1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm in my car and he's like, listen, this is 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: one of the hardest phone calls we've ever had to make. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: And they're like, Bravo's just going to go in a 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: different direction, and they've offered you three episodes for the season. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: And I said, are you fucking kidding me right now? 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: And they're like, well, you know this is what I said, 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: fuck off and I hung up. 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. We'll get into my conversation with Tamra Judge 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: right after these quick ads. Welcome to Reality with the King. 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television. 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: With over ten years of production experience, I've executive produced 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: top rated programs such as eight seasons of the Real 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: Housewives of Atlanta. Additionally, I have created shows such as 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: Netflix Is Styling, Hollywood Owns, number one rated Love and 16 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: Marriage Franchise, and TV one's Hollywood Divas, just to name 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: a few. Twice a week on Reality with the King, 18 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, 19 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that 20 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: we are still talking and tweeting about Hey, you guys, 21 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: So today's guest on Reality with the King is the myth, 22 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: the woman, the legend, Tamra Judge. Let me tell y'all something. 23 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: I started watching The Real Housewife of OC because of Tamra. 24 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: Let's be clear. She was the right amount of mess 25 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: but funny, and she brought something so different to the 26 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: OC franchise that the moment I laid eyes on this 27 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: blonde bombshell, I was hooked. And what's so funny is 28 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: this is my first time meeting Tamra, and when I 29 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: say to you, it won't be the last because she 30 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 2: and I became the best of friends after this interview. 31 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: We text talk shit almost every single day. I love her. 32 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: She is now one of my favorite people in the world. 33 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: I really cannot wait until you, guys take in this conversation. 34 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: You're going to see a very different side of Tamra Judge. 35 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: You single handedly tammera change the way Housewives was organized 36 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: and orchestrated? Do you accept that? 37 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize it, honestly until I read part 38 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: of the book that came out. Did Quinn's book All 39 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Not All Diamonds and Rose and I'm like, all the 40 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: producers gave me so many, so much credit and props 41 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: for kind of changing things and putting housewives on the map. 42 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: How did they find you? 43 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's a funny story. It had only 44 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: been on for two years. I knew about it because 45 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: it was, you know, right in my backyard filming, and 46 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: my girlfriend and I lived next door to each other, 47 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: and we were on AOL I am. I was in 48 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: my office, she was in her office, and we're drinking 49 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: wine chatting on there and she's like, oh my gosh, 50 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: look at this. 51 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: There's a pasting call for the Real Housewives of Orange County. 52 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: You should go. And I'm like, hell no, why the 53 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: fuck would I want to do that. I go, I'm 54 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: not interesting, I'm not exciting. I don't really do anything. 55 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm an actual housewife. And I had my 56 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: real estate license, I did a part time. My kids 57 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: were so little that I thought there's just no way, 58 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: so jokingly I filled it out like a I don't know, 59 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: an eighteen year old horny boy and just totally I 60 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: didn't send pictures, nothing. And they called me immediately and 61 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we got your application. 62 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: They left me a voicemlug because I didn't know the number. 63 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, really, So I tell Simon, 64 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: you know my husband at the time. Simon, I'm like, 65 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: HOUSEEC wants to interview me. And I thought he'd be 66 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: like no, this is a hard no. And he's like, oh, 67 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: call him, and I'm like okay. So I called him. 68 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: They came over, they interviewed me. They sent me like 69 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: a stack of paper. They gave me a stack of papers. 70 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm hundreds of papers for me to fill out, and 71 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: I just threw him in the drawer. 72 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: I just didn't think there was any chance that anything. 73 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Then they called me back like two weeks later. I 74 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: was like, hey, do you fill those papers? I'm like no, 75 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: and they're like, can we come over again. I'm like sure. 76 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: So they met my kids and my husband at the 77 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: time and all that, and then next thing I know, 78 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, you got it. I'm like what, shut 79 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: the fuck up. He's like no, you fucking got it. 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm like shit, like wow, and then the rest is history. 81 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: And that was sixteen seventeen years. 82 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: Ago, and you were iconic then you're iconic now. I 83 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: remember watching you and my favorite season was when Gretchen came, 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: come on, hold on to. 85 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: Your daddy's Yeah, he comes, and the whole. 86 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: Like, get Gretchen wasted, Like I don't think the world 87 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: understand this. I will always give you your props because 88 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: you are such a force. So that's why when you 89 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: were fired, and I love that you're like, say fire 90 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: like I was fire, guys, like I'm not one of 91 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: those housewops, like, well, you know, it's a mutual decision, 92 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: like no, a bitch was fired, a bit was fired, 93 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I listened to your 94 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: story about the phone call that was placed, and I 95 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: gotta be honest with you. I felt so bad for 96 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: you because I do this for a living and I 97 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: look at someone like you who literally gave everything to 98 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: that show I did, and you were so transparent, you 99 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: left nothing on the table. Then the crew loved you, 100 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: and you were so respectful of the crew to receive 101 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: a phone call that you were not asked back in 102 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: that very moment. Did you feel betrayed or did you 103 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: feel like a failure? 