1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Tune in, plug in, drop in. That's uh a new 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Timothy Leary. Okay, yeah, I was like, I don't think 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: that's right. Tune in, plug in, tune in, drop in, 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: plug in, get in, fit in, fit in, sit in, 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: sit in. That was more Timothy Leary. It's tim Was 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Timothy Leary married or an he date? Um, Like, I 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: don't know, Jazz drop Win or somebody. They had a 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: lot of free love, right, so at the very least 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: he had some he got something, he got some action. 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we do an episode that's just the free 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: love movement since everybody was sleeping with everybody, like, there's 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: no particular pairing to look at, just a bunch of 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: fucking going on with no consequences. If we when we 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: do David Bowie, it's going to be a minute because 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: he sleep It was so many people. I can't wait 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: for the Bowie episode we might have to do. Maybe 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: we do multiple Bowies. We might have to Bowie and 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: uh and him on Bowie and Mick Jagger, Bowie and 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: whoever else was. His first wife was really like instrumental 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: in his life, not no pun intended, but his first 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: wife was a guitar but she made David Bowie. She 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: helped make David Bowie like what he is. But anyway, 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: this is not an episode about David Bowie. Yeah, but 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: it's turning into it. Please go on. All right, let's 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: talk about Surprize. Different episode for you. The title doesn't match, 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: but you're getting something else one day. We will. We 27 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: let our hearts guide us in this podcast. We do 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: research and then we come and talk about something we 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: know nothing about. That's a great podcast, right, finish that 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: one yet, a man, Well, look, we got some important 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: housekeeping to do at the beginning of this show because 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: once again, tragically we've got to go sit down out 33 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: in corrections corner. You're such a loser. Yeah, this one's 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: on me, I guess um. Although I was trying to 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: dig up the source that misinformed me and I couldn't 36 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: find it, so maybe it was me. But I still 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: think it was just written wrong somewhere out there because 38 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: I don't make mistakes. No I do, And here's what 39 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: I made. We had an episode recently about Sid Vicious 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: and Nancy Sponging. If you haven't heard that one, check 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: it out. It's a wild ride. But near the end, 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: talking about some other band members, from different bands, and 43 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: the name Jerry Only came up and I said he 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: was the drummer from the Misfits, and punk fans across 45 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: the globe cringed and passed out because Jerry Only was 46 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: the basis for the Misfits. Duh that wrong? And it's 47 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: not an insult to Jerry Only too, because you know, 48 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: bassis or one thing, but a drummer. Come on, damn, 49 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: you gotta drummers can take it. I had a friend 50 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: and I would go watch him play and only watch 51 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: him because I swear this guy didn't have a brain 52 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: in his head, but he had a brain separate for 53 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: each limb because they all just operated independently of each 54 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: other and made this incredible music. I've never seen somebody 55 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: drum like that. And uh, and the coordination making all four, 56 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, two hands and two feet all do a 57 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: different thing at the same time is insane to me. 58 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm trying to get my fingers to do 59 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: different things and and they're all tripping over each other. 60 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: I can't imagine being a good drummer. Good drummers are 61 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: really impressive. So there I insulted drummers and I lifted 62 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: them up a little bit too. That's what we do 63 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: here on Ridiculous Romance. We kick you and then we 64 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: help you back. And yes, so we want to thank 65 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: at old timey cartoon villain for catching that one, for 66 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: us staying sharp. Jerry Only would be proud. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, 67 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: And with apologies to Jerry Only, who I know is 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: a longtime listener of the show, I'm big fan. But 69 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: that's not all. We've also got a mail called awesome. 70 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: This one is from Jamie So Marge who wrote during 71 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: the episode about Nesbit, White and Thaw, which, now that 72 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: I write that out, looks like a law firm. But anyways, 73 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: that's true. Coming on and that's White and Thal have 74 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: you have you assassinated your wife's lover. We've spent a 75 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: lot of time defending ourselves. Now let us defend you 76 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: if you if you need to escape the law called Nesbit, 77 00:04:53,480 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: White and Thal perfect. So yeah, we were Where was I? 78 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: Where was I? When you all were describing Stanford White? 79 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: The first image that popped in my head was Dr 80 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Robotnick from Sonic the Hedgehog Love It, So through that 81 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: whole episode in my mind was Dr Robotnick, an old 82 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: timey clothing doing all those things. Awesome, that's pretty impressive. 83 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: Pretty close. He did giant red mustache. Yeah, his pants 84 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: pulled up too high. He trapped animals in Little Robots? Yeah, 85 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: definitely all tracks? Yeah, it all tracks. But did Dr 86 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: Robotnick ruin three hundred seventy eight young women? Oh God, 87 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: I hope not. Stanford White is worse than Dr ROBOTICI yeah, okay, 88 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: that's fair. Otherwise I need to really re evaluate the 89 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: time I spent with the sonic that Jog games. What 90 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: a weird character grate to give this. Somebody should tune villain. 91 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: Somebody should inform Jim Carrey what he's representing. Right, But no, 92 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Thanks Jamie for for reaching out. That was awesome. Yes, 93 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I also gave us a great bunch of great suggestions 94 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: for future shows, So thank you for that as well. Indeed, 95 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: so now that we've got all that out of the way, 96 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: as the house clean, now, I think the house is 97 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: as clean as it's going to get as which is 98 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: its usual state at any given time. Our house is 99 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: as clean as it's gonna get. That's not very clean 100 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: spoiler alert, look for working on it. So it's a 101 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: never ending project. You all know, everybody knows it. So 102 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: with the house clean, we are here today to talk 103 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: about a Minotep the third and his wife, Queen Ta. Yes, 104 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: this is a BC power couple of epic proportions. They 105 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: reigned over a golden period in ancient Egypt, and she 106 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: was the mother of the next pharaoh, the grandmother of 107 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: Teuton common and only we all have heard of King 108 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: tut Uh, notorious batman villain. And t A was also 109 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: very influential in foreign really tions, and together they had 110 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: quite an influence on ancient Egypt. Uh. Hey, guys, this 111 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: is an ancient Egyptian story, and you know what that means. 