1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: Thing brand Day. Now, I know you get the chance now. 3 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: When Mark Farner took the stage with his rock band 4 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Grand Funk Railroad at the Atlanta Pop Festival in nineteen 5 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: sixty nine, he was virtually unknown, but reaction was swift. 6 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: Within weeks, Grand Funk would be signed by Capitol Records, 7 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: and less than two years later selling out shea stadium 8 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: faster than the Beatles. For decades after his first performance, 9 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: the self coined cussing Christian is still touring, but before 10 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: going solo, it was his time with Grand Funk that 11 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: taught him how to rock. Our first manager, Terry Knight, 12 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: would tell me. He says, you know, there's a lot 13 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: of people there. The people in the back row can't 14 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: see your antics. If you're doing, you know, little things, 15 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: you got to exaggerate everything. So I went into this 16 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: exaggeration and it really worked playing to the back row. Yeah. 17 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Now you started out your parents were musical, yes, and 18 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: your dad who passed away when you were very young. 19 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: You're like nine years old and your dad, what do 20 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: you play? The sacks? He played sacks and guitar. Was 21 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: he in bands and played in bands. Nab that every 22 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Sunday he was playing guitar with. My mother's people came 23 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: from Leechville, Arkansas, and they moved up when she was 24 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: sixteen years old and she met my dad, you know, 25 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: marrying uh North meet South. And I believe that's what 26 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: happened to You know. Why all that music came out 27 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: of Michigan was a lot of people came from the 28 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: Southern States to get the high pay and auto factory jobs. 29 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: And so we had a lot of Southerners and they 30 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: brought their guitars and their banjos, and they were picking 31 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: every culture. Yes, and it mixed with Flint. It mixed 32 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: real good and and we got a lot of good 33 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: music to prove it out of Michigan. Now you're dead. 34 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: What kind of work did he do for a living? 35 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: He was a fireman World War Two VETT. He was 36 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: a tank driver. He returned home with four bronze medals. 37 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Most tank drivers didn't get to see their second battle. 38 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: He went through four of them. Brother. Yeah, and my 39 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: mother was the first woman in the United States to 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: weld on Sherman tanks at Fisher Body in Flint, Michigan. 41 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: So there's auto blood in your family too. Yeah, and 42 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: we call it Assembly Lion rock and roll. Give for 43 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: people who don't know the etymology of Grand Funk Railroad, 44 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: what was there was? There's a meaning to that. It's 45 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: an actual railway system that runs through Ontario, Canada, Michigan 46 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: and Ohio called Grand Trunk and Western. And our first manager, 47 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Terry Knight, had a song that he had written, Grand 48 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Funk Railroad. He says, why don't you name your band 49 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: the name of my song, Grand Funk Railroad. We went, yeah, 50 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: that's cool. That works. He was in a band himself, Yes, 51 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: and you were in that, Yes, Terry Knight in the 52 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: pack and I played bass and sang and Don the drummer, 53 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: and I one day said, you know he doesn't sing. 54 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: We're singing better than uh Don. So Don went to 55 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 1: Terry and said, we're going to do this without you. Terry. Well, 56 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: he was all pissed and went off and had the 57 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: Terry Knight Review, had horns and all this stuff. But 58 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: Don kept in contact with him, and Terry had some 59 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: contacts in New York City and they ended up being 60 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: the attorneys that did the legal work for the Atlanta 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Pop Festival. In nineteen sixty nine, So that's how we 62 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: got there and mel shocker shocker. Yeah, at this point 63 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: in time, we didn't know what a hundred and eighty 64 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: thousand people look like. We were only yeah, we were 65 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: only looking at the front rows, you know, looking out 66 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: through the fence and why there's a lot of people. 67 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: And then when we're fifteen feet in the air up 68 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: above their head, I would holy, I just meant I 69 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: had to piss so bad. But whatever, what But what 70 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: do you do? You know? You you go, you're not 71 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: a big headlining act, and do you say to yourself, 72 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: hey man, this is my shot. Like when you get 73 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: up from perform in front of people and you because 74 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: you because you come across on stage like the consummate 75 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: pro you're not wasted or whatever, as you don't see 76 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: a cure you might have. I don't know. No, I 77 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: was never wasted. That's amazing. You were never wasted. And 78 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you get up there and describe what the set was like. 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: At Atlanta, we did our first album, all original music, 80 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: your first original material, you do, how did it come time? 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: How did it go over? What were they like? Dude? 82 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: They loved it, they loved it. I had purchased this 83 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: Paisley print kind of see through nylon or something. Wasn't cotton, 84 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: just wild colors and everything. And I had to think 85 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: long sleeve. And I'm out there, it's a hundred and 86 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: ten degrees out in the shade, and I'm just sweating. 