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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Fire, Ram, It's me Jason McIntire, Straight

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Speaker 2: Lawyer for Wednesday, March the twenty fifth. We are getting

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Speaker 2: close to the Sweet sixteen. We are getting close to

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Speaker 2: the end of the NBA regular season. NFL Draft is

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Speaker 2: what four weeks away. We're gonna have a good draft

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Speaker 2: guest on tomorrow. We'll just touch on the draft a

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Speaker 2: little bit later. But you know, it's it's this. It

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Speaker 2: was a slow Tuesday, and I'm and I'm scrolling through

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Speaker 2: and I see this big thing about Kate Cunningham and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, please tell me he's returning. We

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Speaker 2: don't need Kate missing the playoffs, you know, And it

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Speaker 2: was it was nothing like I expected.

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Speaker 3: Rob.

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Speaker 2: The NBA Players Association is so unhappy that Kate is

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Speaker 2: out for the rest of the season. He will not

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Speaker 2: make the sixty five game minimum. The guy was an

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Speaker 2: MVP candidate three weeks ago. He was literally second in

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Speaker 2: MVP voting. I put a couple bucks I centered here

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Speaker 2: on the pod. Hey listen, if SGA doesn't come back,

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Speaker 2: he missed it any more time. Sg's gonna lose this

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Speaker 2: award to Kate because I don't think Yokic is gonna

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Speaker 4: I don't know about Wemby.

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Speaker 2: Luca was like in the rear, he was like fourth

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Speaker 2: it's very clear due to the collapse loong, he's not

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Speaker 2: gonna play. The NBA Players Association wants to abolish the

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Speaker 2: sixty five game rule minimum.

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Speaker 4: I was floored by this. Rob.

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Speaker 2: I will say it was a goofy rule to begin with,

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Speaker 2: but to use kid Cunningham as the jumping off.

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Speaker 3: Point, like what kay?

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Speaker 2: Here's the exact quote, Caid. Cunningham's potential ineligibility for postseason

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Speaker 2: awards after a career defining season is a clear indictment

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Speaker 2: of the sixty five game rule, yet another example of

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Speaker 2: why it must be abolished reformed to create an exception

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Speaker 2: for significant injuries. Since its implementation, far too many deserving

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Speaker 2: players have been unfairly disqualified from end of the season

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Speaker 2: honors by this arbitrary and overly rigid quota. Now he's

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Speaker 2: not gonna run MVP, Rob regarding All NBA, which he

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Speaker 2: was going to be first team. Can you play fewer

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Speaker 3: You're asking me or I'm asking question. I think you

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Speaker 4: But what is the rules? Stay you have to play

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Speaker 3: I gotta play sixty five.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So he goes from top three, MVP and first

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Speaker 2: team All NBA and tumbles out of all of it.

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Speaker 2: Now here's where it gets weird. There is contracts are

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Speaker 2: connected to All NBA, so this kind of nonsense could

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Speaker 2: end up costing Kate money. Now I believe he just

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Speaker 2: got a new deal with in the last two years,

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Speaker 2: so it doesn't impact him, but it could have, and

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Speaker 2: it could impact someone else this year, next year, Cooper

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Speaker 2: fly down the road, who knows. And it sucks that

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Speaker 2: this when they were trying to do it to stamp

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Speaker 2: out players sitting for no reason. And you know, eighty

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Speaker 2: two games, if you miss seventeen, you're still eligible, but

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Speaker 2: if you miss eighteen, say good night, and you know,

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Speaker 2: a collapse lung is nothing to scoff at. And now

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Speaker 2: he's done, and I'm totally with the Players Association here.

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Speaker 2: My question is, Rob, I don't know is this going

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Speaker 3: this offseason, I think with the way that the all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, like you said, it was not

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Speaker 3: telling me that we trust you to vote on that,

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Speaker 3: But if we don't give you the sixty five game rule,

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Speaker 2: It's like they want to the media is judge in

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Speaker 2: In an Sga Wemby debate, the Spurs did finish behind

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Speaker 4: But I don't know should AI pick the MVP?

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you think that that's necessary? I don't.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying, if you just remove the sixty five,

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Speaker 2: But so two thousand minutes divided by eighty two games

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Speaker 4: The only other NBA story I saw is this Steph

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Speaker 4: Curry thing. Rob.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how plugged in you are or care

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Speaker 2: I think Monday Night, just shredded his knee, got to

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Speaker 2: He's done, and it's like the team is just cratering

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Speaker 2: and they're trying like hell to get Steph Curry back

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Speaker 2: well Curry's gonna he's kind of practicing, but he can't

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Speaker 4: Well, he's hopeful to play in the play in game.

