1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: opinions only and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM employees of premier networks, 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light 14 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: with Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio. Hey, 15 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, They am paraormal podcast network. Welcome to 16 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: my show. Remember each week this is the place you 17 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: go to when you want to hear the latest personal paranormal, supernatural, 18 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: mysterious experiences, everything in anything out of the ordinary. I mean, 19 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: I don't care what is going on if there's a 20 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: fly sitting on the edge of Mothman's nose. I want 21 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: to hear the story. I mean, as long as it's 22 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: like real of course, uh socc is that something that 23 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: you've heard of, something you've experienced, something that you knew 24 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: happened in the family, or the historical um background of 25 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: an area. I mean, just go to Heidi Hollis dot 26 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: com or shadow Folks dot com and you can always 27 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: write me at Heidi Hollis at gmail dot com. That's 28 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: h E I D I H O L L I 29 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: S at Gmail and tell me about it. Tell me everything. 30 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: I think more details the better because it really helps 31 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: to paint a picture. I get so many people that right, 32 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: and they're like, I am so sorry, this so long. 33 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, keep it going. I don't care 34 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: if I spend the whole show trying to dissect what 35 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: it is that's going on, because we're looking for patterns. 36 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: This is what it's all about. I am not to 37 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: know at all. I am not a guru. I am 38 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: somebody who has been there seeing that, experienced that, freaked out, 39 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: found some answers, wrote about it, got over it, and 40 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: now I'm trying to help other people do the same 41 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: thing because it's important. It's important that we do. I mean, 42 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm not promised tomorrow. You aren't promised tomorrow. Uh So 43 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: how else are we going to make sure the next 44 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: generation of people who are looking into these topics gets 45 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: this like added uh knowledge, as I mean in all honesty. 46 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: How you know, not a lot of people like to 47 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: read anymore, you know that thing? Uh No, they just 48 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: want to learn it all within a few moments and 49 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: or hear it. So you know this is uh, this 50 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: is the way I'm rolling. That's the way I'm trying 51 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: to put it out there. Uh and uh again, follow 52 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: me on everything from Instagram, TikTok um, Facebook, Twitter, at 53 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: one Heidi Hollis. Okay, just put a one in front 54 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: of my name and you will find me. And also 55 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm a cartoonist. I do comics, so um you can 56 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: follow me at the Outlanders comic that is on Instagram 57 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: and you will also find that at the Outlanders Comic 58 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: dot com Um. Today, you guys are in for a 59 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: treat because I have somebody that's gonna be joining us 60 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: who is speaking about having positive alien contact, not abductions 61 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: contact and their history of studying the phenomenon, so many 62 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: different things that connect to it in a study group 63 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: called the Light Site dot o r G the Light 64 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Side dot org. So check out that website and also 65 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: the group on Facebook to learn more about it. I 66 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: have had one of the members on this program before 67 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: who is an author. That is Bonnie Meyer, and uh, 68 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: just just amazing, amazing, um contact that's been going on 69 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: for over four decades. You hear me over for decades 70 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: and she has a new book called Hope Messages from 71 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: the Aliens during Earth's Time of Transition. But you know 72 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Russell Brodkey who's joining me today. He is going to 73 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: be discussing his personal experiences and his studies. Because I 74 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: always tell you, guys, anybody who wants to come on 75 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: here to share about what is they've experienced, you're welcome. 76 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: Just come on a board. Okay. Uh So he's he's 77 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: volunteered and I'm excited for you guys to hear his story. 78 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: And he's somebody I've known for a bit, and uh, 79 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, I also want to remind you guys to 80 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: live a little that's from me to you, all right. 81 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: So I mean it's just so funny. I mean I 82 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: get get interesting conversations that get started with me on 83 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: the social media, and people always surprised that I'll respond. 84 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, send me a message, you'll be surprised. 85 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: I will respond more more more than likely than not, Okay. 86 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:45,559 Speaker 1: And I get so many like messages where people feel 87 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: if they didn't have the kind of experience as somebody 88 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: like me has had, then somehow they are a substandard 89 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: or something, and that is just not the case. We 90 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: are all different here in this world, right and we 91 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: all have our own journeys, we all have our own 92 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: path They're all unique, and especially when it comes to 93 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: the topic of you know, having faith. That Jesus encounter 94 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: topic is where people really are hard on themselves, like 95 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: in order to have best faith, uh, they have to 96 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: experience Him, they have to. And I'm like, uh no, 97 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: you really don't. I mean I feel I've cheated. Okay. 98 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: I've always say that I feel I've cheated in my 99 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: faith because um, it took for Him to come down 100 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: and make sure I got it right. Uh huh um, 101 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: while others, you know, have strong faith and haven't seen 102 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Him like that, you know. So it's we're all different, 103 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: We're all different. But you know what I want to 104 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: get to an email here to date that before I 105 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: get to my guest today, my first in studio guests. 106 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, uh huh, first in studio guests because most 107 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: of these are remote zooming and you know whatever, to 108 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: try to get these uh conversations recorded, but first in 109 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: studio one, so we'll see how it sounds. Uh uh. 110 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: So anyways, I want to get to this email that 111 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: was said to me that I just spotted, um the 112 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: other day. It came through my other website UFO to use. 113 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: That's a number two letter you dot com. That's a 114 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: group I had for over fifteen years as an alien 115 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: paranormal discussion group, and uh, it was a lot of 116 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: fun having it. And then I moved out of the area, 117 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: so I just stopped doing the meetings. But somebody sent 118 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: me a message through there, and this is kind of cool. Um. 119 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: So this one says, hi, Heidi, how are you doing? Okay? 120 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: How are you? My name is Renzo. Well, hey Renzo, 121 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: and I am from Argentina. Oh hey there I speak Spanish, 122 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: so sorry for my English. Hey, that's all good. You know, 123 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: I swear, I swear to you. Um. Sometimes people that 124 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: write me from abroad have much better English than those 125 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: sitting here doing this, this texting language to um. Okay, continuing, 126 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: I have to be brief on this. Why my girlfriend 127 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: lives with the hat man in her house. Oh okay, 128 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. And she can see dead people 129 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: always dressed in black. This has been happening to her 130 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: for many years, but lately it's become very intense and 131 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: is affecting her emotionally. You know, guys, I'm telling you 132 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: the phenomena out there is increasing. It is changing. I've 133 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: been noticing that, and those who are sensitive to such things, 134 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: it is intensifying across the board. Um, worldwide. Here we 135 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: are Argentina. Uh to continue, um. I am trying to 136 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: find some way to somehow drive away, eliminate, or distance 137 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: this entity, the hat Man, from her life. The experience 138 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: coincides with what many antidotes tell us. He is about 139 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: two meters tall, He has a top hat and an overcoat. 140 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: He just appears, walks and looks at her, panicking her 141 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: and in a way paralyzing her normally. It is in 142 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: the bathroom that's interesting choice, which is where it comes from. 143 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: I am writing to know if you could share with 144 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: me if it is within your reach. Any advice or 145 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: a solution or method to get rid of it, I 146 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: would appreciate it if you could get in touch. Well. 147 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: Alrighty um Renzo, thank you for writing me from Argentina 148 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: and wow perfect English, what I tell you guys, so 149 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: um Renzo, I'm going to send you in a response 150 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: as well as speaking here in regards to that. And 151 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, I've I've covered it quite a bit on 152 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: this show, but I'm always always um open to sharing 153 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: how to get rid of that guy hat Man and 154 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: um and but it's something I want to point out first. 155 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: So your your girlfriend, she's experienced seeing dead people as well. 156 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: For a while now. I always say that the pattern 157 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: is that hat Man is attracted to people who are gifted, 158 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: and it could be creatively, artistically or uh you know, 159 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: spiritually being able to see and um see in between 160 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: the lines of the world, if you will. And he 161 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: tries to terrify people into shutting down emotionally, uh looking away, 162 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: not wanting to uh know anything along these lines, you know, 163 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,239 Speaker 1: and to lose their gifts. And this is an an 164 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: evolutionary thing, a process that mankind is capable of. Where 165 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: you are evolving, we're changing, and um, yeah, that's just 166 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: the way things go, right. I mean, even moths can 167 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: adjust to reflect trees that were charred and they've they've 168 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: altered like generational changes in their coloring so they could 169 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: blend in with the charred trees. I mean, these things happen. 170 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: If moss can do it, why can't we You know, 171 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: we're a bit more evolved somehow. Um. But anyways, I 172 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: want to tell you briefly, Okay, you can indeed get 173 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: rid of this thing. Have no doubt there was an 174 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: opposing force. His name is God Jesus. Okay, um, and uh, 175 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: blessing your home, okay, because one thing he's trying to 176 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: do is wear you down. He's trying to wear you down. 177 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: And this is you see, this is happening at odd 178 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: times a day. I'm sure she's just not sleeping in 179 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: the bathroom people, So uh, this is not just a 180 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: nighttime type of experience. Hat Man comes at all times 181 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: a day. So what you need to do is to 182 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: get holy water or make your own with spring water. 183 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: Bless that water and take that water, going from room 184 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: to room to the furthest corner of each room, taking 185 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: a cross necklace and splashing it in the sign of 186 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: the Cross and saying a brief prayer something like, and 187 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: Jesus Name, keep all negative things out of his home. 188 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Do each corner, open up the closet doors to each corner, 189 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: close the closet door, do the same blessing. Go to 190 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: the center of the room, do the same blessing. And 191 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: while you're doing this blessing, keep the door to that 192 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: room open. And then you step out of that room, 193 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: close the door, and you do that blessing on that door, 194 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: and you go to each room. If you have two stories, 195 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: I say go to the basement first, if you have 196 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: a basement, and then go to the top floor, and 197 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: then you go to the main floor. And then when 198 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: you're on the main floor, open up the big door 199 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: to the house and say a prayer. You're not welcome 200 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: here there, get out. You know this is my place. 201 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: Jesus Name, pray, Amen, close the door, speel it, and 202 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: everybody that lives in at home should join you in 203 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: the blessing. If they do not, take it upon yourself 204 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: to do the parts of the home, even if it's 205 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: just your own room, or do the whole house. And 206 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: there you have. So I hope this will help to 207 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: your rento. I also send this an email to you 208 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, so thank you so much for writing. 209 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: And remember, guys, go to shadow Folks dot com or 210 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: Heidi House dot com and tell you stories. We are 211 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: gonna get to our first break. You guys, you are 212 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis, Funny, 213 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast they am para 214 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: normal podcast network. Stick around, welcome back. You are listening 215 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi Hollis, My Heart 216 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast they am para normal podcast network. 217 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: As promised, I have a fabulous guest and long time friend, 218 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Russell Brocky. He is an experiencer of UFO citing and 219 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: alien contact. He has been part of the study group 220 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: called the Light Side and for almost forty years and 221 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: has witnessed alien communication for decades. You know, it's rare 222 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: that I come across somebody who has been in this 223 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: field so long and has read everything that could get 224 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: their hands on, all in hopes of opening up other 225 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: people's eyes. And I have to give it to my 226 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: friend Russkier, who has done the work. And uh so 227 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: I'd like to give a warm welcome to my friend 228 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: Russell Brockie. How are you doing today there, Russ, And 229 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: he's my first in studio guest. Very good, thank you. 230 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: I'm loving this cold weather coming. Oh no, no, no, 231 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: not not a good thing. You know. I've known you 232 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: for a really long time and your group, the Light 233 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: Side Group, You've been a part of that for more 234 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: years and I've been alive I feel, but you've had 235 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: this interest going on. But I always like to get 236 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: to the bottom of what got a person involved and 237 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: interested in such a topic as UFOs and alien contact. Well, 238 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: my first sighting was was my dad and brother. We 239 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: had stepped out of the green rien have a family farm, 240 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: and we noticed the light but no sound, and we 241 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: watched it for a few minutes before Dad said, come on, boys, 242 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: we got chores to do. So that hooked me. And 243 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: then the bus driver, uh always turned in the program 244 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: Stranger than Science, I think was based on Frank Edwards 245 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: book So nice. That's how I fell in love with it. 246 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: That's wild, I mean, but it's it wasn't popular, especially 247 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: when I mean, how long were you part of the 248 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: group first off the Light Side since five? I'm want 249 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: to see, when it wasn't really popular, It wasn't out. 250 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: There wasn't a topic that you know, like today it's everywhere. 251 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: So I mean, did you kind of go against the 252 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: rain of your family and friends. Well, that's not the case, 253 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: because I had family members tell me about being followed 254 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: by a craft late at night, followed home, and then 255 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: it stopped over the family wood lot and they looked 256 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: out the window and there weren't any shadows in the woods, 257 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: but it was brightly lit. And when you have two 258 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: or three family members relate the same kind of incidents 259 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: two different generations, different times, it tends to keep your interest. Wow. 260 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: So that's cool. So it is kind of a generational 261 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: thing that you guys have all experienced. I think. So 262 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't like something that was doubted when you said, 263 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to dig a little deeper. Well, 264 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: they always said, well that's enough of that. We've got 265 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: other things to talk about. Oh. I see. So it's 266 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: just there's stores to be done. Right. They always were 267 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: very close lipped to someone who was not in their 268 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: immediate circle. I see, Well that makes sense. I mean 269 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: it's still and back then, I mean, it's just it 270 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: was one of those topics that put you into the 271 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: country bumpkin category, you know, living in trailers or something 272 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: not intelligent, you know, And so I guess that that 273 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's kind of a shame how 274 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: people were ashamed, honestly to to look into these topics. 275 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: So I get it why families would keep it to themselves. Well, 276 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: I was younger, and you know, the kid that wanted 277 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: to know as I wasn't embarrassed. I just asked questions 278 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: trying to get to the truth. That's honestly your pioneer 279 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: of sorts. I mean, you were involved with a lot 280 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: of people who are more widely known, uh in these 281 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: fields of uthology, when so many people were just you know, 282 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: out on a limb. Hello, Shirley McClain, who's a gentleman 283 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: that you're familiar with from that story? Well, the guy 284 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: I think he was named David and Shirley McLean's story. 285 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: And the strange thing about that is I just blurted 286 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: that out at a meeting one time, and less than 287 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: a month later he was in the area. Wow, Wow, 288 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: that's that's unbelievable. And he what did he share with 289 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: you about his experiences? For anybody who doesn't know Chirlie 290 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: McLean had gone to Peru, isn't it. And this gentleman 291 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: that was named David there he if you've seen the movie, 292 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: he's driving the pickup truck there in without touching the 293 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: steering wheel, and he essentially let it be known he 294 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 1: had ties to other things. And what was it that 295 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: you learned from your connection with him? Well, the connection 296 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: um kind of focused on the fact that there's a 297 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: spiritual component that people aren't taught working about. And part 298 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: of the communication that we had one of the members 299 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: was a pure channel. She would meditate, surround herself in 300 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: the light and then relax, and then another different voice 301 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: came through that many times spoke about spiritual matters and 302 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: how our science will not progress until we recognize there's 303 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: a spiritual component. It's not evolution, something doesn't happen by chance. 304 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: And now everyone is talking about intelligent design. So he 305 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: was a little ahead of his time, I see. And 306 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: Shirley McLean, I mean she took a risk as well 307 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: to step forward as she did. And that that film, well, 308 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: it was kind of like a mini series, wasn't it, 309 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: Or was it a film out on a limb? I 310 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: know she did a book and then the film. I 311 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: read the book and watched the film. Yeah, so, and 312 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: and that's that's a shame that also the spiritual element 313 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: was kind of missed for so long. But you know, 314 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: people are catching up now. Um. I've actually heard from 315 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: people like Nick Redfern who know of government people involved 316 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: in the whole UFO phenomena have realized there's a spiritual 317 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: element and it's not always positive. And that's something that 318 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: it's gone through some changes. I mean, you're familiar with 319 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: you've been through this where you've seen people and sat 320 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: in these meetings, You've gone to conferences all over the country, 321 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: and you've known and met with hundreds of people in 322 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: this field. What's your interpretation of what you see? Uh? 323 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: What's evolved from those that were abducted to saying they're contacted? 324 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: I mean, what's this this wave of change? What have 325 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: you seen? I believe the change is due to the 326 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: awareness of a whole another set of physics that people 327 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: are embarded with in television, advertising, movies, books, and they 328 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: talk about putting spin on things. Everybody is questioning everything 329 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: now because they have weaponized language, well kind of put 330 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: it in a nutshell is everybody is trying to have 331 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: you look at them as being a wise teacher while 332 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: they're telling lies and degrading and defaming other people. And 333 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: now we have to really follow what's what the good 334 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: Lord gave us on the inside. Right right now. I 335 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: also know that you've sat in having your meetings Hello 336 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: for such a long time. You've also been involved in 337 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: going to meetings even like my own I had uf 338 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: vote to you. Uh, it's a UFO discussion group I 339 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: had in Milwaukee for years, and you guys would come 340 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: over and hear you had your group going for forty 341 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: plus years. And you've seen people who have had alien 342 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: abductions who are terrified, who the same people would have. Uh, 343 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: these epiphanies of something different was going on versus being victimized. 344 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: What's your interpretation of that person that cannot accept um 345 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: kind of the strangeness, the horror, if you will, of 346 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: their experience. They then follow somebody else's coaching, like Wendell Stevens. 347 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: He wrote seventeen books, I believe on contact from and 348 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: he was talking with a woman in the Bible Belt 349 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: who had experiences, so she had notebooks full of information 350 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: the aliens had given her and her pastor told her 351 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: to burn that material. She burned all of it and 352 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: would not share it. When the church gets involved, they 353 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: want to maintain control and that's a whole new wicket 354 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: from there on. And then the military they want to 355 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: have their control and the government, so you've got a 356 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: three legged stool and they're all sharing power. Well, it's 357 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: it's it's wild, it's a it's it is complicated. There's 358 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: so many different angles that people come at and understanding 359 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: what's real for themselves and it and I try not 360 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: to judge people for myself. I saw a lot of 361 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: people who did their best to try to interpret what 362 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: they were seeing, and you know, they were absolutely terrorized, 363 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: and then they became, I don't know, changed where they're like, 364 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm I think I was chosen. 365 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm special. I think this was a this 366 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: is a good thing that I had these things going 367 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: on to me, And I'm like, hold on, you used 368 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: to sleep with a shotgun under your your pillow. You know, 369 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: It's like, what do you mean? You know, and I 370 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: know you witnessed those things as well, so that's, uh, 371 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: that's another perspective. I'm curious what you know, Well, we've 372 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: we've tried to find out what at what point in 373 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: that relationship that they just change, and uh, there seems 374 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: to be maybe period of getting acclimated to what's occurring 375 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: and then recognizing their technology is so big and so 376 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: strong and so powerful, I can't do anything to stop it, 377 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: so then they accept it. I'm just thinking of a 378 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: gentleman that changed locations several different states, and it kept happening, 379 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: kept happening, and at the end of this for towards 380 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: the end of its presentation, he says, now I help 381 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: calm the people that are being stuff. Now says Roles changed. Well, 382 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta get to our next grade. You 383 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis 384 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. They 385 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: am para normal podcast network. Stick around, We'll be right 386 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: back with more. Russell Rocky, welcome back. You are listening 387 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: to Dark Become Lights with me Heidi Hollis, I Heart 388 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast. They am paranormal podcast network. 389 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I am joined by Russell broad Key. He is the first, 390 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: honestly to be in studio with me recording so it 391 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: might sound a little bit different, and it's cool. I've 392 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: known this guy for such a long time, and uh, 393 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: it's like the end their their group they've had. The 394 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: light Side group has been absolutely like would you call 395 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: it a study group of swords? Yes, I mean we 396 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: had at one time twelve members and then that spits 397 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: or there were six And he's true. And the advantage 398 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: of having six people is one person was interested in earthquake, 399 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: so they studied all the earthquake evans. Another one sun 400 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: spot activity, another one read a lot hunt. Um. Three 401 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: of us have pretty good sized libraries. And being in 402 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: the military, I liked concentrating on things that are new 403 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: military technology. What's going on in the intelligence field? Um, 404 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: what is the makeup of move fond? How many and 405 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: retired police officers intelligence officers are out there taking the good, 406 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: the best, most complicated cases that someone out in the 407 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: field has found, and then they do the investigation and 408 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: they don't share. And we would go to conferences to 409 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: talk to the people and not listen to so many 410 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: of the speakers. You could buy their book, but they 411 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: weren't sharing their own experiences. And for many years I 412 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: didn't know a couple of the speakers had some dramatic 413 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: encounters themselves, but they didn't want to discredit themselves by saying, well, yes, 414 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: I had an experience, and then they were afraid of 415 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: other people pointing the finger at them. Wow, that's a shame. 416 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: And it's true. A lot of people, even if they 417 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: didn't have an experience before they started investigating, we'd learned 418 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: later that they did. And but they again, like you said, 419 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: they didn't want to discredit themselves. You know, and without 420 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: naming names, I know that you've pointed out certain speakers 421 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: you've met over the years that would uh not want 422 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: to be met with some of the information that you 423 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: and your your group the light side uh it had 424 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: gathered over the years. I mean, if you want to 425 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: give some examples of some of that, it's it's mind 426 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: blowing because you guys are the most well read people 427 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: I've known in these areas. And you'd read a book, 428 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: you take notes. I mean, what would you present it 429 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: to each other after you've you've taken on a subject matter? 430 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yes, and what was noted? Someone would 431 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: see something in a television series or at movies. Um, 432 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of truths, little seeds are planted all 433 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: over so when the feathers hit to fanned, the government 434 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: can say, well, we told you, we put it all 435 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: out there for you, but they cleverly disguised it as entertainment. 436 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: But one incident, at a conference, there was a speaker 437 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: that said I have interviewed over I think he said 438 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: six hundred people who have had abductions. And after his 439 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: presentation I made sure I got right behind him and 440 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: followed him, and he went into the exhibitors hall and 441 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: was being at material and I said, sir, I heard 442 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: you say that you have worked with six hundred abductees. 443 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever talked with anyone who had an encounter, 444 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: a positive encounter without any fear? And he said no. 445 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: I said, well you are now, and for just a second, 446 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: fear when acrossed his face, and then he spun around 447 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: and walked away. You can't have six hundred cases without 448 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: a single one saying something different. And what prompted me 449 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: asking was a year before I was at a conference 450 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: and she said, I sent two letters to this individual 451 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: when I explained the positive aspects that I had experienced. 452 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: I didn't get a response for six months, so I 453 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: sent the second letter saying I was taken in and 454 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: sexually experimented with. I had a reply from this guy 455 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: in three days. Wow, so it fit the narrative of 456 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: where he was going, that's what you're saying. Huh right, 457 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: I see. So if it fell outside of their hypothesis 458 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: or their goal, they just wouldn't reflect it. That's um, 459 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: that's interesting. But now do you think, like in the 460 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: case of that woman, she was having two different types 461 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: of beings that she was working with, you think that 462 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: they I mean to have a being that was doing 463 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: horrible experimentation too, something positive and lightening, all from the 464 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: same being. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I didn't make it 465 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: clear she only had a positive experience, and when he 466 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: did not reply to her positive experience, she thought, I'm 467 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: just going to check a field. He is only interested 468 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: into sexual stuff. Oh wow. So he honed right in 469 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: and got right back to her. So she just made 470 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: that up to see. Wow, that's interesting because alien abduction 471 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: is you know, the word abduction says right there, not 472 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: good uh ailien contact. That's essentially what your group, the 473 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: light side uh dot org has experience. And can you 474 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about that. I've had Bonnie Meyer, 475 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: who's part of your group as well on she's written 476 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: several books and you guys have all contributed to help 477 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: those books, uh, parts of it and inspired it and 478 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, dictated and wrote and typed it up and 479 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: transcribed and it's like uh and her experiences a bit positive. 480 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: And what what is it that you guys have experienced 481 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: as a group or together? Well, the Uh, we've been 482 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: very fortunate. The beings we talk with are very spiritual, 483 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: and they have said things like I would rather die 484 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: then destroy somebody else's soul by saying something that would 485 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: hurt their soul. M Um. They said, you are a 486 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: part of God. Everybody is a part of God. Everything 487 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: is a part of God at all works together and 488 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: you can stop bad things from happening by calling on 489 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: God or Jesus Christ. And at a little UFO Days 490 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: celebration that thirty years, Bill Benson hosted it and we 491 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: had four people one year that came and shared how 492 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: they stopped an abduction. One gentleman was being pulled into 493 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: toward a gray with three fingers and red eyes, and 494 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: he knew he could do nothing, and he said, I 495 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: remembered what they taught me as a child, our father 496 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: who aren't are in heaven, he said. The instant I 497 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: started praying that in my mind, they released me. Another 498 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: one was a woman whose daughter was having problems, and 499 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: she u blessed the house and lit a holy candle 500 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: by across crucifix and she lit it and it was 501 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: still burning twelve hours later in a four hour candle. Wow. Amazing. 502 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: But she was able to protect herself and you know, 503 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: and her daughter and a family soul because of that 504 00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: spiritual element. For a long time, many ministers would classify 505 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: anyone talking about useful encounters as demonically possessed. But there 506 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: are good aliens, and they have said mankind could annihilate themselves, 507 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: but you cannot destroy the planet because if you destroy 508 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: the planet, it's going to affect the whole universe. And 509 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: they've had it happened where people got technology before it 510 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: was balanced by spirituality. They destroyed their planet and now 511 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the cosmos had to scramble to balance 512 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: that energy. The loss of that energy. Right. Wow, it's uh, 513 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing the different perspectives that are indeed out there. 514 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: I think that was the attractive part for myself with 515 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: your group I mean one of the odds. Were both 516 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: in the state of Wisconsin first off, and I had 517 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: positive alien contact, and I believe we're at a conference 518 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: I was, I was there that we might have first 519 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: crossed paths or something or and we had That's when 520 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: I that that UFO. I was showing people how you 521 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: could spot UFOs in the sky. You're you're one of 522 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: the groups that came out there, and and that it's transparent, 523 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: like UFO showed up and I couldn't believe that you 524 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: remember that seeing that in the sky. That was I 525 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: believe when we went to Yes, Yeah, Kenosha, Wisconsin and 526 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: and they asked me, how do you look for UFOs 527 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: in the sky And they asked me to uh take 528 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: part in that and showing people and you guys came 529 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: out in a group and we just walked outside and 530 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: it was still kind of daylight, and this craft showed 531 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: up after kind of asking for it too, and it 532 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: distorted the background. It believable, unbelievable. It was rather low 533 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: to um. But you know, it was really kind of 534 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: eye opening for myself. I mean, like your your group 535 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: name the Light Side, I'm like, I didn't understand the 536 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: connection and not until I had my Jesus encounter and 537 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: I came to you guys because you speak as well 538 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: on you know, having this understanding that the spiritual aspect 539 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: and understanding that you know, Jesus does help get rid 540 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: of some of these things. Did I I felt comfortable 541 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: approaching you guys did to talk more in depth on it, though. 542 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: I got to know you soon after that. But then 543 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna get to our next break and 544 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that because oh my gosh, it really 545 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: changed everything. And you guys were so tickled that, you know, 546 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that looks like your faces. And I 547 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know, I thought Jesus and it 548 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: was just so different. But all right, you guys. You 549 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Idie Hollis 550 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a 551 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 1: um paranormal podcast network. Stick around, We'll be right back. 552 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes lighte with 553 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: me Idy Hollins, I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 554 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: a um paraanormal podcast network. I had my friend Russell Brocky. 555 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: He is part of the group called the Light Side 556 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: dot Org and you can also find them on Facebook. 557 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: And we're talking about how we first met. And I 558 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: was speaking at a conference I was helping to put 559 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: on in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and I was having a UFO sighting, 560 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: uh walk out when a UFO actually came down and 561 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: kind of like the effect that you see in the 562 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: movie The Predator showed the old craft, I mean, right 563 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: below the clots for rectip see. So it's kind of wild. 564 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: And and then we met again and I was I 565 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: was still in college at the time, and I I 566 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: didn't I understood that this group was a study group 567 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: of a sort. I understood that they spoke of beings 568 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: being uh more on the positive side that they connected with, 569 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: and they also spoke of Jesus within the same breath. 570 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: And I was not caught up to that at that point. Okay, 571 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, you guys hear me talk about Jesus on 572 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: the show pretty much every episode, and but I was 573 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: kind of like nuts and bolts. But I also had 574 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: my my contacts too that we're going on with positive beings. 575 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: And then I had my Jesus encounter and I was 576 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: like floored, guys, I was floored. I was like and 577 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: I kept telling everybody Jesus is no joke. I mean, 578 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: He's real. And that's why I called my book that, 579 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: by the way. And then I couldn't wait to see 580 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: this group, the light Side group, because they were so 581 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: casual and talking about it. And so you guys had 582 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: a conference you're putting on and uh, and we were 583 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: at the hotel and and I waited to my friends 584 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: went to bed, and I went down. You guys were 585 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: still chatting at your table, and I'm like, um, I 586 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: need to talk to you guys, because um I saw Jesus. 587 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: You guys looked at me and just got the giggles, 588 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, what you know? But it was 589 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: so welcoming. I mean, how how did you guys get 590 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,879 Speaker 1: to understand this connection that Jesus had with your contacts? 591 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: H that we're flying around on on craft but you know, 592 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: you spoke of it really, uh, you know, out and open, 593 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: like we know Jesus can stop abductions. I guess it 594 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: started kind of accidentally. We didn't know. We were still 595 00:40:53,800 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: learning and m then we in the challenge, we talked 596 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: about reincarnation. Uh it's a fact. I mean, my ex 597 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: wife said. Her youngest daughter said to her one day, 598 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's my birthday today. Well, how old are 599 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: you today? I'm ety seven And her mom was shocked 600 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: because she was I think less than six years old, 601 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: but she remembered it. But there were other stories, and 602 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: today you see so many books about like the Boy 603 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: who Knew Too Much, other dramatic reincarnation is a fact. 604 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: It can no longer be denied. And um, we asked, 605 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: well why are why are we here? Well, you volunteered 606 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: in your last life to be here at it's time 607 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: to do a job. And whoa, that was a bombshell. Yeah. 608 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: But the interesting thing is the more we talked about 609 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: it and just shared it very calmly, this is what 610 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: people have been experiencing. People have and other books talked 611 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: about ending an abduction. It's no longer something to be 612 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: ashamed of. And when you speak the truth that speaks 613 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: volumes so true. And to clarify the group on the 614 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: light side, the Bonnie Meyer, who has been a guest 615 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: on this show. If you guys want to check out 616 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: episode fifty one, she speaks of her story and how 617 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: she started spontaneously channeling alien beings, which is something that 618 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people do. It's just not something that's 619 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 1: quite been spoke kind of um out in the open, 620 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: like like a person be hypnotized and uh, instead of 621 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: like explaining their experience, suddenly the being is speaking through them. 622 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: Like that's I've witnessed that a few times from from folks. 623 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, you know, but to have this access 624 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: as as your group and Bonnie Meyer unbelievable. And then 625 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: my friend, you know, it's just new to people, to 626 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: other people who are doing this too, and it's like, 627 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: you know, it's like an epidemic in Wisconsin. I don't know, 628 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: but but yeah, I mean it was really kind of 629 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: comforting because I'm sure didn't know who to talk to him, 630 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: Like Jesus, you know how this all fits in? And 631 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: people are like, you know, doesn't complicate things. I mean, 632 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: you're Christian, You're talking about aliens and like, no, it 633 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: made things really clear. But you know, with your group, 634 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean, how would you explain it to somebody who 635 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: has had whether a good or bad alien encounter? How 636 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: would you explain what your group offers to people? Examples 637 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: of what prayer can do. UM sincerity number one. UM, 638 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 1: God knows what's in your heart and even the people 639 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: that have never heard about Jesus are being visited by Jesus. 640 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a probably close to a dozen books 641 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: on Um looking for Allah Finding Jesus. The title of 642 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: One I Am And is another title um story after 643 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: story where Jesus appears to an individual and instructs them. Well, 644 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: that happened at the time of Christ. They were called apostles. 645 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: Today they're being persecuted because people that they formally worshiped 646 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: with notice they aren't going to church anymore, or to 647 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: um mosque or to synagogue. What's with this? You know, 648 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: demons recognize Christ in the Bible, and people who have 649 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: had an abduction stopped by calling on God or Jesus. No, 650 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: he is real and take it or leave it. Yeah, 651 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: I hear you. I mean it's uh, it's all connected. 652 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: It just is. And it's like I don't see the 653 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: lines drawn anymore. I mean, it is just it all 654 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: blends and it Uh, I don't know. I mean, it's 655 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: it's been a wildlife trying to interpret and explain it 656 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 1: sometimes to people. But um, if you're in the midst 657 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: of it, it's it's just it just flows. But you know, 658 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: how would you explain the beings that you guys and 659 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: your group have had contact with the most. I mean, 660 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: they're they're literally speaking through Bonnie Meyer, right. You can 661 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: you can hear the difference in octave between Eric and 662 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: a man and man or Lee Mom has been down 663 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 1: on the planet several times. She looks like you, r I, Lee, 664 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: this is a little different. She has a pupil that's 665 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 1: vertical and yellow wind color and doesn't have any fingernails. 666 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: But otherwise she can walk around just fine. An alien 667 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have to look like et or the Arrival something 668 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: really grotesque. And doctor Strange has wrote about thor Videl. 669 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: I think the guy's name was. That wasn't the Pentagonic extraterrestrial? 670 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: That wasn't the pentagon That right there, If there's any 671 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: truth to that, all this setty silliness. They already know 672 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: where where the intelligent life is in the universe, and 673 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: it's not on Earth. Right. That's just like NASA, like, 674 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Because they're really throwing rockets under 675 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: people's backside and flinging the mountain into space. Come on, now, 676 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: you guys are doing so much more advanced things, and 677 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculous, but you know where do you Where 678 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: do you think things are going? I mean, now the 679 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: government's coming forward about flying you know, candies, tic TACs 680 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: in the air. Where do you thinks going on? I 681 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: think they recognize and probably already know how large a 682 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: fleet can appear over Earth in a very short period 683 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: of time. UM. Dr Stephen Grewer has said in nine 684 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: fifty seven we mastered the theory under control of gravity. 685 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: So that tells me we already have magnetic gravitic machines. 686 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: Um I look for one line admissions in a book 687 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: or a newspaper article. This jet came in, stopped in 688 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 1: mid air, fired all of its rocketry, and then went 689 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: straight up. Oh that's interesting. They put the truth out there. 690 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: I think we are close to the point where we 691 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: could annihilate ourselves. I think it's going to the showdown 692 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 1: is coming. You think this is the time, the time 693 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: of all times? Huh? Well, the final battle, the Battle 694 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: of Armageddon, whatever you want to call it. It's a 695 00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: battle between good and evil, spirituality and mechanics and technology. 696 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: Got you well, you know we are we run out 697 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 1: of time. I want to thank you so much, my 698 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 1: friend Russell Rocky, for coming here on the program. Everybody 699 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: can go to the light Side dot or org or 700 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: go and find them on Facebook and reach out. They 701 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: update their site regularly and always uh their latest information 702 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: that they're they're gathering in their studies. So thank you 703 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 1: so much for coming on this show. You're welcome. Wow, 704 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: we have come to the bottom of another fabulous program. 705 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed yourself as much as I did, 706 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 1: because I am never bored talking on these subjects, especially 707 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: with a good friend. And uh, you know, for once 708 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: talking about positive alien contact of a different sort. None 709 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: of the beings that that group has seen are the grades? 710 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: Are the preptilions are Yeah, there's a whole array of 711 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: beings out there and always learning, always growing. And you guys, 712 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: I want to remind you to go to my website 713 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: which is Heidi Hollse dot com or shadow Folks dot 714 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: com and the Outlanders comic and find me also on 715 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 1: all the social media at one Randy Hollis and say hello, 716 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: send me your questions, come to your story, send me everything. 717 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 1: I am open. This is what it's all about. We 718 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: are finding patterns and we are growing in our knowledge. Wow. 719 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: All right, you guys, you have been listening to Dark 720 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis, I Heart Radio and 721 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: Coast to Coach. They am paranormal podcast network. We will 722 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: see you next time. Stay safe, everybody, goodbye. Well. If 723 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait till 724 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: you hear the next one. You've been listening to the 725 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a m paranormal 726 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: podcast network