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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode to eighty five. Jimmy Allen will be

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Speaker 1: on talks about reaching out to Morgan Wallen, also meeting

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Speaker 1: hanging out with Kobe Bryant, which is cool. We'll also

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Speaker 1: talk about country artists with the most Grammys in Who's

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Speaker 1: the Living Legend Now, so big episode here, Let's start

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Speaker 1: with the New Music Top five. At number five this

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Speaker 1: week that I'm excited to check out, Carrie Underwood put

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Speaker 1: out a new gospel song called nothing but the Blood

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Speaker 1: of Jesus for my part of this Queen Nothing Jess

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Speaker 1: and number four this week, Jordan Davis has a song

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Speaker 1: out called need to Notw'm need that I'm meeting. At

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Speaker 1: number three, Nick Jonas has a new album called Spaceman,

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Speaker 1: and here's a new song called This Is Heaven. I'm

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Speaker 1: always drawn to the Jonas brothers stuff. I always go

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Speaker 1: bonus Brothers, but every song they put out really good,

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Speaker 1: even Nick Jonas and what those other brothers said too,

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Speaker 1: And Nick's like, guys, I'm gonna go back solo from me.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're cool with skit like on SNL with

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Speaker 1: Kevin Yeah, He's like, hey man, I just bought a

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Speaker 1: Number two Lady A has a new song called Like

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Speaker 1: a Lady? Is that Charles Kelly singing background on Like

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Speaker 1: a Lady? It sounds like it feels weird. I should

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Speaker 1: just be like Hillary only. And number one Darius Rutger

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Speaker 1: my master Pieces love man you. In music News, Jay

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Speaker 1: Z's net worth jump. He's now worth one point four

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Speaker 1: one to one point four day. Nico Moon Lance's first

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Speaker 1: ever number one, dam More, I hear it more. I

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Speaker 1: love it? You know me too? Yeah? More, I hear

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Speaker 1: it more. I love it, always liked it, then started

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Speaker 1: to love a little bit, but now I love it.

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Speaker 1: Just such a good song. Yeah, we paid get on

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Speaker 1: him get the very first rock song turned seventy years

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Speaker 1: old last week, which I didn't know this song honestly,

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Speaker 1: It's called Rocket eighty eight by Ike Turner and the

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Speaker 1: Kings of Rhythm heard the knowing they make, but let

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Speaker 1: And speaking of Darius he has the number one song

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Speaker 1: this week that we're looking forward to. But he's been

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Speaker 1: named Southerner of the Year by Southern Living magazine, which

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Speaker 1: recognized him for his work his music efforts but raising

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Speaker 1: money for St. Jude. Just a good dude, Love Darius,

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Speaker 1: I love it. Check it out. Here's Jimmy Allen and

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Speaker 1: then a bunch of Grammy talk Enjoy here with Jimmy Allen,

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Speaker 1: which I was looking at some of the track listing

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Speaker 1: for for Betty James. And I'm always curious at the

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Speaker 1: process and asking people much cooler than yourself, no no offense,

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Speaker 1: much cooler than yourself to do something with you, because

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Speaker 1: I doesn't have to ask people cooler, way cooler than

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Speaker 1: little weird about it. How do you ask, for example,

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Speaker 1: let's do the song now, you and Brad Paisley, you

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Speaker 1: Freedom was a Highway? How does that ask go? Do

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Speaker 1: you do it? Or did your people do it? Man?

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Speaker 1: So I kind of did on myself. It kind of

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Speaker 1: He said Bill shatners here. I was like, that was

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Speaker 1: Bill Shatan. She's like William shat I was like, you know, people,

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Speaker 1: I've never heard him called Bill Shadder before. So I

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Speaker 1: Brad and Darius and I'm sitting here looking like, how

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Speaker 1: do with Charlie Bride drinking song. I was like good point.

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Speaker 1: So the day after Kobe died, Um, I was writing

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Speaker 1: it was me my bass player, take how Um, who

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Speaker 1: Karrie Barl on Brandon Day. We wrote it the day

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Speaker 1: one of the most motivated people I ever knew. Like

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Speaker 1: more motivated, Like you know, what, can't I do what

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Speaker 1: people say I can't do, I gotta go do it.

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Speaker 1: So that's what kind of how that song came about.

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Speaker 1: So I called Charlie Um give it to Darius and

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Speaker 1: they were like yeah, um. So that's kind of how

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Speaker 1: I'm this COLLABORIP already got the artist. They all said yes.

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Speaker 1: What about Nellie? Um? Nellie? He was in town? I

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Speaker 1: text my manager, Yo, Nellie's in town. Can you find

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Speaker 1: out why? He was like yeah, sure, So he finds

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Speaker 1: then he said, hey, Nelly, correct with you to night

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Speaker 1: at nine. But we wrote there like two thousand nineteen,

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Speaker 1: Let's see, so that I was gonna play some of

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Speaker 1: Made for These which is you and McGraw, like, play

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Speaker 1: me a clip of this Goose Days. So if Tim

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Speaker 1: vision and heck he didn't love would you have said,

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Speaker 1: can we cut this little diffrin? Or oh yeah, oh what?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Because I feel like when you're creating music, man,

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Speaker 1: knowing Tim's capability, like he killed that. So I remember

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Speaker 1: Tim told me said, dude, you're gonna make me like

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if I didn't feel it was done right,

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Speaker 1: redoing this part or we're doing that even thing you

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Speaker 1: He didn't feel like I think people are gonna kill

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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant? Man, I met Kobe at a Lakers game backstage,

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Speaker 1: Uh well, and like round in the locker room area

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Speaker 1: room in two thousand and six? Man, I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you something about me. I used to sneak in a

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Speaker 1: lot of places, bro, Like I've snuck in the Grammy parties.

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Speaker 1: I've snuck into Seasick Awards. I snuck into the See

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Speaker 1: Maze before. If I got a wreak a deal Because

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Speaker 1: this is the thing when you're a black guy with

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Speaker 1: said what's up? Man? He was like, he's like, what's

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Speaker 1: I think I've We've had about overt conversations. Did ever

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Speaker 1: It was like Jimmy Kobe, Oh yeah, I got to

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Speaker 1: a peer to peer. We're both then. Nah, it was

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Speaker 1: couple events in Miami, he was there. I was there.

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Speaker 1: Like I used to like purposely put myself in places

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Speaker 1: to meet people because I feel like, if you want

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Speaker 1: to be successful, you gotta surround yourself with successful people.

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Speaker 1: That's why I was killing myself when I first moved

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Speaker 1: I was watching you playing one of the celebrity Maybe

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Speaker 1: it was because I don't think they had an All

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Speaker 1: Star game last year, but the year before, were you

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Speaker 1: playing in the Celebrity A A Star game? Now that

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Speaker 1: was Kane. I played in the Celebrity game. I watched

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Speaker 1: you a few years ago. All my years are done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everything it was. It was a monster. It was just

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Speaker 1: Monster inc. Celebrity game I did with Floyd Mayweather and

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Speaker 1: like t O and Gronk and all of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all the celebrity games to me are the same and

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Speaker 1: I don't know the difference. And I just remember seeing

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Speaker 1: Because every time on Instagram, not not recently, you've been

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Speaker 1: a couple of times when he was in town and

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Speaker 1: was extremely nice and talent when I was an idol.

424
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Speaker 1: Was he you went during that that Randy and j Lo.

425
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Speaker 1: Well he was so nice to me here, but I

426
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 1: don't want to bother him or expect Steven Tyler of

427
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 1: Aerosmith to remember me. So so we're walking beside she goes, hey,

428
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Speaker 1: what's a man? He just see something? Guy? You have

429
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: a guy walking? Next time, I'm like, hey, man, how

430
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,719
Speaker 1: are you? And he goes and I was like, are

431
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Steven Tyler recognizes me at Disney World

432
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: with no prompt whatsoever. So my Disney experience was pretty

433
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: good too, And Steven Tyler was there, have you going

434
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: to Disney? World in Florida. Yet I went and had

435
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: dinner there because I had a friend who now works

436
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: at Apple, Michael Bryan, who had programmed there before, and

437
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, I'll get you into that the

438
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: greatest food place. But I haven't done all the park

439
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: stuff there. See we do it now. So I went

440
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 1: to my problems in two thousand and twelve, I like,

441
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: work three jobs and saved up enough and I took

442
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: my mom and two of my sisters. We went um.