112 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: There's not a whole lot of documentation about what went 113 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: on here, but we managed to scrape together a pretty 114 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: solid story. And we're gonna tell you all about these 115 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: two coming up now, Hey, their French come listen. Well, 116 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: Elia and Diana got some stories to tell. There's no 117 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: match making a romantic tips. It's just about ridiculous relationships, 118 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: a love. There might be any type of person at all, 119 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: and abstract concept our concrete wall. But if there's a 120 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: story were the second Glance show Ridiculous Romance, a production 121 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: of iHeart radio. So yes, let's talk about t A. First. 122 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: She was born around b C. That's a long time ago, 123 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: long ast time ago. That is, well, okay, look around, 124 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: if you're gonna say around, just round it up to 125 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: fourteen dred, right, come on around. Well if you just 126 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, if you're ballparking, my ballpark is such a weird, 127 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: weirdly specific number. Well, every everything in ancient Egypt is 128 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: maybe this, I feel like, So, I guess they got 129 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: some DNA evidence now from mummies and stuff that's like 130 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: pretty like, oh, this is definitely something, But most stuff 131 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: is like we're pretty sure and we're kind of guessing 132 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: and this might be a thing, and we're argued. We've 133 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: been arguing about this for a hundred years, you know. Yeah. 134 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: This also just for a weird date perspective that just 135 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: flashed into my mind. This is four hundred BC. That's 136 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: roughly sixteen hundred years before Ella Goblis, which was roughly 137 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: eight hundred years ago now, so almost as long between 138 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: Amenotep and t A and Ella Abolis as Ella Ablis 139 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: to now, long as time ago is what I'm saying. 140 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: Very cool, Yeah, a lot on gas time, I guess. Yeah, 141 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: So TIA's father was named yu Ya. He was a 142 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: provincial priest and commander of the royal chariots. He owned 143 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: a very large plot of land, so he was considered 144 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: to be one of the wealthiest Egyptians of the time. 145 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: So pretty sweet rich dad. Her mother, too Ya, was 146 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: like a lady in waiting type servant for the queen Mattemwa, 147 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: who was married to a minute the second. They were 148 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: very useful that way, with the first, second, third. You 149 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: always know who kim's next, who went first? Um And 150 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: some experts believe that as parents were not Egyptian but 151 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: foreign born, perhaps from Nubia. Some debate about that, but 152 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: it's interesting because t A, if she was foreign born, 153 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: it would have been unusual for her to be selected 154 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: as a wife for the pharaoh. So that that's why 155 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: they're kind of like, who know, We're not quite sure, 156 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, So the whole family probably lived in the 157 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: palace or near it, and we're in and out of 158 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: there all the time. And too Yeah was also a 159 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: priestess for the Cult of Men, who was the Egyptian 160 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: god of male sexual potency. He was usually worshiped around 161 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: harvest time because he was it was all about fertility 162 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: for everything, not just not just men, but also plants, um. 163 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: But of course it was all about having kids to 164 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: don't worry. Uh. He is depicted in human form holding 165 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: his erect penis in his left hand and a flail, 166 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: which is a threshing tool in his right hand. That 167 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: is m Is that how you'd like to be memorialized? 168 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't say memorialized. That is how I 169 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: would like to be forgotten. Yeah, during the Festival of Men, 170 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: they would play all these games in his honor. Stark naked. 171 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I mean, you know, you gotta show 172 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: off to the god of fertility. Let it flop around. Yeah, 173 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: we want to see it. Why why hide it from 174 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: this guy? It's this whole deal, all right. He needs 175 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: to be able to see what he's working with. They 176 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: would they have this game where they would all climb 177 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: a huge tent pole. Yeah, very subtle. Worship of men 178 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: also involved eating Egyptian lettuce. Egyptian lettuce doesn't look like 179 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: our typical iceberg or green leaf lettuce or anything like that. 180 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: It's actually more of a tall stock that grows straight up. 181 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: And here's a cool little science trick about Egyptian lettuce. 182 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: When you rub the leaves, a white milky sap I 183 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: guess kind of erupts from its stock, and that that 184 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: goo is actually latex. So it's just too many connections here, 185 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: not of penis stuff going on with this. Yeah, we 186 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: we get it. Lettuce. Okay, call down a little, a 187 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: little much really, to be honest, like kind of little 188 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: heavy handed. They're a little on the nose. Just don't 189 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: get it on my nose. Oh god, No, you take 190 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: this lettuce, you'd first offer it as a sacrifice and 191 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: then you'd eat it because this lettuce was believed to 192 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: be an aphrodisiac. Can you imagine the Egyptian lettuce and 193 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: some French celery all mits together in a salad. We 194 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: really make vegetables do a lot of heavy lifting around here. 195 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Hey they are I gotta make your horny too. You 196 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: get an egg plant in the zucchini in there, you yourself, nice, 197 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: nice fertile salad. Who knows when it happened after a 198 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: night of that kind of salad, grossest salad egg plant 199 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: and what now? I'm not interested anyway. And women would 200 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: touched the penis of men on his statue in the 201 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: hopes of getting pregnant and hoping for fertility, and that's 202 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: still something that goes on today. Like they touched the 203 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: penis the statue and they're like, I hope this works. 