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Speaker 1: the NFL. I did get a lot of sun Palm Springs.

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Speaker 1: Take that personally, and I took that person. Dan Hans

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Speaker 1: is here with one hero, Mark Sessler. How are you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good now. You know you do not partake

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Speaker 1: And the sun where I was in Palm Springs is

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Speaker 1: who else was staying at the hotel Our old friend

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Speaker 1: from the NFL Media Talent Summit, Tory spelling with her family.

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Speaker 1: That's great, that's all. I wouldn't know if I call

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Speaker 1: How are you, Mark? I am fine. I heard the

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Speaker 1: cask cast went off very well. I m think that

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Speaker 1: I learned that your job, some of the particulars around

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Speaker 1: what you do are are tough. Um, like the hours

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Speaker 1: so battling some things. But are you in the power chair?

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Speaker 1: I did sit there. Did you make a lot of

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Speaker 1: nice to be able just to see Grave Digger, who

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Speaker 1: I heard you went to Hawaii and the weather wasn't

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Speaker 1: rainier than typical Hawaii. I would say I got banged,

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Speaker 1: they've become so entwined Mark that he'll say alone, but

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Speaker 1: burning too brightly could lead to issues down the line

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Speaker 1: both of you. Thank you, well done, well done. You

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Speaker 1: show all right today's show good one. Uh. Greg is

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Speaker 1: is a great call from our friend JB. Long, voice

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Speaker 1: of the Rams. And that was Odell Beckham in the

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Speaker 1: like Matt Rule. Sometimes it goes terribly, which I almost

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Speaker 1: would put Kingsbury in that category. But then they go

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Speaker 1: home to college and you know, life's okay. Works with

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, I mean, we just had a letter from

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, a penpal letter on our last episode, and

431
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Speaker 1: then within days he resurfaces from the Far East and

432
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Speaker 1: gets the new jobs. Yeah. Connect the dots and finally

433
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Speaker 1: in the news, Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback, great quarterback.

434
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Speaker 1: I liked him. He was like your prototypical pocket passer

435
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Speaker 1: of the Oughts, That's what I would call him. I

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Speaker 1: loved It's like Cardinals run as much as anything else. Sure, yeah,

437
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Speaker 1: really good player. And I'll never forget being at the

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Speaker 1: All or Nothing Premier in Hollywood with our friend Jason

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Speaker 1: Zumwaldt and seeing Carson Palmer belly up at the bar

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Speaker 1: drinking bud heavies the sun and everyone kind of orbiting

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Speaker 1: around him, check it in and just total control of

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Speaker 1: the room. That's that QB energy. Anyway, I like Palmer,

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Speaker 1: but I don't like his comments on quarterbacks and the

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Speaker 1: idea that Patrick Mahomes is not the best quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the league. It's the guy that plays for Cincinnati. Now,

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00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: I think Joe's the best quarterback in the league, and

447
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: I think I know Patrick is phenomenal, but but I

448
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Speaker 1: just think Joe's more consistent. Joe is just there talking

449
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Speaker 1: about not having a weakness mentally strong, physically tall, accurate,

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Speaker 1: can throw it, fire enough, fast enough, gets the ball

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Speaker 1: out quick, and then he can actually do a lot

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Speaker 1: with his legs. He just rarely shows it and it's

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Speaker 1: not I think he's his athletic outside the pocket with

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Speaker 1: you know, and can do a lot of the same

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Speaker 1: things Patrick Mahomes has done. He hasn't done it and

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Speaker 1: showed it yet. He's played more within his system and style.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's the best quarterback in the league. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So mark Um, we gotta stop doing this. I mean

459
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Speaker 1: I did it. I did it in January, but I

460
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: learned my lesson, as we all have. We should at

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Speaker 1: this point, Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is the Super Bowl MVP. Patrick Mahomes proved

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Speaker 1: it by beating Joe Burrow's team on the path to

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And until Patrick Mahomes has proven that

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Speaker 1: he is not that guy, we got to start stop

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Speaker 1: trying to crown other guys. Mahomes like twenty six years old.

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Speaker 1: Where everything he said about Burrow is true? Yes, except

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Speaker 1: why where if he says, you know, he's he has

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Speaker 1: no inconsistency, he's more consistent, Like, show me Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: is inconsistencies right, show me like if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna count or anything that is there anything that he

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Speaker 1: mentioned about Burrow that's less true of Mahomes. It's more

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Speaker 1: true of Mahomes. So my other comment watching the video,

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Speaker 1: if you watched on YouTube, is that Jordan Palmer they

475
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: look very much alike, the two brothers. Yes, Jordan Palmer

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Speaker 1: looks like if Carson Palmer just colored his beard hair

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Speaker 1: and went back on camera, right, less kind of younger.

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00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, what is the credit? They do a podcast together?