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Speaker 2: He's been out forever. Why not just say we're shutting

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Speaker 2: They're not winning anything with Curry. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: to watch a superstar like that just totally fall out

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Speaker 2: shows Lebron's iron Man status. Rob I mean, this guy

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Speaker 2: He got hurt in last year's playoffs, so offt tissue

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Speaker 2: Injre was Jimmy Butler out for the season. Jannis says

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Speaker 2: break down a little. It's just disappointing as a Curry hank. Now,

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Speaker 2: obviously the league is fine. I'm not making any statements.

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Speaker 2: The league is gonna you know, hey, Peyton Manning and

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Speaker 4: NFL is screwed. Where are they going?

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Speaker 2: To find new stars. It's gonna the league's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: We do this all the time.

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Speaker 4: It's not an issue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what's funny is is Steve Kerr

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Speaker 3: So I'm signing up to watch hobbled Steph Curry pods,

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Speaker 4: Like lose and they're probably gonna lose.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna lose, though, It's like, what's the point, you know,

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Speaker 3: much as we would enjoy another week or two weeks

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Speaker 3: more about you long term. And we have this pie

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Speaker 3: I think he's carried this franchise on his back long

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Speaker 2: Here. Let me just ask you. They are gonna play Portland.

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Speaker 2: This is totally random, brump. It's a test I would

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Speaker 4: Portland who have started the most games for them this year?

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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a fun challenge. Okay, Camara, I think Camara.

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if you're cheating. I mean I

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Speaker 2: did not even know he's starting that much. Holy they

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Speaker 4: According to ESPN, he started forty two games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I that'll be that. I haven't

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Speaker 2: There was a non current NBA story that popped up.

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Speaker 2: Tell if it's real with Pippin because he says some

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Speaker 4: That's it. That's very very odd.

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Speaker 3: You would think a man of his stature wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: he's been regarded as the sidekick to Michael Jordan for

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Speaker 3: the Bulls forever. Right, and then a voiceover track from

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Speaker 3: someone else says, you know, decades long plot built on

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Speaker 3: Yes, so when we got the Last Dance, It really

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Speaker 3: And if you recall watching The Last Dance America, you

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Speaker 3: we're not for Michael Jordan, the Bulls don't win any championships.

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Speaker 3: And so for Scottie Pippen, who, as I just mentioned,

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Speaker 3: that is Michael Jordan, I understand why it would bother him.

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Speaker 2: You start around where Pippen ranks, you start to think, like, okay, well,

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Speaker 2: And obviously it is a fact Michael Jordan won nothing

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Speaker 3: him to say that about J Dubb was very interesting.

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Speaker 2: growing or having at least some positive stuff, it's probably

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Speaker 2: not great for the long term health. But I don't know, Rob,

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Speaker 2: would you would you agree disagree?

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Speaker 4: Or maybe this is being overblown.

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Speaker 3: It's not everything, but it's not nothing either in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: Like you can't just dismiss something like that, Oh you know,

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Speaker 3: it's just a blip in the radar. Of course you

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Speaker 3: have to factor that in and I think, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you probably know it's better than I would didn't like

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Speaker 3: sixty percent of the NBA local television deals fold when

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Speaker 3: the Bally Sports FanDuel situation came about, like where they

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Speaker 3: went bankrupt and then FanDuel tried to buy them and

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Speaker 3: then they couldn't keep it solvent, so now they're trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out another way to do this. I know

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Speaker 3: it happened in baseball, and I'm almost positive the same

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Speaker 3: thing is going on in the NBA because it's the

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Speaker 3: same regional television networks. Like not everybody is the Lakers

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Speaker 3: where they're printing money or the Dodgers printing money with

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Speaker 3: their TV deal, Like so much of this local revenue

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Speaker 3: is kind of being because it's all like I know

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Speaker 3: this like inside baseball conversation, Like you have a thing

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Speaker 3: like Denver Nuggets where if you live in Denver, you

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Speaker 3: can't watch their games because like the blackhouse with Root Sports,

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Speaker 3: and that's a real problem. And I think that's part

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Speaker 3: of the reason why the NBA has leaned so heavily

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Speaker 3: into so many different streaming outlets and so many more

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Speaker 3: national games than they ever had before. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: look at the national schedule. Every day is prep for

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Speaker 3: the radio show, and it's like, man, there's a national

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Speaker 3: game on Peacock like four nights a week.

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Speaker 2: It's too much now, just to be clear, So the

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Speaker 2: cap is not decreasing, it's still increasing by eleven million,

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Speaker 2: but their projection had been twelve right, right, So it's slight.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's You're right, it's something, but it's not everything.

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Speaker 2: And they got to sort out that, you know, you have.