204 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: They grossly misunderstand reproduction. Men appears and he's like, you 205 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: know you have to do more than touch a penis, right, 206 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: I'll send you a scroll about it. But I think 207 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: typically no, it was just that they touched it hoping 208 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: that they would be fertile, not that touching the penis 209 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: would make them pregnant, but that it would give them 210 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: luck in getting pregnant, right yeah, yeah, yeah. Man would 211 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: be like, oh, thanks for the hands ee, I'll make you. 212 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: I'll make you not barren. So yeah, so this is 213 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: what Ta's mom's getting up to, I guess. And her 214 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: dad too was also involved in with men worships, so 215 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: that's what they were getting up to, squeezing, let us 216 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: playing games naked. And she grows up in the palace 217 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: and she has some options open to her. Apparently Egyptian women, 218 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: even though it was still a very patriarchal society in 219 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: ancient Egypt, they had more options open to them than 220 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: you might think. Um Noble women like t a could 221 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: be priestesses for a god or goddess, kind of like 222 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: her mom was doing. Um. They could be professional mourners 223 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: who were basically paid to like cry for people, I 224 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: guess and comfort the bereaved. I guess it's kind of 225 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: like a funeral director now, like you would maybe prepare 226 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: the body and stuff, or I was kind of fixturing 227 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: someone who just got paid to like go to Like 228 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: I kind of want that, like if you can't get 229 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of actors to come and just look like 230 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: so miserable, Oh my god, like for people who are, 231 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: like I guess, terrible people and have no one to 232 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: come to their funeral, Like that's so sad. I know, 233 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: after a life in the theater, I hope that actors 234 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: do show up and cry at my funeral, but without 235 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: being paid. Yeah, but because for real and then they're like, 236 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: I can use your death as a impetus for years 237 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: and my auditions. Yeah. I hope my death plays a 238 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: strong part in somebody getting cast in Death of a 239 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Salesman one day in Angels in America. There it is, 240 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: I got it. Because she could also choose to make 241 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: perfume or we've textiles or she could be a dancer, musician, 242 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: or acrobat, employed at temples or at court. That that 243 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: was a noble woman's pursuits. Um, so she had some options, 244 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: some career paths available to her. Yeah, that's better than 245 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: I had, I know, right, I was like, there's some option, 246 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: there's some good options here. Actually. Um, but t A 247 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: was destined to be queen, and she married a Menotep 248 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: probably when she was around eleven or twelve years. You've 249 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: got all these career options laid out for you, nine 250 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: year old. Pick your path wisely, you've got one year 251 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: to never mind, you're going to be married after the king. Yeah, 252 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: pretty much, that's fine. You could do words, and she 253 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: did all right. And of course, in ancient Egypt, you know, 254 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: generally speaking, a lot easier to die in ancient Egypt 255 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: than it is today. So they kind of were like, 256 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: we gotta get on on. Yeah, you're looking at your 257 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, fifties is like old age kind of now 258 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm in a tip. We're not sure exactly when he 259 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: was born. We're not even sure how old he was 260 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: when he came to power. A lot of people think 261 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: he was around ten to twelve. What some people thought 262 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: maybe even as young as two, but that doesn't really 263 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: make a lot of sense with the story that follows. Yeah, 264 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: because he reigned for thirty eight years, so it's like, 265 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: I think he was probably ten to twelve just given 266 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,119 Speaker 1: the events of his life. That's my my very professional, 267 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: incredibly academic, egyptology trained opinion. Yeah, we have recently watched 268 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: The Mummy, so we know what we're talking about, basically, 269 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: Rachel wise well. Plus also, two years after he ascended 270 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: to the throne, he married t A, So it's likely 271 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: that he did that, you know, between twelve and fourteen 272 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: years old, and not when he is four, right, because 273 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: he you know, you get married when you're ready to 274 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: have some kids, Like that's the point. So she was 275 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: probably old enough to have children, and he was probably 276 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: old enough to have children. And back then that meant 277 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: your ten to twelve. Any time between Tener twelve, if 278 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: you were thirteen, it was like, Wow, what a grandma, mate, 279 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: I guess this one's done. A Minutep was the ninth 280 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: ruler of the Eighteenth dynasty. For those keeping track at home, 281 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: he inherited a huge empire to this thing stretched from 282 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: Syria to the Sudan Uh. This was when the Egypt 283 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: was pretty broad in terms of how much land they controlled. 284 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: During the thirty eight years of his reign, Egypt was 285 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: stronger and more powerful than ever. During this time, they 286 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: had bumper harvests. They had just years of peace and 287 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: a steady supply of gold coming in from the Sudan region. 288 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, very helpful cash money. I mean this was 289 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: given them the upper hand all that their trade negotiations 290 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: with other nations. Egypt is on top right now with 291 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: a Mintotep in charge, because see he was very innovative, 292 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: He had a lot of foresight. Um, he was a 293 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: great sportsman. He loved the outdoors just at all and all. 294 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Pretty cool guy. No other pharaoh built as many temples 295 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: and monuments as a Minotep the third except for Ramsey's, 296 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: the second who ruled for a longer period. But like, look, 297 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: nobody Ramsey's the second is the is the goat, right, 298 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking lebron of pharaoh's. This guy was untouchable, 299 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: so we're not here to compare to rams right, Okay, 300 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: Ramsey's he's ruining the curve. Yeah, yeah, So excluding Ramsey's 301 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: the second was, Yeah, some of his monuments and temples 302 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: include the very famous Luxor Temple. Didn't we see a 303 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,120 Speaker 1: blue man group there? We did? This is when ancient Egypt. 304 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Oh the way, Las Vegas, there's a big beaming light 305 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: shooting out of the top of the pyramid anyway, So yeah, 306 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: the actual lux are not the Vegas version, but the 307 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: real Luxir temple was a Menotep, the third contribution to 308 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: the skyline of Egypt, and also the Colossi of Memnon cool, 309 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: pretty cool. I wish we siled some Colossi. I know, 310 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: colossa what a dope word. Okay, this seems like a 311 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: good place for a break, right, and we'll be right 312 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: back after this, and we're back. So he's reigning over 313 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: the golden age of Egypt, when the empire had like 314 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: great influence on the international stage. It was at the 315 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: height of arts and culture. And many pharaohs before this 316 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: had depicted themselves as great warriors because Egypt was at war, 317 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, so you wanted a strong fighter as leader. Um, 318 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: but right now Egypt at peace. So during his reign, 319 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: a Menotep the third was still like listen, I'm still 320 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: gonna I'm a fighter, I'm a warrior. I can kick ass. 321 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: But he was leaning more into his connections to the gods, 322 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: and it was more about peace and maintaining order and 323 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: that sort of thing, because pharaohs would assume a five 324 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: name titulary, and it was meant to describe him and 325 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: his his program of his reign. So it'd be like 326 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: if we elected Biden, but then his name became his 327 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: entire agenda, which would be wow time consuming to say 328 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: the least. So all pharaohs had like a million different names. 