104 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: I felt both. 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: It was really weird because I had a good season. 106 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it. They called me to do my 107 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, the pre filming, they sit with you and 108 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: talk about what's going on. So that was already scheduled. 109 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: So let me explain that to the audience. So what 110 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: happens is before a new season starts, for do you 111 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: start to meet with the cast. We have a one 112 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: on one meetings with each housewife in their homes or 113 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: at a restaurant, and we get insight based on what 114 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: their storyline would be for the upcoming season. So you 115 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: you went through that entire process. 116 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Well, I had. I had a schedule for Friday, and 117 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: they called me on a Sunday or a Saturday and 118 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: I was camping. I was and I didn't have any 119 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: cell reception, and I had a bunch of my friends 120 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: there and and we'd have to drive up to the 121 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: hill to the road to get cell service. So every 122 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: so often I would go up there and just to 123 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: check on the kids or whatever. And I went up 124 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: there and I saw like these text messages from Alex 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: and Doug, who are are worked for the production company. 126 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: And they're like, hey can you talk? 127 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Can you talk? And we need to talk to you. 128 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: And I said, hey, sorry, I don't have good cell reception, 129 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: but what's going on they're like, we'd rather say talk 130 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: to you in person. 131 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: I went, oh, shita. 132 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Literally yeah. In order for me to get good sell reception, 133 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: I had to drive down the street and I'm in 134 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: my car and he's like, listen, this is one of 135 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: the hardest phone calls we've ever had to make. And 136 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: they're like, Bravo's just going to go in a different direction, 137 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: and they've offered you three episodes for this season. And 138 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: I said, are you fucking kidding me right now? And 139 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: they're like, well, you know, this is what they're off. 140 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: And I said fuck off and I hung up. I 141 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: was and I got back to the camp and I 142 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: was hysterically crying, hysterically like it ruined my last day 143 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 1: on my trip. And I'm like, you know, and Eddie's like, yeah, 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: thank god. He was all excited, like listen, you had 145 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: a good run, you know. But my initial thought was 146 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: just like devastate, like I felt betrayed. I sent them 147 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: a text. Thank god it didn't go through because my 148 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: reception was bad. I'm like, you guys are fucking assholes. 149 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe you did this to me. Your liars 150 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: what you are? Your liars And it never went through. 151 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't think because I didn't have any reception. But 152 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, then, you know, I got a text from Andy. 153 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: He's like, listen, when you feel better, give me a call. 154 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: So I got home. I tried to, like, you know, 155 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: wrap my brain around what is going on. I did 156 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: feel like a big figure. I felt like I got 157 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: kicked out of the cool girls club. Yeah, like you know, 158 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: you're not good enough to sit with us anymore, goes 159 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: over at that lunch table. Yeah, and then it was 160 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: just scary. So I called Andy. 161 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: I said, listen, I did not expect this, and he says, listen. 162 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: He goes, just think of it this way. When they 163 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: ask you back, it's going to feel real good and 164 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: the viewers are going to be really happy. 165 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, I'm not sure what that means. 166 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: When he said that. Now, the hindsight is twenty twenty 167 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: to make that comment is very cryptic. Do you think 168 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: it was a decision that Andy may have disagreed with? 169 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: I think so. 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: I think so me too. 171 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, of course I haven't heard anything since then. 172 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: Oh my love, listen, I'll let me ask this person. 173 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what I know. As somebody who's 174 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: on the inside, right, Okay, Vicky had a horrible reunion. 175 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: Right the last reunion. 176 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 2: She was on her last reunion. So Vicky got demoted 177 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: the season you were full time, but that was both 178 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: your last season. You both got let go. We all 179 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: saw the writing on the wall for Vicky. Did you 180 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: think that this may be Vicky's last season instead of 181 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: your own? Yes? 182 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that Vicky was going to go because 183 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: they demoted her, and that I would have another season. 184 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. And even me watching your last season, what I 185 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: saw on Twitter at the time was a lot of 186 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: people felt you were playing to the cameras. 187 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: I actually heard that Bravo said the same thing I 188 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: was playing to the camera. 189 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: Was yeah, yeah, do you agree with that? 190 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: No? No, I was in a terrible place in my 191 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: life at that time. I was in this multimillion dollar 192 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: lawsuit then. I have never been in a lawsuit before. 