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00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: Is that it, buddy boy? Yes, it's called the qb Room.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Jordan Palmer's podcast and Carson was on

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Speaker 1: and listen, Jordan and Carson know more about the quarterback

482
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Speaker 1: position than in there like Pinky Nail, than Mark and I.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes you just come on, let's not do this anymore.

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00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: Just don't target Mahomes. Just go anywhere else. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break. That's what's happening in the news,

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Speaker 1: and our good bud counter ore up next. Hey you

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Speaker 1: for your ears only, Welcome back two around the NFL

488
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Speaker 1: Irresponsible Conspiracy Theories conversation. This goes all the way to

489
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: the top. And if we're going to do a segment

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Speaker 1: on conspiracy theories that are slightly irresponsible, maybe maybe factual

491
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: because we got a real journal in our midst A

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Speaker 1: long time friend and former colleague. Of course we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Connor or what's up, buddy? Hello, friends, Hello, what's up?

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00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: You're wearing a hat hat guy now full time hat

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Speaker 1: guy honors looking good. Every time I see Connor's looking

496
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Speaker 1: more fit than the last time I saw Connor is

497
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Speaker 1: We saw him at the super Bowl, And I'm just

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Speaker 1: kind of in awe of the man. Not that you've

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Speaker 1: transformed yourself, but I feel like, just as you've evolved

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Speaker 1: is the better way. Connor's at the point where he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I eat one meal day and I rutten fourteen miles

502
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Speaker 1: every morning at six, and I spend seven hours with

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Speaker 1: my kids, and then I do hardcore journal reporting anchoring

504
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: the greatest sports publication that's ever existed, just like I

505
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: have a mortgage. It's just like, the guy has got

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00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: his stuff figured out. And it's that that you didn't

507
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: have your stuff figured out when we first knew you.

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00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: But you've been a man that's evolved on a path

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00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: that we could all respect. You're like a star athlete

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00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: because you're like twenty seven or something. What are you

511
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: going to do when you're thirty eight and you've already

512
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: done all this stuff. Play baseball for the Birmingham Barons, Yeah,

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00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, obviously tryout for the Mets. I

514
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: think that's the next move. You're excited about that? That?

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Speaker 1: What had are we wearing today? What is that? So this, uh,

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00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: this is a good story. So this is an Arizona

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00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: State hat. And I had to purchase this on the fly.

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00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: I was the poor reporter for the Chiefs during the

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00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and this was my first Super Bowl as

520
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: a bald, as a as a ballicly challenged. You've made

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00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: the decision to take it down to the base, and

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00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: that's an issue. And our good friend, or a late friend,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, we learned some from him about that, the

524
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Speaker 1: importance to protect the dome when you do hit that

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Speaker 1: road in life. So I didn't. I guess I don't

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Speaker 1: know why. I thought Arizona would be not a yeah,

527
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: but standing there and when you're the poor reporter, you know,

528
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: you really you have to be so locked in and

529
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: you have to take attendance. But the team doesn't want

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Speaker 1: you to take attendance, and so they're not going to

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00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: tell you who's not there, and they're not going to

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Speaker 1: give you a roster. And so I had like thirty

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Speaker 1: pages printed off the team website that you're frantically trying

534
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: to cross off to make sure that everyone's there. All

535
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: the while, the sun is just burning a hole in

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Speaker 1: my head, like and I left practice, and I took

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Speaker 1: a shower, and I felt like someone had split my

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Speaker 1: head open with the axe. So the next day I

539
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: told Andy Reid. I was like, Buddy, I had to

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00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: go get a hat. What big Andy said? What a

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00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: big red Sid probably just say, oh yeah, yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah, sure, sure She'm gonna go in Super Bowl, okay, exactly,

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00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 1: all right, Well, I'm glad that you're you're protecting yourself

544
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: in that way. And uh, you know, because we're talking

545
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: to conspiracy theories, we knew you had. We had to

546
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: have Connor back on the show. Do you want to

547
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: get us gone? Do you want to throw? And again,

548
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: these are somewhat irresponsible in some cases conspiracy theories, but

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00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: we know from talking with Connor that maybe in some

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00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: cases there are conspiracy theories that are rooted in fact. Sure,

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00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if we want to save that one,

552
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: Connor or you know you tell me, but I know

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00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: you have some type of exclusive for around the NFL,

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00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: perhaps later on in the seg Yeah, I'm gonna save

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00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: that one for the end. I have a true conspiracy

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00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: theory that just for you guys, I have confirmed an exclusive.

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Speaker 1: All right, Okay, why don't you get us gone? Though?

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00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: Was something a little less concrete? Um? Well, I think

559
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: when you look at it, as everything does in the NFL,

560
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: where all the bodies are buried, where all the blood

561
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: is stored, it all goes back to the Manning family.