329 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: A Mento taps names were all about truth, law and 330 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: order and maintaining peace um. And one of his favorite 331 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: names for himself was Nimaia, which meant dazzling sun disc. 332 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: That word literally meant that then, right, Like it's not 333 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: like now where oh my name is Nimarea. It means 334 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: dazzling sun disc. Like that's your own language at the time. 335 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: That be like literally naming yourself dazzling sun disc, right, yeah, 336 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I think so. It's like Heather, like heather means heather. Yeah, 337 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: heather is the flower. Yeah, it means what it is. 338 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: That's it, but more but more elaborate than that. It'd 339 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: be like if your name was soft, fluffy, white heather, 340 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: and that was your like your full name, any soft 341 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: fluffy white heathers out there, shout out. But yeah, I 342 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: think that's funny. I would love to go around and 343 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: being like, hey, I'm Dazzling sun Disc. It's great to 344 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: meet you. I feel like the closest we got was 345 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: like hippie names and they call them rainbow Sunshine or whatever. 346 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: That's like the closest to Egyptian that we got with 347 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: our names. Dazzling sun disc is just cooler than rainbow Sunshine. Sorry, right, 348 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I mean, rainbow sunshine is should be, 349 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: should be you know, it's just that toxic masculinity. I'm 350 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: just like rainbows and sunshine. That's not cool. It's not tough, 351 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: that's lame. But Dazzling sun disk is. Dazzling sun disk 352 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: is badassy. So yeah, it's dazzling. Yeah. It disc disc, 353 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: which could be a weapon. Discs are the coolest, the 354 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: manliest shape. Oh is that true? Oh yeah, I would 355 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: have thought this tent pole or whatever. No, no, no, 356 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: a disc like a like like a c D or 357 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: like a discus or like a cookie. You heard it 358 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: here first. Amenitep's devotion to t A is pretty obvious 359 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: and everything that he left behind. There's a historian, Lawrence M. Berman, 360 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: and he said that quote, no previous queen ever figured. 361 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: Excuse me, surely he's a British Egyptologist, Right, I don't know, 362 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: but probably I'm gonna I'm gonna guess, and he can 363 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: write in and correct us. Historian Lawrence M. Berman said, quote, 364 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: new previous queen ever figured so prominently in her husband's lifetime. 365 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: She's regularly featured on statuary, tomb and temple reliefs. He 366 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: put her name on everything that his name was on, 367 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: which is like crazy, unheard of. Because women had to 368 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: rely on men to record their lives, they didn't have 369 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: any power over what was written down, what was put 370 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: into the record, what was kept in the record, because 371 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: people would erase speaking of Ella Gablus. We talked about 372 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: this in that episode, where as a punishment, sometimes they'd 373 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: be like, we're erasing you from history. We're just not 374 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: going to write about you, and we're going to erase 375 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: everything we previously wrote about you. And that happened in 376 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: ancient Egypt as well. And then what that's it. There's 377 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: no Library of Congress, there's no tweets left over, there's 378 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: nobody telling your story. Well that's why. So that's why 379 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: all these Gyptologists are like, well, maybe this and maybe that. 380 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: Our best guess is that. Yeah. So so it was 381 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: pretty cool that he put her name on on ship. 382 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: He wanted people to know about her. And in statues 383 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: in his mortuary temple, the Royal Couple, the two of 384 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: them are depicted on an equal scale. Each figure is 385 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: the same size, and according to Egyptian artistic convention, this 386 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: meant that they were equally important, because this was also 387 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: very unheard of. Usually the pharaoh and his wife, she'd 388 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: be depicted much smaller than him, and so it was 389 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: really striking, very different that the two of them were 390 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: seen as the same size. That meant something. There's a 391 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: private tomb scene in his tomb where she's depicted as 392 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: a sphinx trampling enemies, and this caught people's eye because 393 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: usually only kings were depicted as sphinxes, first of all, 394 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: and then also trampling enemies was a task more associated 395 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: with men and with kings, not queens. So this is 396 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of a hint about how important she was politically. 397 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't just that a minotep was obsessed with her 398 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: and like wanted to have her picture everywhere. It was 399 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: like the kingdom was like she was handling some business. 400 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: All this was meant to show that t A was 401 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: a Menoteps divine as well as earthly partner. They were 402 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: gonna ascend into the heavens together. And it wasn't just 403 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: about their bodies here on earth. They were both godlike. 404 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: They were living embodiments of gods on earth. She wasn't 405 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: just some earthly hussey he picked up while he in 406 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: his human form. And get this, he even had a 407 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: lake constructed in her honor in the eleventh year of 408 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: his reign that was two miles long, and they sailed 409 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: its length in a royal barge so that everyone could 410 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: see them sailing on this leg. Look at my wife's 411 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: lake I made. I made? Who do you think made 412 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: the lake? Wondering who dug? That seems like a lot 413 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: of you know what, it's got to be, uh interns, Right, 414 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: that's just about to say I think it was probably 415 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: some unpaid interns. Unpaid interns, yeah, um, but possibly they 416 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: were well paid workers. Sorry, I'm sorry, sorry, Yeah, I 417 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know why I choked on that. 418 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: Another mighty civilization built on the back of unpaid interns. 419 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yep. A few years later he had 420 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: a second lake built for her, probably by the same interns, 421 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: because you know how hard it is to get hired 422 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: around here. Whoever made it through the program? Yeah, it's 423 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: a program. Do you guys have job placement? Oh yeah, 424 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: we got job placement? Where can I get placed? Right 425 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: where you are? Placed your hands on this shovel, Start digging, buddy. 426 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: So yeah. So she's got these two lakes and the 427 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: profits from the farmlands around the lakes where hers to 428 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: spend a She wished that she had an independent income, 429 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: her own source of money and everything. So she was 430 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: very independent wise. She's very intelligent, strong and fierce. She 431 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: was able to gain the respect of foreign dignitaries who 432 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: were willing to deal with her directly. When they came 433 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: to talk to the pharaoh about business, they were willing 434 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: to talk to t instead. Damn. So they show up 435 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: and they're like, I'm here to do some business with 436 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: the pharaoh, and somebody says like, well he's um, he's 437 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: actually busy right now. Uh, you're not gonna like this, 438 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: but all I've got available is some is like main wife, 439 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: the queen like two years here, amazing, Oh my god, 440 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: excuse I'm going to need a minute kind of brush 441 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: up all the bit straight my shirt here, straight my tunic. 