87 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: I worked up a ladder between my legs. You could 88 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: shave a buffalo. You know, I'm serious. You gotta And 89 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: we come to the end of the set and I 90 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: told Brewer, I said, were not we gotta throw in 91 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Land of a Thousand Dances because we used to do 92 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: Wilson Pickett version of Land of a Thousand Dances and 93 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,559 Speaker 1: I would take my axe off and just prance around 94 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: a dance and you know, And at this point, I 95 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: was so stuck with this shirt all over my wet body. 96 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm I was pissed, and I just I ripped it. 97 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: They went and I learned right at that point, man, 98 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: that they liked the skim. They like this, So I 99 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: went there, were you look an athlete because you're very fit, 100 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: You're like a super fit. You look like an underwear model. 101 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but I was an you know what 102 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yeah, man, you don't take your shirt off 103 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: unless you got you ready to. There's a nice surprise 104 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: in that you played football, didn't you in high school? Yes? 105 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: And the shirt comes off and that's that's the new you. 106 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, it was my sign? Here is your sign? 107 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: What year was Atlanta? And we recorded in sixty nine? 108 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: Had on time released in September of sixty nine and 109 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: it went gold. I mean it was just like the 110 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: word from the Atlanta Pop Festival. You know, we opened 111 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: noon the first day. They liked us so well they 112 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: moved us to seven o'clock the second day, and then 113 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: the third day we were on at eleven o'clock under 114 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: the lights. Are the people that they're waiting for? Now? Yeah? 115 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: So you did three nights there, Yes, Now at that 116 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: time in sixty nine, you do Atlanta and you start recording. 117 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: Are you married to your first wife at the time? Now? 118 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: And without I mean, I know you're a Christian, yes, 119 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about these things appropriately. I 120 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: don't want to get to you know, kind of still 121 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: talk about anything you want. But you know what, I 122 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: appreciate that that's very sweet of you. But but it's 123 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: like you, I mean, you must have had women jumping 124 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: out of the trees on top of you. But you 125 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: got married when what year? And nineteen seventy two, So 126 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't that long after that you got married. Was 127 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: that something you always wanted? You always wanted a family? No? 128 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean it was like what you do, you grow up, 129 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: you get married, you have kids. I mean it was like, 130 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: that's that's what I wish you. Yeah, it's down home right. Yeah. 131 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: So you did that and had a couple of kids 132 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: while not with her. I didn't my first wife, I 133 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: had no children with We were married for four years 134 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: and divorced. This is when you're making it's a lot 135 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: of work back, a lot of work, and so it 136 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: was tough to be married. What you do it again? 137 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: But I do it again. My wife, my second wife, 138 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: my current wife, Lisa, we've been together for thirty well 139 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: we've been married thirty eight years together. It's called compromise 140 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: and love really true love. Yeah, I mean seriously, Uh, 141 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: there's there's nothing that I can't talk to her about. Uh, 142 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: there's nothing I wouldn't talk to her about. And and 143 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: vice first, and we've got especially now that we've gone 144 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: through this and we're continue to go through with my 145 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: son being quadriplegic there. It takes a lot of care 146 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: and and it takes a team to take care of him. 147 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: But people around us know that we love each other. 148 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's obvious when you see us together. 149 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, people see us together, they go, they go, wow, 150 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: you guys are a match. You know what happened to 151 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: your son. My son was camping out with his friends 152 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: on a fourth July weekend. They were at a lake, 153 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: a remote lake in northern Michigan. It was, you know, 154 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: miles and miles and miles. He's twenty one at um. 155 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: They were drinking, you know, but there was a lot 156 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: of other kids that were out there that were under age. 157 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: He was going to turn twenty one, I believe in 158 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: in September. But they were doing backflips off a picnic table, 159 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: and my son said, now, I'm not going to do that. 160 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. And these guys kept, especially 161 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: one guy that he told me about, kept needling him, 162 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: calling him a pussy and everything, you know, and just 163 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: kept at him until finally he gets up there, back 164 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: flips off the picnic table, lands on his neck and 165 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: he's paralyzed. They laid him in the back of a 166 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: pickup truck. He was communicating. He could move his arms 167 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: at this this point. Uh, they laid him in the 168 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: back of a pickup truck for eleven and a half hours. 169 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: He laid there and and if if they could have 170 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: got him in within the first four hour window, they 171 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: could have given him an injection at the point in 172 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: his spine and arrested the edema. But that was long 173 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: passed by the time he was in the emergency room. 174 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: And when we went into the emergency there, if you 175 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: know my asking, was there any explanation as to why 176 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: they didn't take him to some medical care right away 177 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: because of the underage kids. He didn't want to expose 178 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: them to the police coming out there. He didn't want to, right, 179 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: So where is your son now? He's home. Yeah, he's 180 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: got a power chair that he runs with his mouth. 