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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spinoff show Popping Off,

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Speaker 1: where we are digging deep on this season of Banner

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Speaker 1: Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping

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Speaker 1: Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.

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Speaker 2: And and Emily Simpson. I don't understand what that voice

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Speaker 2: was all about. I didn't know that you changed your

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Speaker 2: voice when we were in person.

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Speaker 1: That's why I curled my hair and I bet my

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Speaker 1: lips so would be bleeding, like I felt like just

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Speaker 1: giving all the things. Okay, well we're here, we're in person,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot to discuss. The first headline is

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Speaker 1: something about her is open. I think today is actually

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Speaker 1: the first day it's fully open. But we went online

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Speaker 1: because we wanted to postmate some It's not on Google

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Speaker 1: or Yelp or anything, so there's no phone number, so

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Speaker 1: we couldn't even do a taste test if we wanted,

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Speaker 1: unless we were to go show up at the place.

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Speaker 2: So I guess the only way you can of sandwiches

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Speaker 2: if you go in person right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which I'm sure a shit ton of people are.

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Speaker 1: It's just not gonna be us.

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Speaker 2: That's not us, it's today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So but if someone's there and they would like to

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Speaker 2: bring us.

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Speaker 1: Some, yeah, we're at iHeartRadio right now if you want

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Speaker 1: to zip on over to be a bank from West.

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Speaker 2: I like I like Turkey, I like Triggy.

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Speaker 1: I'm allergic to blue cheese. I don't know you know

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Speaker 1: all the different ones, but they're all named after like

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Speaker 1: high what would you say, like women, and like I

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Speaker 1: think one's the Meg, Like for Meg Ryan, one is.

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Speaker 2: Meg Ryan, Like I haven't even thought about her in

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Speaker 2: like twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Well I've thought about her in twenty years because she

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Speaker 1: was with my dad for like ten years, so she's

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Speaker 1: her step No, they're not together anymore. But like my

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Speaker 1: point is there's a bunch of I think another's Nicole

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Speaker 1: for Nicole Kidman, I think there's something along those lines.

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Speaker 1: Either way. Andy went to the pre opening, which I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know that I've ever seen a

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Speaker 1: photo of him. You can google it. Nothing comes up

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Speaker 1: at him at like Schworts and Sandy's or Tom Tom

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Speaker 1: or any of these other places.

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Speaker 2: What about for Lisa does you sew up for for Well?

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Speaker 1: I heard him say on watch What Happens live. If

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Speaker 1: he flew her.

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Speaker 2: If she on a jet, a jet, he would show up.

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Speaker 1: He would show up to the Wolf, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if we got float on a jet, we chove to

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Speaker 2: If Lisa wants to send us a jet, I'll go.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling of all the people Lisa's going

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Speaker 1: to send on a jet. No, I don't think you're

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Speaker 2: She might you might land in like Sri Lanka. We're

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Speaker 1: Bomba that's gonna be us. But not only that, Stassy

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Speaker 1: Katie and Stassy are on the outs. Katie was there,

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody was there except Lisavanner Pump Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Noticeably absent from the Something about her opening? Do you

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Speaker 2: think it's about Penny. I think there's definitely some tension there.

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Speaker 2: I think think my take is that she recommended Penny,

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Speaker 2: think there was definitely some animosity between the three of

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Speaker 2: them and I think Lisa probably, But.

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Speaker 1: Why would Lisa care that much unless bringing Penny in

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Speaker 2: Game, Because maybe Penny got so irritated that it looked

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think people really get irritated

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Speaker 2: Well, I think maybe that is, like, maybe there's some

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Speaker 1: La La Kent was also not there.

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Speaker 2: Well, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean her comments are currently limited right now,

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Speaker 1: and oh wait, La LA's on that. Yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: feel like when trolls really come out for you, one

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Speaker 1: that we all know about custody case, which I think

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Speaker 1: that would be the only reason she'd turn off comedy careacter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people have called her home record, they've called

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Speaker 1: her everything else. Why else would she do it if

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Speaker 1: it wasn't something that's involving ocean? Yeah, or she makes

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Speaker 1: her pregnant, so like her mental health could be Yeah, that.

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Speaker 2: Could be it too. I mean, who Jax doesn't want

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Speaker 2: Vanderpump Rules stars on the Valley? This is from bye

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Speaker 2: Way Hello Rama. On Jackson Brittany's podcast When Reality Hits,

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Speaker 2: Brittany said she'd like to see Shena and Laala on

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Speaker 2: the Valley. Jax disagreed, saying, I personally don't think we

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Speaker 2: need to bring anyone from vander Pump Rules over. I'm

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Speaker 2: not trying to make this vander Pump Rules. This is

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Speaker 2: the Valley. This is not an extension of vander Pump Rules.

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Speaker 2: I'm very proud of our show, and I think it

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Speaker 2: isn't fair for our cast members after they work so

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Speaker 2: hard to just bring people over, well, no one else.

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Speaker 1: I think isn't fair that Jax was one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons why everybody stopped filming with Kristin. So you can't

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Speaker 1: say that and then also be the one playing we're

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Speaker 1: going to act Kristen because Kristin didn't come over from

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Speaker 1: vander Pump Rules just now. This was something they all

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Speaker 1: because she didn't carry out the story the way that

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so what's your take do you think? I see,

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Speaker 2: I think The Valley would be good with Sena and Brock. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting word choice.

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Speaker 2: Mature as in where they're at in their life as

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Speaker 1: That reality of where their life is right now. That's

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Speaker 1: where on vander Pump Rules unless they're going to either

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Speaker 1: to a new storyline. Like what everybody's doing for work

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Speaker 1: is interesting and as exciting as it is that Ariana

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Speaker 1: it's like, that can't be a storyline, right, Like, because no,

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Speaker 1: and so I wouldn't mind some crossover, but what I

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Speaker 1: have noticed, and you have to correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you bring on seasoned reality television people onto a

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Speaker 2: because it has new people that aren't reality stars, so

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Speaker 2: I mean, even though Janet I feel like she knows

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Speaker 1: Also you see them all starting to pick up on it.