193 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to talk about so many things that 194 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: are going on in my life. Money was flying out 195 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: the door just to protect myself, you know, to the 196 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: attorneys and to fight this. And I was scared. I 197 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: was super scared, so I couldn't. 198 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: I had to be careful what I said, I had 199 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 3: careful what I did and. 200 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: Insign I was just like crumbling, and you know, it 201 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: was just a shitty season for me in the sense 202 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: that they cut out so much of my stuff. They 203 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: cut out my business stuff that we filmed multiple We 204 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: had a big housewife party, you know, at the launch 205 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: and my my CBD company like all these things. We 206 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: had meetings there. We had housewives coming in and talking 207 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: to me like. They cut it all out. They went 208 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: as far as to blur the bottle even if they 209 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: saw at my house. And I'm like, as time was 210 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: going on, I'm like, oh shit, I knew when it 211 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: was airing, I'm like, they're pushing me out. I knew 212 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: so and then so I would. That's why I called 213 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: the producer's liars when I text them, because I'd asked them, 214 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, am I done? Are you pushing me out? 215 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Because this is what kind of looks like you're making 216 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: me look bad. You're like, it's just everything they possibly 217 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: could have done to make they did. 218 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: Do you feel like they had to get rid of 219 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: you and Vickie to make Kelly Dodd the face of 220 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: that particular season. 221 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: I don't know. I really don't know. Because then they 222 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: went around and fired her the next season. 223 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they fire her for reasons you and I 224 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: both know, because she and someone else's quote she was 225 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: on the wrong side of history. 226 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 227 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: So me being a producer, what my sensibility said was, 228 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: Kelly obviously is a star. We all can admit listen, 229 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: disagree with her or agree with her. When it comes 230 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: to reality TV, Kelly Dodd is a star full stop. 231 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: When they let go of you and Vicki Bogs, I 232 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: felt that they are making Kelly Dodd the face of 233 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: this franchies and they need to bring in new blood 234 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: to make it the Kelly Dodge Show because every show 235 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: needs a queen Bee, and I felt that they wanted 236 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: Kelly to be the queen Bee, not saying that. That's 237 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: the truth. That's what I got from it. But you 238 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: didn't feel that way. 239 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. I never thought about that. I never 240 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: thought it. I never saw it that way. 241 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: You know, I try not to think that there is 242 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 3: like one girl on the show that is it's you know, is. 243 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: It the Heather Debreu Show this year? Is it the 244 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: Kelly Dodge Show this year? I see your face. Yeah, 245 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: So I mean it's an ensemble cast. 246 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, And that's the thing when it 247 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: comes to an ensemble cast, every ensemble hast like the 248 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 2: queen bee, right, So I'll just say like, for O see, 249 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: it was a biggie. Obviously you were great addition to 250 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: that show. VICKI started it. She was the queen bee, right. 251 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: And the fact that they tried to make Heather de 252 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: Bro the queen Bee of this season was the worst 253 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: decision ever in life. 254 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: It's not working out. 255 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Heather Debro the flop this season. You cannot have a 256 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: Heather Debro type be the queen bee of an ensemble 257 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: cast because the essence of a queen bee is somebody 258 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: who is likable and somebody who all the ladies can 259 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: rally around with. In no way, shape or form, do 260 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: I believe in my lifetime that the likes of Heather 261 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: Debro will be friends with Gina. 262 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that's the one thing 263 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: that is like so ridiculous, like to have Gina and 264 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: Heather like best friends right out the gate is like, huh. 265 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: We're fall from New Jersey East Coast. We're gonna go 266 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: to New York City eat pizza. 267 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: Who I know, I know, I was actually in New 268 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: York when that happened. I was doing a photoshoot for 269 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: the Ultimate Girls Trip and they called me and they're like, hey, 270 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: let's go out. Can you film with us tomorrow? And 271 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, sorry, no I can't. 272 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: Well, I'm an icon, I'm a legend, and I'm the moment. No, 273 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: thank you. 274 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: I just for me, Like you know, I appreciate everything 275 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: that Bravo has done for me, and I hope that 276 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: they appreciate everything I've done for them. But I'm not 277 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: just going to pop into the show and just be 278 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: like here I am, because to me, it was just 279 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, desperado and my time's 280 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: worth money. 