181 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: It's called a sipping puff. And Chris was a friend 182 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: of mine too, God rest his soul. But Jesse his 183 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: friends put a remote control for r C trucks and 184 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: cars and boats. They built him this remote where everything's 185 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: in one joystick and he's got an extended straw and 186 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: they put it on a mic stand that's got vice 187 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: grip welded to the end of it, and they clamping 188 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: on his chair. And here this thing is and he 189 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: runs the thing with his mouth and and he's got 190 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: this boat that's a jet boat, and he runs it 191 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: up our stream. We got a trout stream in front 192 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: of our house. And he runs that thing up there. 193 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: He takes it down to the you know, the waterfront, 194 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: and there's you know, hundreds of people standing around and 195 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: they're watching this boat zipping from own and they're looking 196 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: for who's doing this, who's running it, And they see 197 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: this kid in a power chair running this thing with 198 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: his mouth. They can't believe. And my son, Jason, his 199 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: older brother, who was born the same day, nine years earlier. Uh, 200 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: he says, Dad, I got both my hands. I can't 201 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: run as good as jess Ken with his mouth. If 202 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: you don't mind my asking this question, which is this 203 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: Christian faith of yours? Was that something that was a constant, 204 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Was that something that was as a result of what 205 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: happened with your son? Was that something that you that 206 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: you be dedicated to after what happened here? Something? Because 207 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: I know that for me terrible time, I'm a Catholic 208 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: and in really tough times in my life. I'm gonna 209 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: take the good word. I'm gonna take the good ideas 210 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: from wherever I can get them. And I'm a churchgoer, 211 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: probably become a more regular churchgoer when I'm in trouble. 212 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: What was that like for you? Well, for me, it 213 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: happened when my dad died. My mother, aunts and uncle's 214 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: friends are all like in the dining room crying, sobbing, 215 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, looking at pictures. And this is just a 216 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: few days after his death and the funeral. And I 217 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: go into the living room and Billy Graham is on 218 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: the television set and he's doing a crusade in Flint 219 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: and he's at Atwood Stadium. And I see all these 220 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: people down there at Atwood and I used to live 221 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: next to Atwood, and I knew how big that place was. 222 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: I said, man, there's a lot of people there. And 223 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: so I started watching and he says to the viewing audience, 224 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: if there's anybody out there that's hurting, that needs a 225 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: touch from God that and he starts, you know, talking 226 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: some directly to me, come on over here and put 227 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: your hand on the television, said, I walk over nine 228 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: years old. I put my hand on the television set 229 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: and I pray with Billy Graham and I asked Jesus 230 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: into my heart, you know, at nine years old. And 231 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: then you know, I had my fame and went on. 232 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: But I always had that The Lord is love, you know, 233 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: the Lord is love, and I always had that in me. 234 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: You know. When we had our Phoenix album, which was 235 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: the first album after Terry Night, after the management thing 236 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: we split, had Phoenix, there was a song on their calls, 237 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: so you won't have to die, you know, and it 238 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: talks about um, you know, the world and the overpopulation 239 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of things that we all recognize as problems. 240 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: There's too many children only then more on the way 241 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: if you don't start some birth control, and you won't 242 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: last a much longer. It's best that would let him 243 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: save us soul so we can get much stronger. You know. 244 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: It's it's like it was he was calling on me, 245 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: Love was calling on me, and I was putting it 246 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: in the words, and people at that point we're saying, hey, 247 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: are you a Christian now or what's going on? You know, 248 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: because you said Jesus not a record. But I went 249 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: through all those motions and I think a lot of 250 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: people do in a religious setting because they don't want 251 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: to appear to be, you know, not plugged into God. 252 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: So we're going along with and we're opening our mind 253 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: to this. But what happens is the indebtedness that we 254 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: were under in the world. Every debt that is anyone's 255 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: holding against us, any financial debt that we carry, is 256 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: an anchor to our soul. This indebtedness bullshit. And I 257 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: am a Christian. I'm a customed Christian. You know. I 258 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: have become life of Romans to win Romans. Brother, But 259 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: you exchange the worldly debt for a godly debt, And 260 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's what people do because the church puts 261 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: you right in debt. Now you gotta pay ten percent, 262 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: you gotta tie. Now, you got to