443
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: But then I went to Disneyland after that. But Disneyland

444
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: is so small compared to Disney World. And now I

445
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: remember we were just there a couple of weeks ago,

446
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: a week ago, and we got to v Happy Tour again,

447
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 1: and then they have two sets of Happy Tours. They

448
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 1: have some rep tours where you get in the fast

449
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 1: past lane and if you're a quote unquote celebrity, they

450
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: take you around the back through the exit and you

451
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: literally just hop straight on a ride. And I felt

452
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: so bad. I'm looking at these lines that are like

453
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: two and a half hours, little kids out there waiting

454
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: and sweating. But I didn't feel bad, you know why,

455
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: because I've waited in lines before. When I first I

456
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: was like, you got this, kid, you work hard man,

457
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: You'll be here too. You got this. You're giving the

458
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Speaker 1: kids that Kobe talked there two hours back in line, man,

459
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: hanging there. You do anything? You got this. I've waited

460
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: in my lines for three hours. You once turned down

461
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: a record deal from a label in l A that

462
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: I read was gonna give you over a million dollars advance.

463
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: Is that true now? Because did they want you to

464
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: be a different kind of artist and you wanted to

465
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: be or was it terms of the deal and both

466
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: terms of the deal and the artists They wanted me

467
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Speaker 1: in my band to be kind of like a hip

468
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,719
Speaker 1: hop version of One Republic. Um. So I wear when

469
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Speaker 1: I'm not performing and I'm wearing sweats and sneakers all day,

470
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: but on stage, I love my boots. Um, I love

471
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Speaker 1: my jeans. Uh. They told me they didn't want me

472
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Speaker 1: to dip. I had had my dip. Can they want

473
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Speaker 1: to wants to be more hip hop influence to where

474
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Speaker 1: I love. I do love hip hop. I include hip hop,

475
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: R and B rock and all that stuff in my

476
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: music now, but it's it's intentional where I placed it.

477
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: They wanted to just be heavy hip hop loop, um no,

478
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: no live bands, none of that. So I was just

479
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: like h. And then with that, with that advance, I

480
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: still had to take my money for myself out of it,

481
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: and then my band, and then I had to you know,

482
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: uh pay for my first album with that, you know,

483
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: then you got taxes, and then so when it really

484
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: dwindles down, then you gotta pay it back. Right the

485
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 1: word advances where it's at, it's a loan, you know.

486
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: So for me it was just like nah, you know.

487
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 1: But for me, it really just came down to music

488
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: and creativity and kind of what I wanted to do.

489
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: You know. Um, I have a whether other people see

490
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: it or not, I kind of have a vision kind

491
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: of for like my life, music, TV, film, radio, all

492
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: that stuff. Um So if something doesn't align with my vision,

493
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: no matter how great the opportunity might seem to someone else,

494
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: it's just not for me, you know what I mean?

495
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: Is it hard to and I could probably understand and

496
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: have empathy for the situation for you, Is it hard

497
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: now growing up with nothing to turn down really great

498
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: paying opportunities because they're right on the fence of feeling

499
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 1: right or just chasing the money. Man, it's hard to

500
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: turn it down sometimes. Um, but I feel like you

501
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: can devalue yourself a lot of times and just saying

502
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: yes to everything, um, no matter how big the money is.

503
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: Because no, every every time you sign on to do something,

504
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: you're giving a piece of yourself away. So my thing is,

505
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: if I give a piece of myself away, is it

506
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: worth it? You know what I mean? Does it align

507
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: with my vision? Um? Career does align with my vision

508
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: as a as a person? Like morally does it align

509
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: with with what I want to do? But so what

510
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: do you want to do musically? Like? What right now?

511
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: Where are you in your head? And what you're trying

512
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 1: to do musically? Not even close? Um? I want to

513
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: want to continue to put music out, you know more.

514
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: My plan is hopefully one day be able to headline

515
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: arenas Um. But that, to me, that's the piece of it.

516
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: What about the kind of music you're making? Oh? I

517
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: love the kind of music I'm making. Um. At some point, um,

518
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: knowing me, I would probably do uh like a straight

519
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: just like Latin slash reggae album at some point, Scott,

520
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: I love Latin music. Um, I'll um, uh where does

521
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: that come from? Where does this? Where does the love

522
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: of Latin music come from in your life growing up

523
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: a kid in Delaware, Man, I listened to everything, Like

524
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: my dad only listened to country and my mom won't

525
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: listen to Christian, But I listen to everything growing up

526
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: Latin music, you know, blues, rock, hip hop, R and B, jazz, classical, Um, Broadway.

527
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: I want to do a full on musical theater album,

528
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: like twelve songs and songs that were being a play. UM,

529
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: let's love it. So that's why two. My planning to

530
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: take four months off, go to New York the Browers show,

531
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: do that we're working on some TV movies. Go to

532
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: New York and do a Broadway show. What do you

533
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: mean do like like Jennifer Nettles, Like when they go

534
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: up and they're just a part of a show and

535
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: they live up there, part of the show. So I'll

536
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: take four months. My plan is to be airin Burr

537
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: in Hamilton's. Um did they know that yet? Uh they're

538
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: they're about to uh u t as work on that

539
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: right now. But yeah, it's gonna take four months off,

540
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: just gonna be special guest Aaron Burr. Listen, I know

541
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: you stay off. I got friends on Broadway that's opposite off. Yeah,

542
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: no it's not. I mean all from touring. Yeah, it's

543
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: eight shows in six days. Yeah, it's it's a it

544
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: is a run. That's cool. I listen. I think sometimes

545
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: people get frustrated when they see people that want to

546
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things because they think people

547
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: are only able to do a few things. Well, do

548
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: you feel like your labels like at times? Because I

549
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 1: can tell you at times my radio company has been like, hey,

550
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: why are you doing TV projects? Why are you touring?

551
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Stand up like, how are you able to put all

552
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: of your effort into radio if you're doing these other things?

553
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: And what people don't understand. It's all about expanding the brand.

554
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: And to me, it's about filling my cup. So I'm

555
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: better at everything. If I feel good. Like one of

556
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: my buds, I'd call him a friend. Dion Sanders always says,

557
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: if you look good, you feel good. If you feel good,

558
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: you play good. If you play good, they pay good exactly.

559
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: And if I'm doing things that I love, I'm better

560
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: at all the things that I'm doing because I feel

561
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: more fulfilled. I just wonder if you've got any pushback

562
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: from your people, and I have, you know, I've gotten

563
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: some pushbad for me before. Like I remember when I

564
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: was writing this kid's book comes out July. By the way,

565
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: come my voice is a trumpet. Um, they were concerned

566
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: about that. Well, how is it gonna have time to write?

567
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm fine with with music, you know, Um, like the

568
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: TV and film I want to do, like, uh, you

569
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: know there's a show I can't say it yet, but

570
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm musical director now for this new Netflix show that

571
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: comes out this year. Um from doing that, you know,

572
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: doing radio, TV spots whatever. But for me is kind

573
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: of like I have to do everything I want to do.

574
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: If I don't, I will go insane Because I tell people,

575
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: being a touring country artist is just a piece of

576
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: what I want to do, not everything. Now there's some

577
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: people like that's it for them. They just wanna, you know,

578
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: write country songs, have songs on radio and tour. That's

579
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: great for them, But for me, it's not. It doesn't matter.

580
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: I could win every c M, A every a CM,

581
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: have number ones out of number one, selling out of

582
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: readers across the world. I still wouldn't be happy because

583
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: that's only a piece of what I want to do,

584
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And and again like I

585
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: tell people, you have to do what's best for you,

586
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: what's gonna feel you, you know, and after people tell

587
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: them me that I shouldn't do it. Are also people

588
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: to grow up in two parent homes with money as

589
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: a kid. I think that I was just talking with

590
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney about I asked him and I said, hey,

591
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: what's to deal with because he was like, you know,

592
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: I've I'm friends with Bobby Balden and this is him

593
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: saying this and Nick Saban, and he had mentioned a

594
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: couple other people, and I say, hey, what is it

595
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: about you and about this group that creates excellency in

596
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: your your crap? And he's like, man, we all grew

597
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: up hard. Like you learn when you grow up, like

598
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: you put it all on you. You gotta do all

599
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: of it, and you gotta surround yourself with good people.