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Speaker 1: But because everybody doesn't know the game, I feel like

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Speaker 1: And then you see Janet's husband like code red but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're just having problems right now.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has problems right now, Like he had forgotten because

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Speaker 1: something else. That. And I'm not saying this is a

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Speaker 1: Does, it's completely obvious that he's trying to and it

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Speaker 1: One alleged message from short set, according to Joe, who

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Speaker 1: he wasn't trying to gaslight Joe. He asked that she

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Speaker 1: let him go, adding respectfully blocking you, so whatever you

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Speaker 1: kind of relate to Schwartz's ex, Katie Maloney. I think

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Speaker 1: how can she relate to Katie? I think there's such

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Speaker 1: what do you think about Joe going on Instagram live

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Speaker 2: Like, do you think it's it's like to me? Is

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Speaker 2: it like a need for attention?

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Speaker 1: I think the shift, which I think there's multiple things,

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Speaker 1: it became a problem with Joe and Schwartz is once

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Speaker 1: Schwartz realized Joe wanted to be on the show. I

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Speaker 1: think he was saying we had magic. For a while,

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Speaker 1: it was say it was a miracle, like things were great,

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Speaker 1: and I love that she wasn't into it. But then

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Speaker 1: I think he realized she is into it, right, she

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Speaker 2: That shift, Yeah, because she definitely. I mean I've never

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Speaker 2: See, that's how I felt like she comes off. She

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Speaker 1: Bad you're playing your scheme.

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Speaker 1: I think Katie's like, back off, I just I'm here

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Speaker 2: Like you give me a real conversation that you're having

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Speaker 1: I would. But I'm going to tell you this now

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Speaker 1: that I'm going to be recapping you, like now start

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get it on the pod. I need it

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Speaker 1: you're saying, how do you put boundaries? I'm putting words

437
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: in your mouth. You're like, what am I saying? You

438
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 1: haven't said it, but I know what you're thinking. But

439
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 1: Lala saying what's different is once she put those boundaries down,

440
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 1: those went across the board. And Arian is saying, your

441
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 1: boundaries don't have to look the same as mine, but

442
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: you have to respect them. I don't know, we'll see again.

443
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 2: I felt like, I don't know if Lala was trying

444
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 2: not to break the fourth wall, because you can't break

445
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 2: the fourth wall the reunion, like they tell you, like,

446
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,439
Speaker 2: whatever you have to say at the reunion, because to me,

447
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: the biggest fundamental difference between when you make that comparison

448
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: is the fact that Randall isn't a cast member. I

449
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 2: mean we've always said, like Tom is on the cast,

450
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: like he is on the.

451
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: Show, So.

452
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 2: You have a job, you're getting a paycheck, You've been

453
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: on the show a long time. He is a cast member.

454
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 2: So the boundaries aren't they're different. It's different.

455
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 1: But I also can say the way Arianna handled this conversation,

456
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's just like nailing it on

457
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: her own or I need to like give props to Susan,

458
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: our publicist, And also like Susan, where's this type of

459
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: advice when it comes to me?

460
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 2: You're down low on the totals, baby voice, handle shit

461
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 2: better make the other people look worse?

462
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 1: Like, where's that info for me, Susan? But on this one,

463
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: I see both sides as well. Why did they If

464
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: if we would have gotten the ari on it that

465
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: was said that end with Sandoval, I don't think this

466
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: would have been as big of an issue. But the

467
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: stuff Ariana said at the beginning, yeah, I think is

468
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: what made it hard. Well, I mean let's make it.

469
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: Let's say, instead of it being Sandoval, what if a

470
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: cast member said, I don't like Sena, so I don't

471
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 2: want anybody to be friends with Sheena. I don't want

472
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: you to hang out with Sheena. I want you to

473
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: film with Sheena.

474
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I.

475
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: Understand that Tom did her wrong, but at the end

476
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: of the day, you don't get to dictate who films

477
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: with who, who likes who, who's friends with who?

478
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: But also, do you care, like, is there anyone on

479
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: Orange County that you would be Like with the Shena

480
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: and Ariana conversation when they're talking in the pool and

481
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: she's like, will you do it for me? Like, is

482
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: there anyone you would feel like, oh, I have to do?

483
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: Like you care what that other person thinks so much

484
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 1: about this friendship?

485
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 2: You mean that I would let them dictate you I

486
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: film with her?

487
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: Who I talked to? Ye?

488
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: No, because I've been that close to Gina for six years.

489
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: And I mean I was always friendly with Shannon when

490
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: Shannon hated Gina, do you know what I mean? So

491
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: I've always felt like I've never let anyone dictate who

492
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm who you're alay with, or who I.

493
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: Have a relationship with. Right, But I think that is

494
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: what we're saying is the girls really want to stand

495
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: by Ariana one because they know that she got picked

496
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: over but two because they're afraid. They're afraid. Yeah, and

497
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: and she made it clear where she stood. But then

498
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: Ariana explains why she didn't tell Shena about Dancing with

499
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: the Stars. There was a leak, and then Sena found

500
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: out about Arian's Broadway debut by accident. Then this part

501
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of made me laugh. Andy thinks it's cool at

502
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: this point, like Dancing with the Stars.

503
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: She just had to rub it in even more right, He's.

504
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: Like, it's cruel. God. I was like, Andy, can you

505
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: pitch for me to be on a show? Like? Can they? Hello? Right,

506
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: it's cruel at this point that I have to recap

507
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: all these shows that I'm not on.

508
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: Do you want to do Dancing with the Stars?

509
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 1: Do you think I would be good at it? No?

510
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: But I think it would be fine to watch. Let

511
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: me be clear, I wouldn't be mad at you if

512
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: you didn't tell me you got Dancing with the Stars.

513
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be Can we tell that out

514
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: there Dancing with the Stars. I even have like the

515
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 2: whole hip replacement backstory.

516
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I had the cancer backstory.

517
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good one too.

518
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to learn, but I don't know that.

519
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean replacement though, I feel like I don't know, Well,

520
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: you could also have an injury or like a fall

521
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: like Vanderpump did. Oh yeah, Like is she going to

522
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: feel good enough to continue? Okay, there's real you cast?

523
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: Is it you not Sudden? No?

524
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: I mean I wish it was me not sudden, but

525
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: it's not me. Well, and both of her hips work fine,

526
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: like I don't understand, like I definitely have the better backstory.