give your offerings. Nott, 263 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: you got to support the missionaries. You gotta do this. No, no, 264 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: because love isn't like that. There is no debt. When 265 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: I had my pacemaker put in here four years ago October, 266 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: I left the bone suit. I went into heaven. Brother, 267 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: I know what it's like. It's debt free. But the 268 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: things this procedure done twice, yes, yes, but one more 269 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: than the other was that that dramatic or did you 270 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: feel you left your body twice? Oh? I I knew 271 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: I left it twice. It was both times you had 272 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: a very, very kind of otherworldly experience. Yes, when you 273 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: are absent from the bone suit, you are present with love. 274 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: And this is what I I didn't get it when 275 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: I was a Christian in the church because I was 276 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: indebted to all these other silly notions that don't exist 277 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: except in this religious realm where even Jesus said in 278 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: the end time there's gonna be many wolves in sheep's clothing. 279 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: And this is what we got today. You see, some 280 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: of these cats got more bling, bling than the pimps 281 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: on the street. It makes me sick. They're selling Jesus, 282 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: they're selling their sound. If there's any kind of money 283 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: that's involved, yes, exactly, Alec. But that money ruins the 284 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: prospect of the real Jesus getting in there because it's 285 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Really, love does not inhabit the indebtedness 286 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: of a person's soul. But I would imagine also, and 287 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this to be glib, there, there's a 288 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: very independent nature to you in your work. So it's 289 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: like you don't really want to do a lot of 290 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: covers of other people's material. You'll do one every now 291 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: and then, but you'd rather write your own songs. The 292 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: same is true in all things. I'd like to do 293 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: my own material, but I want to I'm gonna switch 294 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: gears here. I want to talk about when you're in 295 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: a band, and you're in a band and you're pretty 296 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: much in charge, were you viewed as the guy that 297 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: was calling the shots? It wasn't much more to describe 298 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: the other two guys. It's you and the guitar and vocals, 299 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: Mel Shocker on bass and Don Brewer on drums and 300 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: vocals and vocals. And Don was the businessman of the band, 301 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: who handled Terry, who handled Terry and handled all of 302 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: the books. Uh did he handled the business after Terry 303 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: was gone? It's eventually, and you didn't need another guy 304 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: because Don could take care of everything. Right. Well, it 305 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: was Don that came to me and and said, we 306 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: all need to sign the ownership of the trademark Randfunk 307 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Railroad into the corporation where it will have this protective umbrella. 308 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: And I didn't finish high school. Uh. And he had 309 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: gone to law school, so I figure he knows what 310 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: he's talking about I figure, he's my friend, he he 311 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: wants to protect us, yes, and so I said to him, okay, 312 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: I'll do that, and he says, let me go to 313 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: my room and get the papers. And as he left, 314 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, why the hell didn't he just bring the 315 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: papers with him. And it didn't dawn on me what 316 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: was going on until I had signed those papers he 317 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: brought back to my room. I signed him and then 318 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: I got the call that I was no longer in 319 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: the corporation. They had thrown me out of the corporation 320 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: and the band was going out without me. And I 321 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: got a phone call. This was a ninety eight. Oh so, 322 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: so after Terry is gone, Terry leaves, Terry's with you 323 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: through the Golden Ages, late late sixties, early seventies, all 324 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: the platinum records, all the big tours. Terry's gone. When 325 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: he's out and done, replaces him fully win in so 326 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: that quickly right after shea stadium three days sell out, 327 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: So you sell out quicker than the Beatles. You're smoking hot. 328 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: Terry's gone, Don takes over then, and everything was fine. 329 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: It was Don took over as far as the books 330 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: and keeping track of you know things, but we are 331 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: road manager. Andy Cavaliery took over as management at that 332 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: okay point, did you do a good job? Yeah? He did, uh, 333 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: you know for not being a manager. I mean, he 334 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: didn't know what the heck to do, but he learned 335 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: real quick. Without getting into specifics, because I I don't. 336 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm not so much leaning on income and money as 337 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: I am. That you were able to protect him income 338 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: because you always hear that the business is nothing but 339 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: guys getting no money for the first five or six 340 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: albums that they make because they've signed some crappy deal. 341 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: You made a lot of money during that period, maybe 342 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: not as much as you'd like to him made You 343 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: made enough money. But Terry Knight told me that I 344 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: needed to publish my songs through his company because he 345 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: had this worldwide affiliation. So he didn't say to me, 346 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: do you want all your money or half of it? Now? 347 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: If he did, if he had presented it to take 348 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: his piece of your money, yeah, he took his. Yeah, 349 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: he took the publishing. Yeah, get it back to you, 350 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: buy it back. No, I have it now. But but 351 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: all those songs on the first seven eight albums are 352 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: published through Storybook, which is Terry Knights published those songs. 