442 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: Go get some frank instance from the car. Yeah. So 443 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: she was really active in foreign relations throughout her life. 444 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: Um and speculation, speculation station. I think this is another 445 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: reason they think maybe she was her parents were foreign born, like, 446 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: like she had some ties to foreign lands, so she 447 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: was interested in like what was going on over there 448 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: and how they were reacting with Egypt and stuff. That's 449 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: part of it. But got you, I don't know for sure. 450 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: She was also the first Egyptian queen to have her 451 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: name recorded on official acts. She signed the bills, she said, 452 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: and so saith I Queen Tia that from now on, 453 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: unpaid interns, you're gonna have to work a little harder 454 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: around here. You know. We don't have any evidence that 455 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: she was a progressive leader. Oh no, none at all, 456 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: None at all. She's she'd write, um, yeah, she wrote 457 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: a bill that said I think it's I've got it 458 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: right here, Okay, yeah, read it to me. It goes 459 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: crow clay pot, feel a weeed clay pot. Clay pot 460 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: there's a cat. There's what else, a feather and a 461 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: couple of snakes. Feather. Yeah, there's a staff, and then 462 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: another clay pot, clay pot, and then its en up 463 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: above that it says nobody colon me colin hiry glimpse. Yeah, 464 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: and that was a very seminal bill. Oh yeah, I 465 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: don't need to tell you guys. Ye, that was the amazing. Yeah, 466 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: that changed to change in Egypt forever. Lordy. He even 467 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: had a temple built for her where she was worshiped 468 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: in the form of the goddess Hathor, again representing that 469 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: she was part goddess now not just some regular old lady. 470 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 1: And she even adopted Hathor's horn and disk as part 471 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: of her own regalia. So she Yeah, they were walking 472 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: around like we are part gods. Hot shit, hot shit. 473 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 1: Now like most pharaohs, it's not like, I mean, what 474 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: do you expect the guy to do? Only have one wife? No, 475 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: he had a harem pretty large. Um. He married a 476 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: couple of daughters of the king of Babylon, you know, 477 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: a daughter or two of tosh Rada, the king of 478 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: Matani in northern Syria. You know, he had some wives, 479 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: couple others. Yeah, kicking around and that was pretty standard. 480 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: You know, again, he's a pharaoh. He's got a lot 481 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: to do, and he's got like fifty years to live, 482 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: so you gotta you gotta get it in when you can, 483 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: and you want your you want, because otherwise you your 484 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: family tree had to have some branches somewhere, so he 485 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: did that. But for a minute, Tep, his favorite was 486 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: definitely ta She held the title of great Royal life, 487 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: while the others were just the king's wife, pishposh. Just 488 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: that well, that's still i mean among regular workaday Egyptians, 489 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's still pretty wow. Great royal was like 490 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: oh ship. Yeah. They had six children together, including the 491 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: next pharaoh, a Menotep, the fourth. He changed his name 492 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: to akinat In, and that would not be the last 493 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: thing that he would change. But we will give him 494 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: and his queen Nefertiti their own episode. And one of 495 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: their daughters, one of a Meno Tep and t A's daughters, 496 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: was Taman and she was elevated to Great Royal wife 497 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: around your thirty of the Minoteps reign, so she was 498 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: the daughter of the pharaoh and then upgraded too Great 499 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: Royal wife of her dad. Pharaohs married their daughters, and 500 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: they married their sisters. Cultural differences, um, they span across 501 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: time and culture. One man's wife is another man's daughter. 502 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know. One man's wife is his 503 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: own daughter. I yeah. Look, it was a long time ago, 504 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: and it was a common thing for pharaoh's to do. 505 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: The god o Cyrius married his sister Isis and they 506 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: had the first pharaoh together. So it was kind of 507 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: like ordained that they should marry their sisters or daughters 508 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: in order to keep the bloodline pure. And commoners were 509 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: kind of like okay, because they were supposed to be 510 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: God's and people, so it was like, well that makes sense. 511 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, oh, gods can do it. Yeah, they did 512 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: not do it. It was not a common thing amongst 513 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: regular old Egyptian people and merchants and stuff. They did 514 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 1: not marry their family members and found it to be 515 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: not a cool thing at all. But they were like, 516 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: pharaohs can do It's fine. Sure, who was the first 517 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: GROSSI who was like, oh no, it's okay. The o 518 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: Cirius did it. You know, They're like, who's the Cirrus. 519 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, he's a he's a god, you would 520 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's still complex for a simple mind like 521 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: your understand. But it's totally divine that I'm marrying my 522 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: daughter basically, is what I'm saying here. It actually gets 523 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: weirder if I can tell you the story is that 524 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: Cyrus died and Isis brought him back to life just 525 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 1: long enough to conceive the first Pharaoh. Oh well, you know, 526 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: gods they had their own rules. But interestingly, regular Egyptians 527 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: would call their wife or husband sister or brother as 528 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: a term of endearment. And know, I was like, that 529 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: would not work, Like I'm sorry, but if you walked 530 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: in and you were like, I like, no, absolutely not. Um. 531 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: Apparently it was just to clear it up if anyone's wondering, 532 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: because I did, like, what why is that a good thing? 533 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: But apparently it was meant to represent an egalitarian bond, 534 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't just husband and wife anymore. They were 535 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: like on the same level as each other. They had 536 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: equal power in the relationships sort of, and they were uh, 537 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: it's like a blood bond at this point, rather than 538 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: just a marriage bond. The other reason why a pharaoh 539 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: would marry his sister or his daughter was because royal 540 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: daughters and princesses were not allowed to marry foreign princes 541 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: because Egyptians felt that the other nations would like try 542 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: to start some ship in their name kind of thing 543 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: which has happened. Oh yeah, um, but yeah, So they 544 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to marry any foreign princes, but they also 545 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: could not marry beneath their class. So who there's no 546 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: one else to marry basically but your father or your brother. 