600
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: And I think, and I know that's the quality that

601
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: we both share. Is when you don't come from anything,

602
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: you have nothing to lose. But man, once you start gaining,

603
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: you start gaining early, and you start figuring out how

604
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: to gain, and you also feel feel like the world

605
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: has beendable. I feel like you can do anything I

606
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: want to do. And you're not afraid to take risk

607
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: because like I've been broke before, you know, when a

608
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: couple of days that I eatn We grew up, we

609
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: had food stands, we had which checks, you know, we

610
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: had government assistance all that stuff. So it's like that's great,

611
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: but I'm not trying to go back to that. And

612
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: I'll speak and I'll go speak at some colleges at

613
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: times and the and for you, I see it too.

614
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: I used to resent when I was in my early twenties,

615
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: mid twenties, late twenties, how I grew up because I

616
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: was like I started from behind. But now it's like

617
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: I've been lifting weights training my whole life, and now

618
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: there's nothing I can't do because of all the crap

619
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: that I went through and all the struggle of just

620
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: life struggle right eating until you know, that kind of

621
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: struggle like other other struggles don't matter. I told people like,

622
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: what do you mean you didn't eat for three days?

623
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: What do you eat? What do you mean you your

624
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: electric was turned up? It was off. We had no

625
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: money to pay the bill, so they turned it off.

626
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: That that happens. I would tell people like hacks, what

627
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: we used to do to keep the electricity on where

628
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: you would send an envelope that you didn't seal open

629
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: to the electric company and they get it and they

630
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: call you pat your like, yeah, we sent it to you.

631
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: It must have fallen out. Yeah we put a check

632
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: in there. But you know, I would see my mom

633
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: do that as a kid and see little tricks like that.

634
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: And I would tell the stories and it was like

635
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: aliens were talking to people. But then what would happen

636
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: is I would go somewhere like Haiti and go, oh,

637
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: you know what I thought? It had it bad? It

638
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: is all about what you know. It's all We were

639
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: all living different stories because I could tell my stories

640
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: of growing up and they would go, you don't even

641
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: know what it's like. Yeah, they're like, that's not struggling.

642
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: Like like most of my friends, um now I have

643
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: in in Nashville. You know, they came from you know,

644
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: two parent homes whatever. They know what it's like to

645
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: have a father at their baseball games. I'm like, because

646
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: jimmy dads games. No, Like me and my dad were

647
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: cool talk about six and then we didn't get cool

648
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: against I was like nineteen, so by then I was

649
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: almost a man by that you know what I mean.

650
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: So games, no, graduation. The only think my dad was

651
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: in my graduation Seniunited basketball. No like none of that stuff,

652
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: like all the milestones. No, and he only lived two

653
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: minutes on the street, you know what I mean. So

654
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: for me, it's like, no, that's that's another reason why

655
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: I try to give my kids kind of everything I

656
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: didn't have. Now make my son work for it. Like

657
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: I make him take the trash out. If his room

658
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: is clean, I'll dirty it up a little bit on

659
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,239
Speaker 1: purpose to make him clear. But the room, he's like,

660
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: what happen? And he don't even know. But I feel

661
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: like I'll get him whatever he wants. But I want

662
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: to teach him responsibility, like we we we don't do

663
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: participation trophies at all because I feel like that just

664
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: teaches kids to be entitled. They feel it. People feel

665
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: like they should be extra rewarded for during the job. No,

666
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: that's your job. You do extually get extra rewarded when

667
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: you go Bob and beyond. So his soccer team last

668
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: year came in seventh place, they got a certificate for

669
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: for participation. We kept that. Then they gave him a

670
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: trophy the same size as first place. So he walks

671
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: over to me with it behind his back. I said,

672
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: let me see it. I said, you know we're gonna

673
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: do it. They said yes, give it back or throw

674
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: it in the trash. I said why. He said because

675
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: I didn't earn it. I said exactly. So he tried

676
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: to get back to him to keep it. So he

677
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: threw it in the trash and we went home and

678
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: we worked. We got better as team came back. The

679
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: next year, they came in second place. They got it.

680
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: They actually got a nice size trophy, not as big

681
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: as first place. But I feel like you gotta earn it. Man.

682
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: The but we're doing our kids a disadvantage when we're

683
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: not preparing them for the real world. The real world

684
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: does not care who your parents are. They don't care

685
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: how much money you got. Can you do your job? Great?

686
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Do your job now. You're not gonna get paid extra

687
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: for doing your job. You get paid extra when you

688
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: go bubb and beyond. That's its reality. That's how you

689
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: know I was raised. You know that's how I want

690
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: to raise my kids. To work for everything you got,

691
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: you appreciate it, and teach that same lesson to your kids.

692
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Book comes my voice is a trumpet? How long ago

693
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: did you write this? Last year? Um, I was on

694
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: that goes on the Today's Show, and um they named

695
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: Margaret from Flamingo Slash Penguin reached out to U t

696
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: A and asked if I'd be interested to write a

697
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: kid's book because we're talking about it was the whole

698
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: racial thing going around, um, right after George Floyd thing.

699
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: And UM, she said she appreciated my approach to it,

700
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: how I could say my frustrations without bashing people and

701
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: putting other people down. UM. So we just started writing

702
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: on talking about the importance of kids using a voice

703
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: because it's like if you teach kids at the young

704
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: age too, it's okay to encourage people. You know, it's

705
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: cool to say when somebody else is doing a good job,

706
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you see something happening that

707
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: ship and speak up, because if we don't, they just

708
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: become adults out of cowards, afraid to say when things

709
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: are wrong. They're afraid to you know, encourage other people,

710
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: but as you know, it's not the cool thing to

711
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: do or whatever. So that's kind of what that voice

712
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: that that that the book is about. You mentioned George Floyd.

713
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: This is the the struggle that I had with reaching

714
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: out to you during that as I don't just see

715
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: you as a black artist. And I hated going, hey, man,

716
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: when you come on the show, give us a weird

717
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: spot for men. Remember texting you being like, Man, I

718
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: don't want you anything. I'm just reaching out because the

719
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: black artist. But I feel like my dad told me

720
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: something before he died. He says, Son, you are one

721
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: of the few black artists in country music. It's not

722
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: a lot of you in country music. So when things

723
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: happen in country music that white people can't understand, you

724
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: are the person that they can reach out to that's

725
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: in the format you know what I mean, that has

726
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: that point of view as a black male in America.

727
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: And he said you have to accept that responsibility whether

728
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: you like it or not. And I gladly accepted, Like

729
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: my brain understood that right. But at this point we've

730
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: known each other for years and I just didn't want

731
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: to be the guy go and okay, let me roll

732
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: through my black friends and see who will come on

733
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: the show. Man, I would have been offended if you

734
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: would have asked a bunch of white people to do it,

735
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: not me. We were like, bro, bro, like like the

736
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: whole like like with with the with the Morgan wall.

737
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: And think a lot of people are upset with my

738
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: response because this is how I look at that whole thing. Um,

739
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: after it happened, I reached out to more and uh

740
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: we talked every day until he left. And and I

741
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: was just capital hunter. I said, Bro, no matter how drunk, whatever,

742
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: whatever you get, there's three things we can't do. I

743
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: can't say that any word. If he ain't black, I

744
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: can't say the effort, if he ain't game. You can't

745
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: beat women. Three things, you know what I mean? And

746
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: I said, was I personally offended or upset when he

747
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: said it? No? The reason why and this is from

748
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: me being black talked to a bunch of black people.

