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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I hope all of you are having a fantastic Tuesday

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Speaker 1: wherever you may find yourselves across this great country or

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Speaker 1: this great land. We have got a lot to discuss

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Speaker 1: throughout the next three hours, and we appreciate you spending

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Speaker 1: your time with us. New Zealand is giving up on

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Speaker 1: the idea of COVID zero, Doctor Fauci pressed on natural immunity. Finally,

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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban and the failed policies of the Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 1: as a symptom of larger issues. All of that to

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Speaker 1: be discussed shortly. Taxes, the irs about to have way

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Speaker 1: more power over your bank accounts. School groups are being

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Speaker 1: investigated by the Department of Justice because they are considered

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Speaker 1: to be a threat. It is madness. Kirsten Cinema of Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden said that her being followed into the bathroom

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Speaker 1: was part of the process of being a politician. Jensaki

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Speaker 1: is helping to clean that up. We've got the latest

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Speaker 1: on the budget. All that and more much to discuss,

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Speaker 1: but we begin with what I think is becoming a

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Speaker 1: significant win potentially Buck Sexton for Team Reality. Now I

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Speaker 1: understand how the spin will be pushed out there that

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Speaker 1: New Zealand abandoning their lockdown policies is actually a victory

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Speaker 1: and they followed the science and they did everything right.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I understand their small island nation in the

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Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, and they have a totally different

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Speaker 1: ability to restrict people entering and exiting their country. But

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Speaker 1: the fact that the Prime Minister down there, I believe

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Speaker 1: just Sinda Ahearne is her name, has had to now

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Speaker 1: acknowledge that due to the Delta variant, the lockdowns basically

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Speaker 1: don't work, and that New Zealand is going to have

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Speaker 1: to open up and that they can't stay locked down forever.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a big win for Team Reality,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that it's going to lead to more

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Speaker 1: moving in our direction. Let's listen to that announcement that

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Speaker 1: was made yesterday by New Zealand. With this outbreak and

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Speaker 1: with Delta, the return to zero is incredibly difficult and

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Speaker 1: our restrictions alone and not enough to achieve it quickly.

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Speaker 1: In fact, for this outbreak, it's clear that long periods

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Speaker 1: but that is okay. Elimination was important because we didn't

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Speaker 1: have vaccines. Now we do, so we can begin to

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Speaker 1: change the way we do things. We have more options,

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Speaker 1: and it's good cause for us to feel optimistic about

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Speaker 1: the future. But we cannot rush. Okay, So Buck, I

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Speaker 1: understand they're trying to claim victory. Hey, we did zero

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Speaker 1: COVID until we had vaccines, and now we have these

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Speaker 1: magic pill vaccines that even though they have tons of

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Speaker 1: going to be able to stop it, and basically that

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Speaker 1: means COVID is going to be endemic. I do think

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Speaker 1: this is a big win for Team Reality in this respect.

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Speaker 1: There are so many people out there, Buck, who've been

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Speaker 1: holding up New Zealand, the Blue Check Brigade. Oh my god. See,

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Speaker 1: if we had just locked down harder, we could have

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Speaker 1: been like New Zealand. Suddenly having New Zealand and Australia

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Speaker 1: no longer a reality and that lockdowns are not possible.

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Speaker 1: I think makes it harder and harder to bring back

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Speaker 1: the idea of lockdowns the United States, fair or foul?

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Speaker 1: Is that a crazy position for me to adopt? Well,

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Speaker 1: first off, they're going to continually point to their low

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Speaker 1: fatality rate from COVID as justifying instead of saying, wow,

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Speaker 1: this was madness. What were redoing? It was never going

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Speaker 1: to work. It was always destined. And this was the thinking.

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Speaker 1: Everyone forgets this now because we're told to forget it.