527
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: I have a titanium hip, damn it. Then Andy welcomes

528
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: Ali and Joe to the reunion. Joe, listen, I'm not

529
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: Joe's biggest fan, but she comes in under fire immediately,

530
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: like there's not even James can be nice to do? Ye,

531
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: Like Joe tried to like help James out and he's like, yeah,

532
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: I know, I've watched myself on the show for a

533
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: million years. I know, like nobody wanted her there, which

534
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: leads me to believe that's got amazing. I'm wondering if

535
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: that's why she's acting super bizarre.

536
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 2: A needy, like trying to like get just well, her

537
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: time on the show is done now right, I mean,

538
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: there's no reason for her to be back if there's

539
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: another season, Joe wouldn't be around.

540
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: No, Joe's done. That was we're seeing the end of show.

541
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: So maybe that's the So you're saying, maybe that's why

542
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: all the all odd bizarre instagram lives, Like she just

543
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 2: keeps trying to get out there and have conversations and

544
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 2: create media.

545
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she's hoping that it'll catch on or that

546
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: somebody will do. I think that Short's kind of probably

547
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: screwed her over, and to some extent, of course you did,

548
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: but I think there's more to this story. I'm not

549
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: going to actually fully spell it out, but other than

550
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: Joe wanting to be on the show and that bothering Schwartz.

551
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I think, like clearly Schwartz screwed her over, but

552
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: like it doesn't bother me.

553
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean because I don't feel badly for her. She's

554
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: an adult woman.

555
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: I think it was very clear that he was interested

556
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: in hiding their relationship. He wasn't making it public, he

557
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: didn't want to tell anybody about it. He's like keeping

558
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: her hidden in his apartment. He's telling people like with

559
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: her around that they're not dating dating, Well, he's dating,

560
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 2: and she's stating there holding his hat like he made

561
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: it very clear. I think that he I mean, I

562
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: get it, he was probably saying I love you at home,

563
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: but how I mean, come on, if he's saying I

564
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: love you at home, but then he's speed dating and

565
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: making you hold his hat like he's clearly not interested.

566
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, actually he didn't even give her the hat.

567
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: He gave it to the word.

568
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 2: Right girl that he likes. So I'm just saying, I

569
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 2: don't really feel that badly.

570
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't, But I also feel like there's something else

571
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: they're not talking about. Something happened, in my opinion, with

572
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: Schwartz and his brother and all of that that made

573
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: him change whatever it is that he was doing in

574
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: his life. And I think that Joe was a part

575
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: of whatever, because there's something they keep alluding to, and

576
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: they go, we don't need to talk about that on

577
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: the show. We don't need to talk They said it

578
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: four to five times, we don't need to talk about

579
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: on the show. I'm like, well, I need to talk

580
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: about it. I need to know what you're talking about,

581
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: because it can't just be that she wanted to be

582
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: on a television show. That's one, but what are the

583
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: other reasons?

584
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: Well, okay, Well, if you could get Joe onto the podcast,

585
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: he would ask her that that would be a reason

586
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: to have her on.

587
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't trust Joe, I texted Schwartz, if I'm being honest,

588
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: Normally he texted me right back. But I text him

589
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: and said, can I call you one speaker? I have

590
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: a question for you from the pod? And he hasn't responded,

591
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: But it is pretty early for Schwartz, so like maybe

592
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: he isn't awake, but it has been delivered.

593
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: What were you going to ask him?

594
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask him what that thing is that

595
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: they're not actually saying.

596
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: He's going to tell you, Yeah, why you're recording a

597
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: podcast I do on speakerphone?

598
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't to himself, he really can't. If somebody

599
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: were to have dug into him in that moment and said,

600
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: he would have given in. But I think everybody kind

601
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: of respected the boundaries because they all know whatever those

602
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: boundaries are. But then we get into him talking about

603
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: his new girlfriend Sophia.

604
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: Why did he have to start it with like she's beautiful?

605
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: And what did he say? I don't know, she's like

606
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: like the most beautiful girl ever. I mean, not that

607
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: that's like my least favorite thing about her. Then you

608
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: don't lead with it. Then you're like, she's funny, she's smart,

609
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: she's cool, she's got a good job, she's of course beautiful.

610
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: You don't lead if I.

611
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: Mean, well, how awkward is that what Joe is sitting

612
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: right next to him? And then I might have felt

613
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: sorry for her like a little bit in that moment.

614
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: I like, at this point, Joe has pushed him to

615
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: the point where he's trying to almost be mean to

616
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: her to get her to go away. Yeah, Like, I

617
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: don't think it's actually gas lighting at this point. I

618
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: think he's like, listen, here's the fire, bitch, it's over.

619
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what's done. Get me out of your phone.

620
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: Quit talking about I am done. And she's not.

621
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: She's not done. She has more Instagram lives to do well.

622
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: Even when she left, she said I'm gonna go home

623
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: to cry, and I was like, but also she was

624
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: being very bizarre to Katie, Like Katie made very good points,

625
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: and she was like, listen, you know, I feel like

626
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: I was going through a lot and the last thing

627
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: I need to deal with was you. And she's like,

628
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: am I hearing this right?

629
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, you are hearing ye right, Yeah.

630
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: And actually what I'm saying makes perfect sent Also, she

631
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: didn't know what bread crumbing meant.

632
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means either.

633
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: What is that I'll be like little bread crumbs so

634
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: they can fall?

635
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in a relationship. Yeah, so like a guy

636
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: just gives like a little I've been married a long time.

637
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on.

638
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Follow the bread crumbs here, I'll leave him right out.

639
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: Can I have some crackers? My gosh. Then Katie has

640
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: continuously stated how much she dislikes Joe. Then we get flashbacks.

641
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: It's I don't really know that I have anything else

642
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: to say about Joe.

643
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: No, I really don't either. It We've we've spent a

644
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: lot of time on Joe. We're at our threshold.

645
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: You know what. Bye Joe, Bye Joe. We wish you

646
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: the best, Joe. We won't see you next season, but

647
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: we won't see you next year.

648
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: Joe, walk with your Instagram lives.