353 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: Are I only get my song writing, I don't get 354 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: any of the publishing whatsoever. Yeah, he was stabbed to 355 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: death by his daughter's boyfriend, Yes, six years ago in Temple, Texas. 356 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: Brother there was drugs involved. She was eighteen, the boyfriend 357 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: was twenty seven. The boyfriend came in, they were high 358 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: on drugs. He starts abusing the daughter. Terry tries to 359 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: get between them, and the guy goes in and grabs 360 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: a butcher knife out of the kitchen drawer stabs Terry 361 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: twenty six times sixty at the young No, but his 362 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: daughter had used that time to go to a friend's 363 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: apartment because it was a complex, and when the cops 364 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: got there to arrest this guy, he was trying to 365 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: kick down the door on this other apartment to get 366 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: at her, and he had a knife and blood and everything. 367 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean, the cops got him in. But but oh yeah, 368 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: and uh but now she has the publishing company she has, 369 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: she don't know anything about publishing, sorry to say, God 370 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: bless her. Uh and so that's still I'm now you 371 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: know this this new rule, you can get your songs 372 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: back no matter who published him. So that's what I'm doing. 373 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm in the in the process, sweet Sweet. While Grand 374 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: Funk was rocking its way into America's hearts, Patty Lapone, 375 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: another musical legend, was winning them over on the Broadway stage. 376 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: When did it start to become fun for you? Oh? 377 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: Anything goes okay because of the material and because of 378 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: the cast. And it was hysterical. I mean Jerry's acts. 379 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: And Jerry did a great job of direction. Yes he is. 380 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: And but however, these were the way musicals used to 381 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: be written. Dud to have a joke coming and then 382 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: a gorgeous song. The material was so ripe and so beautiful. 383 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: If I was in a bad mood, all I had 384 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: to do was hear that. Okay, I know where I 385 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: am tonight, take a listen that. Here's the thing dot 386 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: Org in the nineties seventies, Mark Farner and Grand Funk Railroad. 387 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: We're selling out stadiums worldwide while pushing politically charged hits 388 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: like people, Let's stop the war. The Michigan native credits 389 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: prayer for his resilient is. After all, he has a 390 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: heart condition that he says has killed him twice. I 391 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: knew about it just because of the flutter when I 392 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: was in my early twenties. So you had an arrhythmia, 393 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: which I have that as well, and you had a 394 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: in arrhythmia. We're gonna go down the whole list, and 395 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: I have that too. I just can't write songs and sing. 396 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: But other than that, other than the whole rock and 397 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: roll thing. So um, But when did you like first 398 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: flame out? Like, when did it really get serious? I 399 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: woke up. We were at the Renaissance Center in Detroit. 400 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: We're down doing some radio and stayed tonight and my 401 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: my wife is in the bathroom. She she told me 402 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: as she came out of the bathroom and looked at me, 403 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: I'm laying in a bit. My arm, my left arm 404 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: shoots up in the air, and she said, my body 405 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: started going into these contortions and and I started having 406 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: this foam coming out of my mouth. And she's on 407 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: the phone. She's got the paramedics there, and like stat 408 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: they were right there. They had me on oxygen. They 409 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: having a seizure. Yes, I was having a seizure, but 410 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: I didn't realize what was going on. My problem was electrical. 411 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: I had what they call bundle branch block, so it 412 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: wasn't receiving the signal to squeeze and send the blood 413 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: to the top part. And that's what happened to me. 414 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: But on the way to the hospital and the ambulance, 415 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, this guy is talking to me and I 416 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: could feel my heart doing some crazy stuff, you know, 417 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: it's just like whopping around in there. I go in 418 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: to in the emergency room on a gurney. They've got 419 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: me on an external pacemaker. There's three doctors ten ft 420 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: from me in the corner looking at a screen and 421 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: they're dialing hitting switches instead. There's three of them over there, 422 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, wham, I'm hit like it 423 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: feels like I'm hit with four forty volts or something. 424 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: They hit me hard and it hurts so bad. I 425 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: hollered out. My wife Lisa comes over, what's the matter? 