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Speaker 2: But Windhorse talks about that all the time, Like where

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Speaker 2: he lives in Nebraska, he cannot watch the Denver Nuggets,

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Speaker 2: which are the closest NBA team, And like, you.

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Speaker 4: Gotta figure that out.

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Speaker 2: Now when you bring in a Vegas and you bring

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Speaker 2: in a Seattle, I don't think those issues are going

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Speaker 2: to be something. So actually that goes back to somebody

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Speaker 2: was saying, well, there's just no appetite for the NBA

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Speaker 2: with like the New Orleans Pelicans or the Memphis Grizzlies.

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Speaker 2: Instead of expanding, why don't you just move those to

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Speaker 2: Seattle and to Vegas? And I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: the answer. I cannot imagine those owners would want to

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Speaker 2: give up their team because they're still making money on

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Speaker 2: the team. Trust me, they are making money, Otherwise they

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Speaker 2: would sell the damn team.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to close with a story that

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Speaker 2: obviously not great news, but I wanted to posit this

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Speaker 2: to Rob g because I saw it.

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Speaker 4: It's about its guy Mendoza with the Raiders. Here's my question.

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Speaker 2: So, obviously we know that Fernando Mendoza is kind of

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Speaker 2: a come out of nowhere kind of guy. He a

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Speaker 2: year ago, at this time, nobody was saying, Hey, the

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Speaker 2: guy Fernando Mendoza Indiana. He could win the title and

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Speaker 2: go number one and be the Heisman winner. Absolutely nobody

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Speaker 2: was saying that. So the season happens and Mendoza just

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Speaker 2: keeps winning and delivering, and then you look at the

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Speaker 2: stats and he was fine. But this one just popped

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Speaker 2: out of me. So, going back to two thousand and

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Speaker 2: nine Power conferences, here are the first round quarterbacks who

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Speaker 2: had fewer than two three hundred yard passing games. Now

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Speaker 2: that's a little bit of a word salad, but basically

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Speaker 2: three hundred yards is like the line of demarcation for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: You throw for two twenty five is not a big deal.

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Speaker 2: You throw it for three fifty, okay, really good. Three

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Speaker 2: hundred is considered the average. So that first round quarterback

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Speaker 2: with fewer than two three hundred yard passing games in

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Speaker 2: their final college season. So oh yes, a lot of qualifiers.

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Speaker 2: Here's the list.

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Speaker 4: Jim Tebow had won three hundred yard game.

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Speaker 2: Jake Locker Washington Huskies, who was overdrafted by the Titans,

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Speaker 2: never did anything.

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Speaker 4: He had one three hundred yard game.

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy from Michigan at Minnesota right now going through

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Speaker 2: some stuff, he had one three hundred yard game. Christian

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Speaker 2: Ponder Florida State went in the first round, had zero

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Speaker 2: three hundred yard games. And Fernando Mendoza had one three

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Speaker 2: hundred yard game. Not a great list, Rob, are you terrified?

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Speaker 3: Terrified is not the right word. I'm I'm a little uneasy,

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Speaker 3: a little queasy about it because this has been a

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Speaker 3: talking point for us, you know, for months now, you know,

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Speaker 3: with once it became clear the Raiders get then I'm

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Speaker 3: one overall pick. It's like, well, it's the Mendoza sweepstakes.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, yeah, why is it the Mendoza sweepstakes?

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Speaker 3: Like this is not a tank for two situation. This

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Speaker 3: is not a March for Art situation where it's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, coming in that this guy is and has

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Speaker 3: been the top dog now for a year, two years,

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Speaker 3: six months, whatever, Mendoza only became the top guy, like

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Speaker 3: mostly because all the other top guys fell off, fell off. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Drew Allerd got hurt, you know, Kate club Nick, you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of fell off there for a minute. And as

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Speaker 3: a result, you got dudes like Ty Simpson jumping up

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Speaker 3: and now he might be considered as the best available

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Speaker 3: quarter back. And you know, Arch Manning got off to

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Speaker 3: a slow start, and so it's as all these things

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Speaker 3: sort of happened, and then it just became accepted as

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Speaker 3: truth that Fernanda Mendozo was the hands down, slammed duck

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Speaker 3: number one overall pick. And it's now that we get

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Speaker 3: further and deeper into this draft process, you're finally starting

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Speaker 3: to see people publicly at least poke holes in his narrative,

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Speaker 3: which I think is totally fair given that he was

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Speaker 3: never viewed as a Caleb Williams, you know, Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 3: Andrew Luk type got to begin with. So I would

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Speaker 3: be shocked if we weren't getting this kind of commentary

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Speaker 3: at this point in time.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, So, you know, you got dan Or Lowski coming

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Speaker 2: out saying I'm talking to people around the league, and

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Speaker 2: more than a few say, Ty Simpson's QB one. I

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Speaker 2: got a mock draft coming out later today. I don't

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Speaker 2: have Simpson in the first round anymore. I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: Ta you know, regular guest on this podcast during NFL season.