547 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: Limited window there for a princess. Another example reminds me 548 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: of like Suleman and the princes, where it's you know, 549 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: you were born into the best circumstances anyone could be 550 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: born into. You're part of the royal family, and also 551 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: that sucks for you, like you are kind of also 552 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: you've probably you've got a nice place to live and 553 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: you never want for you know, food and ship like that. 554 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: But the restrictions made things pretty dang rough, right. You 555 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: kind of got treated like ship because of these like 556 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: you know, dodgy old rules. Ended up getting screwed by 557 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: your brother. So the pharaohs are marrying daughters of other 558 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: kings of other nations for the classic political reason that 559 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: it would create friendly diplomatic relations between the two countries, 560 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: but they would never reciprocate in the same way. They 561 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: were like, I keep my daughters and if they don't 562 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: marry me, they don't marry anybody, or they're going to 563 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: marry my son. That's it's so weird, um, But I 564 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: guess it worked for a while. Egypt lasted a long time, 565 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: and he elevated one other of his daughters to great 566 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: royal wife as well near the end of his reign. 567 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: So I believe he had four daughters and he married 568 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: two of them. At some point. He had commemorative stone 569 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: scarabs distributed to everyone in the empire extolling all of 570 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: his accomplishments. So it was like the presidential plate of 571 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: his day. Uh, you know everybody, well, except that everybody 572 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: got one for free. You had to have one, and 573 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: it listed all his accomplishments or or various accomplishments on them. 574 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: A hundred and twenty three of these scarabs have been 575 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: found that talk about how in the past ten years 576 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: Menitep has killed a hundred and ten lions with his 577 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: own arrows. I wonder if environmentalist Egyptians of the day 578 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: were like, that's terrible. The lion population has been dwindling, 579 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: and we are driving them to extinction with this kind 580 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: of behavior, and now he's celebrating it by posting his 581 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't scaubs all over town? Yeah, there's a cuneiform somewhere. 582 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: They're tapping it out. And then they were like, I'm tired. 583 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: That's what we should do. If you want to tweet, 584 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 1: you should have to damn scroll it out in a stone. 585 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: You better bean that ship. It says nobody colon me colon, 586 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: not a pharaoh killing off all these lions again. Yeah, 587 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: I just thought it was funny because it'd be like 588 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: if a president was like, hey, I've made four holes 589 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: in one the other day, I don't want to tell 590 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: everyone about it, like it's such a weird thing to do. 591 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: But I guess it was. You know, it was like 592 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: a newspaper of the day, like you were just kind 593 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: of telling everybody what you've been up to. I guess. 594 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: And several more of these stone scarabs talk about the 595 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: foreign princess Guilkupta that he will soon marry, and apparently 596 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: she arrived at her new home with an entourage of 597 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: three hundred and seventeen women. Yeah. I was kind of like, 598 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: man who brings that many roommates with them. Deep. Yeah, 599 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: I brought my entire sorority with me if he don't mind. 600 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: So I'll need my own like wing. You know what, 601 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: We'll just we'll just build a wing for you real quick. 602 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: Let me get some Can I get someone paid and 603 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: turns over here please? Okay, this feels like a good 604 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: place for us to take a break. All right, welcome 605 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 1: back to the show. The next big event in amenoteps 606 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: reign is in year thirty because after thirty years of rule, 607 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: a pharaoh in Egypt had to have a said festival. 608 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 1: And this is like a religious jubilee. It's basically why 609 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: celebrating that he's made it to thirty years, because that's 610 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: unusual in ancient times. It's kind of meant to rejuvenate 611 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: the pharaoh. Um. He recommits to all the gods with 612 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: like processions and offerings and sacrifices and all the temples 613 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: and everything, um and uh. And he was kind of 614 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: also announcing his rise to full divinity, from being a 615 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: near god to now like a full god. And then 616 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: after thirty years, you would have won every three to 617 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: five years, so you had to wait a long time 618 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: for your first one, but then you had them pretty regularly. 619 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: I like that. They're like, holy shit, he you stayed 620 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: alive for thirty years. That is unheard of. That is 621 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: so insane that nobody has stabbed you in the back 622 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: yet and your work, you know, dragged off and murdered 623 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: in war or like a scarab didn't you know, crawled 624 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: into your skin and burrow its way into your brain, 625 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 1: which is from my studying of the mummy, is very common, 626 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: very common way to go. And uh, you know, and 627 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: then after that, like every three years, they're like, damn, 628 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 1: still you're still here, Let's have another party. Ship. Yeah. Well, 629 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: Amenotep had three, said festivals, which was quite a few. 630 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: Of course, again Ramsey's holds the record for we get it, 631 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: Ramsey's you're the like homecoming king of Egypt. But a 632 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 1: meno Tep had three. Uh, pretty good, and he wanted 633 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: them to be spectacular. This has the Olympics of their time. 634 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: I guess they had to spend a bunch of money 635 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: and build a bunch of ships. Uh. He had a 636 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: lot of temples and statues built up and down the 637 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: banks of the Nile, a lot of really cool intricate 638 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: ornaments and jewelry was created for the occasion. Um, I'm 639 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: pretty sure this is when he had this second lake 640 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: built for t A and they used it in the festival. 641 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: He would change his costume at every major activity, so 642 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: general cash money behavior going on here. He was throwing 643 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: money around. He's changing clothes a bunch. She's dressed to impress. Uh. Yeah, 644 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: they got the artisans at work. Everyone's into it. He 645 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: had to go to the temples of the gods and 646 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: knock on the doors with a mace and then enter, 647 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: followed by Queen Tier and his other wives. It was 648 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: like a ritual thing. Probably leave something there. I imagine 649 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: some offering, some something. Thank you for thirty great years. 650 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: More take my unpaid intern, I leave for you. One 651 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: major highlight was his coronation. Right in Upper Egypt, he 652 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: wore a white crown, and in Lower Egypt he switched 653 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: to red. This was, you know, in honor of their 654 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: leaders down there. They would wear red crowns. So it's 655 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: sort of like, uh, you know, like president comes down 656 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: South and puts on a cowboy hat, or you know, 657 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: he goes to the Northwest and he wears tight eye 658 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: you know, sort of acknowledging the regional culture. It's like 659 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: a bucket hat and at the Pike Place Market. Yeah, 660 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: like a kangle hat on English Avenue exactly. It said 661 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: that this festival lasted between six and eight months. It's 662 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: pretty bombass party. Yeah. What the longest party we had 663 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: was like four four months. Nobody came, it's just us, 664 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: but it was a party. Yeah, it's always a party 665 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: around here. After this, a Minotep went from being a 666 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: near god to being one divine, which meant that he 667 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: had transcended you know, his sort of like demigod status 668 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: and was just straight up divinity at this point. But 669 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: even though he was a god, he still got sick, 670 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: what I guess, because his human his poor human, weakly 671 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: human body, you know, those only last so long, right, right, right, 672 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: and so his started breakdown near the end of his life. 673 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: Historians think he may have suffered from arthritis and that 674 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: he had painful abscesses and his teeth he had very worn, 675 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: like cavity ridden teeth, dental issues back in the day. 676 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they're so upsetting now that it's like to 677 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: think about back in the day when they didn't even 678 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: know what to do about it. No childand all or nothing. 679 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: So yeah, they they think that he was suffering a 680 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: lot the last few years of his life. And it 681 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: has been suggested that Tea was actually running things for 682 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: a little while before his death. So maybe like a 683 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a Nancy Reagan situation where he was 684 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: still out there waving, but she was the one making 685 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: these decisions. Maybe that's when she started signing bills and stuff. Yeah, 686 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: someone's like, oh no, this scared clay pot staff doesn't 687 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 1: look like the pharaoh's usual scared pot staffed. This looks 688 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: like Quintia's handwriting. He died probably around fifty years old, 689 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: but a sturdy rule of sturdy fifty years of life. Certainly, 690 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 1: I would say he got in more in his fifty 691 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: years than most of us get into eighty or ninety. 692 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: Very true. I mean, he traveled that empire, he had 693 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 1: a bunch of coronations. He went from being a near 694 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: god to being a full god. I mean, who can 695 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: say that. A few dozen wives, some of them is daughters, 696 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: several children, and some of whom be married, several wives, 697 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: several children, and then several lives again, cycle disgusting cycle 698 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: ya um, and t A outlived him by probably twelve 699 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: years and she continued to advise their son Act after 700 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: he became pharaoh. His letters to to Shrada, the king 701 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: of Menradi, speak very highly of Ta's influence. She even 702 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: corresponded directly with to Shrada, who expressed hope that their 703 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: friendly relations would continue under acts rule. Yeah Ocanatin is 704 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: known as the pharaoh who wanted to go from worshiping 705 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: multiple gods, which Egypt was very comfortable with and used 706 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: to obviously after many years of doing it generations um 707 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 1: he wanted to focus on one god, his favorite god Aten, 708 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: So he moved the capital from Thebes to Amarana because 709 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: he just wanted to take them away from Amun was 710 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: the main god, and they wanted He just was like, 711 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: get away from that temple. Everyone's focusing too much on 712 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: this god. Look at my god instead. Uh And she 713 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: had a house in Amarana with him, so that's they're like, oh, 714 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: she went with him. She was still involved with his 715 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: his life and his rule and everything, so she was 716 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: probably still advising him at this point. She's also depicted 717 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: as having dinner with him and Nefertiti and uh Ocanatin 718 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,240 Speaker 1: ended up keeping her quite close for a long time, 719 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: and then she's mentioned for the last time in the 720 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: year thirty eight BC, so that's probably around when she 721 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: died or shortly after. At that time she would have 722 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: been over sixty years old. Pretty good. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, 723 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: I would like to enter speculation stage, not that this 724 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: whole thing isn't the reculation stage. I kind of but um, 725 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: I kind of wondered because Acton is you know, his 726 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: queen Nefertiti is really well known. Everybody has heard of her. 727 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: She's incredibly famous Egyptian queen um and apparently there's not 728 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: a lot of details known about her for real, but 729 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: of course there's a bunch of statues and we're really 730 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: familiar with her. So he really elevated his queen in 731 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: a way that was unusual. Um. And I kind of 732 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: wondered if you know that was because of a meno 733 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: tap and ta, if he was like I want what 734 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: my dad had, or he just was used to At 735 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 1: this point the dad had recorded the queen so much 736 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: that he was like, oh, that's what you do with 737 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: your favorite wife. You put her name on ship and 738 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: you make sure people remember her. Yeah. The great Royal 739 00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: life is an important position and a bomb mass woman. Yeah, 740 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: and I think so, because I think that Pharaoh's wives 741 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: just had a lot more influence after t a not 742 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: just running the palace and ship, but like actually entering 743 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: an opinion about how things should be. Yeah, which is 744 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: what I think makes this such a you know, a 745 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: story that we decided to go with because this wasn't 746 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: your average King and Queen of of England. This is 747 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: definitely not an average of queen and King of English. 748 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: Considerably notably different than the standard King and Queen of England. 749 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: This was not your average King and Queen of Egypt. Uh. 750 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: These two really stood out and changed things, you know, 751 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: seemingly for for quite a while afterwards, and and you know, again, 752 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: as usual, we could spend our whole night in speculation 753 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: station and go back through time and check our butterflies 754 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: and see, you know, if we stepped on one, how 755 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: different would everything be. But we can assume that Egypt 756 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 1: might have continued to develop very differently. How to not 757 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: been for the relationship that these two had, definitely impossible, 758 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: and we might be living in a completely different world 759 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: today where we're all covered in dirt and eating snails 760 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: out of the ground. Because you know, it's just if 761 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: it hadn't been for the two of them, Uh, everything 762 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: would have gone to complete ship damn snails out of 763 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: the Look. I'm just saying, Quintier was pretty cool and 764 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,439 Speaker 1: I like to think she changed things for the better. 765 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: Well I like to think that too, except obviously slavery, 766 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: because clearly they benefited from that for a long time. 767 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: So you know, as with any look back in history, uh, 768 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: you take the good with the bad, and you as 769 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: long as you harshly condemned the bad, learn from it 770 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: and don't do it again. Stop it the best we 771 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: can do when we look back at these stories. Has 772 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: anyone thought about stopping it? Just a thought? Don't have sleeves? 773 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 1: How about that? Just again, just saying, just floating the suggestion. 774 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, every time people have stopped having slaves, 775 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 1: turned out fine, worked out, It worked out, It worked 776 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: you know, people still made money to more importantly, because 777 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: that's always the argument. Economically, you can now everyone still 778 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: makes money. So shut up. How could I possibly afford 779 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: to pay all these workers to build these enormous pyramids. 780 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to have them do it for free. Okay, 781 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: time to go sit my solid gold room where the 782 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: walls floors, ceiling, and furniture are all made out of 783 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: pure gold and eat everything I've ever wanted shipped in 784 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 1: from across the globe. I think any of the unpaid 785 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 1: interns were like, yeah, maybe if you didn't bury all 786 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: the treasure with you in a tomb, we could fucking 787 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: redistribute it. Man. Yeah, I don't think they were permitted 788 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: to take base. Can I have one vase? Feed my 789 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: family for two months? With a vase? Two generations people 790 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: could eat on this vase. You're not supposed to have 791 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: a family. It takes you away from work. Yeah, you 792 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: got to make more family. Oh hey, they should join 793 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 1: our internship program. Bring them with you next time. We've 794 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: got great job placement. Bring your family to work. You're 795 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 1: bring your family to work lifetimes. So yeah, so so again, 796 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: what do we know of these two? Pretty much everything 797 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: we just gave you. That's about all there is known. 798 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: But an important story, an important couple. If you're the 799 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: type who wants to go through all of the various 800 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: broken pottery and statues that they're looking at to determine 801 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: all these things, please feel free. It's not my bag. 802 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: I'll say that I like history a lot, but I 803 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: was like I cannot read about another cartouche partially destroyed 804 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: that may or may not have someone's name on it. Like, 805 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: it's just the other issue I think with when you 806 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: get into egyptology, especially about any sort of ancient culture, 807 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, where history has only begun to be written 808 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 1: down in languages that are long since gone. You know. Again, 809 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: we just get kind of the pieces that made it. Uh. 810 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: You know, somebody might have written Queintia's entire story and 811 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: then like six months later, somebody spilled their coffee on it, 812 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: and that's it's gone forever. Now, that's it. Now, no 813 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: one's ever going to hear of Queen Tier again, you know. 814 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: So we get what was left over in brilliant minds 815 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: who've spent a long tedious dill. It ain't Indiana Jones, Okay, No, 816 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: it is a tedious process deciphering all these symbols, translating 817 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 1: these languages. You know, putting these puzzle pieces together sounds awesome. 818 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 1: If I had devoted you know, much of my life 819 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: to anything else that that's probably top seven somewhere in 820 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: there would have been like archaeology, because I you know, 821 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 1: I love puzzles, um, but it takes a lot of 822 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: focus and what we what The scraps that we have 823 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: are incredible. But right right, I was gonna say, I mean, 824 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, you pointed out how long ago this was. 825 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: I mean, thousands of years have gone by, so it's 826 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: amazing that we have any information about them, to be honest, 827 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,919 Speaker 1: there was one detail I thought was funny where they 828 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 1: found evidence that he got gifts during the said festival 829 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: from like not only noblemen, but also like smaller merchants 830 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: and stuff. And they found it out because of a 831 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: trash pile outside of one of the palaces that had 832 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: all these jars in it that had all these different 833 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: people's names on it. And I was like, that is 834 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 1: so funny to think about the trash being full of 835 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: what is to us, I mean, priceless ancient artifacts, you 836 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And like just picturing some guy 837 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: being like, oh it's from Arnold like and throwing it 838 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: and just tossing it in the garbage like that's insane. 839 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, yeah, four thousand years from now, 840 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: they find a pile of like wrapping paper and uh, 841 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: you know, all blue rays and they're like, oh my god, 842 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: this was a great king's birthday party. That's also what 843 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking, was opening the jars and pulling the 844 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: presents out and someone going in the bag. Now, put 845 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 1: it in the bag, leave it on the floor. I'm 846 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: stick of picking this shut up. I'll put it in 847 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: the bag, but it's a clay jar. Put it in 848 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,720 Speaker 1: this larger clay jar. I'm going to take it out back. 849 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 1: Then it'll be clean around here. So yeah, thousands of 850 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: years of time have gone by, have smashed up a 851 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: lot of this ship. But I'm very glad that we 852 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,280 Speaker 1: have some evidence of a and a Minotep the third. 853 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: Happy to share that story with you all, Um, I 854 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,720 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. We love digging into ancient Egypt. 855 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, we'll definitely do it again. Several ancient paras 856 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 1: and queens. As we say, these two the kids of 857 00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: these guys were and Ramsey's as you say, I mean ramped, 858 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 1: Like I'm not even sure if we can get the 859 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: rights to ramsey story. Like this guy is, he's a lot, 860 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: he's a lot. We're gonna we're gonna get into that. 861 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, please, uh, if you're an Egyptologist or just 862 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: like us, uh, dedicated student of the Mummy, uh with 863 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: Brendan Fraser. Uh then um, please reach out. We'd love 864 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 1: to hear from you. You can email us at romance 865 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: and I heart Media dot com or slide into the 866 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: d M s. 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