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Speaker 1: Ruby. I had a client who ended up using movers

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Speaker 1: and he lost an entire wardrobe box. There was I

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Speaker 1: believe thirteen Gucci shirts in there. His entire collection of

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Speaker 1: twenty five hundred dollars, he also lost thirty thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: WHOA Welcome back to grown Up Stuff, the podcast where

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Speaker 2: we figure out all of the things you feel like

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Speaker 2: you should know by now but maybe don't, because I

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Speaker 2: know I certainly don't. I'm Leah Palmery and I.

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Speaker 3: Met Stillo, and today we're talking about moving, which can

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Speaker 3: be so exciting until you realize you have to move.

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Speaker 2: I think moving is the universe's way of making you

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Speaker 2: a question every single thing you.

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Speaker 3: Own, especially when you're carrying a box labeled miscellaneous that

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Speaker 3: weighs seventy five paths. And then come all the adult

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Speaker 3: things that no one talks about, like transferring utilities, changing

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Speaker 3: your address, setting up your Internet.

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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, somehow the Wi Fi appointment is

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Speaker 2: always at least three days after you've already moved in

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Speaker 2: always yeah.

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Speaker 3: Every time. Today we're getting the ultimate moving checklist from

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Speaker 3: relittered Dag Larsen, So your next move can be a

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Speaker 3: little bit more organized and a lot less chaotic.

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Speaker 2: Well, we look this up and found that affordability is

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Speaker 2: the number one reason people in the US relocate. Moving

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Speaker 2: for a job is the second reason. So with affordability

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Speaker 2: top of mind, let's talk about the hidden or unexpected

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Speaker 2: costs of moving, because I think one of the first

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Speaker 2: things people think when I think about moving is just, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is going to get expensive. So, Dag, what are

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Speaker 2: some of those costs that people often overlook or don't

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Speaker 1: Ooh, my first three? Remember utilities and starting utilities. People

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Speaker 1: always forget that you have to go and get your

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Speaker 1: heat and you're cooling. Those can be three four hundred

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Speaker 1: dollars initiation fees all the time. Same with if you're

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Speaker 1: setting up internet for the first time, you're moving from home.

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Speaker 1: You've never had internet that could have an upfront charge.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you have good credit that you can actually get

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Speaker 1: And then people also forget little expenses that you have

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Speaker 1: right when you move in, like key deposits. I've seen

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Speaker 1: them up to three hundred dollars nowadays. Wow, So you

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Speaker 1: start to factor in that, and I think people underprice

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Speaker 1: how much moving costs and what you're quoted and what

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Speaker 2: I also factor in things like how much am I

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Speaker 2: going to spend at the container store when I want

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Speaker 2: to organize myself, So that's also one thing that.

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Speaker 3: Yet, Yeah, I hadn't even thought about that. I'm just like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to get a new couch. But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean the utility fees, the Keith deposit, all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the small ones that definitely count. And

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Speaker 1: also in this type of day and age, there's a

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Speaker 1: you should be ready for that. Yeah, it's not a

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Speaker 1: mandatory thing, but if you really need to move when

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Speaker 1: other people need to move, sometimes that can happen too,

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Speaker 3: Do you have like a number you recommend setting aside,

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Speaker 3: like three thousand dollars?

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Speaker 1: I have two numbers. Okay, I have a number for

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Speaker 1: then I have a number for a person who's moving

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Speaker 1: you start paying it. I always say, within your budget,

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Speaker 1: don't know what will happen. You really don't, and you

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Speaker 1: might be lined up for your second month of rent.

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Speaker 1: But once you move in and you're paying these initial

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Speaker 3: So let's think about moving as three separate parts, packing

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Speaker 1: Get really clear in what you like and don't like

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Speaker 1: that's in your existing home, And why are you spending

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Speaker 1: paying movers to move things you have no use? For

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Speaker 1: you're moving clutter from one place to another that will

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Speaker 1: Number one, declutter and b ruthless. You already know that

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Speaker 1: you winter coats you have no use for yep out,

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Speaker 1: don't move them to your new place. Start fresh.