749
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: First of all, the way he at it, he he

750
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: didn't do that, he didn't use the e R. And

751
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, and and it was like, okay, So that's

752
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: why a lot of black people we laughed at was okay,

753
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: Well he said it right, true, you know you shouldn't

754
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: say it. But at the same time, just because I

755
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: don't agree with what he said doesn't mean I should

756
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: banish him. Because I tell people all the time people

757
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: claim to either follow God or Martin Luther King, and

758
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: those are two of the most forgiving people ever. If

759
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King can forgive people that beat and killed

760
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: his family members, and we can't forgive someone for you know,

761
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: using the word we don't agree with and and that's

762
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: kind of what what what really kind of rubbed me

763
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: the wrong way A lot of times where I saw

764
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, white people tweeting so offended. I can't believe

765
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: that you would do this. I'm so hurt. You're not hurt.

766
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: That word doesn't bother you. Now if you if people

767
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: would have said I don't agree with this, he shouldn't

768
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: have used that. It's the wrong word to use. One thing.

769
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: But when people start to use words like offended, that

770
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: word offended as weird me because my grandfather told at

771
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: a young age, when someone says something to someone else

772
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: not directed at you, that doesn't affect you. The only

773
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: way you can become offended is if you are so

774
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: self absorbed you make something about you that's not about you.

775
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Now you can be like, man, you shouldn't say that, bro,

776
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: Like it's not a good look, you know what I mean, Like,

777
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: don't use that word it makes all white country artists

778
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: look racist, you know what I mean, That's one thing.

779
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: But when people are the extra stuff where I just

780
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: feel like people just want to be seen, you know

781
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: what I mean. I feel like sometimes people just want

782
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: to be in the spotlight, you know what I mean,

783
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Like just the extra hurt. And I was like, Okay,

784
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: in the midst of this, since you're so hurt by

785
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: this word, how many black employees do you have, you

786
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean? How many? How many Black communities

787
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: have you gone into and done work for? You know

788
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: what I mean? Have you reached out to Morgan and

789
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: talk to him? You know what I mean? Like it's

790
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: it's it's you know a lot of times it's just

791
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: nonsense to where people want to look cool on social media,

792
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people that posted I know, people

793
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: that didn't post the Black Square whatever that do stuff

794
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: for black communities all the time, and I love I

795
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 1: know a lot of people have just posted it because

796
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: they don't want to look racist, but they're doing nothing.

797
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: And racist racism isn't about what you post on your

798
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: social media for the world to see. It's about who

799
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: you actually are, what you're actually doing. And I had

800
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: that conversation with with a white country artist in town

801
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: after the Morgan thing, and he was just like, man,

802
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: I can't believe he would say that, man, and so

803
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: messed up. Man, we gotta do better for black peoples, Like, well,

804
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing better for black people? How many

805
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: nonprofit black organizations? If you don't need it too? I

806
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 1: mean black employees do you have? He said nothing, it's none.

807
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: So I said, well, okay, Morgan might have done this,

808
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: but I know a lot of great things that Morgan

809
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: has done for black people. And my my thing is

810
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: if we want to make the world a better place,

811
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: we have to do the work, and the work is

812
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: putting ourselves in uncomfortable situations. That thing had when Morgan

813
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: said what he said, I had two choices. I could

814
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: yell at him and bash out him on social media,

815
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: or I could take some time and kind of really

816
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: processed the whole thing and look at who Morgan is.

817
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: Look at Morgan's state of mind when he said that,

818
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: Look at Mortgange history, the type of music he listens to,

819
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: the movies he watches. People, but it don't realize Morgan

820
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: Morgan well is a lot of hip hop and that

821
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: word is thrown around a lot, not making an excuse

822
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: for using it. But it's like people ask their kids, well,

823
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: why do my kids know how to cuss? Because they

824
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: watch movies with Curson in it. They watch they hear

825
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: you curse. So after a while, it's subconsciously embedded into

826
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: your brain to where it comes out. Whether it's hateful

827
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: when it comes out or not. It's there now. Once

828
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: it's there, how do we remove it? And that takes work.

829
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: That takes That took me personally calling Morgan and I

830
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: told him, I said, Bro, whether you liked this or not,

831
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: I'm inserting myself into your life because, first and foremost

832
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: main your father, you know what I mean, your father,

833
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: your person. How do we help you become a better

834
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: version of yourself for your son? And then it's deeper

835
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: than okay, yeah you said the N word. Okay, cool,

836
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: Now we got to focus on we'll we'll fix that.

837
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, let's you can't say that. Let's let's let's

838
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: let's let that go. Okay, that that words done? Now,

839
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: how do we handle this alcohol situation? You know? How

840
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: do we handle your outbursts? How do we handle the

841
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: reckless behavior? There's so many things than just the N word,

842
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: and I feel like everybody was just focusing on that man.

843
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: This is a guy that a fellow country artists that

844
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: we've seen struggling for years now, you know what I mean,

845
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: And no one cared until he said the N word. No,

846
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: he's he's been a person the whole time with problems,

847
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's like, that's me

848
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: just want to address the problem in find ways to

849
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: insert myself in people's life and help them be a

850
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: better person, just like people did death for me. Whenever

851
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: you finally came out and said, Okay, I thought about this,

852
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: here's I'm gonna say. Did you get hit from both sides?

853
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: People being upset with you and happy with you? Yeah,

854
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: it was more white people upset them black people. Like

855
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: has somebody comment on my on my Instagram was like, dude,

856
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: you can't you can't speak for black people. You're not

857
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: even black. I was like, what, And just because I

858
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: don't have the same view as every black person doesn't

859
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 1: make me more or less black. It's just my view.

860
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: It's just how I choose. And I don't bash, you know,

861
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: other black people for their approach. That's them. They have

862
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: the right to do what they want to do, because

863
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, everybody viewsed that situation differently. So yeah, I

864
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: got bassed on both sides. I got you know, UM

865
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: supported on side. And there's a lot of people in

866
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: the hip hop community that reached out to Morgan, a

867
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: couple of artists, UM, a couple of label exacts on

868
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: the R and B hip hop side that reached out

869
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: to him trying to find how do we help you?

870
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: And that's how I feel like that, That's how it

871
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: should be, man, you know, And instead of just now,

872
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: there should also be consequences. There has to be consequences,

873
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: and that's the problem with his other outbursts and records behavior.

874
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: There was never no consequences, you know. So I feel

875
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: like this whole situation could have been avoided if there

876
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: would have been consequences for his other actions. But I'm

877
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: glad that there was consequences because you have to be

878
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: held accountable for what you said. Hey, man said this.

879
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: You need a time out right now. Bro, You need

880
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: to go become a better person because you have too

881
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: many people looking at you and too many lives you're

882
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: influencing to have this type of reckless behavior because it

883
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: tells other people that it's okay. And then next thing

884
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: he knows that the one person throwing that word around,

885
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: we got fifty, then we got a hundred people. But

886
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: if we can focus and make Morgan better, all the

887
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: people that he's influencing, they see his actions, they see

888
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: his life, they see how he turned things around, and

889
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: they become better too. I feel like the hardest thing

890
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: is to be sensible because and I can speak to

891
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: it politically, I can even speak, you know, on the

892
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: surface of it, where you took some time, I wasn't

893
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: allowed to have time to talk about the Morgan hitry.

894
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm on the other next morning, I'm going, hey, we're

895
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: not gonna cancel this guy, I said, but he's got

896
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: to take a break for a second. And I was

897
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: getting hit from both sides. You know, we got to

898
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: cancel them or no he's not. And so even politically right,

899
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: like I have guns, I've hunted in my whole life,

900
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: but I also a big believer in gay marriage, and

901
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: so I kind of fall into both the bubbles. And

902
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: because I walked down the middle, both sides are pounding me.

903
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: And so I wondered when you said that if you

904
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: were getting hit by both sides, and I feel like

905
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: being sensible is the hardest thing to be because you

906
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: know you have your allies. If you just pick a

907
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: polar side, like you got your team, you're gonna go

908
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: fight the other side, you know exactly who your friends are.

909
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: But whenever you walk down the middle and you make

910
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: your own decisions based on what you've experienced in your life,

911
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: then you're not uniform with anyone except yourself. Yeah, you're

912
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: you're It's a It's a crazy place to be because

913
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: that's me. It's like, I have my guns, hunt all

914
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: the money I make. I don't want to get hit

915
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: over here for taxes. But at the same time, what

916
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: a woman decides to do with her body is But

917
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: is her decision, not mine, not no man's decision. Uh Mary,

918
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: who you want to marry? Love? Who you want to look?

