases you don't get excited about until the first time
Speaker 3: you cool off or warm up your house before you
Speaker 3: even get home, and it saves you money. You don't
Speaker 3: have to remember to ride the thermostat, you can just
Speaker 3: automate it.
Speaker 2: Speaking of making things more cost effective, I'm curious to
Speaker 2: hear your advice to egg about some affordable ways to
Speaker 2: make a new home feel like a home quickly.
Speaker 1: So I'm an old school sucker for anything monogrammed. I
Speaker 1: think a couple monogram towels are really really sweet, or
Speaker 1: a couple like monogram slippers feel really really special. And
Speaker 1: then I think you need to have some like texture
Speaker 1: and happy going through your house. So you might have
Speaker 1: like wonderful roller blinds. But if you're really old school
Speaker 1: and you like really bold print and like you want
Speaker 1: this on your windows, do it. And also don't be
Speaker 1: allergic to doing light improvements in your space. I understand
Speaker 1: you don't own it, but if you have permission to
Speaker 1: paint and they've agreed to a color, you might live
Speaker 1: there a year or two years that one hundred dollars
Speaker 1: can of paint. When you divide it over, let's say
Speaker 1: seven hundred and thirty days your two year lease at
Speaker 1: twenty five cents a day, you can live in this
Speaker 1: kind of wonderland that you love and the color you
Speaker 1: like that you're happy about. So you know, sometimes you
Speaker 1: have to just do those little upgrades. If they approve
Speaker 1: you to change your faucet to something nicer and it
Speaker 1: doesn't bust the bank or you found a great deal,
Speaker 1: be open to it. This is your home. Whether it's
Speaker 1: your trade of blastt or not, this is your home.
Speaker 2: I'm also a fan of like a little bouquet of
Speaker 2: flowers too, as a little treat for me because I
Speaker 2: just went through a hard move. But also then like
Speaker 2: you can put it on your table and even though
Speaker 2: your walls might be bare, at least you got a
Speaker 2: little flower.
Speaker 1: Going on in there. So I do weekly flowers in
Speaker 1: my house, and I also have a full garden in
Speaker 1: the back that is completely pesticide free, and those are
Speaker 1: my summer flowers. And then in the winter I swap
Speaker 1: it out and my whole house's roses because that works
Speaker 1: with my cat. Yes, but my pestified free plants, those
Speaker 1: all fill my house. So my house last month was
Speaker 1: all paeonies. This month is all going to be daffodils
Speaker 1: and mums. It just keeps changing, and then roses will
Speaker 1: be in like three weeks.
Speaker 2: Perfect love a plant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, flowers are the best if you can squeeze them
Speaker 1: into the budget. They're the cheapest indoor fit possible. They
Speaker 1: really are.
Speaker 3: I'm also a big fan of lighting. People don't really realize,
Speaker 3: like you can get like some pretty affordable lighting online bulbs, yeah,
Speaker 3: even just like the bulbs Christmas lights or like string bulbs,
Speaker 3: and they can really transform a room for cheap.
Speaker 1: And I love those bulbs, like those huge bulbs that
Speaker 1: you can change the colors and manage from your phone.
Speaker 1: They're energy efficient, but also you can make it a vibe,
Speaker 1: so you could have a party room. You could turn
Speaker 1: your whole entire place into red light district with red
Speaker 1: light just for the day to have fun, you know,
Speaker 1: like whatever. So yeah, I like definitely those. And then
Speaker 1: don't be afraid of going to vintage shops to find
Speaker 1: really cool lamps. Yeah, you could find some of the
Speaker 1: most darling things. And like table lamps, they're always like perfect,
Speaker 1: right because we don't ruin table lamps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's not just you moving, but it's a
Speaker 2: whole family. Do you have any advice for really trying
Speaker 2: to make a move less stressful on kids? I mean everyone,
Speaker 2: but really like kids that are going through this, that's
Speaker 2: like a whole new experience for them.
Speaker 1: Honestly, sometimes I think you just have to give your
Speaker 1: kids like little adult jobs and make them feel like
Speaker 1: they're one of the adults. Yeah, It can be as
Speaker 1: simple as if you know that you're dismantling all kinds
Speaker 1: of things in your house, like ease into their imagination.