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Speaker 3: I love that Marie condo it and then whatever is

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Speaker 3: left you can just pack up. And another tip I

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Speaker 3: dresser drawers to make packing and unpacking easier. Oh and

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Speaker 3: if you're taking a part in any furniture, to make

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Speaker 3: it easier to move, keep all those little bolts and

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Speaker 3: it all stays together. But then if you hire movers

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Speaker 3: you can pay a little more and have them pack

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Speaker 3: everything for you. They usually assume the liability of something

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Speaker 3: they pack gets broken and transit, but if you packed it,

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Speaker 3: it's on you.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So that makes me wonder if I spend the money

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Speaker 2: and I can do this all myself? So dag, what's

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Speaker 2: your advice for like movers or not movers.

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Speaker 1: I've said this before in a video, and I was

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Speaker 1: very clear in how I worded this. If you are

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Speaker 1: physically able to move boxes and do your own move,

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Speaker 1: do it. Just do it, especially in a first move.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you will spend thousands

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Speaker 1: And I also, again outside of finance, I'm a big

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Speaker 1: believer that says, you know, stretch yourself to the limit,

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Speaker 1: know how to make yourself a coffee, make yourself a coffee.

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Speaker 1: If you can lift a box and you're kind of strong,

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Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I moved myself all the time.

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Speaker 3: I lived in Manhattan, and I kind of moved around

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Speaker 1: And so friends and a pizza party, yes the way

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Speaker 3: And we actually we carried a couch one time through

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Speaker 3: Washington Square Park. One of my favorite photos that I

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Speaker 3: have of me and my friends will helping me move,

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Speaker 3: in Washington Square Park. But now that I'm older, and

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Speaker 3: because they do rank moving up there with one of

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Speaker 3: the most stressful things that you can do in your life,

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Speaker 3: and now that my knee doesn't really work that well more,

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Speaker 3: I would probably go the hiring movers right perfect, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is actually a perfect thing. And this was

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Speaker 1: going to be my next segue. Outside of physically able,

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Speaker 1: is there's so many different tiers of movers. So maybe

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Speaker 1: these large items, but they do not pack, They are

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Speaker 2: So what are some things that people should definitely not

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Speaker 2: are some things that I should like maybe put in

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Speaker 2: my car? Like, what are the things I should keep

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Speaker 1: Any important personal documents those are key. Your passport right

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Speaker 1: should be with you, insurance should be with you, and

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Speaker 1: anything of like true sentimental value. Yeah right, anything that

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Speaker 1: then medications.

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Speaker 2: Ooh yeah good.

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Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I moved across the country

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Speaker 3: what should be in that first night box? And why

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Speaker 1: Okay? So number one, I think every single human being

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Speaker 3: I always say paper towels. I don't know what you

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Speaker 1: So I'm the person who goes before the moving truck

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Speaker 1: when you do a deep clean, you can discover all

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Speaker 1: kinds of things that you maybe didn't notice before. Here

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Speaker 1: move into a place that has carpet and everything looks wonderful,

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Speaker 1: cockroaches can come out of the carpet. I've seen this

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Speaker 1: start moving your stuff in.

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Speaker 2: No thank you to bugs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah new fear unlocked.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, new fear unlocked for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I want to add a few things to our first

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Speaker 2: something to cover the windows with, and maybe coffee and

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Speaker 2: my coffee maker. But the most important thing might be

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Speaker 2: the phone and device chargers. Put those in that box

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Speaker 1: This is very important for people for sure, and again

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Speaker 1: You should always maybe have a monthly bank statement and

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Speaker 1: The second I'm walking into the door. One, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to that. We always pay key deposits. If you're paying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm one of those people that's like, I just

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking like home insurance, lawn care, past control, security.

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Speaker 1: If you rent a place that has grass, it's not

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Speaker 3: And then renters insurance or homeowner's insurance, that's definitely something

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Speaker 2: What should we be doing with our locks and with

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Speaker 2: smart home devices like security systems or other apps or

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Speaker 2: technology upgrades that you recommend setting up right away when

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Speaker 2: somebody moves in.

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Speaker 3: One of the things I would be so just about

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Speaker 3: if I moved into a new place is to get

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Speaker 3: a smart thermost at thing, so let me control my

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Speaker 3: home from my phone.

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Speaker 4: That's how that I want to do.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely that keeps heating and cooling really cost effective. You

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Speaker 1: don't need to crank it when nobody's there, and then

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Speaker 1: if you know you're home at I don't know, seven

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Speaker 1: at night, you can go on your phone and adjust

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Speaker 1: at six and get your home ready. But just never

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Speaker 1: turn them off completely.