919
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: I think it all comes down to My grandfather is

920
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: the most redneck, straightforward dude. He's said. The thing is,

921
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: people just need to mind the on damn business. That's it.

922
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: If people will mind their business and just focus on

923
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: you being a good person, you do what you need

924
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: to do, stop worried about everybody else will be good.

925
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: But all this comes from because everybody and everybody's business. Yeah,

926
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: if it's not affecting you or somebody close to you

927
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: and not hurting kids, it probably ain't for you to

928
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: be hopping in. Yeah, I was thinking about you when

929
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: that happened, because again I will talk even on the

930
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: radio show issues. I have guns. However, I don't think

931
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: everybody should have guns, and I don't think but I

932
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: don't even think all the good people should have every gun.

933
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Like should I be able to walk in buy body

934
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: armor and us? No, I probably shouldn't be able to

935
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: walk in just buy Like why do I need so?

936
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: So am I I have? Let's you're wrapper with a

937
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: lot of beef, then you need your and again let's

938
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: let's work on the beef. Let's let's put a therapy.

939
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: But anyway, I was thinking about you when that happened,

940
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: because I know what it's like to constantly get beat

941
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: up for not jumping on a polar side. I had

942
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: half the TikTok kids posting a video and be going, hey,

943
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Moregan needs to take a break, and are going they can't,

944
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: and then the other half going hey, he should not

945
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: be canceled, going he supports them, and I'm like goddink

946
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm getting beat up by both that I have friends.

947
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: That's what everybody like. I clearly said he should be

948
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: held accountable, but also said forgiveness should come in place.

949
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: And a lot of people want to say, why get

950
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: forgiveness when I see change? No, how many times do

951
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: you do? We do things and right after we do

952
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: we said, oh, I'm sorry, and then somebody else forgives us.

953
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: They forgive us before we even had time to change

954
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: our directory. You know what I mean, Because forgiveness isn't

955
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: about the other person, it's about you letting go that way,

956
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And and yeah, I like

957
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: to think logically. Man, I degic devil hate it. But

958
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm a logical thinker. I'm sensible, U reasonable. You know.

959
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: Whenever something happens, if you notice, I'd take at least

960
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: four or five days if I respond to anything. Um.

961
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: I just think that's what you should do. Um. There's

962
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: some things that happened. I ain't even I ain't talk.

963
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: I didn't even mention because again I had nothing to

964
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: do with me. Like I got hit up. People said, Jimmy,

965
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: what do you feel about your duet partner? No? What

966
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: c I IRUs calling Candice nappy headed. Whatever I said, whoa,

967
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: I ain't respond to that. Ain't that knew me? I

968
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: did a song with her, Yeah, you know, I did

969
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: a song with her. What she said about two Candice

970
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: Owens with her conversations with hair styles, ain't nothing doing me.

971
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: Why am I going to insert myself in that? Mind

972
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: of my business? Do with me? I never spoke on it,

973
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: my views on that, and I never will. Got not

974
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: do to me. Let me switch it up. You watch

975
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: one division? Nope, that's something I'm catching up on this weekend.

976
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: I've been watching The Bachelor, Bro. This is my first

977
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: time ever watching The Bachelor. I thought Mr Disney would

978
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: be all upon see I am, but we'll see. I

979
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: like to watch it when I can watch it straight

980
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: through and then now ready to go. And there's like

981
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: four there was like four or five other shows I

982
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: was watching. I was watching like I had to finish Power,

983
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: Uh Powers, This black show. I watch it. You know

984
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: it makes me. It's the one show that made me

985
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: want to be a drug dealer. It was crazy and

986
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: made you want to be a drag. Yeah, because it

987
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: was the way he did it. This dude didn't ghost, bro,

988
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: he was just so that's a problem with TV. See

989
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: that's people don't say that's the problem with TV. Like,

990
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 1: imagine being as a young kid right seeing this show,

991
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: seeing this drug dealer living his fictional life and they

992
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: want to do it. But again, I'm a reasonable adult now,

993
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: so I know it's fake. But that show power. I

994
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: was watching a show call for Life. I was catching

995
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: up on Grey's Anatomy. Uh, this new show called Big

996
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: Skuy that yeah, Ryan Felippe was was in shoutout to Delaware,

997
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: Fellow Delaware and right there, um uh and The Bachelor.

998
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why I started watching it. So my

999
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: fiance started watching it, and I was like, I'm not

1000
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: watching this show. So I started watching it. This show

1001
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: was so crazy, Like it's crazy. What's so funny to

1002
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: me about this season? The guy Matt James, Bro, this dude,

1003
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: you can tell me about to send the chick home

1004
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: because like she'll say something so deep and heartfelt. He'll

1005
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: look at her like, thank you for sharing that. Bro.

1006
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: She just pulled her pulled her heart out to you,

1007
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: and you say thank you for sharing that. You're going home, girl,

1008
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: You're going listen? Man, did I just root for you?

1009
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: I think hustlers root for other hustlers always, you know,

1010
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: even if there and there are a few of us

1011
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: that you just like the guys from low cash, right,

1012
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't hang out with them very I may see

1013
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: him once or twice, but I do too, and like

1014
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: they go hard. Not to brag because they have to.

1015
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: But you developed the set of skills when you have

1016
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: to for so long, and then you just root for others.

1017
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: Can you see how the people doing it too? You know,

1018
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: you're it's it's an honor to you know, watch you

1019
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: do what you've been doing. You know, it's inspirational to

1020
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people, including myself. Thank you, you know?

1021
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, man? And uh any any any female country

1022
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: at us out there listening? Hey do it? I had

1023
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: his conversation with a been this a one time there.

1024
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: It is a lot easier, I will say, it's a

1025
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: lot easier for a decent looking white guy to come

1026
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: in to town with mediocre voice in okay songs to

1027
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: be successful in this for a girl. But just because

1028
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: there's barriers for people of color and for females, that

1029
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't affect our work ethic. It shouldn't affect the quality

1030
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: of music We put out. So, Um, if you're a

1031
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: female out there listening, if you're a country artist of color, man,

1032
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: just keep pushing and keep making great music, be good

1033
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: to people, work hard, and eventually you'll find somebody that

1034
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: believes in you and you'll you'll you'll get your shots.

1035
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: Do you believe the cream always rises? I do. See

1036
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: What people don't understand, though, is the cream takes time

1037
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: to rise. It doesn't rise right away. Um, it has

1038
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: to fight through all that muck in the middle to

1039
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: get to the top. But um, once you get there,

1040
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: it's just good. You know, just stay focused. I think

1041
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: if you work hard, you're good to people. Consistent. Um,

1042
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: the quality of whatever you're putting out is good after

1043
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 1: a while. Uh, people can't, they can't deny. So shout

1044
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: out to Laney Wilson. By the way. People can't. They can't,

1045
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: they can't, they can't deny. So this muck artist you're

1046
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: talking about, what's his name? Right with theres alright? So,

1047
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: uh the song at radio right now, it's freedom was

1048
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: a Highway with Brad Paisley. You guys, check out Betty James.

1049
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: What's the deal with Like, what's what's the next project

1050
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: you're keeping that under wraps right now, not tell Aspilla

1051
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: beans all the time. I'm thinking about doing a deluxe

1052
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: version of uh um uh Betty James gotta I gotta

1053
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: got a song with Pitt Bull I want to put out.

1054
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: You already have it like it's done. They just it's

1055
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: master will send in his verse over this week. Um.

1056
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: I got a couple of the collabs on there. I'm

1057
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: super excited about. Who would you want to collab with

1058
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: if you're guaranteed of yes? Right, I come down from heaven.

1059
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm like Jimmy and there's heart music playing around me.