Speaker 1: Go to your hardware store and get like the world's
Speaker 1: tiniest toolbox with the world's tiniest lightest hammer, and just
Speaker 1: let your kids be part of that adventure. Maybe you're
Speaker 1: boxing up stuff and maybe you just want them to
Speaker 1: go and set up the boxes and they'll feel like
Speaker 1: they're a part of the project. Yeah. I know it
Speaker 1: sounds like tricking your kids, but if you engage their imagination,
Speaker 1: kids are very resilient and kids are very exciting.
Speaker 2: They want to feel like they're helping too, So like, yeah,
Speaker 2: let it very a light box like here you.
Speaker 1: Go absolutely the littlest of things. It could be as
Speaker 1: simple as you put a big box in their room
Speaker 1: and you tell them, like, you know, whatever toys you
Speaker 1: want to give to the other kids, put them here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something, And then it also teaches kids about sharing
Speaker 1: we love, which could be good.
Speaker 4: I love that. I think that's a great piece of advice.
Speaker 3: And then looking back on all of the moves that
Speaker 3: you've helped coordinate, what's something you picked up from someone else?
Speaker 3: That you were like, oh my god, that is an
Speaker 3: amazing idea.
Speaker 1: Best thing I've ever seen are people getting those movable
Speaker 1: storage containers and kind of setting up house in their
Speaker 1: driveway before they go in, where everything's settled in, and
Speaker 1: they have this box in front of their house for
Speaker 1: two three weeks and they move in as they are ready.
Speaker 1: Kind of smart. And then also when you move in
Speaker 1: and you have that storage container, it becomes this kind
Speaker 1: of extra storage space that if you're like, okay, you
Speaker 1: know not, I actually don't need this table anymore, you
Speaker 1: kind of have your built in place to store it
Speaker 1: as you try to sell it online. Perfect. And then
Speaker 1: one of my strongest suggestion uestions is if you can
Speaker 1: afford to do it and have a little bit of
Speaker 1: a carryover of like an extra week in between where
Speaker 1: maybe like your last month went to one place in
Speaker 1: that having that extra bit of time between two places
Speaker 1: can be wonderful, especially if you work a lot, especially
Speaker 1: if you have children or just a lot of moving parts,
Speaker 1: or you know you need to have some extensive things
Speaker 1: in order before you can move in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we got a lot of amazing tips from
Speaker 2: you today, deg but is there anything that we didn't
Speaker 2: touch on that. You want to make sure people think
Speaker 2: about or realize or are just aware of if they
Speaker 2: are preparing or you know, God forbid in the middle
Speaker 2: of a move right.
Speaker 1: Now, just keep an eye on your expenses and get
Speaker 1: really honest with yourself, get really honest with your capabilities.
Speaker 1: Listen to professionals, and never hear a price and assume
Speaker 1: that is your final price. It never is. That goes
Speaker 1: with your utilities, that goes with your moving call, that
Speaker 1: goes with going and buying a couch, Like I think
Speaker 1: people forget sometimes, especially when you move out for the
Speaker 1: first time, They forget that even the most like basic
Speaker 1: streamlined on that big maze Ikia tour that you do,
Speaker 1: your most affordable couch is still five hundred dollars. So
Speaker 1: if you've never bought a couch, you've never bought a
Speaker 1: piece of furniture, now is a really good time to
Speaker 1: go and learn how much furniture costs. Yeah, and some
Speaker 1: things you can't find in a thrift shomp, like it
Speaker 1: might be very hard to find a couch in a
Speaker 1: thrift shomp. True, so know what you're getting yourself into.
Speaker 3: Amazing wow, dag so much great stuff. Thank you so
Speaker 3: much for your time today. We really appreciate you spending
Speaker 3: it with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 3: So the secret to moving is start early, label your
Speaker 3: boxes and don't pack your phone.
Speaker 2: Charger or your coffee maker. Future you deserves coffee on
Speaker 2: moving day and you're gonna need a lot of it.
Speaker 4: Future You deserves so much, so much more.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what this show is all about.
Speaker 3: Hopefully today's tips make moving day a little less stressful.
Speaker 3: So thank you for listening, and we'll see you next
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