WEBVTT - Stop Chasing Emotionally Unavailable People (Listen To This To Attract a Long Term Relationship And Stop Wasting Your Time In The Wrong Ones) With Lisa Bilyeu

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. I'm so grateful

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<v Speaker 1>you're here. Whether it's your first time or you've been

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<v Speaker 1>on this journey with me for a while. This space

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<v Speaker 1>is for you to listen, learn and grow. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>hear it means you're dedicated to making this year the

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<v Speaker 1>best year of your life so far. Now, today's episode

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<v Speaker 1>is a little different, and I'm so excited to share

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<v Speaker 1>it with you. Instead of me leading the conversation, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the one answering the questions. This is a powerful discussion

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<v Speaker 1>between me and Lisa Billu where she's interviewing me on

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most important lessons I've learned about relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this conversation I had with her, and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt I really wanted you to hear it. Lisa is

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute force. She asked me really deep questions that

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<v Speaker 1>made me really reflect and whether you've just been through

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<v Speaker 1>a breakup, whether someone's taken advantage of you, whether you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like someone's just led you on. This episode is

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Thank you so much for listening. Let's dive

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<v Speaker 1>in the number one health and wellness podcast, Shedy Jay Sheddy.

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<v Speaker 2>So many women end up settling now, not because we

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<v Speaker 2>want to, but because we're scared. We're scared of being alone,

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<v Speaker 2>we're scared of starting over, We're scared that maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>as good as we can get. But that fear is

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<v Speaker 2>actually then just keeping us stuck. So how on earth

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<v Speaker 2>do we start making choices based on our worth? So

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<v Speaker 2>we never settle for less than we deserve.

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<v Speaker 1>There's three reasons that we settle. The first is we

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<v Speaker 1>settle because the fear of being alone is greater than

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<v Speaker 1>the pain of being with the wrong person. We settle

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<v Speaker 1>because the suffering we understand feel safer than the happiness.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't experienced yet.

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<v Speaker 1>We settle because a part of us believes that familiarity

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<v Speaker 1>is truth. And what I mean by that is when

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<v Speaker 1>you've experienced mediocrity for long enough, you start to believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's destiny. You start to believe that's the life that's

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<v Speaker 1>been paid forward for you. But the deepest reason we settle,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's something that you alluded to, is that we

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<v Speaker 1>think there's someone better out there, but we don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>they exist for us.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the most interesting part.

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<v Speaker 1>We think there's someone better out there, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe they exist for us. And it's because we have

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<v Speaker 1>such a limited, restricted view of ourselves. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's that we have low self esteem or poor self esteem.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a part of it, But the bigger part is

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<v Speaker 1>we don't actually realize what's possible for us, what's possible

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<v Speaker 1>by us. And that comes because we've been told to

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<v Speaker 1>play small, we've been told to shrink. We've had people

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<v Speaker 1>in our life, relationships past x's, that have made us

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<v Speaker 1>believe that if you play within the confines of these walls,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you're meant to be. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>when I think about your question, the thing that comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind the most to me is I want people

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<v Speaker 1>to start by looking at their life as if they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have any of those scripts. If you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>that script, if you haven't heard those lines, where would

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<v Speaker 1>you start.

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<v Speaker 3>And in order to do.

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<v Speaker 1>This, Lisa, what's interesting is you actually have to disappear

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<v Speaker 1>from your life. Now, what I mean by that is

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to run away, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>quit your job, you don't have to not hang out

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<v Speaker 1>with your friends, but you almost need to sometimes stop talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the reason sometimes we feel we have too

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<v Speaker 1>many opinions in our life is because we are the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong people the right questions? Right, we asked the right questions,

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<v Speaker 1>like do you think this person's right for me? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think I should be in this relationship? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think this is the best I can do? But we

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<v Speaker 1>ask them to the wrong people. And it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>We ask other people questions, but we never ask ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>those questions. Yes, and we outsource and crowdsource these major

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<v Speaker 1>decisions in our life. And so what I mean by

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<v Speaker 1>disappearing is we have to take a step back. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to shut our mouth, We have to close off

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and go, am I asking the right

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<v Speaker 1>question to the right person? Or am I asking the

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<v Speaker 1>right question to the wrong person?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so break that down even more because it's so

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<v Speaker 2>hit me when you said we ask people's opinions and

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<v Speaker 2>then we take that on. So like, let's just take families.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm Orthodox and obviously you're Indians, So our family

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<v Speaker 2>culture is very dominant, if you will, in dictating what

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<v Speaker 2>we should do and how we should show up. So

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<v Speaker 2>are you saying, for instance, if we ask our parents, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think of my partner? They're going to

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<v Speaker 2>come from their perspective based on what they think that

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<v Speaker 2>you need in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, when you ask someone a question, we think their

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<v Speaker 1>answer is a prediction of the future, but actually it's

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<v Speaker 1>a projection of their values. It's a projection of their insecurities.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a projection of what they believed was possible for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you an example. I remember a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine was starting to date another girl that we knew,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he asked all our guy friends what they

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<v Speaker 1>thought of this girl, they all said, she's a bit dominant,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a bit controlling. And it was really interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching this happen. And he responded and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like it when a woman's in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I really like it when a woman takes

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<v Speaker 1>the lead and he goes. She may take the lead emotionally,

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<v Speaker 1>but I take the lead financially and she goes. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not threatened by that. I'm actually really comfortable about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of my other guy friends were really uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Now does this make them wrong in him right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just showing that we all have a different skew,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a different priority, different take. But all of

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<v Speaker 1>the guys were like, no, she's the worst, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>would never date her like, don't go out with her,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's now happily married her and they have a

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<v Speaker 1>great relationship. Now, if he would have listened to them

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<v Speaker 1>because he thought, wait a minute, there's seven people here

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<v Speaker 1>that I trust and respect telling me that this woman's

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<v Speaker 1>wrong for me, he would have made the wrong decision.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think so many of us don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>base our decisions on even our self worth or our

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<v Speaker 1>self awareness or our self knowledge. We base it on

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<v Speaker 1>other people's insecurities. And if you're making big decisions based

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<v Speaker 1>on other people's little insecurities, you're setting yourself up for

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<v Speaker 1>a big failure because you may move away from someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's so close to being the right person for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, that's so true. Okay, So if you assess

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<v Speaker 2>this is their belief, this is their opinion, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you then do your words disappear inwards so that you

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<v Speaker 2>can start to listen to your own intuition. And then

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<v Speaker 2>what if that intuition is saying I don't want you

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<v Speaker 2>to be alone, Because that's the second thing. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>there's one thing listening to external, there's a nothing listening

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<v Speaker 2>to your own insecurities.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you're spot on and The reason why you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a point where you're only hearing your

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<v Speaker 1>voice is one voice is easier to manage than thirty voices.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Like, let's just be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of us are surrounded by thirty, forty to fifty opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, when you disappear, move away from all the opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>The way I recommend you do that is doing a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty day opinions fast and if thirty days is too long,

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<v Speaker 1>try a seven day opinion fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So for seven days, any.

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<v Speaker 1>Time you think about asking someone for their opinion, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's what should I wear, what should I eat? What

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<v Speaker 1>movie should I watch? What TV show should I watch?

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<v Speaker 1>For the next seven days, you're not allowed to ask anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So every time you have that inkling of oh, let

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<v Speaker 1>me just ask Lisa what should I do? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask myself first. I'm going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>myself and I'm going to have the courage to make

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<v Speaker 1>the decision and go out there anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to resist that urge to try.

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<v Speaker 1>If I on the outfit, take a picture, send it

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<v Speaker 1>to a group of friends, try on the other outfit. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna make a decision, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>see what it feels like. Let's start with really low

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<v Speaker 1>hanging fruit. Let's not do it when we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest part of the year or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it when you're going out for movie night, picking

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<v Speaker 1>a dinner, picking a TV show to watch. Make it

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<v Speaker 1>really simple. Do it for the simple things. When you

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<v Speaker 1>start doing it for the simple things, what happens you

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<v Speaker 1>start realizing there was no right outfit, You start realizing

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<v Speaker 1>there was no right pair of earrings. All you realize

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<v Speaker 1>is that you start trusting your own voice inside, You

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<v Speaker 1>start trusting your choice, or you start realizing when you

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<v Speaker 1>could have landed a little bit, when you could have

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<v Speaker 1>got something better, there was something that was editable. And

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<v Speaker 1>now you've realized it's all doable. It's not life or death.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got to start with the small stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason, Lisa, I say start with the small stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is because that voice, that inner voice that you and

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<v Speaker 1>me have, has got so quiet, it's got so weak.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what that in a child, that in a voice

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<v Speaker 1>is like inside of us. You can barely hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's step one, step two, Like you said, now

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<v Speaker 1>you realize it's actually your voice. You're sitting there on

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<v Speaker 1>your own and your voice says, I hate being alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate being alone. I hate being alone. There's three

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<v Speaker 1>things that are important when you hear the words I

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<v Speaker 1>hate being alone. The first is, all the studies show

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<v Speaker 1>that when we make a decision because we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be alone, we pick the wrong person. All the

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<v Speaker 1>studies show we stay with the wrong person when we're

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<v Speaker 1>scared of being alone. And thirdly, we settle for less

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<v Speaker 1>than we deserve. We have to realize that the person

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to pick when you're alone is almost guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the wrong person. You're going to accept behavior

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<v Speaker 1>you never would. You're going to settle for language you

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<v Speaker 1>never would, You're going to accept actions that you never would,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's where your decisions being made. Now, that's logic,

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<v Speaker 1>But the voice I'm being alone is not logical. The

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<v Speaker 1>voice I'm scared of being alone is emotional. I think

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<v Speaker 1>so many people today who are desperate and scared of

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<v Speaker 1>being single don't realize that that pain of being single

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<v Speaker 1>is far less than the pain of being in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and wanting a divorce or a breakup. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>in that position, you can't get out of it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot harder than the pain of will I find someone?

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<v Speaker 1>If you've got the courage, and I really believe everyone

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<v Speaker 1>gets to this point in their life. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>sit with yourself and ask yourself, why why am I

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<v Speaker 1>scared of being alone? Where did that come from? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it because everyone in my family always told me that

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<v Speaker 1>marriage was the pinnacle of life. Is it because all

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends are getting engaged and proposed to Is

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<v Speaker 1>it because I grew up in a big family and

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<v Speaker 1>I like being surrounded by people. Is it because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have someone to go to movies with or I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have someone to go out to brunch with on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And then what you do is, for each knee that

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<v Speaker 1>you think a partner is going to solve, you find

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<v Speaker 1>another person in your life who can solve it. So

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<v Speaker 1>make a list, brunch, watching movies, going out, vulnerable talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is that you think a partner is going

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<v Speaker 1>to provide, go and find one friend that solves it,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, your life starts to feel full.

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<v Speaker 3>All of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Sudden, you're not alone anymore because you found friendship, you

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<v Speaker 1>found connection. Now you're in a position of peace. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give an example. Actually, Lisa so I became Match dot

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<v Speaker 1>COM's relationship advisor a year ago, and the goal was

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to create a platform where I could create

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<v Speaker 1>my philosophy but make it practical anyway. The reason I

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<v Speaker 1>say that is we did an event for one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>singles in LA just two three weeks ago. Everyone came

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<v Speaker 1>with open minds. It was really interesting. But the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I brought it up is I was talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>about how we have two mindsets when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>dating and finding love. One is we have a passive mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>or it will happen when it happens. Oh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really looking for it, it will just appear.

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<v Speaker 1>And secretly, deep down we're really scared and insecure, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have this passive exterior.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because if you're passive, you're not putting yourself out there,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't feel rejected exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the second thing we have I was telling

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<v Speaker 1>this group is that you have a pressure filled mindset.

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<v Speaker 3>So the pressure is, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, everyone's got engaged, Oh my god, everyone's got married,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, everyone's having kids. Oh my god, everyone's daying.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, everyone's on vacation. So now it's like desperation.

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<v Speaker 1>How will being passive or feeling pressure ever ever attract love?

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<v Speaker 1>Being passive doesn't attract love, Feeling pressure and desperation doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>attract love. The state that attracts love is peace or

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<v Speaker 1>at least it attracts a peaceful love, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all truly want. And so if you're passive,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll attract a neglectful love. If you're desperate, you'll attract

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<v Speaker 1>a weak love. But if you're peaceful, to attract a

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful love. And the reason I say this is if

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to come up with all the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be alone and find people to

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<v Speaker 1>help with all of those feelings, you're now in a

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<v Speaker 1>state of peace.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why. That's the answer that works.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude. That was so good. Okay, So let's say you've

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<v Speaker 2>done the work that you've just laid out and you

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<v Speaker 2>really start to go inwards. But there's also the person

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<v Speaker 2>that ends up choosing the wrong person time and time

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<v Speaker 2>again and becomes this toxic cycle. And I'm really curious

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<v Speaker 2>on why on Earth sometimes we go for the person

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't right for us and ignore the person that

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<v Speaker 2>actually is right for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, such a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Honestly, I can think of like at least five

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<v Speaker 1>people I know that are in that position. And everything

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to say, I want it to be noted

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm saying it from a place of empathy and compassion,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is about judgment and it isn't about shame,

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<v Speaker 1>and it isn't about guilt. Because I think often we

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<v Speaker 1>feel that way. We're scared of actually saying this to

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<v Speaker 1>our friends because we're scared they'll judge us and say

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<v Speaker 1>we told you so. We're scared of telling our families

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<v Speaker 1>because they'll say, I knew that guy wasn't right for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden you feel shamed and guilted.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always say to people, guilt blocks growth and

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<v Speaker 1>shame blocks shifts. You're not going to get from guilt

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<v Speaker 1>and shame to growth and shifting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason we're chasing the wrong person is because

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<v Speaker 1>we're running away from the right person.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We've confused inconsistency with excitement, and we've confused stability with boredom.

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<v Speaker 1>We've confused attention with love, and we've confused effort with desperation.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone puts in effort, we see them as being desperate.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone puts in time, we see them as being needy.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone turns up and shows up, we think they're

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<v Speaker 1>the one who needs us. Because we've convinced ourselves that

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<v Speaker 1>love is chasing someone rather than wanting someone who never

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<v Speaker 1>wants to leave. We've convinced ourselves that this treadmill, this

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<v Speaker 1>rat race of convincing someone to stay is what love is.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think the problem is we've created very

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<v Speaker 1>unhealthy views of love. And by the way, I see

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time. At that event that I was

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about, one of the guys, he said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, why is it that when someone's putting effort,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're not attractive? And I said, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking about the next three to six months and

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<v Speaker 1>not thinking about the next five to ten years. I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you, in five to ten years, you want someone

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to sit with you and do nothing on

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<v Speaker 1>the couch. In five to ten years, you'll want someone

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<v Speaker 1>who texts you every day to check in with how

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<v Speaker 1>work is. In five to ten years, you'll want someone

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<v Speaker 1>who when they're traveling, don't forget to call you because

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<v Speaker 1>they want to make sure that you've checked in. But

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<v Speaker 1>if for the first three to six months you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want someone who's giving you two things. You want

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's giving you a feeling of excitement and a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of stress, because that's ultimately what chemistry is. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Will they give me their number? That's the stress. The

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<v Speaker 1>excitement is I got their number. The stress is, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, what should I text them? The excitement is,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, they just text me back. The stress is,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, are they going to say yes to

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<v Speaker 1>a second date? The excitement is yes, they just said yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this kind of oscillating feeling of stress and

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<v Speaker 1>excitement is what creates the spark, is what creates chemistry. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you've been in a long term relationship like you

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<v Speaker 1>and Tom have, or slightly shorter than me and RADI

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<v Speaker 1>have had, now, you don't get stress and excitement. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of it just becomes peace. I don't need to stress

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<v Speaker 1>whether Ruddy's going to be at home tonight, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know she's at home tonight. So the problem is we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to make ourselves realize that what you want now

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<v Speaker 1>and what's right for your future are not the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to live in this bubble of

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<v Speaker 1>excitement and stress, that's going to go anyway. So why

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<v Speaker 1>not find someone who doesn't give you stress, who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>bring you anxiety, who doesn't make you feel nervous. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you shouldn't feel excited to see that person,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a big difference between excitement and anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>God, everything you're saying really hit me in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>of I had been there once upon a time with

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<v Speaker 2>my ex boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>He was very toxic.

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<v Speaker 2>He was very verbally abusive, and I literally when I

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<v Speaker 2>left him. When I finally found the courage day, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm going to find a guy that likes me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's nice, that's kind, that's considerate. I found a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that was nice, kind and considerate before Tom and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, this is boring.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, a really really interesting thing happened at this event.

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<v Speaker 1>I found out in my teens that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my guy friends had a technique they used, and their

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<v Speaker 1>technique was to pick on women or notice something.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a flaw about them.

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<v Speaker 1>So every other guy would come up to you and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, I really liked your shoes, or oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a beautiful smile, or oh, I really like your eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd get looked over, and one guy would come

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<v Speaker 1>up and he would say, there's something off about you today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>The energy around you is just I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like there's something, but I don't know. You're like

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<v Speaker 1>holding back, and all of a sudden, that woman is

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<v Speaker 1>spending the whole evening thinking about that guy. This happened

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<v Speaker 1>to one of my team members a couple of months back,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone came up to her and said, that coat

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<v Speaker 1>you're wearing today just feels like you're scared of opening up.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was thinking about that guy the whole night.

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<v Speaker 1>And there were other men who came and told her

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<v Speaker 1>positive things and beautiful things and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>She couldn't think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think a lot of men have used

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<v Speaker 1>that technique to get attention. And it sounds crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>when you hear it, it logically doesn't make sense, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about it in the moment, you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course that makes sense, because you feel they sense

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<v Speaker 1>something about you.

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<v Speaker 3>You feel they noticed your energy, but they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just trying to find a way and that

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<v Speaker 1>when you were six years old, that was pulling your hair.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the updated version that women experience today.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we love that mystery. We love that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>of like, oh well, if he's being mean, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>his way of flirting with me. But do you want

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's mean when they flatter?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you want? Is that how you want

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<v Speaker 1>to feel? So I don't want someone who notices my

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<v Speaker 1>weaknesses before they notice my greatness. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a matter of priority. But it does come from

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<v Speaker 1>childhood and it continues on. I think a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of it is also we've never seen positive relationships mirrored

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<v Speaker 1>for us, Like when did you grow up? If you

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<v Speaker 1>could remember one positive relationship growing up, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that. And so people are mirroring what they

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<v Speaker 1>saw on TV, They're mirroring what they saw at home,

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<v Speaker 1>they're mirroring what they saw in magazines. I mean, me,

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<v Speaker 1>as an Indian boy growing up in London grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you asked me who I was attracted to, I

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<v Speaker 1>was attracted to blonde.

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<v Speaker 3>Head women with blue eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'd never probably even met someone with blonde hair

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<v Speaker 1>and blue eyes, but that's what I was told to

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love with. That's what was marketed to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think we underestimate how much marketing has

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<v Speaker 1>an impact on us. When I was going to propose

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<v Speaker 1>to RADI, I asked my brother in law how much

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<v Speaker 1>I should spend on an engagement ring, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you should spend about two to three months salary. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, So I went and spent two to

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<v Speaker 1>three months salary. And I'd spoken to a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>other men who'd said the same thing. Thankful led him

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot at that time, so it wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>much of an expense. I bought the ring proposed obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Rather they said, yes, we got married. Now what's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is years later I looked into that because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, how is that so specific? Two to three

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<v Speaker 1>months seems like I really thought through plan. And I

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to a lot of other men who all concurred

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<v Speaker 1>with me that they spent two to three month salary

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how much they made. I started looking at

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<v Speaker 1>it online. I found a de Beer's commercial from the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties. I'm not kidding you. You can go and

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<v Speaker 1>find it on YouTube. YouTube right now. I went onto

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube in the nineteen eighties. There's a commercial which I

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<v Speaker 1>remember it being like a silhouette of a man and

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, and I'm not kidding you. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the commercial it says, what bed a way to

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<v Speaker 1>spend two to three months salary? Oh my god, it

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<v Speaker 1>literally says that, and I couldn't believe it. I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all been brainwashed that I proposed twenty five years

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<v Speaker 1>after that commercial came out. I've never even seen that

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<v Speaker 1>commercial like before that. And I'm following this advice and

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<v Speaker 1>so is everyone else. And I think it also comes

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<v Speaker 1>from our hunter gatherer days that you wanted someone who

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<v Speaker 1>could protect you. You wanted someone who could fight off

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<v Speaker 1>the irons and the snakes. You wanted someone who could

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<v Speaker 1>build a home from scratch. And today our modern day version,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes no sense, Our modern day version is, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what a bad boy can do. A bad boy

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<v Speaker 1>can protect me, a bad boy can do this, a

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<v Speaker 1>bad boy can do that. But that doesn't actually add up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't make sense because protection in modern day

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<v Speaker 1>is very different to protection in ancient days.

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<v Speaker 2>Or now it's related to how much the man earns.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, Well, I mean, well, that's a whole other conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I really think that if you're choosing who you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be with simply based on how much they earn,

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<v Speaker 1>how tall they are, or what job they have, you

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<v Speaker 1>are marrying their salary, their bank account, and their job,

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<v Speaker 1>not them.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It means, yes, you will never run out of money,

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<v Speaker 1>but you may never have enough love. It may mean

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<v Speaker 1>that you can boast about your partner's title, but they

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<v Speaker 1>may not be with you at every place you want

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<v Speaker 1>them to be at. You have to realize what you're marrying,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're committing to. That's what you're getting in this exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think what's really interesting to me is I

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<v Speaker 1>meet a lot of friends and women who say to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I really want a man who's successful, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>him to be my number one cheerleader. And I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you realize that the person who's out there making

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<v Speaker 1>money and being successful, they can't be a cheerleader at

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:22.639
<v Speaker 1>the same time because they've got to be on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>The person on the field can't be your cheerleader. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying that you should choose one over the other.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying, you've got to be clear about the

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<v Speaker 1>choices you're making. I love Radi, I can't be there

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<v Speaker 1>with her as a cheerleader every step of the way

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<v Speaker 1>wherever she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Neither can Radi be with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of men who say the same thing, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I want my wife to be independent, but

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<v Speaker 1>then I want her front row seat when I'm winning,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, well, wait a minute, which one do

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you want? And so I think we're really it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like we want everything and in that we get nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day, I said something to Tom about menopause

0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I just need this because a perimenopause.

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<v Speaker 2>And he turns around to me and he's like, I

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 2>will absolutely support you. But he's like, look, you have

0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 2>a group of girlfriends that are going through the same thing.

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:09.719
<v Speaker 2>He's like, so, no matter how much I try to

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>see you, he's like, I just I cannot see it

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<v Speaker 2>through your eyes because I'm not a woman. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what it's like to be going through this at

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 2>your age. So he's like, I'm doing the research, I'm

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 2>reading the books, but if there is something that I

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 2>just cannot grasp. Turn by all means, turn to your

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 2>friends for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing also, though, is that a lot of women

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 2>do is almost the opposite. So this is what my

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 2>partner wants, this is what they love, So let me

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 2>sacrifice in the small things. It isn't a big deal.

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, all right, fine, I'll go watch soccer

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 2>with him, even if I don't like soccer. That's one thing.

0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 2>But the big ones that actually end up reckoning a

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of women is they've sacrificed their entire lives. They've

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>sacrificed the career for the family, whether it's kids or

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the husband. And as we get older, we start to realize,

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 2>hang on a minute, what about me? And that maybe

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 2>compromise that we felt good with now actually we realize

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 2>was a sac that will never get back. How do

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 2>you differentiate compromise and sacrifice? And where's that fine line

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.880
<v Speaker 2>between one's actually really healthy and one's like the thing

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 2>that will break your relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's two words that I like using more than

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice and compromise because I think they come with so

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>much baggage. And the two words are adjusting and abandoning.

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>And so there's a difference between adjusting yourself and abandoning yourself.

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Adjusting yourself means I'm making room for love. Abandoning means

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm disappearing to make space for it. Adjusting is saying

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to be flexible. Abandoning is saying I'm going

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to bend so much that I'll probably break. Adjusting is growing,

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually becoming better through this choice. Abandoning is shrinking.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm losing myself through this choice. And adjusting is I'm

0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 1>going to help you move forward. Abandoning is I'm going

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.320
<v Speaker 1>to leave myself behind. And so what I find a

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of us do is when we don't know who

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>we are, we abandon ourselves. And the difference is adjusting

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>is something two people do, Abandoning is something one person does.

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Adjusting requires two people to move, to mold, to pivot.

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Abandoning just requires one person to give up everything. And

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>so what I find the reason why a lot of

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>people end up in this place is because they were

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>never told to have their own dream, they were never

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>told they were allowed to have their own mission. They're

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>never told that they had a purpose. And chances are

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.880
<v Speaker 1>they met someone their partner who had a very clear purpose,

0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and they assumed that my purpose must be to help them.

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<v Speaker 1>And it kind of felt good in the beginning, yeah,

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>because it gave life meaning. Right in the beginning, it

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>was all good. It was like, I'm going to do

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>this for them, and they're going out to crush it

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and they'll do really well, and I'll live through them,

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe if I've children, I'll live through them.

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 1>And so all of it becomes living life and meaning

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>through bringing a provider and a supporter of other people. Which,

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>by the way, if it satisfies you, that's beautiful. It

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>sounds like me. And you have met a lot of

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>people who are not satisfied by that. And I think

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the reason for that is your purpose can't be a person, right.

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Your purpose is something that isn't dependent on someone else's existence.

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 3>It's dependent on you. That's what it is.

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>It's something that's connected to you, not connected to you

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>and that person that you're serving. So in the beginning

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>it felt good, we got it, we found meaning. As

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 1>time went on, you started to realize that person was

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>living their dreams and you were just watching them. And

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.360
<v Speaker 1>no matter how good you felt watching that person live

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>their dreams, you want to live your dreams too. Now

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>you have two choices. A lot of us will blame

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>it on that person. And when you blame it on

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that person, chances are you've heard these words before. They'll say, well,

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>they didn't ask you to. I didn't tell you to,

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>And that really hurts, yes, because you've just given up

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>so much and you're like, wait a minute, you didn't

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>ask me to, but you never told me to stop,

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>You never told me not to. You gladly took it

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>when I did it for you, So wait a minute,

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 1>where are we now?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? That fractures the relationship.

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 1>It's one of the biggest reasons people will break up,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>get divorced. Relationship falls apart, they lose connection. So what

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>are we doing that A mature person would never have said, well,

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I never asked you to. A mature person will say, well,

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:30.479
<v Speaker 1>what's your dream? The challenges That person didn't even have

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the foresight to understand that you were going to feel

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>this way. They just got excited that your life looked

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.240
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0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>it works, it's supporting.

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<v Speaker 2>And their response if I never asked you to, you

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>can kind of understand why they would say that as

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>a protective mechanism because it feels right now, Oh my god,

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>is it all my full that your life hasn't been

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>what you hoped it would be. Well, that's a big

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 2>burden for a partner to take on. So to protect yourself,

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 2>you make it that was your decision, which actually is true,

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 2>It is true, but it's really harsh, yes, because you've

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>encouraged them, You've applauded them every time they've made you.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 2>And look, I'm speaking for myself. With me and Tom,

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 2>where it was like every time I would cook dinner

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and clean his clothes, he was always like, You're the

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 2>best Greek wife ever. And then eventually, after eight years,

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't want to cook and clean for

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>you anymore. But he actually never asked me to in

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 2>the first place.

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And that's that like weird space we all

0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>have up in where we take on a role because

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>we get validation in the beginning and we appreciate and

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like that, and then we run out of that role.

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to play that role anymore, by the way,

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>which is also natural. And the problem is when we

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>don't want to play that role anymore, that other person

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>got so used to us playing that role that they're

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>now also going through a grief and we're going through

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>a grief.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 3>They're going through a grief.

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Of our former self that they were in love with,

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and we're going through a grief of our former self.

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>So we're both missing a person who doesn't exist anymore.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>They're missing the person we used to be. We're missing

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>the person we used to be, but we know we

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>want to be a different person, and they're trying to

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>figure out whether they're going to like this different person.

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of play here.

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>What we want to do is if you're at the

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>early stages of a relationship, spot this early. Both men

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and women, whoever you are, whichever role you're playing spot

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>it early. Don't just fall into the trap of oh

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it works for now, let's just see how it goes.

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think if your partner can't see that, you

0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>need to see that for yourself.

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Take responsibility.

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it genuinely comes down to looking back at you,

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>taking control, accountability and power of your life and what

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do with that time and energy. Now,

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>like you just don't want anything you said to sound

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>like you're blaming that other person and shifting the accountability

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>onto them, because, like you said, it's going to feel

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>weighty for them and they're going to feel like, oh god,

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to take on that way. I feel

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>too much pressure. Now I'm going to throw it back

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>on you, and that's what we end up doing. So

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fine to say, hey, I've been doing

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>this for the last ten years. It's not who I

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>want to be anymore. And I understand that that adjustment

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>is going to make changes for you. I'd love to

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>discuss those changes. And now you're talking about the changes

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and the edits not talking about that person and you

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>rather than saying, oh, you won all the awards you

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to wear, am I when you make it about

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you and then all of a sudden you're not talking

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>about what it's actually about, which is, here's how things

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>are going to change. How is this going to affect you.

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>What can we do in the middle period to make

0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the transition more effective. It's change management, not the person management.

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think the challenges we make it about that

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>person and what they should have done, what they could

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>have done, the time we've lost, the energy, we've invested,

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>what we didn't get out of it, And I get it.

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>That is the emotional layer that needs to be explored.

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:18.719
<v Speaker 1>But that's not going to keep that person in your

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>life in a healthy way. It's going to create friction.

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>And sadly, we don't have many good examples of people

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>who've been through that transition because people turn it.

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Into a blame you.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I made sure that I didn't blame Tommy, and

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I needed to make sure it was true before he

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 2>said it. But the truth was he didn't force me.

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>The truth is I never said I was unhappy, like

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 2>all of these things. That had to be very honest

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 2>about of where my actions actually contributed to where I was.

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I actually interviewed recently a guy called Jefferson Fisher and he.

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>So he even said, when you're having a tough conversation,

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>instead of saying I want to talk to you, right,

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 2>that makes it very personal, you say the room. So

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 2>you're saying, I want this room to be a safe

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 2>space where I can be transparent and honest. Are you

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>comfortable with that? And so you're saying it's the room

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>instead of them. You're then getting their buy in to

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 2>say yes. And you're then saying, I don't need you

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>to fix it. I need this to be a place

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>where you can listen. And so you're telling them what

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>to expect. So learning the language to communicate with your

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 2>partners so you don't trigger them, so that you both

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 2>can have an emotionally sober conversation I think ends up

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>being the most fruitful thing that we can do.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I always say to people, use us and we, not

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you and me. So I've had couples that I've worked

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>with write out what they want to say, and all

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>of it is filled with you and me. You didn't

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>do this. It made me feel like this. You always

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>do this. You never think about me. So it's you

0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and me, you and me, you and me, And I've

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>asked them to change every you and me to us

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and we why because now we're a team. If I say,

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>let's think about how we can get to where we

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>want to be, Let's think about us at the center

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>of this conversation. Let's think about how to protect us. Now,

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying you need to be thinking about how

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to protect me. You should be thinking about how to

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>make me happy. Well, then we're not a team anymore.

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm saying, it's all your responsibility, it's all your accountability,

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's all on you. And by the way, I'm

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>sitting over here feeling hurt, dejected and down. Whereas now

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and I say, is this what we both want? Is

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.919
<v Speaker 1>this the kind of relationship that we both want to have?

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Do we want to create a space where both of

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.439
<v Speaker 1>us can grow? All of a sudden, it's like, yes,

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>we're doing this together. Yes we're a team. Yes we're collaborating.

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think too many people are competing for power

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>rather than collaborating to create power together. And that competition

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>with your partner is the worst place to be because

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>now you're trying to be right, not kind. Now you're

0:35:56.680 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to win, not win together. Now, when you win,

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it means they lose. I always say this to people.

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>If you win an argument, that means your partner lost,

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you both lost. If you win and they lose, you lose.

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>If they win and you lose, you lose.

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 3>You either win.

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Together or lose together because you're together. So us and we,

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>not you and me solves that. And I recommend people

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>right out what they're about to text, what they're about

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>to say to their partner. And if you changed every

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you and me to us and we, it will transform

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the energy of the conversation.

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 3>That's so good.

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>That's so simple and so good. And one other thing

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 2>that you just mentioned that was almost subtlety. It takes

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>out the absolutes of like, you never do this for me,

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 2>because I think that when you're trying to make an

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.399
<v Speaker 2>effort and then someone says you don't ever, it's kind

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 2>of like, well, why am I even bothering? And so

0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 2>if you say we, there was no absolutenesce in.

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>The Wii, Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. It's there's two words

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to take out of every argument. Always and never,

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>because no one always does something and no one never

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>does thing. We always have so much more gray and

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>so much more in between. But we're so tempted to

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>just say you never do anything for me, or you

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 1>always forget to do the dishes, and those statements make

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that person feel that you've invalidated any time that they

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>actually followed through. Chances are they have followed through, but

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>we're invalidating it. Now, what were arguing about. We're arguing

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:29.319
<v Speaker 1>about the mathematical accuracy of how often I've watched the

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>dishes versus when I haven't, which was not the conversation.

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Now everyone's all right, tell me one, tell me, proved

0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>me one. And then they're like, yeah, I did it

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>last Thursday and the Thursday before and the last Friday.

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>And now we're arguing about mathematical accuracy. And I think

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the point is when we're having a disagreement, we're never

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 1>really arguing about the disagreement. We're arguing about affection. We're

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>arguing about power, We're arguing about attention, love, validation. That's

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>what we're arguing about. But now we think we're arguing

0:37:57.400 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>about the dishes. We think we're arguing about the birth day.

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>That's not what we're arguing about. And so the more

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>we can actually focus on what we're actually talking about,

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>which is what we were just talking about. Let's talk

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 1>about the transition. We're not arguing about whether you achieved

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>your dreams and I didn't. We're talking about how does

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>this change now? And that's what we need to win for.

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, God, Okay, So you mentioned earlier about how sometimes

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.319
<v Speaker 2>we can misunderstand or miscommunicate and we think one thing's

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>one thing, but actually it's the other. So the compromise

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>versus the sacrifice in your words.

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Being an abandoned Yeah, amazing.

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I actually have a few more because I was like, okay,

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 2>what are the things that get us trapped in a relationship,

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 2>going back to like the settling thing and why we

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 2>either choose the wrong person or we end up staying

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 2>in the relationship that isn't right. And there are a

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>few things that I think that we get confused. So

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I've written a few down that actually love to talk about.

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 2>So actually, let's start with the love and lust. So

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>how would you look at the difference between love and

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:53.439
<v Speaker 2>luss and how if someone's listening right now, can they

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>decipher which one they're.

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>In the difference between love and lust? Is that last

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>is that excitement an exhilaration of connection. Love is how

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you handle disconnection. If there's only lost, then when there's

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>an argument or a disagreement, you don't know how to

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>get on the same page. That's why we call it

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>makeup sex or break up sex, because you resort to

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:23.320
<v Speaker 1>an activity that's fueled by passion to solve a problem

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that can't be healed by it. Right, if you've had

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>a disconnection, or if you've had a problem, or if

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>there's a challenge and you don't like the way the

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>person behaves with you, then there's no love because that's

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>what you're looking for.

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 3>You're looking for.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Can someone bring love to a place where there isn't

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:43.439
<v Speaker 1>any or where we're lacking it or where we've run

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>out of it or where we've lost it.

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>That's what love is.

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Love is something that exists within both of you, and

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>when you're disagreeing, you're distant. If there's love, you'll become

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:55.919
<v Speaker 1>closer through it. If there isn't love, you push yourselves

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>away through it. So when I meet a new couple,

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I like to ask them, what was the last disagreement

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you have? And do you like the way your partner

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and you came to a conclusion or came to a solution.

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>It's how we deal with the tough stuff that makes

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>all the difference.

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 2>That's so good. What's interesting, I've been one for twenty

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 2>five years and that we've never once had makeup sex.

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking about it.

0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:20.760
<v Speaker 3>That's a good thing. That shows why.

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's almost like actually because once we've like kind

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 2>of come to an agreement, I'm still so raw and

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.359
<v Speaker 2>so I just need to be cuddled. I need sweetness.

0:40:30.400 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Like the last thing I want is like crazy x.

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:32.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 2>So that's fascinating and.

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Never does well.

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>The studies show right that the reason why sex releases

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>chemicals that makes you forget the argument.

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so it's not even like.

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.320
<v Speaker 1>You actually feel better. You just think you feel better,

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and so you actually never came to a solution. And

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that's why it's not the healthiest way to solve a problem,

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>because if you're relying on lust to solve the problem,

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:54.479
<v Speaker 1>then all you're left with is lust.

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not love. That's so true.

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>But yet my ex, who was very toxic, we had

0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:58.919
<v Speaker 2>a lot of makeup sex.

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and makeup sex. Yeah.

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 2>All right, So the difference between comfortable or complacent. Have

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>you settled into a healthy rhythm, or are you stuck

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 2>in an unfulfilling routine.

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I think comfortable is something you feel together and complacent

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>is something one person feels. So if you can both agree,

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I love the way we're living. WE love our life.

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I love the vacations we go on. I love our friends.

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>I love what we're creating. There's a comfort in that,

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's what we're all looking for. We're looking for

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:35.720
<v Speaker 1>someone that we can come home to and cozy upward.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>We're looking for someone who feels like a warm cup

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of coffee. That's comfortable, right. We want that in a partner.

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But if one person can't agree to that, then that

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>person feels the other person's being complacent. Now what happens

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>is people are scared to accept that they're being complacent

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>because it means like they're not showing up enough or

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 1>doing enough.

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a very negative word.

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a very negative word. But the point is you've

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.879
<v Speaker 1>got to listen to your partner. If your partner's genuinely saying, hey,

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're comfortable, I think we're complacent, there's

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>no moments to look forward to anymore. And that's what

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>complacency is I think comfort is comfort is stable excitement, right,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like we feel a sense of there's still like

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.879
<v Speaker 1>things to look forward to. We come back down. There's

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>this beautiful harmonic movement of a wave. There's like a

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>comfort in looking at the ocean. Even though it's constantly moving,

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it's still moving, it's doing his thing. Complacency is almost

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>just like there's no rhythm, there's only routine. We're kind

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:41.240
<v Speaker 1>of both robots performing the same roles, the same tasks,

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 1>the same things. There's no spontaneity, there's no change, there's

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 1>no shift. And I think it really does take one

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 1>person to have the courage to say it. And my

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>hope is that when the other person hears it again,

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you as a team come to a conclusion abut.

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 3>How to get out of it.

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>It's still a together thing to solve, even if it's

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.239
<v Speaker 1>a one person to raise. This is the biggest thing.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>If you want this relationship to work, you've got to

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 1>help your partner, help themselves, help your relationship, and you

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>help them. And I think the challenge we have is

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us feel like we're the only one

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>doing it. And if you feel you're the only one

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>doing it. There's two things you need to do. The

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 1>first thing you need to do is something I call

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a relationship audit because this has helped me so many times.

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>A lot of us think relationships are who makes the money,

0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>who takes care of the house. We look at it

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>through two things, But relationships are physical who's taking care

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:41.720
<v Speaker 1>of the house, the physical surroundings, Financial, who is making

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>the money taking care of the finances. It's mental who's

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 1>setting the mindset of this relationship. It's emotional who's setting

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the nurturing of this relationship? And it's spiritual who's setting

0:43:56.200 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the faith or the spiritual direction of this relationship. Every

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>time I've thought about it this way, I've realized me

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and RADI are even leaders ah and I think that

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>gives me a sense of strength and confidence. If we

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>only look at it through two things, which is what

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>we do, finance and home, you might feel like you

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>do everything. And it's really important on us for broaden

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the view. Now, if you look at it as those

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>five metrics and you're doing four hour of the five,

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that person's complacent.

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 3>It's just there. It's true.

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.760
<v Speaker 1>It's really really it's hard, and especially if you're disatisfied.

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 3>If you're satisfied, it's fine.

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I think we have to zoom out when you're feeling

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that way and really assess it, because too many people

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>will say I do everything. So at the beginning of

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>my relationship, I used to feel I did everything, not

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>to realize that Radi set the mental mood and the

0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>emotional heart of the whole relationship and physically takes care

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>of everything, Like the fridge always has food in it

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.359
<v Speaker 1>and I've never ordered anything in my entire life, and

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>it's always stocked with the best goodies and everything else.

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 1>And spiritually Radi runs the relationship.

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm realizing she's doing four.

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Hour's interesting because in your head though, you were like, well,

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 2>hang on, I'm working, I'm doing this, and it's the doing.

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 1>It's the doing that we put emphasis on. Yeah, but

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>what about the energy, Like Radi is like wakes up

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's doing a little dance in the kitchen. I come,

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of moping and moody, and she's smiling and

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.439
<v Speaker 1>giving me a hug. We don't value those things. Those

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>things are huge, but we don't value them because they

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 1>don't show up on the spreadsheet. Yeah, they don't show

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 1>up in the bank balance, so you don't value those things.

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of us think we overdo.

0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:36.440
<v Speaker 1>But actually, if you looked at it on the actual

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>spectrum of the five things have just said, you'd realize

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>we're actually pretty equal.

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 3>So that's one thing.

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>And the second thing I'd say is that if you

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 1>do that exercise and then you really feel like you

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>are the one doing everything, then it may be time

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to leave. It may be time to say I'm not

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>accepting this anymore. It may be time to say I

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 1>can't keep doing all of this anymore, and I deserve

0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 1>better than this.

0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 3>And that's okay too.

0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm such a data person, and as well that I

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 2>love that you just broke it down out of like fourman,

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like a checklist.

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, make it because we all have a scorecard anyway,

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 1>but we only mark ourselves on the schoolcard emotional as emotional,

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>and you never give the other person a point. So

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>if you watch the dish, right, it's I told you

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>to watch the dishes exactly.

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.919
<v Speaker 3>It's that you're always counting everything you do right.

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:28.200
<v Speaker 1>We count everything we do right, and we count everything

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>our partner does wrong. You will never miss something that

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you got right, and you will never miss something your

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:33.799
<v Speaker 1>partner got wrong.

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 3>But what does that create.

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:39.920
<v Speaker 1>It creates distant disconnection and dissatisfaction. Whereas when you zoom

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 1>out and you start counting every little thing your partner

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>gets right, and you start to notice the things you

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.879
<v Speaker 1>get right and wrong, all of a sudden, you start

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>to recognize we're probably more equal than we believe we are.

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think more people would win from that. I've

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.280
<v Speaker 1>gained so much from that exercise.

0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 3>That's so good.

0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I'm going to definitely take that one.

0:46:59.520 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I've got a few.

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:04.280
<v Speaker 2>It's for you, all right. Difference between intuition or insecurity?

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>How to tell if your guy is warning you or

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 2>if past trauma is crouding your judgment.

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>The difference between intuition and insecurity is insecurity is based

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>on the past and intuition is based on the present.

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't want a bad past relationship to impact your

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:29.839
<v Speaker 1>notes on the relationship you're in today, but you want

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to check it. So if you have an insecurity, you

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.240
<v Speaker 1>should check it. If you have an intuition, you should

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:36.200
<v Speaker 1>check it. And I think the problem is we're trying

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.360
<v Speaker 1>to make decisions based on intuition or insecurity, when actually

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.799
<v Speaker 1>what we should be doing is asking questions. So there's

0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 1>two questions I believe that everyone should ask as early

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>as possible in a relationship. The first is how do

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you show love? That person may say to you, I

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>show love by always showing up on time. I show

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:01.479
<v Speaker 1>love by always picking up the phone. I show love

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>by always responding to a text message. And all of

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you realize that you were just insecure about

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>whether they loved you or not because you were measuring

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 1>whether they loved you based on how your ex loved you,

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 1>rather than asking them how do they show love? Because

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you didn't see them turning up on time is love?

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You saw it as being timely. You didn't see them

0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>picking up the phone as love. You saw that as

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:27.399
<v Speaker 1>being available. You didn't see them as texting back as

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>being love. You saw them as being responsive. But that

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 1>was love through being available responsive, because that's how they

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>see love. And you should tell that person how you

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>see love. Now you take away in securities because now

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to guess whether a text or a

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 1>lack of one is love or not, because the person's

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 1>told me how they show love and The second question

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>is what do you need when you're sad? What do

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you need when you're having a bad day? What would

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.799
<v Speaker 1>you like me to do? Because the truth is we're

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>all guessing, so our intuition failed. Sometimes we're thinking what

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.919
<v Speaker 1>do I need on a bad day, and we're trying

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 1>to give it to that person. And what's really interesting

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:10.879
<v Speaker 1>is we think people love the way we do, and

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 1>when they don't, we feel hurt. Yeah, so we feel, well,

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>if I was stuck, we're having a bad day, I

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>know i'd want to hug. I know i'd want a

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>really nice message. I know i'd want you to turn up.

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>And so we do that to that person and that

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 1>person goes, wait, wait, wait, this is too much. I

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't need this, And we think, oh, well, that person

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't love me, they don't appreciate me. But actually we

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 1>never checked in with them. And so to me, intuition

0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 1>and insecurity are all about checking. And these are my

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 1>two favorite questions.

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 2>That's so good. Okay, let me give a scenario for

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 2>you then, and I want you to know how you

0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 2>navigate it. So let's assume you're on a date and

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.120
<v Speaker 2>you really like them and you're like, oh my God,

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 2>we have this connection. Maybe they're the one and my

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 2>gut is telling me this is the one, Jay, So

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 2>how do you know in that moment that your gut

0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:59.080
<v Speaker 2>is telling you that that person is the right person?

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Or it's the toss of pattern that you've had from

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Childer that says, if someone acts like this, it means love.

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:10.279
<v Speaker 1>You don't know in that moment your gut's lying to you.

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>It's just plain and simple. It's very unrealistic for anyone

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to know in the first month of dating whether someone

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:23.000
<v Speaker 1>is the one or one of the.

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 3>People they'll be with.

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Now, that person may evolve into the one, but you

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>can't truly guarantee you knew it in that moment. You

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:31.439
<v Speaker 1>may say that in hindsight and a lot of people

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 1>will be like and by the way, me and Ridley

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>say that too, I felt like.

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 3>I knew that.

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>By the way, when I met Riley, I knew in

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the first week or the first couple of weeks that

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:39.240
<v Speaker 1>she was the one.

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I would have said that.

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Then Now, when I look back on that statement, I

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:44.680
<v Speaker 1>realized how crazy that was because I didn't even know

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:47.840
<v Speaker 1>what was expected of me, what's been expected of me

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.799
<v Speaker 1>in the last twelve years has made me realize she's

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the one every day.

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 3>I could never have known that on our wedding date.

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, even if your in juition turns

0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>out to be right, that's beautiful, but let's not put

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that out there is advice, That's what I'm trying to

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:03.719
<v Speaker 1>get to, and so I always say to people that

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you will fall in love with three people in your life.

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:09.840
<v Speaker 1>The first is a firework. It lights up the sky.

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:13.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a big bang, but it fades very very quickly,

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:16.319
<v Speaker 1>and we all fall in love with that person. There's

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 1>a second person you'll fall in love with, which is

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the candle. It burns not as bright, it's a bit calmer,

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 1>it burns longer, but you might even put it out

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:30.360
<v Speaker 1>yourself because it gets boring. And then the third person

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 1>is the mirror. And the mirror compassionately holds up to

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you a reflection of yourself, shows you all your flaws,

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>your weaknesses. And the problem is a lot of us

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>can't handle that. We think the mirror is broken because

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to see that, and so we push

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that away. And that's usually the one. The one's usually

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the person who can hold up the mirror. To you

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:55.839
<v Speaker 1>in a compassionate and non judgmental way. So you have

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:58.319
<v Speaker 1>people who hold up the mirror to you, but they'll

0:51:58.320 --> 0:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>do it by going look at who you are, you

0:52:00.120 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 1>see it.

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 3>That's not the one.

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:05.839
<v Speaker 1>You'll have people who hold up the mirror to you,

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's a broken mirror because they're just projecting their

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>broken noss onto you. And that's not the one. The

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.759
<v Speaker 1>one is the person who compassionately, non judgmentally, with love

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and empathetically holds up a mirror to you and allows

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you to hold up a mirror to them. And I

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that's one person that's out there. It's the

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>person that you both do it for. It has to

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.399
<v Speaker 1>be a mutual thing. And so I think we need

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:33.800
<v Speaker 1>to lose this idea of this destined, fated, perfect person,

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:38.840
<v Speaker 1>fully formed, fully created that exists, and go who's willing

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to work for me? And who am I willing to

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>work for? Who's willing to learn with me? And who

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 1>am I willing to learn for? Who's willing to grow

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:47.839
<v Speaker 1>for me? And who am I willing to grow for?

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:50.120
<v Speaker 1>And you won't know that in the first month. You

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 1>have no idea in the first month whether someone's willing

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:55.839
<v Speaker 1>to grow for you, whether someone's willing to learn for you,

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 1>whether someone's willing to change for you. Go through the challenges,

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:02.280
<v Speaker 1>grow through the challenges, make mistakes, see how you respond

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and live through that. And so you know someone loves

0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you not when you have a great first date, but

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:11.239
<v Speaker 1>when you have a great first fight. Like you know

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 1>someone loves you not when they surprise you on your birthday,

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:19.280
<v Speaker 1>but when they can deal with you having a surprising

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.359
<v Speaker 1>or challenging emotion. You know someone loves you not when

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you have an amazing vacation together, but when you figured

0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>out how to be okay when you didn't have one,

0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Like that's how you learned that you loved each other.

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 1>When I look at me and Raddi, I look at

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the fact that when we moved country, when I lost

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 1>my jobs, when I was transitioning, like when we're figuring

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff out, that's what proves to me that she's the one,

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Not the amazing wedding we had and not the amazing

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 1>early dates we had, like they don't now prove to

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 1>me that we love each other. So I don't think

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:54.359
<v Speaker 1>you get to see that for a long time. And

0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:57.520
<v Speaker 1>it is that investment and there was a study that

0:53:57.560 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I read that showed that to make someone an acquaintance,

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a casual acquaintance in your life, it takes forty hours.

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 1>To consider someone a friend in your life, you have

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.319
<v Speaker 1>to spend one hundred hours, and to consider someone a

0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>good friend in your life, you have to spend two

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:17.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred hours. If you haven't spent two hundred hours together yet,

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:20.799
<v Speaker 1>you really don't know this person. And I think that's

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 1>why as adults it's so hard to find adult friends,

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 1>and why it's so hard to date, because it's very

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:29.840
<v Speaker 1>unlikely that as an adult, you have two hundred hours

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to get to know someone. But that's true, and I

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 1>feel that resonates when I think about anyone I feel

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 1>knows me deeply, and that I know deeply spent two

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:39.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred hours with them in.

0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Your first month of dating. What do you know about

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 3>this person?

0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.160
<v Speaker 1>You don't know about their relationship with their parents, You

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know about their relationship with their siblings, you don't

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>know about their relationship with their boss.

0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 3>You don't know about their relationship with you.

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.439
<v Speaker 1>In any other circumstance apart from on this interview like date,

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you actually know very little about this person, And so

0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:58.800
<v Speaker 1>until you actually live life and experience different facets of

0:54:58.840 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 1>their life, not start building a life with someone that

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>we don't know anything about their life.

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:06.120
<v Speaker 2>That's so true. And I don't know if you remember this,

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:08.520
<v Speaker 2>but there was something that you taught me that stuck

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>with me to this day. So it was about maybe

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 2>two years ago. I can't remember what trip we were

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:14.839
<v Speaker 2>on together, for everyone at home, we've been on many

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 2>trips together. And someone had really hurt me emotionally and

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 2>had broken my trust. And I remember turning to you

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, Jay, I didn't see it coming.

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I trusted them and they backstabbed me.

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:30.360
<v Speaker 2>And I remember you looking at me and you're like, okay,

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 2>so did you have them earn your trust? And my

0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.560
<v Speaker 2>answer was no. And I remember you saying that this

0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 2>was years ago, and still to this day, whenever I

0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:40.680
<v Speaker 2>go to, oh my god, I trust them, the very

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 2>next thing is you and my head saying, hanging on,

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 2>but have they earned it? And so I think then

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:47.680
<v Speaker 2>in those moments, in that first month of dating, we

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.720
<v Speaker 2>go off our emotions and the chemicals in our body,

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 2>but we're made to believe it's love or trust or

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:54.319
<v Speaker 2>things like that.

0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And I'm so glad you remember that, and it resonated

0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 1>with you, like I'm not saying you're sitting there either

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>judging them as well and going, oh, wait a minute,

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 1>are they trustworthy?

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:03.279
<v Speaker 3>Like it's it's not either or.

0:56:03.560 --> 0:56:05.279
<v Speaker 1>And then the reason I say that is because I

0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:08.600
<v Speaker 1>think we give away trust too easily. If you've not

0:56:08.760 --> 0:56:13.240
<v Speaker 1>seen someone in multiple moods, and when you're in multiple moods,

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.120
<v Speaker 1>how can you trust them Because you don't know how

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 1>they're going to respond to you being a certain way,

0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 1>So you can't trust them in that specific experience. And

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 1>so your trust is very broad and overarching. And I

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>think at one point we just have to stop breaking

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>our own heart because we don't fall in love with

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the person. We fall in love with who we expect

0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 1>them to be. We don't fall in love with the

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>person that they are. We fall in love with the

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 1>potential that we see for them. We don't fall in

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:51.399
<v Speaker 1>love with the act that they show us. We fall

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.080
<v Speaker 1>in love with the dreams that we hope they're going

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to help us build. And so our constant reality is

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.959
<v Speaker 1>being lived in our head. And now you're not living

0:56:59.960 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>in reality, you're living in your mind. And then that

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:05.280
<v Speaker 1>person doesn't live up to the picture in your mind.

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 1>They're living in the real world, and now they hurt you.

0:57:08.040 --> 0:57:11.719
<v Speaker 1>And so we break our own hearts because we don't

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:15.359
<v Speaker 1>allow that person to earn our trust. We break our

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>own hearts because we don't let them prove themselves in

0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:24.120
<v Speaker 1>different experiences and scenarios. And we break our own heart

0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 1>because we imagined who they were before they showed us

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:32.200
<v Speaker 1>they were. And so we're constantly we're just constantly breaking

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 1>our own hearts because you just don't know how someone's

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 1>going to do something until you see them do it.

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:39.720
<v Speaker 2>So where's that line between the values that someone has

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:43.640
<v Speaker 2>versus what they say? Because actually, let's go back to relationships. Yeah,

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 2>and how you cannot fix something Jay Shelley quote. We

0:57:47.800 --> 0:57:49.480
<v Speaker 2>think we have to fix people, but we have to

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 2>love them while they fix themselves. So how often do

0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:55.520
<v Speaker 2>we try to Why is that detrimental? And why do

0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 2>we keep doing it? Why do we keep trying to

0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 2>fix people?

0:57:58.440 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I think the first thing you have to understand it

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 1>is you can't fix anyone, right. You can't fix someone else,

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 1>but you can break yourself in the process. You can't

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>fix someone else, but you can waste a lot of

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:15.840
<v Speaker 1>years believing that you can and you can't fix anyone,

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 1>but you can convince yourself that it's your responsibility. So

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I think those are the three things we do. We

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 1>convince ourselves it's our responsibility. We convince ourselves it's only

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a matter of time. And we convince ourselves I'm ready

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to do anything it takes to fix them. Because guess what,

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we believe if we fight hard enough, I can make

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the wrong person the right person. Why do we do it?

0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Number one evalidates us. It gives our life meaning and value.

0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>We have a role to play, and we believe we

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>have a target to hit. If we can successfully make

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 1>this person fixed, we did something amazing. It's actually about us.

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:54.200
<v Speaker 1>The second reason is we don't want to be with

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 1>a loser. By what we think is a loser, We

0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:58.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be with someone because that now brings

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:01.560
<v Speaker 1>down our value. We now feel, well, if I'm with

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>someone who doesn't sort themselves out, then everyone else is

0:59:04.960 --> 0:59:07.120
<v Speaker 1>going to think that I have no value. So now

0:59:07.160 --> 0:59:09.680
<v Speaker 1>again thinking about our value again, we're actually not thinking

0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:13.120
<v Speaker 1>about them. And third, if we're truly compassionate and altruistic

0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and really caring about them, we genuinely.

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 3>See their potential.

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 1>You see their potential and you're thinking they could just

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 1>be amazing, they could be phenomenal, And maybe there is

0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a part of you that does it from a deep

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 1>sense of care because you can see how amazing they are.

0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:34.040
<v Speaker 1>But the reason you can't fix them is because maybe

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that's not what they want to fix. Maybe that's not

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>how they see they're broken. Maybe that's not the part

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 1>of themselves they want to mend. The potential you see

0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.880
<v Speaker 1>isn't the potential they see. They maybe don't even want

0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 1>that life. I remember saying that to Radley for so long,

0:59:48.800 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 1>where it was like I didn't want her to mirror

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 1>her life off of anything I wanted to do. I

0:59:54.040 --> 0:59:56.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, I want you to do exactly what you

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.800
<v Speaker 1>want to do. And Radley loved learning. So she did

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 1>courses and she did she did yoga, teacher training. She

1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:03.919
<v Speaker 1>was doing all this education because she was so happy

1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and excited about it. She did a book because she

1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:08.200
<v Speaker 1>was excited about it. She launched the podcast because she

1:00:08.280 --> 1:00:10.919
<v Speaker 1>was excited about learning. And I've had so many people

1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:12.840
<v Speaker 1>say to me like I wish he was more ambitious,

1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, well, then go and find someone more ambitious,

1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:18.720
<v Speaker 1>because chances are he doesn't want to be ambitious. He's

1:00:18.760 --> 1:00:20.960
<v Speaker 1>showing you every day that he doesn't want to be ambitious.

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<v Speaker 1>And you think, because you're ambitious, you can make him ambitious.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you can't.

1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:26.800
<v Speaker 1>You can make him try harder for a month, but

1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:28.640
<v Speaker 1>he's going to go back to being that same person,

1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably just feels worse about it.

1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now carrying the guilt and now he's insecure, wondering

1:00:35.360 --> 1:00:37.680
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to leave him, because he actually thinks

1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that you might because you're not satisfied with him. Every

1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 1>time he meets an ambitious man, he's now judging himself

1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>and measuring himself up against that person.

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<v Speaker 3>But he doesn't want to be that. He has different values.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, going back to a point we made earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>you getting someone to value what you value isn't love.

1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:59.320
<v Speaker 1>If I convince you to value what I value, that

1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>is in love. Love is I love what you value

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<v Speaker 1>because it makes you who you are. I've always said

1:01:05.280 --> 1:01:09.160
<v Speaker 1>that Radi's number one value in life is family. It's

1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:11.280
<v Speaker 1>always a number one value. My number one value in

1:01:11.320 --> 1:01:15.440
<v Speaker 1>life is purpose. I will choose purpose over a family event.

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<v Speaker 1>Radi will choose family over a purpose event for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither's right or wrong, It's just who we are. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love that for her. If she would choose to

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<v Speaker 1>go and spend time with her family over an event

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to go to, I would love that

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<v Speaker 1>for her. Why it makes her the person I love.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason she's so adorable and lovable and everything is

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<v Speaker 1>because of her value. And why would she be happy

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<v Speaker 1>for me to choose purpose over the family event? Because

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<v Speaker 1>she knows that's what makes me lovable. The man that

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<v Speaker 1>she loves, the man that she admires, the man that

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<v Speaker 1>she respects, is that man who makes that choice. So

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to change your partner's values are going to

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<v Speaker 1>make them less of the person you love and more

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<v Speaker 1>of the person you don't love. You're actually going to

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<v Speaker 1>take away from from them their spark and their joy

1:02:04.160 --> 1:02:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and their heart and their value and everything. And you're

1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:10.680
<v Speaker 1>actually going to become their kryptonite and shrink them because

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking away where they valued.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what if you're with somebody, So you've got

1:02:15.320 --> 1:02:18.760
<v Speaker 2>with Rady, you know she values family that you see

1:02:18.800 --> 1:02:21.960
<v Speaker 2>it's beautiful. You see how that shows up what sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>happens Over time, though, is their value starts to change

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<v Speaker 2>and then now no longer that person that got the

1:02:27.680 --> 1:02:30.600
<v Speaker 2>joy from let's say the family. In those moments, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we try to fix that person, to come back

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<v Speaker 2>to the person that we first met, that we first

1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:37.360
<v Speaker 2>fell in love with, and going back to the growth

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<v Speaker 2>thing where it's like you can be on different paths.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I think someone in a relationship dynamic one partner

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<v Speaker 2>is like, hang on a minute, I fell in love

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<v Speaker 2>with this person. This is the person I may be married.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the person that I was with. And now

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<v Speaker 2>over time you've changed. How did you start to navigate

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<v Speaker 2>that without the person feeling bad about that change? So,

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<v Speaker 2>RADI met you, you just come out of monk hold.

1:03:00.480 --> 1:03:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what you would call it. Mon could

1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:05.480
<v Speaker 2>So you just come out of monk hood and you're coaching,

1:03:05.600 --> 1:03:08.800
<v Speaker 2>you're teaching. She knows who you are, you're all spiritual.

1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Let's say ten years later, you're just an ask you

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<v Speaker 2>don't care about work, you don't really care about people,

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<v Speaker 2>and now she's like, hang on a minute, You're not

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<v Speaker 2>the person I fell in love with.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, There's three things. The first is.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to check whether that person wants to change

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<v Speaker 1>and how they want to change and who they want

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<v Speaker 1>to be, and that will take time because it will

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<v Speaker 1>take time for them to open up and admit because,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say they want to be that person they were before,

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<v Speaker 1>that's hard for them to admit because it feels really

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<v Speaker 1>far for them and they feel it's quite impossible. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, they may say, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. In the beginning, they may say no,

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<v Speaker 1>I love who I am. In the beginning, they may

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<v Speaker 1>say no, I'm happy with how life's going. But those

1:03:55.760 --> 1:03:59.280
<v Speaker 1>are just defense mechanisms to not really go there because

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<v Speaker 1>they find it an unimaginable task to become that person again.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to be patient and check, and that

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<v Speaker 1>will take time. The second thing, after checking and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>if they've been ready for change if they are, is

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<v Speaker 1>are you open to being the person that is now

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<v Speaker 1>required of you while they change? Are you willing to

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<v Speaker 1>be patient? Are you willing to shift? Are you willing

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<v Speaker 1>to adjust in order to be patient? Now that you

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<v Speaker 1>know how they're changing and where they're growing and going,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about you. It's not about them. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>are you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay with that?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the third is are you willing to fall

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<v Speaker 1>in love with them again? Are you willing to fall

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<v Speaker 1>in love with the same person again now that they're

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<v Speaker 1>a different person, or are you not?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's all about you.

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<v Speaker 1>We think it's about them. I'll give you a really

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<v Speaker 1>practical example. I was working with someone years ago now

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<v Speaker 1>and they had discovered that their partner was addicted to

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<v Speaker 1>porn and it was really hurtful to them because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be in a partnership where the other

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<v Speaker 1>person had this addiction. So their first reaction was, this

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<v Speaker 1>has to end. I can't be with this person. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were the one. I can't believe it. When

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<v Speaker 1>they sat themselves down and finally got the partner to

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<v Speaker 1>open up, who, by the way, was a shamed, guilty

1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:30.840
<v Speaker 1>dealing with all of their stress around this themselves, the

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<v Speaker 1>partner finally said, I don't want to have this addiction either.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to work on it. So now it

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<v Speaker 1>moved to question number two after the checking and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>the question was and I asked them this question, are

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<v Speaker 1>you willing to be patient? Are you willing to realize

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<v Speaker 1>that your partner will have days where they will fall

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<v Speaker 1>back into their addiction? Are you willing to tolerate the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you may feel betrayed. Are you willing to

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<v Speaker 1>tolerate the memories you will have of the pictures they

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<v Speaker 1>have on their phone, because none of that's going away.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not about whether you can forgive them, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about whether you can tolerate your memories, your pain, and

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<v Speaker 1>your stress that keeps coming back every time you look

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<v Speaker 1>at them. Are you willing to change and adjust because

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<v Speaker 1>now you know where they want to go? And are

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<v Speaker 1>you willing to go at their timeline not yours? It's

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<v Speaker 1>your question. That person at that time said yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to wait. I believe in them, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to wait. And then the third step is where they're

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<v Speaker 1>willing to fall in love with the same person who's

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<v Speaker 1>now a different person. That couple's been together for as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I've known them. Now, Wow, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a long process. It wasn't easy. If someone's an adict,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to take a long time. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the person who was doing the waiting, they probably lost

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<v Speaker 1>years of their life while they were supporting that person

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But they wanted to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They opted in for that life and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>someone should be shamed or guilted for staying or leaving

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<v Speaker 1>based on where they are in their life. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to live based on your values, and so yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>may end up realizing that ten years down the line

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<v Speaker 1>you're married to someone who has a different set of values.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's paint the opposite picture. They like where their

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<v Speaker 1>life's going. They don't want to change, They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to who they were. Sadly, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to ask yourself the same question two and three. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I want to change with this change? Do I even

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<v Speaker 1>have to change? Or actually, can I just be the same?

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<v Speaker 1>And can I fall in love with this person again

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<v Speaker 1>now that they're a different person, And if you can't, sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>that is how things end. But you shouldn't force yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to keep looking for the person they once were in

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<v Speaker 1>the person they are today, because you're going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>your whole life searching for someone who's disappeared or doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>exist anymore, and you're going to keep hoping and waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for that person to come back. And people waste their

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<v Speaker 1>whole life doing that. When that person left a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>There's such a great breakdown. And I love how you think, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really love how you think because every time I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to answer it like this, you never do.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the idea of like asking yourself those questions is

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<v Speaker 2>so important, like one thousand percent because I'm on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, I think, but I'm look. I started

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<v Speaker 2>Women of Impact Channel so that women never feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they give their power away again? And where are the

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<v Speaker 2>moments where we end up losing that control or losing

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<v Speaker 2>our power and we never find it again. We spend

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of our life feeling weak, unable to get

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<v Speaker 2>back up metaphorically. And so I love the personal ownership.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it because then no one can impact except

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<v Speaker 2>for me. And so even the way you broke it down,

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<v Speaker 2>I think for me, I would have given my power

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<v Speaker 2>away to that person. How long are you going to take?

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<v Speaker 2>When are you going to do it? By I thought

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<v Speaker 2>you said you were going to do this, but you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just about to say that all of those

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<v Speaker 1>questions are unanswerable. All of those questions have no answer.

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<v Speaker 1>If I asked you the question to think about, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how long do you think it's going to take for

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<v Speaker 1>you to figure out this addiction. That person doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a clue. It's your timeline. And when you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to make it about your timeline, you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>it about the person. What you're doing is you're actually

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<v Speaker 1>putting pressure on them to change next week. I always

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<v Speaker 1>say to someone, I'm like, it's going to take someone

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<v Speaker 1>like seven years to change. Like, if you really look

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<v Speaker 1>at human change, it takes three to seven years for

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<v Speaker 1>someone to actually change. So you're committing to a long

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<v Speaker 1>period of time if you're going to commit to change,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's if someone's actually doing the work, putting in

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<v Speaker 1>the time, putting in the energy. Now, what ends up

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<v Speaker 1>happening is people usually put in the energy but then

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<v Speaker 1>fall back, and when you're waiting for them to change,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, wait a minute, last month, you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>everything right, what's going on right now? And now what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing is creating stress for yourself. And then if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not willing to wait three to ten years, chances

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not going to happen in three months, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on what the change is. But I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us want things to happen in months that take years.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's an unanswerable question because no one knows, and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, that person will always flip flop, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>Change is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Change isn't linear, it isn't in one direction. It's multi

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<v Speaker 1>direc and multifaceted and up and down. And so if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to tolerate that, if you don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>ready to do that, you're well within your rights to

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<v Speaker 1>say I can't do this. And I think it's so

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<v Speaker 1>hard when we live our lives based on someone else's timeline.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll always be chasing it or pressurizing it or pushing it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a good technique in thinking about change as well.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that Tom and I do is if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to change something, so I used to say

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<v Speaker 2>to him, like you always or you never, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was very.

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<v Speaker 2>Dramatic like that, and I realized it. I made a

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<v Speaker 2>very conscious effort to stop. But when you've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>it in a relationship for fifteen twenty years, it's so natural.

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<v Speaker 2>So I start changing my behavior. And it was like

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<v Speaker 2>something like three or four months. I hadn't said it.

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<v Speaker 2>I caught myself every time, and then I go and

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<v Speaker 2>accidentally drop it, and he's like, here you go. You

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<v Speaker 2>go and do Absolutely. I'm like, you're right, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. I haven't been doing it for four months,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just messed up and he's like, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean you haven't been doing it for four months?

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<v Speaker 2>And so I realized, and we use this language with

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<v Speaker 2>each other's like, I understand that your mental map of

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<v Speaker 2>me hasn't quite updated yet, and so it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>take time for his mental map of me to update.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a way of saying you may not

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<v Speaker 2>have noticed, but I understand why, Yes, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's also on the other side, we blame that. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe ever noticed you said that you wanted me

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<v Speaker 2>to do the dishes. I've been doing the bloody dishes

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<v Speaker 2>for two weeks and you haven't even noticed. Now we

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<v Speaker 2>get annoyed and we just give up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely is so right, And it's all about your

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<v Speaker 1>level of tolerance and patience, and you being really clear

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<v Speaker 1>about your timelines helps them be clear about theirs. If

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<v Speaker 1>you say, hey, I'm willing to give this six months,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to give this twelve months. Let me put

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<v Speaker 1>a tounline on it for me, that's how much I'm

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<v Speaker 1>willing to be in this uncertainty to figure this out

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<v Speaker 1>with you, however you want me to help you, however

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<v Speaker 1>you want to open up about it. But at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to make a decision for my future. And

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<v Speaker 1>now you're not putting pressure on them, saying you have

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<v Speaker 1>to solved your problem. You're saying that how much time

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving myself? And I think that's what we're looking for,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're looking for it from them, and that person's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to give you any clarity.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think a couple can recover from infidelity?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes and no. So two things.

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<v Speaker 1>The first is your tolerance of the memories, betrayal and pain.

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<v Speaker 1>The question isn't can you recover? The question is are

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<v Speaker 1>you okay with remembering? The question isn't can you recover?

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<v Speaker 1>The question is can you make sure not to remind them?

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<v Speaker 1>The question isn't can you not recover? The question is

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<v Speaker 1>how do I stop myself from making that our reality?

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<v Speaker 1>You can always recover if you make those choices. And

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<v Speaker 1>again it comes back down to the person who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the cheating or didn't do the mistake, because it's

1:13:05.760 --> 1:13:08.479
<v Speaker 1>you who actually have to live with it. And the

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<v Speaker 1>same is true for that person. Can they live in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship where they always feel a sense of shame?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they willing to rise even with the sense of guilt?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they willing to try and change even though they

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<v Speaker 1>carry that pain because they have a pain as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's such a together but independent thing because

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<v Speaker 1>you're both having to tolerate and be patient about the

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<v Speaker 1>same stuff, but on different ends of the spectrum. One

1:13:38.920 --> 1:13:42.559
<v Speaker 1>person's feeling shame and guilt and the other person's feeling

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<v Speaker 1>pain and stress and a sense of worthlessness potentially for

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<v Speaker 1>someone if it's in that deep and it's all about

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<v Speaker 1>how long we can tolerate those things for and move on.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not easy for both and especially not for

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<v Speaker 1>them person who actually was on the receiving end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what's required of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And where do you think people go wrong? Because there's

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<v Speaker 2>two types of people. The person that leaves immediately get that,

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<v Speaker 2>and the person that stays in or just like keeps

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<v Speaker 2>forgiving them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there's mistakes on both sides. So the

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<v Speaker 1>mistake on the person who is on the receiving end

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<v Speaker 1>is you now need to do more to make me

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<v Speaker 1>feel more secure. But I'm not going to do the

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<v Speaker 1>work of trying to be more tolerant and patience with

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<v Speaker 1>what I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to make sure that you're always showing

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<v Speaker 2>me love, always showing me with affections, that I never

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<v Speaker 2>have to deal with the emotion of the hurt that

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<v Speaker 2>you've caused.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, But that person could do all of that, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't process it, you still will feel that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not saying it's your fault. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that's the reality. If you wanted to recover it isn't

1:14:48.640 --> 1:14:50.800
<v Speaker 1>your fault. This is not your fault. Like, we have

1:14:50.840 --> 1:14:52.719
<v Speaker 1>to just be really clear about it. It's not your fault.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't it shouldn't have got there. But that person

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<v Speaker 1>could do everything right from now on, and this relationship

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<v Speaker 1>could still go wrong because you in process what you

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<v Speaker 1>had to process.

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<v Speaker 3>So on your part, that's the mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other person's part, of the mistake happens is

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<v Speaker 1>either they're overcompensating in really inauthentic ways or they feel

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<v Speaker 1>so guilt and shamed by it that they now bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up in every argument and go, oh, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>always going to play that card. Oh, we don't play

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<v Speaker 1>that card, like oh no, no, you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>use that card this time. And now they start building

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<v Speaker 1>rules about when and where it's used, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, I'm the one who is on the

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<v Speaker 1>receiving end of that. I get to decide where when

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about it. And so you haven't come to

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<v Speaker 1>an agreement together about the vocabulary, the language, the connection

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<v Speaker 1>of how is this discussed? Where does it land? At

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<v Speaker 1>what point are we complete through the healing process? At

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<v Speaker 1>what point am I comfortable to not talk about it again?

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<v Speaker 1>At what point am I going to bring it up?

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't rush me on that. That's the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be happening, not the conversation of have

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<v Speaker 1>you forgiven me yet?

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<v Speaker 3>That's not the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>The conversation is we may have to let this heal

1:15:58.360 --> 1:16:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and talk about this for twelve months, whereas it's not like, Okay,

1:16:00.960 --> 1:16:01.479
<v Speaker 1>have you forgiven me?

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a week? Have you forgiven me it's been

1:16:02.960 --> 1:16:05.320
<v Speaker 3>a year? Have you forgive no? No, no? What do

1:16:05.360 --> 1:16:07.760
<v Speaker 3>we actually need to talk about. Let's let's focus on.

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<v Speaker 1>That, not the end point. We're all focused on the end,

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<v Speaker 1>like when will you forgive me? I don't know. When

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<v Speaker 1>will you forget about it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's not talk about deadlines. Let's talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship looks like. What the vocabulary around this conversation is,

1:16:22.640 --> 1:16:24.960
<v Speaker 1>When should we bring it up, how should we raise it?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to do therapy together? That's the conversations

1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:29.640
<v Speaker 1>we want to be having if we both want this

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<v Speaker 1>to work, and that's the critical starting point. Do we

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<v Speaker 1>both want this to work? I think sometimes the person

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<v Speaker 1>who's forgiving thinks, I'm gonna forgive you, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to work out. Ah, you made a decision on your own,

1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:42.559
<v Speaker 1>but that person didn't have to do anything. You just said, Oh,

1:16:42.560 --> 1:16:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I forgive you. Let's let's just move on. It's okay.

1:16:44.880 --> 1:16:47.120
<v Speaker 1>But that person didn't get to take part in that decision.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even know if they want to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even know if they want forgiveness or what

1:16:51.680 --> 1:16:54.519
<v Speaker 1>that forgiveness looks like to them. So now you could

1:16:54.560 --> 1:16:56.439
<v Speaker 1>be forgiving someone who's happy to continue to make that

1:16:56.600 --> 1:17:00.080
<v Speaker 1>mistake because you never got their buy in on that decision.

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<v Speaker 3>You just made. So you made it easier because you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I solved it. It's fit.

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<v Speaker 1>I've forgiven it, let's move on, But you haven't because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know where they stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Most times, I assume they're going to fake it or

1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:12.679
<v Speaker 2>say no, no, no, I'm never going to do it again,

1:17:12.760 --> 1:17:15.880
<v Speaker 2>and maybe in that moment they really believe it. But

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<v Speaker 2>the deep work that you're really kind of breaking down,

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<v Speaker 2>I think really brings everything to the surface. So there's

1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:24.840
<v Speaker 2>nowhere to hide and there's no miscommunication. And I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to I love that you're always saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like the personal ownership part of it, because you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>control that they cheated on you, right, that's just freaking heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 2>But to be able to control how you navigate it

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards instead of waiting for them to show you, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of waiting for them to say they're sorry. So many times,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that it's so important.

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<v Speaker 3>You control it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the power, like, don't don't live in a

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<v Speaker 1>world where you're giving them power again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, So this whole talk is really about building

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<v Speaker 2>yourself worth, putting the validation on yourself, not expecting it

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<v Speaker 2>for others. What are like five daily habits that you

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<v Speaker 2>actually suggest that somebody does in order to build this

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<v Speaker 2>self worth and make sure that they never sell in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship that isn't right for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The first habit for self worth, i'd say, is take

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily or weekly challenge. Take on a challenge

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<v Speaker 1>that you set yourself. That you set the challenge, the limit,

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<v Speaker 1>the time limit, how hard it is, the difficulty level,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's learning a new language, whether it's a new workout,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a new sport, and your self worth will

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<v Speaker 1>grow every time you accomplish a new level. Your Self

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<v Speaker 1>worth grows when you do hard things, when you do

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable things, when you do difficult things on your own

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<v Speaker 1>and you see that you can do it right. When

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<v Speaker 1>you see yourself lifting that much more in the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>when you see yourself be feeling that much stronger, all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, your self worth grows because you get

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<v Speaker 1>belief that I can do this right, this is possible

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Another way you grow self worth is undoing

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<v Speaker 1>and unwiring the trauma and the patterns that hold you

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<v Speaker 1>back from the past. Now, what is a daily habit?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you do that? As a daily habit.

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<v Speaker 1>What you want to do is find one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you repeat that your parents did that you don't love.

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<v Speaker 1>Just find one thing and what you want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>is you want to be conscious of that one trigger

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<v Speaker 1>and how it shows up in your life every day.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not guilting yourself, you're not judging yourself. You're becoming

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<v Speaker 1>aware of it so you can spot it and transform it.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I'll give you an example. I found

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of my early caregivers overloved me, but

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<v Speaker 1>then guilted me for not overloving them back. So they

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<v Speaker 1>gave me lots of love, but then if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>give them back at the same level of love, they'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't love me. And I found myself doing that

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<v Speaker 1>to RADI. I found myself doing that to my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I found myself doing that to people in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd overlove them and then guilt them for not loving me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I found one thing, and I realized that guilting

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<v Speaker 1>my wife didn't make her love me more and pushed

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<v Speaker 1>her away. Guilting my wife made her feel that I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't love her because I would treat her that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And all I did for one year was I was

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<v Speaker 1>aware of that every day, and every time I thought

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<v Speaker 1>about guilting her, I would remind myself of how guilt

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make me love.

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<v Speaker 3>That person more.

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<v Speaker 1>It pushed me away, and so that technique that I'd

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<v Speaker 1>subconsciously picked up was actually breaking what I wanted. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't actually getting me where I wanted. So become aware

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<v Speaker 1>of just one pattern, get into the details of it

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<v Speaker 1>like that. The third habit for self worth, i'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>is ask people that you love and trust what you're

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<v Speaker 1>really good at and what they noticed in you that

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<v Speaker 1>they appreciate, because you'll find that often they'll say things

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<v Speaker 1>that you've never even thought of. Ask them, what do

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<v Speaker 1>I do really really well? What skill do I have?

1:20:57.120 --> 1:20:58.320
<v Speaker 1>What do you appreciate you about me? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>see about me? And these are people you love and trust,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not an uncomfortable conversation to have. Just be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing a self worth exercise. I'm trying to learn

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<v Speaker 1>more about myself. And one of the things Jane Lisa

1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:10.559
<v Speaker 1>told me to do was to ask people that I

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<v Speaker 1>love and trust what skills I have, what qualities I have,

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<v Speaker 1>what they really.

1:21:13.840 --> 1:21:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Admire about me? What I'm good at right, what I appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth step with the people that you're really close to

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with asking what do I need to work

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<v Speaker 1>on and work on that that will build self worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Self worth isn't just about pumping yourself up. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>noticing what's letting people down and building it and growing

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<v Speaker 1>it and working on that. Not to become a people

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<v Speaker 1>pleaser or to make it up to them to say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I've changed now, but to say, oh, I've identified that

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<v Speaker 1>I can work on that. I'm confident working on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Self worth is not being confident about what you're great at.

1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:49.200
<v Speaker 1>It's being confident enough to accept that there are things

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<v Speaker 1>you're bad at and working on them. That's what self

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<v Speaker 1>worth is. I think we've painted self worth to be

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<v Speaker 1>all about the light, the positive, the good. Self worth

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<v Speaker 1>is being able to move in the shadows, to go

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<v Speaker 1>into the cave of your darkness, the negativity, the bad,

1:22:06.520 --> 1:22:09.559
<v Speaker 1>and feel comfortable in that and reconcile the two. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what self worth's about. And the fifth and final one,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say is program your thoughts when you wake up

1:22:20.760 --> 1:22:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and when you go to bed. There's something that I

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<v Speaker 1>learned from a guest of mine called Raoul Johndiel, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's a surgeon and a dreams expert, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this idea of something called sleep entry and

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<v Speaker 1>sleep exit, and so sleep entry is this idea of

1:22:40.520 --> 1:22:43.479
<v Speaker 1>when you're just about to fall asleep, and sleep exit

1:22:43.640 --> 1:22:46.400
<v Speaker 1>is almost when you're just about to wake up. And

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<v Speaker 1>those moments are the moments where you can remember your dreams,

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<v Speaker 1>you can program your subconscious thoughts.

1:22:52.200 --> 1:22:52.720
<v Speaker 3>You're in that.

1:22:52.800 --> 1:22:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Kind of mid state if you're not fully awaken, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not fully asleep.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a really interesting space to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would encourage everyone to hold and program the

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<v Speaker 1>thought that they want to have in those moments. So,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, you set an alarm the

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<v Speaker 1>night before you wake up so that you can wake

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<v Speaker 1>up in the morning. You don't set an alarm the

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<v Speaker 1>minute you wake up. It doesn't make sense, you would

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<v Speaker 1>never do that. So you have to code and program

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<v Speaker 1>the thought you wake up with the night before.

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<v Speaker 2>So small.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I'm going to sleep, what is the thought

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<v Speaker 1>I want to wake up with? I am energized, healthy, rested, rejuvenated,

1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I am whatever it is. Program that thought the night before,

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<v Speaker 1>wake up with that thought, and again choose that thought.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are sixty to eighty thousand thoughts we have

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<v Speaker 1>per day. Study show we have eighty percent negative, eighty

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<v Speaker 1>percent repetitive thoughts so most of us are saying the

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<v Speaker 1>same things to ourselves again and again. We wake up

1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:50.360
<v Speaker 1>in the morning, I look tired, wake up in the morning.

1:23:50.479 --> 1:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Or there's a spot on my face. Wake up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. I've put on way wake up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, whatever it is, we're just saying negative things

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<v Speaker 1>to ourselves. And guess what, you said the same things

1:23:58.479 --> 1:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>to yourself every day for years. That's what leads to burnout.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take ownership of that thought and every day plant

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<v Speaker 1>the seed of the thought that you want to wake

1:24:07.360 --> 1:24:09.160
<v Speaker 1>up with and that you want to sleep with, whatever

1:24:09.200 --> 1:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it may be, whatever you're manifesting, whatever you're growing in

1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:15.640
<v Speaker 1>your life. Because you already say the same things to

1:24:15.680 --> 1:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>yourself every day, So why not say things to yourself

1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:19.559
<v Speaker 1>that you actually want to say.

1:24:19.880 --> 1:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>That's so good programming. How you want to wake up?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you make sure that as you're falling asleep,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not falling asleep with a negative thought? Because there's

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<v Speaker 2>actually one of the interviews that I saw you I

1:24:29.200 --> 1:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>can't remember, it might have been with you and Rady

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<v Speaker 2>where you said that when most of us are so

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<v Speaker 2>busy all day that we don't give our brains to

1:24:37.760 --> 1:24:40.160
<v Speaker 2>rest we go, go, go, and the only time we

1:24:40.200 --> 1:24:42.120
<v Speaker 2>have a moment of rest is right before we go

1:24:42.160 --> 1:24:44.320
<v Speaker 2>to bed, which is why all the negative thoughts come

1:24:44.479 --> 1:24:47.800
<v Speaker 2>flooding to us right when we close our eyes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so what do you do to make sure the negative

1:24:51.880 --> 1:24:54.120
<v Speaker 2>flooding doesn't come right before you go to bed?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, write down all of the negative thoughts

1:24:58.000 --> 1:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and everything that's going on and everything you're thinking about

1:25:00.040 --> 1:25:02.920
<v Speaker 1>in a book, a journal outside of your bedroom. Don't

1:25:02.920 --> 1:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>do it in bed. A lot of people sit in

1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>bed and start writing. Well, now the energy of your

1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:09.639
<v Speaker 1>bed is heavy with all of the things you just wrote.

1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Write about in another room. Leave it there, Put it

1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>on your phone, leave it there on a note, sapp

1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:16.519
<v Speaker 1>But do it in another room when you get into bed. Either,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to your voice repeating the words that you want

1:25:19.200 --> 1:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>in your head, so that you now start listening and

1:25:21.280 --> 1:25:23.479
<v Speaker 1>trusting your own in a voice and having trust in

1:25:23.479 --> 1:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>your intuition.

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<v Speaker 3>Read it again and again.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't like the sound of your voice and

1:25:26.920 --> 1:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you think it's cringe, actually, then you should listen to

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<v Speaker 1>it even more.

1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:33.240
<v Speaker 3>So that you realize your voice. Yeah, prey, Read it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And again and again off a piece of paper as

1:25:35.200 --> 1:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>it becomes your main thought, because it's all a repetition,

1:25:38.439 --> 1:25:40.479
<v Speaker 1>and see how it feels in your body. So I

1:25:40.520 --> 1:25:42.719
<v Speaker 1>always say, when you're repeating a phrase or a mantra,

1:25:43.040 --> 1:25:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you have to believe it in your body. You have

1:25:45.160 --> 1:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>to mean it in your mind, and you have to

1:25:46.960 --> 1:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>feel it in your heart. So every time you say

1:25:49.040 --> 1:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a statement, it's not just saying it, You're trying to

1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>believe it in your body.

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<v Speaker 3>What does it feel like when I believe that's true

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<v Speaker 3>for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I go to sleep believing I am waking

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<v Speaker 1>up healthy, with juvenated and rested, I feel strong, I

1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:04.800
<v Speaker 1>feel sturdy. I don't feel like this anymore if there's

1:26:05.160 --> 1:26:07.360
<v Speaker 1>my body changes. If I'm going to mean it in

1:26:07.400 --> 1:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>my mind, I've got to focus on how powerful it

1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>is when I wake up with a really focused mindset.

1:26:13.320 --> 1:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>And finally, I've got a feel in my heart. I've

1:26:14.840 --> 1:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>got to feel what it feels like to live a

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<v Speaker 1>day that starts off with health and abundance. When you

1:26:19.479 --> 1:26:21.960
<v Speaker 1>can do it in that way reading or listening to

1:26:22.000 --> 1:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>your own voice, all of a sudden, it starts to

1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>become programmed.

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<v Speaker 3>It's as simple as that. It's not complicated. That's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually going to start doing yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You whatever, whatever, affirmation, whatever, whatever you want to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not like some I always like to take

1:26:35.160 --> 1:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>away the mysticism of it. It's not magic. You're doing

1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it anyway. You already tell yourself I sucked at work today.

1:26:42.040 --> 1:26:45.160
<v Speaker 1>You're already telling yourself, Oh I didn't work out hard

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<v Speaker 1>enough today.

1:26:45.920 --> 1:26:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh I forgot to do this today.

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<v Speaker 1>You're already doing it, so you're just replacing it with

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<v Speaker 1>what you actually want to think that actually makes you better.

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<v Speaker 3>You're It's not magic.

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<v Speaker 2>I could talk to you forever.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a great conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. You're going on tour, which is

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<v Speaker 2>so exciting. Tell me about on tour. Where can people

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<v Speaker 2>also buy tickets?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm going on tour for the first time ever

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<v Speaker 1>with the podcast, which i'd be interviewing special guests in

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen cities across You.

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<v Speaker 2>Have inspired me to you yes, to do it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited about it because I know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>people who listen to my podcast on purpose forget every week,

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<v Speaker 1>every day, and I'm like, imagine being in the room

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<v Speaker 1>with me and a special guest asking questions being present

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<v Speaker 1>in the room. We're gonna have an interactive experience. Just

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that you already tune in, why not coming

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<v Speaker 1>and tune in person and so you can go to

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Shetty dot me Forward slash Tour. So that's j

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<v Speaker 1>Shelly dot me Forward slash Tour. And I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to see everyone. I can't wait to just see the

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose community that we built over the last six years.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so inspiring. And I love that you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>new things. I love that people get to see you

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<v Speaker 2>in person and they because you're in different cities as well,

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<v Speaker 2>it allows other people if there in that city, they

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<v Speaker 2>can go and watch you. That's so much And if

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<v Speaker 2>anyone wants to just follow you in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jay Sheddy across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube podcasts on Apple, Spotify,

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart and all the all the apps.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway is only one Jay Sheddy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love this episode, you're going to love my

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Matthew Hussey on how to get over your

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<v Speaker 1>ex and find true love in your relationships.

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<v Speaker 3>People should be compassionate to themselves that extend that compassion

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<v Speaker 3>to your future self because Truly extending your compassion to

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<v Speaker 3>your future self is doing something that gives him or

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<v Speaker 3>her a shot at a happy and a peaceful life.