281 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: Oh baby, and you're worth every penny. And please, they're 282 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: not going to use your promos when it comes to 283 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: Housewives of OC, I do believe you are going to 284 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: get asked back and let me tell you why. Okay, 285 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: unlike most fired housewives, you have always been gracious. You 286 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: don't shit talk the network. No, you don't shit talk 287 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: the franchise. No, you're patty here and there about the ratings, 288 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: because the ratings are not as great as it was 289 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: last season during COVID nor the high rated season that 290 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: you were on. You show up for Andy. You and 291 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: Andy have a great relationship. Your tits are in his 292 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: den in the set two says Andy defends you when 293 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: Noela tried to throw you shade. Andy cull had defended you. Girl. 294 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: I know, girl, he loves you. 295 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: We have a good We have a good relationship for sure. 296 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: He didn't talked to you backstage. I watched What Happens 297 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: Live and said, wink wink, let's talk. 298 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: No, And I've actually talked to him since then because 299 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: I have another show opportunity right now and I'm just 300 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: I can't say what it is right now, but I 301 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: had to let him know because I said, listen, there's 302 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about me coming back, and I 303 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: know it's way too soon for that to even like 304 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: the conversations to even happen the show. Still they haven't 305 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: even shot. I mean, they shot the reunion, but they 306 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: haven't even aired the reunion yet. So those decisions I 307 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: think are made after the end of the show. See 308 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: how the reunion goes. If somebody flops, you know this 309 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: is their last chance, They're gone, right, And so I said, 310 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: I have this opportunity. It films in May June. I 311 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: don't know what your schedule is, but I just wanted 312 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: to let you know, and he said, okay, thank you. 313 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't know yet, but can you give the information 314 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: to production? 315 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: So you gave it to Alex and Dougs. I did, 316 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: president and CEO of Evolution Media that produces OC Housewives 317 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: and Beverly Hills. 318 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: Which they are great. I love them both. 319 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: They're both one of the best human beings in the world. 320 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: Like those two guys are just first of all, they're brilliant, yes, 321 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: and they are the sweetest guys in the world. They 322 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: have no mean bone in their bodies. Atom I will 323 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: always give Evolution their props, and they make fantastic television. 324 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: They really do. 325 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me ask you, knowing that I have 326 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: a big mouth, would you tell me, hey, by the way, 327 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: we want you to come back. 328 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: No, you'd wait to the last minute. 329 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: You have a point there. But listen, I follow you 330 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: on Twitter. You love to tease the girls. You'll take 331 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: a picture or your grand staircase holding a phone and said, 332 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: oh the call I've been waiting for, or are something 333 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: you know cryptic like that, right, which I think is 334 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: great because those Housewife fans. Baby, they hang on to 335 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: every word, and I love that they do. I will 336 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: say this, I would be too afraid to lose you. 337 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: They need me right now. 338 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 2: I need you right now. I stopped watching OC after 339 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: episode seven. 340 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a little difficult. 341 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 2: Difficult means boring, Difficult means hard to watch, Difficult means 342 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: a hard pass. 343 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not shading anybody on the cast, but it 344 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: takes a special somebody and a certain personality to shine 345 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: on reality TV. And I feel like we have a 346 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: handful of girls on OC that don't They're not qualified. 347 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: And when you watch the show, now, do you feel 348 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: like they ruined your show? 349 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: I feel like there's room for improvement, for sure. You know, 350 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: I hear a lot of the girls saying this is 351 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: a transition here. They're bringing in a new cam. I'm like, 352 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: I don't even know. 353 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: What that means me neither, because it doesn't exist. 354 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: I've never heard that before. It's a transition, yere No, No, 355 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: you're just saying like there's new people in here. So 356 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: if it sucks, it's because we're in transition. I don't 357 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: even know what it means. Well, listen, it's not horrible 358 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: show's not horrible, it's just for me, it's very hard 359 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: to judge Orange County. 360 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 3: I can watch Atlanta, I can watch. 361 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: New Jersey right now and just be like, holy shit, 362 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: this is good TV. But when I watch Orange County 363 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: because I was part of that cast, it's just it's 364 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: hard for me. It's hard for me to judge. So 365 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: that's why I leave a lot of it up to Teddy, 366 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: who gets me in trouble all the time because she's 367 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: just calling it like it is, and I saying, I 368 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: keep going, just wait, just wait till Beverly Hills airs, 369 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: and you're gonna I'm gonna have to say things about 370 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: Kyle or somebody, which I win because I absolutely love her. 371 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: But you know, it's hard. 372 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 3: For me to recap oh see, because I'm like, this 373 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: shit sucks. 374 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more of my conversation with Tamra Judge. 375 00:18:54,359 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after be a quick as this 376 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: is reality with the King and I'm Carlo King. Let's 377 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: get back into my conversation with my girl, Tamra Judge. So, 378 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: if you were to come back, because I believe that 379 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: in order for Heather to come back, that Kelly had 380 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: to go yeah, okay, you agree with me. 381 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: I do agree with that. I don't think that Heather 382 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: has any control over who stays and who goes. It's 383 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: not like, okay, we'll come back, but you got to 384 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: fire that person because they don't play like that. 385 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: No, they don't. 386 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: They don't play like that. You know, it's their decision 387 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: who goes. And I do think that Kelly went, as 388 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: you said, because of some political stuff unfortunately, and she 389 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: would have never worked with Heather. I personally think it'd 390 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: be great TV take us back to Ireland. That was 391 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: great TV. 392 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: Amazing. 