1060
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: Anybody alive right now? Three people? Okay? Um, well, I

1061
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: kind of got someone who works with Rob Thomas we've

1062
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: written before, but it would be Ryan Teader from one

1063
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: from Republic Adele and Elton John Yeah. Better hop on

1064
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: Elton quick. Yeah he's getting up there. Yeah, I kind

1065
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: of got I kind of might have something who works

1066
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: with the whole Elton thing as of a couple of

1067
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: days ago. Yeah, man, you know, anything you want to do,

1068
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: do it. Also, by the way, the next season you

1069
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: shoot on that deep sea fishing show, Well that's not

1070
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,479
Speaker 1: a deep sea so okay, so it'll be on Disney

1071
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: Plus starting May thirty one. Um, I'm constantly trying to

1072
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: be broken at and so I created the show. I

1073
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: was like, what can I do that is inspirational but

1074
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: also is entertaining where I'm the idiot, So I've found people.

1075
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: For example, there is a guy named Ralph who lost

1076
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: both of his legs serving in Afghanistan. A bomb hit him.

1077
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: But he's won. He won the gold medal on the

1078
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: U S Olympic Paralympic hockey team. He took the team,

1079
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: they went, they beat Canada, they did the whole thing.

1080
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: So I went and played against them. And I've never

1081
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: I don't know hockey U from Arkansas. I've never been

1082
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: on a sled and these guys don't have legs and

1083
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: they're all over the place and they beat me up hard.

1084
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: But it was could I score a goal in a

1085
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: whole game? I'm slow? But I'm also sharing his story, right,

1086
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: So it's so it's a story sharing, and then it's

1087
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: me experiencing either their talent, their job, their skill, and

1088
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: then competing in it and so and to see if

1089
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: Bobby scores, y'all make sure you tune into the show.

1090
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the first episode, it will come

1091
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: out on that Geo channel internationally on on on that night,

1092
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: but then it gets loaded Disney Plus the next day.

1093
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: The deep Sea Fishing is a guy who lives on

1094
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: his boat and goes out into San Francisco to the

1095
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: open waters as far as the um. For us, we

1096
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: didn't get to go that far because only had three

1097
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: days to shoot. He usually travels twenty hours or so

1098
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: on that boat to get to a spot and then

1099
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: stays out there drags four We did halibut, and we'll

1100
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: bring him back. And he's supporting multiple kids and me

1101
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: and his wife and kids. But he's to get to

1102
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: come home because it's not a glamorous job. Lives in

1103
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: this tiny spot. Has been through a lot in his life.

1104
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: His brother died um in a boat got run over

1105
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: by a big ship. So it's his story, but it's

1106
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: also me trying to I was trying to catch five

1107
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: pounds of hell of it. Running the boat rough Tudays

1108
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: was awful. Yeah, I did. A blind kayaker who got

1109
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: shot in the face, lost his vision, completely blind, but

1110
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: he kayaks through white water. We went to Idaho exactly.

1111
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: It's it's freaking crazy. Uh. This farmer named p J.

1112
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: His great grandfather was the first emancipated slave to buy

1113
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: land in the county. But they've kept it the entire time.

1114
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: And so I went with him to learn his family

1115
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: story and to try to farm. You know, so many

1116
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: acres of corn. That's rough. It is hard, for sure,

1117
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: but that's what it is. So every episode, sixteen episodes,

1118
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: a little bit about farmer his family of potato farmers.

1119
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: Did you guys know of each other at all back home? No,

1120
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 1: But it's so funny. I remember the first time I

1121
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: met Chuck. It was in Nashville. I kind of freaked

1122
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: out because like, growing up in Delaware, Chuck Hicks, Chuck

1123
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: Wicks was the hero. Um, I messed with him. Now

1124
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: to dude, I think I'm a little bit more famous

1125
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: from Delaware. I think I'm a little bit more famous

1126
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: on the Delaware Total pole now. But uh yeah, Chuck

1127
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: was the man. Like like I knew who he was.

1128
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: He played baseball at smyrna UM. Then when he got

1129
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: into music and stuff and everybody knew he was moving

1130
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: to Nashville, I knew about him, and you know, so

1131
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: still listen Torella when he's danced with the Stars, you

1132
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: know the celebrities he dated or whatever. It was, like, dude,

1133
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: Chuck is living. Um. So when I got a chance

1134
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 1: to meet him in Nashville, we just clicked right away.

1135
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: We're in a bowling league together. Now, we we're both heavy.

1136
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: Do you bowl at his level? I'm a little under Chucked.

1137
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: He's trying to be pro. Yeah, So in order to

1138
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: be a pro, you gotta have a two average and

1139
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: a sanctioned league. Chuck's average right now is like to ten.

1140
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: I think my average is like one nine. But we

1141
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: bowl a lot. We're learning different oral patterns and all

1142
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 1: that stuff. That's crazy. There's different oil patterns. Like there's

1143
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: a pro shot and there's a house shot. Three different

1144
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: times I appro shot. I don't know any holes on

1145
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: the ball. It's it's crazy. So, like what makes the

1146
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: ball hook is dry. The oil stops the ball from hooking.

1147
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: So a lot of times when you just go to

1148
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: a bowling alley, like where you see the arrows and stuff,

1149
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: we're going to diamonds, they're like, um, that's where it's oily.

1150
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: It's typically oily from the middle to like the last

1151
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: two boards on the outside. Then the oil normally stops

1152
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: like twenty ft before uh, before it gets to the pens,

1153
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 1: and that's when you see the ball really hook and

1154
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Then we learned the different between house

1155
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: balls and different The black widow ball got the best.

1156
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: It's dude bowling and so fun. You can't be honest

1157
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: for a second. I checked out. I don't know, Yeah,

1158
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 1: I saw you check out. I'm just I started nerding

1159
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: out when it comes to bowling recently. All right, listen,

1160
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go. I appreciate you coming. By way,

1161
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: we haven't done this since the very beginning. Yeah, thanks

1162
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: for having me. It's a very very beginning. You came

1163
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: to the other place and we did it upstairs, and

1164
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: I got the calls gonna be on it. I was like, hey, yeah,

1165
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: let's goes like it's been a while. I appreciate that.

1166
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate you just in general. I think you're for Nashville,

1167
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: just when you stand for and to not even country

1168
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: music artists, but to show people listen, you don't have

1169
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: to just do one thing. If you don't just want

1170
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: to do one thing, you can specialize if you want,

1171
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: or you can specialize in a lot of things if

1172
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: you want. So that's cool. All right, Jimmy Allen at

1173
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: Jimmy Allen, there you go. Alright, So it's Grammy Weekend,

1174
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: which the Grammy is the most prestigious award. It's also

1175
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: kind of the dumbest award at the same time because

1176
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: it's not really voting. You vote, and if they want

1177
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: to change their mind, they do. But man is a band.

1178
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: If you win one or an artist, it's a huge deal.

1179
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: It is a huge deal, but it just isn't indicative

1180
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: of real life. It's a huge deal and it becomes

1181
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: indict It makes people feel like, oh wow, they are

1182
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: really good. They want to Grammy. However, the people nominated

1183
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: sometimes they're just nominated for bullcrap reasons. It is the weirdest,

1184
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: worst system. It is the most unrealistic award that represents

1185
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: really nothing except cool people picking cool people. That being said,

1186
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: it's still the biggest award, you know. So the Grammys

1187
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: are coming up. As you can tell, I have a

1188
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: really love hate relationship with Grammy. It's the biggest, most

1189
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: prestigious award that you can get in music, and then

1190
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: in the country genre. It's tough too, because you know

1191
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: the people that are deserving to the for the big,

1192
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,959
Speaker 1: big awards, and sometimes they don't even get nominated because

1193
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: it is the cool guy club. A panel will go,

1194
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: you know what, here's who we're gonna put up for it.

1195
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: A panel, Yeah, that's based in wherever, Nashville or Los Angeles,

1196
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: And and then they'll get the results, and if they

1197
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: don't fully agree with the results as they can just go,

1198
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: you know what, let's do somebody different. I didn't know that,

1199
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: which sucks. So I have your country artist with the

1200
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: most Grammy wins. After I'm just like, you know, whats vote?

1201
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: It still is a real thing. Are there a lot

1202
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: of modern country artists in this list? Are they all legends?

1203
00:57:54,960 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: It's kind of mix. We'll start at number Alarice Scott

1204
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: at number eleven. She's won nine Grammy Awards. Lady Annabellum

1205
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: also her Christian albums. Cheryl Crowe also has won nine

1206
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: Grammy Awards. Which, again, do you consider Chryl Crow country?