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Speaker 1: The thinking about how to deal with pandemic disease was

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Speaker 1: that a lockdown only made sense. Why was it two

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Speaker 1: And the reason was everyone knew if you lock if

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Speaker 1: you truly lock down a society for a month, two months, okay,

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Speaker 1: you'll have very low cases. It is true that if

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Speaker 1: But it's also true that the moment you go back

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Speaker 1: And they've known this all along New Zealand. Unfortunately, in Australia,

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Speaker 1: It's about health and medical reality. We have ten times

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Speaker 1: not that high. Interestingly enough, they've spent so much time

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Speaker 1: be vaccinated because otherwise we're going to have variants and

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Speaker 1: the variant obviously Delta does not have as much protection

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Four four wow, four percent of Africans

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Speaker 1: that would be the seasonal flu. Now we're also told

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Speaker 1: Used to ironically enough, Buck when I did local radio,

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Speaker 1: or a negative test. And I believe we have a

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Speaker 1: cut of Cuban, and I've been arguing with him publicly.

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Speaker 1: Some of you may have seen this. Here's Cuban talking

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Speaker 1: about his new policy cut six No. Two things. One,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you have a proof of vaccination, that's

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Speaker 1: good enough. You upload it to our app and that's

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Speaker 1: all you need to do for one time a year.

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Speaker 1: If not, let's say you have COVID, we still want

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Speaker 1: to have proof that that natural immunity is working. And

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Speaker 1: you don't have COVID. You just have to show a

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Speaker 1: negative test from within the previous three days, So if

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Speaker 1: you're vaccinated, it's easy. So he's like almost there. He

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Speaker 1: knows there's this of natural immunity. He knows you're actually

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Speaker 1: safer as somebody who has natural immunity than somebody who

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Speaker 1: has only gotten the virus. I'm sorry, I only gotten

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Speaker 1: the vaccine and not at the virus. But he insists

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Speaker 1: on it being a test only system every time instead,

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Speaker 1: because by that logic, why not have a vaccinated person

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Speaker 1: test every time? That's right, That's what I asked him

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Speaker 1: and Brett Kavanaugh, for instance, for people out there found

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Speaker 1: out after double vaccination. There are lots of people out

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Speaker 1: there who've been double vaccinated and tested positive. So what

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Speaker 1: Cuban is trying to sell to his fan base is

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Speaker 1: you're safe and also you're virtuous. But the reality is

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Speaker 1: buck this is a broken system. So what I've been

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Speaker 1: arguing with him about and I do think this would

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Speaker 1: be an improvement. First of all, we are clear we

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Speaker 1: don't believe in COVID vaccine mandates. I certainly don't think

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Speaker 1: you should have to show a passport to go to

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Speaker 1: a restaurant or a bar as sporting event. I'm not

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Speaker 1: in favor of this, but if you are going to

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Speaker 1: put that policy in place, I think you should be

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Speaker 1: logically consistent, and that policy should include if you can

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Speaker 1: prove that you have COVID antibodies, that should count just

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Speaker 1: as much as a vaccine, and you shouldn't have to

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Speaker 1: get a negative test after you've already had COVID in

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Speaker 1: order to get in. If you're not having to get

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Speaker 1: one for the vaccine too. Natural immunity has been a

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Speaker 1: casualty of the noble lie that the only responsible way

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Speaker 1: forward is for everyone to get the vaccine. I say

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Speaker 1: noble lie in so far as that's what the left

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Speaker 1: thinks it is, we just view it as not actually

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Speaker 1: rooted in the science. They're just lying. But they made

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Speaker 1: it's very clear that the health authorities, the Fauciites, made

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Speaker 1: a decision that they're going to ignore this enormously important

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Speaker 1: part of the entire equation here and make everybody get

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Speaker 1: a shot because the one size fits all of get

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Speaker 1: the shot or or else was a thing they were

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Speaker 1: most comfortable with, both from a dealing with their unreasonable

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Speaker 1: COVID anxiety perspective, but also their desire to set I

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Speaker 1: think a precedent and a standard where the government, now

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Speaker 1: under health authority, has more control than it ever has

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Speaker 1: before over people's day to day lives, which we've seen,

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Speaker 1: and I think that that's why you're starting to see

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Speaker 1: some folks come around and say, well, hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: why is it that now we are just we're just

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Speaker 1: beginning to hear about natural immunity. We're just beginning to

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Speaker 1: hear from Fauci that they're counting breakthrough infections. Isn't that

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Speaker 1: absolutely essential data? How can you be pushing a vaccine