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Speaker 2: He's got all these databases. I mean, this floored me.

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Speaker 4: Rob.

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Speaker 2: So according to Ta ty this is how he characterized

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Speaker 2: Tye Simpson. The guy is old, twenty three and a half,

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Speaker 2: almost with limited starts, has terrible measurables height, weight, hand size.

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Speaker 2: And here's how he stacks up against all the other

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks drafted over the last twenty years.

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Speaker 4: Age.

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Speaker 2: He's in the thirty third percentile height, eleventh weight, tenth arm,

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Speaker 2: seventeenth hand, thirty second.

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Speaker 4: That's not great. And then it gets worse.

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Speaker 2: Teams that were below the thirty fifth percentile that drafted

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Speaker 2: a quarterback and thirty fifth percentile and height, weight, hand size.

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Speaker 4: And age.

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Speaker 2: Here are the names, Okay, Dylan Gabriel, Tyler Wilson.

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Speaker 4: I don't know who Tyler Wilson is.

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Speaker 2: Arkansas quarterback Baker Mayfield, who pops John David Boody should

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Speaker 2: do Aaron Murray.

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Speaker 4: Former Georgia quarterback Jordan Travis.

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Speaker 2: FSU guy who got hurt Derek Carr, David Fails, Tracey mcstorley,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Allen, Pat White, Skylar Thompson. I mean that's twenty

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Speaker 2: years and you basically have with the traits and measurables

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Speaker 2: of Ty Simpson. You have two of them that have

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Speaker 2: Pop Baker Mayfield and it took him as fourth team

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Speaker 2: to pop right and Derek Carr, who I believe started

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Speaker 2: one playoff game in his career.

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Speaker 4: Now that's Ty Simpson.

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Speaker 2: So what we can assume is if you don't like

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Speaker 2: Bernando Mendoza and he doesn't have the numbers, and you

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Speaker 2: don't like Ty Simpson because of his measurables, and you

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Speaker 2: know everything that I just said, this is an awful

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Speaker 2: draft for quarterbacks, downright terrible. Your guy club Nick nuss Meyer,

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Speaker 2: who Drew Aller like you said, I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: this is.

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Speaker 3: Leak Yeah, bad year from our Raiders to tenk and

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Speaker 3: get the numb one overall pick. I mean, thankfully, you

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Speaker 3: know they try to alienate Max Crosby in the process

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Speaker 3: by benching at the end of the season and making

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Speaker 3: him force to trade out of Baltimore. Thankfully, the Baltimore

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Speaker 3: Ravens are so sketchy that they rescinded the trade and

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Speaker 3: now he's back, so it didn't cost us all that much.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this is not good, you know, I mean

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Speaker 3: you look at I know you've brought this up before.

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Speaker 3: I want to say that the Felika mentioned this. The

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Speaker 3: whole narrative around Mendoza's like, well, he's a winner, right,

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Speaker 3: like in Indiana, the greatest story in college football history.

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Speaker 3: Did you know that Kurt Sinnetti has had five different

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Speaker 3: starting quarterbacks in each of the last five seasons, including Mendoza,

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Speaker 3: and all went on to win All conference honors. So

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Speaker 3: every quarterback who plays for Kurt Signetti does numbers. But

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Speaker 3: I'm just supposed to assume that because Mendoza happened to

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Speaker 3: go undefeated, happened to play for one of the great

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Speaker 3: stories in college football history, and because he happens to

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Speaker 3: be six foot five, that just doombs than that he

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Speaker 3: is going to be a great NFL quarterback. None of

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Speaker 3: the other four guys who played us and Eddie did anything.

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Speaker 3: So what makes him different?

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Speaker 4: That's a great question. I think the fact that he

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Speaker 4: wanted Indiana.

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Speaker 2: So I'm looking at his cow stats, first year, whatever,

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Speaker 2: second year as a starter, twenty twenty four, had eleven games,

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Speaker 2: sixteen touchdown, six picks, sixteen touchdowns. He leaped up to

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Speaker 2: forty one at Indiana. Now he played sixteen games of

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Speaker 2: five more games.

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Speaker 4: But still I don't know, Rob. I mean, I like

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Speaker 4: Mendos a lot.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's when you start to like overanalyze stuff

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Speaker 2: over the course of weeks and months, you start to

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Speaker 2: poke holes in it and like, oh, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: could this be as bad as the draft wars?

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Speaker 4: Gino Smith got taken Colley, I don't know, man, but

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get robbed. Two down. We are

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Speaker 4: back tomorrow, more draft talk. See then,