393 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean it wasn't broke. I don't know 394 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: why they had to fix it. 395 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: Speaking of fixed, so if you were asked to come back, 396 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 2: and if you have a power to come back to 397 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: the show, who would you get rid of and who 398 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: would you want to bring in with you? 399 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: Well, I think that I would get rid of Emily. 400 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: Gina's on the fence. I feel like she's evolving as 401 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: time goes on. I kind of like Noela on the TV. 402 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: I know that's not a popular choice, but I feel 403 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: like it was her first season. She was trying to 404 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: act a little bit, but she's beautiful, she has great comebacks. 405 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: Great comebacks, like when I called her the village idiot 406 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: on Watch What Happens Live and she said something like 407 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: oh coming from the most iconic village idiot. I literally 408 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: sent her a DM. I'm like, girl, that was good. 409 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: That was good. 410 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that right. I love you so much. 411 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: Because I like if I could poke fun of people, 412 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: like if they poke fun of me back, like, I'm like, yeah, 413 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: bring it, But I don't I have super thicks. 414 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: Again, I don't really give two shits about that. 415 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 1: But I feel like Noela can be Like if she 416 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: gets another chance, I feel like if she learns from 417 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: the mistakes she did, then she could be a really 418 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: good housewife. Jen Armstrong, bye, goodbye. I mean, there's no 419 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: other word. I don't want to see another marriage breakup 420 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: like we've seen it bazillion times. 421 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: I don't want to see a marriage breakup. 422 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to see a vow and nule. I 423 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: don't want any of that. It's played and she just, 424 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: you know, she went into it and we have some 425 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: mutual friends. 426 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: I just want to promote my business. I just want 427 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: to promote my business. 428 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: And it kind of shows I heard that too. 429 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of infomercial going on on Orange 430 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: County right now. 431 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: You did not mention Shannon. 432 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: I want her there so I can come back take 433 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: care of some business. 434 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why you are one of the greatest 435 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: house bives of all time. Hoddy. 436 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't hate Shannon. I do not hate her 437 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: at all. I actually have I have love for her, 438 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: just very disappointed and hurt by her actions. So I 439 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: would love to go back and discuss that. 440 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: And what's interesting is you were so beloved by the 441 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: fans and the crew, and Shannon doesn't seem to be 442 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: the nicest when it comes to her relationship with the 443 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: producers and the crew, And do you feel like, well, damn, bitch, 444 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: I'm the nicest to the crew. I'm the nicest to production. 445 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: I give my life. You got Shannon over here, who 446 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: takes off her mic if it gets too hot in 447 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: the kitchen, and who yells at you guys, but she 448 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: gets to stay. 449 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah and calls them in the middle of the night screaming. 450 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, No, that was hard for me. That was 451 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: really really hard for me to wrap my brain around. 452 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: It's like, I give you my all, I'm good to everybody, 453 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm respectful to the network. Have I pissed them off before? 454 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure I have, But for the most part, like 455 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: I was a really good employee and to see like 456 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: to be kicked to the curb and see other people 457 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: that maybe don't treat the crew well, maybe lie about 458 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: what they're showing, making up storylines, treat production bad, and 459 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what kind of message are you putting 460 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: out there that you can treat production like shit, makeups 461 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: storylines and still be employed. To me, I'm a business owner. 462 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: I look at those things in detail like that. 463 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: No, no, I don't play those games. If you're mean 464 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: to the crew, you're out. That's that's that's that's That's 465 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: always been my philosophy, period point full stop. 466 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: In the story, the crew and the talent are working together, 467 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: they're they're they're equals. 468 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: As far as I'm concerned, they are total equals. 469 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: And you can't like they're making a show for Bravo 470 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: and we're all doing this together, like we're a team. 471 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: Like there's no room for you to go and tell 472 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: them off or take your mic off or I'm not 473 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: doing that or you know, it's just it's a bad behavior. 474 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: So when it comes to the announcement that Bravo is 475 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: splitting the New York City franchise into two. Obviously, the 476 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: New York City Franchise is the second installment after OC. 477 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: Do you think that they need to do that to 478 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: the OC, Yes, yeah, I do. 479 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm listen. 480 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: I'm super excited about all these news shows that come out, 481 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 3: like Dubai. 482 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: When I saw the work and everything like, this is 483 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: how you do it, this is how like it looks 484 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: so good, Miami, Holy. 485 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: Should fantastic, fantastic. 486 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why they're on Peacock. I mean, I 487 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: don't know that one's better better than the other, but 488 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't understand why they went straight to Peacock and 489 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: then went over to Bravo. 