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Speaker 1: on everybody saying you must get this, it's irresponsible not

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Speaker 1: to and not know how many people who get the

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Speaker 1: vaccine Clay still get sick and in some cases still

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Speaker 1: go to the hospital and even in some cases die. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is the reality of this, But they don't have

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Speaker 1: those numbers. Kind of like how they never really wanted

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Speaker 1: to know how much natural immunity was out there through

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Speaker 1: prology testing, through the blood test, they could have been

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Speaker 1: tracking it every single month, Clay. They track the numbers

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Speaker 1: they want to use for the policies they insist on,

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Speaker 1: and they ignore the ones that they don't like. And

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Speaker 1: here's what I would say. We have a ton of

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Speaker 1: people in media who listen to this show. As Rush

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Speaker 1: used to say, a lot of people listen to this

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Speaker 1: show as prepped for their job. Happy. We're happy to help.

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Speaker 1: We're help, happy to help. What I would say is

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Speaker 1: we need Fauci because he won't come on our show.

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Speaker 1: We need Faucci pressed on these questions. These are significant

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Speaker 1: and important question some other journals please your eye some

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Speaker 1: of our questions, Yes, like take our someone asking how

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Speaker 1: we can take him seriously when he says things like

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Speaker 1: we haven't really looked get breakthrough infections as a number.

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Speaker 1: What more important? You're counting every vaccination. You're counting every

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Speaker 1: second vaccination. You're telling us to get boosters. You're counting

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Speaker 1: every case, including people who are fine. Yeah, but you're

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Speaker 1: not going to know how many times the vaccine is

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Speaker 1: failing to prevent infection. Gee, it's like a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty big deal, Clay. I do

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Speaker 1: I think that there's I think there's something funky going

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Speaker 1: on here, you know what, And again, we encourage everybody

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Speaker 1: just ask those questions. We'll play your questions on our

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Speaker 1: we've learned anything since twenty twenty, it's there's nothing quite

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Speaker 1: This is Buck in NYC, Clay out in Tennessee, and

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Speaker 1: we got Kirsten Cinema, the Senator who was followed into

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Speaker 1: a bathroom over the weekend by a amnesty activist. Right though,

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Speaker 1: you always know what someone thinks about immigration, just so

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Speaker 1: you know in the press, based on the words they use.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the second you hear undocumented, then you've got

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Speaker 1: somebody who's essentially in favor of de facto open borders,

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Speaker 1: certainly of amnesty. Anyone who uses undocumented, people who use

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Speaker 1: the term activist with with reverence, oh well, that person's

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Speaker 1: an activist. So that's always a big tale, that's a

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Speaker 1: big sign. But here we have Kirsen Cinema, who the

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Speaker 1: left has decided is in the way of their more

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Speaker 1: grandiose socialist agenda. And although she's a person of the left,

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Speaker 1: she's clearly a Democrat. This is not like she's a

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Speaker 1: stealth conservative at all, which is so interesting in all this,

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Speaker 1: she was followed by an illegal alien confronted her on

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Speaker 1: a commercial flight. I just want to know if you

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Speaker 1: can commit a reconculation that's good, provide a pathwa citizenship.

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Speaker 1: Immigrants have been waiting for this for too long. Commit

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Speaker 1: reconculation immigration for people to be protected me and I

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Speaker 1: just want to my life and the life of mine. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not in her power to give them what they're

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Speaker 1: asking for. Even if she agreed, it wouldn't make a difference, Clay.

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Speaker 1: But it's really it seems like this is about the

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Speaker 1: theatricality and people on the left, and this is this

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Speaker 1: is like a form. It's the same way that the

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Speaker 1: left loves to protest. They love to get out and protest.

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Speaker 1: And yes they'll bring their kids who are five to

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Speaker 1: the anti gun violence rally, as if they're five year

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Speaker 1: old knows what the NRA is. You know, the left

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Speaker 1: legs to do this. They also, I think they get

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Speaker 1: some joy out of harassing people based on their politics.

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Speaker 1: I really do. I think we have to fundamentally you

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Speaker 1: repudiate this idea regardless of what your politics are. And

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Speaker 1: this was what I was saying yesterday about Biden failing.

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Speaker 1: The idea that you go up to a stranger with

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Speaker 1: your hand, with a camera in your hand basically your phone,

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Speaker 1: state your opinion and hold it right in their face

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Speaker 1: for them, expecting them to respond. Buck. This is I mean,

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Speaker 1: go back in time. Do you remember the television show

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Speaker 1: hard Copy back in the day. Do you remember the

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Speaker 1: way that so many people out there in America had

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Speaker 1: a great deal of disdain and disgust when they saw,

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Speaker 1: for instance, a house just burns down, and some journalist

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Speaker 1: camera and try to record them. Right. It felt like

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Speaker 1: that invaded the personal space. Now we've created a society

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Speaker 1: where everybody is basically a hard copy reporter running right

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Speaker 1: up on everybody in the face and confronting them. We

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Speaker 1: got to reject and repudiate. I think this the exact

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Speaker 1: opposite of what, by the way, Congressman Maxine Water said,

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Speaker 1: which has emboldened and encouraged this kind of behavior because

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Speaker 1: where it leads Buck is ultimately I really believe this

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Speaker 1: to some form of violence, particularly when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: women being confronted. I just I don't like this idea

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Speaker 1: of walking up in the bathroom on a woman of

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Speaker 1: of you know, if I think about it from my mom,

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Speaker 1: my wife, if I had a daughter's perspective, I don't

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Speaker 1: like the idea of invading anyone's personal space. But I

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Speaker 1: think when we're doing it to female politicians, it strikes

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Speaker 1: me even more aggressively and uncomfortable, because what we're gonna have, Buck,

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Speaker 1: is men eventually getting in the personal space of women

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Speaker 1: it makes people uncomfortable. We tend to be remember this,

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Speaker 1: it's meant to be intimidated. Yeah, there's no part of

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Speaker 1: them on the left when they do these things. This

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Speaker 1: is not new. This is pretty standard. They liked to

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Speaker 1: trying to clearly destroy a manifestly innocent man by lying

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Speaker 1: because it was so important to them to protect abortion

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Speaker 1: that's what Cavanaugh the whole thing was really about. Or

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Speaker 1: they chase them, they yell at them. There's no repudiation

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Speaker 1: I say, I don't like that, right, there was I

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Speaker 1: think there was one time I even forget what the

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Speaker 1: issue was, where a bunch of you know, a group

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Speaker 1: of people who were conservative did the whole we're blocking

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Speaker 1: a bridge and creating a traffic snaw thing. There's a

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Speaker 1: what it was about. I'm like, don't do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hate that there are people who are trying to

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Speaker 1: to work. It is wildly inappropriate. It's illegal, and it's wrong.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sorry you don't like the tax

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Speaker 1: bill or you don't like the healthcare policy or whatever,

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Speaker 1: but blocking traffic is not something that people in a

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Speaker 1: society that leaves in order in the rule of law do.

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Speaker 1: The left, they embrace this stuff. This is the point

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Speaker 1: is they don't see a problem. That's why Biden did

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Speaker 1: his whole Well. I don't really like good but you

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Speaker 1: know what happen part of the process. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's supposed to be the fake moderate that sits in

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Speaker 1: front all and in front of all this stuff. You know,

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Speaker 1: when they would ate a buck if it were a

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Speaker 1: conservative doing it to a liberal politician. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: imagine if a bunch of conservative, you know, maga hat

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Speaker 1: wearers chased AOC onto an airplane and we're demanding and

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Speaker 1: we're well, I think it was it was it was

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Speaker 1: a woman that chased her in the even still it

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Speaker 1: could still be wearing maga hats, and they would lose

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Speaker 1: their minds. They would absolutely lose their minds. They'd say that.

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Speaker 1: You know, remember Clay, the left will say anything speeches violence,

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Speaker 1: silence is violence, and then when they do actual violence,

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Speaker 1: they say, oh, that wasn't violence. You know, we were

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Speaker 1: just we were just speaking our minds. You know, they're crazy,

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Speaker 1: but we'll come back the irs. It's gonna be scary

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Speaker 1: if the left gets their way. I'll tell you why

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Speaker 1: you're listening to Clay Travis sent Buck Sexton on the

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