1207
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: I really don't either. I know that she's kind of

1208
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: over in this space now, and I don't consider her

1209
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: a country artist because I grew up with Cherryl Crow,

1210
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: loving her when she was in country listen to this stuff.

1211
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: But I guess you know she's had she had picture

1212
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: with Kid Rock. We played that on a pop station.

1213
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: Though it's Alred. You're trying to convince yourself right now,

1214
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: I know, but I just love her music so much.

1215
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: Bonnie Rate comes in at number ten Grammy Awards. Boy,

1216
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: that's tough too. I don't see her as a country

1217
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: artist me either at all. Yeah, you know, pop a

1218
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: little bit or blues Americana. What's the what's the triple

1219
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: A they call that? Is that just a radio it's

1220
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: a radio form, but all that mix would fit in

1221
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: Triple A U At number eight on the list is

1222
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: Linda Ronstadt. Linda Ronstad with Tin Awards, yea before me,

1223
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: honestly wait before me too. Roger Miller has eleven Grammys.

1224
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: Dan There, tig Rule Band, Hang Me from My Eyes,

1225
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: Tree one one, What's Your Week for Me? So I

1226
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: like King of the Road. Yeah, and he was maybe

1227
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: one of the first crossover stars to do it. Number

1228
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: six the Chicks. They've won twelve Grammys Contemporary, so as

1229
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: you can see, it's a bit of both. Emma Lou

1230
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: Harris has won. She's for sure country for sure, no

1231
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: doubt on that one. Same thing with Ricky Sca although

1232
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: someone go, he's blue grass, that's your boy. But yeah,

1233
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: he's won fifteen Grammy Awards. Man, I know, you know

1234
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: cool people. But one time we were at the Opry

1235
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: and Ricky Skaggs watch walks by our dressing room and

1236
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: he looks and the b and I'm just like, what

1237
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: is happening here? Like how do you know him? So? Well? Yeah,

1238
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: he's great. It just talks to you like you guys

1239
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: are buds. And the whole time I'm like, man, I

1240
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: can't believe this guy's talking to me like we're buds.

1241
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: That's so cool. Alison crossing Union Station two Grammy Awards

1242
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: that they've won fourteen Grammys over twenty five years. She's

1243
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: the number three on the list. At number two is

1244
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: Vince Ago with twenty one Grammys. Wow. Can you imagine

1245
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: going to Vince Gill's house and he has which is

1246
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: all over in the kitchen, living room, like turning blunders,

1247
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: just the doorstop not now. He's done a lot out

1248
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: of different stuff. He does bluegrass as well. Right, Vince

1249
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: Gill is the top Grammys winner when it comes to

1250
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: country men, with twenty one awards. His most recent recent

1251
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 1: one was two thousand seventeen. Who do you think number

1252
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: one is? Garth? Top ten Um Grammy's Grammys Johnny Cash, No,

1253
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of a trick question. She's won twenty seven Grammys,

1254
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: seven Grammys twin the trick question. Why is it a

1255
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: trick question? For sure? She's country, but she also won

1256
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: what Dolly? She also won with the band, and so

1257
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: it's a mix of band and Soloh. I don't know,

1258
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Speaker 1: man like what direct? Like, give me, give me a direction.

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01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: What's the direction, Mike, I don't know. You can tell

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01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: them without telegoya. She was also in the list earlier

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01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: she was Lady No, that was Hillary Hillary. It's as

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01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: a just her herself. It's Alison Kross Alison Cross because

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01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: she has fourteen with Union Station and she has otherwise,

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01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: so she has twenty seven Grammy Awards. That's amazing. You know,

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01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: I probably would have guess fifty people before I guess

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01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: Alison Cross being the most decorated Grammy Award winner of

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Speaker 1: all time. Have you met her? No, I've been close

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01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: to her, meaning we walked by each other at the opery.

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01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: But I'm never gonna stop anybody. So yeah, because she's uber,

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01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: uber famous, you know, and I'd never met her or

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01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: anything like that, and I just she's not even one

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01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: that I think of of like being such a huge

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01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: country artist. But now that you say that, of course

1274
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: she deserves all those She's awesome. The Alison Krause, Jimmy Page,

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01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: Robert Plant, Yeah, that was massive, that was huge, and

1276
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: that that probably won a bunch of awards, right, did that? Mike?

1277
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: Do you know if they want any Grammys together just

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01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: for that record, like Record of the Year. Didn't you

1279
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: see Robert Plant? I saw him many times in Austin,

1280
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: like walking around Whole Food Food. By the way, Robert

1281
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: Planning is a lead singer of Led Zeppelin. Jimmy Page

1282
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: is a guitarist. But I got him confused for a second.

1283
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: But Robert Planning in the lead singer at the time.

1284
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: I believe he was hanging out in Austin a lot

1285
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: because he was dating Patty Griffin, Griffith Griffin, Patty Griffin.

1286
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what's what it is, but anyway, they

1287
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: were dating. So he was in Austin all the time,

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01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: and you would hear people like, oh, I saw Robert Plant,

1289
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: robber playing here, and I was a Whole Foods and

1290
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: I saw him in his shorts, flip flops and a

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01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: basket and long hair. Right, Oh dude, it's it's it's

1292
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: Robert Plant from led Zeppelin. Still the hair is curly

1293
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: and long down small of his back. Pretty pretty cool, Mike.

1294
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: What did you find out? Yeah, they swept that year.

1295
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: They won five categories. Yeah, that's a massive record. I

1296
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: remember them playing a c l in Austin and that

1297
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 1: was a big deal. You never saw Robert Plant around.

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01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: He was just one of those things where we were like, yeah,

1299
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: I saw him at the park Man. Pretty crazy. That

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01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: would be crazy. Like living legend. Yes, when it us

1301
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: to living legends in music, let's go back and forth.

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01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: The name who we think are living legends of music, right,

1303
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: that are alive? Paul McCartney the first, Right, let's just

1304
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: put all the Beatles are alive, Paul McCartney and Ringo's right,

1305
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: even though ring Good arguably one of the Beatles. So

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01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: I'll go Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, living members of led Zeppelin,

1307
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: Mick Jagger, all the Rolling Stones, all all those guys.

1308
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: Although I don't know the drummer, I don't think i'd

1309
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: recognize him. Mick is that Mick Jones. I don't know,

1310
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: um soon the drummer is of the Rolling Stones, Mick

1311
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: is it? Mick Well? There there's Keith Richards and then

1312
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: there's Ronnie wood Well. I recognize all those three and

1313
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: the rest of the guys have no idea Mike did.

1314
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 1: The drummer of the Rolling Stones is let's see living legends. Boy,

1315
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: Then you get into this lane of Dave Grohl. I

1316
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean he was in Nirvana. You can't

1317
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: forget that part the most influential band of the nineties

1318
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: of a whole decade, and then turned it into a massive,

1319
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: long lasting, multi Grammy platinum The Food Fighters. I mean,

1320
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put him there yet. I know he's gonna

1321
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: be there just because he's younger. He's on that younger spectrum,

1322
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: because there's no worry that unless there's a sudden accident, like,

1323
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: there's no worry that Dave's gonna be gone soon. So

1324
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put him as like a living I might though,

1325
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm my he's right on that because he's gotta be

1326
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: in his fifties, is he? Yeah? Yeah, for sure. All

1327
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: those guys in their fifties. How about the living legend debate?

1328
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: How about I think Chris Martin is too young for sure,

1329
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: way too young. I think he could be there in years.

1330
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: He's going to be a legend. How about from Queen

1331
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: the Guitarist. Oh gosh, if you have to go, what's

1332
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: his name again? Are they a living legend? Yeah? But

1333
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: you see him and you know who he is. I'm

1334
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: gonna go no, you can say yes, I don't. I mean,

1335
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: I'll say yes because when I saw him at I

1336
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: heart Fest in Vegas, I mean it's pretty like I

1337
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: know exactly who that is. And that's a living legend

1338
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: right there. Okay Stevie Nicks, Yes, living legend man. I

1339
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: was just about to say Tom Petty because I forgot

1340
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: that he died dead legend Willie Nelson. No debate living

1341
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: legend Garth Brooks, because I don't know that Garth is

1342
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: much older than sixty. If he is even sixty, yeah see.