490 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: So I thought, oh, I'll tell you. 491 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to know. And then I instantly thought 492 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: like Dubai was going to go straight to Peacock because 493 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: I was told a couple of years ago from somebody 494 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: from the inside that works at NBC that in the 495 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: next two years, this is what's going to happen. Some 496 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: of the shows that are not doing so well, they're 497 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: going to transferm over to Peacock, and that's where they're 498 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: going to go, and then they're going to start creating 499 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: new shows, new franchises. So I thought, oh, okay, this 500 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: is it. We're going to all. 501 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: Start going to Peacock because streaming really is where it's at. 502 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: No disrespect to Bravo, but I'm sure they know that 503 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: as well, Like the ratings are going down, you know what, 504 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: The ratings are going down everywhere, everywhere, every show is 505 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: going down. So I thought, oh, sure they're all going 506 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: to go to Peacock. 507 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: But no, yeah, no, no, So tell me why. 508 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: They're on Peacock because I have not gotten a straight 509 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: answer about that. 510 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: Okay, this is the straight answer again not saying confirmed sources. 511 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 2: But Peacock is a new subscription in the streaming space. 512 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: In order for Peacock to have subscribers, you need people 513 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: to sign up, So you need shows on Peacock that 514 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: is worthy of people spending four ninety nine every month 515 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: to watch a show, right, because they're not going to 516 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: watch repeats of all these housewife franchises. So Miami Coming 517 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: Back from the Dead was was an experiment to see 518 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: if they were able to get people excited enough to 519 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: subscribe to Peacock because you need the subscription and because 520 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: Miami and me and you agree on this was a 521 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 2: fantastic season. It now said, Okay, we've built an audience 522 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: on streaming. So to your point you just made five 523 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: minutes ago, they now have said because of Miami Housewives 524 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: and because of Optimist Girls Trip, we've now have proven 525 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: that an audience will pay to watch content on this 526 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: platform versus five months until it's on Bravo. That being said, 527 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: I believe that the legacy of New York would be 528 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: on Bravo, and I think the reboot is going to 529 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: be on Peacock. 530 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: Oh shit, yes, I never even thought about. 531 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: It like that, because, like you said about the ratings, 532 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: I don't think you want to mess with the ratings 533 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: anymore when it comes to New York City, because if 534 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: you try to make New York City have the same 535 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: or higher ratings than this previous season, you're not gonna 536 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: accomplish that with some new faces. You're just not. But 537 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: if you got Bethany, Ramona Jail, Luan Tamra, meet you 538 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: and the world, We're gonna tune into Bravo Tuesday night 539 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: at nine o'clock and watch it live. 540 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: What do you think that the new show? Is it 541 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: going to be like a full twenty episode. Is it 542 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: going to be broken down to like Ultimate Girls Trip, 543 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: where it's only you know, six to eight episodes. 544 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 2: As a content creator, you go in thinking like, okay, 545 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: we may have this amount of episodes, but of course, 546 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: if the content is good, you get more. Yes, I 547 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: believe they'll try to budget ten episodes, and I think 548 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: they can squeeze out fourteen depending on how good it is. 549 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: Twelve or fourteen. Yeah. 550 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 551 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: Do you think that they're going to do that to 552 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: Orange County? 553 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: I think they need to because this season has proven 554 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: that you can't bring back a familiar face and expect 555 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: that familiar face to connect with some newbies. Because again, 556 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: the essence of the Housewise franchise was organic friendships, and 557 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: that's why Miami works. And when you watch Miami, they 558 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 2: all know each other. I mean, Gurney was the wedding 559 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: planner to Alex. It was right. All of those women 560 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: had a history and that's why you enjoyed it. Even 561 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: if you come back to the OC, it will still 562 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: have to make sense in terms of your friendships and 563 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: not just seeing a bunch of strangers live in a house. 564 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: That's the real world. On MTV, we don't need that, right, Yeah, I. 565 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: Feel like there's too many new faces and not a 566 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: lot of organic friendships. As much as they want to 567 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: make it sound like, oh, we're best friends, I don't 568 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: think so. 569 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 3: I'm talking about Orange County. So how would you fix 570 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 3: Orange County? 571 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: I would bring you back, Vigi back, I will keep Heather, 572 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: I would keep Shannon, and I will bring back one 573 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: more wild card. Now. Look, I love Gretchen and Rossi 574 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: because she is a bag of mess and at the 575 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: end of the day, her and Slade are the Spencer 576 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: and Heidi a Bravo. I don't know if that's a 577 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: compliment or insult, but take it either way. On a compliment, 578 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: So I would watch it if it's Tamra, Vicky, Heather, Debro, 579 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: Shanna Badore and yeah, and Gretchen. I'm tuning in live 580 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: and I am going to call Doug and Alex go 581 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: on set. 582 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about Noela? Would you keep her with that cast? 583 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 2: No? No, I think she should go on a WEE 584 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: TV marriage boot camp show. But the New Boyfriend. 