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00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 1: And there are currently four members of the Manning family

563
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Speaker 1: who are shadow gms for various NFL franchises, two of

564
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: which are the Packers and the Steelers. The plan would

565
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: obviously be to have the little Manning child who's in

566
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Speaker 1: Texas pipelined to one of the elite franchises, just like

567
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: they did with Eli and the Giants, restore that franchise

568
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Speaker 1: to glory and further solidify their vice grip on the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So your franks as seventeen year old Arch Manning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I forgot his name for a second, I knew it

571
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Speaker 1: was something silly. Yes, it's Arch, Yeah, the little the

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Speaker 1: little Manning boy yes, interest. Well, so hold on, So

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Speaker 1: that's there are three other teams currently, are we saying that?

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Speaker 1: Are you saying that Peyton and Eli are two of

575
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Speaker 1: these gms? I think I think I think Olivia is

576
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Speaker 1: heavily involved. Heavily Yeah, yeah, I mean Olivia, like the

577
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Speaker 1: mother is obviously um, the grandmother like um do you

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Speaker 1: ever see um, oh god, um, the ozarks, the like

579
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the region of the country the program. Now, I watched

580
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: season one and then a lot gone. I'm not gonna

581
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: spoil anything here, but I think that there is certainly

582
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: an overlooked aspect to many criminal enterprises. The maternal figure

583
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: is center and very powerful, like the eldest matriarch. And

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Speaker 1: I do think that the arch's grandmother holds some serious

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00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: weight here. I like that. So, but just in terms

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Speaker 1: of being a we got Eli, Peyton, Cooper is the

587
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: patriarch Archie Archie would be right. Well, I think I

588
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: think Cooper's obviously too close, right, and so you'd need

589
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: him a step removed, which is why you know you

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00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: you would have the grandmother sort of making a lot

591
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: of the heavy hitting. She's like the kingmaker. I got it, absolutely. Yeah, Well,

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00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: they're great Thespians, then two because they come across a

593
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: sort of an affable like punch you in the shoulder

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00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: brother Duo on ESPN, and then suddenly they're doing that

595
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Is like Eli, like the bagman. Is

596
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: he the one that's really you wouldn't think, but he's

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00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: the one that's, you know, when the trash needs to

598
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: be taken out. He's prominently involved, no doubt. And I

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00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: think this is where the definitely where the arrows and

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00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: the dots were connected. For me, I was at a

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Speaker 1: bank the other day, inside the inside the banks. I

602
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: was inside a bank headquarters the day and gigantic photo

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Speaker 1: of Eli Manning doing some sort of generic business deal.

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00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and this stuff obviously was you know, this

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00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: isn't public facing stuff. And so I do think that

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00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: there are there are some breadcrumbs out there, certainly, I

607
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: mean the blood money you can see it dripping from

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Speaker 1: the bottom of that sack. I mean, the Eli Manning

609
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Speaker 1: bank photo has to be my favorite part of this

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Speaker 1: entire thing. All right, that's a good one. That's a

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00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: good way to start things off. Mark, you want to

612
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: share something. I know that Connor has some Cardinals esque

613
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: themes here. And I wonder if we're digging into some

614
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: similar stuff. I want to just present what I've been

615
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: working with here. This is not this does not even

616
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: feel like a conspiracy theory. But the Cardinals to me

617
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: feel like the NFL's next great tank job where they

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00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: brought in Jonathan Gannon with a promise of like, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to want and done you. You're going to

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00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: go through utter hell for the next season plus. But

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Speaker 1: my theory is that Kyler Murray will never play another

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Speaker 1: snap for the Cardinals, that they are that the last

623
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: thing they want to do is have Kyler Murray come

624
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Speaker 1: back from his ACL injury and guide the team to

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00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: victories when they're truly aiming for the bottom of the barrel.

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Speaker 1: I think that inside the building there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: different sort of a KA titles for this operation Red

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00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: Dawn by those who were around in the eighties, but

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Speaker 1: Scarlet Apocalypse, and then this is rising up Little Red

630
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Riding Hood is now an adult, and I just think

631
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: it speaks to the phases of this program. And then

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00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to me, is absolutely my number one targeted

633
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: trade bait for middle of the next season. Why when

634
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: it's apparent that he's healthy again or after next season.

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00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: But I do not think he'll ever play another snap

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00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals ever again. Shoo shoo, shoo shoe. So

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Speaker 1: the plan, I think you move all assets to number one.

638
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, they're interested in trading the number three pick. Well,

639
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: I think that's happening first of all, because you're gonna

640
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: get all you can, and then you trade your franchise

641
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: quarterback because once he paired with the whole vision was

642
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler Murray. Are you know two p's

643
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: in a pod, like they can just do this thing together.

644
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: They know each other so well, and it failed epically.

645
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think the Kyler Murray experience in general

646
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: is made for a two to three season trip into

647
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: deep hell on any level. I don't think that's how

648
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: he's built from the neck up. And I think you

649
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: hit the ejector seat, get all you can over the

650
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: next two seasons, and rebirth yourself as a new Arizona

651
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals Tea Connor, you you cover the league for Monday

652
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: win a quarterback? Sports Illustrated. Is there smoke and fire

653
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: here to this conspiracy theory that the Cardinals want to

654
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: go too in fifteen and they want to blow up

655
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: the entire the entire thing. Are you hearing anything like

656
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: that out there? Well, it's funny. I did um which

657
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: was not wasn't very well received. But I did an

658
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: article the other day called the the five teams who

659
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: need to tank for Caleb Williams, and the Cardinals were

660
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: number two on my list. Because now, this isn't what

661
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: I had prepared for today. But I do think I

662
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: think you're right, Mark. I think that Caleb Williams and

663
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: Drake Maine particular are generational level QB prospects. And you

664
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: know you're not going to be able to do it

665
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: this year because Kyler is not healthy. Probably aren't going

666
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: to be able to trade him until like right before

667
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: the trade deadline if you want it to, or obviously

668
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: early next year. So I do think it's a complete

669
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: asset dump, and it would it would gibe theoretically with

670
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, you saw a lot of

671
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: revolving door stuff with that coaching search, right, a lot

672
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: of guys coming in and a lot of people saying, well,

673
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: I'll take my chances anywhere else in the world than this,

674
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny small world or perhaps another

675
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: red string here Cliff Kingsbury now on that coaching staff

676
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: at USC Williams. I don't know that's odd. I'm just

677
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: you put it on the board with the red string

678
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: and you leave it there and maybe it connects back

679
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: to something else. I don't know. Let's do another one.

680
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: I just add I just want to read what I

681
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: had written down, because fairly I didn't. I didn't take

682
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: the assignment as usual. This happened. Um, I just have

683
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: written down in my notes. Um, the burner phones had

684
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Steve Kime, the franchise is affront

685
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: for the modern Genovese family. And then I just have

686
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: I just have three other sentences. Well, I guess like

687
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: two other thoughts here. It was wind Energy um, and

688
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: then um and am I allowed to I know I

689
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: wasn't in the past, But am I allowed to name

690
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: a large cell phone carrier on this podcast? Should go

691
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: for it? And then obviously Verizon wind Energy. That's all

692
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: that's all in there. So UM, you know, I think

693
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: you can see that that's a responsible conspiracy. Yeah. And

694
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: by the way, you're right on target with the exercises goal,

695
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: which is to make people think and again, get some

696
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: red string on the board and we see what connects what.

697
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: Don't laugh when you see this on pro Publica in

698
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: like six months. That's all I'm saying. Let's head to

699
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: New England. Let's know it, and um Connor, I'd love

700
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts because I think you have a

701
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: theory there as well. But I'll start things off. You know,

702
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: there's way too much smoke here with this Bellchaft Belcheck

703
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: Craft Mac situation. There's gotta be some fire. There's gotta

704
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: be fire. That's my walking there to be fire. It's fine.

705
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: It's a six out of ten tops anyway. So what's

706
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: going on. My theory is that it's an all out

707
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: war behind the scenes on the Patriot Way right now

708
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: and Craft. Bob Kraft is eighty one years old, and

709
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: he's looking toward a final chapter of his Hall of

710
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: Fame ownership career. And I think he's looking at it

711
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: without Bill Belichick in mind, just as Bill a few

712
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: years back was thinking about the next phase for his

713
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: career without Tom Brady, and how do I best put

714
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: myself in position to be a success and cement my legacy.

715
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: I think Craft is now doing the same thing. In

716
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: his mind. And as for Bill, I believe and one

717
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: can surely understand his side of this that after six

718
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: titles and nine Super Bowl appearances, that should be enough

719
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: to have total control of the football operations, especially at

720
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: the game's most important position. But Bill wants a new quarterback.

721
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: I think the reporting out there that I think Floria

722
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: PFT had reported that he had put Mac Jones on

723
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: the market, the report that we heard, and Tom Kern,

724
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: who was a guy that we trust around here, said

725
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: how Belichick was quote pissed off that Mac had went

726
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: outside the building and talked to his old Alabama coaches

727
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: figuring out how to fix the offense under Matt Patricia

728
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: who was completely underwater. And Mac didn't hide how frustrated

729
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: he was by that, And I think that showed up Belichick.

730
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Remember Bill Belichick bench Malcolm Butler was it in the

731
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against the Eagles. We still don't even know

732
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: why he did something to tick him off or challenge

733
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: him in some way or another. I think that's a

734
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: major issue. So anyway Bill wants a new QB, craft

735
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: is throwing up roadblocks, and I think in the end,

736
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: one way or the other, it almost certainly will bring

737
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: down the curtain on a historic partnership between these two men. Really,

738
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Speaker 1: no matter what happens this year, I think this is

739
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: it for check and Craft. I love it, and I

740
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: do think that before I kind of get to the

741
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: meat and potatoes behind it, I do think that he

742
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: deserves the right to be old, ineffective and ineffective. And

743
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: I just think I think there's something very American at

744
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: stake here, you know, in this whole thing where, you know,

745
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see a seventy year old

746
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: man get pushed off the assembly line because he's just

747
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: a little slow. And I likened it to I wrote

748
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: a calumn about this, like, imagine you just have a

749
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, you're a legendary pizza maker and you've built

750
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: this successful business and yeah, okay, now a couple of

751
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: crusts are burned every now and then, and you're just

752
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: gonna You're just gonna throw this guy in the middle

753
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: of the street. I mean, if Bill Belichick, if I

754
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: were the owner of the Patriots, and Bill Belichick said,

755
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: I want all my lacrosse buddies from and over high

756
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: school to make up the entirety of the coaching staff

757
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: and between the first and second quarters of every game.

758
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to just sit at a white folding table

759
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: and have a cappuccino on the sideline without my headset on.

760
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: I'd say, go for it. I mean, you've earned it.

761
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: There has to be this like there has to be

762
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: something to aspire to in terms of like being able

763
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: to slack off and be lazy. And I feel like

764
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has earned that right, like senior itis as

765
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: a high school student. You've yeah, you've earned that right

766
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: to kind of not work as hard. Now, Mark, I

767
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: guess the ownership is going to have a different viewpoint

768
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: on that, especially though, and I think they might. There's

769
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: ego involved here, and I think and we've talked about

770
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: it with Greg, like Kraft wants a piece of this

771
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: legacy that it was him as well, not just Tom

772
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: and Bill, it's me And that's why that was rose.

773
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: We're not going to play it. I've asked Justin to

774
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: pull it, but sorry, justin those comments that that Kraft

775
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: made basically putting it out there that it felt like

776
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: it was winner playoffs or else for Bell, it just

777
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: felt so strange because who we're talking about. Yeah, I

778
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: lost sandwich A sandwich prop years ago suggesting that Bill

779
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: Belichick would secretly meet with the New York Giants during

780
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: an impass in that franchise is coaching tumult and just

781
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: join up with the There was the clips of him

782
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: walking through the meadowlands in the complex and just like

783
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: shedding a tear over those old Giants memories and the

784
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: pictures on the wall, And it just seems like there

785
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: isn't any given Sunday Alpacino type scenario where Belichick, who

786
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: people are ready to write off, goes to Team B

787
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: with quarterback X and starts all over and proves everyone wrong.

788
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: Because I don't really take him to be a lost

789
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: old dottering man quite yet. I think that the Patriots

790
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: had just hit a part of their history where they're

791
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: in a down cycle and he's not putting up with

792
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: I think mac Jones is not on this roster come

793
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: week one at this point, that seems almost real to me. Wow, hey, Connor,

794
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: what about the idea, By the way, you know Wickersham,

795
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: who's a competitor of yours, let's be honest, ESPN investigative

796
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: reporters licking his chops. He wants to have the long

797
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: form breaking down this war that according to this irresponsible

798
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory is going on actively. You kind of have

799
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: a leg up now because we're having this almost thought

800
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: exercise beating Wickersham to market it. I mean it nothing

801
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: makes me feel better, and you know, I'll just I'll

802
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: just drop this on him, you know. All along, I

803
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: think that Belichick's plan has been to buy the Patriots

804
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: from Robert craft Um by using his connections to you know,

805
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: like he's amassing a small fortune via Nantucket real estate.

806
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: And I think that also has some prior connections unknown

807
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: with a Croatian chemicals and plastics company, can be used

808
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: to devalue the product of craft foods and craft enterprises

809
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: to the point where you would you'd be able to

810
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: lower the sale price and then sort of yank it

811
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: from him and then and there just a race craft

812
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: off when we when we discussed this segment, I am

813
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: the one that got the entire thing wrong because I

814
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: read it as completely responsible conspiracy theories. Oh no, irresponsible.

815
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean I would say that I have come up

816
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: with a laundry list of responsible ones. And I'm listening

817
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: to what Connor has done. I'm just like, I'm just

818
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: a listener to the show. At this point and enjoying it.

819
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean I could just I could double check to

820
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: make sure I didn't have a typo in the tech No,

821
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: I because I classically gets I did come up with

822
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: two quick hitters that Connor, I think you might like this.

823
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: Can I just say on the point that because the

824
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: one name Tucket business was not Yeah, we're gonna get

825
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: to that. I just want to say the thing that

826
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: was like, how does it work for Bill Belichick because

827
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: he's not he's not a B billionaire, but you're saying

828
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: to depress the assets and craft enterprise market to the

829
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: point where where he exits the B club, and then

830
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: that opens the door perhaps for some type of bear

831
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: hug backed by he would be he would be just

832
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: backed by I mean I I you know, I said

833
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: obviously the Croatian chemical and plastic community. I think because

834
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: I think that not a lot of people were talking

835
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: about that that aspect of it for sure. And Nantucket

836
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: mark well, no, he mentioned Belichick's nantuckets. You know, HiT's

837
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: Nantucket connections, and there's a lot of money up there.

838
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: I would not real estate like during the pandemic. I

839
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if he had sold

840
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: six or seven multimillion dollar properties. You know, interesting food

841
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: for thought. By the way, here was the text yesterday

842
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: at eleven twenty six Connor or will join us tomorrow? Um,

843
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: irresponsible but feasible conspiracy theories. Okay, this is the second part.

844
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: I think there's there's some money, some money of intentions there,

845
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: but I mean it's created and fascinating. There's nothing that

846
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: Connor is thrown out there, the Croatia part maybe, but

847
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: like otherwise, it's fairly feasible. Everything that's been thrown out

848
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: there's I am. It's starting to bridge a gap logically

849
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: to me with each of these things. Now we're talking

850
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: how the saucage gets made. Oh all right, let's pause

851
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 1: right here and we'll be right back with more conspiracy theories.

852
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: All right, we're back, Uh, Connor, who's up? Do you

853
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: want to go again? Mark? I had two quick ones, Connor,

854
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: I wonder if you would buy into this, and it's

855
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: just one single sentence. Well, the first one was from

856
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven to nineteen ninety six, the Lombardi Trophy

857
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: was secretly made of cocaine. But that that does not

858
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: fall under feasible. But how about this. I believe that

859
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: the inside, like if you cracked it open like a

860
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: cadberry egg, well, you can do incredible things with the

861
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: processing of a cocaine. You can make furniture out of it,

862
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: all sorts of things. So I just think it was

863
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: kind of like a big, big few to everyone that

864
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: that's sort of what was going on for a moment

865
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: in time, And like eighty seven, especially those eighty nine

866
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: nine ers um, I think that the owners have a

867
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: second secret owners meeting that none of us ever hear about,

868
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: kind of like you know, out on that island with

869
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: the Largemian growth, Yes, like a similar situation where it's

870
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: like that's how they're always figuring out what to do together,

871
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: and they're in lockstep, and it's not happening at the

872
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: little one where there's a bunch of nerdy reporters running

873
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: around trying to spy in the lomp at dinner and stuff.

874
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, no, away from all these little

875
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: scribes and people and anyone else and just have our

876
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: own secret gathering, kind of like skull and Bones at Yale.

877
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: I think so. And I know what, I don't think

878
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: there's any doubt. Can I throw just a little. I

879
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: don't think all the owners are allowed. I don't think

880
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: the hassles have been invited of late. I think it's

881
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: it's it's the cream of the crop. It's the real

882
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: disruptors and the ones who make the product. Absolutely, it's

883
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: just like a big billboard that's like eleven dollars beers

884
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: a no guaranteed contract. Yeah, who leads it? Who is it? Jara?

885
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: I would think he'd be at the top of the list,

886
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: Like there's got to be someone with the gavel. Who's

887
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: got the ga Mark Murphy? Definitely not Mark Murphy. Uh,

888
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: that's good, Yes, Mark Murphy. The meeting is a journ

889
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: power players of the universe. Connor give us another one? Okay,

890
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: so this is the true one. You're ready for this?

891
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: Are we ready for something? So? Yeah, we're ready? All right?

892
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: Nice little plug for SI dot com because you can

893
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: read about this later this week. Okay. I have confirmed

894
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: via ancestry dot com that there is an actual bloodline

895
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: descendant of a Norse god who is flaming his way

896
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: onto draft boards everywhere and by next week will be

897
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: one of the hottest names in the draft. Let's hear it.

898
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: Who is it? Actually, you're gonna have to You're gonna

899
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: have to go to SI dot com on Friday telling

900
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: you it boom but Norse and stress ancestry actual wow,

901
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: like actual Norse god level bloodline God. When you see

902
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: this player, does it surprise you to learn that Connor

903
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: like this person looks like a Viking, like an absolute

904
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: kind of yours? Is he a skill player? When you

905
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: know what I save it for? Then Friday SI dot

906
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: com slash NFL some point this week. That's a that's

907
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: a fucking plog, dude, bottom. That might be one of

908
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: the best plugs in the history of the show. Doneft episodes.

909
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: He just did a multi day teaser involving a potential

910
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: godlike figure entering our league. I wanted to the numbers

911
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: on that article, that blog post, mostly because I I

912
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: don't know when it's running yet. But yeah, yeah, let's

913
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: see I have a few more. Elway didn't jump. He

914
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: was pushed Onny Romo was quiet quitting the boot. No,

915
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: let's go with this one. What are the Raiders thinking

916
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: at quarterback? They signed Jimmy g and let Derek Carr go?

917
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: All right, that's fine, whatever, save some money. Kind of

918
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: got the same quarterback. Whatever, Then they let a compelling

919
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: backup in Jared Stidham go to a division rival on

920
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: the first day of free agency. That's a little bit weird.

921
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: Have you got Jimmy ge Guys like the most injury

922
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: prone quarterback in the league, and we got a quarterback

923
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: that we like in the building that threw for three

924
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: sixty five and three against Niners on New Year's Day?

925
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: Just let him go? Why? Oh, because they had someone

926
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: else they liked better. Brian Hoyer. He's like four hundred

927
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: years old, Josh McDaniel's favorite. Of course, he's actually thirty seven.

928
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: But clearly he's in the you know, i'm a coach

929
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: on the field, third string guy phase of his career,

930
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: which is a nice place to be. I know you

931
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: like Brian Hoyer Mark I do as a person, but

932
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: that's you know, let's be let's be serious. He's not

933
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: an actual number two in our league at this point.

934
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: They have four picks in the top one hundred, and

935
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: I think they know that they have enough roster holes

936
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: that they want to use that to build up the

937
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: roster outside their quarterback room. So how about this, They're

938
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy g contingency plan. It's hiding in plain sight. It's

939
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: a guy. It's where I don't know where home is,

940
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: but it's still he's working out somewhere and he's doing

941
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: the football exercises and eating right. Tom Brady is ready

942
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: for the call in October when Jimmy G breaks his ankle,

943
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: and I don't want that to happen, or if Jimmy

944
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: G goes down Josh McDaniels, Tom Brady, it's happening. That's

945
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: their backup plan. He is their backup quarterback. There was

946
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: there was a lot of buzz to Tom Brady to

947
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders back then before he retired. I don't think

948
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: that's a that's a I like that, and I if

949
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: they I'll be wrong. Of course, if they go and

950
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: take a quarterback high in this draft, I'm wrong, and

951
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: I'll raise my hand and say, hey, this conspiracy theory

952
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: was irresponsible. No, I'm kidding. I'll never mention this again.

953
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: But if they don't draft a quarterback book it, it

954
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: is Brady, through phone calls and back channels, who is

955
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: the guy that will be ready to step into the lineup.

956
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: He'll know the offense, he'll be in contact with McDaniel's

957
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: throughout this summer and into the fall. Who is that

958
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: guy who steps in if Garoppolo's body betrays him once more.

959
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: It's I think that we all assume, and maybe even

960
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady thinks he retired, But you don't actually retire

961
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: until like the Raiders or the Titans or one of

962
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: these teams that's like six and three in October calls

963
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: you and is like, come and fulfill the like that

964
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: massive hole in your life right now and and be

965
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: our quarterback. And I don't think it's far far to reach.

966
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: I mean, how many of these insane stories have we

967
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: heard of coaches just calling like forty five year old

968
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: men out of pure desperation, like Bruce Arians and Kurt

969
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: Warner were, um speaking of Seth Wickersham. The uh the

970
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: hilariously bad text that Frank Reich sent to Andrew Luck

971
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: in the middle of like a law season. Do you

972
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: remember that the SOS by the police was on and

973
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: he pulled over on the side of the road and

974
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: texted Andrew Luck, sending out an sos care about anybody?

975
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: They don't care about anybody but themselves. And of course

976
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is finally gonna be like finding a purpose,

977
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: like he'll be making Bonzai gardens, or he'll like he'll

978
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: discover this other passion and flair for life, and McDaniels

979
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: will just be like, we gotta make the playoffs. Tommy

980
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: can get come in. You know, we just got to

981
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: get a Reese Witherspoon to sign off on this at

982
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: this point exactly. Sending out an SOS was the first

983
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: line of that text message you're referring to, and it

984
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: was added that the answer was no, just flat out no,

985
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: no no, like play on words like no, like every

986
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: breath you take, I'll be rooting for you, just like no.

987
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: I got a little bit great if he if he

988
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: did respond like every move you make, every step you did. No, No, exactly, Um,

989
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: so no, daddy, what was that? So? No, Daddy, I

990
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: don't know that one Tom Brady Monday Night football game

991
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: right right right? All right? Anybody you got another one? Mark,

992
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: go one more. I do think that over the next

993
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: uh fortnite plus, we are gonna hear whispers. Fortnite is

994
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: two weeks. Everybody old, love dies hard. I think we're

995
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna hear whispers of Trey Lance on his way out

996
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 1: of San Francisco as Kyle shan a hand makes one

997
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: more final play to bring Kirk Cousins on board. The

998
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: Bryce the brock Purty thing bothers me in conjunction with

999
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: all that, But I just think that there's going to

1000
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: be a little bit of smoke. You're gonna hear something,

1001
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: a nugget of some sorts that the Niners are always

1002
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: looking for quarterbacks, like I don't care who's on the roster.

1003
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: They were connected to Tom Brady left and right. There's

1004
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: whispers about them having looked into Aaron Rodgers all over

1005
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: the place after they had taken Trey Lance. It's like

1006
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: Trey Lance is an unproven product that you could probably

1007
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: move for in a deal like that. And there's always

1008
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: been a little bit of a man crush between Kyle

1009
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: Shanahan and Kirk Cousins. Interesting the conspiracy here is what

1010
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: is the conspiracy? Well, I guess it's more of a prediction.

1011
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: I told you, I'm not sure I nailed this exercise,

1012
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: but it was the last thing on my list. It

1013
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: could be something there, though I think they would. They'd

1014
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: all deny it heavily. That's an important part of a conspiracy.

1015
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: There's a little doubt that they are scheming. They're always scheming, right,

1016
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, Like there's like there's just groups of coaches,

1017
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: like you know the pre draft press conference where they

1018
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: all come up and they just be like, oh, we

1019
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: can't say anything, but like those guys come up always

1020
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: looking like they have just buried a body, you know,

1021
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: and that there's just something seriously nefarious going on. I

1022
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: got it, red String. We got the red String board.

1023
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: We just went through all these connect the red string

1024
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: between the Patriots and the Niners. On this one. Belichick

1025
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: has been in heavy conversations behind the scenes about Mac Jones.

1026
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: That was Kyle's, Kyle's guy he wanted in the draft,

1027
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: that's who he wants, and if he could offload Trey

1028
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: Lance in that first round salary. But again there's a

1029
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: war behind the scenes potentially, what about them Mac Jones,

1030
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: Jimmy g flipped up with the Raiders, spicy all the

1031
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: way to the top. Connor, You've said it all and

1032
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for that article to land. Thanks for

1033
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: having me on, guys. It was good to see you.

1034
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: It's always fun. It's always fun. Are you going to

1035
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: be in Kansas City for the Draft? No way, Nor

1036
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: will we so when will we see each other again? Um?

1037
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of like a tent pole

1038
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: league events, like what's our what's our schedule looking like?

1039
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: You can have your people call my people can. I

1040
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: liked it, by the way, you ever since I brought

1041
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: up that you used a booker on me one time

1042
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: you've booked me directly. It means a lot. It makes

1043
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: me feel incredibly special. Well that's you got a massage,

1044
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: the talent and you had sent through a direct channel,

1045
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: not even a back channel. Your displeasure there. So we

1046
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: had to we had to clean it up basically and

1047
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: make Connor feel specials absolutely, pat him on his hyeni

1048
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: and say we love you at the end of the day.

1049
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: It's what it's all about, all right, we do love you, Connor,

1050
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: and thank you for giving us so much time. And

1051
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: follow Connor on Twitter and of course his writing and

1052
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: everything else at SI including the Big Scoop, a actual

1053
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: Norse god level bloodline connected to a draft prospect and

1054
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: you will learn who that is. Eat it Wickersham through

1055
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: connor or on Friday when it drops there he goes,

1056
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a mic drop, you know,

1057
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Speaker 1: like Wickersham is like one of the nicest people around. Well,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you have to manufacture um conflict, I mean and

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Speaker 1: that rivalries. Yeah, and you can't tell me that there's

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Speaker 1: not there's not a little juice there, a little or sham. Guy.

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Speaker 1: He did not. He did not deny it. Did you ever? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at any point did Connor say, hey, guys, lay off that. No,

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Speaker 1: he didn't. He. I think he took that as a challenge.

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Speaker 1: I may be overstepped by even such see that he's nice,

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Speaker 1: because clearly there's some other aspect to Seth's character that

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Speaker 1: we don't know about. Now. I feel like we're diving

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Speaker 1: into deep on it. But Seth, keep on doing your thing,

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Speaker 1: all right, grave dig or anything else. We didn't even

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Speaker 1: talk about how the day we were meeting Connor at

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that we were just me and Mark

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Speaker 1: and a couple of people and Connor and we're sitting

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Speaker 1: in a bar for how long, just kind of waiting

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Speaker 1: for our meetup to take place. Do you remember this, Dan,

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Speaker 1: as you wandered the streets of Phoenix trying to find

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Speaker 1: the bar. Yeah, and that was logistical nightmare. I'd kind

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Speaker 1: of put that out of mind. But we did see

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Speaker 1: Connor briefly at the Super Bowl. That is true, that's

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Speaker 1: right before the game. Yeah, yeah, so that but then

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Speaker 1: then we then we actually ran into him in the

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Speaker 1: upper deck at the stadium right on Super Bowl Sunday

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Speaker 1: and had a nice conversation. And I love Connor. He's

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Speaker 1: a good dude, a great man, a great man. All Right,

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Speaker 1: that's it for today's show. We're gonna be back on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Right Thursday, so that's not right, correct? Uh? And Eric

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Speaker 1: Edholme will do some more draft talk breaking down that

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Speaker 1: situation and anything else that's happening in our league until then.

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Speaker 1: Good app, Mark, good app. I had fun, good good.

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Speaker 1: That's important. I hold the bodiens enjoyed it. But either

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Speaker 1: call s