1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Here we go. The official show on the fist Stripes 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: podcast is back. Elis Susman, Managing editor at Fitz Stripes, 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: hosting my solo show here on a Thursday morning, coming 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: off a much needed Marlins win. As usual, this show 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: is presented by Symbol, the Stock Market for Sports. He'll 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: be hearing more about them later in the show. Here 7 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: on Thursday, heading into the series finale against the Diamondbacks 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: and coming off the first win of the series, first 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: win of the week for the Marlins to snap their 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: four game losing streak. On this episode, mostly a laser 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: focus on two players. The winning pitcher on Wednesday in 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: his major league debut, Cody Pote, former guest on the 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: fitz Stripes podcast. You may remember him from twenty nineteen, 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: and also a comparison between Haysius Aguilar, the Marlins leading 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: run producer right now. He's had an incredible first twenty 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of this season and I'm seeing some 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: similarities between him and one of the best first basemen 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: in Marlin's history. So we'll dive into that, and then 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: at the end, just a lot of miscellaneous news and 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: notes about our rehabbing key players like Jazz Chisham Junior 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: and Jorge al Farrow, some other tidbits from the most 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: recent game, and a plug for some of the programming 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: we have coming up here on Fish Stripes in the 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Friday and throughout the weekend and for the foreseeable future 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: that we hope you guys like and engage with. On Wednesday, 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: most of this was recapped on our small pod This Morning, 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: hosted by Daniel Rodriguez. You get those every Tuesday through 28 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: Friday here on the same podcast channel. He went through 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: the three to two win over the Diamondbacks, not a 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: comfortable win and just to head in directions that maybe 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: he didn't touch on. What made this win so unique 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: is that it was a one run game, final score 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: of three to two, Marlin's scoring all three of their 34 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: runs very early and then clinging for dear life at 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: the very end. For the most part, we have seen 36 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: those games slip away from the Marlins this year. We 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: talk about it a lot, how they for weeks now 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: have had the best run differential in the National League 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: East and yet been kind of buried now in fourth 40 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: place in the division, not really challenging for the lead, 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: underperforming their expected performance in terms of their runs scored 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: and runs allowed, just because in these close games things 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: are not going their way. Maybe you want to point 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: to certain decisions that Don Mattingly has been made making 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: or single out some individual players for not coming through 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: in the clutch, But in this game they do hold 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: on for that one run win, and now three and 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: eight this year in one run games, so that's still 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: something that you would hope evens out over the course 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: of the year and allows this team to stick around 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: the five hundred mark, if not even tick above that 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. The focus of this game Cody Pote, 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: right handed pitcher, who I was I was fascinated by. 54 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: I was not overly optimistic about what I'd give from 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: him from this performance, but he is so unique compared 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: to a lot of the other players that are contributing 57 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: to this Marlins team in twenty twenty one, mainly because 58 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: he is a holdover from the old regime, someone that 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: was taken in the heart of the Jeffrey Laurier era 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: way back in the twenty fifteen draft. So he has 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: been in this organization for almost six full years. This 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: technically his seventh professional season, and he finally gets a 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: call up from Triple a after an outstanding first performance 64 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: in Triple A that he gets this opportunity to fill 65 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: in and start. He wasn't on the forty man roster. 66 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: They had to designate Luis Madero for assignment right after 67 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Madero's major league debut. Potit becomes the tenth starting pitcher 68 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: that the Marlins have used this season, and I don't 69 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: think it's any exaggeration that coming off one outing, you 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: have to feel that he is one of the top 71 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: five starting pitchers that we have seen for the Marlins 72 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: this season, behind Sandy, behind Pablo, behind Trevor, probably behind 73 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Eliezer when Eliezer we think comes back from the injured 74 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: list within the next two weeks or so, and then 75 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anybody else who's been more 76 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: impressive in a starting role than Cody Potit was on 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, five innings pitched, two earned runs, allowed four hits, 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: six strikeouts, allows one home run in the process. As 79 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: I posted on the Fish Strip's Twitter account, it is 80 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: a debut that is unlike any we've seen in Marlin's history, 81 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: if you want to get very particular about it, because 82 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: striking out six was zero walks in eight Marlin's major 83 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: league debut has never happened, Never think about that. The 84 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: closest that somebody has come to that was actually six 85 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: do Sanchez last year making his debut, struck out four 86 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: in his five innings pitched, so potit. It should be remarked, 87 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: of course, that last year Universal DH had to face 88 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: a lineup of all position players who knew what they 89 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: were doing up there. This Potit had the benefit of 90 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: facing an opposing pitcher. He struck out Matt Peacock, so 91 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: that was one of his strikeouts, and even still five strikeouts. 92 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: Snowalk's in a major league debut in Marlin's history had 93 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: never happened before, and some of his measurables really jumped 94 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: off the page. I mean the scouting report on him 95 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: in the Marlins. In the Marlins system, we've gotten such 96 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: a long look at him because he's been in here 97 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: for as I said, parts of seven minor league seasons, 98 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: over five hundred professional innings. He had a great track 99 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: record of throwing strikes, he had a good track record 100 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: of durability. I mean the last couple of minor league 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: seasons twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, I believe he gave them 102 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: more total minor league endings those two years than anybody 103 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: else in the organization, So that's something that you tip 104 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: your cap to. He had a diverse pitch mix. If 105 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: you remember him brief appearance on our podcast in August 106 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, he has a five pitch mix, four seamer, 107 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: two seamer, slider, curveball, change up. We saw basically all 108 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: that in this performance. But the knock on him is 109 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: that he just was not going to be able to 110 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: miss bats at the major league level, and that his 111 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: fastball velocity generally in the low nineties and sometimes not 112 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: even that high in some of the outings where he 113 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: had success even in the high minor leagues, and that 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: that would not make the jump over last year. Following 115 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: him pretty closely, I know when he was doing some 116 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: work independently, he was showing that his fastball velocity was up, 117 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: that he was hitting the mid nineties. And then he 118 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: did get at least a portion of the summer he 119 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: spent at the alternate training site in Jupiter during the 120 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty season, even though he was not seriously considered 121 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: for a call up at that time. In spring training, 122 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: a quick glimpse of him, we saw the villa was 123 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: up a little bit, and the same thing in his 124 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: very first triple A outing right before this call up. 125 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: All that being said, it's different when you actually see 126 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: it at the major league level, and in this appearance, 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: not only reaching the mid nineties, but sitting in the 128 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: mid nineties, with his fastball topping out at ninety six 129 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: point eight miles per hour. His fastball ve low in 130 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: the start was just as good, if not slightly higher 131 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: than Jordan Holloway. And yet Potit comes here kind of 132 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I mean, Craig Misch gave us a 133 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: heads up about him potentially starting this game because he 134 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: was on the taxi squad that was with the team 135 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: on this road trip. That was a little fuzzy is 136 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: who exactly was even available to be called up in 137 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: this situation. In Potit gets the nod, and I mean 138 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: the fastball is what jumps off the page immediately. But 139 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: watching the game, it was also the fact that he 140 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: had good command of all of his off speed pitches 141 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: as well. He had a couple key curveballs that he 142 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: was painting the corner with. He was keeping his change 143 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: up low in the zone. In addition to the great 144 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: fastball velo. He's keeping the four seamer up and the 145 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: change up low. That's such a basic fundamental of quality 146 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: pitching that as long as you are releasing those two 147 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: pitches the same way, but they're winding up in very 148 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: different locations, you're going to get a lot of results. 149 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: And we got to give credit to his slider as well. 150 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: This is one where the measurables on that jump off 151 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: the page fifty percent called strike plus whiff rate CSW, 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: which is a stat I'll be using more moving forward, 153 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: just to give you an idea of how much a 154 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: pitcher is dominating the game by getting called strikes and 155 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: by missing bats, things that they can basically control themselves. 156 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: And so the slider, you only threw it ten times, 157 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: but when he threw it it was great. And a 158 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: key that makes you really confident in it moving forward 159 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: is the spin rate that he got on that slider 160 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: maxed out at eight hundred and sixty eight revolutions per minuted. 161 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: It averaged two seven hundred and sixty four. That doesn't 162 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: mean much to you, alongs I put it into context 163 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: that spin rate on his slider is higher than anybody 164 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: else on the Marlins pitching staff this season by a 165 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: pretty big margin too. The leaders top five this season 166 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: and age slider spin rate five Yimi Garcia, you know 167 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: that great slider John Curtis four, And same thing with Curtis, 168 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: that's a key pitch for him. I just had a 169 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: lot of success with. Number three is actually Paul Campbell, 170 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: who unfortunately is not going to be available for the 171 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: foreseeable future. Number two is you know, my personal favorite, 172 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: Anthony Bender, great slider, and that's got good results from 173 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: him in this small sample in the majors. Number one 174 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: is Cody Potit and it's one hundred and thirty revolutions 175 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: permitted higher than any of these other pitchers on the 176 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: Marlin staff with his slider spin rate. So as long 177 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: as he continues to have a generalogya of where that 178 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: pitch is going, you would expect a lot of movements 179 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: to come on that pitch, a lot of late movement 180 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of positive results. 181 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: Just thankful pitching with the thankful heart, I mean a 182 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: little bit nervous, but just focused on executing and just 183 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: what a blessing it was to have this opportunity. So 184 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 2: just pitching with a thankful heart. 185 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: Potit almost five great endings. That home run in the 186 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: fifth on I guess that was a hanging curveball right 187 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: that brought the game within some doubt in that moment, 188 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: and of course the game was kind of dicey all 189 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: the way to the very end, so that kind of 190 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: downgraded the start from from great to just fine. He 191 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: hung curveball to pinch hitter Andrew Young when he was 192 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: just one out away from getting through that fifth ending. 193 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: He's on the forty man. Now. We know that they'll 194 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: need another fifth starter on this road trip, even with 195 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: the off day coming up on Monday, so the next 196 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: turn for potit would probably be on Tuesday. We'll see 197 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: exactly how Don Mattingly wants to move that around, but 198 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: I would absolutely expect him to start again in that 199 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies series, it's just a really refreshing story, and honestly, 200 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: it's a surprise to see that the Marlins trusting him 201 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: in this situation, trusting him at all at this stage 202 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: of his career. We have seen in case after case 203 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: after case, even the guys that you haven't even noticed 204 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: getting booted from the organization because they were acquired under 205 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: the old regime that were valued for different reasons that 206 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: perhaps the new front office doesn't quite value as much 207 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: and they aren't given this opportunity to contribute at the 208 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: major league level yet the Marlins and Potit obviously gets 209 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for this, working on his game 210 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: during the pandemic season and getting this opportunity to reach 211 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: the majors to perform with his wife and his child 212 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: in attendance for this game in Arizona. That was awesome 213 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: to see a couple looks at that from the Bally 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: Sports Florida broadcast crew. Just a beautiful moment, really one 215 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: of the more important moments of this season. Knowing that 216 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: the team was in the midst along losing streak, they 217 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: got kind of a blessing in this one that Zach 218 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: Gallen was scratched at the last minute and placed on 219 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: the injured list, hoping for him to make a full recovery. 220 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Because you like it or hate it, that the Marlins 221 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: don't have him anymore. He's won the more dynamic pitchers 222 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: in baseball period, so hoping he gets back healthy and 223 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: that we get to see a matchup with him in 224 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: the future and for years to come. But in this 225 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: game they get to phase Matt Peacock, they jump on 226 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: him early and then they fail to add on from 227 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: that point forward. So they needed a good pitching performance 228 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: to finally snap this losing streak, and so they looked 229 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: even the series on Thursday. You like their chances with 230 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Rodgers. Extra rest for Trevor coming into this game 231 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: that he seems to have the advantage in this one, hopefully. 232 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: A couple of key bats that were rested on Wednesday 233 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: for the Marlins. Brian Anderson, well, it didn't get the start, 234 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: but came off the bench. Garrett Cooper, who we have 235 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: a long article on Fishtripes about Garrett Cooper and where 236 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: he's at that there's still some hope for him to 237 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: bounce back. 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The other star from Wednesday's game, 269 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,359 Speaker 1: aside from Cody pot Heat on the offensive side, Heesus 270 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: Aguilar and that's been the case for basically most of 271 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: the season, and especially when the Marlins are on the road. 272 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: He is arguably the best road hitter in all of 273 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: baseball this season if you look it up the park 274 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: adjusted stats. Of course, hitting all nine of his home 275 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: runs this season on the road, and the vast majority 276 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: of his National League leading runs batted in also coming 277 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: in road games. He's been incredible. Again, I have that 278 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: article up about Garrett cooper struggles this year. It's you 279 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: need to at least acknowledge the fact that Cooper thought 280 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: he would be getting some significant playing time at first 281 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: base this year. That Aguilar, despite the positives he brings 282 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: to the table without the DH, there was the expectation 283 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: that he would be something less than a full time player. 284 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: And from the word go, I mean he has seized 285 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: that first bag job. He had that long on bass 286 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: streak to start the season and then the power kicked 287 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: in once he got those rapas back into his diet. 288 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: That was the key, at least in his opinion, and 289 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: it's showing up on the field. Delightful home run in 290 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: the first ending of this game. I took a screenshot 291 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: of it. That the ball was most of the way 292 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: to home plate before he even started his swing, and 293 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: yet he was able to pull it all the way 294 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: down the left field line off the foul pole. You 295 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: just do not see players with hands as quick as that. 296 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: There's been some great analysis about Aguilar recently smarter people 297 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: than I on a picture list and on fangrafts. I 298 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: will link to those articles in the podcast article, our 299 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: podcast description on our website at fits stripe, so you 300 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: could find that analysis more easily. That Aguilar has reinvented himself. 301 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: That there are indications that he doesn't have the same 302 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: raw strength that he did a few years ago when 303 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: he was an All Star, and yet he is producing 304 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: at the best level of his career because he is 305 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: swinging at the right pitches, he's getting in good counts, 306 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: and he still has that remarkable coordination that such a 307 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: skilled hitter. And it's not a perfect comp but one 308 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: guy I do get some familiar feelings about you have 309 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: to go way back to find the last time the 310 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: Marlins really had a first baseman like this. Yes, there 311 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: were some positives during the Justin Bohrer era. You could 312 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: go back a little bit further, Gabby Sanchez Rookie of 313 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: the Year and a nice year after that. They had 314 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: that in between period as well in mid two thousands, 315 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: so Mike Jacobs mixed in there, but really two thousand 316 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: and five Carlos Delgado. I'm not going to compare their 317 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: careers overall on the same page. You know, that's unfair 318 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: to Delgado, who was a borderline Hall of Famer when 319 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: all was said and done, and you need to really 320 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: appreciate what he was able to accomplish throughout the nineties 321 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: and throughout much of the two thousands, including in two 322 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: thousand and five. And it's not a perfect comp because 323 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: of their age. I mean, del Gatto was in his 324 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: age thirty three season, Aguilar in his age thirty one season. 325 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: He has that birthday later in June. But the similarities 326 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: in the production so far are remarkable. You'll remember del 327 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: Gato that year it was the first year of a 328 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: four year contract and he had thirty three home runs, 329 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen RBIs three zero one, batting average 330 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: OPS nine eighty one. He finished sixth in NL National 331 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: League MVP voting, even though that's team fell short of 332 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: its goals, and I think fell short of a lot 333 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: of people's expectations in two thousand and five, but he 334 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: was an on base machine, and he was such a 335 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: solid producer at first base, power to all fields. The 336 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: comparisons are remarkable statistically to this point in the season, 337 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: Delgado that nine eighty one OPS, Aguilar entering Thursday's play 338 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: a nine to fifty eight OPS almost the same. But actually, 339 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: when you take a stock of where we are in 340 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball in terms of the run environments, where 341 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: this year offense is way down from where it's been 342 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: in the recent history, that Hayesus is having the better 343 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: league adjusted offensive output very slightly. But he has the 344 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: edge over del Gato to this point in terms of 345 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: OPS plus he's sixty three percent buffallely gaverage, where del 346 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: Gatto was sixty one percent. In terms of weighted runs 347 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: created plus, there's an also like a three point gap 348 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: there between Aguilar and del Gatto in favor of Aguilar, 349 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: he's been he really has been spectacular. There's not enough 350 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: superlatives for that. An interesting place where Aguila really distinguishes 351 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: himself is defensively. Now, I mean sixteen years ago. It's 352 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: gonna be hard for me to evaluate a defensive season 353 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: that far back in my memory banks with Delgado for 354 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: whatever reason, at least when you look back out the 355 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: numbers on it from defensive front saved, from total runs saved, 356 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: total zone runs that any way you try to quantify 357 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: it that Delgado's two thousand and five season was statistically 358 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: the worst defensive season of his entire career, So I'm 359 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: not sure that really measures up. I don't want to 360 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: like deduct too much from his contributions that you're just 361 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: based on those defensive estimations, but that drags him down 362 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: to about a three win player during that two thousand 363 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: and five season, which was It's pretty crazy for a 364 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: guy that was actually that borderline MVP candidate to only 365 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: be a three win player. I'll give him the benefit 366 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: of the doubt and assume he wasn't as much as 367 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: a liability there as he is this season with Aguilar, 368 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: even though you know what he looks like, you know 369 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: the athleticism is somewhat limited, at least in terms of 370 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: his his agility and all that, but as an overall 371 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: defensive first baseman, he's doing a fine job this year. Obviously, 372 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: the punctuation point on Wednesday's game was making that line 373 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: drive catch and turning it into a double play to 374 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: seal the victory at one run win. And maybe he 375 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: gets some credit for being positioned in the right places. 376 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: I've been very complimentary of what the Marlins coaching staff 377 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: has done with Trey Hillman and getting these fielders in 378 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: the right spots. So I guess that puts them in 379 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: a nice position to succeed. If he's someone that is 380 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: limited in terms of his mobility, but he's a sure 381 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: handed guy, he's got those great reflexes, and overall he 382 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: grates out as something relatively close to a league average 383 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: defensive first basement. So that's gonna make a key difference. 384 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: So can he like sustain this with what agal with 385 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: what del Gatto did, Because at this moment, he's played 386 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: almost one quarter of as much playing time as del 387 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: Gatto had, and he's on pace four more home runs. 388 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: He's on pace for like thirty seven thirty eight home 389 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: runs instead of Delgatto's thirty three. He's on pace four 390 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: or one hundred and thirty something runs batted in where 391 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: del Gatto had one hundred and fifteen. That he's a 392 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: lot of little things too. That because he's elevating the 393 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: ball more, he's not grounding into double plays. Aguilar has 394 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: only hit into three double plays at this stage of 395 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: the season, which, I mean, you pro rate that out 396 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: and it's still a significant number. But he's kind He's 397 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: a guy that would be very easy to double off 398 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: if he's not elevating the ball, and the fact that 399 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: he's doing so is remarkable. Really, the biggest, most fascinating 400 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: development for Hayesus is that he doesn't strike out anymore. 401 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, with del Gatto, for as great a career 402 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: as he had, he was always somewhat prone to swinging 403 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: and missing, especially compared to the norms. During that era, 404 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: he was striking out twenty percent of the time league 405 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: average sixteen and seventeen percent, and we know with a 406 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: trend that that has gone. I mean, there are more 407 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: strikeouts than ever in today's game. It's nearly twenty five 408 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: percent of the time, and yet this season Hayeshu's Aguilar 409 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: is only striking out fifteen one point nine percent of 410 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: the time. It is a career best for him, a 411 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: career low. In other words, that he is putting the 412 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: ball in play and we saw him make a nice 413 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: strides in that department last year. We've had articles about 414 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: it on our site from Juan Payis Wan Pays is 415 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: a huge agalar advocate, and that trend has just kept ongoing. 416 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: It defies a lot of what the typical aging curve 417 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: looks like that with these first basemen only types, they 418 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: can kind of disappear very suddenly once their batspeed dips 419 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: a little bit, and sometimes they compromise their approach in 420 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: order to still have opportunities to hit home runs. And 421 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: with Aguilar, he has gone in a different direction. He's 422 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: just totally elevated his game and that he's still hitting 423 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: those home runs without compromising his ability to make contact 424 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: and to take walks. He's also drawing walks at the 425 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: highest rate of his career twelve point three percent. His 426 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: walk rate almost identical to what Delgados was back in 427 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Again, the power right now is 428 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: even a little bit ahead of where Delgado was. Granted, 429 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: he's now playing in Lone Depot Park where they brought 430 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: in the fences a little bit, and yet, but he 431 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: hasn't had any home runs at home yet, so he's 432 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: not even taking advantage of slightly narrower dimensions at his 433 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: home ballpark. Yet he's doing it all on the road, 434 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: which honestly makes it a little too early to gauge 435 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: exactly where the season is going once he does play 436 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: more games at home, because he wouldn't be the first. 437 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: He's hardly the only player on the team that has 438 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: those bizarre reverse splits where they're so much better away 439 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: from Miami than they are playing in front of the 440 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: home fans. We'll need a larger sample to balance that out. 441 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: Because Marlins in the midst of another long road trip, 442 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: I think, more so than any other team in baseball, 443 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: the first third or so of their schedule is extremely 444 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: heavy on road games. The Marlins have to be thrilled 445 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: with what has happened with Aguilar. I mean, I guess 446 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the final point I want to make about these two 447 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: is their salary. So technically, Hasu's Aguilar is making more 448 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: money this year than Carliles Delgatto was in the first 449 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: year of his free agent deal with the Marlins. And 450 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: if you know anything about that Jeffrey Lauria era, then 451 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: maybe that doesn't surprise you. You know that del Gatto's 452 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: contract was extremely backloaded, only a four million dollar base 453 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: salary during that first year. They ended up trading him 454 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: after that two thousand and five season, blowing it up 455 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: to strip down payroll heading into two thousand and six 456 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: and dumping most of that contract on the New York Mets. 457 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: And he beat up the Marlins a little bit in 458 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: the next few years following that, helping them. That's make 459 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: at least one playoff birth, if not a couple. During 460 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: those ensuing years with Aguilar, they're just going year by year. 461 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: He's still in the midst of his arbitration years. He's 462 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: eligible again next year. There was some question as to 463 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: whether they'd bring him back this year, knowing there was 464 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: that uncertainty about the designated hitter. Ultimately they didn't even 465 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: have the DH for this season, despite holding out hope 466 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: until kind of the last minute. It's something that we've 467 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: mentioned time and again on here how that has hurt 468 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: the Marlins. They had plans. It was pretty clear that 469 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: major League Baseball won tip their hands, but the Marlins 470 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: expected eventually there to be that compromise between the league 471 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: and the players' union. It didn't happen. They got stuck 472 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: in this situation for a variety of reasons. Garret Cooper 473 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: has been a big victim of that scenario, but Hayseus 474 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: Aguilar has not made any excuses. He's starting basically six 475 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: games a week at first base, doing a fantastic job 476 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: at it in a year where first base production in 477 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: the National League is pretty terrible. So he is without 478 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: a doubt in the midst of those All Star conversations 479 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty eighteen. And he is 480 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: such a great ambassador for the game, just on top 481 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: of everything else, such a quality teammate, someone who crosses 482 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: that aisle between English speakers and Spanish speakers and media 483 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: and fans, everybody. He is awesome and the Marlins have 484 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: to be thrilled with what they're getting out from him. 485 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: Some very interesting decisions coming down the pipeline. Because Leywin Diaz, 486 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: who's personally one of my favorite prospects in the system 487 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: at first base, he is off to a good start 488 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: in Triple A. Jacksonville we know that the Marlins internally 489 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: were pretty high on him as recently as last spring, 490 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: that I don't think they're gonna keep him in the 491 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: miners all season along. He's gonna be pushing to come 492 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: up eventually that they I don't think they're going to 493 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: trade Laywin at any point right now that they're maybe 494 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: Hayseysaguelar makes that just a very fascinating decision because even 495 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: if you don't think Aguilar is going to do this 496 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: for the next five years, the next eight years, that 497 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: you can't really expect much more from a player than 498 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: what he's giving them right now. So at the very least, 499 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: it has boosted his trade value if they decide to 500 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: unload Aguilar and sell high on him. If this team 501 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: falls out of contention a little bit. The hope, of course, 502 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: is that there will be a universal designated hitter last year, 503 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: so maybe they don't need to rush into anything that 504 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: they can just count on the DH coming back. If 505 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: they're willing to give Aguilar a substantial raise and arbitration 506 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: next year, they have the rights to do so, and 507 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: you hope they take advantage of that. This is a 508 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: team that historically has not done that because they've liked 509 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: to pinch pennies, always looking for cheaper solutions, but when 510 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: Aguilar performs at this level in knowing what he means 511 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: to this clubhouse as well, that he's a great value 512 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: and it's been a great find for this team. So 513 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: on the next episode, I think we're going to get 514 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: into a little bit of where players stand in terms 515 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: of their trade value and how that has fluctuated since 516 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: the start of the season, both in terms of players 517 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: on the Marlins organization who how they rate as trade 518 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: bait at this moment, and also if you're looking towards 519 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: key acquisitions for the Marlins, to make how certain trade 520 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: targets are being valued on other teams that might match 521 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: up with the Marlins. So we're gonna play around with 522 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: that a little bit. Never too early to begin looking 523 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: at trades as we come up on the one quarter 524 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: point of the season. Thanks for listening as always to 525 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: the official show, and thanks for supporting our partners at Symbol. 526 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: Make your deposit if you haven't already. With our promo 527 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: code fish Stripes All one Word, try to tune in 528 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: on Friday, we once again will be doing a Fish 529 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Stripes Live series preview live stream available on Twitter, on Twitch, 530 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: on YouTube. 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Well at loose one, I mean, 536 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: we have as we speak, Gestishom junior Jorge Alfaro preparing 537 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: to take the field again for Triple A Jacksonville, and 538 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: if all goes well with them on Thursday, potentially one, 539 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: if not both of them might be on flight heading 540 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: out west to LA to join the Marlins steam and 541 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: be reinstated off the injured list. From there. Some fascinating 542 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: roster decisions coming up with this team. 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