649
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: Maybe you'll make it onto our rundown if you keep

650
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: it up, but we can't make any promises. Then we

651
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: get into James responding to Rachel's accusations that Hippy's behavior

652
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: is bad because of the way James treated him, and

653
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: Lisa knew that James would be a great dad to Hippie.

654
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: This is the part that confuses me. I am surprised

655
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: that Lisa allowed the conversation that a dog was to

656
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: be purchased and then shipped across the country all of that.

657
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: I was like, this doesn't feel like for the dog.

658
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean, granted, people do that all the time. Yeah,

659
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: but that's not a very vander Pump dog's right type

660
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: of dog. Perty Well, do you think that she should

661
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: have intervened? And I'm surprised she was like, well, I'm

662
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: just surprised she didn't have any comment.

663
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 2: On that, right unless they cut it out?

664
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. True. But then they talk about some of the

665
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: compromises he's made for Ali, where Ali, I think Ali

666
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: doesn't really let him like, she doesn't let him wiggle

667
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: at all, Like she kind of holds him.

668
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: No, she holds him accountable. And the fact that she

669
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: moved out for two days when he drank and she

670
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: doesn't like how he is when he drinks. Like, I

671
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: give her props for being strong and having like a

672
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: solid line, Like it's very black and white with her,

673
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: and that's good you know, I.

674
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: Think so too, But I also think if they were

675
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: to get engaged, what do you think the chances are

676
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: that those two end up together.

677
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, because she made it clear that

678
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: even if they got engaged anytime soon, it would have

679
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: to be a long engagement.

680
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: But sometimes people do that because they really want to

681
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: get engaged.

682
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: You mean they just want to get engaged.

683
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: No, they want like they want to feel like she's

684
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: at the age where she may still be playing the game,

685
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, like she may be like, oh, well, I

686
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean I wouldn't if I really didn't

687
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: want to get married, I wouldn't want somebody to propose

688
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: to me.

689
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: So you're saying she would just say okay, even knowing

690
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: that it probably wouldn't work out.

691
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's what she's saying. She goes, well, if

692
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: I would say yes now, but it would be a

693
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: very long time. It would be a very drawn out engagement.

694
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: I don't really get that, Like, you either want to

695
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: get married or you don't, Like, I have no interest

696
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: in granted I'm divorced and remarried, but I have no

697
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: interest in getting engaged to multiple people. Yeah, just so

698
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: I can have a ring on my finger just to

699
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: appease somebody.

700
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

701
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: What do you think about her on the show?

702
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: Like, do you think she's like we clearly thought that

703
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: Joe's in it for the show, Like Joe likes the spot,

704
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: likes she likes me on the show.

705
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: What do you think about Ali? I think Ali likes Jane.

706
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: I think Ali also wants to and I think this

707
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: is fine to be both things. I think Ali wants

708
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: her career in the music industry. I think she wants

709
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: to promote her readings all of those things. But I

710
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: think she really does like James, and I think he

711
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: really does like her. But I think there's something inside

712
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: of James where he cannot be alone because there's a

713
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: void there and he just feels like it's like this

714
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: ultimate neglect, which is why he quits drinking every single

715
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: time a girl says that they will leave him if

716
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't stop, but then starts back up when they

717
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: do leave him. When James got very upset with Sandoval

718
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: ten minutes after this conversation regarding Hippie and oh was

719
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: that the Egdonna's dog and all that stuff, I think

720
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: that had zero to do with anything Sandoval said, I

721
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: think it had to do all with what Ali had

722
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: said about you think it saying that she'd leave again

723
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: if he started drinking. I think he was holding it in, Yeah,

724
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to be aggressive with Ali and

725
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: he knew he could be with Sandom. Yeah.

726
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: Because that's interesting because Shane was actually in the room

727
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: during that scene and he goes, what just happened? He goes,

728
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: I don't even understand what just happened? Yeah, where it

729
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: went to that level of anger and it didn't There

730
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: was no context for it, like it just came out

731
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: of nowhere.

732
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what, whoever is the primary carekeeper of

733
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: the dog is the one that's going to get the dog.

734
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: But like to go from that to that, I think

735
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: was really he was annoyed with the alley situation. Anne

736
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: is referred to as Star of the Year on vander

737
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: Pumper Rules. I'm surprised Anne wasn't a surprise guest.

738
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless she comes out in the next one.

739
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

740
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: Because A do cell commercials, she didn't have time for Dura.

741
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: Cel hook us up because like I'm I use batteries, listen, I've.

742
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: Never had Dura cel all for anyone offer me to

743
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: do a commercial. I've been on TV for six years now,

744
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: I know.

745
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: What you're offering right now? Yeah, six years.

746
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: I've been on TV for six years now. I don't

747
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: no one's knocking out my door to ask me to

748
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: do commercials. And Ann's made like a few scenes here and.

749
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: There also a post on her instant that people fly

750
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: her to watch what Happens Live. Well, I mean, Durusil,

751
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: it could have been you. Yeah, a trip sponsored by Drusso.

752
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: But anyways, coming up. In part three of the Union,

753
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: Andrew reveals that they're going to watch the last few

754
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: minutes of the season finale together. Lala is yelling at

755
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: someone to respect her position on the show, and Sandoval

756
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: is sobbing as he tries to apologize to Ariana, to

757
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: which she responds. And this, I felt was a really

758
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: heartfelt moment. I just want you away from me. I

759
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: want you gone.

760
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. That was I mean, that

761
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: was tough to see and I understand.

762
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: I felt like both emotions were real in that moment. Yeah,

763
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: we're in this together, but we really don't want to

764
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: be see. I felt like the second reunion was just very.

765
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: And then the third one is where yeah, all the

766
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 2: intensity is going to come out.

767
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: Well, I wonder if they're going to give Laala any redemption.

768
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: They're just going to keep making her look like the

769
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: catalyst and the one that's creating all this drama within

770
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: the friend group. But yeah, I don't know. I also

771
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: am a little bit curious why Brock stayed the whole

772
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: time and the other ones zipped out. Brock's are just

773
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: there to make like small comments ship talk, like like

774
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: that's he's there. For one.

775
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: He did that with Schwartz, right, he made some comment

776
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: about his marriage or something.

777
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: Both of them. I was like, so what But him

778
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: and she and I haven't really had any like connection

779
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: or talking much.

780
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 2: No, and they haven't talked about their relationship at all

781
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: really no.

782
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: Just about his stuff with the kids the episode one,

783
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: But who knows. I am it has made me more interested.

784
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: But let's take a quick break and come back to

785
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: talk about Valley Season one, episode nine. This episode of

786
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: The Valley is brought to you by Jackson's number one

787
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: guy in the group, Huddy. Like I have smelled like

788
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: sweat and tequilla at this point, like he's always sweaty.

789
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: He is, I mean it's a man I have ever seen,

790
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: not a sweaty as me right now.

791
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: But he's so moist all the time.

792
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: I want you to look at how your mouth looks

793
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: when you say the I'm gonna say it again. It's

794
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: to bother you. He disgusted.

795
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: He's so moist.

796
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Oh, he just looks like he needs those like you

797
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: know those makeup, Yeah, like I know I need one

798
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: right now, to the little powder pat he just needs

799
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: to put some in his pocket. And just you know,

800
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: I feel like he may use self tanner, not like

801
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: even spray tans, but he uses his own self tanner.

802
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: Which clogs his poor yes, and then it's just like

803
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: permanently sweaty. Yeah, yeah, that would make sense.

804
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: But it starts where the conversation between Michelle and Jack's

805
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you, I thought this was gonna

806
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: go a different way. I was like, he's like, so

807
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: I heard your sexting celebrities, and she's like, well I am,

808
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: but it's just clearly marketing, like yeah, and then she's like,

809
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: of course Jesse knows. And at this point you realize

810
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: their marriage.

811
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: But was there ever really any confirmation of whether she

812
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: sends nude photos or sexy photos or whatever, or did

813
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: she just kind of glaze over that part?

814
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: And she does. I went back and looked at a

815
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: million old photos of Michelle and Jesse. I took the time.

816
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: Where do you have this time? You know what? I

817
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: don't sleep so during I fall.

818
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: This is why you don't get your roots done because

819
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: you're too busy. I'm doing this stuff.

820
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: Listen, you want to ask me anything about p Diddy?

821
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: Quiz mey. I know every thing there is to know, like, honestly,

822
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: ask I mean, he's even where is he right now?

823
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: That I don't know? But anything else that you can

824
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: find out on TikTok or anything else. The baby mama

825
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: that loves Sean Combe's instagram. How he's involved with Michael

826
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: Jackson's death. I'm I'm involved. Well, you should just have

827
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: your own podcast, honestly. Can we do a popping off

828
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: episode where you get Aubrey O'Day on because that okay, Maya.

829
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: Shane's really good friends as an attorney. His name is

830
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: Cyrus and he's like, was best friends with Audrey Aubrey.

831
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: Whatever the hell her name is? What's her name? Aubrey Aubrey,

832
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: but it might be Audrey Aubrey like they were best friends,

833
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: like all through college. Well, I watched the TMC Investigates

834
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: last night and she had to have been reading from

835
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: a script.

836
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: Again, I don't know what you're talking. What is she

837
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: being investigatd.

838
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: Peaty because she was on Danity Kane. Oh, yeah, Culture

839
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: for the Love.

840
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're I think I was in

841
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: law school oh when that was going on.

842
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Sorrys in law school too, was second bar exam during that. Anyways,

843
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: we get back to texting celebrities. I really need to

844
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: know who the celebrity was. Is he hot? Well?

845
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: Do you still think it's Michael Bay?

846
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: Oh? I think that was the next guy. I think

847
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: that was whatever celebrity I think is an actor because

848
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: she was like, I was really excited.

849
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: Do you think everyone on the cast knows who the

850
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: celebrity is? Yes, okay, so we're going to ask Janet.

851
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh, we forgot to tell you, guys, Emily met Janet.

852
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: I met Janet and she's lovely by the way, which

853
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: now we don't know if we're biased human beings, Like

854
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: if one of us meets the person and says that

855
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: we like them, then all of a sudden we forget

856
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: all of the bad things that we've said in the past. Yeah,

857
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: and there are new favorites.

858
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: Well, when I met her, I asked her, I said,

859
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 2: how does it feel to be the villain?

860
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: Oh? What she said?

861
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: She goes, I don't know how that happened? And I

862
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: was like, well, you're really good at it.

863
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: Do you know we talked shit? I don't think so, because.

864
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: She agreed to come on, So I feel like she

865
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: doesn't know, so nobody tell her.

866
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: No, Please, guys, don't tell tall the things we've said,

867
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: because this is actually Janet's best episode. By the way,

868
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: Congratulations Janet. I don't know if I feel that way

869
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: because now you're coming on and I like you, or

870
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: if this was really just a good we like Janet.

871
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: We just like to talk shit too. So but then

872
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, we see this happen, and then we see

873
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: Jack's confronting Brittany about throwing up, saying she's the only

874
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: one of the women throwing up. Everyone else is normal.

875
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: Why can't you be? I don't know, like everyone else

876
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: is normal, why can't you be? Like it's very narcissistic,

877
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: well kind.

878
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: Of clearly his delivery, Like I actually feel like he

879
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: has valid points when it comes to the drinking or

880
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: whatever is going on, because we see her get sick

881
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: multiple times, so clearly there's an issue. I don't know

882
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: if it has to do with her ulcer. I don't

883
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: know if she really is dream you too much. I

884
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: don't know if she's only drinking a little. But then,

885
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: but when you're repeatedly getting sick and it ruins your

886
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: entire day and you have to stay in bed, it

887
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: is a problem. I don't disagree with it being a problem,

888
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: but it's the delivery. And we don't know if it's

889
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 2: a drinking. We don't know if it's partying. We don't

890
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: know any of the things. But if you're in a

891
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: situation in your life, in any part of your health,

892
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: where you can't get up and go to work right,

893
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: and it happens multiple time, so you're on notice, you

894
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: know what happens anyway. So I don't disagree with his sentiment,

895
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: I disagree with with how he talks to her.

896
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: With his delivery. And then I also was confused are

897
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: the girls lying for her? Because at first it was

898
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: I drank nothing right, and then it was two, and

899
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: then it was I had two shots. It's always two.

900
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: Do you notice that it's always it's like.

901
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: How many people have you had sex with? Three? Oh?

902
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: Everyone says three? Oh?

903
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: They say three?

904
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many of you had three?

905
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: I always I say two.

906
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: Oh you do? I like to go with three. It

907
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: feels it feels like it was a little bit wild.

908
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: Oh, three is a little bit wild.

909
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I've gotten to the point where

910
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: I watched them. I don't see the love there anymore

911
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: between Brittany and Jackson. Yeah. No, I feel like this

912
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: relationship is done donezo over because you do think. I

913
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: think what she's the most pissed about when he is

914
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: being completely inappropriate and wanting all her friends to talk

915
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: shit about her and throw under the bus, and he's

916
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: clearly had two bottles of tequila and she can't have

917
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: two shots or whatever it may be, is she wants

918
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: him to have her back, and even on national television,

919
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: he won't, right, And that's got to be a really

920
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: And he would have loved it.

921
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: If everybody else would have joined in and talked about it,

922
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: he would he would have like ate it up, He

923
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: would have kept going. He would have been like, you're right,

924
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: and he would have been like it would have been

925
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: even worse. He she's lucky that they were all respected

926
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: her enough to not engage.

927
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: But also at the end of the day, all she

928
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: did was throw up versus where Jesse was physically fighting

929
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: Danny and you know everybody else. I mean, by the end,

930
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: Danny's so drunk he like can't even tell what he's

931
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: upset about. He's like about the thing and wait, is

932
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: that what he was crying? Yeah? Well I was right

933
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: before the cry before they went outside. Michelle goes up

934
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: talks to Jesse. He's in full going out outfit, like

935
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: loafers with no socks all things.

936
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Jesse being on the bottle of

937
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: Trim with Anna Nicole Smith? He was hot, he was hot.

938
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: He's in my DMS right now, is he? Yeah? I

939
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: mean because I have slid into his DMS at the

940
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: beginning of the valley just to say, like, you want

941
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: to come on the pod. But he's now apparently just

942
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: he's realized the plus ninety nine or whatever, and so

943
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, just went deep down in the DMS.

944
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: Happy to come on. I think you've talked to my

945
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: manager and we have buddy, see you soon. We saw

946
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: you looking hot. On the trim spot.

947
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.

948
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: Popular. I don't know it had to be ninety.

949
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: Well, she died in seven, so yeah, did you.

950
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: Ever try trimspaw? Probably? I did. Probably, I've probably done

951
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: it all now they're all cooking. We've gotten through the

952
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: like texting with celebrities, sending sexy photos that okay.

953
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 2: Wait, can I ask you though, do you think jesse

954
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: so do you really think jesse knew everything about Michelle texting?

955
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean she left out the part about her being

956
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: didn't she leave out the part about being accused of

957
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: sending sexy photo?

958
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: Or did she tell him that too? She Jax ended

959
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: up telling him that because I remember immediately He's like Jack's,

960
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to play the game of telephone. I

961
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: think what really is happening, and we'll ask them when

962
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: they're on the pod. I think they were done by then.

963
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

964
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: I think that relationship was done and they're over and

965
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: they're try trying to keep it together and slowly backing

966
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: out of it. Yeah. I think that they're so far done.

967
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't think they're into each other. She cringes when

968
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: he touches her. Yeah, she clearly doesn't even care to

969
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, and he's.

970
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, sure, I knew she was texting slowly.

971
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 1: I'd love to see Edwin be like, yeah, I'm fine

972
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: with Cheddy texting whoever. Like I even tell him when

973
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: I have a DM moment with somebody that's not even sexual.

974
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, just so you know, I was on Oliver

975
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Hudson's podcast and we DM.

976
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: Like, I, oh, you feel like you feel like you

977
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: have to tell me?

978
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then I tell him the joke. Well, Shane

979
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: has access.

980
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: To my instagram, So do you think he goes on

981
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: and looks yeah, because he knows that. Like sometimes all

982
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: like forward like guys working out to like my girlfriends

983
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: will be like.

984
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: Oh he's hot, like the guy with the penis that

985
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: always flops?

986
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: Oh the guy guy, why is it always.

987
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: On my floor? Because I probably forwarded it? All right,

988
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: But then we get to uh, Michelle saying getting kind

989
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: of upset with Nia because Nia didn't stand up for

990
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: the fact I.

991
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: Should understand this. Can you explaining that situation about the

992
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: Santa Clarita? I don't get it?

993
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So I guess Danny is a realist and realizes

994
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: they can only afford a house if they live in

995
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: Santa Clarita. Okay, Michelle said she never heard what Santa

996
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 1: Clarita is. Blah blah blah. Nia said, I wouldn't actually

997
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: want to live in Santa Clarita because I don't want

998
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: to feel like an outcast from my relationship and friends.

999
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: But then Michelle went to show them a house, and

1000
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: Nia in the moment did not say anything bad about

1001
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: the house. I don't think me is going to say

1002
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: something bad about anybody regardless.

1003
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: No, she just doesn't have that kind of personality.

1004
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't think she's going to talk about somebody's house,

1005
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: whether it's in the San Fernando Vouse anything. Well, I

1006
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: know it next week's going to be bad. Something happens

1007
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: between the next week. But I did wonder why the

1008
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: AI was like who triggered you to want to go

1009
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: for Nia? For Nia me yah, like why do you

1010
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: need to go for her? But then the men drunken

1011
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: conversation outside. I don't know that was that was.

1012
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've that was an awkward. First of all,

1013
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: I've been married to Shane for fifteen years. I've never

1014
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: seen him cry, not one time.

1015
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: I've seen a him cry twice. Yes, and something about

1016
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: his mom.

1017
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: See, I think that fifteen years never seen him cry.

1018
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: So watching men sitting around cry was very odd for me.

1019
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: They had been like, damn, I didn't even understand what

1020
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: Danny was crying about because he said he doesn't.

1021
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't have thick skin or something.

1022
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: Not sleeping. I'm in a ting top, it's snowing, like.

1023
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: I think he was just in a rough way. I

1024
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: think somebody probably should have put Danny to bed prior

1025
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: with the babies.

1026
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Danny put his shirt on.

1027
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: You're Binky nine night. But I think Neia didn't realize

1028
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: the level he was at because she was probably.

1029
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: If Nia knew that was going on, she lost her mind.

1030
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: Nia is like, makes me look like I'm casual with control.

1031
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: She would have been like she would have been like

1032
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: right in there because.

1033
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: No more. But then you know, we start to hear

1034
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more about Jesse and Jack's and then

1035
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: this party didn't really get Janet walks outside and Janet

1036
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: was cooking. She is on her baby moon, but she

1037
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: comes out and Jesse kind of loses a ship on her.

1038
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: Because she comes out and tells him dinners ready, how

1039
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: dare you cook?

1040
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: For me pregnant, beyond get back in the kitchen. Where

1041
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: are you? This is? Then instead you're crying, go back.

1042
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: You're giving each other hand jobs because none of his

1043
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: old sex and so long, and you don't mind, and

1044
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: this is going to be bad. But then Janet's husband

1045
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: haven't learned his name yet, maybe the season. Then Janet's husband,

1046
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: we'll just call him Janet's husband. Janet's husband, of course,

1047
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: goes running to her, and he had and the most loved.

1048
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: And I was like, listen, Janet's husband, my husband. I

1049
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: would eat you alive. I would swallow you up, okay,

1050
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: choke you down and torture you. But here's you are

1051
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: so nice and good. Right.

1052
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 2: But here's the question, though, would he genuinely have done

1053
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: that if he wasn't outside with a bunch of douchebags

1054
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: who yell at women.

1055
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think so do you.

1056
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: I think he's like he was like sitting out there

1057
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: with all those guys and Jax's yelling at Brittany and

1058
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: Jesse doesn't like.

1059
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: Michelle, and Danny's crying, and Janet's husband didn't even do that.

1060
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: He was just Janet. He was just sitting there Janet's

1061
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: husband said nothing, I know, but I felt like.

1062
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: He had to go and like redeem himself because he

1063
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: got like he was.

1064
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: Because he was in proximity of assholes. Yes, he's like,

1065
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: I got it. I kind of run in there really

1066
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: fast and apologize. But Janet's husband, he was like ship

1067
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: when baby comes, life's about to be really bad. But

1068
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: he knew what to do. He like or offered her water.

1069
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: But also then I have to throw a little shade

1070
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: because all this talk about cooking dinner. I don't cook

1071
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: a lot, but I can make a freaking burger and

1072
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: a hot dog. I was waiting was elaborate item that

1073
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: took all of this time.

1074
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: Well, I saw them mixing things and.

1075
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: Nobody was eating anything that was mixed. No, I only

1076
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: saw the hot hamburgers and hot dogs. But there I

1077
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: saw with a fine tooth comb was like, where is

1078
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: the item she's been cooking? Because I does she mean

1079
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: prepping because we I'm very particular with I.

1080
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: Don't know, but that's a good question for Janet. Yeah,

1081
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: we want to know the menu. I want to know

1082
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 2: the menu. I want to know what you made.

1083
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: Was there a keen lost salad?

1084
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: We didn't see maybe I feel like maybe there was

1085
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 2: like a pasta salad or something in there.

1086
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, if that's happening. But then Jack's asked the

1087
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: women how much Brittany was drinking on the boat. Brittany

1088
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: comes out from the bedroom. Brittany, I love you. You need

1089
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: different glasses because the fact that they match right where

1090
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: your eyebrow is.

1091
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: Do they cover the eyebrow?

1092
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: There's two eyebrows.

1093
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I see it's like right below the eyebrow.

1094
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: Kline. Like love her, but like we all like I

1095
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: make bad fashion choices. I made one today, but like

1096
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: I need the glasses to shift. Yeah. But she comes

1097
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: out and she's like Jacks Jacks, but yeah, but she

1098
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: emphasizes she does not have a drinking problem. Her body

1099
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: is just turning against her because she's unhappy, which could

1100
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: be true.

1101
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. It might be like stress sickness,

1102
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, do you does something happen to

1103
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: like when I get stressed, I get alopecia, Like I

1104
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: have a bold spot in the back of my head

1105
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: right now, I have roseicia. So maybe hers is like

1106
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: she throws.

1107
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: Up, which I can say, like one of my babies

1108
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: when they were little, when they didn't want to go

1109
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: to bed, and I would put them to sleep and

1110
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: they want to get they would throw up because they

1111
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: knew I would come in immediately if they threw.

1112
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 2: Up, So they made themselves throw up.

1113
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: No, not like gag themselves, but they would be so

1114
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: anxious that then they would like they'd be like, Mom,

1115
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: I want to get up. I want to get up.

1116
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: And but they they grew out of it. But it

1117
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: became like a thing that we had to nurture in

1118
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: a certain way. But it was they were looking for

1119
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: something that we weren't giving them clearly. So I think

1120
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: it could be that, But it also I think the

1121
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: conversation of here's the thing, and this is the bottom

1122
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: line of this episode, Edwin. If I was if I

1123
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: was throwing up ninety percent of the time we were

1124
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: hanging out with our friends while filming being paid, he would.

1125
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: Be upset too, Yeah, totally.

1126
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: But the way he's speaking to her, the way that

1127
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: he's implying that she has a drinking problem, if she

1128
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: has an ulcer, if she has a medical condition, these

1129
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: are things that we should be seeing playing out right now.

1130
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: We need to go to the doctor, we need to

1131
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: do this. We need to figure it out. It shouldn't

1132
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: be now that she's a mother, This shouldn't be happening anymore.

1133
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: Right If this has always happened the duration of your

1134
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: entire marriage, your entire relationship, why do you think it

1135
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: would change now? And then? Also, why do you not

1136
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: have to change what she does?

1137
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: Well, he's never going to change, but he's never going

1138
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: to think he needs to change.

1139
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: But also he thinks he's she's never going to leave him,

1140
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: and now we know she has right, do you think

1141
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: she's still gone or do you think she's going to

1142
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: take him back?

1143
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I don't know. She posted that photo of

1144
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 2: her Did you see that on her Instagram? The most

1145
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: recent post she did where it said what did it say,

1146
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: like if my boyfriend's out of town or something?

1147
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't really know what I've been casting together.

1148
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: They're together all the time.

1149
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: They'll probably get back together.

1150
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: I feel like they're going to get back to I

1151
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: think she unless maybe they are back together. I don't know, Well,

1152
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: who knows.

1153
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what he means by she'll never leave me, Like,

1154
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 2: even if she does leave, it's never gonna last because

1155
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: she's always gonna come back.

1156
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: But I think what can be true is that if

1157
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: you're in a relationship with a jack sorry we love

1158
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: you on television, but with a narcissist and they continuously

1159
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: break you down and make you feel like you're not enough,

1160
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: they do have a way of always getting you back

1161
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: because they have torn you down for so many years

1162
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: that you really feel like you're not enough. And I

1163
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: think that's as much as she's upset with the way

1164
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: he's talking to her, I think she's also upset that

1165
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: she's not enough for him, and that's I mean, that's trauma, right.

1166
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: So you're saying, as long as she always feels that way,

1167
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 2: she'll always go back.

1168
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's really hard to not go back

1169
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: if you feel like you still have more to give

1170
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: if you didn't do yeah.

1171
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: Nothing, And it's hard when you have children together too.

1172
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you think about Zach posting Instagram story

1173
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: with big Bear location?

1174
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, I didn't find that like the

1175
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: least bit funny, And then I didn't understand why Janet

1176
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't sleep that night because she was like, well,

1177
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: she was worried he was like in the bushes or

1178
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: something like he was gonna jump out and scared.

1179
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: Like he was going to be there next to laser

1180
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: coming in.

1181
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: It made that whole thing made no sense to me.

1182
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: I want to know how closes Zach and Janet actually

1183
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: were before filming, because I haven't really seen very much

1184
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: closeness with them, and I was talking about each other. Yeah,

1185
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: so I feel like they must have had a closer

1186
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: relationship leading into this than that we're seeing. But also

1187
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't want to do that spat day

1188
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: at Christen's, Like, I don't want to come over to

1189
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: your house, No, with all the dogs. I mean, I

1190
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: love dogs, but like I don't want. I don't want.

1191
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 2: I don't want while my dogs are No, I don't.

1192
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: Try to buy an Amazon foot spot and then have

1193
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: me stick my feet into lukewarm water. I just kept

1194
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: thinking about all the dog hair that's in that water,

1195
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: also the shap all of it. I didn't want any

1196
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: of it. I didn't want that spa day, But I

1197
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 1: also didn't want to be in Big Bear. Why do

1198
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: you think they couldn't have actually gone to a spot? Well,

1199
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: I had to google it was this during COVID, but

1200
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't.

1201
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: I thought it was four years ago.

1202
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: I thought maybe they filmed or they couldn't go anywhere.

1203
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: You have to realize, like why else would you not?

1204
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: Is the only place you can get a permit is

1205
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: like Kristen's apartment, I guess, so that's the only place

1206
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: they've had her film and she's been in the same

1207
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: T shirt the whole damn time. I know it's been

1208
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: rough for Kristen, but either way, between the two pey

1209
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: and all the things, then we get to the men going.

1210
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: The men fishing. I like Jesse saying that he likes

1211
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: renaissance women, not women with abs, and then he's talking

1212
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: about how Michelle isn't like that, like she's not considered

1213
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 2: that type of renaissance woman.

1214
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: I guess because she's thin. Well, he said she didn't

1215
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: used to always be this way. When I met her,

1216
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: she was bigger. I don't know exactly what he met,

1217
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: but I think her watching it back, she was definitely

1218
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: like dide, he just me fat. I'll send him nudes

1219
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: only if he's richer.

1220
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: But it gets a new personality.

1221
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: But then Danny says he's only ever been with short

1222
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: women because he has Napoleon complex. Then they get a

1223
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: whole fight about Napoleon complex.

1224
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Napoleon complex is just like I always see, he's five seven. Yes,

1225
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: he has a big attitude. He totally has a Napoleon complex.

1226
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: Dinger.

1227
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: It's it's very nice size considering he's five to seven.

1228
00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: Yes, he's very well in dowed. I'll ask Gina, Oh

1229
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: my goodness, my gosh. But this is where Jesse says

1230
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: Neo wears the pants and her and Danny's relationship. Jesse says,

1231
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: Jax is always trying to prove himself and he doesn't

1232
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: need to prove what. I don't actually remember him saying that.

1233
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, but Jesse has a lot to say

1234
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: about other people's complexes and relationships and like he's like

1235
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: the psychologists of the group.

1236
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: Well, I love that he's like JACKX, you know you

1237
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: should be asking me about this part of the relationship,

1238
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, like this happening relationship. And at first I

1239
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: didn't agree with him, and I agreed with Janet's husband,

1240
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: where like you're the last person, You're the last person

1241
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: he asked, But actually he is, like I've already ked

1242
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: all this up, Like if you want a chance of survival,

1243
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: do all of the things opposite than what I do, right,

1244
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: But Jack's pretty much just stepped in it there, and yeah,

1245
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: that's all that. They're done. He's just said he needs

1246
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: to read the signs before it's too late.

1247
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: He says he misspoke. His marriage is far from being

1248
00:59:58,960 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: on the fence.

1249
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: Did you think about that makeup apology the next day

1250
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: with the kissing and the I'm sorry but Jack's still

1251
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: in the sweatshirt.

1252
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: I felt like it was just like the obligatory We

1253
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: got in a fight, so now we have to continue

1254
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: on a story on camera. So now it's like, Okay,

1255
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: now we have to talk because we're obligated to talk

1256
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: about it. So he said what he should say, I'm

1257
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: sorry about that. I shouldn't have said that, and she's like, yeah,

1258
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: you were wrong, but I forgive you, and then let's

1259
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: have some beer cheese, and then that was the end. Yeah,

1260
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: I know, I wish I kind of need to talk

1261
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: to her. Yeah, do DM do you get in her DMS?

1262
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: No, I don't. We have never had like that. No, Well,

1263
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I could try. She's from Indiana. I'm

1264
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: from Ohio, so I'm from Indiana and she's still.

1265
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: Oh, well, maybe maybe she does.

1266
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: Maybe she hates me as much as you. No, no, impossible.

1267
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: Well that's a round, guys, enjoyed. Gina and uh Emily, Emily, Emily?

1268
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: Is that?

1269
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: And that that other girl?

1270
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: Another girl? Hopefully they'll do do us justice next week.

1271
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks guys, thanks for listening. M m

1272
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: hm hm