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: A smart thermste that is one of those grown up

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Speaker 3: purchases you don't get excited about until the first time

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Speaker 3: you cool off or warm up your house before you

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Speaker 3: even get home, and it saves you money. You don't

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Speaker 3: have to remember to ride the thermostat, you can just

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Speaker 3: automate it.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of making things more cost effective, I'm curious to

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Speaker 2: hear your advice to egg about some affordable ways to

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Speaker 2: make a new home feel like a home quickly.

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Speaker 1: So I'm an old school sucker for anything monogrammed. I

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Speaker 1: think a couple monogram towels are really really sweet, or

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Speaker 1: a couple like monogram slippers feel really really special. And

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Speaker 1: then I think you need to have some like texture

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Speaker 1: and happy going through your house. So you might have

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Speaker 1: like wonderful roller blinds. But if you're really old school

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Speaker 1: and you like really bold print and like you want

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Speaker 1: this on your windows, do it. And also don't be

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Speaker 1: allergic to doing light improvements in your space. I understand

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Speaker 1: you don't own it, but if you have permission to

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Speaker 1: paint and they've agreed to a color, you might live

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Speaker 1: there a year or two years that one hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: can of paint. When you divide it over, let's say

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Speaker 1: seven hundred and thirty days your two year lease at

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Speaker 1: twenty five cents a day, you can live in this

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Speaker 1: kind of wonderland that you love and the color you

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Speaker 1: like that you're happy about. So you know, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: have to just do those little upgrades. If they approve

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Speaker 1: you to change your faucet to something nicer and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't bust the bank or you found a great deal,

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Speaker 1: be open to it. This is your home. Whether it's

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Speaker 1: your trade of blastt or not, this is your home.

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Speaker 2: I'm also a fan of like a little bouquet of

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Speaker 2: flowers too, as a little treat for me because I

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Speaker 2: just went through a hard move. But also then like

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Speaker 2: you can put it on your table and even though

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Speaker 2: your walls might be bare, at least you got a

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Speaker 2: little flower.

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Speaker 1: Going on in there. So I do weekly flowers in

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Speaker 1: my house, and I also have a full garden in

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Speaker 1: the back that is completely pesticide free, and those are

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Speaker 1: my summer flowers. And then in the winter I swap

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Speaker 1: it out and my whole house's roses because that works

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Speaker 1: with my cat. Yes, but my pestified free plants, those

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Speaker 1: all fill my house. So my house last month was

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Speaker 1: all paeonies. This month is all going to be daffodils

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Speaker 1: and mums. It just keeps changing, and then roses will

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Speaker 1: be in like three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Perfect love a plant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, flowers are the best if you can squeeze them

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Speaker 1: into the budget. They're the cheapest indoor fit possible. They

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Speaker 1: really are.

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Speaker 3: I'm also a big fan of lighting. People don't really realize,

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Speaker 3: like you can get like some pretty affordable lighting online bulbs, yeah,

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Speaker 3: even just like the bulbs Christmas lights or like string bulbs,

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Speaker 3: and they can really transform a room for cheap.

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Speaker 1: And I love those bulbs, like those huge bulbs that

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Speaker 1: you can change the colors and manage from your phone.

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Speaker 1: They're energy efficient, but also you can make it a vibe,

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Speaker 1: so you could have a party room. You could turn

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Speaker 1: your whole entire place into red light district with red

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Speaker 1: light just for the day to have fun, you know,

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Speaker 1: like whatever. So yeah, I like definitely those. And then

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Speaker 1: don't be afraid of going to vintage shops to find

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Speaker 1: really cool lamps. Yeah, you could find some of the

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Speaker 1: most darling things. And like table lamps, they're always like perfect,

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Speaker 1: right because we don't ruin table lamps.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when it's not just you moving, but it's a

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Speaker 2: whole family. Do you have any advice for really trying

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Speaker 2: to make a move less stressful on kids? I mean everyone,

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Speaker 2: but really like kids that are going through this, that's

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Speaker 2: like a whole new experience for them.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, sometimes I think you just have to give your

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Speaker 1: kids like little adult jobs and make them feel like

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Speaker 1: they're one of the adults. Yeah, It can be as

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Speaker 1: simple as if you know that you're dismantling all kinds

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Speaker 1: of things in your house, like ease into their imagination.