585 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: The one show I would never do. I said we TV, 586 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: that's wheur Housewives. 587 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: Go to die. I think Noela should do that. 588 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Oh, she will. 589 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: She will, Oh, she certainly will, or she'll go on 590 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: like the challenge. So let's talk about the Ultimate Girls Trip. 591 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: Let's how dramatic, fun juicy is that show? 592 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I was a little bit concerned about 593 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: doing it because I'm like, how is this gonna happen? Like, 594 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: there's girls that like some of them I knew. I 595 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: didn't know them very well, but I knew them. Like, 596 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: put these girls that don't really know each other in 597 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: a house and just to free for all, like see 598 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: what happens. 599 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: And oddly enough, we all understood this assignment. 600 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: Yes, and we all you know, I really do you 601 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: think it's going to be great TV? And Andy keeps 602 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: gushing about it? You know, it's all in how they 603 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: edit it and what shows what doesn't show. It was fun, 604 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun, and it was exhausting 605 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: because we were only there. I can't remember, like seven 606 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: or eight days or something total. And it was NonStop 607 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: work and it had the whole feeling of Big Brother 608 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: because there was cameras everywhere. I'm like, oh shit, so 609 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: we VICKI and I would be in the kitchen eating 610 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: cold pizza, you know, talking shit probably and then I 611 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: look up and I'm like, that camera over there is 612 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: on and it's moving as I'm moving. So those those 613 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: are the times that I'm like not looking forward to 614 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: at all because I'm like, you know, you get jounk, 615 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: you forget about the cameras. 616 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: Who knows it's going to come out of your mouth. 617 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: But they knew what they were doing with those camera 618 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,719 Speaker 1: and when they were told us, these cameras are expensive, 619 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: do not cover them, do not put anything over them, 620 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: don't touch them. Yeah, okay, okay. 621 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: Did you find that's sort of reality fun? Because obviously 622 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: you spend many years on Housewives, where you work a 623 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: couple of days a week, a few hours a day, 624 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: and you get to go home and have a life. 625 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: How did it feel to be not trapped but confined, 626 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: trapped trapped? 627 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: It was hard. It was like I said, it's a 628 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: lot of work. It was eighteen hours that we would 629 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: really film because we were filming constantly, even if the 630 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: cameras were down. It was literally two at least two 631 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: crews during the day. Do you know, they work and 632 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: then another one comes in and you know, not a 633 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: lot of sleep. 634 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: We did not sleep, a lot, a lot of drinking, 635 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: a lot of events. 636 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: There was a lot of events, so it's I can't wait. 637 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: I don't even know when it's coming out. 638 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: I think June. We've been told so many different months, 639 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: but the last I heard end of June. 640 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: And do you think this one will top the first 641 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: Ultimate Girls Trip? 642 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: I think it's different, Like they are in this very 643 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: beautiful tropical place, and you know, it's just a different feel. 644 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: I think that it's going to be more more drama, 645 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: which you know, and ultimately that's what the fans like. 646 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: They like the drama, so it's probably going to be 647 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: more entertaining, but totally different phil from the first one. 648 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: I liked the first one. I enjoyed it. I thought 649 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: it was great. It was it's really interesting now. I 650 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: remember years and years ago Andy saying, you know, one day, 651 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: when Housewives starts winding down, we're going to take girls 652 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: from different franchises, throw them on an island and see 653 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: what happens. 654 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: And when that came out, I'm like, oh, Okay, this 655 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: is happening. 656 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: This is happening. I feel like things are happening at 657 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: Bravo that we don't know yet, you know, Like you say, like, well, 658 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: why did they get rid of you like you were 659 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: a team player. You did this, you great, fans loved you. 660 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a bigger picture. I don't know what 661 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: it is yet, but I do think there's a bigger picture. 662 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think the OC will be 663 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: split into a legacy and new women you. Regardless of that, 664 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: you are one hundred percent coming back to the show. 665 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind. So that show you 666 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: have in May, is it a dating Well, it's not 667 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: a dating show because you're married. Is it a docu series? 668 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: Can you say that much? 669 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: At least it's a competition show. 670 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: It's a competition show. Okay, So you're not competing with 671 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: the docu So I think you'll be allowed to do it. 672 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I will definitely be allowed to do it. We're 673 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: just ironing out contract stuff right now. 674 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're coming back. You heard it here first, 675 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: Carlos can't give you this exclusive Tama Judge. Not confirmed, 676 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: but confirmed by me. You are coming back to the 677 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: Elsie Housewives, regardless. 