426 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: What's the man? I said, Do you hit me with 427 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: so much electricity? They're trying to kill me? And she 428 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: starts telling to the top of her lungs, Hey, hey, 429 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: she's screaming. These guys are not turning around. Doctors are 430 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: coming in from out in the hallway, Uh, what's going 431 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: on in here? Because they hear the commotion and her 432 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: hollering and she's saying, they're trying to kill and and 433 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: wham they hit me again, and I'm gone, I'm in 434 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: heaven now, I'm in heaven. Now I'm digging it because 435 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: heaven is you understand, and you know all things immediately, 436 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: immediately you know everything, and the peace that passes understanding 437 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: takes over your consciousness. I thought you were going to 438 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: see you're in heaven, and you know you're in heaven 439 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: because Elvis Presley wokes up, just says Mark Farner. I'm 440 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: a big fan of or Love music. I think I 441 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: love local. You're covering on the way you think, Alec, 442 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: that's happened to me. But good continue. I'm sorry. I'm there, 443 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: and I hear you know. We got him back twice. 444 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: I be there twice. I died. They paddled me back. 445 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: I die again, and they paddled me back. And the 446 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: doctor says to Lisa, we got him back twice. There 447 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: is no guarantee we're going to get him a third time. 448 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: We have to get him to o R right this second, 449 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: and I mean stat. And when he said stat, things 450 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: were like Mash four oh seven seven. People were just 451 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: hauling ashes every direction. And I got down there had 452 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: this pacemaker put in. The following morning, the doctor who 453 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: did the catholization came in. Thirty two year old guy, 454 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: and he says, Mr Farner, I've done thousands of these, 455 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean literally thousands of these catholizations. He says, I 456 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: did a twelve year old kid yesterday. And I want 457 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: to tell you something. Your cardiovascular system is in better 458 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: shape than this twelve year old. I want to know 459 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: what you're doing. He says, you don't have any plaque? 460 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: What's that in that back row? Now, let's go back, 461 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, back in that time or in and around 462 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: that time. Seventies. I mean this is I mean the 463 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: seventies are just this blazing the business blazing thing. It's 464 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: does It's Zeppelin and the Who and yeah and you 465 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: guys and uh, you know you had three guys? Why 466 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: is it three guys? Who makes it? Did you ever 467 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: think we need more guys? Did you bring on more guys? 468 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: Why was it just? It was a bassist, a drummer 469 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: and the lead guitars only or a keyboardist. Right? We 470 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: had just I say we the band, the Fabulous Pack, 471 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: had gone to Boston to do some gigs. Now, this 472 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: agency from Michigan told us, we're gonna send you out there. 473 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: We'll put you up, they're gonna feed you. You're not 474 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: gonna get paid, but if you do good, if they 475 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: like you, we'll go back and we'll actually make some money. 476 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: That we were making money from the get go. They 477 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: just lied to us. Right. So we're staying on Cape 478 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: Cod in summer cottages and the worst snowstorm in the 479 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: history of the world hits and we are stranded in 480 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: Cape Cod, East Sandwich, Massachusetts. We're melting down snow because 481 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: the pipes are frozen. We have a little gas heater 482 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: or in the living room. No insulation in these I mean, 483 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: just a little you know, space heater deal, and we're stuck. 484 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: We go to the grocery store. He would give us 485 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: oatmeal and that's all we had. We didn't have sugar, 486 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: we didn't have butter, we didn't have We just had 487 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: the oatmeal. We'd melt down the snow make this olden. Yeah, man, 488 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: it was. It was unbelievable. And dude, we had to 489 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: take a crap in a paper bag that we got 490 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: from the guy at the store, and then you know, 491 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: we take the bag and go stick it in the 492 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: snow bag. I would hate to bend the people cleaning 493 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: that message tall you kidding. But we were there two weeks, 494 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean it was, and with two of the guys 495 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: in the band were married. So by the time we'd 496 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: hitch hiked up the coast and one of the one 497 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: of the guys, I don't know how they did it, 498 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: but they had contracted the crabs, so he was in 499 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: one house by hisself, and all the rest of us 500 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: was us out there exactly. Yes, when we got back home, 501 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: the two that were married, their wives were threatening divorce 502 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: and we just I mean it was a big blowout, right, 503 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: And so I said to Brewer, you know, we should 504 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: just do three piece and forget, forget the keyboards, forget 505 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: getting anybody in the band that has anything to do 506 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: with a woman. But you know, because this is gonna 507 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: screw us. Yeah, so we go up and we're gonna 508 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: give these guys in Bay City a piece of our 509 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: mind because we one way after we found out we 510 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: were paid three fifty dollars a night for doing these 511 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: shows and we never saw a penny of it. We 512 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: were going to chew their ass out real good for him. 513 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: And we're setting in the waiting room to waiting to 514 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: get into the office, and it was also a rehearsal facility. 515 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: And there's a band in their rehearsal and I'm listening 516 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: to this base through the wall. I'm going Brewer, let 517 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: into this bass player. Dude, who is this? And so 518 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: they're rehearsal blah blah blah. We can just hear kind 519 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: of the throbs. They get done with their little rehearsal. 