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Speaker 1: Go to your hardware store and get like the world's

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Speaker 1: tiniest toolbox with the world's tiniest lightest hammer, and just

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Speaker 1: let your kids be part of that adventure. Maybe you're

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Speaker 1: boxing up stuff and maybe you just want them to

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Speaker 1: go and set up the boxes and they'll feel like

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Speaker 1: they're a part of the project. Yeah. I know it

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Speaker 1: sounds like tricking your kids, but if you engage their imagination,

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Speaker 1: kids are very resilient and kids are very exciting.

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Speaker 2: They want to feel like they're helping too, So like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let it very a light box like here you.

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Speaker 1: Go absolutely the littlest of things. It could be as

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Speaker 1: simple as you put a big box in their room

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Speaker 1: and you tell them, like, you know, whatever toys you

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Speaker 1: want to give to the other kids, put them here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's something, And then it also teaches kids about sharing

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Speaker 1: we love, which could be good.

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Speaker 4: I love that. I think that's a great piece of advice.

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Speaker 3: And then looking back on all of the moves that

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Speaker 3: you've helped coordinate, what's something you picked up from someone else?

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Speaker 3: That you were like, oh my god, that is an

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Speaker 3: amazing idea.

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Speaker 1: Best thing I've ever seen are people getting those movable

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Speaker 1: storage containers and kind of setting up house in their

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Speaker 1: driveway before they go in, where everything's settled in, and

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Speaker 1: they have this box in front of their house for

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Speaker 1: two three weeks and they move in as they are ready.

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Speaker 1: Kind of smart. And then also when you move in

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Speaker 1: and you have that storage container, it becomes this kind

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Speaker 1: of extra storage space that if you're like, okay, you

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Speaker 1: know not, I actually don't need this table anymore, you

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Speaker 1: kind of have your built in place to store it

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Speaker 1: as you try to sell it online. Perfect. And then

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Speaker 1: one of my strongest suggestion uestions is if you can

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Speaker 1: afford to do it and have a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a carryover of like an extra week in between where

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Speaker 1: maybe like your last month went to one place in

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Speaker 1: that having that extra bit of time between two places

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Speaker 1: can be wonderful, especially if you work a lot, especially

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Speaker 1: if you have children or just a lot of moving parts,

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Speaker 1: or you know you need to have some extensive things

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Speaker 1: in order before you can move in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we got a lot of amazing tips from

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Speaker 2: you today, deg but is there anything that we didn't

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Speaker 2: touch on that. You want to make sure people think

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Speaker 2: about or realize or are just aware of if they

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Speaker 2: are preparing or you know, God forbid in the middle

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Speaker 2: of a move right.

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Speaker 1: Now, just keep an eye on your expenses and get

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Speaker 1: really honest with yourself, get really honest with your capabilities.

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Speaker 1: Listen to professionals, and never hear a price and assume

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Speaker 1: that is your final price. It never is. That goes

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Speaker 1: with your utilities, that goes with your moving call, that

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Speaker 1: goes with going and buying a couch, Like I think

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Speaker 1: people forget sometimes, especially when you move out for the

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Speaker 1: first time, They forget that even the most like basic

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Speaker 1: streamlined on that big maze Ikia tour that you do,

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Speaker 1: your most affordable couch is still five hundred dollars. So

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Speaker 1: if you've never bought a couch, you've never bought a

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Speaker 1: piece of furniture, now is a really good time to

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Speaker 1: go and learn how much furniture costs. Yeah, and some

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Speaker 1: things you can't find in a thrift shomp, like it

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Speaker 1: might be very hard to find a couch in a

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Speaker 1: thrift shomp. True, so know what you're getting yourself into.

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Speaker 3: Amazing wow, dag so much great stuff. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for your time today. We really appreciate you spending

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Speaker 3: it with us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: So the secret to moving is start early, label your

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Speaker 3: boxes and don't pack your phone.

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Speaker 2: Charger or your coffee maker. Future you deserves coffee on

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Speaker 2: moving day and you're gonna need a lot of it.

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Speaker 4: Future You deserves so much, so much more.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what this show is all about.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully today's tips make moving day a little less stressful.

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Speaker 3: So thank you for listening, and we'll see you next

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Speaker 3: time on grown up stuff, how to adult and.

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