678 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: Do I get the intro she's back. 679 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: They could bring Charae back twice. They could bring you back, baby. 680 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: I've heard that. It's like Hello, Hello, I'm back. I'm like, no, 681 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: I want a low key return. I want to be like, hey, 682 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to know. 683 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: I don't want anybody to know if I'm coming back. 684 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that right now. And I want it 685 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: to be something like Heather's taken Shannon to lunch and 686 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: she gets to the table and there I. 687 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: Am ooh ooh. I'll give you my phone number at 688 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: least text me be coming back, and I promise I 689 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: won't tell anybody. Okay, Okay, that's the deal. Did Denise 690 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 2: Richards really try to sleep with you? 691 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: I have no comment on that, but. 692 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: Is it being discussed on The Ultimate Girls Trip with 693 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: Brandy Glanvale. Yes, if you wanted to, would you sleep 694 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 2: with Denise Richards if. 695 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't married? Yes, it's Denise fucking Richards girls, hot. 696 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: Hot as fuck, hot as fuck. Okay, last question? Who 697 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: is You're a mount rushmore of housewives. 698 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: Kyle, Bethany, Vicky and Nini and then Andy too. 699 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: I feel like Andy space needs to be up there 700 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 3: as well. 701 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's a good Listen. I have to say this, 702 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 2: and I do mean this. You and Andy's relationship makes 703 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: me so happy because as a producer, nothing makes me 704 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: happy to know with my cast that I work with 705 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 2: love me as much as I love them, and no 706 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: matter if me and another cast member get into it, 707 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 2: there's I still love there. Yeah, And I see that 708 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 2: with you and Andy, I really do. And it makes 709 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: me happy to know that you guys still have a 710 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: great relationship. Thank you. 711 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I love my dorm I mean long history, 712 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen years I've known him. The hardest thing for me, 713 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: after you know, acknowledging the fact and absorbing the fact 714 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: that I wasn't coming back, is missing the crew. That 715 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: was so hard for me, Like these were guys that 716 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: were because we pretty much had the same crew the 717 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: entire time I was filming, and these are guys that 718 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: are in my house like all the time every day. 719 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember my little son who's now twenty 720 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: one years old, used to make them nachos, And you know, 721 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: that was hard. That was really tough not being a 722 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: part of that family anymore and feeling like okay, it's over, 723 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: and it was just such a huge you know, the cast. 724 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: Then there was Bravo, going to Bravo and going to 725 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: watch What Happens Live, and my relationship with Andy and 726 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: my relationship with all the producers in the camera guy 727 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: and the audio and the PA and Doug and Alex 728 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: and all that. That was really so hard for me 729 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: to not have them in my house. 730 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: And I could tell your producers girls, so on, behalf 731 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: of all the producers in the world, thank you. We 732 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: need more women and men for that matter, like you 733 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: who appreciates the crew as much as we appreciate the cast. 734 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: So I on, behalf of the industry, want to thank 735 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: you for the endless amount of effort, year's dedication that 736 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 2: you brought to the OC. So I will give your 737 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: flowers virtually. 738 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. 739 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: Yes, so, Tamer, where can people find you and listen 740 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: to you and all those wonderful things? 741 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: Yes to teas in a pod? Definitely, we are wherever 742 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: you hear your podcast, We're there Hashtown Twatts, which we 743 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: like to call each other. 744 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 3: And then of course on social media Tamar Judge. And 745 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 3: then if you're into CBD and a little bit. 746 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: Of THHC, I have my CBD line online Vinus CBD 747 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: and come see us at cut Fitness. 748 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: Yes, well, thank you, Tamer Judge, legendary housewive who will 749 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: make a comeback to the OC somehow, some way. Now 750 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 2: you're just spreading rumors and that is going to happen. 751 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, my love. That was a treat, right Listen. 752 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: The beauty of this podcast is I'm meeting people that 753 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: I've also been a fan of for a very long time. 754 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: And Tamor Judge is such an iconic cast member on 755 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Wards County. But she's so real, 756 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: she's so relatable, and I feel like my conversation with 757 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: her gives you guys a much better perspective on who 758 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 2: she is, not just as an icon, but as a woman. 759 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: She's so smart and the fact that she's just not thirsty. 760 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all something, A lot of housewives who 761 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: get fired off their shows, they a love to release 762 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: a statement saying, oh, well, you know, I'm going on 763 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: to do other things. Tamor keeps no, I was fired 764 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,479 Speaker 2: and it hurt my feelings. I respect that. And number two, 765 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: she owns it, like would I like to go back 766 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: to the OC. Absolutely, And last but not least, I 767 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 2: strongly believe Tamar Judge is going to be asked back 768 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: on the Real Housewives Orange County. And when she does 769 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: get asked I'll make sure to get this exclusive interview 770 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: where she talks about it. Thoughts, opinions read honey Yeah 771 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 2: about my conversation with Tamara. Email me at Reality with 772 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 2: the King at stitcher dot com or leave me a 773 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 2: voicemail at three one oh five ninety three eight one 774 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 2: eight eight. 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