520 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Mel Shocker walks out and he's playing with question marking 521 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: the mysterious, you know, and we say to him, dude, 522 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: we're going to start a three piece band. Would you 523 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: like to be in the band? Man? He says, I am, 524 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm ready to leave this band. You couldn't have picked 525 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: a better time for me, because when do we start 526 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: with a Monday at the at the Flint Federation of 527 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: the Musicians Union Hall. And you know him, Yes, I 528 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: went to school with Melvin. He was a year under me. 529 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: When he kept tabs in his career, you knew he 530 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: was with that band where everybody's kind of keeping tabs 531 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: on each other in that community like that Flinty. Now 532 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: this is true for all performance. You know, there's a 533 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: there's that white hot period and it goes by. You 534 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: almost didn't even know what's happening. You don't even know, 535 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: you don't even you almost don't even know it is 536 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: the white hot period. Right, But and then she you 537 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: realize that we all age and it changes. Yes, when 538 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: do you start to feel this is changing? When here 539 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: started going away bad, fantastic, You can feel it exactly 540 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: sighting up. And I believe too that I know that 541 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: in my heart. Uh, I was born and you know 542 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: I was put here on this planet to entertain, also 543 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: to provoke people to think I'm an entertainer, but there's 544 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: something more to me. I have an underlying motive. I 545 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: have love in my heart and I love all people, 546 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: all colors, all races. I don't see um, I don't 547 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: see difference like this. You got a little political for 548 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: a while when you were very entering the war. Correct, absolutely. 549 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: I wrote the song people Let's Stop the War, and 550 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: people today when I play that on stage at like 551 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: they love that sting. I mean because it's still no, 552 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: it's still but you're not political now. I put it 553 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: in between the lines and my music. I've always said 554 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: it with a song, brother, and I I'll say it 555 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: this way because I believe the world could be one 556 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: with the right song, It could be one get to 557 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: the heart of every person. What was the easiest song? 558 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: What's the song that really really flowed out of you? 559 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: Was I? Was it closer to home? Yes, because I 560 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: remember I read was somewhere where you jumped out of bed, 561 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: like in the middle of the night. You had to 562 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: write it down. Yes, you just you just came to you. Yes, 563 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: but I'd pre empt that with I did say my prayers. 564 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: Now I lay me down to sleep. I pray the 565 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: Lord my soul to keep if I should die before 566 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: I wake, and pray the Lord my soul to take 567 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: You know, I used to pray just for the fire 568 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: insurance because I used to think, Man, I don't want 569 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: to go to hell, so I gotta I gotta touch 570 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: base with God here before I closed my eyes. You know. 571 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: That's the way I do it. But I pray the 572 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: Lord myself to take it. If I should die before 573 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: I wake, I pray the Lord that I get that 574 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: last verse. If I'm your captain. Well I did. I 575 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: put a p s after I said, God bless my 576 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: mom and dad and Graham. I blessed everybody in the 577 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: whole damn family. Then I said, God, would you please 578 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: give me a song that would reach and touch the 579 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: hearts of peace pool you want to get to. But 580 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: when you you finished that song, how does that process 581 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: work with those two guys. You'd all get together to 582 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: rehearse and you'd lay it out for them and say, 583 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: here's this, this is what I came up with. Yes, 584 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: And well that the following morning, I got up and 585 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the horses out in the pasture. I've 586 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: got a hundred ted acre farm them there, and I 587 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: make my coffee I got, you know, I'm strumming my 588 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: George Washburn, American made George Washburn was the baddest guitar 589 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: I ever had. Uh, And I said, bop and bop 590 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: and bop, and it just started coming, you know, and 591 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking wow. Uh. Then I start in my mind, 592 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, the words. I wonder if that is 593 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: a song. And so I go and I get my 594 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: little yellow legal pad there with all I'm your captain 595 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: written down on it, lay it on the table, and 596 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: I just started this. This the sea, that second chord, 597 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: I'd never played it, that inversion of that sea, and 598 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: I went Wow, where the hell did that come? And 599 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: I looked down at my fingers and I went, wow, 600 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: that looks pretty cool. I'm gonna keep that. I'm gonna 601 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: get that and I take it to rehearsal that day. 602 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: I like and then I and I said, look, I 603 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: got this song and bopping do today and they're going 604 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: damn far enough. That's a hit man, That's all I say. 605 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: Hire cool. They were right, and you recorded that what year? 606 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: And they played the hell out of that. Oh boy, 607 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: I told you, I'm not I'm not ashamed to say this. 608 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: I'd stick my head out the window and I'd smoke 609 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: a joint and blow up that joint out the window. 610 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: And I'd had these big I mean, I saved the 611 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: money to buy these gigantic Acoustic Research, these gigantic, beautiful 612 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: A and R speakers, and they were in the corner 613 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: of my bedroom. And when I would move them next 614 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: to my head, and I would lay my head down 615 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: like I was having a cat scan. You know. I 616 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: have like these two giant boxes next to my ears, 617 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: and I get the volume really low. I'd smoked that 618 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: joy to come back, and I laid it and I 619 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: put on closer to home such a beautiful song. Thank you. Now, 620 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: what's the song that you sweat it over? What was 621 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: a tough song to write? What was one of the 622 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: hardest songs Peter write the hardest? I believe like bad Time. 623 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: I was as my first wife. She was in the 624 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: kitchen hollering and screaming, and I'm in the dining room 625 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: on the keyboards. You know, she's about the exactly dude. 626 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: But she's in there threatening to put a twelve inch 627 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: cast iron skillet through my forehead. I mean, she's just 628 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: really madding the wet hair. And I'm in there writing. 629 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to write bad Time, and yeah, this is 630 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: Queen and she's you know, I'm singing that part out 631 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: and I wanted to know that this what she's doing 632 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: is not melting with what I'm trying to do in here. Uh, 633 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: when this song comes out, you're not gonna be happy, baby. 634 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: But but that song was played more than any other 635 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: song in V five. I got a b m I 636 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: Award for that song. When the band really really and 637 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: you go, what was it like for you to perform 638 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: overseas as? I mean, you sang a song One are 639 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: your most legendary songs is We're an American band. How 640 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: did one of the most famous American bands in rock 641 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: and roll history? How did they play overseas? Where where 642 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: did they welcome you the most? Where did you get 643 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: the vibe, the feeling, because you're very spiritual. Where did 644 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: you feel that communion with the audience the most? Um, 645 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: I felt it when we were in Germany. I was 646 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: going to say, you know, we did a show for 647 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: the troops at Shrine, for ten thousand troops and then 648 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: all the civilians. Dude, there was like thirty thousand people there. 649 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: They had backed up to semi trailers. That was the stage, 650 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: and the spotlights were three tanks out in front. You know, 651 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: you got this tank following you, uh to to play 652 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: in in Europe. They loved it, and especially when we 653 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: would hit We're an American band? Are you kidding? Yeah? 654 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: You know when you go out there now and you performed. 655 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: Now you're still performing and I want to read I'm 656 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: gonna read. Let me read this for you if I may. 657 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: This is from Elmore Magazine, January thousand sixteen. Barry Fish 658 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: walking out onto the stage and a T shirt, jeans, 659 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: and his long, partially braided hair. He looked exactly like 660 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: the Mark Farner of old. More importantly, he sounded exactly 661 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: the same as well, both with his vocals and his 662 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: guitar playing. Leading a band consisting of bass, drums and keyboards, 663 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: he launched right into are You Ready, the same tune 664 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: used to open many of Grand Funk shows back in 665 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: their heyday around forty five years ago. This began a 666 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: set of songs that came right at you, NonStop, hit 667 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: after hit, footstop and music. We're an American band, and 668 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: they just kept coming until he finally stopped to take 669 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: a break and say hellad to the audience. Farner informed 670 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: his very dedicated bands that in the recent past he 671 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: had a pacemaker put in due to a heart condition. 672 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: The energy he exudes on stage now is proof of 673 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: how he has completely recovered. The doctor said, don't baby it, 674 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: and he told my wife, he said, tell him, don't 675 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: baby it. He's got a new heart. Now. That's the 676 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: way he's got to look at it. Everybody listen to 677 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: me and return me my ship. I'm your captain. I'm 678 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: your captain. Oh I'm feeling mighty sick. I've been a 679 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: love now days accounted, and it's months. I've seen home. 680 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Can you hear? Tickets to his 681 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: upcoming shows can be found at Mark Farner dot com. 682 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the thing. 683 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: My friends and I used to sit there and sing, 684 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: we will be doing a movie and if we didn't 685 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: like the director, I'd sit there in myself going and 686 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: my in my trailer dreaming. Are you really scheming to 687 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: take this movie away from me? You better think of that. 688 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: You know, we think that lyric keeping very handy, lot 689 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: of lot of moments. You're singing in tune, Well, well 690 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't go that. For All I want 691 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: to say to you is you are such a great, great, 692 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: great musician. Thank you, and you're such a great part 693 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: of my life musically. I was just really really happy 694 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: to have you come into the show. Well, God bless you, Alec. 695 00:39:37,840 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: It's been my pleasure. Thank you. Only you had a 696 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:18,240 Speaker 1: thing about it. I just can't live without it, so