1343
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: And if you guard's the biggest American art yeah, he's six.

1344
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: How's Dave, girl, we looked it out. I'm about you. Okay. See, men,

1345
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: they're too young to me. Even though Garth is the

1346
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: biggest selling artist in American history, there's no doubt that

1347
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: he's going to be a living legend. I think Garth's

1348
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: already living legend. I mean, I I don't disagree with

1349
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: you that much where I'm gonna say like, no way,

1350
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm I'm on the boarder line with him.

1351
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: Who are we missing for living legend? Mike Steven Tyler?

1352
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Steven Tyler is a freaking living legend for sure,

1353
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: and nice guy. I mean when he walked into our studio,

1354
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: that one, that's awesome. It's one of those rare moments

1355
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: where I was like, I cannot believe this is happening.

1356
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: There's only been a couple of those. The first time

1357
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: met Garth Steven Tyler. Who else came in here? Um

1358
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: that might know Dolly, Oh Dolly, of course Dolly. Who

1359
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: else we're missing might do like Ozzy Osbourne? Mm hmm.

1360
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't know about legend. I feel like he would

1361
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: have been, but almost like when you joined a reality

1362
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: show like that, like it just kind of loses. Maybe

1363
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: it's because we know too much about him at this point.

1364
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: Now we know all his kids, we know his wife,

1365
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: we know everything. A lot of these other living legends

1366
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: were talking about, we don't know that much about him,

1367
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: so there's this mystique. It's an interesting theory. I think

1368
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: that he just although they were a big band in

1369
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: the eighties, seventies and eighties, they don't really have a

1370
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: lot of songs that have just lasted the test of time.

1371
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: Where Queen has the Beatles have what he I am

1372
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: iron man, I don't forget no More to No More Tears.

1373
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: That was nineties border line. But I'm gonna go no

1374
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: on Ozzy Osborne. Oh Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, even though I'm

1375
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: not a Bruce Springsteen guy, I still see what he

1376
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: does to people. And he's in his sixties. Maybe I

1377
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: caught off point of sixty, like you gotta be sixty

1378
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: year older and have to define an era of music.

1379
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: I've been listening to old Bruce lately and just kind

1380
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: of just I don't know, after his whole thing in

1381
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 1: the d w A or whatever, I started just listening

1382
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: to old stuff. Dude. It's so so, so good, and

1383
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: it makes it makes you realize just someone's growth and

1384
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: how awesome they were at the very beginning to just

1385
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: keep being awesome. And he still produces really good music,

1386
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: and he's just he's just really cool to me. I

1387
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: just have never spent any time. It was not big.

1388
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: Where I grew up, it was all nineties country, and

1389
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: for me it was alternative and that turned into hip hop,

1390
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: and I just never except for Born in the USA

1391
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: or Dancing in the Dark, I'd never invested enough time

1392
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: Born to run. It's really good stuff. So I think

1393
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: our cutoff is gonna be sixty and above. And they've

1394
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 1: had to define an era of music. Are you fine

1395
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: with that rule? Yeah, of course we're missing anybody else?

1396
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: You say, Bob Dylan, Oh of course, I'm not a

1397
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan guy, but I will agree with that. Then

1398
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 1: then you don't want Bobs a living legends? Okay, But

1399
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: then how about someone like Neil Young. He'd be a

1400
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: living legend. And I'm you know, I do like him.

1401
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pay to go watch Neil Young show. And

1402
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: I have to think to myself, is he's still alive?

1403
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: He's still alive? Yeah, I think he's married a really

1404
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: young girl. So Tony Bennett, Oh yeah, living legend, living legend.

1405
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Anybody else we're missing? I think that's all the big

1406
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: ones on who's on the precipice of being a living

1407
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: legend in the next twenty years? Billy Joe Armstrong from

1408
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: Green Day. I thought about him for sure. Dave Girl

1409
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: will put him in the next up list. Garth's not

1410
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 1: sixty yet, so we're gonna put Garth there. According to

1411
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: our new rule. You're gonna hate me on this one.

1412
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: I go Taylor Taylor Swift on the way, I hate you. Sure, great.

1413
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: She's so young though, I just love her. She's awesome.

1414
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: Six You have to be sixty and she's like thirty, right, yeah,

1415
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: And I just I just feel like I agree. But

1416
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna she's gonna keep doing it. If she quits,

1417
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: like in the next five years, then she may not

1418
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: because I mean how she's not going to question. She's

1419
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 1: too good and probably to inspire. Agree, that's weird to

1420
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: pick somebody so young, but again, I guess if you've

1421
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: been killing it since you're sixteen, like she would get

1422
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame if she quit, right now?

1423
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: What about um what you're getting? Rappers though, too right,

1424
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of rappers who are old, old

1425
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: old because rap only become became extremely popular in the

1426
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: late eighties. With it obviously was a growing format, but

1427
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: with run Dy mc beast boys like when it crossed

1428
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 1: over to pop, so you're not seeing a lot of

1429
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: really old rappers yet. Jay Z will be there, Snoop

1430
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: La cool J like those old guys. Snoop is still

1431
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: doing it. Snoop is basically Tim McGraw of hip hop

1432
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: for sure, like he was around back then. People don't

1433
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: even realize Snoop was on trial for murder and they're like, man,

1434
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: what's up with Snoop? Like he's just a cartoon character

1435
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: rapper who does do you know? Did car TV shows

1436
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: and it's funny. No, no, no, he was on trial

1437
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: for murder. Yes, Snoop for sure, I mean Dr Dre

1438
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: any other legends on the edge. This obviously wasn't even

1439
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: to talk about, but it's kind of like it. I mean,

1440
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: Chris Martin will be there. Um. John Mayer, Oh, I

1441
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: mean he's my favorite. I mean he can again, he

1442
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: can live in legend. Eric Clapton, good one. Yeah, do

1443
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: you remember that? I thought about John Ayron, I thought

1444
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: about great guitar players in there are live. Eric Clapton

1445
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: did it multiple times. He did what Food Fighters did,

1446
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: where he went from Cream the Birds a solo artist.

1447
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: He had three generations. Pretty cool of being in a

1448
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: big band. Yeah, that's really impressive. Okay, well that's what

1449
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about. You know, we're gonna end this and

1450
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep thinking about Jim Bufet. Obviously didn't

1451
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: bring him up. I'm living legend. You didn't bring him

1452
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: up as a as a legend. He stands on his

1453
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: own like it's just to me, he's not even a musician.

1454
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 1: But then you have that whole nineties rock band group

1455
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: like R. E. M Right is Michael Stipe. Will he

1456
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: end up being a living legend? I'm kidding, live in legend.

1457
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: I was listening to a podcast on Temple of the Dog.

1458
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what podcast is that? Where it would tell

1459
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: me later so you don't promote on that where it

1460
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: was basically at one point and as they were playing

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Speaker 1: it was Eddie vetter Um Chris Novicell like the basis

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Speaker 1: from Nirvana and Dave Girl who playing drums, and it

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Speaker 1: was basically a Nirvana with with somebody else there, basically

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Speaker 1: a Nirvana band with that's the earliest the Temple of

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Speaker 1: the Dog. It's one of the versions. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: very it's a very cool story. Pearl Jams singer was

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Speaker 1: the singer yes, but as it switched in and out.

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Speaker 1: At one point it was basically a Nirvana with Eddie

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Speaker 1: Vetters the lead singer. That was Eddie Vetter's first, first,

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Speaker 1: first like taste of being on a big record because

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Speaker 1: he was the Pearl Jam. Was it just they weren't

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Speaker 1: even on a record label yet. They had recorded that

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Speaker 1: and they say, hey, you're the new lead singer of

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Speaker 1: Pearl Jam. Why don't you come sing on this record

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Speaker 1: with us? I'm going hungry. I mean that's when everyone

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Speaker 1: heard that voice is just like whoa, that voice is different,

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Speaker 1: like who is that? And then here it comes Pearl Jam.

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Speaker 1: Pretty cool, pretty cool? Pretty cool? All right, that's it,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys,