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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and well we were coming to

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Speaker 2: you a little a little differently today. I am still

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Speaker 2: down at the upmc rooney Sports Complex here on the

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Speaker 2: south side. Matt is actually at home Justin's Becken Studio

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Speaker 2: making sure we're on the air, and we got CJ

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Speaker 2: here helping make CJ hopefully making sure everybody is hooked

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Speaker 2: up here on site. And it's just a little different

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Speaker 2: feeling to the show. But this is what happens when

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Speaker 2: you get you know, the Thursday night game then followed

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Speaker 2: by a Thanksgiving situation and you have to adjust, you

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Speaker 2: have to be ready to you know, adjust on the fly.

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of what Steelers are doing right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so not the usual situation for us. Obviously, hopefully

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Speaker 3: there's not too many delays in communication and usually we're

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Speaker 3: in the room together and you guys all know that. Well,

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Speaker 3: we YouTube everything now as well, so that's had a

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Speaker 3: new feel to the show. But we got a lot

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Speaker 3: to unpack I mean, this week's getting away from us

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Speaker 3: pretty quick here, though.

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Speaker 2: It certainly is, and there is a lot to unpack

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Speaker 2: for this week, not a ton of injury news and notes,

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Speaker 2: so we'll get to some of that a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: But Mike Tomlin's saying today that Corey Trice could be

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Speaker 2: back for this week, and so we'll see. He has

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Speaker 2: had that twenty one day window opened on November fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: so he's about day. They don't have to activate him

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Speaker 2: this week. They could wait until next week. But he

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Speaker 2: also mentioned that Montrevius Adams could be back for this game,

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Speaker 2: which was.

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Speaker 3: A bad a big one. That would be a big one.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not putting words in your mouth, but it

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Speaker 3: sure sounds like Trice is not that he will be

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Speaker 3: back with the team. You know that he's not going

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Speaker 3: to go on into reserve for the year or whatever, obviously,

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Speaker 3: so that's great. I think he has a promising future

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Speaker 3: and maybe he'll push for a starting job someday and

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Speaker 3: maybe next year, or maybe he's the number three outside guy.

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Speaker 3: I have some Sutton concerns at this stage of his

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Speaker 3: Steeler history to line up outside and run with outside,

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Speaker 3: you know, Jamar Chase t Higgins type. So I'm glad

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Speaker 3: that Trice is in the mix to some degree. But

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Speaker 3: Adams really intrigues me because I loved Keanu Benn. I

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Speaker 3: think he's going to be a great player. I think

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Speaker 3: he's a thousand times more impactful pass rusher then his

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Speaker 3: numbers would indicate, and he just bullies people.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think he's a nose.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think that they're kind of holding it

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Speaker 3: together with him as a run defender over the center,

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Speaker 3: and I think his future is more Cam Hayward than

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Speaker 3: it is Casey Hampton. And we realize nose tackles on

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Speaker 3: this team aren't asked to be Hampton anymore. But Adams

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Speaker 3: could be a really nice addition just in that regard

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Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five steps a.

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Speaker 2: Game, Yeah, I mean even if it's less than as

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Speaker 2: let's say it's fifteen snaps a game, because how much. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: for example, this week, you're not going to play a

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Speaker 2: ton of base defense against the Bengals, No, No, I

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Speaker 2: mean they live in eleven personnel, so you're going to

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Speaker 2: see more, you know, of the nickel defense than anything else.

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Speaker 2: But you know there are future opponents where you're going

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Speaker 2: to need a you know, a true run stopping nose tackle,

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Speaker 2: and that's what Montrevius Adams is. And that's not a

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Speaker 2: knock on Keanu Benton at all. Remember I mean kem

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Speaker 2: ofv On Ohoffen when the Steelers first signed him, played

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Speaker 2: nose tackle for a season. Yeah, and they kicked him outside.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of who Keanu Benton is in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: I think he's he can do. He can play nose tackers,

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Speaker 2: but I think he's more you know, better used or

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Speaker 2: better used as a you know, an up to field

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Speaker 2: pass rusher. And you know, if you don't have to

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Speaker 2: maybe he becomes a more effective pass rusher.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking too, is if he can,

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Speaker 3: and maybe even give Ogajobi a breather or I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there's an injury on the horizon, knock on Wood that

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Speaker 3: you're gonna need the depth. I mean, having an extra

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely not so we'll see about that. Tom said

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Speaker 2: hear from high Smith later in the show. He did

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Speaker 2: oh this season Matt and Alex high Smith plays, they're

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Speaker 2: the you know, there's some of the pass rush issues

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Speaker 2: this year and lack thereof. I think getting Alex high

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Speaker 2: But I think when he's out there, he gives you.

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Speaker 2: I think he's better at setting the edge, you know,

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Speaker 2: in the run game, and I certainly think he is

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Speaker 2: a premier pass rusher in the in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a small sample size five games being

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Speaker 3: out and you know, only going two and three during

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Speaker 3: that stretch, But I also think I think it's a

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a plus starter for any any team

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Speaker 2: Is he'd bember a lot of teams on a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of teams, right. And I also think probably contributed to

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Speaker 3: the Preston Smith trade too. Like Herbig's a really good

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Speaker 3: in the league as well, and play probably double or

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Speaker 3: triple the amount of snaps if he wasn't a Steeler.

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Speaker 3: But I also don't want him wearing down either. He

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Speaker 3: doesn't look anything like Preston Smith, and you know in

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Speaker 3: terms of physicality and stopping the run and all those

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Speaker 3: those guys could go a really long way for this

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Mike Tomlin also saying.

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Speaker 3: Today throw one number I dug up was we had

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Speaker 3: pass rush and it needs to be better. And I

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Speaker 3: think we'll all admit that. And I don't love pressure rate,

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Speaker 3: but the Steelers are.

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Speaker 4: Eighth in the league in pressure rate.

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Speaker 3: I mean thirty six point two percent of opposing dropback

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Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, teams are just they're scheming things up

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Speaker 2: because they know this. Dealers are built or predicated to

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Speaker 2: defensively on getting a good pass rush and so the

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Speaker 2: ball gets out of their hands quickly. You know, even

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Speaker 2: if it's third and long, you're still maybe throwing short

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Speaker 2: make sure the Steelers don't affect a game with that

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Speaker 2: pass rush. And those are some of the things that

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Speaker 2: Tomlins said that the team looked at, you know, the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff looked at over the weekend, and also red

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Speaker 2: zone offense and defense, and everybody's focused in on the

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Speaker 2: red zone offense and certainly the numbers need to be

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Speaker 2: better there. But defensively, Matt, they've allowed eight touchdowns in

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Speaker 2: their last nine red zone trips for a defense that

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Speaker 2: you know has been is a highly compensated b has

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Speaker 2: They're still at fifty just over fifty percent conversion rate. Overall,

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Speaker 2: there's still eleventh in the league in terms of touchdowns

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Speaker 2: offensively allowed, but eight out of nine. You want to

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Speaker 2: nip that trend in the bud now before it turns

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Speaker 2: into you know, something that that's even a greater problem.

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Speaker 3: No question. And again nothing gets easier from here on out.

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Speaker 3: And I'm talking about the playoffs, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a fourgone conclusion. Team is going to

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Speaker 3: be in the playoffs. But you start losing games or

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Speaker 3: you know, going down a road now and starting a

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Speaker 3: bad streak, well then you're in trouble. And I think

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Speaker 3: you do need to spend these ten days to nip

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Speaker 3: any bad habits in the bud or.

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Speaker 4: What's red zone play calling?

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Speaker 3: Look like? What is you know, are we running a

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Speaker 3: little bit too much on second and long?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're living defensively? Are we playing too much zone?

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Speaker 2: And maybe we need to do more man right? You know,

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Speaker 2: who are we using out there in these certain situations?

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Speaker 2: So you look at that, you know, how are how

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Speaker 2: are teams attacking us in these situations? Both offensively.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to reinvent the don't have to reinvent

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Speaker 3: the wheel, but let's tweak it, you know, let's make

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Speaker 3: it run a little smoother because the road's a lot

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Speaker 3: about to get a lot rougher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know everybody likes to focus on the offensive

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Speaker 2: part of this, and certainly, you know the offense needs

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Speaker 2: to be better in the red zone, but take this

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Speaker 2: into consideration as well. So in twenty twenty three, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers had for the season forty two red zone trips.

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Speaker 2: They converted their forty seven point six percent rate. They

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Speaker 2: also had nineteen passing plays of thirty or more yards.

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Speaker 2: That's for the season. We're eleven games into this thing

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Speaker 2: this year and they've got forty two red zone trips,

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Speaker 2: same as numbers they had all of last season. They

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Speaker 2: also have nineteen passing plays of thirty or more yards,

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Speaker 2: the same exact number they had in the entire season

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Speaker 2: last year. So you're you're moving the football better, You're

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Speaker 2: getting more explosive plays. You just have to clean up

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Speaker 2: that red zone stuff a little bit. In a difference overall,

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Speaker 2: it's not you know, they were twenty of forty two

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Speaker 2: last year in the red zone. Right now they're seventeen

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Speaker 2: of forty two. So you know you're talking about scoring

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Speaker 2: three more touchdowns, Well, you do that, it changes the

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Speaker 3: No, no question, And I'm sure there'd be the first

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Speaker 3: to tell you that we're not thrilled with our red

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Speaker 3: zone offense and we're taking a step back. And I

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Speaker 3: just saw it today, George Pickens has the most end

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Speaker 3: zone targets of any wide receiver in the league. Well,

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Speaker 3: I would stick with that, but I might also throw

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Speaker 3: the ball Mike Williams away prior Mooth Washington. You know,

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Speaker 3: Washington and Williams in particular haven't really been full time

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Speaker 3: just really grown since the bye basically. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: some serious beef in the red zone. I'm sure you

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Speaker 3: can find a nickelback or an undersized linebacker or a

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Speaker 3: five to ten safety on just about every team you

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Speaker 3: play that's matched up against one of those four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can get really big down there and kind

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Speaker 2: of force the matchups that you want as opposed to.

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Speaker 4: Just a pretty good run blocking group too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even if you think back to the interception

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a poker player play in the odds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was also asked today about what

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Speaker 2: They swallow their whistle on Hail Mary's.

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Speaker 3: They do exactly exactly. Everyone on the planet knows it

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Speaker 2: In that situation?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the very least it should have been a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, We've been thrown a lot of metaphors out here,

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Speaker 2: But he is Matt Williamson, player to lose the game,

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Speaker 4: There, there were there they are dreams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're They're very extreme in a lot of different

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Speaker 1: At least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: And we are back, gy a, Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: I dug into them today, if you look at the Okay,

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Speaker 2: They're averaging three hundred and fifty four point three yards

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bad, bad, bad mix.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's an even steven mix. That is really what

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Speaker 2: One in six, yeah, one in six and one score

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on average, you turned the twelfth guy into the

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Speaker 2: It really is, and it's just kind of their season

435
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: in a nutshell. I mean, even average yards per play.

436
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: We know they have a good offense, they're averaging five

437
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: point seven yards per play, they're giving up five point five,

438
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: So you know, it's like everything.

439
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: Is even even steven, Yeah, except for their rush and

440
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 3: steven with a little bit of bad luck, you know, right.

441
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: I mean, they've they've thrown for four yards then their

442
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 2: opponents by about four hundred or three hundred more yards

443
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: or so four hundred more yards, but they've allowed four

444
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: hundred more rushing yard than their opponents. And a big

445
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: part of that, the big difference in that, Matt, is

446
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: they've allowed four hundred and one rushing yards to opposing quarterbacks. Now,

447
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 2: I get that you played Lamar twice, and you played

448
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: you know, you played Jaden Daniels, but you can't be

449
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 2: last by over one hundred yards in terms of what

450
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: you've given up to opposing quarterbacks. The Steelers over four hundred.

451
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: You said they've allowed four hundred and one rushing yards

452
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: to opposing quarterbacks.

453
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: That's all.

454
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: That's not all Lamar, and that's not all jad and Daniels.

455
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: That's everybody running the ball against you at the quarterback position.

456
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the Steelers are best.

457
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: They're number one.

458
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that doesn't shock me at all.

459
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 3: What a was I say about that? Oh?

460
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 4: Their pass rush.

461
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean they get a sack on four point five

462
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: percent of opposing dropbacks.

463
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: The only teams worse.

464
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: Are Atlanta, who hasn't had a pass rush in a decade,

465
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: and the Panthers, who have no one most people listeners

466
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 3: could tell you in their defensive lot.

467
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bad.

468
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: It's just it's brutal. It's bad.

469
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, I understand why people have trepidation

470
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: when it comes to the Cincinnati offense. It's a very

471
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 2: good offense. They can score with anybody righting. But the

472
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: problem is is they can't stop anybody. And so you

473
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 2: know that includes I know again we talked about the

474
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: red zone offense in the previous segment. They're thirty first

475
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: in red zone defense. They give up a touchdown seventy

476
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: percent of the time when the opposing offense gets inside

477
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: to twenty and then it's side to twenty a lot and.

478
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 3: They get inside of the twenty a lot. And I'm

479
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: trying to find this one too. Uh it's what do

480
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: you say was seventy point five for the year red

481
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: zone allowance For the last three games, it's eighty five

482
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: point seven. Yeah, I mean like they're just getting out

483
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: the way way, they're not putting up resistance.

484
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: That's against the Raiders, the Ravens and the Chargers. Now, yeah,

485
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: the Ravens offense is really good right now. Yeah, the

486
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: Ravens offense is really good. But nobody would confuse Nobody

487
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: would say the Raiders offense or the Chargers offense or

488
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: they're not great.

489
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you know, I mean they're work. Chargers

490
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: are working progress with a good quarterback. The Raiders are terrible. Yeah,

491
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: I mean that's so.

492
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what you're I mean, that's what you're

493
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: looking at here. They've allowed thirty six. They've scored thirty

494
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: six touchdowns, which is good. They've allowed thirty six touchdowns.

495
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: The Steelers have allowed twenty. Yeah, they have almost twice

496
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 2: as many touchdowns allowed as what the Steelers have, you know,

497
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 2: and then you look at their they're fifteen of twenty

498
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: one on field goals. You know. So that's how you

499
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: end up losing some of these close games. You know,

500
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: you're your place kicker, you know who they love, and

501
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: I get it. He's been you know, McPherson's is good,

502
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: but he's not having a great year and no, he's

503
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: you know, it's just, uh, you can't. He's three of

504
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: five between forty and forty nine yards. He's three of

505
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: seven from fifty and beyond in a league that everybody's

506
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: making their kicks from fifty and beyond.

507
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: Oh that's huge.

508
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: And I find this team build interesting because they drafted

509
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 3: offense heavy for a while, you know, Burrow, Chase Higgins,

510
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: et cetera. And then they wisely realize, we're gonna have

511
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 3: to pay those guys, so we can't go get the

512
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: Hendrickson's and Hilton's and all.

513
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: By him on the open market agents.

514
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: Right, they build a decent defense a couple of years

515
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: ago from other teams free agents, Hendrickson being the poster

516
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: boy of that, and he's by far their best guy.

517
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: And DJ Reader was another one, you know who's gone

518
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: obviously so wisely. Over the last couple of years, they've

519
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: drafted defense high.

520
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: The problem is they've done it really poorly.

521
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: I mean this year, Chris Jenkins the second rounder, not

522
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: a starter, his book's not written. Who knows Miles Murphy

523
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 3: in the first round the year before really underachieving. DJ

524
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: Turner's Okay, Jordan battle yea stretch I mean, that's our

525
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: top three picks in twenty twenty three. Daxton Hill has

526
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: not worked out in the first round.

527
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: Cam Taylor bri is another one that they drafted. What

528
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: was Taylor brit a second round or third round or somewhere.

529
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: He was a sixtieth thick overall. He's second Zachary Taylor

530
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: in the third round of twenty twenty two. I don't

531
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: even think he plays, you know what I mean. So

532
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: you're investing all these early picks on the defensive side

533
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: of the ball and getting nothing for your investment.

534
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the Turner hurt.

535
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I thought he.

536
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: Left that game against a Charger with a shoulder injury. Yeah,

537
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: he has a broken clavical so he's out.

538
00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: Now.

539
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: Now you're counting on some of these other guys that

540
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: weren't as good as him.

541
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: You know.

542
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 2: It's just the defense is a problem for them, It

543
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: really is.

544
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: It really is. Yeah, And it's hard to say if

545
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: lu and Marumo is still a great innovative defensive coordinator

546
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: or not. His resume has fallen down the drain for

547
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 3: the last year plus now, I mean almost two years.

548
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: But he also does a very good players.

549
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: The fun the strange thing is Matt is two years

550
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: ago and this was largely the same guys here in

551
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 2: this team, other than a few notable exceptions. And you know,

552
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: they still had Logan Wilson, Jermaine Pratt, Trey Hendrickson. You know,

553
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: Hubbard was there, bj Hill was there. It was Hill recent.

554
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: You know that he'll he's been there for the last

555
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: two or three. Yeah, you know a lot of these

556
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: guys are holdovers. They got von Bell back this year

557
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: after getting rid of him two years ago, you know,

558
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: after two years ago, and he missed. He wasn't there

559
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: last year where they brought him, and the results have

560
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: not been anything close to the same.

561
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: No, And I think all those guys got older, slash worse,

562
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: you know, and the linebackers, Pratt, Wilson. I still think

563
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: Wilson is a pretty good player, but they re up

564
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: those guys and maybe you should have done a better

565
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: job self scouting, you know, like maybe these guys aren't

566
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: the answer. They're getting better, but they're not good enough

567
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: to win with, you know.

568
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean that that's certainly the weakness on

569
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: this team, and you can attack this team through the air.

570
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we mentioned Taylor britt He got benched last week.

571
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: They pulled, they can they just put him on the bench.

572
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: And that was when you were already missing Dj Turner.

573
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: So you're starting two cornerbacks you benched. Well one got

574
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: benched and the other one got you know, injured. So

575
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: we'll see what they, you know, run out there this week.

576
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: I mean the backups are Josh Newton and DJ Ivy,

577
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: you know, not exactly household names. And who among that

578
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: group is covering George Dickens.

579
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah right right, I mean there other than Hendrickson, I

580
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: really struggle to find a strength or a well above

581
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: average starter or a guy that would start for the Steelers,

582
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: you know, like that doesn't mean they're all bad, but

583
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: the plays, yeah, no, right, and especially when you add

584
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: up the investment financially and through the draft with high

585
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: picks these last couple of years, you need Miles Murphy

586
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: to be a player, you know what I mean. Like,

587
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: and he's just one example, and secondary seems to be crumbling.

588
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: And okay, you brought von Bell back because your safety

589
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: has made a lot of mental errors and you and

590
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: you ask a lot of the safety position in this defense. Well,

591
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: he's a year older and a year slower, and he

592
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: wasn't the you know, the best athlete to begin with.

593
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: Right, right, yeah, So it's you know, I again, I

594
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: get why people have trepidation going into this game because

595
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati's offense, But the Steelers should be well yeah, yeah,

596
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: the Steelers should be able to move the ball consistently

597
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: against these guys, and they haven't stopped people in the

598
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: red zone. And and so again, when when I talk

599
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: about the red zone stuff, you know, it's such a

600
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: small sample size for both quarterbacks. You know that that

601
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: let's let's wait to see how this thing plays out.

602
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: Is kind of my point with that. I mean, if

603
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: you look at it, you know, nobody was complaining.

604
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: You know, if you look.

605
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: At Russell Wilson's first start, they were four or six

606
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: in the red zone scoring touchdowns. Now they went oh

607
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: for four against the Giants in the red zone the

608
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: following week. Giants actually have one of the top red

609
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: zone defenses in the league. Like this, that's not out

610
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: of the norm. They went three for four against Washington

611
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: in the red zone. Well then they went oh for

612
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: four against the Ravens. And you know, so over those

613
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: two games, you're you know, you're seven of what seven

614
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: of fourteen, that's actually not.

615
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: Bad, yes, but good. Maybe we'll look back at the

616
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: year and be like the Giants and Ravens games or anomalies,

617
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: you know, they were the one offs. They where you're

618
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 3: worst two of the Wilson era, you know, since he

619
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: took over, that's quite possible or that's the norm, and

620
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: then you're worried, you know. But yeah, I do think

621
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: this game and I hesitate to say this because maybe

622
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: they'll have twelve snaps in the red zone in this game,

623
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: and that doesn't mean it's fixed or it's broken, you know,

624
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: I mean maybe off twenty I don't know, but you

625
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: would think you should be able to score in the

626
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: red zone against these guys though, you know what I mean, right,

627
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: they're the worst team out there against it. I mean,

628
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: but the teams are allowed to get better too. What

629
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: do you think Cincinnati's practicing right now? Right?

630
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, I don't get overly wrapped up

631
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: in the overall numbers at this point in the season.

632
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: You know, if it becomes a long term trend, you know,

633
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: where you're going over four, over four, over three over

634
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: and over again, then okay, I get it, But again,

635
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, Russell Wilson, over the course of his career

636
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: has been good in the red zone. I don't think

637
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: that's necessarily you know, the be all end all that that,

638
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: oh he can't score in the red zone anymore. I

639
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: don't think that's the case. I just think that they're

640
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, had a couple of bad games against I

641
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: don't know if you heard this on the broadcast last night.

642
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: I think over the last I think they said over

643
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: the last four weeks, the Ravens have had the best

644
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: red zone defense in the league.

645
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: Oh really, Yeah, so that doesn't surprise him, you know. Yeah,

646
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: so you know that's that's a stiff test.

647
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, that's what you kind of expect

648
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: out of that Ravens defense. They made some changes, they've adjusted,

649
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: guys are getting used to the new play caller and

650
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Speaker 2: things of that nature. So I mean, the Ravens are

651
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 2: going to get better, and they got better last night

652
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: and you know, beat the Chargers. But you got to

653
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: figure these kind of things out and find ways to win.

654
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 2: And that's the bottom line. I mean, as much as

655
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: you complain about the red zone offense or whatever, they're

656
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: still eighting three, Like you're not three and eight trying

657
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: to fix these things as you're eighting three.

658
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: And one of the Ravens. Though, just from watching that game,

659
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: that started to really show up with the Steelers that

660
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: really affects their past defense is the Ravens pass rush

661
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: is starting to get back to where we think it

662
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: can be. You know, Matta Bouquet and o Ways coming

663
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: into his zone like that was part of the things

664
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Speaker 3: contributing to their terrible pass defense. Like I do not

665
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: think the Ravens are going to end up as the

666
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Speaker 3: thirty second best pass defense or whatever one's all said

667
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: and done.

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00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: No, nor do I. But again, you know, you take

669
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Speaker 2: your chances against them because you've beaten them made at

670
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: the last nine times. You know, maybe, yeah, maybe you

671
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: are the Lamar Jackson kryptonite because nobody else defends him

672
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 2: as well as you do. Now that can certainly change,

673
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: but all you can do is win the games and

674
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: then worry about the rest of it later. If you

675
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: if you win the game, and if they if they

676
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: go in and beat the Bengals and go oh for

677
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: four in the red zone. Again, does it in the

678
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, does it matter? You know what,

679
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: let's say, get in the explosive plays that you're getting

680
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: out of your offense help compensate for that a little

681
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 2: bit more than a little bit. I mean, you had

682
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: you had. If you remember last year, the first like

683
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: seven or eight games of the year, you're talking about

684
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: how the Steelers had no explosive plays. Their longest touchdown

685
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: pass was like eleven yards. Well that's not been the

686
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: case this year.

687
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: I mean, people were certainly fearing the deep ball, you know,

688
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 3: like to me offensively, if you want to nitpick and

689
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: say things that what worries you most about the offense,

690
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: it's not the red zone defense to me, because I

691
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: think there's a really good chance that that works itself

692
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: out because I know who this quarterback is and I

693
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: like their red zone pass catchers. But the running game

694
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: needs to be more.

695
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: Consistent to me, I mean, I don't think you can be.

696
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: A four yard running, four yard cloud of dust running game.

697
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: Not that there's they get their share of explosives, don't

698
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 3: get me wrong, but it's not as consistent as it's

699
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: been when it's coming. You know, it's been a hard

700
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: thing to count on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. So yeah, we'll see

702
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: where this goes. But certainly there's a lot to the

703
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: like with some of the matchups against the Cincinnati defense.

704
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: And you know, if you look at the Bengals, they

705
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: have lost Matt this season three games where they have

706
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: scored thirty three or more points. The rest of the

707
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: league has lost only two of those games.

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Speaker 3: Wow, So I mean pretty amazing.

709
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, they have some big scoring games.

710
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: But when they have those big scoring games, they give

711
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: them up as well. And you look at the games

712
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: with you know, some of the games that they've won,

713
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: even some of the games they scored ten points against

714
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Speaker 2: New England in the opener, they had seventeen against the Giants.

715
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: They won that game seventeen to seven, but they had

716
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: seventeen points. They scored twenty one against Cleveland, they scored

717
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: seventeen against Philadelphia. They've had some bad games offensively as well,

718
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: you know, so they're it's it's kind of a mixed

719
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: bag for them. And you know, if you can turn

720
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: Burrow over once or even twice in this game, or

721
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: get a fumble or whatever it might be, goes a

722
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: long way towards winning, because you know, it's just not

723
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: a very stout defense whatsoever.

724
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Speaker 3: And as you mentioned, he has turned the ball over

725
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: against the Steelers. I mean, like that's not irregular for him,

726
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: especially compared to the other division. The Steelers have caused interceptions

727
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: and forced him into bad throws and I'm sure they'll

728
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: hit him.

729
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, stand in the pockets. So he's a tough,

730
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: tough sob.

731
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Speaker 3: He really is. And this doesn't really affect the Steelers,

732
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: but it does really affect the Bengals and something they

733
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: absolutely need to examine and also messes up some of

734
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: their early season numbers. They start so slow every year,

735
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Speaker 3: I mean because they don't play anybody in the preseason, like,

736
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: and they keep doing it over and over and dig

737
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: themselves this hole that they got to climb out of

738
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: every year.

739
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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, and you can't keep you can't afford to

740
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: keep doing that. You're right now, you're four and seven.

741
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: We started zero to three, so you're four and four

742
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: in your last eight.

743
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're playing like even Steven now but before

744
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: you did.

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, let's get to another break. He is the

746
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive

747
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Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and I will

748
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Speaker 2: be back with more, right, after this.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly, he

753
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and Matt. We saw a game

754
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: last night the Ravens knockoff the Chargers thirty to twenty

755
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: three out in Los Angeles. Just the playoff standings in

756
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: the AFC as we get into Week thirteen here starting

757
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: on Thursday night with three games on Thursday, one on Friday,

758
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: and then everybody else playing Saturday or Sunday and Monday

759
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: this week. But as things currently stand now, the Ravens

760
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: move up into the five spot in the AFC playoff standings,

761
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: and now both they and the Steelers have a tiebreaker

762
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: over the Chargers. Denver is still in the seventh spot.

763
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Speaker 2: That the Chargers fall down to the sixth spot in

764
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Speaker 2: the AFC playoffs. And little stat I saw today, since

765
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: they've gone to the seventeen playoff format in twenty twenty,

766
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Speaker 2: teams that are in the playoff spots at Thanksgiving hold

767
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: onto those playoff spots seventy eight percent of the time.

768
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Speaker 2: So I mean, I think if you're looking at this

769
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Speaker 2: your playoff spots, you might see some change. Maybe somebody

770
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Speaker 2: knocks off either Denver or La, you know, for one

771
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: of those playoff spots there in the AFC. You know,

772
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Speaker 2: Miami being five and six right now being the closest

773
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Speaker 2: to that, but by and larger, your playoff field is almost.

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Speaker 3: All but set pretty much. Yeah, I mean, like I'm

775
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: pretty sure that Indy has the eighth seed right now.

776
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: Correct, they're nine. Miami's actually eight game because Miami's five

777
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Speaker 2: and six, India is five and seven.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I knew there was a half game difference. I

779
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: thought it was the other way around. I just don't

780
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Speaker 3: look at India as a playoff team, like I'd have

781
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: a really hard time imagining them getting in the top seven.

782
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Speaker 3: They basically Miami, and I just don't think they're capable,

783
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Speaker 3: you know, I mean just the eyeball test, the sniff test,

784
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: you know, where Miami and the Bengals, I know, they

785
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 3: almost have to be perfect, but at least I could

786
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: see them playing playoff level football to sneak in that backspot.

787
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Speaker 3: But other than that, to your point, the seven might

788
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: be set, and I feel like either the Ravens or

789
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 3: Steelers is going to be the five. The Houston's pretty

790
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: much guaranteed to be the four. One and two are

791
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: going to be between Buffalo and KC. You know, so

792
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: not only do we almost know the seven, but I

793
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: think we have a pretty good idea of what spots

794
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 3: they're going to be in two.

795
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, and you know, it's just a

796
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: matter of positioning, non seating. And you know that win

797
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: by the Ravens last night, it was actually a big

798
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: win for them. And here's another reason why if they

799
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: had lost that game, they would have fallen to four

800
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Speaker 2: and five in the conference. They're five and four right

801
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: now in conference play, which could be a factor in this.

802
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: They're two and two within a division. The Steelers are

803
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: one and one. The Steelers are five and two right

804
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: now in the conference. That's why this game against the

805
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: Bengals is kind of doubly important in many ways. And

806
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's two and five, by the way, in the conference.

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Speaker 3: That's what I say, if they get another conference since

808
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: he's not gonna win division, they get another conference loss.

809
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Speaker 2: Even if they went out, even though they finished at

810
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: nine to eight, they're probably gonna lose tie breakers left

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Speaker 2: and right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it really plays out poorly for them. I

813
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: just wanted to make a couple of notes of just

814
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 3: how the game played out last night too, if you

815
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: don't mind. Yeah, I mean I thought Baltimore it was

816
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: just more talented. I mean, like I thought, it just

817
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: became more and more obvious that the Chargers and Commanders

818
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: to me for first year head coaches and maybe you

819
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: might even put Seattle in there, have had successful seasons,

820
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 3: you know, like I think they're already over the hump

821
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: of this experiment is going to work. But especially Washington

822
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 3: and the Chargers, they need another offseason for sure. You know,

823
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Speaker 3: Like when the Chargers get down and the only guy

824
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: that's worth a crap catching the ball is Mconkey, I

825
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: don't care who your quarterback is. I mean, Quentin Onsen

826
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: screws things up left and right. Palmer seems like he's

827
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: a dollar short as well. The tight ends aren't dynamic,

828
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Speaker 3: that they're really hurting at that position, which is exactly

829
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Speaker 3: what we thought in the preseason. Like this isn't a

830
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Speaker 3: surprise to anyone.

831
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Speaker 2: Taking made a difference as well.

832
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, just speed and explosiveness.

833
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: Overall was like six yards of carry and you know

834
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: you didn't have him midway through the second quarter on

835
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Speaker 2: uh basically, and and that you know they had no

836
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: running game at the big deal. Yeah, yeah, I mean.

837
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Speaker 3: Yes, And boy he's playing well too, And people think, Wow,

838
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: they got a lot invested in this offensive line. They're

839
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Speaker 3: they should They're set for years, They're set for years

840
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: of tackle. The interior row line doesn't really move anyone.

841
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: Bradley Boseman is not winning against you know, most defensive

842
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: tackles in this league consistently. So they still need a

843
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: lot of pieces and I thought that really showed up

844
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: in the second half whenever they're trying to come back,

845
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 3: you know, I mean it's different if it's a seventeen

846
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: to sixteen game and you can grind it out and

847
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: punt and win in the margins and harbor it up.

848
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: But when it's a drop back passing game and you

849
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 3: have no running game without Dobbins or push up the middle,

850
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: best of luck justin you know, I mean, you can

851
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: only do so much.

852
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And sometimes you do have to look at

853
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: that strength of victory stuff. And if you look, if

854
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: you look at it right now, Baltimore has the best.

855
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Cleveland actually has the best strength of victory because they've

856
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: beaten Steelers and Ravens this season. But if you look

857
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: at the the teams that are in the playoffs right now,

858
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: the Ravens strength of victory is five twenty two. The

859
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: Steelers are second at four sixty two, then the Chiefs

860
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: at four fifty five, Buffalo's at four point fifty, and

861
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: then it falls off at a great amount. You got

862
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: Houston at four hundred, you get the Chargers at three

863
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: point thirty three, and you get the Broncos at three

864
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 2: twenty five. Right now, it's really reflective. Yeah, Miami strengthen

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Speaker 2: victory sixty three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And the Bengals must be terrible.

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Speaker 2: They're to twenty seven to our point about their their

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Speaker 2: their wins coming against teams that are combined ten and

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Speaker 2: thirty four.

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Speaker 3: Seven. And I think that's the worst in the conference.

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Speaker 4: That's awful, it really is.

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Speaker 3: And again I think that's reflective of who are the

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Speaker 3: best four teams in the AFC and the ones with

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Speaker 3: the ones that you mentioned there, I think are the

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Speaker 3: best four teams Kansas City, Buffalo and the two.

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Speaker 4: AFC North teams.

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't think any of us were worried about

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Speaker 3: the Ravens after losing the Steelers. Oh, they're no good anymore.

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Speaker 3: But I did I did mention that their pass rush

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Speaker 3: seems to be coming around, fewer blown coverages, which you

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Speaker 3: knew was going to get fixed. And they ran the football.

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Speaker 3: You know, they realized who they were and they ran

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Speaker 3: their football with the big back as well as Hill.

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Speaker 3: You know, they didn't even need Lamar to do a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, get back to who you are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the next play that Joey Bosa makes in a

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Speaker 2: game that I watch will be the first. Like, is

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Speaker 2: there a more overpaid, over hype player in a league

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Speaker 2: than him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Along those I said that this offseason too, Like

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Speaker 3: it seemed like when the Chargers were you know, they're

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Speaker 3: taken over with a new coach and he knows that

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Speaker 3: they're in cap hell, so they get rid of Allen,

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Speaker 3: they get rid of Mike Williams. There was talk about

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Speaker 3: Mac both. I mean, they were the big ticket items.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Boso would be my first cut. That guy's

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Speaker 3: never on the field, He's invisible all the time. If

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Speaker 3: he didn't put a lot of money in the bank

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Speaker 3: for his reputation five years ago, or if his last

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Speaker 3: name was Williamson. He may be on his third team

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Speaker 3: by now. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't make any place, so no anything.

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Speaker 4: He's always hobbling around, and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely he is. Matt Williamson, I am. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. That's

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Speaker 2: going to do it for our number one of the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and I'll

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Speaker 2: be back with our number two right after this